Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
Am 12.01.2011 07:50, schrieb André Joost: Am 11.01.11 17:01, schrieb Michał Borsuk: You do get that information when you are at the spot. It is written on the timetable. If you are able to see, yes. But disabled (that is everyone who has to use public transport because he/she is not able to

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Albin Michlmayr
Am Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:21:41 +0100 schrieb Michał Borsuk michal.bor...@gmail.com: On 11 January 2011 18:59, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) te...@teddy.ch wrote: I began searching for alternatives and found Oxomoa, unified stoparea, stop place and others. All are created because the current

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
1) We need to see a proposal that is explicitly scalable. No more than one page to describe how to map a basic bus or tram line in a way that is consistent with existing usage (ie if you look around you will see lots of examples to reinforce your understanding). 2) There is no clear case for a

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
Am 12.01.2011 11:10, schrieb Albin Michlmayr: Am Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:21:41 +0100 schrieb Michał Borsukmichal.bor...@gmail.com: On 11 January 2011 18:59, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy)te...@teddy.ch wrote: I began searching for alternatives and found Oxomoa, unified stoparea, stop place and others.

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
Am 12.01.2011 11:16, schrieb Richard Mann: 1) We need to see a proposal that is explicitly scalable. No more than one page to describe how to map a basic bus or tram line in a way that is consistent with existing usage (ie if you look around you will see lots of examples to reinforce your

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread ant
On 12.01.2011 09:52, Michał Borsuk wrote: Am 12.01.2011 07:50, schrieb André Joost: Am 11.01.11 17:01, schrieb Michał Borsuk: You do get that information when you are at the spot. It is written on the timetable. If you are able to see, yes. But disabled (that is everyone who has to use

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Ed Loach
Richard wrote: put unified_stoparea as an elaboration rather than an alternative; I hope it doesn't spark an edit war). It might. Unified_stoparea is flawed in that it isn't backwards compatible as it contradicts the documentation for highway=bus_stop (node beside way) to use it for the

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
Am 12.01.2011 12:59, schrieb ant: Hi Michał, Certainly it doesn't make sense to talk about bus stops when the road network isn't even finished yet. Totally agree. The point is, we are in the process of establishing a kind-of-standard about public transport network. There has been lots of

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Unified_stoparea is flawed in that it isn't backwards compatible as it contradicts the documentation for highway=bus_stop (node beside way) to use it for the stopping position (rather than the platform). This is why the

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 12/01/2011 11:10, Albin Michlmayr a écrit : I pretty much came the same way Dominik did. I am also a public transport fanatic. And I like to map small details and it makes me joy to when a bus route crossing a roundabout uses one half of the roundabout in one direction and the other half in

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM, ant antof...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, nobody is forced into a complicated tagging scheme. Anybody who is uncomfortable with relations, advanced editors or whatever should just put a node to each bus stop. That's fine. Another mapper will come and turn it into a

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
Am 12.01.2011 15:50, schrieb ant: Hi, Ok, nobody is forced into a complicated tagging scheme. Anybody who is uncomfortable with relations, advanced editors or whatever should just put a node to each bus stop. That's fine. And that's what we're about to standarize. Another mapper will come

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread ant
On 12.01.2011 16:00, Richard Mann wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM, antantof...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, nobody is forced into a complicated tagging scheme. Anybody who is uncomfortable with relations, advanced editors or whatever should just put a node to each bus stop. That's fine. Another

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
Am 12.01.2011 16:30, schrieb ant: Consider an application that takes a start and an end address, maybe other options such as night lines only, and that shall calculate the shortest PT connection including number of stops etc. How would you accomplish that with the old tagging scheme? By

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread ant
On 12.01.2011 16:40, Michał Borsuk wrote: Am 12.01.2011 16:30, schrieb ant: Consider an application that takes a start and an end address, maybe other options such as night lines only, and that shall calculate the shortest PT connection including number of stops etc. How would you accomplish

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:07 PM, ant antof...@gmail.com wrote: So the point of stop area relations is to prepare the data to be interpreted as a network and thus to make routing... easy. Stop areas are about linking the stop (notionally on the footway) to the road. Or they are about linking

