Re: CSCS colour Ode

2008-06-27 Thread Ode Coyote
26, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Heat makes contaminants more reactive. A fresh batch has both, more free tasteless silver Ag[+] Ions and bitter OH [-] Anions. ode At 07:10 AM 6/25/2008 -0400, you wrote: morning Dee My distilled water comes in a plastic bottle ...I put hot

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-27 Thread M. G. Devour
There are several different answers as to yes or no the the using the yellow sivler. Anybody really know for sure Mary Ellen Yes, Mary Ellen, if it turns a bit yellow it's still okay to use. All it means is that *some* of the silver has formed big enough particles to become barely visible.

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-27 Thread Ruth Bertella
- Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Thanks Norm. Unfortunately, my DW comes in 5ltr bottles so I couldn't put the whole thing in as it would probably compromise it if done

Re: CSCS colour Ode

2008-06-27 Thread N Cameron
I have never made a brew with water over 120 degrees ...you and I shared emails over this 3 years ago Norm - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:25 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Ode At 02:54 PM 6/26/2008

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-27 Thread Dee
Bertella Date: 27/06/2008 16:14:51 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Dee - you can put your DW in your pint or quart jar (or whatever you are making your CS in) and set that in the sink of warm water, or into a pan/pot of warm water. I rarely clean my electrodes or brew jar, and I

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
Goes to show that commercial distillers run into the same problems that home distillers do. The same equipment running at opposite ends of a maintenance cycle will make different quality water. ode At 07:25 PM 6/24/2008 +0100, you wrote: I made a new batch of EIS the other day and used

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:36 PM Subject: RE: CSCS colour A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS colour

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
the bottle in it while I have a cuppa tea :O) Norm - Original Message - From: mailto:d...@deetroy.orgDee To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:20 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Maybe this is what I am doing wrong. Because I have it set

RE: CSCS colour -- warm water

2008-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
-Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Thanks Norm. Unfortunately, my DW comes in 5ltr bottles so I couldn't put the whole thing in as it would probably compromise it if done

Re: CSCS colour- chemistry

2008-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
That's part of it. In the spirit of reality where and counts, silver oxides can also play a role in both color AND particle size when being a crystal nucleation site for smaller particles. Hydrogen Peroxide scavenges the nucleus out of crystalline structures by destroying colored

Re: CSCS colour Ode

2008-06-26 Thread N Cameron
Ode does that include tepid water? Norm - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Heat makes contaminants more reactive. A fresh batch has both, more free tasteless silver

Re: CSCS colour Ode

2008-06-26 Thread Faith Gagne
I just use steam distilled water at room temperature and nothing else. Faith G. - Original Message - From: N Cameron e...@rogers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Ode Ode does that include tepid water? Norm

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour I have found that my batch has a yellow tint if the time is to slow and the taste is usually bitter...in my case it was because the water was not that warm ...I find that 12 ppm with out a starter should take around 3 hrs with pre warmed distilled water ...also I

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
...@nycap.rr.com Date: 25/06/2008 00:34:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour I'd wager that you cleaned your container. That's the source of more contamination than any other thing. Chuck Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, I've lost my electron

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread N Cameron
Date: 24/06/2008 23:07:46 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour I have found that my batch has a yellow tint if the time is to slow and the taste is usually bitter...in my case it was because the water was not that warm ...I find that 12 ppm with out a starter

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
think about it. Many thanks. Dee ---Original Message--- From: N Cameron Date: 25/06/2008 12:10:46 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour morning Dee My distilled water comes in a plastic bottle ...I put hot tap water in the stopped up sink and set the bottle in it while I

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Kirsteen Wright
Dee, Can I ask where you get your DW from and how much is it? I distill my own at the moment but I'd like to have a back up plan if my disteller goes belly up. Besides with the way electricity prices are hiking, I'm beginning to question the length of time it takes and the amount of eclectricity

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
and this is what I did. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 25/06/2008 12:37:38 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Dee, Can I ask where you get your DW from and how much is it? I distill my own at the moment but I'd like to have a back up plan

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Are you in the UK Kirsteen? If so, I get it from Aura Innovations Ltd and the water is called Aqwsafe which is http://www.aura-innovations.co.uk/index.asp I find them as reasonable as can be expected in the UK i.e. One gallon is

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Mary Ellen Murphy
There are several different answers as to yes or no the the using the yellow sivler. Anybody really know for sure Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour I

RE: CSCS colour -- warm water

2008-06-25 Thread Judy Knowlton
...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Thanks Norm. Unfortunately, my DW comes in 5ltr bottles so I couldn't put the whole thing in as it would probably compromise it if done repeatedly. Then it means I would have to put it in another

