Re: [talk-au] Should a "trail" route relation be one-way?

On 5/9/22 15:52, stevea wrote: BTW, I very much recommend using JOSM as your preferred editor when editing relations, especially route relations. IMO, the route relation editor in JOSM is superior to all others. Don't forget to click the "sort relation" button as a last step in the

Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks

On 25/8/22 15:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 at 11:43, Josh Marshall wrote: I tasked the kid with drawing the ideal surf map, and he’s really stuck into it… and it’s given me more to think about how the features should be drawn. Please do share when ready,

Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks

On 24/8/22 20:45, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, non-Australian and non-surfer here but please remember that stuff you map in OSM must be reasonably verifiable. If you map a great surf spot which only exists when some external conditions align, then it might be hard for others to verify (they'd

Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks

On 23/8/22 18:15, Josh Marshall wrote: tl;dr - I’m interested in getting more surfing-centric tagging into OSM, hopefully leading to an open surfing map. And want to check on what would be appropriate. In an analogous way to how cycling is treated, along with trail running, my own sports of

Re: [talk-au] hills hoists

On 21/8/22 19:52, Warin wrote: On 21/8/22 19:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just having a look & an "umbrella" clothes line seems to be an inverted Hills Hoist, with the ends of the poles / lines higher than the centre. Can't think of a better choice of words though? T

Re: [talk-au] hills hoists

there to use something else. Thanks Graeme On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 at 17:58, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: HI, I recently saw the shadow of one of these while mapping and wondered how to map it. It did stand out. Turns out the Russians have a tag for it …  a

[talk-au] hills hoists

HI, I recently saw the shadow of one of these while mapping and wondered how to map it. It did stand out. Turns out the Russians have a tag for it …  amenity=clothes_dryer only some 300 uses world wide clothes_dryer=umbrella bugger all of these world wide

Re: [talk-au] Adding river crossings to Guidelines "road quality / 4wd-only"?

On 10/8/22 12:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Cleared a note to add a ford / river-crossing to a road in Cape York: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1025490234, & added both a "ford" node, & also changed the actual river crossing to a track with 4wd only & similar tags. I am getting less

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Gazetted Road Routes (National, State, Regional...)

On 11/8/22 16:19, Phil Wyatt wrote: I also looked at this briefly in Tasmania but couldn't see a lot of consistent use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:network This also suggests that maybe the networks should also be country and state based, especially if different signage is used

Re: [talk-au] Adding river crossings to Guidelines "road quality / 4wd-only"?

On 11/8/22 09:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 at 02:13, Bob Cameron wrote: eg a section of road (as a ford way - often concrete) has to be joined to the crossing stream. That's why I changed the section of road crossing teh river to a track, with extra

Re: [talk-au] Tagging silos?

On 10/8/22 09:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just been adding some details around here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-26.55047/151.82936 . They should all be tagged as silos, but I'm not sure about mapping every one

Re: [talk-au] Surf Clubs & Lifesavers (Prv: Head or point on non-coastal land)

On 2/8/22 08:59, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 18:22, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 1/8/22 13:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: That particular premises carries the name "Tugun SLSC" across the top of the building as can be seen

Re: [talk-au] suspicious edits in Victoria need reverting?

On 1/8/22 09:58, Adam Horan wrote: There's a small chance that they're proposed roads, but most likely they're made up. I think all 3 changesets from this user need reverting. However the names are suitable for the areas where they've been added, so someone has put some work into it.

Re: [talk-au] Surf Clubs & Lifesavers (Prv: Head or point on non-coastal land)

On 1/8/22 13:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 17:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I have a similar difficulty with club=surf_life_saving, emergency=lifesaver, lifesaver=base ... as that does not render. If put on the building then th

Re: [talk-au] Head or point on non-coastal land

On 28/7/22 08:11, Tom Brennan wrote: On 26/07/2022 5:27 pm, Warin wrote: I have done a few of these along the Gross Valley. In many cases there is a peak and I have taken the view that the 'head' is the top of the peak.  I did have a look at those. In general I would disagree with the 'head

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "secret" facilities?

