Well I did it. My youngest brother (15 years younger) was the recipient of
an 8MP Canon Rebel XT this weekend. It came with the cheapo 18-55 zoom they
sell in the kit.
He really likes photography and was not in a position to afford this at the
time, so being his oldest brother, I treated him
At 05:57 PM 10/25/2005, Tom C wrote:
Having not released a better camera than the 'D' in almost two years, I
used the mindset of "What if I was buying a new DSLR for the first time?".
I would argue that the DS is a "better" camera, simply because of its
price. ;)
As for pretending to be a
iscuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:20:36 -0400
At 05:57 PM 10/25/2005, Tom C wrote:
Having not released a better camera than the 'D' in almost two years, I
used the mindset of "What if I was buying a new DS
I must confess too. A friend is going to Vanuatu for his wedding anniversary and
wanted a new DSLR. He only had an optio digicam, and no lenses. I _wanted_ to
recommend the DS, but really could justify it except for the $500 difference
with the Canon 350D/18-55mm kit.
The only other two reasons I
- Original Message -
From: "Glen"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
At 05:57 PM 10/25/2005, Tom C wrote:
Having not released a better camera than the 'D' in almost two years, I
used the mindset of "What if I was buying a new DSLR for the firs
On 25 Oct 2005 at 18:20, Glen wrote:
> By the time you wear out any of the current DSLRs, the available technology
> will
> be totally different. No one really knows who will be making the best system
> at
> that future date. I suggest getting something that best fits your needs today
> and worr
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
This is a prime example of Pentax missing the boat. I would have gladly
purchased him an *ist D derivative if I felt secure in the 'Pentax future'
Ya'll,
I just don't understand this "Future" Concept.
Would you not buy a toaster because GE doesn't exh
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Studdert"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
For some people the future figures in their current decisions. If I had no
camera system and were embarking on a photographic hobby I'd be most
likely to
buy into a system tha
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:56:04 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Glen"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
At 05:57 PM 10/25/2005, Tom C wrote:
Having not rel
On 25 Oct 2005 at 19:08, cbwaters wrote:
> Ya'll,
> I just don't understand this "Future" Concept.
> Would you not buy a toaster because GE doesn't exhibit grand plans to
> release a line of newer more featured toasters?
> How about a car? I mean, the Civic from Honda has been around for ever a
I guess we don't! :-)
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:17:23 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert"
Subject: Re: S
On 25 Oct 2005 at 17:17, William Robb wrote:
> It's nice how some things never change.
> Five years ago we were bitching that Pentax didn't have a film camera to
> compete with the best that Nikon or Canon were putting on the market.
> At least we are consistent.
Well some of us may have been bu
And while we're at it...Can somebody please tell me why the hell I should
care if they run my card as a debit or credit transaction? It's all coming
out of the same account..I don't get it.
Cory
made a good dinner tonight ;)
.
Don't know all the reasons. Somtimes at gas stations, a pre-
With a dedicated user base like you guys, who needs a marketing department?
(Or in Pentax's case, what good would it do?).
Derek of Doom
>
> I must confess too. A friend is going to Vanuatu for his wedding anniversary
> and
> wanted a new DSLR. He only had an optio digicam, and no lenses. I
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 25 Oct 2005 at 19:08, cbwaters wrote:
> Ya'll,
> I just don't understand this "Future" Concept.
> Would you not buy a toaster because GE doesn't exhibit grand plans to
> release a line of newer more featured toasters?
Cars and toasters are complete s
Dedication is nothing, if not reciprocal... :)
Tom C.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek)
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net, pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:33:03 +
With a dedicated user base like
On 25 Oct 2005 at 23:33, Derek wrote:
> With a dedicated user base like you guys, who needs a marketing department?
> (Or
> in Pentax's case, what good would it do?).
Har, marketing has never been their strong point. They've made plenty of money
out of many of us here (me included) over the ye
lly. long term
support on a piece of camera equipment that would go obsolete fairly quickly
mattered a lot to him. Pentax, Olympus, and KM were not in the running.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:38 PM
S
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
None of these things by themselves stands as an overarching reason to go
with Canon over Pentax. Together though it makes common sense to me. I
just don't want to see anyone (es
ork on the Pentax
mount however, whereas he does not.
The new 8MP Rebel acutally felt pretty nice in the hand, much like an *ist
D, very unlike the original Rebel D.
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent M
ssage -
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
They are dragging their ass along the ground at the moment, they are a far
cry
from even keeping up with the bottom end from other manufacturers.
er 25, 2005 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Har, marketing has never been their strong point. They've made plenty of
money
out of many of us here (me included) over the years, if they don't start
actually producing what we need they'll lose us as customers
ugh
the side of the fishbowl.
