Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground

2014-10-03 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: On 03 Oct 2014, at 12:46, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 03 Oct 2014, at 12:21, p...@highoctane.be mailto:p...@highoctane.be wrote: Frankly, I see fogbugz issues closed with some ignore/cannot reproduce status, so, I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground size

2014-10-04 Thread Ben Coman
p...@highoctane.be wrote: Well, my Spotlight looks like this: Inline image 1 You'll notice the $expr to execute commands. Works well. Code is here: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/HOExtras/packages/Tools Tools is an hefty package. Always interesting to dig in there. Looks

Re: [Pharo-dev] About ways to participate in community and general negativity

2014-10-04 Thread Ben Coman
Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Ben, On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com wrote: Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, Indeed, you are right about noting that the situation will look different in a couple of months from now. Please

Re: [Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-05 Thread Ben Coman
kmo wrote: I've raised two issues on the GT playground: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14158/Navigation-buttons-icons-at-bottom-of-GT-playground-are-meaningless-unintuitive

Re: [Pharo-dev] structuring widget examples

2014-10-05 Thread Ben Coman
Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Stef, Great. GT is already prepared for this :). If you define a gtExample on the class side, you will get an E.g. tab with those examples. It's called gtExample because we did not want to interfere with other pragmas, but perhaps we can change it to eg, or example.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 14160: Introduce isXXX dialect testing methods to SmalltalkImage to ease cross-dialect development

2014-10-05 Thread Ben Coman
Johan Brichau wrote: It’s true that when you do a lot of cross-dialect development, such a method is often what you desire. However, I think it’s better to do feature detection instead of dialect detection. +1 and others agree... (though on the net its possible to find material to support

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Ben Coman
Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Esteban, I know it's a usability principle, but usability should also take into account culture. Programmers are not every-day users, and the assumptions we take should adapt to their needs. This is why it is worth exploring what might or might not be needed. I cannot

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Ben Coman
Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com wrote: Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Esteban, I know it's a usability principle, but usability should also take into account culture. Programmers

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 14160: Introduce isXXX dialect testing methods to SmalltalkImage to ease cross-dialect development

2014-10-06 Thread Ben Coman
Jan Vrany wrote: OK. I think enough has been said. No need to waste more time on it. I closed the issue. Thanks Nicolai for making the slice for me! Best, Jan Thanks for the attempt. Even though I didn't like the isAxxx pattern, and feature testing is better, you have me thinking that

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #‎framework for the web

2014-10-07 Thread Ben Coman
Sebastian Sastre wrote: I don’t know, flow is a mission with a curated framework (so it’s mission first) What you can see is flow’s features being done here: https://trello.com/b/NVqhll4I/flow I get... Board not found. This board may be private. If someone gave you this link, they may need

Re: [Pharo-dev] About ways to participate in community and general negativity

2014-10-10 Thread Ben Coman
Tim Mackinnon wrote: Hi guys - this was an interesting thread - and exactly the reason why I brought up “Zapp Empowerment” at ESUG this year. just to let you know, based on your enthusiasm for this book, I bought it (but not yet read it). And one minor thought on the original post that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tests around Pharo

2014-10-13 Thread Ben Coman
mschepens, Your list of tests looks like a useful enhancement. I notice your three issues are tagged milestone=Pharo3.0, but that milestone has past. As policy Pharo 3 now only gets bug fixes, not enhancements (even nice ones like tests, which we love). Your work will be integrated into

Re: [Pharo-dev] BlockClosure source code

2014-10-15 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: On 14 Oct 2014, at 16:42, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 10 Oct 2014, at 12:29, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 10 Oct 2014, at 10:57, Jan Kurš k...@iam.unibe.ch

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tests around Pharo

2014-10-16 Thread Ben Coman
mschepens wrote: I finally managed the proxy problem by sending commits from my own web connection. So I put the issues to Fix review needed. I had some problems while importing Collections-Tests (Native part, for the FloatArrayTest) but finally managed it too. I sent to Damien Cassou the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

2014-10-16 Thread Ben Coman
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:34, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: I too miss the old workspace sometimes. Mostly for printIt. Playgrounds printIt-popup is good, but sometimes I want exactly

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethodhash can produce clashes