On 27/7/22 17:13, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: is it clearly signposted as cannabis factory farm at its location? No. A friend of mine went past such a farm on a back road... and was pulled over for questioning.. just for going past. There are no signs nor any publicity about

Re: [talk-au] Head or point on non-coastal land

On 26/7/22 07:16, Tom Brennan wrote: What tag do you recommend using for heads or points that are away from the coast? There seem to be a variety of methods people have used, none of them particularly satisfactory: 1. Map them as a peak eg Catt Head: natural=peak

Re: [talk-au] Well I bought an L1/L5 Mouse GPS

On 23/6/22 11:45, Alex Sims wrote: Hi, I’ve now got a relatively (<$100 + postage) Mouse GPS. It is amazingly accurate. That’s the good news. Now I can see a whole bunch of streets, buildings etc out by 1-5 meters as **some** features were traced without correcting the image offset. Also

Re: [talk-au] How to create an exception for buses where way tag is [parking:lane:left = no_stopping] ?

On 16/6/22 15:59, Andrew Harvey wrote: I wouldn't worry about trying to map that because, if there is a bus stop then the bus will always be able to stop to drop off / pick up customers regardless of the no_stopping. Should be able to stop in the buss stop. A local family to me park in a

Re: [talk-au] Re-naming multi-site conservation reserves

On 16/5/22 20:31, Little Maps wrote: Hi folks, some advice please… In the CAPAD import of conservation reserves, multi-site reserves (those that include many patches, often a long way apart ) all seem to be given the generic name of the entire reserve network - e.g. “ South West Woodland

Re: [talk-au] UK's Ordnance Survey to launch mapping app in Australia

On 23/2/21 12:19, Andrew Davidson wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/22/uk-ordnance-survey-launch-mapping-app-iustralia If you're not prepared to pay for the subscription it is a rather rubbish experience. You get a MapBox tile layer and laughably low-res aerial imagery. _

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

On 8/10/21 17:41, Andrew & Ingrid Parker wrote: Thank you everyone. It is clear now that it is OK to have an area inside or overlapping another area. That is logical and contrary to what I had been told by another mapper. It may be the case that I misunderstood what they were saying.

[talk-au] Brisbane Cricket Ground

Hi, I have made some tagging changes to 'The Gabba' Firstly I think this refers to both the playing and spectating area so have placed those tags on the outer way see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4049692. The building and playing areas remain but are not named. I have added a

Re: [talk-au] Country homesteads?

On 26/4/22 09:33, Bob Cameron wrote: So I'll ask some assistance from a mass edit guru here... I'd like to change all my own landuse:farm nodes to place:farm, leaving all child keys as they are. Since I only use ID is there anyone can help do this? Does it require any kind of formal

Re: [talk-au] Country homesteads?

On 23/4/22 20:01, stevea wrote: I don’t know what Oz'll end up doing, but I’ve been mapping landuse=farm, which became landuse=farmland, since 2009. I’ve also used landuse=farmyard (renders in Carto as a “stronger tan-orange” compared to “faint orange” for farmland), but I initially

Re: [talk-au] Country homesteads?

On 23/4/22 11:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks all! Yeah, the various wiki comments re size as always are very European & don't suit Oz conditions. I think that place=farm + name=* seems to be the way to go, so I'll test that & see how it works? One of the factors in OP making them

Re: [talk-au] Country homesteads?

