[Pharo-dev] SessionErrorHandlingTest UI lockup

2019-07-13 Thread Ben Coman
In Pharo 80482 I am experiencing a UI lockup running... SessionErrorHandlingTest>>testErrorCaughtAndDefferedIfExceptionSignaledAtStartupWhenStartupUiManagerActive Can anyone else confirm? cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] "whenSelectedItemChanged:" in Spec

2019-07-16 Thread Ben Coman
Following on from something I noticed commenting on "[Pharo-users] "whenSelectedItemChanged:" in Spec"... On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 08:38, Ben Coman wrote: > Looking at ListPresenter>>whenSelectedItemChanged: aBlock > it is registering aBlock on selectionHolder u

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo process scheduling

2019-07-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 17:40, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm trying to get a better grip on process scheduling in Pharo but > don't understand the behaviour I'm seeing. > > My understanding is that the VM (which does the real work of > scheduling the processes) is a pre-emptive co-o

[Pharo-dev] Breakpoint restart error

2019-08-04 Thread Ben Coman
I trying to set a breakpoint programatically so that users can be dropped into the custom script they can add to a system. I try... Object compile: 'myTest |a b c| a := 1. b := 2. c := 3'. Breakpoint new node: (Object>>#myTest) ast; install. Object new myTest. "click " but the follo

[Pharo-dev] possible Windows Update "1903" Iceberg problem

2019-08-16 Thread Ben Coman
IThis morning the May 2019 Windows Update "1903" forced itself onto my computer and now 64-bits Pharo seems to have a problem with git_remote_fetch() FFI callout. I no longer have a non-1903 machine to directly compare behaviour before "1903". Can someone familiar with this area with both "pre-19

Re: [Pharo-dev] possible Windows Update "1903" Iceberg problem

2019-08-17 Thread Ben Coman
gt; > Stef > > On 16 Aug 2019, at 16:02, Ben Coman wrote: > > IThis morning the May 2019 Windows Update "1903" forced itself onto my > computer and now 64-bits Pharo seems to have a problem with > git_remote_fetch() FFI callout. I no longer have a non-1903 machine

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] SequenceableCollection>>#allButFirst: inconsistence across subclasses

2019-08-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 15:34, Julien wrote: > Hello, > > I opened that issue: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/4442 > > And I think to fix it we need to actually discuss about what we want. > > #allButFirst: behaves differently depending on the actual type of > sequenceable collectio

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Headless - Beta (Actually what is between Alpha and Beta)

2019-09-04 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 17:59, teso...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, >the repos is https://github.com/pharo-project/opensmalltalk-vm in > the headless branch > btw, to go directly to that branch... https://github.com/pharo-project/opensmalltalk-vm/tree/headless I'm really glad to see smalltalksrc o

Re: [Pharo-dev] Allow selected special characters as part of unary and keyword selectors?

2019-09-13 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 15:10, ducasse wrote: > > > > On 11 Sep 2019, at 04:07, James Foster wrote: > > > > Would use of ? and ! in unary/keyword selectors be convention or somehow > required? If simply convention, then we should start with renaming testing > methods to be named is* or has*. > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pumping FFI documentation [WAS] FFI beginner question

2019-09-25 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 13:51, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi > > Normally each time a PR is integrated in a book, the CI is generating the > PDF. > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/Booklet-uFFI/releases > > So what you can do is to not bother and copy-edit and we fix the > corresponding p

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot extract stable VM on Window

2019-09-29 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 02:41, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > Le 29/09/2019 à 16:35, Brainstorms a écrit : > > Hi Cyril, > > > > I downloaded it and tried it on Win7 Pro 64bit (running in Virtualbox), > and > > was able to open as expected. > > > > However, looking in the zip file itself, I noticed ab

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Roadmap progress report. September 2019

2019-10-08 Thread Ben Coman
Nice list. Thx for posting. cheers -ben On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 22:03, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > Hi all, > > Since some time we wanted to start with this report to keep you all > informed on what we are doing to achieve our goals for the release. > After ESUG we took some time to organise and w

Re: [Pharo-dev] PLZ fix it for Pharo8...

