On Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:00:52 PM UTC-6, Thomas Graves wrote:
> My second day out on my new (to me) Hilsen I had a similar moment. I biked
> home from work, but the riding was too much fun, I didn't want to get off
> the bike. So I just kept riding.
>
I know exactly what you mean. My
Andy and I had a great time on the first leg. I was on the Travelo (Bleriot
Protovelo with S&S couplers). The ride started chilly, upper 40s, but for
somebody from Wisconsin it was short sleeve weather. Once the sun got above the
hills it warmed up fast. Got up to about 90 on the climbs up to Ra
A few photos…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronatd/sets/72157639962855526/
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:27:22 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
> Richard and Johanna at Waterford very kindly indulged my curiosity for
> their amazing workshop in Waterford.
>
I was there on Friday afternoon, dropping off my almost 30 year old Santana
tandem frame for them to do a new
Back to the thread topic … "oversize" vs "standard" or "skinny" tubes …
I have a variety of mostly Rivendell bikes (Herons, Riv Road, Riv MTB,
Quickbeam, Bleriot Protovelo) generally built with plus-sized tubes, though
the Riv Road has identical 28.6 top and down tubes. And I have a
Terraferma
I have used 3 different sets of tires on my Bleriot/Protovelo in the last few
months:
Nokian A10
Riv Fatty Rumpkin (the original ones)
Pacenti Pari Moto
The difference in riding effort/speed is astonishing. I describe the difference
between the Nokians and the Pari Motos as three gears (on a wid
If anyone is sad they missed out on William's beautiful Santana, you have a
second chance. John Sotherland is selling his.
john sotherland
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:22:46 PM UTC-5, William! wrote:
>
> Hi David,
> I have gotten a pretty overwhelming response on the tandem and there are a
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:54:18 PM UTC-5, David Spranger wrote:
>
> We left our camera at home, but my spouse did what she could with my
> phone. She took pictures of anything that took her interest.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/sets/72157642402340484/
>
>
Thanks so much for
Calling all warm weather randonneurs.
I'm planning to finish an R-12 in January. Since the first 11 will all have
occurred in Wisconsin, I'm hoping to reward myself by doing the last one
somewhere a bit more, ah, clement. So, please weigh in with your
suggestions for a great 200km brevet (or a
I did two seasons on Pari Motos. The first year I did a solo 600 km ride that
involved a large amount of gravel. I commuted regularly on them into the
winter. The second year I did a super rando series on them. This year I have
done 8 200km rides on Hetre extra legers. So, I think I have enough
Well, for full disclosure, I'm 5'6" and 125lbs, so your mileage may vary!
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:28:21 AM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
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> Thanks. Fast is what I want. However I am pretty heavy at 6'7" and 265is
>
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On Mar 27, 11:49 am, Esteban wrote:
> I love, love the Pari-motos - but they're not an everyday tire. Light as a
> feather, and built that way too.
>
I'm only one data point, but I've done a solo 600k, a 400k brevet, and
a whole lot of daily commuting on a pair of Pari Motos and I've had
only
On Mar 27, 8:00 pm, RonaTD wrote:
> am having a dickens of a
> itinerary getting them to mount straight on Velocity rims.
Argh. iOS spell correction and aging eyesight. Sorry about that. I
meant a dickens of a time, not itinerary.
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On Apr 2, 11:50 pm, James Warren wrote:
Here is a sample:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/4551628878/in/photostream/
>
> Also, I am 6'4".
Now THAT is a great looking bike! (biases fully admitted)
It also is, as noted, hardly pushing the envelope for getting the bars
down below t
On May 21, 2:56 pm, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:
> You're going to commute on Pari-Motos?
I've been regularly commuting on Pari Motos for almost two years now,
with two flats total. 9-10 miles each way, suburban streets, paved
bike path, and city streets. Plus a 600k solo involving a lot of
gravel and a
On Jun 4, 9:39 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
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> Great pics, Ted. Can you put names to some of the faces?
I'm afraid I can only put first names. Jim & Jim, a little help here??
