GH wrote
"In a message dated Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:01:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
"Conway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:< so many others left on the books ?? It has definitely
made it very tough on the women who are trying to achieve
greatness innany events ... So does anyone know why
GH wrote:
> Ben Johnson was expunged because he admitted under oath in a court of law
that he had been dirty. A few other Canadians went down with him. Far as I
know, they're the onlypeople ever to have admitted under oath what they did.
>
> Sensibly, the IAAF and IOC have not taken to purging pe
All the talk yesterday about relay legs gave rise to the following thought
... If I could put together any foursome in the 4 x 1 and 4 x 4 who would
it be ??? Here's what I would consider to be Dream Teams in the relays ..
Any better ??
4x1
1- Jon Drummond
2- Ron Brown
3 - Calvin Smith
4- Bob H
.. cuz if the NY Giants win the Super Bowl, Millrose (just 5 days after the Game) will
cease to exist in the eyes of the all-powerful New York media. There are a half-dozen
Olympic gold medalists in town? Who cares, we need to write the definitive biography
of Jason Sehorn.
Unfortunately, even
Conway wrote:
.. I am very gung ho on the sport but I too am almost to
the point where I believe Kenya will be ahead of us in the not too distant
future if something doesn't happen soon ...
Conway Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Where will Kenya "be ahead" of the US, excluding the events they
If you do get rid of some of the existing marks, what marks do you use for the
world records? Do you go back to the original mark bettered by the current world
record? What about all the marks in between the old world record and the
current? There's a strong likelihood that those athletes were not
hi
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Please cite the spot where I say that I "HATE" the walks or anything, or
that I say racewalking is not "MANLY". I don't think it makes a heck of a
lot of sense as a sport. It is a fine excercise. I commend anybody who
finds anything that inspires passion and devotion in themselves, and pursues
>All the talk yesterday about relay legs gave rise to the following thought
>... If I could put together any foursome in the 4 x 1 and 4 x 4 who would
>it be ??? Here's what I would consider to be Dream Teams in the relays ..
>Any better ??
>
>4x1
>
>1- Jon Drummond
>2- Ron Brown
>3 - Calvin Sm
I was sent the following from the Michigan track and field list. It is not
meant to stir up drug controversy. I am actually curious about how John
Walker is doing. I remember reading something about him being very sick.
But I don't remember how long ago I read it, or what he was ill with.
Does
I'd have to go with:
4x1
1 - Bob Hayes
2 - Maurice Greene
3 - Donovan Bailey
4 - Carl Lewis
I just don't see how you could leave Lewis out of this. He was my first
pick by a long, long way. About the only question I had was who to run on
the curves. If it weren't that Bailey proved he could ru
Buck wrote:
> I'd have to go with:
> 4x1
> 1 - Bob Hayes
> 2 - Maurice Greene
> 3 - Donovan Bailey
> 4 - Carl Lewis
>
> I just don't see how you could leave Lewis out of this. He was my first
> pick by a long, long way. About the only question I had was who to run on
> the curves. If it wer
1Houston McTear
2 Jean Louis Ravelmanatsoa
3 Mel Pender
4 Dr. Delano Merriwether
ps- spell check was useless with these names...sorry if I butchered them!
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Mike Fanelli
San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist
professional representati
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jan 2001 2:35:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, "mike fanelli"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<< 1Houston McTear
2 Jean Louis Ravelmanatsoa
3 Mel Pender
4 Dr. Delano Merriwether>>
Is this one of those "pick which one doesn't belong" quizzes? You've got three dwarves
and a d
Kurt wrote:
>
> Any better? Sure, Maurice Greene and Carl Lewis are/were certainly faster
> than Brown and Drummond, and they are experienced relay men. Assuming you
> had a time machine so that everyone was in his prime and that you could
> convince 4 big-time stars to actually pass the baton
Conways dream team looks like this:
4x1
1- Jon Drummond
2- Ron Brown
3 - Calvin Smith
4- Bob Hayes
Assuming that no duplicates are allowed, I'd enter this squad in the 4 x 1
1-Mike Marsh
2-Maurice Greene
3-Tommy Smith
4-Carl Lewis
Conway's 4 x 4 gets most of the studs in this 4some
4x4
1-
Confirming my earlier posts, Rex Harvey reports on the WAVA Web site:
January 18, 2001:
WAVA President Torsten Carlius reports that the rights to conduct the 2003
WAVA World Championship have been withdrawn from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. He
states that last March, when some question arose, he
Netters:
On
the subject of the walk as an avent, there is no doubt that it is a very
dificult and strenuous discipline when done correctly. The problem now is that
the leading walkers are so obviously flouting the rules in most cases that it
has become an embarrassment. There is rea
Greetings, all
The WAVA Web site informs us that Bridget Cushen of Britain is running again
for the office of WAVA women's representative.
