Re: [Pharo-dev] Please, test our 64bits builds

2017-04-12 Thread Ben Coman
I guess its time for me to throw away my 32-bit Linux install and upgrade to 64-bit. I only installed it to make playing with 32-bit FFI easier. That reason should be passed now. cheers -ben On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hello list, > > We

[Pharo-dev] Fogbugz notifications auto-subscribe

2017-04-05 Thread Ben Coman
Just in case anyone is not aware, you can auto-subscribe to Issues that you comment on. http://help.fogcreek.com/subscriptions-receive-notifications-for-changes-to-cases-and-wikis/ cheers -ben

[Pharo-dev] discord channel request

2017-04-08 Thread Ben Coman
Could we have additional channels: #welcome - which would be the generally advertised invite URL. A read-only channel that informs about community rules and summaries available channels etc (maybe including hidden channels and who to ask for invite) #help - To be referenced from in-Image

[Pharo-dev] VM flavour for Pharo 6 release

2017-04-08 Thread Ben Coman
Hi Esteban, What flavour of VM is going to be in Pharo 6 release? Do you think a move to the thread-beat one is a feasible? On Case 19820 "Epicea: GrafPort error when open browser" [1] I see the comment "These are two different VM versions. In both I have sometimes this crash, sometimes another

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > You know what amazes me about this discussion ? > > not one even bothered posting > a single screenshot demonstration all these "problems" , just one . To rebut you, you haven't been paying attention :) :P

Re: [Pharo-dev] In the quest of a new iterator :)

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 09:05:15AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Nicolas Cellier > > <nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >

[Pharo-dev] Spotter feature idea/request - exclusion filter

2017-04-20 Thread Ben Coman
I had a poke at this but couldn't find my way into how Spotter filters work, so I'll just pass on the idea. Wanting to look at implementers of #withIndex* several tests are mixed in the result that it would be nice to eliminate by typing "subtract test" like this... " -test " much like I'd do in

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Fwd: Nix package for Pharo flavor of opensmalltalk-vm

2017-04-20 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > Moved thread back to pharo-dev for image-side nix packaging discussion. Whoops. Try again, back to pharo-dev. > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Luke Gorrie <l...@snabb.co> wrote: >> >&g

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-20 Thread Ben Coman
I see in 60467 that the deed is done. Okay, so moving forward... be prepared ;) for a surge of feedback as a bunch of us dark-theme-newbies start using it in earnest. I understand those that been using it a while already are obviously happy with how its tuned, and probably not many things can be

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:42:42PM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Luke Gorrie <l...@snabb.co> wrote: >> > On 15 April 2017 at 10:08, A

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing default theme to DarkTheme

2017-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > Can people just explain to my why we have so many big threads each time > a default settings is changed? > Law of triviality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality Because its natural to have

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
Whoops, now copied to pharo-dev to continue discussion there. On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Luke Gorrie <l...@snabb.co> wrote: >> >> On 14 April 2017 at 22:20, Stephane Ducasse <

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Luke Gorrie wrote: > On 15 April 2017 at 10:08, Alistair Grant wrote: > > Grabbing the source directly from Git is attractive if (a) I know that I am > choosing a good version and (b) I am able to build it in a good way. > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Missing VMMaker repo in Pharo 6

2017-04-18 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 1:57 PM, K K Subbu wrote: > On Monday 17 April 2017 11:52 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > > StartupPreferencesLoader default >> addAtStartupInGeneralPreferenceFolder: >> {(StartupAction >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Commenting the Session Manager

2017-04-18 Thread Ben Coman
hi Guille, Thanks very much for that detailed write up. I have one concern about the [bracketed] text... A new session starts when the image starts [or when the image is saved]. A session ends when the image quits [or it is saved]. Doing the following in a playground... s1 :=

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea should ask before recovering

2017-04-19 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Rajula Vineet wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in this issue. Maybe I will try adding this feature of a > pop > up when an image crashes, which asks 'do you want to recover your lost > changes?' > > Rajula > > Give it a go.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Security in the image

