Re: [plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Jasper Jugan
how about a building your own distribution 101? On Apr 9, 2005 2:05 PM, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > One topic I'd like to hear about in the PhilOSC is how local internet > > cafes can use or have been using source apps (Mozilla Firefox come

[plug] Re: bittorrent in dialup

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you use bittorrent often? How often? What is your average dialup d/u speed? Not really often, but as needed. Maybe during the weekends, or when I've `dselect install'-ed enough apps to satisfy my update chase, and I still have some spare time connected.

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One topic I'd like to hear about in the PhilOSC is how local internet > cafes can use or have been using source apps (Mozilla Firefox comes to > mind). This one's hot! Especially on how to deploy Linux on such settings, as well as cafà management using FOSS

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm all up for this. AFAIK, most CS/IT students outside of the major > schools don't have even the slightest notion of FOSS or the career > opportunities in FOSS. Heck, not a lot of students who know about > Linux are willing to learn it just because they th

Re: [plug] Re: [plug-misc] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
OT: I think the thought of girls lurking around this kind of lists turns on h* men. Not that it is in the rules of the list, but I am personally disgusted by h* men who email me *privately* (you know who you are) and appears to offer help. Why not just ask straight for S*, which is sexy and ethical

Re: [plug] Students' Conference (was Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-08 Thread JM Ibanez
On Apr 8, 2005 8:53 PM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 9, 2005 2:11 AM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You mean like possible career opportunities in an open source > > environment? That would be great and truly inspiring for students. I > > believe the conferenc

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread JM Ibanez
On Apr 7, 2005 7:45 PM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What topics would you like to see in a talk? What activities would you > like to have? What companies' products do you want exhibited? (And > what do you want to do with them - I know you want to hack on them of > course...) The t

Re: [plug] Re: [plug-misc] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread JM Ibanez
On Apr 8, 2005 11:11 AM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean like possible career opportunities in an open source > environment? That would be great and truly inspiring for students. I > believe the conference must give emphasis to students because they are > the future of open so

Re: [plug] Re: bittorrent in dialup

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
Do you use bittorrent often? How often? What is your average dialup d/u speed? On Apr 8, 2005 11:50 PM, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > How about the seeding method? Do you think the speed at which dialup > > uploads can already be considered le

[plug] Students' Conference (was Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 9, 2005 2:11 AM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean like possible career opportunities in an open source > environment? That would be great and truly inspiring for students. I > believe the conference must give emphasis to students because they are > the future of open sou

[plug] Re: bittorrent in dialup

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How about the seeding method? Do you think the speed at which dialup > uploads can already be considered leeching? I usually set my btdownloadheadless command line with `--max_upload_rate 5 --max_uploads 2' switches to minimize leeching and encourage dowload

Re: [plug] Re: bittorrent in dialup

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
How about the seeding method? Do you think the speed at which dialup uploads can already be considered leeching? On Apr 8, 2005 11:08 PM, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I would like to ask PLUG members about the disadvantages of using > > bitto

[plug] Re: bittorrent in dialup

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to ask PLUG members about the disadvantages of using > bittorrent over a dialup connection. Long wait times! And if you're on prepaid internet cards, you'd better stock up three or more worth 20 h tops. I once downloaded a full set of ebooks wor

[plug] Re: Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Dong Calmada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > With 'sudo apt-get update', you're not downloading the updates yet. It's > just updating the /var/lib/dpkg/available file, to which 'sudo apt-get > dist-upgrade' refers in downloading and installing the updates. This is why a `sudo dselect' or even a `

[plug] bittorrent in dialup

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
I would like to ask PLUG members about the disadvantages of using bittorrent over a dialup connection. -- Shae -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Very nice idea! The last time I heard, fee's too expensive for > students! And no publicity in universities. Especially for out-of-schoolers like me ;P I almost wasn't able to attend last year's if I hadn't really worked hard on my tutoring to kids... -- Z

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You mean like possible career opportunities in an open source > environment? That would be great and truly inspiring for students. I > believe the conference must give emphasis to students because they are > the future of open source (successful or not