2019-10-29 Thread Ben Coman
Casimiro, I tested your change and it works well. btw, for such a simple change, you don't even need to connect your Pharo image to github. Just fork the repo and make your edit directly with github's text editor at your equal location location to this... https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blo

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Debugging GCC code generation

2019-12-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 04:03, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Pablo, > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:33 AM teso...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> thanks for the comment, you are right the problem is the bad >> original code. But my opinion is that it just is not reporting the >> situation c

[Pharo-dev] Trait subclassResponsibility

2019-12-14 Thread Ben Coman
#Background I got a critique... Replaces "a >= b and: [a <= c]" by "a between: b and: c. for my code... (location >= (1@1) and: [location <= (self size @ self size)]) To test, I tried... (2@2) between: (1@1) and: (5@5) but got... Instance of Point did not understand #between:and: which it seems r

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Mm10s] 2019-12-16

2019-12-17 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 16:22, teso...@gmail.com wrote: > My report, some are the same than Esteban, as we work a lot together :D > > ### Last week: > > - (Pair Programming with Esteban) Modifying the TFFI callbacks to > include information about the Smalltalk block in the plugin data > structure.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] TaskIt

2019-12-17 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 18:41, Santiago Bragagnolo < santiagobragagn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody! >We are starting to discuss with norbert about letting taskit to leave > my incubator (my github account to go elsewhere). I have being thinking > about it since long time, since i would li

[Pharo-dev] Spec row height for list of custom widgets

2019-12-26 Thread Ben Coman
I'm trying to adapt this example from the Spec booklet... ListPresenter new displayBlock: [ :x | x buildWithSpec ]; items: ('Files' asPackage classes collect: [:cls | ButtonPresenter new icon: cls systemIcon; label: cls name]); openWithSpec to use my own presenter rather

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec row height for list of custom widgets

2019-12-26 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 09:17, Ben Coman wrote: > I'm trying to adapt this example from the Spec booklet... > > ListPresenter new > displayBlock: [ :x | x buildWithSpec ]; > items: ('Files' asPackage classes > collect: [:cls | ButtonPrese

Re: [Pharo-dev] Happy new year!

2019-12-31 Thread Ben Coman
Its an hour into the new year in Western Australia. Thank you everyone that has contributed to and supported Pharo over the past year and really excited about the progression of the headless VM. Looking forward to great Pharo year in 2020. cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sysmel, another experimental low-level language implemented in Pharo

2020-01-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 12:00, Ronie Salgado wrote: > Hi All, > > I am finally announcing an initial release of my new experimental > low-level programming language which I am calling Sysmel (For SYStem > MEtaprogramming Language). > > GitHub Page: https://github.com/ronsaldo/sysmel > Short native

Re: [Pharo-dev] about signal

2020-01-10 Thread Ben Coman
For greater visibility and comprehension, it might be useful to early in the manual define a utility method... Object>>crTracePriority self crTrace: '[', Processor activePriority printString, ']', self printString On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 13:13, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020

Re: [Pharo-dev] about signal

2020-01-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 06:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Great approach, though I would make one change to make your example > completely copy/paste runnable. > > Stef's original example: > > | trace semaphore p1 p2 | > > semaphore := Semaphore new. > > trace := [ :message | >

Re: [Pharo-dev] about signal

2020-01-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 18:01, ducasse wrote: > > > On 11 Jan 2020, at 10:50, Ben Coman wrote: > > > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 06:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> Great approach, though I would make one change to make your

Re: [Pharo-dev] about signal

2020-01-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 20:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi Alistair, > > > On 12 Jan 2020, at 09:33, Alistair Grant wrote: > > > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 13:01, ducasse wrote: > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> I wanted to explain > >> > >> | semaphore p1 p2 | > >> semaphore := Semaphore new. > >> p1 :

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Embedding Image Example (Win)

2020-01-13 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks Pablo. This will be cool to try sometime, and likely useful if I want to distribute an app. Now what woudl be great is an example something like embedding the VM within a simple REPL written in C. or something like a simple Pong game where the main loop is in C and does the rendering, but

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg Bug? Branches with $/

2020-01-13 Thread Ben Coman
Even from the command line I find slashes in branch names problematic, because slashes are as a "remote/branch" separator incites confusion about what is being referenced. Other have different problems... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/273695/what-are-some-examples-of-commonly-used-practices

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg Bug? Branches with $/

2020-01-14 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 21:26, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Ben Coman wrote > > I find slashes in branch names problematic > > Okay, you've convinced me. How do we guide people toward that policy? > A warning when creating such branches? That sounds reasonable. Perha

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo Quality Rules for Beginners