Re: [Talk-transit] Talk-transit Digest, Vol 23, Issue 3

2011-01-12 Thread Smartrip Technologies Ltd.
Hi, I'm watching this discussion from beginning, and I want to give you some point to your consideration. OSM is map solution - I don't want to define what kind of solution (despite the content is developed by community). But OSM is a perfect base-platform for every geo-location based internet

Re: [Talk-transit] [Tagging] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/11 Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) te...@teddy.ch: Please visit again http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport thank you for the work on this. I have just 2 small comment on this: A station is an area dedicated to and particularly designed for passenger access to

[Talk-transit] Additional administrators needed please

2011-01-12 Thread Peter Miller
I have very belatedly noticed a load of posts to talk-transit needing moderation. I have been through them all discarding the dross and releasing the valid ones. Many apologies for people who's posts got held up. Can we have some offers of additional administrators for this list as I am the only

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 01/12/2011 05:07 PM, ant wrote: A node in this context means a place where i can change from one bus (tram) line to another without having to walk more than a few metres.In the proposed scheme a stop area is exactly this. Sorry, but this is absolutely pointless. First of all, modern

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - 2nd RFC - Public Transport

2011-01-12 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 01/12/2011 06:34 PM, ant wrote: On 12.01.2011 17:27, Richard Mann wrote: I think there is some misunderstanding. I'm talking about the use of relations to group stop positions and platforms together that are considered a stop or station where one can change vehicles. Again, why enter it

Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))

2011-01-12 Thread maning sambale
GK-Telus Village here: http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlehybridlon=121.0327lat=14.67399zoom=18 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The slum mapping with Philip Paar will be on Saturday Jan 15, 2011. 2nd GK site Telus Village in

Re: [talk-ph] Be careful in tracing from Bing Maps

2011-01-12 Thread maning sambale
I checked the existing coverage of gps traces within bing areas. Aside from Jolo and Sanga-sanga all of them have GPS tracks we can calibrate the imagery. See josm shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/sets/72157625812711648/with/5350890259/ A few observations while eye-balling the

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
A cursory glance suggests Britain appears to have more highway=unsurfaced than other places, and even then there aren't that many. I will happily fix 200 of them _properly_ (i.e. with what the track actually is, not the cop-out of highway=road) if someone creates a rendering to highlight where

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
If someone feels like reviewing the stylesheet and providing a patch, I'd go for dashed casings rather than solid casings where surface is specified and it's not one of a small set (paved, asphalt, concrete, paving_stones). I've used a similar scheme on my local map (for distinguishing the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM Fork] paths and roads and approval, oh my

2011-01-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 14:36, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: By the way, this is a great example of why no approval process required for tags is a weakness, and not a strength (see Ultimate list of approved keys, http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.tagging/6203) No, the lack of

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM Fork] paths and roads and approval, oh my

2011-01-12 Thread NopMap
JohnSmitty wrote: No, the lack of a policy to mass retag is the weakness. No. You cannot retag once the meaning of a tag has been lost in multiple different interpretations. bye Nop -- View this message in context:

[OSM-talk] [Request] Mapper for interviews (Thu, ~15 Uhr), detection, recoding and solving OSM address problems

2011-01-12 Thread Alexander Steinhart / DThinking
Dear OSM Community, for a Design Thinking Workshop in Rumania to “improve the quantity and quality of address solving software in open maps” we are looking for 4-8 spontaneous and interested mappers that are happy to share there thoughts and experiences around the topic of address collection and

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/12 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:59 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote You seem to keep getting mixed up between the UK understanding of the word 'road' and the OSM context of the meaning of highway=road.  As you can read (quoted) in my original email,

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-12 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/12 Anthony o...@inbox.org: As I said, highway=road is not defined as unknown classification, it is defined as a road of unknown classification. IMHO that's just a bad definition, because if you don't

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM Fork] paths and roads and approval, oh my

2011-01-12 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:10:38 -0800 (PST) NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: JohnSmitty wrote: No, the lack of a policy to mass retag is the weakness. No. You cannot retag once the meaning of a tag has been lost in multiple different interpretations. bye Nop Even

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-12 Thread Alex Mauer
On 01/12/2011 11:39 AM, Anthony wrote: Which I suppose is one of my main questions. If a way is tagged with highway=road, and nothing else, should a router route motor vehicle traffic down it? I would think the answer is yes, which means that paths which are not meant for motor vehicle traffic