Re: [plug] Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread Dong Calmada
On Apr 9, 2005 9:16 AM, AC Perdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Apr 8, 2005 4:07 PM, Ian Dexter R. Marquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On 2005-04-08 15:58, Miguel A Paraz wrote:> > On Apr 8, 2005 3:53 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >>Fresh from the #ubuntu-devel channel a few min

Re: [plug] Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread AC Perdon
On Apr 8, 2005 4:07 PM, Ian Dexter R. Marquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2005-04-08 15:58, Miguel A Paraz wrote: > > On Apr 8, 2005 3:53 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Fresh from the #ubuntu-devel channel a few minutes ago: > >> > >>http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubun

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-08 Thread AC Perdon
If you have 3-5 pc sharing a dialup connection, i think it nice to have squid configure, so for frequently browse site would be fast to access. but when it comes to interactive, like replaying to mails, it will still depend on the speed that your dialup give you plus your line connection. i treid i

Re: [plug] Re: [plug-misc] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
Very nice idea! The last time I heard, fee's too expensive for students! And no publicity in universities. On Apr 8, 2005 2:11 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean like possible career opportunities in an open source > environment? That would be great and truly inspiring for s

Re: [plug] Re: [plug-misc] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Jerome Gotangco
You mean like possible career opportunities in an open source environment? That would be great and truly inspiring for students. I believe the conference must give emphasis to students because they are the future of open source (successful or not) in this country. The speakers must be able to give

Re: [plug] Re: GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Eduardo Tongson
> > > Mem:516036k total, 512348k used, 3688k free, 183688k buffers > > > Swap: 1060248k total, 916k used, 1059332k free,98500k cached > > I don't understand this part. If my memory is not fully utilized, why > eat a part of the swap? I thought swap is only utilized when no >

Re: [plug] Re: GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
Thanks, Zak! Shae On Apr 8, 2005 12:48 PM, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't understand this part. If my memory is not fully utilized, why > > eat a part of the swap? I thought swap is only utilized when no > > primary memory is available

[plug] Re: GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't understand this part. If my memory is not fully utilized, why > eat a part of the swap? I thought swap is only utilized when no > primary memory is available. Actually, Linux gets to use a little swap when you load something that's large (maybe large

Re: [plug] Re: [plug-misc] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
You should also put up something for students. Who knows one of them might make big choices someday? -- Shae -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.p

[plug] How to Market FOSS? (was Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005)

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "How to market FOSS?" Good call. > > Or, starting today, we can work on the marketing strategy and present > it at the conference. Not just present, but actually use it. Yeah, that sounds very good. =) I'll share a few ideas tomorrow, as for now I nee

Re: [plug] Re: GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
> > Mem:516036k total, 512348k used, 3688k free, 183688k buffers > > Swap: 1060248k total, 916k used, 1059332k free,98500k cached I don't understand this part. If my memory is not fully utilized, why eat a part of the swap? I thought swap is only utilized when no primary mem

Re: [plug] Re: [plug-misc] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Eduardo Tongson
Regarding the conference, do they have booths in there too -- Eduardo Tongson -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Officia

[plug] Re: [plug-misc] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 9, 2005 12:11 AM, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > World domination one geek at a time! Mwahahahahahaha! > > Seriously, what FOSS really needs to actually connect to common people > is a marketing strategy that's simply devilish, like th

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
How about this topic: trying to introduce FOSS to outsiders. In other words, a talk on how to set up a conference like PhilOSC to a smaller gathering of people, who are not necessary business or techie types. I know, it sounds kinda straightforward, but it should at least be able to help advocates

[plug] Re: GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am basically a GUI person. Lately, I observed that desktop > environments are using too much memory. For example, my KDE reveals in > "top": > > Mem:516036k total, 512348k used, 3688k free, 183688k buffers > Swap: 1060248k total, 916k used

