Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Mahesh Murthy
I'm actually worried about OpenOffice - the one interesting bastion against MS Office. What do you think might happen here? On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ramakrishna Reddy ramkr...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Venkat Inumella
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't figure out _what_ exactly they were after -- it's obviously some part of Sun's software business, but which? The same reason they came up with Unbreakable, may be? The idea of just one SLA covering the

Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Jai Iyer
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Venky TV venky...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I am concerned about OpenSolaris.  Solaris as an operating system probably has a brighter future under Oracle than before, but the OpenSolaris project does not seem to make too much sense for Oracle.  I don't see

Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Jai Iyer iyer@gmail.com wrote: [...] plug My cartoon on the Oracle-Sun acquisition : http://iyermatter.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/oracle-buys-sun/ /plug Shame on you for making IBM look cuddly. Bonus points to you if you redraw the cartoon to make Larry

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Zainab Bawa
I had a Muslim friend who was a film journalist. He absolutely detested meat and was an ardent vegetarian - no love for Biryani - would hide even on days of Eid and festivals, not wanting to eat meat. I eat vegetarian food because of health reasons and because of the fact that the meat

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Zainab Bawa
The other issue is also that I am made to feel apologetic about choosing to eat meat. That makes me feel worse! On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.com wrote: It is problematic when vegetarianism is imposed on my by force, in both subtle and not-so-subtle ways. That

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Zainab Bawa
I stayed for a year in Mumbai, and so did a lot of batchmates from MBA and we never had a problem find a place to stay even though I was a meat eater (even beef, though we never cooked), smoker, and regularly had people over drinking alcohol late into the night though we had to watch noise

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Zainab Bawa
Not really so. In Bangalore, a Belgian friend of mine was told that she would be allowed to take up the place only if she promised to stay vegetarian. Another American friend in Mumbai, married and with kids, was refused housing on grounds of vegetarianism. On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:04 AM, .

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
In Free Societies I think we believe there's large social benefit to fairness and freedom. This includes access to enfranchisement in that society. And a place to live, a place to work, etc. are elements of that. Hence, in the US, there are Civil Rights laws that make certain discrimination

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Zainab Bawa
My post was only meant as an example of how the actions of a fringe group of a community will nevertheless influence the opinions of others about that community at large. And that will also influence your judgements. Clap, clap, clap. Applause, applause, applause. -- Zainab Bawa Ph.D.

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
But no one's apologizing to me for the fact that steak is so delicious, damn it! And don't even get me started on the wonder that is bacon... And no one's apologizing to the person that may worship phallic objects who is horrified at the treatment of carrots and cucumbers... (although I suppose

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
And that will also influence your judgements. Clap, clap, clap. Applause, applause, applause. Fine..I'll take the bait... And how else do you propose I avoid being harassed by the police when it turns out that the person I rented out the flat to is a suspected terrorist. I didn't say I

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Mahesh Murthy
I was born to Hindu parents, am agnostic, but I follow the ancient Hindu tradition of enjoying beef. But not as much as I enjoy chicken though. I find it somewhat immoral to be vegetarian - there must be something unnatural and wrong if you skip a few obviously pre-ordained steps on the food

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
LTTE is a very different form of struggle and organization and it cannot be compared blanket with terrorism, and other kinds of violence. I have very close Sri Lankan friends, and educated, whose family members have been killed in LTTE blasts and violence, and who still support the LTTE. The

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Zainab Bawa
What constitutes terrorism is highly subjective. If you think struggles based on identity, freedom and not wanting to comply with a hegemonic notion of nation are equal to terrorism, then your understanding of terrorism is vastly different from mine. Violence is used when other spaces and avenues

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
What constitutes terrorism is highly subjective. If you think struggles based on identity, freedom and not wanting to comply with a hegemonic notion of nation are equal to terrorism, then your understanding of terrorism is vastly different from mine. Violence is used when other spaces and

[silk] Free, Renewable Energy Available Everywhere But the U.S.