2020-01-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 17:41, ESTEBAN VILLALOBOS DIAZ via Pharo-users wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > My name is Esteban and I will be working on the Pharo Quality Rules for the > next few months. The goal is to create different profiles for the rules > according to the programming experience of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who is using Pharo Launcher and for what

2016-02-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > With PharoLauncher it took me about 5 minutes, > just long enough to wonder if I should automate this > further, and just short enough to not bother. Two useful references to consider... https://xkcd.com/1205/ https://xkcd.com/1319/ ch

[Pharo-dev] Code Combat

2016-02-29 Thread Ben Coman
I was talking to my kids' primary school about teaching them programming, and one of the systems they are planning to use is Code Combat. It "teaches" programming by posing puzzles in an arcade adventure game setting. Both(only) Python and Javascript are catered for, but I notice its MIT licensed

Re: [Pharo-dev] Code Combat

2016-02-29 Thread Ben Coman
way. cheers -ben > Because this is not what I want to teach. > > Stef > > Le 29/2/16 18:11, Ben Coman a écrit : > >> I was talking to my kids' primary school about teaching them >> programming, and one of the systems they are planning to use is Code >> Comba

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Contributors & Consultants

2016-03-02 Thread Ben Coman
Cool. Now wishful thinking... for consultants it would be double-cool be have a location marked world map which could be clicked to sort the list based on how close to the click the consultant lives. cheers -ben On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi all, > > we are currently up

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Contributors & Consultants

2016-03-02 Thread Ben Coman
Also, maybe add "Pharo" to the contributors default web site google search. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > Cool. Now wishful thinking... for consultants it would be double-cool > be have a location marked world map which could be clicked to sort the >

Re: [Pharo-dev] sprites for games

2016-03-02 Thread Ben Coman
hey wow! who'd a thought such a thing existed. cheers -ben On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:33 PM, stepharo wrote: > Hi > > clement shows me this website > > http://gaurav.munjal.us/Universal-LPC-Spritesheet-Character-Generator/ > > and we could use them for building a fun game framework > > > Stef > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call about Numerical Methods in Pharo :)

2016-03-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Nicolas Cellier > wrote: >> >> 2016-03-04 19:51 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel : >>> >>> I personally never liked the name “SciSmalltalk”. “SciPharo” is much >>> better in my opinion >>> PhaNum is also okay to m

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call about Numerical Methods in Pharo :)

2016-03-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Ben Coman wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Serge Stinckwich >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Nicolas Cellier >>> wrote: >>>> >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call about Numerical Methods in Pharo :)

2016-03-05 Thread Ben Coman
But "abacus" --> 18,000,000 results, is not goognique. Maybe a variation "abacii" --> 2,800 results, as in "more than one calculating tool". cheers -ben >> >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Ben Coman wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 5,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call about Numerical Methods in Pharo :)

2016-03-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Serge Stinckwich > wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Ben Coman wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Serge Stinckwich >>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 20

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Little how to

2016-03-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 11:14 PM, stepharo wrote: > I would love one example fetch something using Zinc and check the network > status. > I remember once I played with Pop and I wa sfetching mails one by one :) This could be a good one. Occasionally when I'm troubleshooting email problems I resor

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call about Numerical Methods in Pharo :)

2016-03-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:10 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 05 Mar 2016, at 18:22, Eliot Miranda wrote: >> >> Stef, >> >> On Mar 5, 2016, at 12:10 AM, stepharo wrote: >> >>> You probably leave in a protected environment but I do not live in the same. >>> Did you check numPy recently or

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Bloc] content vs contents

2016-03-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:20 PM, stepharo wrote: > Hi native english speaker > > what is the best content or contents? Actually I couldn't say off hand. It depends on the context and I can't think of a specific rule. I can only present a few examples. The contents of the box. The content of the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Bloc] content vs contents

2016-03-06 Thread Ben Coman
the majority of implementors use contents over > content like that > I have a smaller probability of mistakes. > > Stef > > Le 6/3/16 12:03, Ben Coman a écrit : > >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:20 PM, stepharo wrote: >>> >>> Hi native english speaker >&

[Pharo-dev] Call about Numerical Methods in Pharo :)

2016-03-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 05 Mar 2016, at 19:57, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:10 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>>> On 05 Mar 2016, at 18:22, Eliot Miranda wrote: >>>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Comparison of actual and expected Delay length on small durations

