d6jg wrote:
It may be the multi disc setting. I have a compilation that I digitised
from vinyl years ago. It was one of my earliest attempts. The software I
used split the tracks into folders by artist. None of the tracks have
compilation tag set. The album title is identical but LMS sees it
I agree that mp3tag is pretty easy to pick up for simple operations like
this. But mp3tag can be very powerful, so make sure you have a current
backup of your music library before you start fixing the tags in mp3tag.
Having a current backup is always a good idea anyway.
LMS can do what you want quite easily. What I don't think anyone has
mentioned yet is that there's a setting in LMS about whether or not to
treat multi-disc albums as a single album. Sorry, but I don't have LMS
in front of me to give you the specific tab and location within LMS
settings.
The
Does the platform/OS matter? Since you mention MediaMonkey does that
mean you want a Windows program?
Actually, if the files are somewhat organized as you say, I would look
first to the standard file management tools in whatever OS you're using.
That seems to me to be the most direct way to
Nonreality wrote:
Spoon probably knows as he owns AccurateRip. :)
Sure, but whatever spoon knows, Daphile is still not listed among the
ripping software on the AccurateRip website (see
http://accuraterip.com/software.htm)
Mnyb wrote:
Any secure ripper that uses accurate-rip gives you verified perfect rips
zero errors in most cases ! Then its about features such as metadata
retrival and other stuff .
Right, but keeping in mind that the condition ...uses accurate-rip...
narrows down the field considerably, as
kipeta wrote:
CD ripper of Daphile (www.daphile.com) support AccurateRip.
Noted. And you may want to contact spoon et al. and have them add
Daphile to the list on their website.
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Presumably the Naim is only using UPnP, and not the other 99.9% of LMS.
Does the ReadyNAS also come with its own UPnP software? If so, why not
try that instead of LMS?
I'm puzzled why FLACs play on the ReadyNAS+Naim combo but WAVs do not.
Anyway, as you said in your original post, the NAS _does_
I haven't seen any ripper that I think is better than dBpoweramp. Or
even close, especially when it comes to handling online metadata
sources.
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BJW wrote:
yes. I believe in stripping all sort tags out. the behavior you
describe is known and documented here and in bugzilla.
to me, it makes sense to simply have AA tags on everything, and then if
you want, add comp=1 tags to comps. its simple and works with
everything, fullproof.
I want to make a new MP3 mirror of my FLAC library using a higher
bitrate than I used previously(*). I plan to use Robin Bowes's
flac2mp3.pl script because I can just let it run for hours (or days) on
my server, rather than using dBpoweramp's batch converter. I've modified
his script slightly to
Fyi, I posted in the dBpoweramp forum (see
http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?31409-dMC-not-recognizing-24-bit-file-can-t-transcode-ALAC-to-FLAC-but-other-software-can),
cross-referencing this thread.
According to spoon, the files are 24-bit, but are encoded incorrectly,
indicating
I haven't, but now you have me curious so I'll give it a try.
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garym wrote:
If you could convert to FLAC with foobar2000 (and this plays ok on SB)
but converting to flac with dbpa doesn't produce a playable flac file,
I suggest you send spoon at dbpa forums the file (with this info) and
have him evaluate it. He's usually happy to investigate this sort
I recently bought Peter Gabriel's Courage (the 'missing' track from
So) from his website, as well as the album And I'll Scratch Yours
(covers of PG songs by various artists whose songs PG covered on
Scratch My Back). The only codec choices were MP3 and Apple Lossless,
so I bought the Apple
Robert57 wrote:
Do you think the character limit has been relaxed in newer versions of
LMS?
It's possible, especially because the 7.5.2 you are using has MySQL as
the backend, whereas newer versions use SQLite. That said, Logitech
could quite possibly have preserved the same constraints on
Are those the actual filenames you are using, or is that the metadata? I
ask because I'm surprised that MacOS would accept a forward slash or a
star (/ *) as valid filename characters. I thought those were reserved
for folders and wildcards, respectively.
Of course, that doesn't explain all
Unless things have changed with more recent versions of LMS, the problem
is that your belief that file location doesn't matter is wrong in this
case. The way it used to work -- I my belief is that it's still the case
-- is that the tracks for a compilation have to be in the same folder to
be
Pieman1972 wrote:
Any links people have found useful - please do share - appreciate the
help so far.