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The Riv video shows the upper section being done from the brake lever up.
Recently I tried ending both sections at the brake lever and found that it
really works well. It makes the hemp twine thing unnecessary, but you can
still do it just for looks. It works really well for a harlequin weave. F
+1 on spending some time without the camping gear on the bikes. One option
might be to get to the camp site early in the day, set up camp, then go for a
loop ride in the afternoon.
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> So what are YOU riding?
>
I rode a Vespa 300 for a couple years, then switched to a MotoGuzzi V7
Classic. It's about as basic a motorcycle as you can buy these days. I have
found that learning to ride a motorcycle properly (starting with a good MSF
course) has significantly improved my bic
Eric -
Boy did I ever enjoy that. Way better than actually being on the first
half of that ride, but it looks like the last 100k at least was pretty
nice.
Fantastic photography, great music selection, and excellent post
production. Really a fine example of the art.
Love seeing bits of your refle
Here in SE Wisconsin it's typical spring weather. 20mph gusting over
30. Helped me going to work, but was a drag coming home. Rode a fixed
gear today and wished dearly I'd put some cogs and shifters on it over
the weekend.
Riv content... the bike I rode today is a Heron Road converted to
650B. Rod
The Timberland bike shoe reminds me of the Allen-Edmonds Mitchell
(http://www.sierratradingpost.com/i/2251V,02,_Allen-Edmonds-Evans-
Shoes-Lace-Ups-For-Men.html)
I have two pairs, dark brown and black. Grant tipped me to them last
year, and luckily the AE HQ is just up the road from here and they h
> > he is actually measuring 54 cm c-c would that make it a 56cm...if so I might
> > bid on this one..
They came in odd sizes. Measuring 54 c-c would probably be a 55, which
should have a 56.5 top tube. I can tell you just by looking at the
picture that it's probably a 55, not a 57.
Ted Durant
A genuine, rare-as-hens'-teeth Riv MTB:
http://gallery.me.com/teddurant#100134
Sorry it's just a bad garage-door shot. I should do it justice
sometime.
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I was a Gatorade user but as I got to longer distances found that the sugar
was intolerable. I just recently discovered Coco Hydro and have tried it on
a couple of 200k's and it's worked great. The potassium-sodium ratio in
coconut water is much higher than most other supplements, very close to
I am completely baffled by people who seem determined to pick a fight over Jan
vs Grant. I know them both, have been in fun discussions with them about
bikes, read a lot of what they have written, and can't for the life of me
figure out why people think there is some sort of holy war worth figh
That is a sweet frame. I had a couple of Holdsworth "Special".frames years
back. The Special was the club racer frame - 73 degree angles, medium
wheelbase. It' was the inspiration for the Heron.
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On Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:04:46 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
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> The Rodeo is targeted at club
> racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size
> wheels as everybody else.
>
>
While I personally have no problem carrying my own tubes and patches (and
an honest to goodness pum
On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:12:55 PM UTC-5, ageorge...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> No connection, but much admiration & lust :
> http://www.cycleexif.com/holdsworth-69551
>
>
Now that's a low trail bike! I know the front wheel is up a bit in the
stand, but that looks like about a 71 degree head tube an
Moto Guzzi V7 Classic. Great all around bike. Easy loafer around town,
as much fun as I'll ever be able to handle out in the country. Not a
super slab mega miler, but I went out to the Twin Cities and back
(almost 800 miles) in a 2-day trip this fall and survived.
I haven't kept track of the seat
Not all Rivendell bikes are the same, but they tend to have a narrow
range of trail, depending on how extreme you get with tire sizes.
Weight on the front will change the feel of any bike, some more, some
less.
Some recent experimental results on my bikes. On my Bleriot prototype
(theoretically 71
On Dec 11, 6:54 am, Marty wrote:
> Herons will be added, and the poster will have to grow another row, but
> that means I can add the undertuber AHH too, (like I did the Hillborne)
> and probably one more I'm sure will come along. Do you recall when the
> Heron's were introduced? Was it just af
On Dec 12, 11:07 am, Bill Carter wrote:
> Weren't you one of the original partners with RBW in the Heron
> project?