2016-03-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > Hi > > At some point I got a feeling that actual Delay time is longer than > expected. It is especially visible on small delays less than 100ms > (otherwise difference is < 1%). > > [image: Inline image 1] > Documentation says that *Delay w

Re: [Pharo-dev] Comparison of actual and expected Delay length on small durations

2016-03-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Aliaksei Syrel > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> At some point I got a feeling that actual Delay time is longer than >> expected. It is especially visible on small delays less

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading an image crashes the VM

2016-03-14 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Jan Kurš wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to open an image I saved a few days ago and I am getting this > message (the whole log is attached): > > stack page bytes 4096 available headroom 2788 minimum unused headroom 3020 > > (Segmentation fault) > > Anyone experiencin

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dbba45: 50646

2016-03-18 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano > wrote: >> On 16 Mar 2016, at 13:28, GitHub wrote: >> >> 17797 random crash while trying to dispose a NULL handle >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17797 &

Re: [Pharo-dev] Changes Browser is broken

2016-03-19 Thread Ben Coman
I hadn't used Recover Changes for a while, but recently found that it had lost a lot of power. Particularly not being able to filter to show only the most recent updates. Its tedious to manually search for the latest version of several methods. cheers -ben On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Peter

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dbba45: 50646

2016-03-19 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > On 16 Mar 2016, at 13:28, GitHub wrote: > > 17797 random crash while trying to dispose a NULL handle > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17797 > > > > again, this is an attempt against the "Font crashing VM” bug… please I need > all repo

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] dbba45: 50646

2016-03-20 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > On 16 Mar 2016, at 13:28, GitHub wrote: > > 17797 random crash while trying to dispose a NULL handle > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17797 > > again, this is an attempt against the "Font crashing VM” bug… please I need > all reports

Re: [Pharo-dev] Naming question for new version of Mocketry

2016-03-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2016-03-23 11:02 GMT+01:00 Max Leske : >> >> But from English it not sounds like it should be occurred in past. Normally thats my cue ;) but I don't have any great ideas. >> So what correct and not long sentence can be used here? maybe

Re: [Pharo-dev] Naming question for new version of Mocketry

2016-03-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2016-03-23 12:38 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : >> >> Maybe... >>[ mock someMessage. mock2 somMessage2 ] shouldve beenSent >> >> but maybe you don't want different #shouldXXX messages. > > &

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catching Exceptions without any notice

2016-04-02 Thread Ben Coman
All forms of learning involve some degree criticism, and sometimes we learn the most from the hardest task masters. We all want a positive community, but we need to not fall into the trap of... "hacker forums where, out of some misguided sense of hyper-courtesy, participants are banned from postin

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ bloc ] I do not understand why some behavior is not in the right place

2016-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > Some more bashing today.. (don't take it personal, i may be wrong) > > BlPath hierarchy.. and BlShape. > > Why you redefining what is shape and what is path? > Of course, you are free to do it in Bloc.. > But in terms of Athens, all of BlPat

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText model

2016-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > On 4 April 2016 at 16:32, Thierry Goubier wrote: >> >> >> >> 2016-04-04 15:23 GMT+02:00 Igor Stasenko : >>> >>> >>> Analogies don't work. Right :) I never used Pillar and have remote ideas >>> about what it does or requires. From tha

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ bloc ] I do not understand why some behavior is not in the right place

2016-04-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > That explains, why, there initially certain features of Cairo, that not > exposed by Athens. > It is not because we can't or just don't care.. we do.. But only after we > can see that it consistent with rest of API and can be easily implemente

Re: [Pharo-dev] canc/del closes windows

2016-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-dev wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Davide Varvello > To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org > Cc: > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 01:29:21 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: canc/del closes windows > Hi Guys, > Is it only me that sometime

Re: [Pharo-dev] canc/del closes windows

2016-04-07 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-dev wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Davide Varvello > To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org > Cc: > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 05:24:04 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: canc/del closes windows > Hi Ben, > > With "it disappears" I

Re: [Pharo-dev] new pharo cheatsheet

2016-04-08 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Damien Pollet wrote: > On 8 April 2016 at 22:57, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >> Since we are simpler and more logical, a cheat sheet should not confuse >> people by describing what we are not. > > > I beg to disagree. "Simpler and more logical" is just your bia

