RE: Grub question

2003-10-22 Thread Otto Haliburton
You can get the grub manual at www.gnu.org. Use that to setup your floppy and mba. I'm not sure why you want to do what you are doing, but as I said get the manual. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Felipe Leon >

Grub question

2003-10-22 Thread Felipe Leon
Group, I decided to eliminate grub from the mba of the hardrive where windows resides, so I could just boot to linux using a floppy. Obviously I wanted grub on a floppy so what I did was (read it somewhere) to dd the files stage1 and stage2 from /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/ to the floppy

Re: GRUB question

2003-10-15 Thread Samuel Flory
Susan Champigny wrote: Grub is not a favorite of mine, I prefer lilo, so I am hoping someone out there can help w/ the following. I initially installed lilo, and was having boot problems, so I editted /grub/grub.conf. This particular system has and ide, and scsi disk, scsi being the disk w

grub do not start

2003-10-15 Thread Alessandro Fiorenzi
Hi, we have had a problem on one scsi disk of raid, so we bave rebuild it but the sistem does not start. Looking for a solution on google we have come to get the grub shell by witch we can start the sistem. The problem seems to be that grub does not read grub.conf and get only the grub shell

Re: GRUB question

2003-10-14 Thread Edward Dekkers
Susan Champigny wrote: Grub is not a favorite of mine, I prefer lilo, so I am hoping someone out there can help w/ the following. I initially installed lilo, and was having boot problems, so I editted /grub/grub.conf. This particular system has and ide, and scsi disk, scsi being the disk w

Re: GRUB question

2003-10-14 Thread Phil Savoie
Hi Susan, What you are looking for is the command: grub-install /dev/hda for ide booting disk or grub-install /dev/sd0 for a scsi booting disk Regards, Phil Savoie On Tuesday 14 October 2003 08:50, Susan Champigny wrote: > Grub is not a favorite of mine, I prefer l

GRUB question

2003-10-14 Thread Susan Champigny
Grub is not a favorite of mine, I prefer lilo, so I am hoping someone out there can help w/ the following. I initially installed lilo, and was having boot problems, so I editted /grub/grub.conf. This particular system has and ide, and scsi disk, scsi being the disk w/ the OS, and ide disk w

Re: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Reuben D. Budiardja
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 01:03 pm, Otto Haliburton wrote: > This is news to me. I didn't know that windows would even boot from a > slave drive. Good info if it is true. Yes it would. I've done what is basically the describe by Ed using LILO. If you need it, I can probably find the lilo.con

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Rene Enriquez
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Croft Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:48 AM To: Red Hat List Subject: RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader. On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:37, Otto Haliburton wrote: > You are saying h

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Otto Haliburton
Good info! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Edward Croft > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:48 PM > To: Red Hat List > Subject: RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader. > > On Tue, 2003-09

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Edward Croft
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:37, Otto Haliburton wrote: > You are saying here that if it was the C:\ drive(confusing). I think that > win98, winME etc. aren't able to configure with any drive letter other than > c, but winNT and win2k can. I don't know that winXP can so I hope that what > you are say

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Otto Haliburton
gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Edward Croft > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:21 PM > To: Red Hat List > Subject: RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader. > > I have had this setup working for over a year now. > > On Tu

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Tony Pagliocco
/2003 10:21 AM To: Red Hat List Cc: Subject:RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader. I have had this setup working for over a year now. On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:03, Otto Haliburton wrote: > This is news to me. I didn't know that windows would even boot from a

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Edward Croft
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Edward Croft > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:55 AM > > To: Red Hat List > > Subject: Re: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader. > > > > > > On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 12:16, Joan Carles Jim

Re: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread R.E.
look belowJoan Carles Jimenez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi!I'm currently running RHL 9 on one hard disk (master). My boot loader is Grub. Now, I installed Windows XP (NTFS) in other hard disk (slave). The Grub detects the two operating systems but, when I select Windows XP, this do

