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the sheetmusic of "the beauties of the
>>> ballroom" of the version that Jerry Holland plays on "Master Cape Breton
>>> Fiddler"...?
>>>
>>> I´m having a tough time figuring it out
>>> supposedly it´s also called "the lads
´m having a tough time figuring it out
> supposedly it´s also called "the lads of leith", but both versions of that
> tune which found on the internet do not match Jerry Holland´s playing at
> all
>
> thanks a million!
>
> Eva
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on the notes... I'll do some comparitive listening now that I know
> the fiddles are different.
>
> Bob
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songs from that time.
>
> It has a less modern sound than anything else I can think of that Alasdair
> has done.
>
> It features Natalie Haas on cello and Muriel Johnstone on piano.
>
> They do a lot of baroque-ish stuff, which seems perfetly appropriate.
>
> I like it, an
abc´s of the Fraser Collection, the Athole Collection and the
> Skye Collection I found this website some time ago It´s better then
> having it in print... much faster to look up a tune in these files, then in
> my piles of printed collections...
>
> enjoy! http://flutesong.members.be
Me too! Any chance of posting some clips?
> presumably it's not still in production...
>
> i'd love to hear it!
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I thought I'd ask if any other Scots-L'ers are attending the Valley of the
Moon Scottish Fiddle School this year. I'm started to get excited about it,
now that it's less than a week away; this will be my first time there!
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account, but that won't be active for a couple of weeks. I'll keep you
> all informed. I just wanted to say "Hey, it's arrived!" Oh, and I
> intend to record accompanying CDs with the books too...soon...
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> interested in any others from the SFSFs if you have them. Anyone have an
> idea how I can get ahold of a copy of McDonald's Collection?
>
> veda
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n't write ABC myself, or
> I would translate them for you.
> BAarb
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e2e2|"A"e2 e2 ec c2|"A"ccdBA2A2|
"A"e2 e2 ec c2|"A"cc dce2e2|"A"e2 e2 ec c2| cc "G"dB "A"A2A2|]
madfiddler wrote:
> Anyone know the names or have abc's of the so-called Skyedance Reels on
> Alasdair Frazier's San Francisco Fiddlers CD (the green one). The reels
> follow Fingal's Cave.
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> veda
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ist so I'll
>> try again:
>>
>> I've finally completed my abc transcription (melody line only) of Robert
>> Petrie's "A Second Collection of Strathspey Reels &c.", 1795, which I'll
>> send to anyone on the list who wants it.
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who wants it. This one has 70 tunes, a number of
which have never been reprinted. -Steve
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ing new. Alasdair
tends to attract eclectic fiddlers; I guess that's no surprise! -Steve
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ep dance "Burning the Piper's Hut" to a
Tony Elman tune that has the instrumentation of Hammered Dulcimer, Cello and
Pedal Steel. If only he'd left the pedal steel out of the mix it would have
been a nice recording. Not that I don't like pedal steel, you
understand.
ng
> silence, maybe others out there might wish to give their own
> stories...
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the tune i just posted is neither
> traditional nor scottish, and hence is probably off topic.
>
> sorry about that.
> (although in mitigation, can i say that the tune's composer does
> play in scottish style (strongly influenced by alasdair fraser)?)
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Nigel Gatherer wrote:
> Do any of you play this tune in a set? What other tunes do you play
> with it?
>
> X:686
> T:Shetland Fiddler, The
I don't think I've ever heard it before, but it's a nice tune; I'm looking
forward to using it in a dance set. Thanks f
ized, and I
didn't expect these problems with the code. However I'm hoping someone can
make use of this; some of the cello parts are really nice! Now, on to
Petrie's 2nd collection! -Steve
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>> I am pleased to announce a new home for the Fiddler's Companion at
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/index.html (I'm told that
>> www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers <http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers> works as
>> well)
>>
> These l
m hoping John
Chambers or someone else can help me find a place to put it so that JC's
tunefinder can pick it up). Anyone who would like a copy send me an
e-mail. -Steve
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Excellent, Nigel; just what I was looking for! The sparse information
I've found on Jim Watson says he was (is?) from Blairgowrie so it all
fits... Thanks for your help! -Steve
Nigel Gatherer said:
> On 20 Apr, Steve Wyrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying
ither is at all like this tune. Old Rattray is
> a town in the Grampians, of course.