Yes, I was.
> I also have a poster (still in the tube) which is an
> artist's rendering of the brick front of a bike shop with a Heron bike
> in the window and an old bird smoking
On Dec 24, 5:07 pm, Joe Bernard wrote:
> Beautiful. What color is that?
Basic burnt orange or pumpkin.
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I'm definitely interested. Let's get a date on the calendar soon to
block it out.
It's possible I'll ride there and back, duplicating much of my
Milwaukee-Northfield ride a couple years ago.
It's probable I'll not be riding a Rivendell, though. I'm most of the
way done installing the rear fender
> Let's try June 1-3 in Red Wing, MN.
The only conflict I know of so far is that the Great Lakes Randonneurs
have an event that weekend (200-600k options). It's not a show stopper
- I don't know how many potential Riv Rally attendees are also GLR
riders. The GLR schedule also has events 5/19 (200-
Nitto measures that distance at the center of the handlebar, not along the top,
so a 10 cm Nitto stem is a bit longer than anybody else's 10 cm stem. Measure
from the center line of the quill to the back of the bar, then add half the bar
diameter.
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Lots of others have spoken eloquently about why the miles and the
suffering. I can only say, "ditto." I love riding bicycles, and the more
time I spend on a bicycle, the happier I am. Sure, there are points where
you get tired and sore, so you rest for a bit and recover. It's amazing to
me how
Sorry I'm a bit late to this thread. I did the writeup that was on the Riv
site for a while. Others have really improved on my instructions.
>
>
One thing I discovered in the last couple of years. It's a lot easier, and
I think cleaner, to do the tops and bottoms of the bars separately. I work
f
My problem with WTB saddles is the back is too flat (side to side),
giving that sensation of it being too wide between the legs.
The saddle I've recently discovered, thanks to Sean at Rawland, is the
Afton Classic from Dimension. You can have your local LBS order one
from QBP, or find a place on t
On Dec 27, 7:16 pm, Ken Mattina wrote:
> Find someone that rides at your speed and stay with them.
I strongly second this, with a warning. Don't be tempted to fall in
with some people who are just a bit faster than your comfort zone. My
first 200K I did that, in a 30-40mph headwind, and it bl
Sometimes we Wisconsinites get to steal a nice ride in January. Sunny
and 20's today, with a north wind but not too bad. First outdoor, non-
commuting ride of the year. I took the opportunity to bring my Canon
5D with my Christmas present - a Voigtlander Ultron 40/f2 - and snap
some winter scenes,
On Feb 2, 11:01 am, Mike wrote:
> Beautiful bike. What's the story on it?
Quick story is it's a prototype Bleriot (Protovelo) that was converted
to S&S coupled by Bilenky.
More photos and details, but with some different parts (and green
grass!):
http://homepage.mac.com/teddurant/Travelo/Travelo
On Feb 12, 1:26 pm, rcnute wrote:
> Hi, folks: Anyone know the geometry of the early Heron models? Just
> curious about my Road (which is great!). Thanks a lot.
Not sure how this will translate to email formatting.
RoadHeron SizeHeadSeatRakeBB Drop Chain Stay TT
On Mar 16, 11:10 am, Jan Heine wrote:
> At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at the statistics
> and figuring out whether helmets make riding safer, whether risk
> compensation really is a factor, etc
As somebody who makes his living being dangerous with statistics, let
me gently wa
More than the weight comment, I usually get the "how old is that
bike?" when I'm riding my custom Riv with downtube shifters. You know,
it's the downtube shifters that really throw them off. Anyway, I
always enjoy telling them how it's practically brand new.
A couple of weeks ago, under the influe
> >http://www.wastedlife.org/bike/harlequin/index.html
>
As the author of the directions that useta be on the RBW site, and a
veteran of many crappy wrap jobs compared to the pix people have
posted here, I can recommend those directions.