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:45:32 -0600
- Original Message ----- From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Sent
Oh Brother! ;-)
Well since you're bass-ackward, why aren't you out there buying up all that
great glass? :-)
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 O
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Oh Brother! ;-)
Well since you're bass-ackward, why aren't you out there buying up all
that great glass? :-)
I bought the last of the tasty stuff.
There's none left.
William Robb
They'll also lose a significant amount of 'Word of Mouth' advertising...
Tom C.
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:00:17 -0400
who spends the
riginal Message - From: "Glen"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
At 05:57 PM 10/25/2005, Tom C wrote:
Having not released a better camera than the 'D' in almost two
years, I used the mindset of "What if I was buying a new DSLR for
the first time?&
The *fun* though maybe the digital part of it, not just Pentax. Or is it
all the GREAT personalities on this list? ;-)
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oc
u out there buying up all
that great glass? :-)
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:53:24 -0400
Hi Tom,
What now? Where is my existing collec
t;
>>Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
>>Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:00:17 -0400
>>
>>who spends the most money, on an individual by individual basis, on Pentax
>>camera equipment? the people like on this m
> Well I did it. My youngest brother
(15 years younger) was the recipient
of
> an 8MP Canon Rebel XT this weekend. It came with the cheapo 18-55 zoom they
> sell in the kit.
>
> He really likes photography and was not in a position to afford this at the
entax. Or is it
all the GREAT personalities on this list? ;-)
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:53:24 -0400
Hi Tom,
What now? Where is my existing
: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:22:52 -0400
Well, I'm certainly not here to enjoy _your_ sarcastic drivel.
Since you like Canon so much, you should leave us in peace and insult the
members of a Canon
What are you drinking at the moment, kind sir? No offense was intended.
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:16:53 -0400
Why aren't you lear
On 10/25/05, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just don't understand this "Future" Concept.
> Would you not buy a toaster because GE doesn't exhibit grand plans to
> release a line of newer more featured toasters?
> How about a car? I mean, the Civic from Honda has been around for ever and
>
It is you guys that thinks competition is tough, Pentax thinks they are
selling them as fast as they can make them, so why worry. That seems to
be a point you guys are missing. Nothing Pentax makes right now is
piling up in warehouses. It is all moving as fast as they can produce
them. They hav
I guess we're Pentax's R&D then? Just joking.
Tom C.
From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:31:33 -0400
It is you guys that thinks
On 25 Oct 2005 at 20:31, graywolf wrote:
> It is you guys that thinks competition is tough, Pentax thinks they are
> selling them as fast as they can make them, so why worry. That seems to
> be a point you guys are missing. Nothing Pentax makes right now is
> piling up in warehouses. It is all
You shouldn't, but they do.
If you run it as a debit they do not have to pay the credit card fee.
Makes them another 2.75%, or something like that, profit. If I didn't
like the service I always run it as a credit card. Also you can run it
as a credit card when your banks computers are down, it
What are you drinking at the moment, kind sir? No offense was intended.
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:16:53 -0400
Why aren't you learning n
25, 2005 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
It is you guys that thinks competition is tough, Pentax thinks they are
selling them as fast as they can make them, so why worry. That seems to be
a point you guys are missing. Nothing Pentax makes right now is piling up
in warehouses.
Well if you have a pure debit card it does not. If it is a Visa Check
card or something like that you get the same protection as with a credit
card except they do not immediately redeposit your funds, you have to
wait until they sellers response period is over usually about 3 weeks to
a month.
Works for me... oh yeah, you didn't see this. :) Sheesh.
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:24 -0400
At this point, I don
Oh! Wow! Yes! Since I no longer have any credit cards I had forgotten
about that. When you run your credit card as a debit card they treat it
as a cash advance and charge you a really nasty fee.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
Good to know! Thanks.
Tom C.
From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:43:08 -0400
Well if you have a pure debit card it does not. If it is a Visa Check ca
Something to what you say there, Rob.
If your production line is at capacity it costs almost as much to put in
another line for the existing camera as to introduce a new one. Which
probably is why there is only a trickle of isD still coming out, they
only have the one old slow production line
Why don't you all just change the group to Pentax Dissing Mailing List?
Does anyone on this list like their products besides me?
I'm sick of all this whining and complaining. You all sound like a bunch of
four year olds.
Pentax makes great lenses. They're trying to catch up with the new body
tha
> > And while we're at it...Can somebody please tell me why the hell I
should
> > care if they run my card as a debit or credit transaction? It's all
coming
> > out of the same account..I don't get it.
> >
> Last month, someone ran my credit card through as a debit. The credit
> card company charg
You know that it is the same 4-5 people who run anti-Pentax
trolls regularly on the list. They want us to think we are stupid
because we use Pentax. Strange thing is they use Pentax too, and they
claim to know better .
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
--
Author's words are sometimes mistaken as sarcastic
and mean-spirited when they are ususally written as jest and good-natured
humor.