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-12 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 12.01.2011 20:36, schrieb Alex Mauer: So at best it could be routed with strong “use at your own risk” warnings. But in general it’s probably best if routers do not send people down them. It would be great to have an OSM-Navi giving the user the choice: - fastest - shortest - most

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-12 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 01/12/2011 11:39 AM, Anthony wrote: Which I suppose is one of my main questions.  If a way is tagged with highway=road, and nothing else, should a router route motor vehicle traffic down it?  I would think the answer

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] install party bij Gert

2011-01-12 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Martijn, maar ook anderen... Mijn server is blijven staan op het niveau van de server party, en ik heb de automatische updates aan de gang gekregen. Is er al een bijgewerkt serve handboek inmiddels... Ik zou de server graag afmaken tot aan het niveau dat ie zelf tiles kan serveren in mijn lokale

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] install party bij Gert

2011-01-12 Thread Martijn van Exel
Ik heb er nog geen tijd voor gehad. Ik wil het nog in januari doen :) Heeft iemand anders er nog aan gewerkt? Martijn On 1/12/2011 11:58 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Martijn, maar ook anderen... Mijn server is blijven staan op het niveau van de server party, en ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] install party bij Gert

2011-01-12 Thread Peter
Ik ben in principe nog steeds bezig met OSMbuntu, maar ik ben nu bezig met het bouwen van mijn nieuwe server. Voor zij die het nog niet gezien ehbben, OSMbuntu wordt een distributie gebaseerd op Ubuntu Server, die meteen alle OSM software al bevat. En een extract van een gebied naar keuze,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] install party bij Gert

2011-01-12 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Jij had toch iets van een script ?? Kan je daar iets uit copypasten, zodat ik van het weekend weer wat verder kan komen ev met behulp van je IRC adviezen ? Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Peter [mailto:pe...@haas-en-berg.nl] Verzonden: woensdag 12 januari 2011 16:44 Aan:

Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 16:18, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Cloudbase was at 1600' last time James looked at it, which is a bit too low; I just spoke to him and whilst we can fly at 1000' if we want (for a 1cm survey), the buildings in Brisbane are a bit higher than in Perth :) Only in the

Re: [talk-au] [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features

2011-01-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 10:05, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/11 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Martin, for your information there was a bit of work done on this sort of thing in the past for Aussie parks covered by this, based on data from

Re: [talk-au] Question about source of low-resolution NearMap images

2011-01-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 17:01, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: I'm working out whether I am able to accept the new OSM terms. I haven't used the detailed NearMap aerial photos, but what I have used is a low-quality image at zoom 13 and 14. I used these images for the Kiewa River in

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features

2011-01-12 Thread James Livingston
On 12/01/2011, at 2:48 AM, John Smith wrote: Martin, for your information there was a bit of work done on this sort of thing in the past for Aussie parks covered by this, based on data from http://data.australia.gov.au I think. I uploaded the dataset I think you're referring to, after

Re: [Talk-br] Uso do StreetView para mapear POIs

2011-01-12 Thread Guilherme Guerra
http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps -- ?? ? Salaam Aleikum Guilherme Guerra de Almeidaguerri...@comum.org xmpp: guerri...@jabber-br.org http://comum.org http://guerrinha.comum.org On 12/22/2010 03:30 PM, Fabian Alejandro wrote:

Re: [Talk-br] Wiki

2011-01-12 Thread Diogo Nunes
Melhor ainda, se você sabe que é barro, coloca a tag de qualidade da pavimentação (não lembro o nome agora) Em 12/01/2011, às 18:55, Flavio Bello Fialho be...@cnpuv.embrapa.br escreveu: A orientação no Pt-br:Map_Features está muito ruim. A descrição no segundo link faz mais sentido, mas se

Re: [Talk-br] Wiki

2011-01-12 Thread Alexandre Parente Lima
Atualmente eu sigo o Map_Feature, acho que o resultado é melhor e por enquanto mais conveniente para quem usa os dados no gps. A tag citada pelo diogo é surface=*, acredito que usei pouca vezes :P Alexandre Parente Lima Em 12 de janeiro de 2011 19:10, Diogo Nunes dio...@diogow.com escreveu:

