[RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have found that every system has some advantage. Brifters for riding in heavy traffic; BE friction for touring; DT friction for pure joy riding; but my tandem has BE indexed because I'm too far away to hear it, although I find shifting the tandem with Shimano indexed pretty slow compared to

[RBW] Re: Climbing and the consequences

2011-08-03 Thread Michael Hechmer
The great thing about climbing is that every mountain has a top! And you get to go downhill. We did a short charity ride on the tandem over the weekend and the first half was all uphill, climbing 1300+ feet in fifteen miles of mostly dirt roads. Tandems don't like going uphill and the 130

[RBW] Re: re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-08-03 Thread Garth
I'm at a point in my life where I'm caring less and less about aesthetics of a bike. 2TT's seemed odd from afar . but after I got a Bombadil frame and loved the ride so much I forgot about the second TT. . . .though it does make for a higher clamp position in my Park work stand

[RBW] Re: WTT: olive Sackville small Trunksack for grid grey

2011-08-03 Thread Brett Lindenbach
Perhaps you have seen this? I have no connection to the seller. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290594376133ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 Cheers, BDL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion

Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale Atlantis

2011-08-03 Thread Tim Whalen
Dear Michael, Very moving, thank you for telling the story. I am sorry for your loss, and the world's loss as obviously your daughter would have contributed a lot in many ways. Best of luck selling the Atlantis. Tim Whalen On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Michael Lee twobirdsg...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
Those are exactly what I have. No intention of ever removing them as they work great for road biking. I have bar ends on my trail bike as I don't always want to take my hands off the bars on that one. On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: I have 9 speed indexed

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 2, 2011, at 5:27 PM, bicyclebill wrote: My Butler originally had Campy downtube shifters and, aside from the question of reach, they were extremely vague and had a mind of their own about shifting. Campy friction downtube shifters *did* have a mind of their own about shifting and

[RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

2011-08-03 Thread stevep33
I sold my Rambouillet and AHH. I got a Boulder Brevet (700c) and liked it so much that I just picked up a Boulder 650b frameset. The main improvement, IMO, is the lighter tubing which makes for a livelier ride and the low trail geometry. I am liking the plain-ness of these TIG frames too. That

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread stevep33
I'm a DT shifter. They work, they are simple, I like the look. I've gotten pretty good at shifting both levers at once with the right hand, so DTs usually aren't a hassle. That said, I have been thinking it would be nice to switch my rough stuff bike to brifters, because DT shifting is a bit

Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale Atlantis

2011-08-03 Thread René Sterental
Thank you for posting the link to the article and sharing her Virginia's story. Your loss is our loss. I hope you get a buyer for her Atlantis that appreciates what it represents. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale Atlantis

2011-08-03 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Michael Lee twobirdsg...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mind sharing all I can. This forum was suggested to me by Mr. John Bennett from Rivendell Bicycle Works but I was a little shy and unsure with my first post. I am located 100 miles from a tree on the plains of

[RBW] Re: Climbing and the consequences

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
This downhill had me hitting 42mph and averaging 30 on the downhills... not too shabby for a single! Would be hitting warp speed on a tandem!!! On Aug 3, 4:03 am, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The great thing about climbing is that every mountain has a top!  And you get to go

[RBW] Re: WTB Wanted to Buy: Rivendell Nitto Mark's Rack / M-18 front rack

2011-08-03 Thread dirk pitt
I have / had one . I honestly can't remember if I still have it . I barely used it but for some reason I think I may have sold it a year or two ago. I'll look when I get home from work . If I still have it I'll sell it. My goodness is my memory bad. I can't even remember if I have a rack. Too many

Re: [RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

2011-08-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:18 -0700, stevep33 wrote: I sold my Rambouillet and AHH. I got a Boulder Brevet (700c) and liked it so much that I just picked up a Boulder 650b frameset. The main improvement, IMO, is the lighter tubing which makes for a livelier ride and the low trail geometry. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread robert zeidler
+1 on STI, and for that matter SPD also. I have always heard you'll damage STI in a crash, but I've never had that happen although crashes, thank my personal deity, have been rare. I have, however, a box full of broken BE shifters, which now are used/given/lent as spare parts, and are almost

[RBW] Re: Riding in Birkenstocks

2011-08-03 Thread csem
You will love the tan lines on your feet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AgKlRk6P3F8J. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:41 -0400, robert zeidler wrote: If your in Litchfield, NE and your bike tips over while you were taking a quick comfort break, and you BE snaps off, who's going to fix it? I've been using bar end shifters since 1974 or 1975, currently have them on something like 6 or

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread Mojo
I have seen plenty of STI failure, but never bar ends On Aug 3, 5:41 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on STI, and for that matter SPD also.  I have always heard you'll damage STI in a crash, but I've never had that happen although crashes, thank my personal deity, have

