Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bronek Kozicki" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D > "full frame" is not a format name. I've always wondered what the crop factor was on my Pentax 6x7. Does anyone know what full frame is on 120? Note, I am not tryi

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D > Your just arguing nomenclature. He's not the only person on list who argues nomenclature. I'd even hazzard a guess, without looking into my filtered emails, that I

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet mike wilson wrote: >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 04:18:01 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? >> >> ... or you'd have to kill us? >> > > We're already

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, he certainly has an "eye" for "color". mike wilson wrote: >> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 10:22:44 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D >> >> Peter Fairweather wrote: >> >>>

Re: A couple of PESOs

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought my Cocker had a big tongue... William Robb wrote: > You need to like dogs for this one. > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/bigtongue.html > > I decided to do my own full moon picture tonight. I don't know why. > This was shot with the K10 behind the A600/5.6 and 2XL

Re: Sensor Cleaning

2007-01-03 Thread Gasha
Hmm, looks like i have to do the same. Clean sensor before each shooting. So far i collected big pieces of dust each other day. Shooting only with prime lenses... it means lot of lens changes! Gasha Cotty wrote: > On 2/1/07, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>I blow my c

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns on the PDML. Shel > [Original Message] > From: P. J. Alling > This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml

Re: Blue Channel Noise

2007-01-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks Dave - that was the message I recall. Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage >From John Celio: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml%40pdml.net/msg369265.html > > Godfrey (I think) posted something a few weeks back as well, but I > can't find it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Peso: The late Bob Smith

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Wow, they had really modern motorcycles in 1882... (Where do you keep that time machine by the way...) John Whittingham wrote: > I've just been asked for a copy of a photograph I took back in c.1882 of the > late Bob Smith and thought I'd share it with you guys. Pentax MX, Makinon 300 > f/5.6, F

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread David Savage
So did I. But I was wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory Dave On 1/4/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns > on the PDML. > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: P. J. Alling > > > This ain't he

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/71055999 Looking again, I kind of like the rendition of the monarch, (Oh God I need professional help). mike wilson wrote: >> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 10:22:44 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Fw: Full fr

Re: Peso: The late Bob Smith

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Some typo, that's not even close... (Damn, I was hoping for the time machine...) John Whittingham wrote: >> 146 more like. >> >> >>> I've just been asked for a copy of a photograph I took back in c.1882 >>> >> Har! >> > > > Ah! bit of a typo that should be 1996 -:) > > John > > -

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
Let's not fight over words. Tom C. >From: Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs >K10D >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:01:50 + > >Digital Image Studio wrote:

RE: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
120 is a film size, not a format. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D -

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread Bronek Kozicki
Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - > Hertzlia Marina vs K10D > > > > Your just arguing nomenclature. > > He's not the only person on list who argues nomenclature. I'd even hazzard a > g

Re:

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Earlier than that... *1868-69 The Michaux-Perreaux Steam Velocipede, Germany* http://www.virginiawind.com/byways/images/history_01_11.jpg Here's the page that's from. http://www.virginiawind.com/byways/history_01.asp Gonz wrote: > I didnt know they had motorcycles way back in 1882! ;) > > rg >

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Full frame would be Kodaks original format. would be 2 1/4 x 3 1/2 inches. They invented it. William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Bronek Kozicki" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - > Hertzlia Marina vs K10D > > > >> "full frame" is not a format name.

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: >I'd even hazzard a guess, without looking into my filtered emails, >that I know who he is arguing with.. Har! (Just looked at the "unread" count in my own Deleted bin...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Bob W
Purgatory is a good demonstration of the strange logic of the church. If people go to either heaven or hell when they die, with no remission, then there is no value in praying for them after their death. Since the church insists that prayer is effective, it follows that there must be somewhere

RE: Bins

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
That's the last time I try to steer someone towards Pentax. :-) You need to get the bino's with the built in MP3 bird call software. 200+ bird sounds at the touch of a button. Tom C. >From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Thanks to all for your help & suggestions. In the end I didn't buy >Pent

Re: Peso: The late Bob Smith

2007-01-03 Thread John Whittingham
> Wow - you are older than you look! :) > ann LOL, it's been one of *those* days -:) John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain co

PESO: Hot Dog Heaven

2007-01-03 Thread Walter Hamler
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/HDHweb.jpg Maybe use it in an upcoming camera club contest. K10D, FE zoom at 10mm Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Winter's finger