Re: [Talk-br] Wiki

2011-01-12 Thread Alexandre Parente Lima
Acredito também que não devemos criar um guia jaboticaba. Para quem nasceu depois de 1990 e nunca ouviu essa expressão: *Teoria da jabuticaba é tudo aquilo que só existe no Brasil, como essa saborosa fruta selvagem da respeitada família das mirtáceas (myrciaria jaboticaba). Isso significa, para

Re: [Talk-de] Frage zu ti...@home Windows

2011-01-12 Thread Carsten Moeller
Am 11.01.2011 23:37, schrieb Stephan Knauss: On 11.01.2011 19:52, Carsten Moeller wrote: War jetzt lange nicht mehr am Ball aber schau mal hier: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:windowscli...@home warum machst du das alles von Hand? Warum nicht einfach einen Doppelklick auf den Installer?

Re: [Talk-de] Tirex im Hintergrund rendern lassen

2011-01-12 Thread Karsten
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes: Hallo, On 01/11/2011 10:24 AM, Karsten wrote: hat jemand eine Ahnung, wie ich im Hintergrund veraltete Kacheln neu rendern kann und nicht erst, wenn sie im Browser neu angefordert werden. Ich habe mapnik/Tirex installiert Schau Dir mal

Re: [Talk-de] Exzessive Einzelrequests an die API

2011-01-12 Thread Chris66
Am 12.01.2011 01:31, schrieb Frederik Ramm: irgendein - pardon - Idiot bitte immer sachlich bleiben. ;-) sendet seit Tagen taeglich ueber 100.000 einzelne /api/0.6/node/123-Requests an die OSM-API. Die Person kommt aus Deutschland, aus dem Arcor/Vodafone-DSL-Dialin-Netz. Die IPs werden

Re: [Talk-de] GPX Track in Karte einblenden und schneiden

2011-01-12 Thread Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-01-11 23:11, Tirkon wrote: Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, einen GPX Track in eine Karte (z.B. OSM oder Google) einzublenden und dann Punkte (z.B. durch Aufziehen eines Rechteckes) geografisch bezogen rauszulöschen oder den Track zu teilen? Ein paar Programme sind im Wiki gelistet:

Re: [Talk-de] OpenRouteService mit direkter Adresseingabe

2011-01-12 Thread ant
Hallo, On 11.01.2011 23:38, Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: Hallo, Gibt es eine Möglichkeit Start und Ziel direkt beim Aufruf anzugeben? Etwa http://openrouteservice.org/such?start=meinort?ziel=deinort vielleicht hilft dir die Nur-Text-Version weiter:

Re: [Talk-de] Exzessive Einzelrequests an die API

2011-01-12 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Frederick, habt ihr die Möglichkeit die HTTP-Header mit zu loggen? Evtl. lässt sich daraus schon erste Schlüsse ziehen... Außerdem ist ein nmap über die zu sperrende IP-Adresse manchmal hilfreich. Desweiteren könnte man die IP mal bei einem Geolocationdienst auswerten lassen... MfG Andreas

Re: [Talk-de] Post offices near Lünen

2011-01-12 Thread Chris66
Am 11.01.2011 16:05, schrieb Chris66: mit post office near Lünen kriege ich ein Ergebnis; post offices geht offensichtlich tatsächlich nicht. Ticket erstellt. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3451 In der Wortliste (die jeder ergänzen darf!)

Re: [Talk-de] AIO selber bauen?

2011-01-12 Thread Christian Knorr
Am Donnerstag 23 Dezember 2010, um 07:30:03 schrieb Christian Knorr: weiß jemand ob 3 nebeneinander installierten Maps auf dem Oregon länderübergreifend routingfähig sind? Ja, das tut es. Habe DE, NL und BE separat drauf und gerade von D nach NL navigiert, das geht. [1]

Re: [Talk-de] Exzessive Einzelrequests an die API

2011-01-12 Thread Walter Nordmann
hi, eventuell wäre eine liste des interessensgebietes doch auch hilfreich. grast der z.b. eine bbox nach allen daten ab um die xapi zu umgehen oder macht er das weltweit wie ein bot, liesst er POIs ? macht er dann auf die gleiche art updates? da müsste er sich ja authentifizieren. ich vermute