[RBW] Re: Riding in Birkenstocks

2011-08-03 Thread Leslie
My feet have Teva tan lines, but Chaco tan-lines aren't uncommon either. Hadn't had Birk lines, tho' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

2011-08-03 Thread stevep33
It is, and it's a modest up-charge. I shortened the top tube on my new 650b by a cm, but I think it was actually unnecessary now that I have the bike. This just confirms that I don't need custom sizing. All this said, Riv sets the bar very high in terms of getting the details right every time,

[RBW] Re: Riding in Birkenstocks

2011-08-03 Thread Zack
I really dislike riding in chacos, they are always too wide for me and strike the crank on the inside when I pedal. Tried them with mks touring pedals and grip kings, they are a no go for me. Super comfortable for walking around though. Tevas + grip kings are my favorite for long rides. Birks

[RBW] 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread jinxed
Just some curious observation on wheel size. I spent the years from @ 1989-2004 almost exclusively on 26 wheeled mountain bikes in the dirt. I dabbled a bit with road bikes, cruisers, folders, bmx bikes in there too, but for all intent I was a mountain biker. Then I picked up a 700c cross

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I had a similar experience coming form 26 MTBs... had a B'stone MB2 for the 90's, then sold it when I ended up riding my then RB-T and then my All-Rounder exclusively on the trails. Decided I wanted to get back into actual mountain biking and ended up with a Karate Monkey. What, a great bike!

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread Michael Hechmer
This thread seems to have divided into two parts, but I want to respond to both. I have broken two pairs of Ultegra STI shifters in crashes, fortunately not irreparably so. The first one went down hard on a dirt road and was so filled with dirt it would not work. I needed to flush nearly a

[RBW] Re: Strange Weather

2011-08-03 Thread Karl M
I could take a little of that. Here in sunny Austin Texas we've had about 50 days over 100 degrees so far and may break the record of 69 days set two years ago. Last night it didn't drop below 100 until after 8pm and it's generally 80 degrees by about 7am. And, we're about 10 inches behind on

[RBW] Re: ebay Rodeo

2011-08-03 Thread Scotty
Same seller is selling a pretty cool belt drive Co-Motion bike too. Im not sold on the belt drive thing but interesting and pretty bike to look at. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread John Bennett
Created by a customer, not us...but who are *we* to disagree? http://www.cafepress.com/DoubleTopTubesRule Cheers, John at RB(TT)W HQ, WC, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread Leslie
650B! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/T9aQHFe2VasJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread Leslie
Awesome sauce! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1yQZQs4KajsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: For Sale Atlantis

2011-08-03 Thread Justin August
Hi Perhaps Riv can look up the dimensions based onthe serial number? If you take some pictures we can help too. Also - I am 30 and just lost my younger brother one month and six days ago. He was 27. I know what my parents are going through and I know that it isn't easy. Be strong and keep sharing

[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread Zack
i had to do SOMETHING while I was waiting for my 64cm Sam! Glad you guys get a kick out of it. I certainly did when I was making it, particularly when I was selecting the stuff that could be purchased. ahahah. good times. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread Aaron Thomas
Will proceeds be donated to one of Rivendell's charities? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vlsTYu4eVYEJ. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
If I were starting over in the bike thing, I would have all 650b. As it is, I'm pretty financially committed to 700C... On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: 650B! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Riding in Birkenstocks

2011-08-03 Thread EricP
Have run into an interesting issue with Teva sandals and Grip Kings. On longer rides, the toes on my right foot will go numb. Figure I'm trying to curl them as I ride. Doesn't seem to be an issue in Keens or on sneaker pedals. Just that particular combo on longer rides. Will no longer be an

[RBW] Re: S36O Minnesota to Wisconsin

2011-08-03 Thread EricP
Strangely enough, this is only showing up on the old Google Groups page. Not the new version. Oh, and thanks to list admin Jim for getting it out of limbo. (Yes, this is just a cheap attempt to see if it will show up in the new groups.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, EricP

[RBW] Borralumin Laterale Randonneuse, c.1948

2011-08-03 Thread Don Genovese
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding in Birkenstocks

2011-08-03 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I just rode RAGBRAI with exactly that combination (GK + Tevas) and had no ill effects. It really just shows how different we all are. I do wish I'd had something with toe protection in our tent city though as I tore a toenail on a stake during a late night kybo run. Aloha On Aug 3, 2011 2:56 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 17:55 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: If I were starting over in the bike thing, I would have all 650b. As it is, I'm pretty financially committed to 700C... Maybe so now, but most ardent 650B fans were equally committed to 700C at one time. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
Hmmm, must ponder the implications of that... On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 17:55 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: If I were starting over in the bike thing, I would have all 650b. As it is, I'm pretty financially committed to

[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread William
THAT is freaking hysterical. Take, THAT, you haters! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5K4GdWUzKO4J. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Fishy Betty