>
> Anyway, if you have any info about the tune, send me a copy, and I'll
> add it to the tune's header.
>
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attribution). I'd
like to be able to include accurate authorship information, so am looking
for a resource to provide this. I'm aware of Andrew Kunz's Fiddlers'
Companion, but are there other resources online or in print that I should
be using? -Steve
Steve Wyrick said:
or Harpsichord or
Cello); if I do pursue this project, is there value in transcribing the
bass lines as well? Being a fiddler I don't normally deal with the bass
clef but I'm sure I could figure it out! Any advice appreciated -Steve
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lay, but when they finally got it sorted out she was surprised how much
easier it was to make them sound. That's the kind of stuff you need an
experienced piper to help you with. Good luck in your learning,
Cairistiona! -Steve
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> with sets suitable for The Gay Gordons, Dashing White Sergeant, Strip
> the Willow and waltzes. Man, it was braw, wi' nae a fiddle in sicht!
>
> Any other braw nichts oot there?
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Dominique Renaudin said:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Steve Wyrick a écrit:
>> ...(by the way, I think the key of Betty Lou's reel is
>> either
>> B minor or E dorian, not D major).
> It doesn't mean a change of notes doesn't it? I'll check the key/mode
>
t; L:1/8
> Q:333
> M:C|
> K:Ador
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> eaag edBd|eaag e2 dB|eaag efge|dGGA BcdB|!
> eaag edBd|eaag e2 dB|gaba gefd|efge dGBd|]!
>
> Thanks in advance!
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uld like to hear it. does anyone know of a CD that has
> this on it - preferably with fiddle and guitar?
>
> Thanks,
> Mary Umbarger
>
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of the
originals which are in public domain, plus a 1 page introduction, I don't
see how their copyright is valid, but what do I know?).
At any rate, Elderly Instruments has it for $12.35US; see
http://www.elderly.com/books/items/38-3.htm . -Steve
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Nigel Gatherer wrote:
> 27/12/1748:
>
> There is a fiddler of this land
> For whom I'm rather partial;
> It's he, the Man o' Gordon Castle,
> Unique and lauded, William Marshall!
Thanks for that reminder, Nigel, he composed some wonderful tunes. I spent
some time today fiddling through my Fidd
scription of Greenholm I have indicates it comes from Kerr's IV.
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ng to
(e.g. John Taylor/Andy Imbrie "Live", Green Ginger "Miss Ogilvie's
Fancy"). So really, I'd go further than you and argue that sterile
recordings DON'T have their place (at least, not in SCD)! -Steve
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the tracks is William McGibbon's _Minuet in A_. I wonder if there
> are any other recordings of that ilk.
>
> There aren't that many CDs of Scottish fiddle music (compared to Irish, or
> Bluegrass, say) so I thought I'd mention it. I don't think it will ever be
> my fav
Nigel Gatherer said:
> Steve Wyrick wrote:
>
>> Can anyone help me with abc's for the jig Cavehill? It's supposed to
>> be in Kerr's 3rd collection of Merry Melodies but I don't find abc's
>> for it on the web.
>
> Sorry, might be too late..
ler's choice"). Thanks -Steve
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; Mike McGeary
No problem Mike. Alasdair e-mailed you? Cool! I'm curious; did you
initiate that exchange, or is he lurking on this list!? -Steve
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Steve Wyrick wrote:
> Mike McGeary said:
>> Re: "Alasdair Fraser pairs it with The Cowboy Jig (in A) on The Road..."
>>
>> The problem with the Fraser pairing is that he plays Calliope House in D.
>>
>
> I think you're wrong, Mike. The version
Mike McGeary said:
> Re: "Alasdair Fraser pairs it with The Cowboy Jig (in A) on The Road..."
>
> The problem with the Fraser pairing is that he plays Calliope House in D.