See posting at:
http://www.wava.org/latest%20news/Bridget%20Cushen%20Announcement.htm
Given that Cushen has apparently done nothing on behalf of Kathy Ja
I disagree on many levels:
-First, the Giants play and practice in Jersey and most of the players live
in Jersey.
-Unlike most cities in the US, New York is a REAL big city, big enough that
successes/failures in sports are not the be all, end all of things. Life
will go on, with or without parade
Oops! I meant to put Linford Christie as my anchor on 4x1 Dream Team 2,
making:
1 - Leroy Burrell
2 - Ato Bolden
3 - Frankie Fredricks
4 - Linford Christie
As it was I had Ato carrying leg two and then hustling over to run the
anchor too. Heh...
___
Carleton 'B
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jan 2001 2:54:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<>
Keith definitely onto something. Replace Babers with Henry Carr and I'll take the "B"
squad too.
gh
SD wrote
"If you do get
rid of some of the existing marks, what marks do you use for theworld
records? Do you go back to the original mark bettered by the current
worldrecord? What about all the marks in between the old world record and
thecurrent? There's a strong likelihood that those at
> Conways dream team looks like this:
>
> 4x1
>
> 1- Jon Drummond
> 2- Ron Brown
> 3 - Calvin Smith
> 4- Bob Hayes
>
>
> Assuming that no duplicates are allowed, I'd enter this squad in the 4 x 1
> 1-Mike Marsh
> 2-Maurice Greene
> 3-Tommy Smith
> 4-Carl Lewis
I would bet on the second team any d
Men's 4 x 100
Charlie Green
Mel Pender
Maurice Greene
Bob Hayes
Men's 4 x 400
Larry James
John Smith
Lee Evans
Michael Johnson
Women's 4 x 100
Evelyn Ashford
Merlene Ottey
Flo Jo
Marion Jones
Women's 4 x 400
Jaramila Kratochilova
Grit Breuer
Valerie Brisco
Marion Jones
How about Chandra Cheesebrough in place of Maicel? And how about Flojo over Marion in
a battle of the doublers?
<4 x 400
1-Marion Jones
2-Gwen Torrence
3-Maicel Malone
4-Valerie Brisco >
Steve S
First, depending on how you read the rules, the
walkers are not necessarily flouting it. Remember the rule says "No
visible (to the human eye) loss of contact". While there are certainly
exceptions, most walkers are NOT losing contact in a way that is visible to the
human eye, even trained
Helsinki 0
Los Angeles104
Rome 20
Seoul 85
Tokyo 0
Barcelona 0
Stuttgart 245
Goeteborg 31
Atlanta302
Athens138
Seville21
Sydney
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jan 2001 3:55:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Martin J.
Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
We aren't
talking about those marks. We're talking about known dirty marks that have been
admitted to. Whatever the fall-out is from thatis irrelevant. Not knowing
whether
Keith wrote:
> Conways dream team looks like this:
>
> 4x1
>
> 1- Jon Drummond
> 2- Ron Brown
> 3 - Calvin Smith
> 4- Bob Hayes
>
>
> Assuming that no duplicates are allowed, I'd enter this squad in the 4 x 1
> 1-Mike Marsh
> 2-Maurice Greene
> 3-Tommy Smith
> 4-Carl Lewis
>
I like that squad
Ed wrote:
> > Conways dream team looks like this:
> >
> > 4x1
> >
> > 1- Jon Drummond
> > 2- Ron Brown
> > 3 - Calvin Smith
> > 4- Bob Hayes
> >
> >
> > Assuming that no duplicates are allowed, I'd enter this squad in the 4 x
1
> > 1-Mike Marsh
> > 2-Maurice Greene
> > 3-Tommy Smith
> > 4-Carl L
Sideshow wrote:
>
> No, it would be a problem for all of us. I was in favor of wiping out ALL
world records at the end of last year, but to set up some kind of
investigation to selectively get rid of dirty WR's would be deadly for the
sport. Track's few headlines are already dominated by drugs.
Walt wrote:
> I can't believe no one has mentioned Dennis Mitchell for the 3rd leg on a
> Dream 4x100. He ran in that position on five of the six fastest teams in
> history (Including four world records).
>
>
I agree .. I didn't pick him only because I chose Calvin Smith who I feel is
the best
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jan 2001 4:45:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Helsinki 0
Los Angeles104
Rome 20
Seoul 85
Tokyo 0
Barcelona 0
Stuttgart 245
Goeteborg
2001 POST-COLLEGIATE SCHEDULE
Here's what I have at the moment for a 2001 North American post-collegiate
track meet schedule (updated 19 January '01). The meets listed below are
primarily high performance meets open to post-collegiate runners.
The updated version of this list is posted at
I can't believe no one has mentioned Dennis Mitchell for the 3rd leg on a
Dream 4x100. He ran in that position on five of the six fastest teams in
history (Including four world records).