Getting the wrap started is the first hard thing, and I lik
On Jan 20, 7:25 am, rperks wrote:
> Another trick I have read in the past, hold the brake handle clamp in
> place with a piece of strapping or other tape, remove the lever, ...
Yes! I should have mentioned this. I just use a piece of the tape
that's being used to wrap the bars, which has always
> On Jan 26, 8:28 am, GeorgeS wrote:
>
> > I have a Suntor Crane GS and a Suntor Cyclone. Will either of these
> > work with a modern 9-speed cassette?
Isn't that a Shimano Crane?
The lateral throw is questionable, but only experimenting will tell
you for sure. Of course, you can always just re
> Can I put "8 speed" spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and
> simply leave off the smallest cog?
I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the topic,
http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html
In particular, go to the table halfway down, which lists the cog and
spacer thicknesses for everythin
On Feb 10, 10:07 am, Adam DeFayette wrote:
> I'm looking for a new reading chair. Are there any legendary chairs
> out there, known for comfort, ergonomics, design?
Along the lines of the Stickley/Morris chairs, we have 2 of these:
http://www.ethanallen.com/product?productId=894&categoryId=8367
On Mar 8, 5:23 pm, newenglandbike wrote:
> that being said, steel certainly wouldnt've done that,
> although the guy probably would've gone OTB hard.
I don't think we have enough evidence to say that steel wouldn't have
done that. On the other hand, I think we can safely say that a st
+1 on the vote for Roadeo. If you're not carrying more than food and
arm warmers, that's the way I'd go.
Unless you have the money and patience for a custom Riv Road.
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Time for some spring cleaning. I'll take some pictures, if needed. Any
reasonable offer will be accepted ... they've been gathering dust for
a while, and I'm not looking to make a killing on somebody's
nostalgia. That said, some of it could be viewed as "collectible".
Tiny Frames:
Bridgestone XO-1
On Aug 28, 9:33 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Seriously though, I suspect this (and set up costs) to be the
> culprit. GP's write up said he really had to sweat the weight. D/t
> mounts are surprisingly heavy little buggers.
? I happen to have one of those buggers right here, sitting on a
posta
'nother data point ... I'm 5' 7" and 125, well, more like 120
currently. I wear size small in the old brown version of MUSA pants
and find them to be just right, with a fair amount of the elastic belt
cut off. I use them very often for commuting when it gets down to the
mid 50's, all the way down
Ditto on the suggestion for B17 owners to spend time playing with the
tilt if you're having sliding trouble. The right tilt appears to be
very much a function of how upright your position is. More upright,
more nose up. I don't have a particularly upright position - handlebar
tops a bit below saddl
On Aug 21, 4:01 pm, William wrote:
> and the listing for THE ONE is now gone. Best of luck to the
> lucky individual that bought it.
Yup, as of 5:00pm Friday it was sold. I agonized over it alll day
Saturday and was somewhat relieved to find out it was no longer
available. The last thing I n
On Sep 13, 5:23 pm, Seth Vidal wrote:
> I doubt I was dealing with the owner unless the owner is in his
> early/mid 20s.
Andy's definitely not that, but as the owner he sets the tone for the
shop. Personally, I wasn't surprised to read your story. In my
experience and talking to others, what you
> "Sir, you might want to raise your seat a bit
> so you'll get more leverage."
More leverage from a higher saddle? I'd like to see the physics that
validates that assertion.
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> http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/09/sowhat-do-ya-think.html
Maybe I should dust off my drawings for a lugged crank and send it to
them.
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> Because a lot of Riv discussion seems to focus on pedaling free and
> finding the perfect pedal for doing so, is there some reason BMX-style
> pedals aren't more frequently considered?
The biggest issues I think people have with BMX pedals are weight and
cornering clearance. Obviously, the wide
I like the fact that it's the only one that's selling.
Well, my condolences to the seller, of course, but I think it says a
lot about what Grant has accomplished in the last 20 years.
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My hobby is work, so I can afford to buy more stuff from Rivendell.