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread N Cameron
: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:24 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Thanks Norm. Unfortunately, my DW comes in 5ltr bottles so I couldn't put the whole thing in as it would probably compromise it if done repeatedly. Then it means I would have to put it in another container to warm

Re: CSCS colour- chemistry

2008-06-25 Thread Clayton Family
This gets into colloid chemistry, which is a very interesting subject, but can get technical, depending on your background. Basically, the yellow color comes from certain wavelengths of light being absorbed by the silver ions, so the opposite color appears. It has to do with the size of the

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread B Magnatta
Wouldn't plain ol vinegar be good to clear the bottles or soap residue or anything else? Sincerely Barb M. ---Original Message--- From: N Cameron Date: 6/25/2008 7:11:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour morning Dee My distilled water comes in a plastic bottle

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dan Nave
, 2008 6:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Thanks Norm. Unfortunately, my DW comes in 5ltr bottles so I couldn't put the whole thing in as it would probably compromise it if done repeatedly. Then it means I would have to put it in another

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dan Nave
-Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS colour There are several different answers as to yes or no the the using the yellow sivler. Anybody really know for sure

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS colour Say a prayer over it afterwards if you think the microwave radiation is imprinting the water... Dan

RE: CSCS colour -- warm water

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
:35 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS colour -- warm water My silverpuppy has a lightbulb stirrer. It warms the water a little What if you set a light bulb next to your jar? Is that enough warmth? My CS takes about 5 hours per quart. WhatÂ’s the big deal? Judy Down Maine

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
Of course that's it Norm! Completely obvious when you think about it, clever you! I will try that next batch. Dee ---Original Message--- From: N Cameron Date: 25/06/2008 13:47:53 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour hi Dee maybe put it in the jar that you make

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread N Cameron
the purity of the distilled to see how it measures up ...the alcohol has always worked ... take care Norm - Original Message - From: B Magnatta To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour Wouldn't plain ol vinegar be good

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread trem
: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: Re: CSCS colour hi Barb what I found with using liquids to clean the utensils and mainly the jar was that it brought the ppm up a little too high for me any way ...to proceed in making a batch...my distilled water is usually around 00.1 which I

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dan Nave
, 2008 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS colour I don't know about that Dan! vbg I don't know anything about microwaves but most people seem to think they are a bad thing. I just wondered if they could alter the water in any way, which I

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Dee
Thanks Dan. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dan Nave Date: 25/06/2008 18:09:56 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS colour They won't alter the water. And if it does, or if you think that it does, it would be in the subtle realm where any type of energy work like praying

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread cking001
Yes, but you will have to make up your own mind. Chuck There's no need to do housework--after four years the dirt doesn't get any worse On 6/25/2008 8:29:59 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy (maryelle...@bellsouth.net) wrote: There are several

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-25 Thread Mary Ellen Murphy
, 2008 5:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS colour Yes, but you will have to make up your own mind. Chuck There's no need to do housework--after four years the dirt doesn't get any worse On 6/25/2008 8:29:59 AM, Mary Ellen

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread Mary Ellen Murphy
A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS colour I made a new batch of EIS the other day and used a fresh bottle of DW (got

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread Rowena
No, it's fine. R A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad Mary Ellen

RE: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread cking001
No, it's not bad. Yellow was once a desireable goal. Since then, it has been found that clear is even better, but what you have is perfectly good to use. Chuck Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: Does this taste funny to

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread Faith Gagne
I was advised not to ingest it if it turned yellow. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:36 PM Subject: RE: CSCS colour A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread Dee
The one you buy in Holland and Barrett is yellow anyway, and that is only 3ppm, but I understood pale yellow is ok, only other colours i.e. Red, purple etc., are bad. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 24/06/2008 22:27:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread Faith Gagne
Mine is crystal clear and I guess that is what I prefer. You have to wonder why they make yellow instead of clear. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Re: CSCS colour The one you buy

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread Dee
Subject: Re: CSCS colour Mine is crystal clear and I guess that is what I prefer. You have to wonder why they make yellow instead of clear. Faith G.

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread N Cameron
PM Subject: Re: CSCS colour I would prefer mine to be clear and the first couple of batches were. I am puzzled as to why these aren't. It has to be the water I suppose, or something that's got into the water. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread Faith Gagne
I did have that trouble with another generator and I couldn't figure it out either. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: CSCS colour I would prefer mine to be clear and the first

Re: CSCS colour

2008-06-24 Thread cking001
On 6/24/2008 5:40:39 PM, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: I would prefer mine to be clear and the first couple of batches were. I am puzzled as to why these aren't. It has to be the water I suppose, or something that's got into the water. Dee I'd wager that you cleaned your container. That's