I'm not sure this will work, but it might. Try doing it the other way
around. In the /volume1/music/l_Singles-B folder, make a link to
/volume1/music/B-52's/Odd Singles. Call it something like
jimbobvfr400 wrote:
Good point, my memory may be on the blink but I believe I read somewhere
that [square brackets] at the very least are ignored. I'll have a dig
around and see if I can find where I saw that.
My blinking memory has the same recollection, but I don't remember
_which_
MeSue wrote:
Curse you, iTunes!!!
So it's a -good- thing Apple doesn't recognize FLAC!!
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No, they are MP3 files.
Using MusicBrainz/Picard I can enter multiple values in the tags, but it
seems they are stored as a single value (where the multiple values are
separated by a slash).
But that should work fine if you do as JJZolx outlined. The only
difference is you
What kind of files do you have? You say you want ID3v2 tags, and from
that I hope you have MP3 files. If you have FLAC, then you should be
using Vorbis comments and not ID3v2. It is possible to force ID3v2 tags
into FLAC files, but it's not recommended, at least not with
Squeezeboxes.
What you
th00ht wrote:
I went the Presley, Elvis way for a while but it seems to cumbersome.
No artist in their right mind would state Gabriel, Peter on his/her
album. So I went back to Elvis Presley, Prefab Sprout, Massive Attack,
Steven Wilson, Johann Sebastian Bach, Steve Rai Vaugn . etc. Any
wowo wrote:
I have also the artistsortorder (automatic filled all of my tags with
musicbrainz picard)
But I am still looking for a way that the display do not display Peter
Gabriel under the Gs but as Gabriel, Peter under the Gs.
Is there an easy way to achieve this ?
It should be simple:
Lessram wrote:
You are right, but I did not know ID3-tags are intepreted different by
the squeezebox when used another compression. Be it MP3, FLAC or ALAC.
Besides', within iTunes it's all the same. If I give a song it's tags it
simply works, I never had to make a difference between all
garym wrote:
Do you know how to use ACTIONS in mp3tag? It can automatically add info
from artist tag to album artist tag for 100,000 files with only a couple
of mouse clicks.
But first the OP needs to get a better grip on exactly what he/she wants
to do. Some of the flailing about in the
As it says near the top of the flac2mp3.pl file, you need to either (a)
make sure that the flac executable (flac.exe) is in your path, or (b)
you specify the correct folder location near the top of flac2mp3.pl. I
suggest doing a search for the file flac.exe, and then editing the
flac2mp3.pl file
garym wrote:
aha! good to know. thanks.
No problem. It's easy (preferable?) to have forgotten where it came up
in this little tangent to the Is the Duet obsolete? thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?88083-Is-the-Duet-obsolete/page9
Even though the guy was obnoxious, he was
There supposedly is a standard for writing tags to WAV files -- there is
a link to it buried in these forums, and I can find it if you can't via
a search. It seems to be little-used, but LMS will read it. I believe
the only tagging program that writes tags to WAV using this standard is
Tag
I'd never heard of beets. Looks pretty good.
Anyway, LMS doesn't appear to support the Performer tag at all, as
indicated by your own tests and this somewhat-dated wiki article:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SlimServerSupportedTags. I reckon
your best available workaround is to get your
Julf wrote:
Yes, done that - might just have to do it as a permanent plug-in, so I
don't have to keep doing it every time.
You mean that if you fill the Albumartist field with something of your
choosing, your tagger will wipe it clean when you sync with MB? That
seems awfully heavy-handed.
I
Julf wrote:
OK, removing the compilation tag completely didn't help. But I think my
problem is that my tagging program actually uses the Ogg standard field
performer for album artist - and clearly LMS looks for albumartist
and not performer.
That would probably explain it. Try adding a
garym wrote:
I'm no expert, but Spoon (author of dbpa) has said several times that
there are no Vorbis (Flac) tag standards. Dunno. Regarding online
metadta, dbpa uses a combination of AMG, GD3, MusicBrainz, and freedb to
get the best match on metadata. I don't recall having to ever change
Julf wrote:
Actually, I have noticed a bunch of programs and libraries do an
automatic (and invisible) translation - what you see is albumartist,
what is really stored is performer.
From the evidence in this thread and my personal experience, I would
venture that dbpa and mp3tag (my usual
Mnyb wrote:
But if you sort by year and not the name it will be sorted by year not
the name so albumsort etc have no impact .
The main thing that decides the order in this case is the year or date
tag .