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Otto Haliburton
t List > Subject: Re: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader. > > > On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 12:16, Joan Carles Jimenez wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I'm currently running RHL 9 on one hard disk (master). My boot loader is > Grub. Now, I installed Windows X

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Otto Haliburton
2003 11:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader. > > > > >From most dual boot machines using Grub, Windows usually has to go first. > Since RH is much more relaxed then XP, I've usually seen RH second either > on

Re: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Edward Croft
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 12:16, Joan Carles Jimenez wrote: > Hi! > > I'm currently running RHL 9 on one hard disk (master). My boot loader is Grub. Now, > I installed Windows XP (NTFS) in other hard disk (slave). The Grub detects the two > operating systems but, when I sel

RE: I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Tony Pagliocco
>From most dual boot machines using Grub, Windows usually has to go first. Since RH is much more relaxed then XP, I've usually seen RH second either on the 2nd partition or slave drive. Since the MBR is real fussy it likes to have windows going first then find RH. It maybe able to be

I can't boot Windows XP with Grub loader.

2003-09-30 Thread Joan Carles Jimenez
Hi! I'm currently running RHL 9 on one hard disk (master). My boot loader is Grub. Now, I installed Windows XP (NTFS) in other hard disk (slave). The Grub detects the two operating systems but, when I select Windows XP, this does not boot. What's the problem? Thanks. Joan Carl

RE: grub boot order question

2003-09-17 Thread Ian L
bject: grub boot order question this is in my grub.conf file: #boot=/dev/hda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-20.8) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.8 ro root=LABEL=/ initrd /initrd-2.4.20-20.8.img

RE: grub boot order question

2003-09-17 Thread Go, Jeffrey
Ian, Someone correct me if I am wrong...but you can just comment out the image you don't want it to boot to, and you should be fine.. jeff -Original Message- From: Ian L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: grub boot

Re: GRUB install on hard drive

2003-09-16 Thread Michael Mansour
--- Y-Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about use the following two steps, > > 1. Boot Linux use "linux rescue" > 2. input command "chroot /mnt/sysimage" > 3. input command "grub-install /dev/sda", where > /dev/sda/ is the boot >

Re: grub boot order question

2003-09-16 Thread Ian L
At 05:40 PM 9/16/2003, you wrote: > this is in my grub.conf file: > if i change default=0 that should boot with the 2.4.20-20.8 kernel yes? Yes but that's not the approved way to do it. It's safer to do: grubby --set-default=/boot/vmlinuz-$version (replace $version but the version number

RE: grub boot order question

2003-09-16 Thread Otto Haliburton
After a 10 second delay. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian L > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: grub boot order question > > this is in my grub.c

Re: grub boot order question

2003-09-16 Thread Ian Mortimer
> this is in my grub.conf file: > if i change default=0 that should boot with the 2.4.20-20.8 kernel yes? Yes but that's not the approved way to do it. It's safer to do: grubby --set-default=/boot/vmlinuz-$version (replace $version but the version number 2.4.20-20.8 in your case). -- I

grub boot order question

2003-09-16 Thread Ian L
this is in my grub.conf file: #boot=/dev/hda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-20.8) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.8 ro root=LABEL=/ initrd /initrd-2.4.20-20.8.img title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-14

Re: GRUB install on hard drive

2003-09-15 Thread Kelerion
I'm not that good with grub.. but can't you boot from floppy and type "grub-install /dev/sda" or "grub-install /dev/md0"? or am I missing some point here.. Cheers Kel Michael Mansour wrote: Hi, I built a box last night with the following config: 4x 9gb

Re: GRUB install on hard drive

2003-09-15 Thread Y-Z
How about use the following two steps, 1. Boot Linux use "linux rescue" 2. input command "chroot /mnt/sysimage" 3. input command "grub-install /dev/sda", where /dev/sda/ is the boot disk with MBR. I suppose that u installed windows on /dev/sda Z. He Michael Manso