Traditionally the 'homestead' is the main residential building and is usually named the same or similar to the farm. I have been mapping in NSW the building as building=farm and name=x from the DCS Base Map for location and name with DCS Imagery for the footprint. When you zoom in on the Base

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

On 9/4/22 09:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 18:44, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Just try things out, control+Z to undo the last command .. you can even press it a few times to go back a bit further. Oh yes, ctrl+Z has had lot's

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

The complete download for the coastline of Australia takes ages. The India Pacific train line takes a little less. That is why only 'parts of interest' are downloads automatically - save time and load on the servers. The great thing about computers is you can play with them, provided you

Re: [talk-au] Bicycle access tags in Victoria was HighRouleur edits

: Thanks Warin, pedantic mode is appreciated, but what position do you support? Presumably leave a path as a path and do not change it to a footway? Tony Bicycles are allowed on footpaths in Victoria   .  .  . if rider has a medical or other exemption allowing them to ride on the footpath

Re: [talk-au] Precedence of alt naming

I'd hope (no proof!) that the DCS map uses the Geographical Name Register (GNR) of NSW for the name. The 'local name' might be just that - used locally. Both 'names' need to be recorded. On 7/4/22 09:59, Andrew Harvey wrote:

Re: [talk-au] "Road names" around airports

And possibly description=* could be used. In any case .. those don't appear to be 'names'. On 26/3/22 13:44, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Sound like destinations, not road names. Is destination=* suitable? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination Tony Have spotted 2 notes

Re: [talk-au] Turn restrictions

On 23/3/22 17:34, Luke Stewart wrote: Hi Gavin, If buses are the only vehicles allowed on the stem (via no entry signs, etc), then you can apply an access restriction on the way and do not need turn restrictions. However if turns are prohibited from dome directions and not others (e.g., a

Re: [talk-au] Mapping easements

There are lots of different types of easements. Other than buried gas pipe lines there are; buried optical fiber lines over head power lines, and access tracks to them public roads through property (farms, State Forests, National Parks etc) private access through one or more properties to

Re: [talk-au] "Illegal", & "asked to be closed" tracks?

Illegally constructed ... who says? Never mind. The land owner/controller would be the one to contact. Ask about access in general terms - everyone, private, permissive.. The method of transportation over the track is a separate issue ... There maybe access considerations for them too ..

Re: [talk-au] Charter boats & similar mapped as ferry terminals?

More than I wanted to know https://consultation.casa.gov.au/regulatory-program/draft-ac-139-f-01-v1-0/supporting_documents/Draft%20AC%20139.F01%20v1.0.PDF I was thinking that a seaplane would be safer 'beached' in a storm... but I could not find anything easily. According to CASA the water

Re: [talk-au] People's views on naming on and off ramps.

On 28/2/22 13:40, Andrew Harvey wrote: Something like "Mickleham Road Offramp" sounds like a description to me rather than a name. Unless the ramp has a special name just for the ramp that is different to either road, then I think we should leave off the name, and as you suggest use the

Re: [talk-au] Driver-Reviver?

NSW Better off making your own or a proper cafe. In short - well intended but not worth the bother. They are only present during 'holiday peaks' ... not certain if they are always at the same locations. On 26/2/22 16:01, cleary wrote: Perhaps others have different perceptions but the

Re: [talk-au] Complaint re OSM navigation

I have responded on the note. "Navigation by any map is dangerous. A map is an indication." and so on. I have suggested that the track be tagged as access=private from that node westwards. They do look to be more than communicative. On 24/2/22 20:15, Andrew Davidson wrote: So common it's

Re: [talk-au] 2377 occurrences of fixme="unknown type of water crossing"

ford yes Tnx On 23/2/22 19:08, Warin wrote: Where these are in NSW the DCS Base Map shows where bridges are present. Some culverts become fords in flood situations, and floods are quite possible with intermittent waterways so tagging as both a culvert and food way may be best where

Re: [talk-au] 2377 occurrences of fixme="unknown type of water crossing"

Where these are in NSW the DCS Base Map shows where bridges are present. Some culverts become fords in flood situations, and floods are quite possible with intermittent waterways so tagging as both a culvert and food way may be best where this occurs. Personally I'd leave them alone, other