2009-04-21 Thread Udhay Shankar N
This sounds a little too good to be true. Anybody know more? Udhay http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/21/722578/-Free,-Renewable-Energy-Available-Everywhere-But-the-U.S. Free, Renewable Energy Available Everywhere But the U.S. by Dry Observer Tue Apr 21, 2009 at 12:22:21 AM PDT Three

Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Jai Iyer wrote: Hmmm. I'd like Solaris to be an open-source, big-iron OS. The concept of Solaris on the desktop has always disturbed me, it's like err the Pope featuring in Playboy. The OpenSolaris features will migrate to the enterprise (Solaris is already there, of course), but the

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread ss
On Monday 20 Apr 2009 8:08:06 am Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Forget single. Get the gujjus out of mumbai and you'd probably have a better Mumbai than most (no wonder a creep like Modi is in power in Gujarat - they have a CM they deserve) Ah yes leave Mumbai to the real heroes - Bal Thickray

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
I didn't say I would pass judgment that he/she is a terrorist just on the basis of their Muslim name, just that I would be more wary. Since you've culled out other parts of my post - I'll restate. I didn't say I wouldn't rent to a Muslim, just not to somebody I didn't know at all or wasn't

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
During the crusades, I'd have rather taken my chances with Saladadin than Richard the Lionhearted (the Europeans at that time were notoriously savage) -- and if I was looking for science and culture, you'd want to head to Baghdad not Paris. I meant to spell Salahadin not Saladadin which sounds

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread sur...@hserus.net
I've eaten camel in riyadh and kangaroo in perth. i just dont order meat when others at the table are vegetarian -- srs/nokia e71 -original message- Subject: Re: [silk] Need some help From: . svaks...@gmail.com Date: 21-04-2009 20:59 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Zainab Bawa

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
Oh, and I forgot one important point -- that playing up this Muslim Threat has been politically expedient for a number of politicians around the world (and definitely in the US). There's a different between the truth and the truthiness that gets demagogues what they want. And as far as whipping

Re: [silk] Free, Renewable Energy Available Everywhere But the U.S.

2009-04-21 Thread Dave Long
Just off the cuff, this sounds much too good to be true: With it, you should be able to easily reach single-digits megawatt/hours of power in windspeeds as low as 10 statute-miles-per-hour, or drive a pump with thousands of horsepower of kinetic energy in those same winds. Power is cubic

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread .
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: On a slightly different tangent What I find very interesting is the differentiation in discrimination of different kinds in the media. For example, I see the reservation policies followed by the current congress

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread .
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:02 PM, sur...@hserus.net sur...@hserus.net wrote: I've eaten camel in riyadh and kangaroo in perth. i just dont order meat when others at the table are vegetarian An appropriate reply would have been sent your way if you took the trouble to snip out the irrelevant

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:02 PM, sur...@hserus.net sur...@hserus.netwrote: I've eaten camel in riyadh and kangaroo in perth. i just dont order meat when others at the table are vegetarian I do cook special stuff just for them when I invite them over. Even when I have a barbecue, in California

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
However, the idea that Muslims should somehow be cleaning their own house and taking care of these guys is stupid. Hmm...maybe..but the pressure on some of them who do think differently to conform is quite great. I felt that from one of the friends I mentioned in my post. Somewhere during the

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread .
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote: veg or non-veg fish bait? :-) ...a veggie fish bait? that reminds me of my Bong friends who still insist that fish is a vegetarian dish. Serves as a nice conversation starter over lunch/dinner. -- .

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 21:20, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: Somewhere during the third year, one of them lost his mother. There was so much guilt drilled into him that after he came back a few weeks later, he completely quit drinking and smoking. Started doing namaz

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Bonobashi
--- On Tue, 21/4/09, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote: From: . svaks...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [silk] Need some help To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:31 PM On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote: veg or non-veg fish bait? :-)

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
So, basically I don't get it. I don't think we can compare them to the Vikings. And I don't think this is just history repeating itself. And forcing change (through military or other means) from the outside might only result in making matters worse (as evidenced in recent efforts) and maybe

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Bonobashi
--- On Tue, 21/4/09, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: [silk] Need some help To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:41 PM --- On Tue, 21/4/09, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote: From: . svaks...@gmail.com

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Zainab Bawa
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:59 PM, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.com wrote: Not really so. In Bangalore, a Belgian friend of mine was told that she would be allowed to take up the place only if she promised to stay vegetarian.

Re: [silk] Free, Renewable Energy Available Everywhere But the U.S.