2014-10-16 Thread Ben Coman
Richard Sargent wrote: Eliot Miranda-2 wrote On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Sargent richard.sargent@ wrote: One of the best things about Smalltalk is how easily we can say what we mean. I think you would be better off creating a method named something like #hasSameEffectAs: to

[Pharo-dev] Rectangle differences between Pharo 3 4

2014-10-16 Thread Ben Coman
I notice a difference between Pharo 3 4... Rectangle left: 4 right: 3 top: 2 bottom: 1. Build 30856 -- (4@2) corner: (3@1) Build 40309 -- (3@1) corner: (4@2) Rectangle origin: (4@1) corner: (3@2) Build 30856 -- (4@1) corner: (3@2) Build 40309 -- (3@1) corner: (4@2) I remember some report of

Re: [Pharo-dev] new Pharo Success story

2014-10-19 Thread Ben Coman
stepharo wrote: Hi we just published a new success story: Pharo at CSOB http://pharo.org/success And yes we are interested in your success stories Stef PS: big thanks to Tomas and CSOB for letting us making this public. Great news. Congrats to the CSOB development team. There are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec Understandability

2014-10-21 Thread Ben Coman
kilon alios wrote: For me there is nothing that sucks more than having to type code to create a GUI in year 2014 This a strong reason why I miss my days coding in Delphi so much. at least halos try to compensate for that partly.I love halos please dont remove them, good thing they suck

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec Understandability

2014-10-21 Thread Ben Coman
Ralph Boland wrote: Besides error intractability, there is also a cost to understanding the system via exploration - a glorious benefit of Morphic. In the past, one only had to bring up halos on and inspect a button to see how to duplicate its action. Now, to see what happens when one

Re: [Pharo-dev] Modbus project

2014-10-26 Thread Ben Coman
Jesus Mari Aguirre wrote: I'm interested in this project http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects/modbus, anyone knows if this project is alive, I am working in a fuzzy logic lib and it could be useful in order to connect my lib to the real world I proposed that one, but it didn't get the votes,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Experience makers

2014-10-27 Thread Ben Coman
Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: To summarise I’d like to propose adding startup scripts manager to pharo luncher. What’s more, usually we are working on our one “project”. And as it’s a good practice to start from a fresh image, we either have to load a configuration of it into fresh images or download

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

2014-10-29 Thread Ben Coman
Norbert Hartl wrote: I have a report that it doesn't work on a linux desktop either. So at least there is one case where it does not work in a non-virtualized environment. Maybe interesting: root@2d-misc:/opt/mock-server# time pharo-vm-nox ./Pharo.image eval (Delay forSeconds: 5) wait. (Delay

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

2014-10-29 Thread Ben Coman
Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:03:03AM +0100, Norbert Hartl wrote: Good Evening, I have a report that it doesn't work on a linux desktop either. So at least there is one case where it does not work in a non-virtualized environment. Maybe interesting:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

2014-10-29 Thread Ben Coman
Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:54:57PM +0100, Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:03:03AM +0100, Norbert Hartl wrote: Good Evening, Hi again, I don't know how you debug startUp issues. I just added an OrderedCollection into the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

2014-10-30 Thread Ben Coman
Eliot Miranda wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com wrote: Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:54:57PM +0100, Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

2014-10-31 Thread Ben Coman
Norbert Hartl wrote: Am 30.10.2014 um 12:52 schrieb Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Eliot Miranda wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com wrote: Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:54:57PM +0100

Re: [Pharo-dev] Super fast delay

2014-10-31 Thread Ben Coman
Ben Coman wrote: Norbert Hartl wrote: Am 30.10.2014 um 12:52 schrieb Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Eliot Miranda wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com wrote: Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06

[Pharo-dev] ImageCleaner interaction with Delay

2014-11-02 Thread Ben Coman
ImageCleanercleanUpForRelease calls cleanUpMethods which calls Delay classstartTimerEventLoop. I thought this would have started with a clean/empty suspended delays heap, but it carries forward the old SuspendedDelays. So if there happened to be a suspended delay expiring in a month's time,

Re: [Pharo-dev] ImageCleaner interaction with Delay

2014-11-03 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: On 02 Nov 2014, at 19:19, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: ImageCleanercleanUpForRelease calls cleanUpMethods which calls Delay classstartTimerEventLoop. I thought this would have started with a clean/empty suspended delays heap, but it carries forward the old

Re: [Pharo-dev] Internship position at Thales

2014-11-04 Thread Ben Coman
stepharo wrote: Please distribute and contact eric eric.lep...@fr.thalesgroup.com Begin forwarded message: From: LE PORS Eric eric.lep...@fr.thalesgroup.com Subject: Ouverture de sujet de stage Pharo Date: 3 Nov 2014 11:12:18 GMT+1 To: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr STAGE :

Re: [Pharo-dev] Browse anObject?