Re: [talk-au] Lakes around Mungo National Park

On 22/2/22 18:55, Warin wrote: On 22/2/22 09:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 17:30, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: DCS Topo Legend https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mholling/nswtopo-legends/master/nsw.png Personally, I think the dry-lake propos

Re: [talk-au] Lakes around Mungo National Park

On 22/2/22 09:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 17:30, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: DCS Topo Legend https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mholling/nswtopo-legends/master/nsw.png Personally, I think the dry-lake proposal has a lot going for it - ma

Re: [talk-au] Lakes around Mungo National Park

-dry at other times. I think I am probably the person who mapped Lake Leaghur, among others but not Mungo. I have also mapped areas including up to Ivanhoe, so I may have been the person mapping other areas that Warin has mentioned. One of the issues is the frequency of water in the rivers

Re: [talk-au] train tour

On 21/2/22 09:41, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 18:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Some of ours, such as the India Pacific, are tourist only, I thought the IP also delivered some freight / supplies to the "towns" (alright - fl

[talk-au] Lakes around Mungo National Park

Hi, There are inconsistencies in tagging of 'lakes' around Mungo national Park... The DCS base map show them as lakes ... I am not certain what the DCS Topo map is showing .. but they all the same. I think it is 'intermittent lake' over 'sand'? A water lake one - name     Lake Mungo

Re: [talk-au] train tour

On 20/2/22 11:29, stevea wrote: On Feb 19, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Someone is mapping a 'train tour' into OSM. Should such things be mapped? Yes. As someone who extensively maps rail infrastructure relations (route=railway) as well as both passenger

[talk-au] train tour

Hi, Someone is mapping a 'train tour' into OSM. Should such things be mapped? See https://openstreetmap.org/relation/13806704 - note incomplete as yet. Humm they have mapped a few of them and they appear to be 'regular' services - not one offs as I thought.

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

On 13/2/22 14:18, osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: There is also that he seems to be deleting all source tags on any loaded objects with many of his changesets. I wrote a changeset comment on one of the changesets that do that, When I make a change I delete the source tag when I'm

Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

On unpaved roads - they can close at any time there is rain. Some mine sites also close access roads with rain, some locals think thye close them way too often. There are also councils that close roads - placing signs on them where accessible from paved roads. Some of the councils have

Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

On 9/2/22 16:19, Ian Steer wrote: >> I prefer hiking_scale:awtgs= as you know that it is a hiking scale .. >> even if you don't know what awtgs is. >> >Fair comment. > >> Routes are a different problem while the worst one could be >> included .. what happens if/when things change?

Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

On 8/2/22 12:29, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 09:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: I think either awtgs= or hiking_scale:awtgs= are fine, I'd say just pick one and start a wiki page describing the tag and how it's used. Personally, I like awtgs=*. I prefer

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

On 6/2/22 00:23, Stéphane Guillou via Talk-au wrote: I used to use addr:housename heavily to tag any building name, especially houses and apartment blocks, but I tend to just use the "name" key now when tagging residential buildings, maybe just because it's more readily available in the

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

ouseholder, there was no letter box. This was in a time before phones, letters were the main form of communication .. in populated areas letter delivery could take place twice a day. On 2022-02-04 06:31, Warin wrote: On 4/2/22 17:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I've always listed the name of

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

On 4/2/22 10:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 19:32, wrote: I assume these National parks where different rules are in effect have a boundary relation. In which case it would be possible to either: a) tag a def: directly on that boundary relation with

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

On 4/2/22 17:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I've always listed the name of units & so on just as name=*. +1 No longer used as the address, used 2 centuries ago. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 16:14, Mat Attlee wrote: Whilst I was out surveying today I stumbled upon a

Re: [talk-au] Information source question - sorry kind of lengthy.