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks, Dave. Glad you liked it. My feelings are similar to yours. -- Bruce Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 4:57:27 AM, you wrote: DJB> Lovely shot. DJB> The lines in the water make it for me. DJB> Dave DJB> Quoting Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Taken on a recent outing in Utah. They

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
I was eager to see this, after those beautiful shots you posted a day or two ago... was this just a "lets see what the camera can do" experiment? ann - Ann, that's exactly what it was. I got the A 50 F1.2 last summer, and we all knew then that the K10D was coming out. I have been wondering

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
I just did an outing recently where I had the camera out and in my hand for a couple of hours. I can't say that I noticed any more or less fatigue than when I have done the same with the *istD. Neither one felt worse. I have the grip on both the K10D and *istD. Funny, but I think the grip on th

RE: PESO: Hot Dog Heaven

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
Interesting shot. Makes me hungry. :-) Good use of the wide angle. Tom C. >From: "Walter Hamler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: >Subject: PESO: Hot Dog Heaven >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:38:48 -0500 > >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/HDHweb.jpg

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21510186 Very good Hollywood moon effect. I'm looking at it in a brightly lit room, so probably missing some, if not much, of the subtler detail. Seven series Volvo and ?? - Mike, to the left is my wife's 1967 Austin Healey

Re: A couple of PESOs

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Bill, Like 'em both, but the dog one more. -- Bruce Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 11:10:54 PM, you wrote: WR> You need to like dogs for this one. WR> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/bigtongue.html WR> I decided to do my own full moon picture tonight. I don't know why. WR> T

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/3/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So did I. But I was wrong. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory > Just to expand slightly (if I accurately recall my days as a Catholic schoolboy), purgatory is where one goes to "purge" (get it?) one's venial sins from one's soul. One ca

RE: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic. The Hebrew words Sheol and the greek word Hades, are the words most often rendered as Hell in the KJV and other translations. Sheol means the 'abode of the dead', the 'com

Re: PESO - Frozen in Time

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
Thanks Ann. Yes I'm very fortunate to have a wife who will live there. She is literally 1 in a 1000. It's 22 miles to the nearest gas station or grocery store. There is a little podunk convenience store named Ellie's Grocery that's 3 miles of dirt road and another 10 miles of highway from the

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/3/07, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mike, to the left is my wife's 1967 Austin Healey Sprite, which isn't > going anywhere for at least a few days. You guessed correctly about my > 1989 Volvo 740. The mound behind it is a 1987 Mazda B2000. Out of the > scene is my wife's 1989

28-70 F4 quiry

2007-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Is this the lens that seemed to fall apart. There was talk last year here, about a lens in this more or less focal lenght, that was a good performer, but the elements tended to seperate. Was it this one.?? Or another. Actually, comments on this lens would be appreciated. Still trying to deter

PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Standing down in the flat valley really gives these mountains a sense of power. Taken in Utah. Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ F/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_01.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.ne

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the > Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic. Indeed! The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other Christian sects believe in it, I don't know). What h

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
The Monarch shot is good, if a little over-saturated. The road and treeline is a fun example of a blue/gold polarizer. The other two are crap. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: >> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/71055999 > Looking again, I kind of like the rendition of the monarch, (Oh God I > need pr

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: > On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the >> Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic. > > Indeed! > > The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other > Christian sects

Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/03/07 1:12 PM, "Adam Maas", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Monarch shot is good, if a little over-saturated. The road and > treeline is a fun example of a blue/gold polarizer. The other two are crap. Looking at the tree line and its edge, magic wand was used to make the sky look clear :-).

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
Re: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21510186 > Mike, to the left is my wife's 1967 Austin Healey Sprite, which isn't > going anywhere for at least a few days. You guessed correctly about my > 1989 Volvo 740. The mound behind it is a 1987 Mazda B2000. Out of the

Re: PESO: Hot Dog Heaven

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very amusing. This is a great way to use the fisheye effect. Nicely done. -- Bruce Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 9:38:48 AM, you wrote: WH> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/HDHweb.jpg WH> Maybe use it in an upcoming camera club contest. WH> K10D, FE zoom at 10mm WH> Walt

Re: Winter's finger

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/2/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taken on a recent outing in Utah. They do have snow there. > > Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld > ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm I like it! Very tranquil, well composed, interesting pattern in th