2014-11-04 Thread Ben Coman
Sean P. DeNigris wrote: This one smells funny to me... Object#browse ^ self systemNavigation browseClass: self class A less surprising API might be: - Object#browseClass - and, Class#browse as implemented above What do you think? - Cheers, Sean In GTInspector, right click on

Re: [Pharo-dev] Browse anObject?

2014-11-05 Thread Ben Coman
Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Ben Coman wrote I think this shows its fairly well established that 'Browse' on its own means view the object's code I still vote to change it to more clearly reveal the intention. While perhaps not particularly significant in itself, all these little gotchas pile up

Re: [Pharo-dev] inria survey

2014-11-07 Thread Ben Coman
stepharo wrote: Hi guys you can help us to improve our communication as a research center. Please take some minutes to fill this little survey. Stef -- VERSION FRANÇAISE -- Créé depuis 2002 à Lille, le centre de recherche Inria

[Pharo-dev] Visit/accept method naming philosophy

2014-11-07 Thread Ben Coman
This is a general query and something I've wondered several times before in different situations, but I use OSWindow as an example since that is what I happen to be looking at this time. For curiosity I was having a poke around OSWindow and seeing OSWindowMorphicEventHandlerhandleEvent:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Visit/accept method naming philosophy

2014-11-08 Thread Ben Coman
described one purpose typing? But I'm note sure what using a pragma would add, particularly since I can't see past how would you link invocation and implementation. Using #acceptSomeClass: seems the simplest thing that would work. cheers -ben Regards, Alain Le 08/11/2014 07:28, Ben Coman

Re: [Pharo-dev] Visit/accept method naming philosophy

2014-11-08 Thread Ben Coman
Thierry Goubier wrote: Hi Ben, 2014-11-08 7:28 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com: This is a general query and something I've wondered several times before in different situations, but I use OSWindow as an example since that is what I happen

Re: [Pharo-dev] inria survey

2014-11-08 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: I've completed it, but some ambiguities I encountered... What is Vulgarization of science” French people think it is the english translation of the french word vulgarisation scientifique http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgarisation It seems to be in the english dictionary

Re: [Pharo-dev] Visit/accept method naming philosophy

2014-11-08 Thread Ben Coman
Alain Rastoul wrote: Le 08/11/2014 13:19, Ben Coman a écrit : Thierry Goubier wrote: Hi Ben, 2014-11-08 7:28 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com: This is a general query and something I've wondered several times before in different situations, but I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Visit/accept method naming philosophy

2014-11-08 Thread Ben Coman
Alain Rastoul wrote: Le 08/11/2014 14:37, Ben Coman a écrit : Alain Rastoul wrote: Le 08/11/2014 13:19, Ben Coman a écrit : Thierry Goubier wrote: Hi Ben, 2014-11-08 7:28 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com: This is a general query and something I've

[Pharo-dev] OSWindow roadmap

2014-11-08 Thread Ben Coman
stepharo wrote in [Pharo-dev] Visit/accept method naming philosophy: ben pay attention that OSWindow needs a real polish phase. We logged some items to be fixed in the pharo roadmaps on github in Events.md Thanks for the reference. Actually it answers some questions I had. I had started to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Visit/accept method naming philosophy

2014-11-08 Thread Ben Coman
Alain Rastoul wrote: trying to be more concrete (and still not sure of pragma syntax and capabilities) I wonder if with methods in the image like: OSMorphicEventHandleraccept: aMouseEvent pragma: precondition parameter:aMouseEvent isKindOf: OSMorphicEvent OSXWindowEvenHandlertaccept:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 4.0] #40364

2014-11-10 Thread Ben Coman
40364 - 14422 AnnouncementSpy is not needed anymore: GTInspector has all the functionality https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14422 Is there a demonstration of this available somewhere? cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher for Windows