[plug] urpmi db update question

2005-04-08 Thread Edel SM
hello list, im updating a friend's mandrake box. however, when i executed urpmi.updated i get some md5sum mismatch. is this normal? or i am missing something... [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.update -a -c examining MD5SUM file retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "jpackage"... http://ft

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Sacha Chua
Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The location is already fixed. Now of course it's great to have a > Cebu-based conference too, so I hope someone else could pick that up. There was a Cebu-based conference recently; March 14-15, to be precise. I know because I did Knoppix talks on both

Re: [plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Jerome Gotangco
If MS does become a sponsor again in the event why not? As long as they don't spread FUD and stuff...they can actually promote their little-known Windows Services for UNIX software and other Interoperability tools. It would be nice to see the stuff Novell has, as well as other linux vendors locall

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Kutch Villasor
I did'nt mean to have a introduction. Just to enhance the courage of filipino linux user and developer and even windows user. Not all the time lahat ng linux users/fanatic or curious users know's the success sa mga nauna.  For sure there are people will be interested. When I attend the philosc las

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Bopolissimus Platypus Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i can sort of see why people might want microsoft out of there > completely, but i don't really see the harm in them being there > myself, as long as they're not being obnoxious and annoying people by > buttonholing them or something. Same he

Re: [plug] C++ regexp library

2005-04-08 Thread Bopolissimus Platypus Jr
On Apr 7, 2005 12:46 AM, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 6, 2005 11:28 PM, Bopolissimus Platypus Jr > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Boost library includes POSIX regular expression functions. thanks paolo. i've looked at boost, and also at pcre. i've decided that i ca

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread ian sison (mailing list)
Oh yes, maybe a cool and fun topic would be "Building your own HTPC (home theater PC) with Linux and MythTV" Who says linux is just for geeks! http://www.mythv.org On Apr 8, 2005 10:45 AM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm working on the Philippine Open Source Conference 200

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread ian sison (mailing list)
On Apr 8, 2005 9:46 PM, ian sison (mailing list) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh yes, maybe a cool and fun topic would be "Building your own HTPC > (home theater PC) with Linux and MythTV" > > Who says linux is just for geeks! > > http://www.mythv.org > Ok. That's a typo. http://www.mythtv.org

Re: [plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 5:07 PM, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sacha, Clair, Dong, and myself (along with multinationals and other > Filipinos both locally and overseas) have started participating on > Mathias Klang's and Jonas Öberg's course on FOSS Political > Science[1]. Maybe that could be a

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 5:35 PM, Greg Igaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about embedded systems? > > Second to servers, this is the field where there has been an explosion > of Linux as a viable platform. Do we have local development going on here? > *Maybe we can invite manufacturers of SBC (single

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 7:57 PM, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > overall, you WANT the system to eat all your memory!!! what's the > point of having the memory if you don't use it? linux will always eat > all the memory that\s unused by processes, to use as disk cache. the > cache/buffers will g

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Orlando Andico
also note in the top list above around 170MB is eaten by disk buffers. this is memory that's used as disk cache, and is not being eaten by applications. overall, you WANT the system to eat all your memory!!! what's the point of having the memory if you don't use it? linux will always eat all the m

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Orlando Andico
umm... setting mem=512M will limit you to 512M of total physical memory, it will not limit the swap usage. so having more memory than that will hurt you (the extra RAM is thrown away). in linux 2.6 you can have either swap=2X to 3X MEM, or no swap at all. i tried the no swap deal for a while, no a

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread cj pangilinan
na try monb ung fluxbox? or xfce? mas low mem ang gamit nla kaysa sa 2(gnome,kde).. simple nga lng sya.. On Apr 8, 2005 7:37 PM, Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am basically a GUI person. Lately, I observed that desktop > environments are using too much memory. For example, my KDE reveals

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Aldous Penaranda
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 07:37:37AM -0400, Shae Tan wrote: > I am basically a GUI person. Lately, I observed that desktop > environments are using too much memory. For example, my KDE reveals in > "top": > > Mem:516036k total, 512348k used, 3688k free, 183688k buffers > Swap: 1060248k