Walt Murphy
> 1- Jon Drummond
> 2- Ron Brown
> 3 - Calvin Smith
> 4- Bob Hayes
VERSUS
> > 1-Mike Marsh
> > 2-Maurice Greene
> > 3-Tommy Smith
> > 4-Carl Lewis
> >
Conway wrote:
> I like that squad a lot .. Not sure how well MO would be able to pass the
> stick, and Tommie was alittle slow gettign started
How about some brave souls out there showing their savvy by predicting
the results of some of this weekends races?
I'll stick my neck out and say that I'll pick Jason Pyrah over Benard
Lagat in L.A. on Saturday. I have no clue about how fast.
John
Though the men's teams are good, your women's teams might still go down to
the GDR (even discounting Breuer).
4x1 Marlies Goehr, Kathrin Krabbe, Marita Koch, Heike Drechsler with
Woeckel or Stecher as handy subs
4x4 Christine Brehmer, Sabine Busch, Baerbel Woeckel, Marita Koch with
maybe
Walker has Parkinson's Disease.
A few links for anyone interested:
http://www.coolrunning.com.au/editorials/1997e007.shtml - When he was first
diagnosed with the disease, Walker said he heard reports that Parkinson's
was brought on by high-performance sport. He admits he knew of only two
suffere
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jan 2001 6:05:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Conway"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<>
Gee, what a great idea. What's the over-under on the Flojo family filing a
multi-million dollar lawsuit for defamation of character? About 4 seconds? Yeah, sign
me up for that panel.
GH wrote:
> In a message dated Fri, 19 Jan 2001 6:05:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
"Conway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> < ALL is complete you make a one time adjustment .. Of all records that need
> adjusting .. You take out all "bad marks" and what you are left with are
the
> new records ..
I'm not really in favour of censorship but there are some things that are
beyond the pale. This is one of them. Whoever wrote it in the first place
and Mcewen, Brian T who posted it should be ashamed of themselves.
Randall Northam
> I was sent the following from the Michigan track and field list.
Just to show how fortunes come and go, and one shouldn't make too much out of any one
year's results, the following chart is an analysis of the T&FN World Rankings in the
men's 100 since the first year, 1947. The Rankings are scored 10-9-8. making the
perfect score 55. The best year ever wa
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jan 2001 7:33:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Conway"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Actually not .. In a previous post I stated that we work only with those
marks for which we have evidence .. So FloJo's marks remain .. Of course
there is nothing preventing anyone to list
Sideshow wrote:
>
> What kind of evidence would you use? Sure, there is strong evidence that
the East Germans used drugs. But I'm sure you could get people to testify
and provide evidence that lots of other athletes were doped but never tested
positive. Couldn't the fact that Marion Jones is marr
In a message dated 1/19/01 3:06:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good theory. I would agree with this but
<.. Have hearings .. Convene a panel >
Bd idea. The sport would be dragged through the mud for years.
Steve S.
No Astreik for flo-jo. If the judges and their equipment made an error it is
not the fault of the athlete and they should not be penalized.
In every sport there are judgement errors by refs, umps and officials, We
don't attach asteriks to those games. Why should this sport be any different?
.
I
- Original Message -
> No Astreik for flo-jo. If the judges and their equipment made an error it
is
> not the fault of the athlete and they should not be penalized.
So instead we punish every athlete who comes after her?
Get rid of the record
Grote & Sam,
Geez a little touchy here? Why not deal with this on list or off, there
is no need to bring the whole gang along, or is there? Basically your
comments towards the event are mean spirited without cause. You make
comments about the event and its practitioners in such a way to
denigr
THE IRISH TIMES
Saturday, January 20, 2001
Keith Duggan
Marion Jones is playing H-O-R-S-E. It's a universally known basketball game,
a bit of fun. You make a shot of your choice and then your opponent has to
replicate it.
Sky-hooks, lay-ups, anything goes. Loser is horse. It's a game she and CJ
Middle Tennessee meet start sheets are posted at our web site. This will be
the same location as for results after the meet.
Enjoy
Cleon R. Fowler
C.F.P.I. Timing & Data, Inc.
www.cfpitiming.com
"The answer to all your timing needs"
Native European Team:
Leadoff: Armin Hary (Germany)
2nd Leg: your pick of recent Greeks
3rd Leg: Pietro Mennea (don't bother painting lane lines)
Anchor: Valeriy Borzov (S.U./Ukraine)
Alternates: Roger Bambuck and Eddy Ottoz, although I'm
not sure whether Bambuck is a native European.
By the way
>No Astreik for flo-jo. If the judges and their equipment made an error it
>is
>not the fault of the athlete and they should not be penalized.
>In every sport there are judgement errors by refs, umps and officials, We
>don't attach asteriks to those games. Why should this sport be any
>differen
If you would like to see full results of the SEC Quad Meet (Arkansas, Florida, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt(Women)/Texas(Men)), you can check them out on my site:
http://www.larissa-kleinmann.com
You can find info on the meet under "Results" and "News".
*** Larissa
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