Re: [Talk-de] Tirex im Hintergrund rendern lassen

2011-01-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 01/12/2011 12:41 PM, Karsten wrote: Schau Dir mal utils/tirex-create-stats-and-update-tiles.sh an, das kann das. Ich habe eine bessere Alternative gefunden. tirex-batch map=osm bbox=5,46,16,56 --filter older\(978328800\) z=12-16 Damit rendert er alle Kacheln neu, die älter als

Re: [Talk-de] Exzessive Einzelrequests an die API

2011-01-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 01/12/2011 01:20 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote: habt ihr die Möglichkeit die HTTP-Header mit zu loggen? Evtl. lässt sich daraus schon erste Schlüsse ziehen... Außerdem ist ein nmap über die zu sperrende IP-Adresse manchmal hilfreich. Desweiteren könnte man die IP mal bei einem

Re: [Talk-de] AIO selber bauen?

2011-01-12 Thread fla...@googlemail.com
Mit der Einführung von AIO-Tiles-Manager wird es in Zukunft möglich sein beliebige Teile von Europa auf seinem Gerät zu benutzen. Routing funktioniert zwischen den Kacheln. Außerdem kann man uninteressante Gebiete von Europa von seinem Gerät verbannen, sodass auch User ältere Geräte mit

Re: [Talk-de] Exzessive Einzelrequests an die API

2011-01-12 Thread Philip Gillißen
Chris66 wrote: Wie lange sind die IPs jeweils gesperrt? Da man damit ja auch Unschuldige trifft, sobald der Täter eine neue IP zieht. Ich denke, dass es sehr unwahrscheinlich ist, dass in der Zeit die IP aus dem Arcor-Pool jemandem zugeordnet wird, der dann eine solche Abfrage starten

Re: [Talk-de] Tirex im Hintergrund rendern lassen

2011-01-12 Thread Karsten
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes: Hallo, On 01/12/2011 12:41 PM, Karsten wrote: Schau Dir mal utils/tirex-create-stats-and-update-tiles.sh an, das kann das. Ich habe eine bessere Alternative gefunden. tirex-batch map=osm bbox=5,46,16,56 --filter older\(978328800\)

Re: [Talk-de] Tirex im Hintergrund rendern lassen

2011-01-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 01/12/2011 03:33 PM, Karsten wrote: Naja, ich weiß ja, welche Daten sich geändert haben, weil ich ja die diffs in Postgres mittels load-next einspiele Ah, ok, das Detail war mir unklar. Das ist natuerlich eine gute Methode, um Aenderungen schnell mitzukriegen. Dann hast Du im

[Talk-de] Mapper für Interviews (Do, ~15 U hr) gesucht, Erfassung und Lösung von Adressp roblemen

2011-01-12 Thread Alexander Steinhart / DThinking
Liebe OSM Community, für einen Design-Thinking Workshop in Rumänien zur “Weiterentwicklung eines Tools zur Erhöhung der Adressenqualität und -quantität in OSM” suchen wir spontan für morgen Mittag 4-8 interessierte Mapper die sich über Skype zum Thema Adresserfassung interviewen lassen. Ziel des

Re: [Talk-de] GEOFABRIK pbf Downloads nicht aktuell?

2011-01-12 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Moin, Frederik Ramm schrieb am 11.01.2011 20:25: Es scheint ein Problem mit dem GWDG-Mirror zu geben, der hat sich letzte Nacht keine neuen Daten geholt. Der Geofabrik-Server schickt Dich aber trotzdem dahin (im blinden Vertrauen darauf, dass dort die aktuellen Daten sind). Da wollte ich es

Re: [Talk-de] GEOFABRIK pbf Downloads nicht aktuell?