GRUB install on hard drive

2003-09-15 Thread Michael Mansour
grub.conf I created a Linux software raid 1 mirror and installed Red Hat Linux 8.0. Also made this a primary partition. I seemingly mistakenly installed grub on /dev/sdb. When booting the machine, Windows 2000 automatically boots, when what I really want is for grub's menu to kick in and allow

RE: Grub Problem,

2003-09-03 Thread Otto Haliburton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Grub Problem, > > Ron, it sounds like the problem is with Partition Magic and Windows. > You may have to reinstall windows. This is not a grub or linux > problem. > Some useful information to include in your post would be the contents > of &

Re: Grub Problem,

2003-09-03 Thread Vincent E Parsons
Ron, it sounds like the problem is with Partition Magic and Windows. You may have to reinstall windows. This is not a grub or linux problem. Some useful information to include in your post would be the contents of your grub.conf and fstab/or the output of df. Make sure you have a linux bootdisk

Grub Problem,

2003-09-03 Thread Ron Lev
Hi All, I have installed Redhat 8 on a PC with windowsXP running on already and used GRUB as a boot loader, till I tried to convert my windows partition from NTFS to FAT32 using Partition magic. Now the windows doesn’t boot it just goes back to the GRUB menu, the linux is up and running no

RE: Dual-boot RH9/Windows XP using GRUB

2003-09-02 Thread Otto Haliburton
Windows never honors other boot loaders in the mbr and will overwrite them on a install. so you need to reinstall GRUB and that should fix you up. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Haney > Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Dual-boot RH9/Windows XP using GRUB

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Haney
So how did you come by this problem? Why was RH not installed with GRUB at the beginning? To tell you the truth, I had this very same issue not long ago, when I upgraded my laptop (RH9/Win2K) to XP. It blew away GRUB but I followed the instructions in the RH9 manual and got it up and running

RE: Dual-boot RH9/Windows XP using GRUB

2003-08-30 Thread Otto Haliburton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Devil's Advocate > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Dual-boot RH9/Windows XP using GRUB > > Hi all, >

Dual-boot RH9/Windows XP using GRUB

2003-08-30 Thread The Devil's Advocate
Hi all, I have Redhat 9 and Windows XP installed on the same system, and at the moment I am using a boot floppy to boot into Redhat. I tried to install GRUB on the MBR by running /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda but when I rebooted the system, I am dumped at the grub> prompt. I tried us

Re: RH 9.0 Lilo and GRUB

2003-08-25 Thread Marcos S. Trazzini
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 19:31, fabian barco wrote: > Hi, > > I have RH 9.0, I installed workstation. > > How can I uninstall GRUB and then install LILO as my boot loader? > > what is map file /boot/System.map... > what is ram disk? > what is ram disk image? /boot/init

RH 9.0 Lilo and GRUB

2003-08-25 Thread fabian barco
Hi, I have RH 9.0, I installed workstation. How can I uninstall GRUB and then install LILO as my boot loader? what is map file /boot/System.map... what is ram disk? what is ram disk image? /boot/initrd-#? thanks. feb. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Otto Haliburton
oblem. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert C. Paulsen Jr. > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: kernel update and grub > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:54:09AM

Re: kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Robert C. Paulsen Jr.
t; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: kernel update and grub > > > > hi! > > > > Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs > > for the update, I just see an errormessage about "not enough space on > > /boot". This most pr

RE: kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Otto Haliburton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asbjorn Hoiland Aarrestad > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: kernel update and grub > > hi! > > Just got word ab

Re: kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
This most probably because I have been installing a couple of > kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. > > I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed > > > How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? rpm --query 'kernel*'

Beta 10 & Grub

2003-08-21 Thread Tony Preston
nd I don't want to mess with updating the world (Have to use the old kernel for some work stuff). I am having a bit of trouble with GRUB. I have 2 RH, Win ME, and memtest86 setup on the GRUB menu. Grub has worked fine for this up till the Beta 10 install. I have two HDs, hda and hdb,