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On May 1, 4:18 pm, Jeff Feldstein wrote:
> Apparently these folks throw some pipe insulation on their bikes and throw
> it on the plane.
I've done it with my Quickbeam. When I arrived at the other end, I
stowed the pipe insulation in a bag, put on the pedals, straightened
the bars, and rode to
> What should I not miss in Chicago? Interests: art, architecture,
> museums, bike shops/builders, local beer/food, bookstores, interesting
> neighborhoods, dive bars, good places to run. I have all next weekend
> to do whatever, so I'm looking to fill up those days.
>
The weather has been pretty
Hi folks -
A couple of college classmates are hoping to be able to do some riding
when we meet in Northfield, MN, next month for college reunion. Is
there a shop in the Twin Cities area that would rent decent road bikes
to them for the weekend?
Thanks,
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> I'm interested in what you said about the 'fancy' pedals w/ sealed
> bearings, nice machining etc. and I was wondering if you could turn me
> onto some specific models
I have Tioga Surefoot 8 pedals on the Travelo and like them. The
quality is very high, and they're pretty light. I put 4 pins on
My favorite part is "...how long can this go on?" as the train is
going by. Very nice!
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http://www.tunicatrails.org/VIDEO/rougeroubaix2009.html
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All the debate over whether the top finishers would have hurt their
times by riding country bikes, imho, turns the point around 180
degrees. My reaction to the video is, "What a beautiful ride. Shame
they had to ruin it by having a race."
My second reaction is, they spent all that money on those
On Mar 12, 10:06 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
\> i don't get this. most race routes do make for beautiful rides.
and
> the roads are there for anyone to ride, whenever they want and whether
> they race or not. Maybe were all just disillusioned by what bicycle
> racing has become - the drugs, the ad
On Mar 14, 11:59 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
> i maintain that a compact double and
> 28s would do just fine on rouge-roubaix - thus, my contrary opinion to
> the title of this thread.
Well, since I created the thread and its title, I'll take the
opportunity to clarify. In fact, a compact double a
A search of the group archives indicates there's been no discussion of
_Into Thick Air_ by Jim Malusa. I found it a very interesting read,
not just because of the bike content. Anybody else read it?
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I have a Waterford-build Riv mountain bike. It's made of 753 tubing
and has the A/R crown. The original plan was to have MB-0 type forks,
but it turned out to be way too hard to bend the fork blade to fit the
crown Grant had made. Too bad - I saw a prototype and it was truly
amazing to behold.
I
PariMortos are subjectively the fastest tires I have ridden. But they should be
very similar to Compass tires, being ultra light tires made by Panaracer.
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While you are looking up bicycle items on Wikipedia, look up bicycle handlebars
and look for a photo of drop bars with a weave tape job.
It's the UrHeron.
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My Protovelo is clear coated, except around the couplers where Bilenky managed
to find a remarkably effective paint color. It has seen extensive commuting
duty on salt encrusted streets in Wisconsin. It is starting to show some rust
by one of the couplers and at the dropouts. Nothing worse than
That happened to me with an MKS pedal. When I told Grant, his response was,
"Oh, so you understand the theory of beeswax but not the application of it!"
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 7:07:21 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
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> Hugh:
>
> I've had shimmies with my 58cm Atlantis. Oddly enough, and contrary to
> accepted wisdom, mine was induced by a moderate rear load.
>
+1. That has been my experience, too, on Heron Road bikes (700C as spec'd
and 650
On Thursday, April 17, 2014 1:08:22 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> Anyone here own a low-trail/ lightest tubing bike?
>
> ...
>
Do you find them really that much better performing (faster, flexier,
> planier, efficient) than your "oversized" steel tubing bikes, as I have
> read about in reviews
> Found this all-original 1983 Fuji Touring Series on eBay
What a beautiful find! Love the chromed fork crown. I worked in a Fuji
shop in the late 70's/early 80's, and my first bikes were Fuji's. One of
these days I'm going to restore my old Fuji America that's gathering dust
in my father's g
I am really pleased to see that frame getting the love it deserves!