2011-01-12 Thread Henning Scholland
Hallo Heute früh hab ich europe.osm.bz2 von dort geladen. Ging ohne Probleme. Versuch ihn eftl. mal über http://... anzusprechen. So mach ich das immer. Viele Grüße, Henning Am 12.01.2011 16:33, schrieb Torsten Leistikow: Moin, Frederik Ramm schrieb am 11.01.2011 20:25: Es scheint ein

Re: [Talk-de] Exzessive Einzelrequests an die API

2011-01-12 Thread malenki
Philip Gillißen schrieb: Chris66 wrote: Wie lange sind die IPs jeweils gesperrt? Da man damit ja auch Unschuldige trifft, sobald der Täter eine neue IP zieht. Ich denke, dass es sehr unwahrscheinlich ist, dass in der Zeit die IP aus dem Arcor-Pool jemandem zugeordnet wird, der dann eine

Re: [Talk-de] Post offices near Lünen

2011-01-12 Thread Brian Quinion
mit post office near Lünen kriege ich ein Ergebnis; post offices geht offensichtlich tatsächlich nicht. Ticket erstellt. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3451 In der Wortliste  (die jeder ergänzen darf!) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Special_Phrases/EN ist die

Re: [Talk-de] GEOFABRIK pbf Downloads nicht aktuell?

2011-01-12 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Torsten Leistikow schrieb am 12.01.2011 16:33: Da wollte ich es dann heute noch mal mit den neusten Daten versuchen, aber so richtig gesund sieht ft5.gwdg.de nicht aus. Er antwortet zwar auf ein ping, und Index von ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/; bekomme ich im Feuerfuchs auch zu sehen, aber

Re: [Talk-de] Per Straßenname den Stadtteil herausf inden

2011-01-12 Thread Fabian Schmidt
Hallo! Am 10.01.11 schrieb ben: Ich hab gesehen, dass z.B. hier in Leipzig die Stadtteile nur mit einem Punkt gekennzeichnet sind. Würden dort Relationen oder sowas Sinn machen? Relationen wären sinnvoll, wenn Du die Grenzen kennst. Die Situation in Leipzig schildert

Re: [Talk-de] Post offices near Lünen

2011-01-12 Thread Chris66
Am 12.01.2011 17:01, schrieb Brian Quinion: The new word lists have not yet gone live. This problem was one of the reasons for creating the new wiki pages because previously we were missing plurals and variations. The version using the new wiki word lists will go live next week. In the

Re: [Talk-de] Post offices near Lünen

2011-01-12 Thread Brian Quinion
When searching Bank nah Lüdinghausen I get (money)banks and benches (Sitzbanken / amenity=bench) in the result list, because in german bank has this two meanings. About an hour ago I deleted the 'bank' = 'amenity=bench' mapping to remove some general problems it was causing. I agree this

Re: [Talk-de] Mapper für Interviews (Do, ~15 Uhr ) gesucht, Erfassung und Lösung von Adressprobl emen

2011-01-12 Thread Dermot McNally
Hallo Alex, Kurz weil vom iPhone geschickt, würde aber gerne mitmachen. Skype: dermotm Dermot On Wednesday, 12 January 2011, Alexander Steinhart / DThinking dthinking.a...@nder.info wrote: Liebe OSM Community, für einen Design-Thinking Workshop in Rumänien zur “Weiterentwicklung eines Tools

Re: [Talk-de] OpenRouteService mit direkter Adresseingabe

2011-01-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/12 fx99 f...@vollbio.de: mit http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/geocoder/ kann man ADressen in Koordinatenumwandeln. AFAIK ist das, da Google und Yahoo verwandt werden, lizenzmäßig nur frei wie in Bier. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Mapper für Interviews gesucht (Do, ~15 Uhr), Erfassung und Lösung von Adressp roblemen

2011-01-12 Thread Alexander Steinhart / DThinking
Cool, merci, Dermot! Wir haben nun 4 Leute, hätten aber gerne noch 2 um ein gutes Bild zu bekommen. Wer hat noch Lust/Zeit? lg PS: Es gibt als Dank für alle die teilnehmen einen 15 Euro Amazon Gutschein! 2011/1/12 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com Hallo Alex, Kurz weil vom iPhone

Re: [Talk-de] Exzessive Einzelrequests an die API

2011-01-12 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Die IPs zeigen alle nach Eschborn, aber das sagt nichts, der kann Es gibt auch Geolocationdienste, die nicht alle Arcor-Dialup-IPs in die Alfred-Herrhausen-Allee verorten. BTW: Ich sitze dort in Sichtweite, aber ich bin's nicht ;-) Jemand anders fragte nach der Dauer der Sperrung - im

Re: [Talk-de] Post offices near Lünen

2011-01-12 Thread Johann H. Addicks
it should return * Bank Volksbank Lüdinghausen * Sitzbank Südwiese Lüdinghausen It should ask did you mean 'Bankfiliale' or 'Sitzbank'?. Perhaps with respective links on the guggestions. -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] AIO selber bauen?