The trick to precede the real name with chars that sort last would work
in the
You still haven't addressed the write-protected part of the error
message or Mnyb's response. What users have read/write permissions on
the share? You should be able to see this from the NAS's gui, or by
doing ls -l if it is Linux-based and you have command line access.
Then, what username is
slartibartfast wrote:
Adding a discnumber to each folder will fix it! First folder 1, second
folder 2 etc.
That, plus making sure that you have LMS set to group multi-disc albums.
I forget exactly where that is in LMS settings, but you do it through
the web interface.
FLAC is definitely out of the question. As far as I know the only format
the iTunes store offers is lossy AAC. I think it's 256mbps. There were
rumors about 18 months ago about iTunes starting to sell lossless
tracks, including 24-bit tracks, but that doesn't seem to have amounted
to anything
w3wilkes wrote:
FLAC is lossless, I would guess if there's a quality issue it would be
from the original media that EAC ripped from.
+1
I would say that there is nothing wrong with EAC from circa 2007. But
the quality of the rips depends not only on the media, but also on the
EAC
stereoptic wrote:
Is there any difference between a 96/24 flac and a 96/24 Apple Lossless
file to the SBT?
The difference is that the SBT can decode the FLAC natively, whereas the
Apple Lossless has to be transcoded by Logitech Media Server. I believe
that under the default settings, LMS
Speckta wrote:
If this message board had a rep function, I'd give you + rep for that
last post. Very well explained.
It does, though I don't think it is used much. Use the little
six-pointed star icon in the lower let corner of the post's frame.
foxx wrote:
In the sense that I did not pay money in order to acquire music which
contains proprietary information which can neither be read nor edited by
the common tag editors.
If the speculation that JJZolx reports is accurate (it seems quite
plausible to me), then it sounds like standard
On the payroll of Apple? Hardly. And why do you ask? Because people had
the termerity to point out that what you thought you were buying may not
be the same as what you actually bought?
As I don't have any such iTunes Store files to experiment on, nor any
AAC (presumably these are AAC) I can't
It sounds as if the files do not have any information in the ALBUM tag.
Use a tag editor to put the correct album title in the album tag. If you
are on Windows then mp3tag is a good tagger (it also does FLAC). On *nix
puddletag is a good tagger. I don't know what people recommend on OSX.
After
simes_pep wrote:
But if the details are exactly the same - Album title, Artist, Album
Artist, etc. and only the file format is different (e.g. ALAC, ACC or
mp3) then could LMS preference the FLAC version, particularly if the bit
rate and sampling frequency of the FLAC and ALAC were the same
The sound quality of Apple Lossless and FLAC will be the same, so the
choice depends a lot on which ecosystem is more important for your
purposes. If you are heavily invested in SBs, then FLAC is the way to go
because Squeezeboxes play FLAC natively. If support for Apple products
is important to
Mnyb wrote:
If they are synced it is only one transcoding process as the server
sends the same stream to both players
Correct, yet still some low-end server hardware is not up to performing
that task reliably.
aubuti's
garym wrote:
I use actual artist for ARTIST tag (e.g., Sir Douglas Quintet, Texas
Tornados, Wayne Douglas, Doug Sahm Band, The Masked Men, etc.) and
then for all these I use ALBUM ARTIST as Doug Sahm
mp3tag is a useful tag editor that can automatically convert things from
artist to album
verypsb wrote:
Does GENPUID still work? Ìt always stalls after a few files... :-(
Worked fine for me this past weekend after ripping a few new CDs. In
fact it finished the analysis much faster than it has at any time over
the past several months. At those times it would go through each track
at
You should be able to remove them in mp3tag. If i understand your wishes
correctly, the easiest thing to do would be to delete all the images
that are embedded in the track files, and then just carry on with the
single folder.jpg in each folder. You can probably do the image deletion
in batch,
garym wrote:
Pc. Dbpoweramp
what he said
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I'll start with the obvious and observe that lossless is lossless, so
there should not be any difference in audio quality. You don't mention
which SB model(s) you have, and I don't follow Apple lossless
developments closely, but if I remember correctly it is recommended that
Touch users do the
The SB3 doesn't decode Apple lossless, so you'll definitely be doing the
transcoding on the server, because it needs to send the SB3 something it
can understand (eg, FLAC, WAV, AIFF). As long as your server is up to
the task you should be fine. And I expect that anything except an
underpowered
show the info from your tags, formatted as per your LMS
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What type of file is it (FLAC, ALAC, MP3, etc.)?
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would processing them with Wavgain achieve?