2011-08-03 Thread grant
The craigslist antique one.here's the latest, kind of interesting- One of our customers contacted the guy, had planned to buy the bike for as little as possible. Expected to meet him on the street down by the corner near the liquor store, but one surprise after another, and all good: --

[RBW] Re: Getting used to Silver barend shifters

2011-08-03 Thread Rex Kerr
Thanks to everybody who gave input... I finally got around to doing something about the poor shifting. After a particularly frustrating commute this morning I pulled it apart during a break at work and: * removed one chain link + set of side plates to increase chain tension * retracted the

[RBW] Re: Fishy Betty

2011-08-03 Thread Leslie
Hopefully it wasn't shady, just a bit unfortunate luck for some gal; who might just be lucky and see a friend return... that'd be cool! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Fishy Betty

2011-08-03 Thread David Faller
This is Rivendell Reader material. On 8/3/2011 7:45 PM, grant wrote: The craigslist antique one.here's the latest, kind of interesting- One of our customers contacted the guy, had planned to buy the bike for as little as possible. Expected to meet him on the street down by the corner

Re: [RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

2011-08-03 Thread Dan Abelson
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:18 AM, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote: I sold my Rambouillet and AHH. I got a Boulder Brevet (700c) and liked it so much that I just picked up a Boulder 650b frameset. You can count me as someone who has benefited from those who have chosen something other than a

[RBW] Re: Decision Potential

2011-08-03 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well, I decided. First, I should address the why more clearly. Primarily, sheet redundancy. Secondarily (a close second), the ability to keep one bike shod with studded tires through the winter. Thirdly (distant third), have two different arrangements available at any one time, for those

[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread Michael_S
I'm sure that 99.999% of the population would read this differently than double top tubes. just say it as it reads and you can figure out the rest. BTW... I only like the diagonal doubles, the parallel design, regardless of the structural significance, is uh... ungainly. ~mike -- You

[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread Zack
Consider it done, whatever meager proceeds come out of it will be donated to the fistula foundation (cafepress takes the lion's share of the revenue off the top). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on

[RBW] Re: Fishy Betty

2011-08-03 Thread Mojo
This is why I buy from Rivendell. Your good folks! I appreciate all of your efforts. On Aug 3, 7:45 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: The craigslist antique one.here's the latest, kind of interesting- One of our customers contacted the guy, had planned to buy the bike for as little

[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread Zack
(also, it was really just a joke, because i found another thread over on the ibob group last night exhaustively and passionately debating the structural and aesthetic merits of the 2TT, and thought that people seem to be taking the whole thing a bit too seriously.) it actually didn't really

[RBW] Re: Fishy Betty

2011-08-03 Thread Joe Bernard
This story would be a lot happier without construction guy takes crying girl's bike. How 'bout giving Crying Girl a payment plan, arsehole.. Joe I'll take it, then BS people on Craigslist Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
But it's appreciated over in this end of the internets! On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: (also, it was really just a joke, because i found another thread over on the ibob group last night exhaustively and passionately debating the structural and aesthetic merits

Re: [RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT

2011-08-03 Thread Aaron Thomas
Indeed it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wK7X2eLdN88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Riv Branding

2011-08-03 Thread Rex Kerr
While riding home today I had somebody catch up with me and comment on my bike, asking if it was a Riv. Interestingly, he's been the first to not ask what an AHH was. Most bike companies put their brand on the downtube and the model on the top-tube, but Riv seems to go against the grain

Re: [RBW] Re: Riding in Birkenstocks

2011-08-03 Thread Rex Kerr
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:18 AM, csem enviroen...@yahoo.com wrote: You will love the tan lines on your feet. I love the Z lines on my Chaco shod feet. :-) I hear a lot of complaints about riding in Chacos due to the width. I've noticed the same, but I tend to pedal heel out, so I assumed that

Re: [RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW

2011-08-03 Thread Rex Kerr
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:08 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise, can agree that we should *meet at 3pm on September 24th at Walnut Creek BART and head up the hill from there to Juniper Camp? *get there later or earlier, but we'll see you at juniper on way or the other. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW

2011-08-03 Thread Joe Bunik
3000' mark on Diablo via North Gate Rd. I don't know the exact measurements, but had thought D. is generally a continual 8-10%? It's a climb, but not the worst thing ever either, IMO. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 8/3/11, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:08 PM, erik

[RBW] Re: Downtube shifter diehards vs. downtube shifter experimenters

2011-08-03 Thread velomann
Over a period of 40+ years and tens of thousands of bike miles on all kinds of rigs and several good hard crashes, I have had 2 irreparable shifter failures. The first was my Shimano 600 downtube shifters (right 6-speed) the notches for indexing simply wore out. Thought I have to admit I was

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-03 Thread Joe Bernard
My assumption is that it is the result of Rivendell - the original production models from Waterford - becoming the high-end customs, so they needed a way to differentiate the production Atlantis from the customs, then kept at the practice as they became more of a production bike company again.