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
On Apr 8, 2005 7:37 PM, Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am basically a GUI person. Lately, I observed that desktop > environments are using too much memory. For example, my KDE reveals in > "top": > > Mem:516036k total, 512348k used, 3688k free, 183688k buffers > Swap: 1060248

Re: [plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Allan Espinosa
Usually if you don't set mem=512m on your boot loader config, linux will just eat all of your memory according to "free". When I appended this on my boot options. the issue seems to be fixed. But I did not notice performance differences though. On Apr 8, 2005 7:37 PM, Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED

[plug] GUI, desktop environments

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
I am basically a GUI person. Lately, I observed that desktop environments are using too much memory. For example, my KDE reveals in "top": Mem:516036k total, 512348k used, 3688k free, 183688k buffers Swap: 1060248k total, 916k used, 1059332k free,98500k cached I want to kno

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Bopolissimus Platypus Jr
On Apr 8, 2005 9:23 AM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And please DONT INVITE MICROSOFT COMPANY! hehehehhee coz last year > > MSDN was there! It's nice that FULL OPENS SOURCE ONLY > > I wasn't involved in last year's event, so I don't know how exactly > Microsoft made it. :) i

Re: [plug] Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread Anuerin Diaz
On Apr 8, 2005 6:11 PM, Dong Calmada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 8, 2005 4:07 PM, Ian Dexter R. Marquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Or, just point apt sources to the hoary repo, and do "sudo apt-get > > update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". :) > > I agree. But this is advisable

[plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Kutch Villasor
I'm back online. Weheww. I did'nt check my mail for a month and I got 50 Messges but it's nice that I see first the topic Philippine Open Source Conference 2005 w/c is cool for me.   Hi have some Suggestion. But before that I hope that the conference will be on 1st or 2nd week of October so that I

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Jerome Gotangco
I fully agree on this topics since this is one of the hottest things being discussed at the moment - especially Asterisk. Jerome On Apr 8, 2005 5:14 PM, ian sison (mailing list) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My suggestion: Telephony, Asterisk, VOIP, and integration with the enterprise. -- Philippi

Re: [plug] Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread Dong Calmada
On Apr 8, 2005 4:07 PM, Ian Dexter R. Marquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Or, just point apt sources to the hoary repo, and do "sudo apt-getupdate" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". :) I agree. But this is advisable to those with fast internet connection. Good thing my office just had DSL connection

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Greg Igaya
How about embedded systems? Second to servers, this is the field where there has been an explosion of Linux as a viable platform. Some possible sub-topics: *The Familiar distro -- Linux on an IPAQ. *Cross-compilation using the GNU toolchain. *Maybe we can invite manufacturers of SBC (single boa

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 5:09 PM, Kutch Villasor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi have some Suggestion. But before that I hope that the conference will be > on 1st or 2nd week of October so that I can attend :D and additionally last > year the conference was held at Shangri-la Edsa Plaza Hotel (I was there),

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 5:28 PM, Manny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about something on IPv6? I don't know anyone who's really into IPv6, except the researchers in ASTI. Are you? -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread ian sison (mailing list)
My suggestion: Telephony, Asterisk, VOIP, and integration with the enterprise. -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://lists

[plug] Re: Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
[To Migs: sorry for the dup mail, I had some paint spilling over my keyboard, multitasking =/...] Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What topics would you like to see in a talk? What activities would you > like to have? What companies' products do you want exhibited? (And > what do you

Re: [plug] Segmentation Fault on Gimpshop

2005-04-08 Thread Orlando Andico
update your glib2? On Apr 8, 2005 4:11 PM, Andres Montiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I installed GimpShop on a newly installed Fedora Core 3 machine. It > installed without any hitches. However, when I try to run it, I get the > following errors: -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing L

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Manny
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Miguel A Paraz wrote: What topics would you like to see in a talk? What activities would you like to have? What companies' products do you want exhibited? (And what do you want to do with them - I know you want to hack on them of course...) What about something on IPv6? God bles