Re: [Pharo-dev] new pharo cheatsheet

2016-04-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 3:56 AM, stepharo wrote: > new cheatsheet for Pharo syntax. > Any feedback is welcome So I really went to town and picked the eyes out of it... > #(abc 123) > literal array with the symbol #abc and the number 123 This one surprised me. I had to test it to check it was tru

Re: [Pharo-dev] new pharo cheatsheet

2016-04-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 3:52 PM, olivier auverlot wrote: > I think that it could be interesting to use it also on a simple HTML page > for the Pharo web site. This document can be put in the main menu > ("Beginners" ?) just before "Documentation". > > It's really cool to have a synthesis document

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo -spur - vm source

2016-04-17 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > Is https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm the place to look > for the current pharo spur vm source ? > I load the master and build a vm but it isn't a spur vm. > I only saw two other branches, legacy-cog and spur64. Where is the > source f

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] GTDebugger shortcuts usability

2016-04-17 Thread Ben Coman
Interesting. A search turned up... Quick Tip Debugger Shortcut Key Reference http://www.mularien.com/blog/category/eclipse/ cheers -ben On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 11:15 PM, philippe.b...@highoctane.be wrote: > Most of the world IDE use function keys for debugging. > > Additional benefit: easier for

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] RefsHunter

2016-04-19 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > 2016-04-19 15:53 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : >> >> Hi Pavel, >> >> This would have helped us to track that evil object years ago (remember >> the name???) hahaha. > > > Dzindzik :-) > >> >> Anyway, do you think it's worth an integ

Re: [Pharo-dev] Class allSubInstances size takes 23 seconds to run on Pharo 5 on OS X

2016-04-20 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > And here other interesting results: > > Class allSubInstances size. > "5636" * 2 = 11272 > Object allSubclasses size > "11267" > > What they are not almost equal? Strange that its out by a factor of two. Its almost like each class is a

Re: [Pharo-dev] What the state of unifying Beacon with SystemLogger?

2016-04-20 Thread Ben Coman
Sorry for not having a better reviewed understanding of both frameworks, but I have some thoughts from perspective of one user... On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi. > > Thank's for answers. > > 2016-04-20 10:53 GMT+02:00 Norbert Hartl : >> >> Agreed. As I said above.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo 5] Symbol #'distance_2pts' not accepted at package installation

2016-04-24 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 24-04-16 21:35, stepharo wrote: >> >> >> >> Le 24/4/16 à 12:10, Hilaire a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Nicolai, >>> >>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~HilaireFernandes/DrGeo >>> >>> You can't use the installation procedure described in the wiki, be

Re: [Pharo-dev] [HELP WANTED] Getting ready for Pharo 5.0 release (CentOS, oldLibC, Nix, ArchLinux, and others)

2016-05-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:12 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > Hi Esteban, > I tried again and it doesn't work. :( > But now i found another issue, if you take a look to pharo5.0/shared > folder you will see the file PharoV40.sources (wrong version for this > release) This is the c

Re: [Pharo-dev] [HELP WANTED] Getting ready for Pharo 5.0 release (CentOS, oldLibC, Nix, ArchLinux, and others)

2016-05-05 Thread Ben Coman
are right > please take a look at http://files.pharo.org/sources/, there's a > PharoV50.sources. >And also if you try to open a Pharo5.0.image , it will ask for the file > PharoV50.sources. > > thanks > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Ben Coman wrote: >> >>

[Pharo-dev] PharoVM-spur32 test newVMTestImage --> Pharo 2.0 ??

2016-05-17 Thread Ben Coman
In the PharoVM-spur32 CI build, newVMTestImage.sh [1] doesn't seem current? > wget http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-test-image-20.zip 1>&2 > unzip vm-test-image-20.zip -d vm-test-image 1>&2 > > wget http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV20.sources > --output-document=vm-test-image/PharoV20.sources

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem with delay waiting (OSSubprocess code) on Pharo 5.0

2016-05-18 Thread Ben Coman
I don't have time to look at this properly until tomorrow. In the meantime, could you just post the result of... Delay delaySchedulerClass it should be "DelayExperimentalSpinScheduler" *** Also could you try a few of the other options from World > System > Settings > System ... ***whoops,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Random is not random at startup

2016-05-18 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi, > > (cc-ing Robert Withers as he seems to be working with cryptography and > security... as this seems related and may have some implications, but I am > likely wrong about the implications) > > yesterday I've encountered a very surprising