>
I think you're wrong, Mike. The version he taught us (San Francisco
Scottish Fiddlers) is in
gt;
> Possibly is there an A jig that might fill the bill?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
Yeah, I think you might have better luck with A; lots more possibilities in
that key! Alasdair Fraser pairs it with The Cowboy Jig (in A) on The Road
North, and that's the best match I've
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Matt Seattle wrote:
> Just found what I was looking for to answer the 3/2 hornpipe thread..
This is great, Matt; thanks for posting!
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tern).
There are none in Scottish country dancing (no surprise I guess, since the
RSCDS barely distinguish between (standard) hornpipes and reels, and have
also dropped the 9/8 jig, except for Strip the Willow); I've never
encountered one in step dancing, either, and wonder does anyone
else play in a dance band? Do you enjoy it?
Not a formal dance band but I do play fiddle in various pickup bands for
Scottish country dance classes & events here (when I'm not dancing myself).
I do enjoy it, though my ability to keep a rock-solid tempo is sometimes
found lacking!
the section is down up down up-up-up, with a single bow on each
note of the last 2 measures. This seems to work fine although I'll admit I
haven't worked much on this tune and might want to change the bowings if I
start adding ornaments.
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amily gathering
next year. So far I have Miss Rattray's Reel, from the Skye Collection and
others, and the above tune. Anyone know of any others? A strathspey would
be nice! Thanks. -Steve
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hought I should
ask the obvious questions: is anyone aware of any existing abc versions of
the collection, or of anyone already working on this project? -Steve
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Jack Campin wrote:
> Steve Wyrick wrote:
> : JC's abc text file does match the midi file so I assume there's
> : a glitch in the software Jack used to produce the gif file.
>
> You have some wires crossed, I didn't produce any GIF that Rita
> looked at.
Excus
#x27;s gif file
didn't match JC's midi file and I was attempting to address that, not get
into any philosophical discussion about the advantages and failings of
standard notation or the best way to learn a tune. JC's abc text file does
match the midi file so I assume there's a g
;FF "G"G>B d>B | "A7"A>F Ge d>B AB | A>F dg f>e "G"dB | "D"A>d "A7"ee d>B AB | A>F de d>B "Bm"AB | "A7"A>F Ghttp://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html you'll get a pdf output with
the correct
the Skyedance CDs I have very much (that's
apart from Alasdair's CD with Paul Machlis that's also titled Skyedance,
which is one of my favorites).
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ng it.
Toby, your definition of "fusion" must be different than mine; when I think
of fusion I think of groups like The Peatbog Faeries and Shooglenifty, not
Alasdair Fraser! What are you defining his style as a fusion of? -Steve
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Rita Hamilton wrote:
> http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html
>
> I haven't been able to get in lately.
Worked for me just now, using Mac IE 5.1 -Steve
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ow can anyone govern a nation that has 246 kinds of cheese?" -Charles
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somebody could get up and just play a set of tunes for an audience, in the
presence of someone who could evaluate the performance and give hints on
what might be improved.
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our snaps" or
whatever. I'm not interested in knowing how well I rate against Player X, I
just want to know how I can improve! -Steve
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red why something like this isn't done for
fiddlers.
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it!
I was actually a little disappointed in After the Dance because I was
expecting more of the energy of Live, but I suppose that's unrealistic for a
studio album. However I don't want to discourage anyone from getting it,
because it's a nice CD!
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practice it can vary
somewhat depending on the figures in the dance and the skill and stamina of
the dancers! -Steve
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in Carlin's description?
BTW, speaking of Skinner, for Christmas I received a copy of The Strathspey
King, the CD of his remastered cylinders and 78s. Amazing stuff, especially
considering most of the tracks were recorded when Skinner was in his 70s,
and with primitive recording techniques. -Steve
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rly frequently, and still maintains ties with
members of the San Francisco Scottish Fiddlers. -Steve
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om Susie (I can
give you her e-mail address if you want it) for around $20. Good luck
tomorrow night; again please let us know how it goes. -Steve
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d were more concerned with the sound
quality rather than musicianship. -Steve
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y hoping that this is not really true.)
There's this article from the BBC which has a little more info:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2337799.stm
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w but I do
know BMI collects royalties from radio stations for songs played and
distributes them to songwriters who are members. -Steve
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Ted Hastings wrote:
> Nigel:
> this was an interesting response, but did you really need to send it twice?