From: "Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct
From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You know that it is the same 4-5 people who run anti-Pentax trolls
regularly on the list. They want us to think we are stupid because we use
Pentax. Strange thing is they use Pentax too, and they claim to know better
Hey, just because a couple of people
the kill file.
At 08:29 PM 10/25/2005, Tom C wrote:
What are you drinking at the moment, kind sir? No offense was intended.
Tom C.
From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oc
> Because. Because it's a Pentax Discuss Mailing List.
Discuss means to talk about not to conduct a neverending bitching session.
> When you discuss
> things with your doctor is it only the good things?
If you talked to your doctor like you talk about Pentax you'd stop on the
way home to look
cuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:13:17 -0400
> Because. Because it's a Pentax Discuss Mailing List.
Discuss means to talk about not to conduct a neverending bitching session.
> When you discuss
> things with your doctor
From: "Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:13:17 -0400
> Because. Because it's a Pentax Discuss Mailing List.
Discuss means to talk about not to conduct a neverendi
On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:09 PM, Tom C wrote:
If you went to research a product you were considering purchasing,
and went and read a mailing list, and came away with possibly more
information that gave you additional insight, would you be happy about
that or disappointed? I'd be happy. So wh
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Disclaimer: Message above is original content and may be the uninformed
opinion of the author. Author's words are sometimes mistaken as sarcastic
and mean-spirited when they are usus
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Reese"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Why don't you all just change the group to Pentax Dissing Mailing List?
Does anyone on this list like their products besides me?
I like their products so much that in the last two
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
From what some believe (though I don't) Pentax reads the list to get ideas
and see what's it present customers want. Well, then they should have
plenty to work with.
They'
At 10:10 PM 10/25/2005, Tom Reese wrote:
Why don't you all just change the group to Pentax Dissing Mailing List?
Does anyone on this list like their products besides me?
I certainly like my DS, and have said so many times before.
As for all the dissing and depression on this list, it unfortu
Paul,
My comments are with regard to Pentax as a brand in general, what they are
offering, and where they are going, in comparison with the market
competition. Did I ever say that 'Pentax produces a product that gives
inferior results', or name a Pentax camera and state it produces bad
resul
You must be joking, Bill.
Sure, I believe they read it. Do I believe they base their direction on it?
No.
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 200
make that a miniDV Sony
best,
mishka
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:23:00 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Now ifhe needs 40 fps etc then he needs to upgrade to the Canons or Nikons.
The fee structure is different.
cbwaters wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Tom C"
This is a prime example of Pentax missing the boat. I would have
gladly purchased him an *ist D derivative if I felt secure in the
'Pentax future'
Ya'll,
I just don't understand this "Future" Conc
All I care about is the specifications that matter...
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
For some people the future figures in their current decisions. If I
had no
camera system and were emba
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
You must be joking, Bill.
Sure, I believe they read it. Do I believe they base their direction on
it? No.
Base their direction, no, but consider it, I don't see why not.
Unless
It sounds like you've already decided where to put your money, so get
on with it. Obviously no one here is going to change your mind. Pentax
obviously can't produce new models at a pace that will satisfy you.
You've made that clear. Move on.
On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Tom C wrote:
Paul,
M
- Original Message -
From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
All I care about is the specifications that matter...
For a lot of people, the goalposts are moving fairly quickly.
William Robb
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The polite thing to do is to tell em that a Pentax quality camera with EOS
5D specs would be very nice thank you, and that there is a market out there
for a Pentax camera so specified.
It is kinda rude to diss them for not doing it as fast as the mono
I don't see Pentax doing *much* I would expect if I were them (or if I were
them and were able to).
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:21:35 -
And then I've got the 67 which
I'll either use voraciously or not be able to buy film for or get readily
available processing (in the selection I wish).
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject:
Along with other marketing missteps the do their best to piss us off...
Derek wrote:
With a dedicated user base like you guys, who needs a marketing department?
(Or in Pentax's case, what good would it do?).
Derek of Doom
I must confess too. A friend is going to Vanuatu for his weddin
l. And then I've got the
67 which I'll either use voraciously or not be able to buy film for or
get readily available processing (in the selection I wish).
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject
Most likely they only have two production lines running, one with the
DS2 the other the DL. The DS is being sold out of existing stock as is
the D. The only reason there are still D cameras left is that they
haven't officially lowered the price to keep a few in stock until the
replacement cam
-side'. :)
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:44:24 -0400
I just don't understand why those who have decided Pentax is
Well, hell that must be, humm, say 50% of their high end sales, world
wide?:-)
At least according to some people...
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Tom Reese"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother t
What if he your friend had gone on and on about how he thought there
were probably pieces of insects in the burgers? And the tomatoes the
cook sliced were full of worms? And that mold was scraped from the buns
before they were served-- if you were lucky? Suppose he kept harping on
this all over
products. It is
to find ways to cut costs and deliver essentially the same product, with
certain functionality removed.