2017-04-23 Thread Ben Coman
ity to do so. >> >> Then, the problem is that right now Pharo's reflective API is convoluted >> with the base API, and thus from any piece of code you can do e.g.,: >> >> anyObject superclass superclass allSubclasses... >> >> A possible solution to this i

[Pharo-dev] Help browser topic ordering

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
What is it that defines the ordering of topics in the help browser? I see slice 19963 added a "Travis Integration" topic into build 60468 http://forum.world.st/pharo-project-pharo-core-7bde98-60468-td4942945.html and its ended up at the top of the list above "Welcome", but I determine from the

[Pharo-dev] DarkTheme - tool bar icon color inconsistent

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
n the previous white theme, toolbar icons matched the colour of their text. This makes a lot sense and is pleasant. In the dark theme, there is no correlation. Is this oversight or deliberate intent? It jars my senses. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19973/DarkTheme-tool-bar-icons cheers

[Pharo-dev] confused about hanging pointer

2017-04-23 Thread Ben Coman
Background: I'm looking into https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19973/DarkTheme-tool-bar-icons Take for example UITheme>> windowMaximizeForm "Answer the form to use for the maximize button of a window." "self haltOnce." ^self forms at: #windowMaximize ifAbsent: [ "self

Re: [Pharo-dev] Traits methods flattened

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Hilaire wrote: > Hi, > > I installed the slice in a Pharo5 image. It does not work on my package, > nor the the test package. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19938 > > Does the slice only work on Pharo6? I don't know, but I see sixty

Re: [Pharo-dev] Security in the image

2017-04-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2017-04-12 18:32 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com>: >> >> If you want hostile actors working directly within the Image with a full >> environment, then Pharo is probably

[Pharo-dev] Spotter idea - bring existing code windows to front

2017-03-04 Thread Ben Coman
A quick note on an idea that strikes me, I often find myself with a large number of windows open and I know I have a code window open previously but the task bar is a bit opaque to find it, and its so cheap to open a new code window from Spotter, thats what I do, and open yet another window,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger: is there a way to skip a message?

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:20 AM, stepharong wrote: > Hi > > I need to skip message while debugging and I thought that it was possible. > May be I do not see it. This would be a nice feature. I never noticed if we ever had it Two work arounds I sometimes use... * select rest

Re: [Pharo-dev] 60437 empty catalog

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM, David T. Lewis <le...@mail.msen.com> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:14:58PM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: >> Anyone else getting an empty Catalog? >> >> In 60437 & CoInterpreter * VMMaker.oscog-eem.2143 uuid: >> fe064b6b-e5

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mini Pharo -> JavaScript translator?

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 1:16 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: > http://www.squeaksource.com/@xxu3r2Ma7SbqJi3E/1j-SgMCf (74000 downloads). Hi Hannes, That link doesn't work. You need to pick the html one under "Links" heading half way down the project page. cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] image not opening.

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Coman
Maybe related? http://forum.world.st/BUG-A-problem-with-callbacks-that-shows-up-in-64bits-but-is-on-32bits-too-td4938152.html On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > > On ven. 10 mars 2017 at 18:42, stepharong wrote: >> >> We found

[Pharo-dev] 60437 empty catalog

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Coman
Anyone else getting an empty Catalog? In 60437 & CoInterpreter * VMMaker.oscog-eem.2143 uuid: fe064b6b-e530-4766-837d-799ffe1e8dcd Mar 3 2017 (i386itimer-201703031554.zip) Sorry I'm too tired to bisect it myself right now. (Just spent 10 hours sanding the wooden floors of my brothers house)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fwd: Where are the Metacello ConfigurationOfYourProject supposed to be?

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 1:34 AM, stepharong wrote: > Nicolas > Since a couple of years already we have one MetaRepo per version > > MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo60' > user: 'StephaneDucasse' password: '' > MCSmalltalkhubRepository

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use the serial port on MacOS X?

2017-03-13 Thread Ben Coman
/viewtopic.php?t=376 Difference between cu.* and tty.* https://lists.apple.com/archives/usb/2009/Nov/msg00039.html cheers -ben On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > Hi Olivier, > > You'd only mentioned the middle one, which I didn't think

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use the serial port on MacOS X?