On 2/2/22 20:20, stevea wrote: On Feb 2, 2022, at 12:41 AM, Bob Cameron wrote: MR358 or Coulsons Creek Road between Willow Tree and Merriwa NSW is closed for repair of major slippage as it crosses the Liverpool Ranges. "Livetraffic" (Traffic for NSW govt site) says not reopening until late

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Sydney bus stops

On 2/2/22 18:24, cleary wrote: I suggest leaving the bus stop ID number in the format that Andrew initially stated, ref=20 (rather than ref:stand=A) As a regular used of buses (pre-covid), I think "Stand A" etc needs to be part of the name. At some locations, the stands are a block or

Re: [talk-au] sac_scale [Was: Deletion of walking tracks/paths]

On 27/1/22 09:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 18:01, Andrew Harvey wrote: Obviously river conditions change, but I think it's useful to tag what's usually the case: 1. creek crossing where generall the water level is so low that you won't have water

Re: [talk-au] sac_scale [Was: Deletion of walking tracks/paths]

On 26/1/22 19:01, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 10:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 19:39, Andrew Harvey wrote: If I were to design the ideal tag for Australia, it would be something like: technicality=0-3 0.

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of walking tracks/paths

On 26/1/22 10:04, Andy Townsend wrote: On 25/01/2022 22:43, David Wales via Talk-au wrote: 2. Practically invisible on the ground, except for bits of red tape hanging from tree branches every 50-100 metres! Every 50-100 meters?  Luxury! :) My recollection is that the signage on the bits of

Re: [talk-au] OSM Notes

On 26/1/22 14:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Changing subject from tracks for a minute :-), I was reading the weekly Newsletter yesterday & spotted this article https://www-openstreetmap-org.translate.goog/user/AngocA/diary/398423?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=EN&_x_tr_hl=en-GB

[talk-au] Removing platform for bus stops Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 175, Issue 22

On 19/1/22 5:15 pm, Nick Hocking wrote: Anthony wrote "Creating new Bus Stop nodes Is the consensus to remove the plaform tags from new nodes?" I'm not sure I understand. If you are creating a new bus stop node, then there won't be any tags to remove, platform or otherwise. I think he

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed, undocumented mass edit across all of Australia.

On 13/1/22 5:47 pm, osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116091398 To quote my changeset comment: This undiscussed, undocumented mass edit that didn't follow the

Re: [talk-au] US Trails Working Group

On 9/1/22 1:34 pm, Tom Brennan wrote: This is certainly a problem, and having walked in Utah, there are certainly some specific problems with walking off track there. However, it seems that land managers are looking at the threat without seeing the opportunity. Yes, unauthorised trails get

Re: [talk-au] US Trails Working Group

On 3/1/22 10:59 pm, stevea wrote: Mmm, mostly, I’d say, Warin. But let’s be careful not to encourage “only what my use cases are” too much. When you say “if it cannot be seen from a public, customer or permissive place then I don't really care to map it,” I ask for caution with this sort

Re: [talk-au] US Trails Working Group

On 3/1/22 5:00 pm, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Folks, Definitely worth a follow especially if you have an interest in informal tracks/paths/pads and maybe even historical routes that don’t appear on the ground. I certainly don’t agree with all their statements (especially …. /Good coverage of all

Re: [talk-au] First Nations flags?

There are quite a few Australian flags ... some not 'official'. I was aware of this 'one', but not that it is the only flag in the world for a river? http://www.murrayriver.com.au/about-the-murray/murray-river-flag/ The inuit also have some flags (6?)

Re: [talk-au] First Nations flags?

On 17/12/21 9:19 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks everyone for your thoughts! As I said, I flicked an e-mail to the PM & C Department but so far, not even an acknowledgement, let alone an answer :-( I'll give that another week or so till the New Year! & try a different address. Good

Re: [talk-au] Australian Aboriginal flag preset

On 14/12/21 9:04 pm, Mat Attlee wrote: I noticed there is no entry for the Australian Aboriginal flag in the NSI guide so I've created a PR https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/pull/5856 Any feedback would be

Re: [talk-au] First Nations flags?