Re: 28-70 F4 quiry

2007-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
David J Brooks wrote: > Is this the lens that seemed to fall apart. > > There was talk last year here, about a lens in this more or less focal > lenght, that was a good performer, but the elements tended to seperate. > > Was it this one.?? Or another. > > Actually, comments on this lens would

Re: Winter's finger

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks, glad that you like it. You put into words some of my thoughts. -- Bruce Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 10:16:43 AM, you wrote: ft> On 1/2/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Taken on a recent outing in Utah. They do have snow there. >> >> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld >>

Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/3/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Standing down in the flat valley really gives these mountains a sense > of power. Taken in Utah. > > Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld > ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ F/11 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_01.htm > I'm not sure that I'm as thr

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:12:55 +0100, Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 02 January 2007 22:08, Lucas Rijnders wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:59:51 +0100, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: >> >> Which is very, very far

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
> > On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught >by the > >> Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic. > > > > Indeed! > > > > The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other > > Christian sects believe

Re: PESO - Frozen in Time

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 12/29/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5386798 > Exquisite!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/3/07, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe they only produced the bugeye for one or two years. Yeah, you're right. And, no doubt the Spridget was a much better car - but those cute "eyes" and the smiling grill... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept

Re: PESO: Hot Dog Heaven

2007-01-03 Thread Brendan MacRae
That's a fun one, Walt. -Brendan --- Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/HDHweb.jpg > > Maybe use it in an upcoming camera club contest. > K10D, FE zoom at 10mm > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdm

TTL/P-TTL question

2007-01-03 Thread Cory Papenfuss
A friend of mine with a *ist-DL just bought a cheepie TTL flash and was surprised to discover that it didn't work. I seemed to recall that was one of the neuterings that Pentax did between the DS and the DL (removed TTL flash). Sure enough, it seemed to work fine on my -DS... even wit

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread Christian
frank theriault wrote: > On 1/3/07, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I believe they only produced the bugeye for one or two years. > > Yeah, you're right. And, no doubt the Spridget was a much better car > - but those cute "eyes" and the smiling grill... ...the leaky top and si

Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Keep showing these photos and I'll just have to go there. Bruce Dayton wrote: > Standing down in the flat valley really gives these mountains a sense > of power. Taken in Utah. > > Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld > ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ F/11 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_01.htm > >

Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
It will be good to hear from others to see how they feel. FWIW, I like the elements that seem to bother you. I have shot those mountains without nothing around them and there is no perspective to get a feel for them. They just look like a mountain of some sort. Thanks for your candid comments.

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I find it frightening as well. frank theriault wrote: > On 1/3/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So did I. But I was wrong. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory >> >> > > Just to expand slightly (if I accurately recall my days as a Catholic > schoolboy), purgatory is

Re: PESO: Hot Dog Heaven

2007-01-03 Thread pnstenquist
Nice. You should write a headline and sell it to the restaurant as an ad. Paul -- Original message -- From: "Walter Hamler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/HDHweb.jpg > > Maybe use it in an upcoming camera club contest. > K10D

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi, since I moved to London last year I am a member of IT staff supporting users within Thames & Hudson Ltd., book publishers. http://thamesandhudson.co.uk/ Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: 28-70 F4 quiry

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Yep, you've got it. Elements don't just separate from each other. The rear aspheric element is a composite made from a ground glass portion and a molded optical glass portion, it's this element that breaks down and separates. Too bad as otherwise this is a wonderful lens. I understand that

Re: TTL/P-TTL question

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Not really, there's no reason, outside of deliberate prevention, to keep TTL from working with any lens, on a camera that supports it. The major problem might be that you're outside of the effective range for the flash output / sensor(or film for that matter) sensitivity. But that just assume

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
All things in the Bible are open to interpretation. Less unambiguous documents than that have had wars fought over them... Tom C wrote: >>> On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught >> by the >

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> On 1/1/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyone care to share? > > A&P (Airframe and Powerplant), which is a fancy way of saying > 'airplane mechanic', and I recently received an IA (Inspection > Authorization), which is a fancy way of saying that I have been an A&P > for three year

Re: A couple of PESOs

2007-01-03 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You need to like dogs for this one. > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/bigtongue.html > > I decided to do my own full moon picture tonight. I don't know why. > This was shot with the K10 behind the A600/5.6 and 2XL teleconverter. The > camera was