2017-03-13 Thread Ben Coman
n use the Arduino IDE to program the card and send my binaries. > > If my Pharo code is correct, I suspect a problem in the serial plugin for > MacOS X. I tried unsuccessful with Pharo 5 and Pharo 6. > > Best regards > Olivier :) > > 2017-03-13 8:01 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <b...

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger feature I would pay for

2017-03-13 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:53 AM, stepharong wrote: > Hi doru > > You have some features and I would love to use it for real. > > Here is my scenario: I have a test failing in pillar dev but not in my > previous image. :( > > I want to run a test in an image (green test). >

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to use the serial port on MacOS X?

2017-03-13 Thread Ben Coman
Just a few random thoughts... Can you load an echo program into the Arduino to check comms is not getting corrupted? https://www.baldengineer.com/alternatives-to-arduinos-serial-monitor.html Is the problem with a USB3 port? Try using a USB2 port. Are you using an FTDI cable?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] threaded heartbeat VMs added to zeroconf

2017-03-13 Thread Ben Coman
Good discussion here... http://forum.world.st/Unix-heartbeat-thread-vs-itimer-td4928943.html#a4928961 cheers -ben On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > Can you explain what a Threaded Heartbeat VM is? > I can do some inference based on the name,

[Pharo-dev] Welcome screen

2017-03-06 Thread Ben Coman
Just wanted to say I like what Squeak has done with their welcome screens. First, the main buttons to Skip or Configure and... 1. Choose a Theme 2. Visual settings 3. Interaction settings 4. More interaction settings 5. Other settings Probably we wouldn't want all those, but at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

2017-03-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 6:35 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > This is not only when teaching. > > I was at a conference today and showcased some Grafoscopio. > > Spotty wifi and crowded bandwith makes it bad looking. > > We need an "Airplane mode" switch. That is a cool way to

Re: [Pharo-dev] running Hapao using 60429 image - Pharo dies

2017-03-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:14 AM, wrote: > Hello, > I was working at loading Hapao into the latest Pharo image, and ran into a > problem. I started with a brand new download of Pharo 5.0, and got the > latest development image and changes for 6.0 (60429). I then

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: [vwnc] Does anyone have a "new" string literal?

2017-03-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:17 AM, DavidLeibs wrote: > > > Were I to do anything in Smalltalk and the Compiler and Parser frameworks > still supported the #compilerClass and #parserClass invocations at the > right > place I know what I need to do to give myself a huge leg up

[Pharo-dev] code loss when cancelling during save.

2017-03-01 Thread Ben Coman
I just got bitten by a code loss. I'm not sure what to search for on Fogbugz, so I'll just ask if anyone has already logged it. 1. Start with an existing method 2. Add a line assigning to an unknown variable. e.g. blah := 0. 3. Click on another method ==> "Contents have been modified, what do

[Pharo-dev] strange idea about slots

2017-03-01 Thread Ben Coman
I'm not sure I'm thinking straight, but I wonder... Can you put Slots inside an Association? For example, could have two slots x and y, and then be able to do the following... (x -> y) substitute: (1 -> 2). self assert: x equals: 1. self assert: y equals: 2. So the association

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea - showing latest lost changes

2017-03-02 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Martin Dias wrote: > Uko: OK, added it as: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/ > f/cases/19768/Epicea-Lost-Changes-Detector-Add-Apply-all- > button-on-top-of-the-list-of-change > > Stef: I see... each line should have a checkbox. I remember to see in

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Segmentation fault on Moose 6.1 Build

2017-03-02 Thread Ben Coman
To confirm specific reproducibility, using... http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60421.zip I did... $ cd opensmalltalk-vm $ git checkout d54edc56 $ git log commit d54edc5638c9f90c80f214e59e19240f8ead87f8 Author: Eliot Miranda Date: Thu Mar 2 09:53:05 2017