2011-01-12 Thread Christoph Wagner
Am 12.01.2011 14:55, schrieb fla...@googlemail.com: PS : Es gibt entsprechende Veröffentlichungen zur Benutzung und Funktion von AIOTM im OSMBLOg sobald das Tool fertig ist. Development! Development! Development! ;) Die Grundfunktionen gehen schon mal ein bisschen. Versuche noch einige

Re: [Talk-de] Per Straßenname den Stadtteil herausfind en

2011-01-12 Thread ben
Hallo Fabian, na das ist doch schonmal was! Vielen Dank dafür! Nun ist die Frage wie man die Daten wirklich sinnvoll verwursten kann (darf). Bei dem ersten Link könnte man das per Hand machen, da jede Begrenzung beschrieben wird. Leider is das Bild zu klein. Bei den anderen Links müsste man

Re: [Talk-de] unpräzise Beschreibung von access im Wiki

2011-01-12 Thread Simon Poole
Am 10.01.2011 16:08, schrieb Georg Feddern: Das agricultural=* kommt zwar vom Traktor-Symbol, bezieht sich aber ganz allgemein auf entsprechend langsame Fahrzeuge, wie auch in der Beschreibung angegeben (und siehe meine Beispiele). Ich geh davon aus, dass die Beschreibung (wie so oft)

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Stefano Droghetti
Ho anche notato che le piste ciclabili sono disegnate diversamente in alcuni punti della città: In alcune è segnato semplicemente highway=cycleway In altre è scritto così: highway=path bicycle=designated foot=designated Il Garmin mi fa andare con la macchina nelle seconde mentre invece non mi

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Federico Cozzi
2011/1/12 Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com: Ho anche notato che le piste ciclabili sono disegnate diversamente in alcuni punti della città: In alcune è segnato semplicemente highway=cycleway In altre è scritto così: highway=path bicycle=designated foot=designated Il Garmin

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Stefano Droghetti
Il giorno mer, 12/01/2011 alle 15.52 +0100, Federico Cozzi ha scritto: Ah che incubo highway=path! 1. il Garmin non dovrebbe farti andare in macchina su highway=path, letteralmente è un sentiero 2. quando fu inventato il tag highway=path non si capiva bene a che servisse, ci sono tante

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Marco Certelli
Ciao. Il fatto che il Garmin ti faccia andare su un path dipende da come è fatta la traduzione dei tag OSM in tag Garmin. Se provi a costruirti la mappa con CreateIMG (http://mce66.altervista.org/software.html#Open_Maps_for_Garmin_navigators) non solo il Garmin non ti manderà più sui path, ma

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Stefano Droghetti
Il giorno mer, 12/01/2011 alle 15.51 +, Marco Certelli ha scritto: Ciao. Il fatto che il Garmin ti faccia andare su un path dipende da come è fatta la traduzione dei tag OSM in tag Garmin. Se provi a costruirti la mappa con CreateIMG

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Federico Cozzi
2011/1/12 Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com: Oltretutto, ci sono anche alcuni controviali che hanno l'obbligo per le bici ma non hanno il divieto per le auto. :-O Questi controviali non sembrano essere piste ciclabili ma vie regolari, quindi li mapperei come highway=unclassified,

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 12 gennaio 2011 08:25, Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ultimamente in molte strade il mio Garmin mi dice Percorrendo Sentieri invece della giusta strada. La mappa è quella italiana scaricata da gfoss. Zona Ferrara. Ad esempio Viale IV Novembre. Accade sempre in

[Talk-it] problemi PCN con Merkaartor

2011-01-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Ciao, penso che qn. di vuoi usa Merkaartor, forse mi potete aiutare. Un utente tedesco mi ha scritto che non funziona il PCN da lui. Il suo messaggio (malamente tradotto al volo): ho letto questo http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Italy/PCN e fatto in Merkaartor: wiki Inserire