On 13/12/21 9:34 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 at 17:23, Andrew Davidson > wrote: flag:name=Australian Aboriginal flag:wikidata=Q1285625 flag:name=Torres Strait Islander flag:wikidata=Q462621 Thanks for that info, Andrew.

Re: [talk-au] First Nations flags?

On 13/12/21 4:38 pm, Mark Rattigan wrote: I may be nit-picking, but (as I understand it) the Australian Aboriginal Flag and Torres Strait Islander Flag have been recognised as the flags of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people of Australia and as flags of significance to the

Re: [talk-au] First Nations flags?

There is a claim of copyright ob the Aboriginal flag.. (foolish if you ask me)... Oh and also the Torres Strait Islander one too... (sigh) Both are listed as copyright on wikipedia. So those are out for OSM? On 13/12/21 1:53 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 08:34,

Re: [talk-au] admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?

On 29/11/21 9:34 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Would villages / hamlets ie small country towns, also then be level 8? If so, that would help with the vast expanses of nothingness as villages don't get shown, despite them being the main (only!) centre for 00's of k's! Localities? Level

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

More inclined to use description=invisible route on beach sand. On 26/11/21 2:12 pm, osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: Possibly path=link? *From:*Andrew Harvey *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2021 12:34 *To:* Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> *Cc:* OSM Australian Talk List *Subjec

Re: [talk-au] Lots of identical changesets for toll roads (possibly incorrect).

On 26/11/21 11:36 am, Jake Coppinger wrote: Hello, I noticed I was getting bad OSM car directions which avoided General Holmes Dr (the east/west road under Sydney airport). I checked OverpassTurbo and it's been marked as a toll road (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1ds0

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

On 26/11/21 7:16 am, Tom Brennan wrote: Quick question on unconnected ways. I've just mapped one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1006252416 Probably best viewed in edit mode with an aerial photo underlay. This way is a physical path between two open grassed areas that themselves have no

Re: [talk-au] Use of pedestrian streets to imply route hierarchy

On 21/11/21 2:41 pm, stevea wrote: I repeat something I have said a number of times, say for example, about bicycle infrastructure / routes. Although it can be said about "pedestrian infrastructure / routes" pretty much one-for-one (as bicycle infrastructure / routes). It is this: There

Re: [talk-au] Gas mining area - road access tags

On 17/11/21 12:28 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 08:09, Bob Cameron > wrote: Would it be a fair statement to say that gas mining areas are all private access? eg. around Condamine Qld there are a lot of them that often

Re: [talk-au] Is it a fence?

1 at 20:50, Andrew Davidson mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 15/11/21 20:28, Warin wrote: > What else would you call it? A tall fence? > > I'd tag it barrier=fence height=40 I'd also say fence. But that's a 6 story a

Re: [talk-au] Splitting Ways for small roundabout traffic islands

On 15/11/21 6:18 pm, Dian Ågesson wrote: Hello, Quick question, as I'm not sure that there is an established consensus in Australia for this. Where a way leading to a roundabout has a small traffic island, what is the preferred way to map? I have seen both the "traffic island as a node"

Re: [talk-au] Is it a fence?

On 15/11/21 6:23 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: So, that's the question - is it still a barrier=fence when it's ~40m tall? :-) https://goo.gl/maps/jwwJjREMKDmVKqkj9 What else would you call it? A tall fence? I'd tag it barrier=fence height=40

Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

On 9/11/21 9:57 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: We have a tag for this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type +1. Housing estates are simply pieces of land that have been developed and sub divided by a 'developer' - once

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

, disappointing. -Original Message- From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 29 October 2021 10:05 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park) Some renders can show the difference. OSMand has a

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

On 30/10/21 10:19 am, EON4wd wrote: As part of this discussion I would like to know how to handle illegal motor bike tracks through the bush. I have found that these can often be mapped as a track, as these can be seen clearly on a satellite photo. They are definitely on the ground and

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

On 29/10/21 9:42 pm, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Folks, In this case I would again defer to the locals who are working with the local land managers. Some of the tracks in question have been closed for years and its likely in the case of any search and rescue then the same people who removed the

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

On 29/10/21 9:33 pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Frederik, Thorsten 1. "a park manager would prefer them not to, and therefore deletes the track in order to keep people from exercising their rights". Does this happen, has it ever happened? I would be surprised if it happened here.