2014-11-14 Thread Ben Coman
Thierry Goubier wrote: 2014-11-14 9:57 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de mailto:nicolaih...@web.de: 2014-11-14 9:29 GMT+01:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Hi all, does anybody knows if the Pharo Launcher is

[Pharo-dev] VM fixes to review

2014-11-15 Thread Ben Coman
I notice several VM fixes [1] submitted by Nicolas 6 months ago. They are categorized as Milestone=Later, so I'm bumping them here just in case these slipped through the cracks to get them into Pharo 4. [1] https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?pgx=LFixFilter=36 But then I think I remember

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 0635d1: 40371

2014-11-16 Thread Ben Coman
GitHub wrote: Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 0635d15a291debc0717b5f2711d3832e1a77f2e6 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/0635d15a291debc0717b5f2711d3832e1a77f2e6 Author: Jenkins Build Server

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 0635d1: 40371

2014-11-16 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: On 16 Nov 2014, at 16:47, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 16 Nov 2014, at 16:31, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Log Message: --- 40371 14261 Delay refactoring (part 1)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 0635d1: 40371

2014-11-17 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: I can confirm those failing tests, in both slice.4 and slice.9, so strange they didn't show up in the Validator report. Now if its less work, you can revert to the original code by doing Delay newCodeEnabled: false, and both tests will pass. It late

Re: [Pharo-dev] About the Playground cache

2014-11-20 Thread Ben Coman
Tudor Girba wrote: How about creating just one cache file, and only add used/evaluated expressions to the cache? Why? What don't you want remembered? Cheers, Doru ZnEasy get: 'https://www.google.com.au/webhp?search=sex+worker+jobs' ;) ??

Re: [Pharo-dev] Float hierarchy for 64-bit Spur

2014-11-20 Thread Ben Coman
Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi All, 64-bit Spur can usefully provide an immediate float, a 61-bit subset of the ieee double precision float. I wonder if class SmallDouble would be more intention revealing? In practice 61 bits will be more than enough(tm) for anyone. But I can envisage in

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM fixes to review

2014-11-21 Thread Ben Coman
stepharo wrote: can you mark them as 4.0 Stef Le 16/11/14 01:52, Ben Coman a écrit : I notice several VM fixes [1] submitted by Nicolas 6 months ago. They are categorized as Milestone=Later, so I'm bumping them here just in case these slipped through the cracks to get them into Pharo 4

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM fixes to review

2014-11-21 Thread Ben Coman
. Sorry I didn't consider the Integrator app. -ben Stef Le 16/11/14 01:52, Ben Coman a écrit : I notice several VM fixes [1] submitted by Nicolas 6 months ago. They are categorized as Milestone=Later, so I'm bumping them here just in case these slipped through the cracks to get them into Pharo 4

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM fixes to review

2014-11-21 Thread Ben Coman
Ben Coman wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: On 21 Nov 2014, at 13:21, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: can you mark them as 4.0 The problem is that they now show up in the integrator app and the monkey will try to run them with a non-existing slice, failing them all. I checked they are all

Re: [Pharo-dev] Listening for shift key pressed

2014-11-21 Thread Ben Coman
Aliaksei Syrel wrote: Hi, Thanks for the fast answer. But keyDown or keyUp are triggered only for not modifier keys (Tab, space, [0-9a-Z]). When I press Shift, keyDown is not triggered. :( Cheers, Alex On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Listening for shift key pressed

2014-11-21 Thread Ben Coman
Aliaksei Syrel wrote: Hi, Nicolai Thanks for suggestion. I'm using Mac 10.10 and it doesn't show any notifications for shift.. I'll open an issue for this. Cheers, Alex I confirm this works in Windows, but not on OSX. cheers -ben On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Nicolai Hess

Re: [Pharo-dev] Listening for shift key pressed

2014-11-23 Thread Ben Coman
Aliaksei Syrel wrote: Hi, Nicolai Thanks for suggestion. I'm using Mac 10.10 and it doesn't show any notifications for shift.. I'll open an issue for this. Cheers, Alex Hi Alex, Did you open an issue? I can't find it. I've made some progress getting it working and would like to

Re: [Pharo-dev] editing the default window size of glamour inspector

2014-11-24 Thread Ben Coman
Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, Sorry for not replying earlier. Thanks Nicolai for picking this one up. I missed the initial mail. The initialExtent does not make sense for presentation, and anyway, you would not want to change an inspector when you are inside a flow. If I understand correctly,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Listening for shift key pressed