Remote Control F

2007-01-03 Thread Micah B. Kleit
While I'm waiting -- still waiting, forever waiting -- for my K10D to arrive, I'm wondering if anyone knows if the Remote Control F works with the camera. I already have the grip, and I had read that there's a little place for storing remote controls and SD cards in it, but I haven't seen

Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
I have to ask what you're going to do with the photo. It documents that you were there, but would you hang it on a wall? Would it be the kind of photo that's saleable? Not that the last point matters that much, but what are you trying to achieve? I know the mountains around Salt Lake are bea

Re: 28-70 F4 quiry

2007-01-03 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: >I understand that Pentax is now able to repair these but I haven't >gotten around to sending my sample in. Funny you should mention that: I was just at a local camera shop yesterday and noticed that they had a couple of these lenses, new and boxed, on the shelf. I was thin

RE: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Bob W
> > Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell > are taught by the > Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic. > Well, it's a religion, so it's probably the best that we can expect. However, that wasn't the strange logic that I was referring to. > The Hebrew words Sheol a

Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/3/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW, I > like the elements that seem to bother you. Hey, that's the important thing! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: A couple of PESOs

2007-01-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Gonz" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs >> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/fullmoon.html >> > > The moon picture looks a little soft, that could be because of the SR > interacting with the tripod, or the light cloud cover you mentioned. > B

K10 and Sigma HSM

2007-01-03 Thread Sandy Harris
The dpreview.com page on the Pentax K10D has this text: > Supersonic motors have been available in Canon and Nikon lenses > for a while but not yet to Pentax, the K10D is fully compatible > with upcoming Supersonic Direct-drive motor lenses, the first > of which are expected to be announced around

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
Sure Peter. There are plenty of statements in the Bible that are pretty unambiguous while some are amiguous. If one chooses to interpret either of them in a way that is at odds with the rest of the book, of what value is it? I can do the same with the directions that come for assembling a piec

PESO: Hot Dog Heaven

2007-01-03 Thread Walter Hamler
"Nice. You should write a headline and sell it to the restaurant as an ad." Thanks Paul. Actually they said they would give me a free dog if I bring them a print. I had shown them the lcd view and they liked it. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/list

Re: A couple of PESOs

2007-01-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs > Bill, > > Like 'em both, but the dog one more. Thanks Bruce. The moon picture was more of an excuse to do something rather than nothing when I couldn't fall asleep. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Photographically, Utah is a great place. Well worth a visit. -- Bruce Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 11:02:03 AM, you wrote: PJA> Keep showing these photos and I'll just have to go there. PJA> Bruce Dayton wrote: >> Standing down in the flat valley really gives these mountains a sense >> of pow

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
See the Inferno by Dante... On 1/3/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns > on the PDML. > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: P. J. Alling > > > This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hel

Re: Sensor Cleaning

2007-01-03 Thread Russell Kerstetter
On 1/3/07, Gasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm, looks like i have to do the same. Clean sensor before each shooting. I am thinking the same thing. It's one of those things that should be obvious, but wan't to me until Cotty said it. I have only had it happen twice where I come back in from

Re: Remote Control F

2007-01-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Micah B. Kleit" Subject: Remote Control F > While I'm waiting -- still waiting, forever waiting -- for my K10D to > arrive, I'm wondering if anyone knows if the Remote Control F works > with the camera. I already have the grip, and I had read that > t

Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty

2007-01-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" Subject: Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty > Photographically, Utah is a great place. Bruce, such understatement. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K10 and Sigma HSM

2007-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
Sandy Harris wrote: > The dpreview.com page on the Pentax K10D has this text: > >> Supersonic motors have been available in Canon and Nikon lenses >> for a while but not yet to Pentax, the K10D is fully compatible >> with upcoming Supersonic Direct-drive motor lenses, the first >> of which are exp

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Christian
Cory Papenfuss wrote: > > I hear you. I've got almost 600 hours in my Cherokee 180, and > rewarded myself this fall by earning a tailwheel (1939 J-4!) and > HP/complex in my buddy's PA24-250. I'd like to work on my commercial but > I can't justify the $120+/hour for a complex to train.