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
Date
On 25/10/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Welcome to the kill file.
Oh my God you've done it now Tom.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
On 25/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I'm doing my part.
That's unusual for a Canadian isn't it?
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
On 26/10/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I just don't understand why those who have decided Pentax is not for
>them continue to whine about it day after day. It's particularly self
>defeating for those who must have full frame. All indications seem to
>say that we won't see tha
On 25/10/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
>In my case, complaining is not bashing, it's blowing off steam and thinking
>out loud. Call it my 'Venus-side'. :)
Oh boy, this one is so tempting, but I'll desist :-)))
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
I came from the "dark side". Matter of fact, I still have my Canon
kit, or most of it (10D + 20/28/50/100 lenses). And my Konica Minolta
A2. Both are excellent cameras, make great photographs. They're on
the shelf, right next to the two DS bodies and my kit of Pentax
lenses, ready to go int
> already have a lens investment. So far there's no indication that Pentax
is
> going to be producing new 35mm format lenses (AFAIK), and there's no
> indication a FF body is in the works (AFAIK).
Eh? They _announced_ another D-FA on their lens roadmap. What more
indication do you need ;-)
Regar
Many years ago I lived in North Beach, in San Francisco. Across the street
from my apartment was a pretty good hamburger joint. One night a friend,
Rick, was visiting, and at one point started moaning how much he wanted a
hamburger. He kept this up for a while, getting more and more graphic as
t
Cotty wrote:
> I've booked my sex change op for the end of the month. Fare ye well
> Cotty. Enter Cottrina!
Uuuurh...
Now there's a mental image that would make strong men weep.
Tom (the nauseous) Reese
except in a small segment of the entire DSLR market. Their
strategy of late, is not not to compete by innovation and progressive
products. It is to find ways to cut costs and deliver essentially the
same product, with certain functionality removed.
Tom C.
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PR
It's about time. How about a date?
Paul
On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:09 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 26/10/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
I just don't understand why those who have decided Pentax is not for
them continue to whine about it day after day. It's particularly self
defeating for th
om: Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>The polite thing to do is to tell em that a Pentax quality camera with EOS
>5D specs would be very nice thank you, and that there is a market out
ent My Brother to the Dark Side
You must be joking, Bill.
Sure, I believe they read it. Do I believe they base their direction on it?
No.
Tom C.
>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>To:
>Subject: Re: Sent My Brother t
- Original Message -
From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
On 25/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm doing my part.
That's unusual for a Canadian isn't it?
You'd be speaking German and wearing weird cross
>I've booked my sex change op for the end of the month. Fare ye well
>Cotty. Enter Cottrina
So its definitely a software change!
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
On 26/10/05, Paul Stenquist
>>>I'm doing my part.
>>
>> That's unusual for a Canadian isn't it?
>
>You'd be speaking German and wearing weird crosses on your arms were that
>the case.
LOL plenty of it around still!
Cheers,
Cotty
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Sex change? Some of these professional moaners need something more
radical than that.
Meanwhile, how about a time-machine to take them back to 1920?
Henry Ford: "You can have any colour you want as long as it's black".
Tom (for it is he) "Oh gee, Mr Ford, you're wonderful. After much
tho
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
What is all this hooey about? Did your brother *want* a Canon... or a
Pentax? Does he care at all what brand camera he got? (If someone gave me
a DSLR, any DSLR, I'd be freekin' happy too.) Or do you just want to whine
about Pentax? What is the poi
Pentax no longer warehouses. It goes from the production lines to the
distribution center in the Philippines where it is transshipped to the
dealers. Even places like B&H can not get enough to warehouse them.
Almost everything is on quotas.
(All this according to a Pentax Rep)
Thank the MBA's
They drop ship in some instances. My A 15mm never went to the dealer I bought
it from. It was shipped direct (from the distribution? receiving? center) from
Pentax.
I wonder if most of this is due to the dealers trying to keep their inventory
low. They don't want to keep anything on hand that i
I have to say that I would have no trouble at all in recommending the
Pentax DSLRs over the competition without hesitation. The scene down the
viewfinder is enough to convince most people. My mate who purchased one
is thrilled with it, and loves the fact that it's a Pentax instead of
'what everyone
I think that Pentax is trying to keep production low so not to get stuck
with obsolete camera they have to discount heavily to get rid of. Also,
here in the US the IRS started taxing warehouse stock as assets a few
years back which makes it expensive to stockpile anything. The 15mm
being an old
> I think that Pentax is trying to keep production low so not to get stuck
> with obsolete camera they have to discount heavily to get rid of.
That makes perfect sense. JIT inventory is the hot thing in manufacturing.
> Also,
> here in the US the IRS started taxing warehouse stock as assets a
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