2014-11-24 Thread Ben Coman
Aliaksei Syrel wrote: Hi Ben, Thanks :) Here I opened issue https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14521/Pressing-shift-ctrl-command-options-capslock-doesn-t-trigger-corresponding-Event-on-Mac I didn't do it before, because Stef wrote, that it's somehow known bug and they will try to move to

Re: [Pharo-dev] contributing to Pharo testing effort

2014-11-24 Thread Ben Coman
sheri...@sheridan-mahoney.com wrote: Hi there, I am interested in helping out with writing tests in Pharo, and was wondering where would be a good place to start. I am familiar with Smalltalk from working at GemStone Systems in their QA department some years ago, but am somewhat new to

Re: [Pharo-dev] NativeBoost

2014-11-24 Thread Ben Coman
Esteban Lorenzano wrote: both are integrated into the image. while NB has been maintained directly, athens should still be loadable (if not the case… we have a problem for the future :P). yes, we are slowly moving in the opposite direction of “all maintained in the image”, and eventually we

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing MC repository url display

2014-11-25 Thread Ben Coman
Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Hi, So I have this problem… each time I open a MC browser I see something like this: And as you can see… most important part of the repositories (the NAME) is hidded because window is small. Of course, I can enlarge the screen to see the names, but that made me

[Pharo-dev] Pharo-4.0-Update-Step-3-Minimal versus MCWorkingCopyBrowser

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Coman
I am checking why the .10 slice for Issue-14261-Delay-refactoring-part-1 is breaking build of the Jenkins Pharo-4.0-Update-Step-3-Minimal. As an aside, I discovered opening (and closing) Monticello in the image prior to running shrink.st makes it fragile. With the scripts for build 40384

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stream instead of string concatenation

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Coman
Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: Hi everyone! There is a Lint rule that suggests to use stream instead of strings concatenation. What is the most common way, to create a string this way, because the only thing I can come up with is: String streamContents: [ :stream | stream

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo-4.0-Update-Step-3-Minimal versus MCWorkingCopyBrowser

2014-11-27 Thread Ben Coman
… Marcus On 26 Nov 2014, at 15:36, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: I am checking why the .10 slice for Issue-14261-Delay-refactoring-part-1 is breaking build of the Jenkins Pharo-4.0-Update-Step-3-Minimal. As an aside, I discovered opening (and closing) Monticello in the image

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem with input of localized characters by Michal

2014-11-28 Thread Ben Coman
This sounds like it was in the middle of a conversation offlist :) lb wrote: Hi??Michal I used Pharo 3 or 4 and happened to the similar problem, l found: (Pls notice the Bold Part) HandMorphgenerateKeyboardEvent: evtBuf Generate the appropriate mouse event for the given raw event buffer

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub bugs hangs :-(

2014-11-28 Thread Ben Coman
kilon alios wrote: I forgot to add that git comes with excellent gui clients that are far more powerful and elegant that what Pharo offers currently . We started late. We had tools reasonably suited for our needs which we were comfortable with. I think/hope that once libgit is released in

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compilation error of the PharoEnterprise book with luatex

2014-11-28 Thread Ben Coman
Luc Fabresse wrote: Hi All, I cannot compile the latest version in SquareBracketAssociates/EnterprisePharo.git My problem is that the FiraSans cannot be found. But in common.tex, the font path is correctly set up and the font is there. So on CI which version of luatex is used? I did not

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compilation error of the PharoEnterprise book with luatex

2014-11-28 Thread Ben Coman
kilon alios wrote: have you tried MacTex ? https://tug.org/mactex/ its what I use with my iMac and so far has been working for me without any issues. I also ended up using MaxTex fairly easily. (I can't remember which other one originally tried that had some issues.) cheers -ben On

[Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-11-28 Thread Ben Coman
Sometimes when I am hacking around the system, I use Monticello to review just what I've changed. In build 40390, I did a Changes of Glamour-Core (BernardoContreras.286) against Pharo40/main and got _lots_ of changes. Then it seems that this package is not in Pharo40/main. Should it be?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 8be654: 40392

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Coman
Log Message: --- 40392 14546 Failed inherited tests should show home class (in TestRunner, like the debugger) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14546 Thanks for this Nicolai. I only logged the idea yesterday, and here it is integrated overnight before I get home from

[Pharo-dev] 14353 Delay refactoring (part 2) - change from milliseconds to microseconds

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Coman
The change of Delay from milliseconds to microseconds is ready for human review. (https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14353) With this change from milliseconds to microseconds, clock rollover is eliminated, but it seems Delays run at reduced performance. newCodeEnabled FALSE TRUE

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-12-01 until: 2014-12-14

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Coman
seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! ### Here's what I've been up to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo - [ANN] SimpleDDS v1.0 released.