[Pharo-dev] Spotter - could ignore message parameters

2017-03-02 Thread Ben Coman
Just a quick note... I find that I often copy a long keyword message like this... dispatchEvent: anEvent with: from source code and paste it into spotter. But Spotter gets confused by the "anEvent" parameter, and even spaces, so I have to edit all those out. It would be cool if Spotter was

[Pharo-dev] Tools > Calypso

2017-03-02 Thread Ben Coman
hi Dennis, When installing Calypso from the Catalog, its a pain to have to search the forums to lookup up to do... #ClySystemBrowser asClass open. Could you add an entry under World > Tools? cheers -ben

[Pharo-dev] Help currency review

2017-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
At this late stage of Pharo 6 development, it might be good to do a pass at... World > Help > Help Browser content Epicea >Browsers - mentions two separate browser windows GT Debugger >> Actions - TODO GT Playground >> Overview - http://gt.moosetechnology.org redirects to http://gtoolkit.org/

[Pharo-dev] stepping off the end of the debug stack

2017-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
I imagine a newcomer exploring the system could easily step off the end of the debug stack like this... (1 printString) "debugIt" then StepOver six times where the image hangs at "Processor terminateActive" This could have a strong impact against first impressions. What would it take to guard

[Pharo-dev] SmallInteger #printString versus #printOn:

2017-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
I was going to slip this example into the welcome help, 1 printString [debugIt] and I'm confronted by SmallInteger>>printString printString "Highly optimized version for base 10 and that we know it is a SmallInteger." | integer next result len | self = 0 ifTrue: [^'0']. self < 0 ifTrue: [^'-',

[Pharo-dev] books site description

2017-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
Just a passing thought, at http://files.pharo.org/books/ it might be nice for the top descriptive text to indicate a reading order. Something like... Newcomers should start with Pharo By Example, then proceed to: - Spec UI Framework for desktop applications, - Enterprise Pharo for web

Re: [Pharo-dev] stepping off the end of the debug stack

2017-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > > I imagine a newcomer exploring the system could easily step off the end of > the debug stack like this... > > (1 printString) "debugIt" > then StepOver six times where the image han

[Pharo-dev] Enhanced GitHub code review

2017-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
I bumped into this student dissertation. I only skimmed it quickly since its not a current interest of mine but I thought it might align with some members research interests. http://repository.tudelft.nl/islandora/object/uuid%3A52517b50-5da1-419a-b914-c276722410e4?collection=education cheers

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 32b2db: 60455

2017-03-31 Thread Ben Coman
Just a note, since 60455 the following Athens no longer fails 30 seconds later... | view form1 form2| view := AthensSceneView new. form1 := UIThemeWatery new scrollbarThumbHorizontalMiddleForm. form2 := UIThemeWatery new scrollbarThumbVerticalMiddleForm. view scene: [:canvas | canvas

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tired of losing messages after 10k. Can we re-discuss moving Slack community to Discord?

2017-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
I was disappointed that conversation didn't pick up in discord after the last announcement. cheers -ben P.S. I'm interested in playing with the discord API. https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/reference but I can't get past the first step of OAuth authentication.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Mustache moved to github

2017-07-31 Thread Ben Coman
I found this useful to clarify my understanding of git... https://git-scm.com/book/en/v1/Git-Internals cheers -ben On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > So I’m still puzzled why what I have said is incorrect - tag on master, > update your repository url to

[Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher - uninformative Pharo7 template names

2017-08-03 Thread Ben Coman
Attached is what I see for Pharo 7 images in PharoLauncher. I presume the top one is the latest, but Its a bit hard to tell :P Anyone else seeing this? Loading ConfigurationOfPharoLauncher-ChristopheDemarey.53 (latest) and doing "ConfigurationOfPharoLauncher loadDevelopment" which loads

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-15 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > You hit several birds with one single mail. > > 2017-08-14 13:34 GMT-03:00 Tim Mackinnon : > > Jimmie et al. nicely reasoned arguments - and Doru's point about > controlling > > the syntax is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

2017-08-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopol...@gmail.com > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > >> In case any of the shutdown/startup scripts use a delay, now or in the >> future, >>