2009-04-21 Thread Thaths
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Dave Long dave.l...@bluewin.ch wrote: (same goes for hydro: we use kilometer drops in the alps for power arbitrage.  low head power generation is theoretically interesting, but if one has the vertical and the metallurgy it's much easier to just use them than to

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Dave Long
And how else do you propose I avoid being harassed by the police when it turns out that the person I rented out the flat to is a suspected terrorist. It looks like there are some 140 million muslims in india (of which a fair number in AP?). Unless there are also close to a million

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.comwrote: What makes you believe that Muslims shy away from capitalism? True, and there's also that matter of the bazzillions we pay to Muslim businessmen for oil (granted not in India, but remember that 17 of the 19 terrorists

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Bonobashi
--- On Tue, 21/4/09, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [silk] Need some help To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 10:43 PM On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.comwrote:   What makes

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
That was supposed to go to the thread that's numbering about 190+ entries. dunno why it ended up here.

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread .
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.com wrote: Dear . Discrimination in the rental housing market is not limited to religion. It extends to caste, sex, nationality (and is there anything else under the sun?). Yes, Gender. Would it be wrong to say its the

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Aadisht Khanna
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.comwrote: And also, I am not an advocate of regulations to curb discrimination. As has been pointed out in some of the postings, biases and prejudices are very deep seated. Applying regulations can be counter-productive in the

[silk] India launches a few satellites

2009-04-21 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
There's the usual spy satellite, but what caught my interest was this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8007653.stm [...] The rocket also contained the Anusat educational satellite, which will help transfer confidential material such as examination questions as well as track urban planning

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: LTTE is a very different form of struggle and organization and it cannot be I realize it is different. And I wanted to understand further and so we talked. At the end, it turned out his reasons (if you can call it that) was something similar to identifying with the

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Venkat Mangudi
. wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ravi Bellur [1]rav...@gmail.com wrote: veg or non-veg fish bait? :-) ...a veggie fish bait? that reminds me of my Bong friends who still Reminds me of this restaurant in Teaneck, NJ called Veggie Heaven. None of my friends believed that the

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread ss
On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 9:41:22 pm Bonobashi wrote: Ignorant A-bangali, out to DESTROY Bangla culture! In other words there are only two types of human you can phind in this world A bangali and a-bangali shiv

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread ss
On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 9:55:42 pm . wrote: that Bengali women are more beautiful when they are angry, true. Here's a bong woman you would not want to see angry.. http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=CAP/2009/04/18/12/Img/Pc0121600.jpg shiv

Re: [silk] India launches a few satellites

2009-04-21 Thread ss
On Wednesday 22 Apr 2009 1:46:23 am Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: Ummm... a satellite to transfer examination questions? WTF? Have they never heard of the internet or encryption? Not in unwired villages - whih is what this thing is really aimed at. They will need a satellite dish though. shiv

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Zainab Bawa wrote, [on 4/21/2009 10:17 PM]: Udhay, can I send an attachment to people on this list? There is a brilliant article on the historical basis of terrorism and responses to terrorism. It is very insightful and written beautifully. The list is set to strip out attachments. I suggest

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread ss
On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 10:11:30 pm Zainab Bawa wrote: Some pretty radical dislocations are required i.e. traditions and paradigms that challenge the hegemonic beliefs of religion, identity and property. An understatement. I am in the middle of a radical exercise to assess the psyche and

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Bonobashi
--- On Wed, 22/4/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote: From: ss cybers...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [silk] Need some help To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 6:19 AM On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 9:41:22 pm Bonobashi wrote: Ignorant A-bangali, out to DESTROY Bangla

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Bonobashi
--- On Wed, 22/4/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote: From: ss cybers...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [silk] Need some help To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 6:48 AM On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 10:11:30 pm Zainab Bawa wrote:   Some pretty radical dislocations are required

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread ss
On Wednesday 22 Apr 2009 6:56:39 am Bonobashi wrote: You can't do anything with it, except kill babies and women. I put it to you that this is the wrong thing to do. One must always kill adolescent and adult men, and keep the women and children That is a time tested way of making radical

Re: [silk] India launches a few satellites

2009-04-21 Thread gabin kattukaran
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:29 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 22 Apr 2009 1:46:23 am Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: Ummm... a satellite to transfer examination questions? WTF? Have they never heard of the internet or encryption? Not in unwired villages - whih is what this thing is

Re: [silk] India launches a few satellites

2009-04-21 Thread ss
On Wednesday 22 Apr 2009 9:36:24 am gabin kattukaran wrote: you still don't need a dedicated satellite for that. Just one transponder on any random communication satellite will do. IIRC all district head quarters were already connected on a VSAT network. The question that arises from this is