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Coman
Santiago Bragagnolo wrote: Hi guys, i am just releasing SimpleDDS. In order to connect into ROS world i had to implement a DDS support (Publisher/subscriber). For achieving this i did MetaDDS, a library that defines basic objects, announcements, event related mechanisms and data encoding

Re: [Pharo-dev] Scale in 3.0 (kind of ANN)

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Coman
p...@highoctane.be wrote: I've put Guille's Scale thing (http://guillep.github.io/blog/2014/01/23/replacing-bash-with-pharo/) into Pharo 3.0 Details on how to use here: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/Scale Enjoy, Phil We named the command we needed scale, because scales are

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-12-01 until: 2014-12-14

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Coman
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:00 AM, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr mailto:seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate

Re: [Pharo-dev] Scale in 3.0 (kind of ANN)

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Coman
p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name mailto:norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 02.12.2014 um 13:31 schrieb Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com: p...@highoctane.be mailto:p...@highoctane.be wrote

[Pharo-dev] 12854 TestRunnercategorySelected hard coded zero

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Coman
Anyone know why TestRunnercategorySelected was hard coded to return zero? It breaks shift-click multiple selection in TestRunner. Seems we've lived with it a long time... * Version info -- lr 10/31/2005 15:11 btw, SystemReportercategorySelected method is identical * Hardcoded to return zero

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Coman
p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com mailto:s...@clipperadams.com wrote: EstebanLM wrote is cool. I would like to explore the possibility to replace our command line parser with getopt. You know… is

[Pharo-dev] Monticello repository-browser not emphasizing packages with newer versions.

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Coman
Hi Torsten, I really like the icons you added to Monticello https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14451 however one thing I notice that seems lacking is indication of which packages have newer versions available. When clicking on a package on the left, on the right versions that are newer are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-12-03 Thread Ben Coman
kilon alios wrote: I dont disagree but when it comes to me making a tutorial about something then foremost I want to know exactly what I am talking about. So its pointless for me to talk about merges using filetree and gitfiletree unless I understand these specific topic inside out. I dont

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-03 Thread Ben Coman
Eliot Miranda wrote: [and apologies for being deliberately incendiary but I *hate* the movement away from tools in Squeak/Pharo. It is a movement towards stasis and death, and personally I'm enjoying life too much]. So what we need is a native Smalltalk git ;) Yes I know... more work with

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-03 Thread Ben Coman
Eliot Miranda wrote: One if these, which Ben Coman's recent changes above my 64-bit microsecond clock should have fixed is a spin loop of up to a second to synchronize the second and millisecond clocks. Is this in the image or VM ? I didn't notice this. I found these either by profiling

Re: [Pharo-dev] class variable slots?

2014-12-03 Thread Ben Coman
, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com mailto:tu...@tudorgirba.com mailto:tu...@tudorgirba.com mailto:tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote

Re: [Pharo-dev] failing test in writing files

2014-12-04 Thread Ben Coman
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: self assert: (file species isKindOf: FileStream) But that is a weird test. What is the point ? You have to test behaviour, like write a file and see if it was written. Testing types is very seldom done, because this is an implementation detail. Thanks Sheri and

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-04 Thread Ben Coman
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 04 Dec 2014, at 11:45, p...@highoctane.be wrote: But further than that I want to edit values in inspectors. Yes ! And auto refresh ! Both of these could be depending on presentation, so that heavy presentations can opt out. It would be good if there

Re: [Pharo-dev] Twittering Smalltalk

2014-12-04 Thread Ben Coman
Torsten Bergmann wrote: See attachement, Pharo is on the right track ;) Bye T. Nice. I really like this one... Choosing a language because it has cheaper developers is like building a house with Lego so you can hire anyone as a construction worker. Pharo might adopt that somewhere on

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Transition of Ubuntu PPA maintenance