Ted Durant
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On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 2:21:20 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> So here's my questions. I'm well aware of the fact that what I like to do
> on a tour isn't what a lot of other people would like to do. I look for
> single track and dirt roads, don't mind rough terrain and not showering f
Another very happy user here. I have two boxy bags and two racks. I also have a
Berthoud medium bag on a decaleur on another bike. The Berthoud is only
marginally bigger. The boxy bag is plenty big for a brevet unless I need a lot
of spare clothing, in which case the Berthoud is too small, too.
On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 10:34:36 PM UTC-5, dstein wrote:
>
> Does extra weight on the handlebars affect steering more than if it sits
> lower on like a mark's rack?
>
I'm sure there are real engineers or physicists on the list who will say
I'm out of my depth ... but my answer is that
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:42:55 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>
> Has anyone with issues similar to mine switched over to a Berthoud saddle
> and felt some improvement?
>
I had a bunch of B17's over the years, most of which developed pretty large
twists, and all of which tended to cause
On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Jay: I think there were several iterations of the Heron; Rivendell had it
> made for a while by Waterford, and then sold the rights to I-forget-who who
> in turn sold them to Todd Kuzma.
>
> Heron Bicycles was originally
m/photos/ronatd/albums/72157674363540271
Based on today's ride, I raised the stem and flipped over the bars. I think I
will end up putting Choco bars on it.
Another detail that is a bit of a bummer - the pump peg placement requires a
shorter pump than my HPX3.
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> How did you run that wire to the tailight?
The wire runs under the down tube, under the bottom bracket and up the back
side of the seat tube. Just above the lateral tube junction it runs over to the
seat stay bridge. Black electrical tape and black zip ties are used to secure
it. Long term, t
More photos at the Flickr album:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ronatd/albums/72157674363540271
> What about from the headlight to the downtube how do you get it to the
> downtube?
In this photo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ronatd/30555685791/in/album-72157674363540271/
you can see the
On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:45:30 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
> I'm considering as a winter project, rebuilding my Riv Redwood as a
> low-trail 700c bike...My main question is this: What rake would be
> appropriate for this 700c bike running Compass Barlow Pass (38mm) tires?
> Headt
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 3:42:40 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
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> Did they once make a stock Road in that size? It also has a Joe Starck
> serial coding on the bottom bracket.
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All Rivendell-brand frames are essentially custom. In the beginning, there
were the Road, the All-Rounder,
I don't really believe there's such thing as a perfect bike ... but that
sure is close! Makes me think I'll have to have my Travelo painted the
original Bleriot colors some day.
Need drive train side photos!
Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA
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Somebody needs to buy this bike! For those who are wondering about fit,
here's what we published on the original Heron web site.
Sizing By Saddle Height
Saddle HeightHeron RoadHeron Touring
*66* 52 *won't fit*
*67* 52 53
*68* 52/54 53
*69* 54 53/55
*70* 54 54
*71* 54/56 55
*72* 56 55/57
*73* 56
Lots of good advice, but allow me to add a couple of additional personal
observations.
First one echoes the comment about trying to hang with some RAAM riders… I
did the same thing on my first 200km brevet and DNF'd. Now, it was between
35 and 40 degrees, and the wind was blowing about 30-40 mp
I've ridden many km's over the last few years with a
randonneuring/commuting buddy, and I try hard to emulate his remarkable
poise and grace in the face of absurd driver behavior. He just smiles and
waves at everyone, regardless of whether they've been polite or impolite.
Based on your descrip
It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic
Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy.
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Wherever your marriage is going, you will get there faster on a tandem.
29 years after our 2 week honeymoon in Vermont on our Santana, we are still
riding.
Ted (and Beth) Durant
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My experience with Herons, Quickbeam, and Bleriot is that adding any kind of
saddlebag weight increases shimmy propensity. The most stable handling I have
found, and it's remarkably stable, is all the weight up front, a little in the
handlebar bag and most of it in a pair of panniers at the hub
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