> Or is the Scots-L software acting up again?
>
Yes it is. I just got Nigel's original message, dated 10/4. -Steve
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posted earlier and it works great! -Steve
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webcasting it live! The URL is
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/programmes/other/takethefloor.sh
tml and click on "Listen Again." -Steve
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mentors. I guess that's one problem with living halfway around the world
from the source of these tunes! -Steve
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thspey is very
important to Scottish music and you won't find any of those in O'Neill's so
I'm not sure you can get a good idea of the style from his books. -Steve
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x27;t find a tune in any of my standard sources I always type '"(tune name)"
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;t find that
message again and think I accidentally deleted it. I'd appreciate more
details on that one if anyone has it (or any other good Marshall collections
if there's more than one) as he's rapidly becoming one of my favorites.
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Perth)
> Trip to Sauchiehall Street (Jenna Reid, of Filska)
> McFadden's Reel (trad)
> The Auld Fiddler (W McGuire- possibly Billy McGuire, box player?)
>
> Derek
Thanks Derek, I appreciate it! -Steve
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usic not matching the dance that
I've encountered was with Foss' Wee Cooper o' Fife, which Anselm already
mentioned. It's a 40-bar reel in 4 10-bar phrases and one evening the
musicians who were playing for a class I attended didn't have the music so
decided to substitu
red, and the steps do make perfect sense even though all
the figures are familiar ones that are normally done with an even number of
steps.
Unfortunately, I still couldn't find anything on The Lilly of the Vale.
-Steve
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t; long out of print.
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it has been reprinted; "the King of
Sweden" seems to be a fairly popular step dance, at least in this area.
This would be a good question for the Strathspey list folks. -Steve
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et off! What's up with that, Toby? It should be the other way around
:-) I also asked to unsubscribe my old Earthlink account a couple weeks ago
since I switched ISPs but am still getting double posts of everything! BTW,
where IS Colonel Adkins these days? Haven't heard from h
worth, I've seen Claire Mann a couple times in performance
with Tabache; IMO if she's as good a teacher as she is a player it would be
well worth attending her sessions. She's one of those multitalented
performers I'm envious of: proficient on flute, fiddle and whistle, and a
goo
John Chambers wrote:
>
> By some coincidence, I just got that from a friend at a recent dance.
> Great tune. Here's his version:
Almost identical to the "official" version I have (just some slight
differences in the chords) so I won't bother to post mine. -S
s composed for
the wedding of Rose Grant and Alan McLeod, who live in Oakland."
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Suzie Petrov's book has a set consisting of De'il, The
Scholar, and The Flogging Reel but that's a much harder set. -Steve
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s?
No Ellen, actually it can occur on any beat. -Steve
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Steve Wyrick wrote:
> Ellen Sinatra wrote:
>> Perfect subject heading for my follow-up question.
>> Is this what is known as the "Scottish snap"?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ellen Sinatra
>>
>
> No, a Scottish snap is a 16th note followed by
Ellen Sinatra wrote:
>
>
> Steve Wyrick wrote:
>
>> . . . and overall the tunes
>> sound more accurate when time is taken from the following note. . . .
>
> Perfect subject heading for my follow-up question.
> Is this what is known as the "Scottish snap
e accurate when time is taken from the following note. After
trying to analyze my own playing some more, I still maintain that when a
strong beat is needed (e.g., the first beat of a measure), I'm hitting the
grace notes earlier than I'd do otherwise. (Although I tend to avoid playing
gr
I've
been playing tunes this evening trying to figure out what I really do and
can't figure it out! Help!
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onal preference? I suppose this is
really a question for the strathspey list! -Steve
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e music in classes and have to
rely on recorded music. When they teach they may end up using whatever they have on
hand that has the right number of bars and repetitions; if we end up dancing a reel to
jig music, or a strathspey to an air, oh w!
ell! -Steve
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From: Nigel Gatherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:04:11 + (GMT)
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Subject: Re: [scots-l] Tempi
> Steve Wyrick wrote:
>
> > ...I remember a discussion on the STRATHSPEY mailing list in the last
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