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem with delay waiting (OSSubprocess code) on Pharo 5.0

2016-05-18 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Martin McClure wrote: > On 05/18/2016 03:17 PM, Martin McClure wrote: >> >> On 05/18/2016 08:49 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I am seeing a problem in Pharo 5.0 regarding Delay >> wait. I cannot >>> explain how this could happened but it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem with delay waiting (OSSubprocess code) on Pharo 5.0

2016-05-20 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Ben, for the record, I am using DelayMillisecondScheduler for a day and a > half and so far no problem. Cool. Thats why I left it there. I hope to soon have something for you to try with the newer design. Thanks for the update. che

Re: [Pharo-dev] cleaning the Pharo Catalog

2016-05-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque wrote: > > > On 23/05/2016 10:00, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >> Split into two categories? Those with full descriptions likely to load >> and those probably needing some updates? >> > > I like this option. Two tabs. A tab "PharoX" and a tab "

Re: [Pharo-dev] lineConversion for WriteStream

2016-05-26 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 26 May 2016, at 20:20, Peter Uhnák wrote: >> >> Well I was saving e.g. STON or XML file… but some apps outside didn't >> particularly like it… even `cat` doesn't like CR. > > Well, STONWriter, NeoJSONWriter and NeoCSVWriter al

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] d2bfc7: 60040

2016-05-27 Thread Ben Coman
Epic! I look forward to trying it out. cheers -ben On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Max Leske wrote: > This is the Video from ESUG 2014 where Martin Dias presented Epicea first: > https://youtu.be/Wr1IenGfT0I?t=9m20s > > Cheers, > Max > > On 27 May 2016, at 14:06, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > > > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: How to run Mondrian code

2016-05-31 Thread Ben Coman
[cross-post to pharo-dev] On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > No this is not buggy, I'm using this version on mac os x also. > This is still is still a beta version of MOOSE 6.0, but the stable > version should be release in a couple of days normally. > > You have to downlo

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: How to run Mondrian code

2016-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
n Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> In a 3.0 image it can be found under #downloadSources >>> >>> Yes it did it silently, the thing is, you do not always have a UI (headless >>> image). Many applications download extra files the first time they start up. >>> &g

[Pharo-dev] moldable debugger challenge - iterator position

2016-06-05 Thread Ben Coman
A bit of a pie in the sky idea, but I am currently tracing through code like this... XMLDOMVisitor >> visitDocument: theDocument theDocument nodes do: [ :each | each accept: self ] and its hard to get a feel for where "each" is in theDocument. I wonder if it would even be possi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Another look at the [First Impression Count] in Pharo 5

2016-06-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Documentation always help :) > > What information will be helpful ? > I understand now your intend: you want to encourage people to discover > the Spot settings and how to write your own search plugin, so you expose > the source code plugin in the s

Re: [Pharo-dev] moldable debugger challenge - iterator position

2016-06-05 Thread Ben Coman
I can create a basic skeleton of the debugger and then we can iterate. > > Cheers, > Andrei > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> A bit of a pie in the sky idea, but >> I am currently tracing through code like this... >&

[Pharo-dev] atomicity of non-local returns

2016-06-06 Thread Ben Coman
I understand generally that an inlined #ifTrue is atomic. For example, here after the primitive returns, no interruption can occur before the #ensure is invoked... self primitiveWaitAcquire ifTrue: [mutuallyExclusiveBlock ensure: [self release]]. But I want to know whether a non-

Re: [Pharo-dev] atomicity of non-local returns

2016-06-06 Thread Ben Coman
ps bytecodes 45 to 47 6. At 48 send #ensure:. versus #ifTrue: bytecocde... 1. At 29, push the temp 2. skip closureNumCopied bytes 36 to 38" 3. skip closureNumCopied: bytes 43 to 45" 4. At 46, send #ensure: So its clear (IIUC) that with #IfTrue: the #ensure is the fir

Re: [Pharo-dev] atomicity of non-local returns

2016-06-06 Thread Ben Coman
ded a few changes to split Context back to its earlier components). While learning the simulator it was the path of least resistance using the supplied scripts to build the reader image, and I hadn't swapped to simulating a Pharo image yet. cheers -ben > > Cheers > > On Mon, Jun

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and text evaluation printing result default.