Re: [Talk-it] problemi PCN con Merkaartor

2011-01-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
intendevo voi ;-) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Marco Certelli
Sono curioso di sapere se funziona in wine. Se poi sei un esperto di linux, potresti tradurlo in uno script bash. Se ti serve aiuto, chiedi pure. Comunque queste sono le opzioni che uso io: java -enableassertions -Xmx1000m -jar ..\bin\splitter.jar --mapid=66%FID%001 --max-nodes=100

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 12 gennaio 2011 17:15, Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Sono un felice utilizzatore di Linux, e non ho tra famiglia e amici alcuna licenza di Windows ^_^ Comunque posso provare a vedere se gira con wine o se c'è un equivalente per Linux. In genere uso mkgmap con

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Marco Certelli
Ciao Luca, potresti pubblicare anche lo style (a meno che già non sia disponibile da qualche parte). Ciao, Marco. Da: Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com A: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Inviato: Mer 12 gennaio 2011, 17:55:41

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Stefano Droghetti
Il giorno mer, 12/01/2011 alle 17.48 +0100, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: certo, devo aggiustare la mappa :-) Nei prossimi giorni ci lavoro su... Aaaah ok ^_^ ecco perché :D Comunque, grazie ai suggerimenti degli utenti, ho fatto delle prove, e il metodo di mettere: highway=cycleway

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Federico Cozzi
2011/1/12 Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com: Mi chiedo, non si può tagliare la testa al toro e mettere un qualche tag che dica dove le auto NON possono andare? Magari fosse tutto così semplice... 1. puoi sempre mettere, su ciascuna strada dove le auto non sono ammesse, il tag

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread MorSi
Ah che incubo highway=path! highway=cycleway bicycle=official foot=official ma perchè usando la preimpostazione di JOSM con il cartello blu mi risulta invece highway=path bicycle=designaded foot=designaded ??? morsi ___ Talk-it mailing

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Stefano Droghetti
Il giorno mer, 12/01/2011 alle 18.15 +0100, Stefano Droghetti ha scritto: Comunque, grazie ai suggerimenti degli utenti, ho fatto delle prove, e il metodo di mettere: highway=cycleway foot=official cycleway=official per le ciclabili funziona benissimo. Il Garmin non pensa più di essere

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Fabri
Il -10/01/-28163 20:59, Federico Cozzi ha scritto: 2011/1/12 Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com: Ho anche notato che le piste ciclabili sono disegnate diversamente in alcuni punti della città: In alcune è segnato semplicemente highway=cleway In altre è scritto così: highway=th

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Federico Cozzi
2011/1/12 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: Siete sicuri che sia giusto cambiare i tag della ciclabile per non far sbagliare il Garmin? Su JOSM il preset per le ciclabili miste (bici + pedoni) è quello con highway=path e bicycle=designated  foot=designated segregated=yes/no Premesso che, come dicevo,

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Marco Certelli
Non mi sembra il modo giusto di operare. Se non dobbiamo mappare per il render, figuriamoci se dobbiamo mappare per la mappa garmin fatta in un modo invece che in un altro. Secondo me la mappa OSM non va toccata (soprattutto se è solo per mettere un tag implicito). E' chi produce la

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Stefano Droghetti
Il giorno mer, 12/01/2011 alle 17.48 +, Marco Certelli ha scritto: Non mi sembra il modo giusto di operare. Se non dobbiamo mappare per il render, figuriamoci se dobbiamo mappare per la mappa garmin fatta in un modo invece che in un altro. Secondo me la mappa OSM non va toccata

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Federico Cozzi
2011/1/12 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: Non mi sembra il modo giusto di operare. Se non dobbiamo mappare per il render, figuriamoci se dobbiamo mappare per la mappa garmin fatta in un modo invece che in un altro. No, aspetta. C'è il solito fraintendimento di base su non mappare per

Re: [Talk-it] Percorrendo sentieri

2011-01-12 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il 12 gennaio 2011 18:55, Stefano Droghetti ha scritto: Comunque io adesso non sto cambiando i tag, sto solo aggiungendo motorcar=no alle zone in cui è vietato per le auto, il che mi sembra anche plausibile. O no? no, seguendo questo ragionamento se scopri che il router ti manda in macchina

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