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ALBUMARTIST.
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I don't think this will make any difference, but have you experimented
with the Filter genres at the album track level setting? As I say,
I don't think this will get you the desired behavior, but it's easy
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Hi, I did not find that menu item...
I don't have LMS in front of me, but I believe it's under Settings My
Music in the LMS web ui.
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Additionally, I think it would be nice to exclude a genre.
Erland's suite of plugins (DynamicPlaylists + SQLPlaylists) can do this
nicely.
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other
programs sometimes for the same files. If you're on Windows, mp3tag is
an excellent tagger. If you're on Linux, I'd recommend puddletag. If
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a bug in
the way LMS presents the metadata.
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as the filename?
Finally, do you get the same behavior for tracks queued on regular SBs,
as opposed to SqueezePlay?
Fwiw, I like a lot of the CJs' music too.
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server.prefs with the default settings. The downside of
this is that (a) you will have to re-do all your settings, and (b)
there is absolutely no guarantee it will solve your problem. The upside
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Here's a quick tip for remembering your settings: screenshots. Lots of
them.
EDIT: And if you only zap server.prefs you don't need to worry about
your plugins, because those prefs are kept in separate files specific
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Afraid it didn't work;still getting file names instead of tags showing.
I'm puzzled enough that I'll take a look if you want to send me a
couple of the files that have caused problems. Send me a PM.
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the edits with puddletag, save, and do a full
clear and rescan and see what happens.
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people don't bother. But as the OP is using Ubuntu it's pretty easy to
do things right.
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would save you from adjusting the volume knob on your amp,
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For example,
ALBUM=Snappy Doo
ARTIST=James Morrison
ALBUMARTIST=James Morrison (Jazz)
ALBUM=Undiscovered
ARTIST=James Morrison
ALBUMARTIST=James Morrison (Singer songwriter)
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in the
current playlist are from the same album or a mix from different
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dpotts;685997 Wrote:
Probably there is a way to automate substituting appropriate ASCII for
nonASCII characters in ARTISTSORT using Mp3Tag, but that would take
some figuring.
This thread should give some useful hints:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78059
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aubuti said
LMS has a nice setting called SmartGain that will automatically
choose track gain or album gain depending on whether the tracks in the
current playlist are from the same album or a mix from different
albums.
Thanks for this tip. I did not find
, have you added a COMPILATION=1 tag to all the tracks?
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lounge albums.
I'm not sure this is your problem, but you've told LMS that this is two
different compilation albums (because you have two different ALBUM
tags), but you've stuffed them in the same folder. Are your other Live
Lounge albums multi-disc and tagged the same way?
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Abercrombie listed separately.
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, such as at work,
at a friend's or relative's place, or even a bank safe deposit box. Then
periodically update it, say, monthly.
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there are ports for
Windows. There are probably other variants on the same concept for
Windows (eg, Deltacopy).
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-- (a) making a copy of folder.jpg or (b)
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to view the art. For example, you'll want bigger files if you're using
iPeng on an iPad or the equivalent on an Android tablet. Or if you
think someday you may want to use one of those. Or if you think someday
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afterwards.
cd /Miles Davis/Complete Live Nickel/Disc 2 - Set 2
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emalvick;682188 Wrote:
The only comment I can make regarding the original question, is with
respect to how much tag editing you do...
Except that has nothing at all to do with the original question, which
was about comparing -*the sound quality*- of CD-MP3 versus
CD-FLAC-MP3.
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about wasted space when you're comparing an extra 20-50KB for another
copy of the album art against 500-600MB of a double CD album.
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accommodates multiple
entries for the same tag. So for Do I Ever Cross Your Mind on the Ray
Charles album I have:
ARTIST=Ray Charles
ARTIST=Bonnie Raitt
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I *think* you can have multiple entries on composer too, would have to
look.
Yes, you can.
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you want to edit before pressing
Alt-T)
3) the left side panel, which is also good for editing groups of tracks
at the same time.
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good FAQ that is tutorial in flavor:
http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showforum=12
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FLAC. The stream is lossless, but the reported bitrate estimate is
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m4a could be AAC or Apple Lossless. I have purchased some albums
directly from artists' web sites that have both Apple Lossless and MP3.
If that is what you have then you definitely do _not_ want to delete the
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The sound quality should be the same whether you go CD-FLAC-MP3 or
CD-MP3. The advantage of the former is that you have the FLAC copy,
from which it is generally more convenient (and certainly faster) to
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