2016-06-07 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:09 PM, stepharo wrote: > > > Le 5/6/16 à 23:00, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> >> Hi Stef, >> >> The quotes appear only when you add the result in the playground. > > > No need to explain I'm not idiot and I know it. >> >> The typical use case for this is to keep track of severa

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and text evaluation printing result default.

2016-06-07 Thread Ben Coman
the inside). >> >> All this makes sense for literal programming (assuming that is what you are >> after). >> >> What is the use case for not doing it like that ? Why do you want the >> comments gone ? >> >>> On 07 Jun 2016, at 13:03, Ben Coman wrot

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and text evaluation printing result default.

2016-06-08 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > >> On Jun 8, 2016, at 2:04 AM, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 5:39 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> Hi Sven, >>> >>> If I understand correctly, Stef talks about the case of bui

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > 2016-06-08 19:40 GMT+02:00 stepharo : >> >> ***THANKS*** Pavel. >> >> Yes it is the best way to make sure that nobody wants to work at this >> level. We discussed this problem during the last board meeting. This is why >> I proposed the f

[Pharo-dev] System Browser UX analysis - double key shortcuts

2016-06-09 Thread Ben Coman
I happened to be back using a Squeak image to run the VM simulator and wanted to report my experience that it was a *joy* to again be able to use to delete methods from the System Browser. Over the past >12 months rather than complain about the double-key shortcuts, I've given myself time to adap

Re: [Pharo-dev] System Browser UX analysis - double key shortcuts

2016-06-10 Thread Ben Coman
> Le 10/6/16 à 03:33, Ben Coman a écrit : > >> I happened to be back using a Squeak image to run the VM simulator and >> wanted to report my experience that it was a *joy* to again be able to >> use to delete methods from the System Browser. Over the past >>> &

Re: [Pharo-dev] Privacy sendDiagnosticsAndUsageData should be ternary, not binary

2016-06-10 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:37 PM, stepharo wrote: > > Andrei for the shortcut reporter we put a number of show. Like that the user > will be reminder a number >> >> of times and the system will get calm. May be you could do the same > > > In a new image the message to send usage data is shown only

Re: [Pharo-dev] spotter usage - a rough analysis of categories

2016-06-10 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 10 Jun 2016, at 09:47, Guille Polito wrote: >> >> I use spotter a lot as well. > > Me too ! > >> It is actually my default entry point to the system. It superseeded the >> searches in Nautilus, and most of the searches that I

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > >> On 11 Jun 2016, at 08:53, Alistair Grant wrote: >> >> Hi Esteban, >> >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 02:52:46PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was doing a pass on the catalog??? I think is very negative that >>> n

Re: [Pharo-dev] Unambiguously differentiating official and local builds [Was [Vm-dev] Moving the Cog subversion repository to githup at 2016-6-16 7am UTC]

2016-06-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Alistair, > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Alistair Grant > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:07:23PM -0700, Eliot Miranda wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > so after fixing "git remote get-url origin" to fail over to "git remote >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Unambiguously differentiating official and local builds [Was [Vm-dev] Moving the Cog subversion repository to githup at 2016-6-16 7am UTC]

2016-06-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Damien Pollet wrote: > > On 17 June 2016 at 00:08, Eliot Miranda wrote: >> >> What I don't understand is how, or indeed why, one stages modified files. >> I get that adding files requires informing git. But why doesn't "git >> commit" commit modified files by def

Re: [Pharo-dev] Unambiguously differentiating official and local builds [Was [Vm-dev] Moving the Cog subversion repository to githup at 2016-6-16 7am UTC]

2016-06-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Damien Pollet > wrote: >> >> On 17 June 2016 at 00:08, Eliot Miranda wrote: >>> >>> What I don't understand is how, or indeed why, one stages modified files. >>&

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

2016-06-18 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > >> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Henrik Johansen >> wrote: >> >> #alt_meta ? >> - Maps to alt on OSX, ctrl on Win/Linux. >> - Can only bind either #meta or #alt_meta + key, or both must bind to same >> action. >> - Can only be applie

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 5 segfault (stack size?) [FreeBSD]

2016-06-18 Thread Ben Coman
Try 50760 from... http://files.pharo.org/image/50/ cheers -ben On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Petr Fischer wrote: > VM version (from https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/): > > 5.0 #1 Sun Jan 17 14:19:14 CET 2016 gcc 4.7.2 [Production Spur ITHB VM] > CoInterpreter VMMaker

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