Re: kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Andre ten Bohmer
ally using up2date, and never deleted anything. > >> > >>I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed > >>How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? > >> > >> > >First I used "rpm -e" to remove the old kernel(s) but that caused so

Re: kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Asbjorn Hoiland Aarrestad
2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? First I used "rpm -e" to remove the old kernel(s) but that caused some problems. So yust quick and dirty, I've removed all files (config, initrd, module-i

Re: kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Andre ten Bohmer
never deleted anything. > > I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed > How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? First I used "rpm -e" to remove the old kernel(s) but that caused some problems. So yust quick and dirty, I've removed all files (config, initrd, module

kernel update and grub

2003-08-21 Thread Asbjorn Hoiland Aarrestad
g. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? - asbjørn -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list

Re: HELP -- Grub on a floppy!

2003-08-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
John Aldrich wrote: I recently reinstalled RedHat 9 from scratch. Thinking it would be good to have a boot-floppy, I said "yes" when prompted to make a boot floppy. Now, I realize, that was really asking if I wanted to make a boot floppy INSTEAD of installing GRUB on the /dev/hda. I d

Re: Installing GRUB over NTLDR help (solved)

2003-08-18 Thread Marcos de Souza Trazzini
Alternativaly, you can run the grub-install script and point it directly to th "/dev" reference of the hard-disk. In Example, if you want to install grub into the MBR of the "/dev/hda" disk, type te following command: "grub-install /dev/hda" WARN: This comman

Re: Installing GRUB over NTLDR help (solved)

2003-08-18 Thread Marc Boorshtein
Hate to reply to my own post, but I found the problem. I didn't realize that grub-install was segfaulting. I had to use mkbootdisk to create a boot disk which I use to boot into linux, where I ran grub-install '(hd0)' which fixed everything. Marc On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 09:08,

Installing GRUB over NTLDR help

2003-08-18 Thread Marc Boorshtein
Hello, I tried installing w2k3 server on a second hardrive on my laptop. The install failed, but it installed NTLDR over grub. I used the RH9 cd as a rescue cd, chrooted to /mnt/sysimage and ran grub-isntall '(hd1,1)', but it didn't seem to work. I tried booting to a win98

RE: HELP -- Grub on a floppy!

2003-08-15 Thread Otto Haliburton
Go to GNU.org and get the GRUB manual. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Aldrich > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: HELP -- Grub on a floppy! > > I rec

HELP -- Grub on a floppy!

2003-08-15 Thread John Aldrich
I recently reinstalled RedHat 9 from scratch. Thinking it would be good to have a boot-floppy, I said "yes" when prompted to make a boot floppy. Now, I realize, that was really asking if I wanted to make a boot floppy INSTEAD of installing GRUB on the /dev/hda. How do I get it to

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-08 Thread Jack Bowling
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 12:33:26PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Otto Haliburton wrote: > > >I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB GRUB > >is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the XP > >boot loader. I just re

Re:: GRUB failure

2003-08-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: This was posted in a precious email. Yes. *previous* -- H| I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner . 303.442.6410 x130 IT D

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-07 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Jack Bowling wrote: Hi, Ashley. Sorry to butt my head in so late. When you yanked the 2nd drive, did you go into the BIOS and tell it that it no longer exists? This was posted in a precious email. Yes. -- H| I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +--

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-06 Thread Otto Haliburton
Last time around. It appears that stage2 never gets called nor stage1_5 (I don't even see how it gets setup to call, but if it were called it definitely prints a message GRUB is loading). Also it appears that there is no error in stage1. So I don't believe that Ashley's problem

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Michael Schwendt wrote: - is BIOS set to LBA? Last I checked, it was. - does grub-install with --force-lba work? No errors. - does LILO work? Ain't trying that. The server is up and running as it should be, and I can't take it down in the name of science right now.