[Pharo-dev] PharoDays17: Bloc video - displaying metrics while prototyping

2017-08-13 Thread Ben Coman
I was watching PharoDays17: Bloc video and @53:15 there was a question due to offset being negative... https://youtu.be/ikzkzfz0zAA?t=3197 ...and I had a random idea (so not necessarily practical) that since we have "metrics" as an object, I wonder if a built in feature to draw these metrics

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

2017-08-15 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > Is there a way for this to get back into 6.1 - so we can shoot for a > stable 6.x version that will last us for a year while 7.x is under > development? > > I’m not familiar with how point release are handled in Pharo, and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

2017-08-15 Thread Ben Coman
In case any of the shutdown/startup scripts use a delay, now or in the future, I'd first try athighestPriority-1 to avoid influence on the DelayScheduler. but then Eliot's suggestion to valueUnpreemptively may avoid that anyway. btw, what happens if an error occurs inside valueUnpreemptively?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFFTOPIC] Update: Debris Publishing / Quuve Research & Portfolio Management Platform

2017-07-15 Thread Ben Coman
How are you approaching marketing? Do you have any "lite" version thats free? It seems to me that products doing this end up having the broadest reach. For example take my history with PDFXchange. I first used it because I was searching for a free alternative to Adobe Acrobat with simple

Re: [Pharo-dev] WorkingSession log

2017-07-27 Thread Ben Coman
I vaguely remember StrikeFonts being considered for removal once(??) but this seems a good reason to not do that, and eliminate the FreeType stuff for server-side deployment. cheers -ben On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > This is really

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sources location inconsistency between WIndows and OSX

2017-06-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > Hi, > > I just realised that on OSX it is enough to put .sources in the same > folder with Pharo.app which is extremely cool because there is no need to > carry them around with images. > IIUC this won't work with

Re: [Pharo-dev] Reviewing of the pull requests

2017-06-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > the reviewing of the pull requests is currently not as easy as we would > like to have. For simple changes it should be enough to go to the pull > requests list

Re: [Pharo-dev] The new implementation of current working directory

2017-06-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Alistair Grant > wrote: > >> Rajula, thanks for your write-up. >> >> As the person who pushed Rajula to send his email I feel I should >> respond.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Esteban's ChangeLog week of 26 June 2017

2017-07-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > Hello! > > This is my weekly ChangeLog, from 26 June 2017 to 2 July 2017. > You can see it in a better format by going here: > http://log.smallworks.eu/web/search?from=26/6/2017=2/7/2017 > > ChangeLog > = > > 29 June 2017: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher

2017-07-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> where can I find the pharo launcher for the latest version of Pharo? >> >> > > ​I'm still fighting to use

Re: [Pharo-dev] Reflecting on data (literal) object syntax

2017-07-03 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks Christian for the open release of pdf4smalltalk. Sorry I aborted the two times I started to port it to Pharo. The task of dealing with both file format and namespace differences to synchronise with VW was too big for me. Now with Iceberg, if VisualWorks might work with git that would

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommended production VM on latest macOS Sierra?

2017-07-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > So does that mean we should use the Pharo5 vm for production then? It > sounds like 6 is still a bit bleeding edge There is probably no stability advantage in Pharo-5-32bit over Pharo-6-32bit, and "6" will be supported

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 provisional HOWTO

2017-06-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kube...@icloud.com> wrote: > > El 28-06-2017, a las 02:57, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> escribió: > > > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com > > wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Updated tech talk archive

2017-04-26 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks Marcus. I see the schedule here... https://association.pharo.org/events doesn't mention Pharo 7 development process. I think that will be useful to have a presentation. Maybe a special-edition TechTalk aligned shortly after Pharo 6 Release? cheers -ben On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:09 PM,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Updated tech talk archive

2017-04-26 Thread Ben Coman
et, so we could use that. > > Marcus > > On 26 Apr 2017, at 16:18, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > > Thanks Marcus. > I see the schedule here... https://association.pharo.org/events > doesn't mention Pharo 7 development process. > I think that will be useful to hav