[plug] LTSP

2005-04-08 Thread Ian Dexter R. Marquez
On 2005-04-08 16:43, Munoz, Ricky (PHL) wrote: > I don't think I've ever heard the words "desktop" and "beauty" used together > when referring to Windows before. > Maybe so, but consider this: when our boss' 10-year-old son saw a just-installed Bayanihan Linux 3 desktop, he exclaimed, "Wow! Wind

Re: [plug] LTSP

2005-04-08 Thread ian sison (mailing list)
> I don't think I've ever heard the words "desktop" and "beauty" used together > when referring to Windows before. Well compared to some linux "window managers" yes, i'd say it is beautiful and functional, but that's me. Give M$ a break, they've invested so much in the R&D of their GUI, and credi

[plug] Re: Segmentation Fault on Gimpshop

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Andres Montiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I installed GimpShop on a newly installed Fedora Core 3 machine. It > installed without any hitches. However, when I try to run it, I get the > following errors: Could you give an strace? I'm on a hunch that GTK2 is at fault... -- ZAK B. ELEP <

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Mike Liguit
Hi Migz, How about security? I'd be glad to talk about firewalling in Linux using iptables and transparent application proxying using Zorp (GPL) http://www.balabit.com/products/zorp_gpl/ --> Mike On Apr 8, 2005 10:45 AM, Miguel A Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm working on the Philip

RE: [plug] LTSP

2005-04-08 Thread Munoz, Ricky (PHL)
I don't think I've ever heard the words "desktop" and "beauty" used together when referring to Windows before. > -Original Message- > From: Ian Dexter R. Marquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:29 PM > To: Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List > Subject: Re

[plug] Segmentation Fault on Gimpshop

2005-04-08 Thread Andres Montiel
I installed GimpShop on a newly installed Fedora Core 3 machine. It installed without any hitches. However, when I try to run it, I get the following errors: (gimp:5120): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for type `GimpContainerEntry' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkEntry' class

Re: [plug] Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread Ian Dexter R. Marquez
On 2005-04-08 15:58, Miguel A Paraz wrote: > On Apr 8, 2005 3:53 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Fresh from the #ubuntu-devel channel a few minutes ago: >> >>http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/23.html > Nice. > And to all, please minimize the use

Re: [plug] Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 3:53 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fresh from the #ubuntu-devel channel a few minutes ago: > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/23.html Congrats! And to all, please minimize the use of "shipit" :) -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (

[plug] Re: Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-08 Thread Zak B. Elep
Anuerin Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DNS information caching on the other hand is different. I use one at > home since i can't rely on the name servers of PT&T during the lucky > times that I can connect on their own dialup network. :( Yes, there is a certain speedup seen in DNS caching. I

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-08 Thread roderick tapang
On Apr 8, 2005 3:38 PM, Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given that I am in a dialup, can I configure squid to act as a web > cache? Has anyone tried this? Is there a significant increase in > browsing speed? it will definitely help when your users are accessing frequently visited sites. also

[plug] Ubuntu 5.04 The Hoary Hedgehog release is now officially released

2005-04-08 Thread Jerome Gotangco
Fresh from the #ubuntu-devel channel a few minutes ago: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/23.html Torrents for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, DVD builds are now available. -- Jerome S. Gotangco GPG: A97B69A0 @ pgp.mit.edu IRC: jsgotangco @ freenode #ubuntu, #ubuntu-doc, #ubuntu

Re: [plug] LTSP

2005-04-08 Thread Marvin T. Pascual
On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 15:28 +0800, Ian Dexter R. Marquez wrote: > > Yes, this discussion need not be a "pissing contest" on who has deployed > the most clients given such and such resources. Too bad, we came in late > when Marvin Pascual presented LTSP at last year's PhilOSC; but I'm sure > member

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-08 Thread Anuerin Diaz
On Apr 8, 2005 3:38 PM, Shae Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given that I am in a dialup, can I configure squid to act as a web > cache? Has anyone tried this? Is there a significant increase in > browsing speed? > i have read discussion that using a web-caching proxy for a single unit is rathe

Re: [plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-08 Thread Paolo Dizon
Tried it once. I dont think there was a significant increase in browsing speed. Back then, my connection was ~50kbps with 4 clients IIRC. Also, my machine (our gateway, local dns cache, squid) wasn't that fast. (Athlon Tbird 1.4ghz with 256MB RAM and ATA100 harddrive) IMO, it's a waste of effort

Re: FW: [plug] Mandrakesoft Announces Name Change!