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:16:46 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > I dont have the RH 7.2 version of > the grub source to look at. Might have 7.1 levels. The MBR > is probably the same. > If you have source - What does it do after printing

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure > > > They both are there trust me. In RH8/9 > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin > >

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
They both are there trust me. In RH8/9 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure >

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
ROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:43:38 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > >

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> > > > Now Mike, This is not Fair! You cant keep changing the > > nomenclature > > like this, It just confuses my poor little brain... > > I thut I thaw a put-tee tat.. > > GRUB in MBR does not care at all whether the _next_ stage is the >

Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:43:38 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > I thought Kudzu was replaced by Anaconda I dont recall > seeing it on my RH 8/9 systems > but I may have been asleep at the console at the time... Kudzu and Anaconda are two separate thi

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Kenneth Goodwin wrote: Oh, BTW I skipped from 7.1 to 8.0 and rapidly from there to 9.0 I went 5.2 -> 6.2 -> 7.3 - and currently I have only one machine that has 8 on it. None has 9... -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +--

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> > >I thought Kudzu was replaced by Anaconda I dont recall > >seeing it on my RH 8/9 systems > >but I may have been asleep at the console at the time... > > > > > You skipped a post somewhere...the machine has 7.3 on it. > > actually i missed all the early ones and said so. I only j

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
my poor little brain... > I thut I thaw a put-tee tat.. GRUB in MBR does not care at all whether the _next_ stage is the final stage as found in file /boot/grub/stage2 or whether it is an intermediate stage that loads another stage. So, in the stage1 source code they call the next stag

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Kenneth Goodwin wrote: I thought Kudzu was replaced by Anaconda I dont recall seeing it on my RH 8/9 systems but I may have been asleep at the console at the time... You skipped a post somewhere...the machine has 7.3 on it. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
t 04, 2003 3:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure > > > Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > > >yOU DONT GET A BOOT time MESSAGE ABOUTING CHECKING FOR new > >hardware? > > > > > That's kudzu's job, and it&#

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
or little brain... I thut I thaw a put-tee tat.. So lets see, no stage 1.5 unless you are reading the grub manual by the light of the full moon under a pear tree, divide by 27, carry the 2, divide again by four and multiply by PI R-squared to the Nth power. Lets seehm

Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Kenneth Goodwin wrote: yOU DONT GET A BOOT time MESSAGE ABOUTING CHECKING FOR new hardware? That's kudzu's job, and it's been long removed. (So the answer to your question is no, I don't.) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
ginal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ashley M. Kirchner > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > > Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > > >what I am saying is that the MBR may be craf

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > > This is different from the setup Ashley has but the results are the > same. I don't exactly know what that means but it certainly means > something. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
stating that, sorry if I added to further confusion here, but the correction does not change anything other than to definitively prove your/our point that Drive B is not an issue in regards to GRUB. It is a side effect of it's removal from the IDE Bus that is behind your mystery and nothing e

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SH

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> > > what I am saying is that the MBR may be crafted or rebuild > > by anaconda for the two drive setup disk info. > > It's grub-install/grub that creates stage1 based on the grub.conf > created by anaconda. > > > "Grub-install". which I have

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:03:08 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > Phase 1.5 - Grub OS Loader Part one (OS filesystem > selector) Knows? os fs structures That one would give considerably more status/error output, in particular: "GRUB load

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:06:19 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > >If it doesn't print > >an error message, it has loaded and jumped into stage2 either with > >LBA or CHS geometry. > > > > > I'm curious, where does stage1_5 come into play, if what

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Michael Schwendt wrote: If it doesn't print an error message, it has loaded and jumped into stage2 either with LBA or CHS geometry. I'm curious, where does stage1_5 come into play, if what you're suggesting is that it jumps from stage1 to stage2? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
Otto we are not on the same page, perhaps this will help. This is (perhaps) my (MIS)Understanding that from having written and worked with such bootloaders but not personal expertise with GRUB That Grub is organized in a manner such as - Phase 1 - Grub MBR 512 byte initial boot loader