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread frank theriault
On 1/3/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...the leaky top and side curtains... :-P If I ever get a Bugeye Sprite, it will only be driven on sunny summer Sunday afternoons... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Bob W wrote: > I do seem to recall that he spent quite a lot of time promising people > jam tomorrow rather than jam today. "I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today." Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdm

Re: Question about DNG

2007-01-03 Thread John Francis
I've now looked around a little more inside files from the K10D (a DNG and a JPG, created at the same time using RAW+JPEG). Both the JPG and the RAW file contain Pentax Private Maker Note data (in an EXIF MakerNote tag in the JPG file, and in the DNG PrivateData tag in the DNG file), and in each c

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Join the Air Force and learn to fly transports... Christian wrote: > Cory Papenfuss wrote: > > >> I hear you. I've got almost 600 hours in my Cherokee 180, and >> rewarded myself this fall by earning a tailwheel (1939 J-4!) and >> HP/complex in my buddy's PA24-250. I'd like to work on

Re: K10 and Sigma HSM

2007-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
No, the spec. for Pentax's version didn't exist when the lenses were made, so the Pentax versions won't have an in lens motor. Newer ones will eventually appear, most likely. Sandy Harris wrote: > The dpreview.com page on the Pentax K10D has this text: > > >> Supersonic motors have been avai

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Russell Kerstetter
On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, "For the > living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are > conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the > remembrance of them has bee

Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

2007-01-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/01/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...the leaky top and side curtains... :-P And all the leg room :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDML

Re: A couple of PESOs

2007-01-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/1/07, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: >But you deciding to leave the camera on the tripod with the SR on >reminded me of when Cotty >was showing us the (600?) with SR almost 2 years ago at GFM - it was >certainly on a tripod. >What goes with that? It was a 70-200 2.8, possibly

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Don Williams
I learned to fly on Piper Cubs (1969) and did my solo in a Super Cub. Then on to a Cherokee 180 (Univerity Flying Club) and finally Cessnas from 140 up to 220. I got an instrument rating in 1965 and ended up with about 440 hours. I don't know where my logbooks are. The last plane I flew was a C

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Margus Männik
Hi, oh yes, my problem is even worse - I can not hear the difference between, let's say 10 and 12 gauge power cables. But there's also a good side of the same medal - whilst I'm practically deaf (in audiophilic meaning of this word), I can solder my own interconnects (for 5 USD per cable meter

Re: style change

2007-01-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/01/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Funny, but I think the grip on the K10D makes it easier to hold the > camera in a horizontal position, as well as vertical. I think what it > is, the grip allows the pinky finger to share the gripping motion of > the rest of the fingers rathe

RE: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Bob W
> > On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes > 9:5, "For the > > living are conscious that they will die; but as for the > dead, they are > > conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have > wages, because the > > remem

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Christian
P. J. Alling wrote: > Join the Air Force and learn to fly transports... I "could" enlist in the Air Force, but they think I'm too old to fly. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

2007-01-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Note, I am not trying to add anything useful to this discourse. Mark. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mai

Re: OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

2007-01-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/1/07, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: >Warning child pictures follow: > >http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/thomas.html Well done mate - he's a keeper ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.

RE: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
Nope. :-) Tom C. >From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" >Subject: RE: OT: Occupations? >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:22:51 - > > > > > On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The concept of Purgatory clearly contradi

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/1/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hey, it's simple, and it does the job. What more do you need? Flash and Gmail. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

RE: PESO: Hot Dog Heaven

2007-01-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Finally, a PESO that's a little different than most! I like it quite a bit. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Walter Hamler > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/HDHweb.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/01/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/1/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Hey, it's simple, and it does the job. What more do you need? > > Flash and Gmail. What's that? You want a Gmail account? LOL -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Tom C
I agree that on is no longer rewarded or punished at the time of death for their lives. The word rendered spirit (pneuma) often refers to breath, as opposed to a soul that is distinct and apart from the body. It's interesting that 1) in Genesis 2:7 that God "formed man of the dust of the ground,

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/1/07, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: >Yes, BUT, it's damn frustrating to be there and not remember what to do with >it!! I assume you refer to a ring-binder ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-03 Thread Margus Männik
Picky doesn't mean that they know how things work. Some do, most, as always, pretend. BR, Margus J. C. O'Connell wrote: >I disagree with that statement. Most serious >hi-fi enthusiast are very picky about their >amps and tend to care whether they are regular >bipolar, mosfet, or tube output ci

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