2005-04-08 Thread Anuerin Diaz
On Apr 8, 2005 3:48 PM, Munoz, Ricky (PHL) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cj pangilinan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:16 PM > > To: Reynald I. Ngo; Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List > > Subject: Re: FW: [plug] Mandrak

[plug] Squid caching (in a dialup)

2005-04-08 Thread Shae Tan
Given that I am in a dialup, can I configure squid to act as a web cache? Has anyone tried this? Is there a significant increase in browsing speed? -- Shae -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.q-linux.com (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org

Re: [plug] LTSP

2005-04-08 Thread Ian Dexter R. Marquez
On 2005-04-08 14:16, ian sison (mailing list) wrote: > > The most important of which is user acceptance. I know a lot of you > abhore the corpulence of KDE and GNOME, but hey, sometimes it takes a > desktop that resembles Windows in both functionality and beauty for a > user to even consider mo

RE: FW: [plug] Mandrakesoft Announces Name Change!

2005-04-08 Thread Munoz, Ricky (PHL)
> -Original Message- > From: cj pangilinan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:16 PM > To: Reynald I. Ngo; Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List > Subject: Re: FW: [plug] Mandrakesoft Announces Name Change! > > > On Apr 8, 2005 2:59 PM, Reynald I. Ngo <[EMAIL

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 3:10 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, depends on the location of the Canonical-employed community > people. My upcoming Sydney for instance, is sponsored by Canonical. > > But we'll see. I can put this up for discussion during the BOF session > since Mark Shuttl

Re: FW: [plug] Mandrakesoft Announces Name Change!

2005-04-08 Thread cj pangilinan
On Apr 8, 2005 2:59 PM, Reynald I. Ngo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mandriva... UCK!! WHY? > > On Apr 8, 2005 8:51 AM, Anuerin Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > tell me about it. mandrakeusers.org has been running polls on what > > would be a good name but basing on mandrakesoft's previous ma

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Clair Ching
> Does Canonical fly people to talks around the world? Cool! Hehehe. Ikaw rin? Gusto mo?=) > > I don't think the conference organizers have a budget for "importing" > people. The most interesting imports I've seen was at the Singapore > Linux Conference in 1999, which coincided with APRICOT. RMS

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Jerome Gotangco
Yes, depends on the location of the Canonical-employed community people. My upcoming Sydney for instance, is sponsored by Canonical. But we'll see. I can put this up for discussion during the BOF session since Mark Shuttleworth is there as well. Jerome On Apr 8, 2005 3:02 PM, Miguel A Paraz <[EM

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 2:56 PM, Ian Dexter R. Marquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Best practices (yet again, as I think these have been tackled last > year) in several settings: enterprise, academe, government, NGOs/POs, etc. That's "the usual" stuff for open source conferences... I'd like another spin

Re: [plug] Philippine Open Source Conference 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Miguel A Paraz
On Apr 8, 2005 2:08 PM, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > October is the release month for Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger so it's a > good thing but I don't think I'm the right person to do it. Mabye I > can invite Benjamin Hill since he's the one responsible for the > community matters. Doe

Re: FW: [plug] Mandrakesoft Announces Name Change!

2005-04-08 Thread Reynald I. Ngo
Mandriva... UCK!! On Apr 8, 2005 8:51 AM, Anuerin Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > tell me about it. mandrakeusers.org has been running polls on what > would be a good name but basing on mandrakesoft's previous marketing > genius (or lack of) we knew it was just a mtter of time that they > would