2014-12-04 Thread Ben Coman
Markus Fritsche wrote: Hello, The maintenance of the Ubuntu Pharo VM and .source Packages is being transferred from Damien Cassou to myself, Markus Fritsche. By trade, I am a Business Intelligence consultant, but always following what's going on with smalltalk/ pharo. If you experience any

Re: [Pharo-dev] Woden and inspectors

2014-12-04 Thread Ben Coman
p...@highoctane.be wrote: I have been playing with Woden. That's a place where the GTInspector would be welcome to edit values.. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nze9tnwYxYfeature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nze9tnwYxYfeature=youtu.be Is there a way to have both the old

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-04 Thread Ben Coman
Thierry Goubier wrote: Hi all, I'm just wondering. Would it work to have a package format based on Fuel? Would that make loading faster? Does it already exist? Thanks, Thierry What is your use case for needing it faster? * Just every day developer use? * CI automation? * Something in

Re: [Pharo-dev] Semaphore seems to timeout prematurely

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
Jan Vrany wrote: Hi there, I have encountered a situation where semaphore timeouts prematurely when run in non-interactive mode (eval cmdline handler). Setup (script prepare.sh) 1) Fresh Pharo image (3.0 / 4.0, both exhibits the same behaviour) 2) Evaluate: == Smalltalk at: #WaitBlock

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
Thierry Goubier wrote: 2014-12-04 23:59 GMT+01:00 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com mailto:eliot.mira...@gmail.com: I'm also delighted that work like Chris Muller's version server is out there. This is very nicely integrated to allow me to find out which package versions

[Pharo-dev] RBSmalllintContextprimitiveComputerLiterals

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
I just noticed RBSmalllintContextprimitiveComputerLiterals doesn't seem to follow the typical pattern for that naming convention. Without digging to really understand it, I just wondered if it maybe should be called #computeLiteralsForPrimitive, or #basicComputerLiterals, or something else...

[Pharo-dev] Announcements inter-thread communication

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
_BACKGROUND_ In relation to... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13182 Refactor MCFileRepositoryInspector versionSearchAccept: I am reviewing... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13007 Cannot integrate a slice with monticello (red square in the UI) and in general considering how

[Pharo-dev] Spur Re: Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-07 Thread Ben Coman
Esteban Lorenzano wrote: yes, tests now are finishing without crash! https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/4.0-VM-Spur/job/Pharo-spur32-tests now that we are ready yet, but almost there :) Esteban Great to hear you are getting close. cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Code repository

2014-12-08 Thread Ben Coman
Benoit St-Jean wrote: Hi guys! Coming back to Pharo! I was wondering, what is the preferred code repository for Pharo 3.x/4.x packages? SqueakSource 3 or SmalltalkHub ? tia - Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean IRC:

[Pharo-dev] Slice Integrator Tool

2014-12-12 Thread Ben Coman
Could I get a look at the new slice Integrator tool ? I'd like to try pulling some bits into PharoLauncher to assist individuals to review resolved cases. cheers -ben

[Pharo-dev] 14616 Package Tags causing merge conflict

2014-12-12 Thread Ben Coman
There are a dozen tickets to rename test packages to conform with the standard patter, e.g. ShoutTests -- Shout-Tests. The META case is... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14447 The Merge of these slices seems to be failing, for example, due to the non-existant Shout-Tests being created

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trigger Jenkins from Fogbugz?

2014-12-17 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: On 16 Dec 2014, at 15:28, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: It seems the CI monkey polls Fogbugz for cases at 15 minute intervals. Now if I'm troubleshooting a submitted slice, it would be nice to have a quicker turnaround. Any chance Fogbugz could be configured

[Pharo-dev] 14615 Change in Delay semantics when high priority timer event loop stopped

2014-12-17 Thread Ben Coman
I'm looking for some community feedback on Case 14615. When the high priority Delay timer event loop is stopped, there are two basic choices: 1. Delays wait indefinitely, since their delaySemaphore is never signaled, and so for example, the UI locks up. 2. Delays are ignored, proceeding

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14615 Change in Delay semantics when high priority timer event loop stopped

2014-12-17 Thread Ben Coman
p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com mailto:b...@openinworld.com wrote: I'm looking for some community feedback on Case 14615. When the high priority Delay timer event loop is stopped, there are two basic choices: 1. Delays

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