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 12:33:26 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Otto Haliburton wrote: > > >I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB GRUB > >is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along w

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Otto Haliburton wrote: You've never said (that I can remember ) what version of RH you are running. 7.3 Also I want to note that it is not a foregone conclusion that it calls stage1_5. So we don't know how far it gets into the process, it seems it would print an error message if it discovered

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
If it is an old version then you may not be running the new version of GRUB. But in the manual there is a procedure you can thru to manually reinstall GRUB interactively. The manual says that stage1 does some things before it calls stage1_5 or stage2. Also I want to note that it is not a f

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Otto Haliburton wrote: I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB GRUB is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the XP boot loader. I just removed HDB and guess what I got a black screen with GRUB in the left hand corner. Welcome to my

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Kenneth Goodwin wrote: what I am saying is that the MBR may be crafted or rebuild by anaconda for the two drive setup disk info. Anaconda may not be able to go backwards here, may not be able to undo in a return to single drive configuration - most people add hardware, not remove it, it may have n

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
Monday, August 04, 2003 1:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB > GRUB > is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the > XP > boot loader. I just removed HDB a

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB GRUB is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the XP boot loader. I just removed HDB and guess what I got a black screen with GRUB in the left hand corner. > -Original Message- > From:

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Kenneth Goodwin wrote: 1 - this system had two IDE drives in it at Linux installation time. A (the MASTER) and B (The Slave), There is no SCSI, NO RAID, no LVM. just a simple plain vanilla LINUX setup. Nope. The machine had ONE drive upon installation. hdb wasn't added till months later

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:39:54 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > what I am saying is that the MBR may be crafted or rebuild > by anaconda for the two drive setup disk info. It's grub-install/grub that creates stage1 based on the grub.conf

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> > I think this goes too far, and I don't see what it would change. > IIRC, it has been mentioned that grub-install works flawlessly when > slave drive is available and even when slave drive is removed and > system is booted with bootdisk. However, the newly written GRUB

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
This is why you need to read the manual. GRUB does know the file structures for the OS it boots the kernel for otherwise it chain loads the boot loader for the other OS's. Remember what GRUB stands for. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-lis

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> > > > BIOS loads and starts the code from master boot record, but code in > > MBR fails to load stage1.5 which is located at a fixed position on > > hda. At that point, GRUB does not even know about > "directories" yet, > > since it is this later

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:26:05 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > ASHLEY - Your grub issue may be that > > grub-install may only install an already compiled and loaded > version of the > MBR phase one piece. YOU MAy have to do a GRUB Ma

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> > >To those of you, who have the theory that GRUB is loading stage1 > > and can't load stage2 answer the question, "how it can > find stage1 and > > then can't find stage2?", when both are in the same GRUB > directory. It > > can no

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
By your response you have failed to read the GRUB manual. I will say no further until you read it. Some points I will concede up to 11. Stage 1 is hard coded in the mbr or track 0. It is 512 bytes. It loads stage1_5 which can be located behind the MBR or in "boot" partition or it loa

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> - set hda's jumper back to master otherwise BIOS > complains and won't > boot > - shoved floppy in, booted up just fine > - ran grub-install /dev/hda, no errors > - removed floppy, reboot > - BIOS finds hda, knows there's no hdb, g

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
installed in its entirety along with grub as the boot loader onto Drive A 3 - NOTHING was loaded onto Drive B at time of linux installation. 4 - Drive B was later used to store files and such. 5 - GRUB NEVER used any part of DRIVE B at any time during it's lifetime It ONLY used the conten

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
ssing enough to confuse grub phase 1 The only real concrete suggestion possible here is to make sure your motherboard and the drives ide controller firmware are all up to the latest revision levels. Dont assume just because you bought it a short tiem ago it will be because it might have been on the

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-04 Thread Otto Haliburton
rton > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > > > > Otto, you may be missing this point.. > > Grub isn't loading anything. > > Bios is loading the MBR from the drive. > > this mbr.. part

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