Re: [Pharo-dev] Commenting the Session Manager

2017-04-26 Thread Ben Coman
should fix it for pharo 7. > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > >> hi Guille, >> >> Thanks very much for that detailed write up. I have one concern about >> the [bracketed] text... >>A new session starts

Re: [Pharo-dev] Commenting the Session Manager

2017-04-26 Thread Ben Coman
eh! sorry, thats way too confusing to leave alone. I meant... I'm not sure I properly understand. On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > I'm sure I properly understand, you mean to change the behaviour rather > than the comment? > My naiv

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello: Script to suck up versions from a filetree repository and copy them to an HTTP repository?

2017-04-27 Thread Ben Coman
The natural thing for us in pharo-land is to script to movement of MC HTTP repos to git. This article describes why it actually could be worthwhile ensuring moving git to MC HTTP is also easy... https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/06/03/strategy-letter-iii-let-me-go-back/ cheers -ben On Fri,

[Pharo-dev] Implementers code pane undo goes too far

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
I hit some strange behaviour... Setup... 1. In playground, type... green 2. Open implementers on it 3. Select the second line "Color class(defaults)green" 4. Click in the code pane Observe that "green" is pre-selected and the cursor is flashing at end of first line 5. Start typing... self

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementers code pane undo goes too far

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Coman
stead of PluggableTextMorph " [1] http://forum.world.st/pharo-project-pharo-core-03b7d7-50245-td4843802.html cheers -ben On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > I hit some strange behaviour... > > Setup... > 1. In playground, type... green >

Re: [Pharo-dev] IMPORTANT: iceberg home changed

2017-04-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Why not make a Pharo team , we already have one for the books which also > has a weird name "square bracker associates" , > I don't think its weird. Square brackets "[ ]" to delineate blocks of code is one

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 screenshot

2017-04-24 Thread Ben Coman
That last one is much better. I really like the presentation of the "newProcess" method. Its a quick technical dive. Perhaps the comment needs to be tuned a wider audience, describing how process creation is green-thread and and all managed by Smalltalk code. The warning about debugging this

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher - uninformative Pharo7 template names

2017-08-07 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Guillermo Polito < >> guillermopol...@gm

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher - uninformative Pharo7 template names

2017-08-04 Thread Ben Coman
s that Pavel will discuss again with Guile on > that topic. It would be good if others > could comment on that topic too. Maybe we can return to the known build > number scheme > or (if there are problems with that) at least know the arguments why we > need to be exotic/different o

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher - uninformative Pharo7 template names

2017-08-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > About tagging... It looks super ackward to me to tag EVERY commit with > "build information". > I'm not sure which comment your responding to, and not sure what you mean by "build information", but obviously

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher - uninformative Pharo7 template names

2017-08-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopol...@gmail.com > wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Guillermo Polito < >> guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Ben Coman
> Normally you have a CI that builds from the latest pharo image + the latest commit from your repo and you start with that all couple of days/weeks (This is important to make sure that you have a reproduce build, too). This is expected for production code, but maybe not the workflow for everyone

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 crash when requesting memory from the JVM library

2017-05-03 Thread Ben Coman
> My fault, however, neither Pharo's nor the JVM's. > > > Thanks to all involved in replies. > > > Greetings > Raffaello > > > > On 2017-05-03 13:52, Ben Coman wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Raffaello Giulietti < >&

Re: [Pharo-dev] Idea of searcheability of Pharo project on git

2017-05-14 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> On 13 May 2017, at 15:04, Dale Henrichs >> wrote: >> >> Steph, >> >> As Thierry mentions you should create an umbrella project for Pharo where >> you can maintain a list of

Re: [Pharo-dev] 08/05/17 - Tabular Data Structures for Data Analysis - Oleksandr Zaytsev

2017-05-09 Thread Ben Coman
[redirected from pharo-gsoc to pharo-dev] On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Oleksandr Zaytsev <olk.zayt...@gmail.com> wrote: > A. Improved my fix of this case: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19396, as > suggested by Ben Coman, and created a slice for it (I think it works like P

Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC 2017 Introduction

2017-05-10 Thread Ben Coman
Welcome Myro, Good to see you getting involved early in the process. I understand you bumped into Pharo at your university, but there seems no great Pharo presence there. I'd be interested to hear a bit more about how you discovered Pharo. cheers -ben On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Myroslava

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 crash when requesting memory from the JVM library

2017-05-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.mira...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > >> On May 16, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Raffaello Giulietti >> <raffaello.giul

Re: [Pharo-dev] Current working directory

2017-05-17 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Rajula Vineet wrote: > Hi all, > > I am working on improving pharo command line as a part of my GSoC project. I > have been looking at different current working directory implementations. I > have written a blog post >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Git breaks Monticello's version numbers

2017-05-13 Thread Ben Coman
Could a pragmatic fix be simply... if the first-generated MC version number is greater than 1, then re-generate the MC version number based off the latest version number in the MC repository. But the bigger question is for... v1(MC) --> v2(git) --> v3(git) --> v4(git) --> v5(MC) what

[Pharo-dev] remote development via VS Code

2017-06-07 Thread Ben Coman
I just bumped into Microsoft's MIT Licensed IDE "Visual Studio Code" that runs on OSX, Linux & Windows. What is interesting is their Debug Protocol for connecting to language specific debuggers. * https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/extensionAPI/api-debugging If I had time, it would be

Re: [Pharo-dev] GitHub survey on open source projects

2017-06-20 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks for your comments Cesar. Please also take care when replying to a digest to trim the trailing posts that are unrelated. cheers -ben On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 5:18 AM, wrote: > -- > Cesar Rabak > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:17:59 +0200 > From: "p...@highoctane.be"

Re: [Pharo-dev] Found an error

2017-06-19 Thread Ben Coman
Hi Jeremie, I can't see anything definitive in that log. Just a few usual questions... Is this something you can reproduce? (especially in a fresh Image) What packages have you loaded? What OS, VM & Image versions are you using? cheers -ben On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Jérémie Regnault <

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo in a read-only environment survey

2017-06-19 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Jérémie Regnault < jeremie.regna...@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi, I'm working on Pharo deployment in a read-only environment, and I > want to know what behavior you want Pharo to adopt. If you could take > 5-10 minutes to fill my survey, it would be nice : >

Re: [Pharo-dev] New User and the Rectangle class.

2017-06-21 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Trey Tomes wrote: > Chris: Thank you for the reference to the topLeftOffset:bottomRightOffset: > API, that resolved my problem really well. > @all, Would this be suitable for a QA rule? cheers -ben > I'm glad to have a solution that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recursively downloading Pharo packages / Building images with Nix

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Luke Gorrie wrote: > Hi again Ben, > > I have an idea for a hacky way to import all of the Pharo packages into my > universe. Shooting holes in this idea would be welcome :). > > Suppose that for each package "P" in the catalog I want to make a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recursively downloading Pharo packages / Building images with Nix

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Luke, > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Luke Gorrie wrote: > >> Hi again Ben, >> >> I have an idea for a hacky way to import all of the Pharo packages into >> my universe. Shooting holes in

Re: [Pharo-dev] Esteban's ChangeLog week of 19 June 2017

2017-06-26 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > Hello! > > This is my weekly ChangeLog, from 19 June 2017 to 25 June 2017. > You can see it in a better format by going here: > http://log.smallworks.eu/web/search?from=19/6/2017=25/6/2017 > > ChangeLog > = > > 21 June 2017:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recursively downloading Pharo packages / Building images with Nix

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Luke Gorrie wrote: > Howdy! > > I want to build Pharo images using Nix . On the > one hand this should look basically like the Jenkins scripts, but on the > other hand the build must run inside a sandbox that is isolated

[Pharo-dev] Calypso technology preview.

2017-05-19 Thread Ben Coman
It is probably much too late to suggest this, but if Calypso is a candidate for our next browser, perhaps it could be included in Pharo 6 as a technology preview? Or maybe in a half-year point release Pharo 6.x ? cheers -ben

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