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

On 29/10/21 3:58 pm, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Folks, In this case the user name of NTCA is a bit of a hint. Took me a couple of minutes to find this group https://www.facebook.com/nerangtrailcare/ - Nerang Trail Care Alliance In this case I would

Re: [talk-au] Emergency markers licence?

To 'get it right' simply go to the location where (you think) it is and survey it. You can use what ever copyright source yo want to find something, but having found it then the location has beeen surveyed by you and has no copyright on that survey (unless you want to put one on it). On

Re: [talk-au] Source material.

On 19/10/21 8:37 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 20:11, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: It does not have 'State Forests' ... unfortunately. Ah I confused "State Park" with "State Forest". Yep. All rat

Re: [talk-au] Source material.

On 19/10/21 12:12 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: That would be great Ian. If you find that some useful datasets aren't covered under the Vicmap CC BY waiver, but are CC BY licensed then we can request an updated waiver to cover them. Andrew Parker, it looks like State Parks for VIC are included in

Re: [talk-au] Source material.

My mail program has, I think, finally caught up with this... so; On 18/10/21 9:33 am, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Andrew Speaking as another relatively inexperienced editor, don't be too disheartened. "I used MapShareVic" It takes a bit of getting used to but OSM is very fussy about

Re: [talk-au] Monitoring admin boundaries Was: Re: Mapping tree cover

On 11/10/21 8:16 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 9/10/21 10:54 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: Andrew Davidson has been keeping an eye on changes and doing some updates. I've updated a few I noticed changed in NSW. I checked the existing boundaries in NSW/SA/ACT/TAS last year before the other

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

Hi, I removed the tree tagging from the National Park boundary. This had caused people to exclude water areas from the Park - which is not true. IIRC Graham objected to the now blank landcover. I did go back and created landcovers for the general area. This was quite some time ago! If

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

On 5/10/21 8:53 pm, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: Hi Adam, On 5/10/21 10:23 am, Adam Horan wrote: Hi Kim, highway = pedestrian is for pedestrianised roads/areas rather then footpaths/sidewalks/pavements for those I think the current tag is highway=footway. I only included

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

On 5/10/21 2:57 pm, Sebastian Azagra Flores via Talk-au wrote: I was referring to working within OSM and seeing brown dotted vs blue dotted lines for a path. Pardon. But OSM is a data base, not really a map. The "default OSM map" is a guide as to what a map might look like to be used by

Re: [talk-au] Way errors in Quilpie Qld

On 2/10/21 5:27 pm, Bob Cameron wrote: I am currently near this nice quiet place and am leaving shortly. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-26.6176/144.2666 I note that there is a fairly large discrepancy between some of the roads and the public GPS traces. The main E-W highway is also

Re: [talk-au] In-water fences?

There are fences for long distances in/on (depending on water level) Lake George (near Canberra). There are also fences across water ways. They are all stock control so barrier=fence is the correct tag there. Just chose the most appropriate tag. On 19/9/21 8:27 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags

On 20/9/21 6:29 pm, Karl Cheng wrote: On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 23:16, > wrote: Well, that pretty much matches what I said before: Anything that remotely looks like a footpath (is meant for people to walk on) is, in the absence of one of the

Re: [talk-au] Breaking a beach?

On 15/9/21 4:38 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 15 Sept 2021 at 13:48, Andrew Harvey > wrote: It's a tricky one, and I would say there is no perfect solution here. Going by the one feature, one OSM element guide

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