Re: [Talk-it] Parlano di noi su Repubblica :-)

2017-09-27 Thread Luca Delucchi
On 27 September 2017 at 15:34, Matteo Zaffonato wrote: > http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2017/09/27/news/dai_beni_confiscati_alla_street_art_tutti_pazzi_per_crowd_mapping-176618750/ > Qualcuno ha il contatto dell'autrice del pezzo? > Ciao > Matteo > -- ciao Luca

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Présentation

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Christophe Becquet
Le 27/09/2017 21:01, Cédric Frayssinet a écrit : > Merci pour ta remarque. Du coup, cela a fait évolué notre site puisque > nous venons d'y installer un plugin SPIP qui permet à chaque auteur de > choisir sa licence, pratique. > > Il est donc passé en CC BY-SA. Super ! Merci Cédric, je me

Re: [OSM-co] Abreviaturas

2017-09-27 Thread Andres Gomez Casanova
Buenas noches, Con respecto a la nomenclatura de las calles, se deben seguir los estándares de OSM de no mapear para el render, sino que el render se ajuste a los datos, como se explica en este artículo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer

[Talk-us] Mappy Hour / Many Mappy Minutes

2017-09-27 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, We had our first virtual mappy hour tonight and it was a lot of fun to chat with fellow mappers. I wrote a short diary post about it, also announcing the next edition on November 1: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/42393 Martijn

Re: [OSM-co] Abreviaturas

2017-09-27 Thread Fredy Rivera
2017-09-27 17:55 GMT-05:00 Jorge Aguirre : > Buenas tardes amigos OSM! > Hola > > Esta semana pasada visitamos Bogotá para agregar nombres faltantes en las > calles. Nos encontramos con que, aunque hay muchas variantes en la forma > escrita de los nombres que se encuentran

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada & State of the Map US: Oct 20-22

2017-09-27 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2017-09-27 05:49 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > Hi, > > Are any Canadian folks going to State of the Map US October 20-22 > https://2017.stateofthemap.us/ Nope. Wish I could afford it. > During the conference, I would like to have a discussion about turning > the informal

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2017-09-27 07:00 PM, john whelan wrote: > No we need to persuade the municipalities to move to the new standard > license in the TB kit Is this initiative published anywhere, John? I virtually attended the conference it was supposed to be announced at, and all there is is Jean-Noé's

Re: [Talk-pe] Poder sumar a la Conferencia Estadística de las Américas

2017-09-27 Thread Javier Carranza
Hola Omar, Seguimos trabajando en esto para el Censo ofreciendo nuestra ayuda a Anibal Sanchez , el Dire de INEI. Ya les dimos apoyo haciendo un app para levantar datos en terreno pero todavía no conocemos los resultados. Tambien preparamos una declaración para la próxima CEA y de hecho hemos

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/09/2017 18:08, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:   When data consumers want to get a link to corresponding wikipedia article, doing that with wikipedia[:xx] tags is straightforward. Doing the same with wikidata requires additional pointless and time consuming abrakadabra. no, you

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2017 19:47, Marc Gemis wrote: Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Simply because some people had suggested that "brand:wikidata" was unnecessary because you could always work out what brand

[Talk-de] Raiffeisen

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Angestoßen durch eine Diskussion auf tagging über Händler von „Agrarbedarf“ habe ich mir ein paar Raiffeisen in Deutschland angesehen und leider festgestellt, dass das kaum bedeutungsvoll getaggt ist. Meistens sind nur der Name und landuse tags (wahlweise industrial, retail, farmyard oder

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread James
municipalities will follow what the federal is doing. ideally everything would be public domain, but that would be a utopian world. forget them switching to ODbL, most people have no idea about it and is very restrictive when you want to change licenses in the future. On Sep 27, 2017 7:01 PM,

Re: [Talk-se] Ändra linknummer på E-vägar

2017-09-27 Thread Andreas Vilén
Att nvdb blivit öppen data är förstås inget skäl till att plocka bort data från osm, utan snarare tvärtom att tillföra mer data. Dessutom är osm-databasen öppen för tillägg vilket imdb inte är. /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone > 25 sep. 2017 kl. 09:54 skrev Mats Elfström

Re: [Talk-se] Ändra linknummer på E-vägar

2017-09-27 Thread Andreas Vilén
Fast de vägar som är länkvägar är väl inte skyltade E4 osv med ifyllda ramar utan streckade? Då dessa vägsträckor inte är en del av själva e-vägen utan har ett internt nummer bör dessa nog inte skyltas med huvudnumret. Jag tror att skälet till att dessa nummer, liksom de sekundära länsvägarna,

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread john whelan
No we need to persuade the municipalities to move to the new standard license in the TB kit and I think Stats will have better success that we will in the first instance also Open-Ouvert could probably let us know which municipalities have expressed an interest in the new license. Cheerio John

[OSM-co] Abreviaturas

2017-09-27 Thread Jorge Aguirre
Buenas tardes amigos OSM! Esta semana pasada visitamos Bogotá para agregar nombres faltantes en las calles. Nos encontramos con que, aunque hay muchas variantes en la forma escrita de los nombres que se encuentran físicamente en las calles, la constante parecieran ser las abreviatras en los

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread Alan Richards
It's still a different license for each city, province, or organisation, and the current opinion is that each different license needs to go through the same multi-month review to be approved for OSM. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, john whelan wrote: > T.B. have what

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread john whelan
T.B. have what they call a Municipal Open Data kit which basically has the same license as the city of Ottawa uses plus how to use it. Cheerio John On 27 September 2017 at 18:40, Stewart Russell wrote: > But they can't use OGL-CA v2 cos municipalities aren't federal. And >

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2017, at 23:09, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > > Martin, that specific Wikidata item may have some, possibly incomplete data, > that can be easily fixed, but that's irrelevant. As I keep saying - the > wikidata and wikipedia tags are no

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread James
Stewart i meant a license based on v2. As toronto is based on v1 On Sep 27, 2017 6:40 PM, "Stewart Russell" wrote: > But they can't use OGL-CA v2 cos municipalities aren't federal. And > anything but the actual few already approved licences need a multi-month > review. > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread Stewart Russell
But they can't use OGL-CA v2 cos municipalities aren't federal. And anything but the actual few already approved licences need a multi-month review. Stewart On Sep 27, 2017 18:28, "James" wrote: > other then have them change their license from say ogl-ca v1 to ogl-cav2 >

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread john whelan
>How do we want to move this discussion forward? Do we need to set up a time to talk on the phone? I am willing to help coordinate logistics. I think we need a contact at Stats and since Bjenk has left I'm not sure who is doing what. Alessandro is more management overview than a working contact

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread James
other then have them change their license from say ogl-ca v1 to ogl-cav2 theres not much we can do from a legal stand point. ogl-ca v1 puts too many restrictions On Sep 27, 2017 6:21 PM, "Matthew Darwin" wrote: > How do we want to move this discussion forward? Do we need

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I have been fixing nodes that have wikipedia but no wikidata tags [1], and even the first two randomly picked nodes had identical problem - article was renamed (twice!) without leaving redirects - node 1136510320 Try it yourself - run the query and see what the it points to. [1]

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

2017-09-27 Thread Matthew Darwin
How do we want to move this discussion forward? Do we need to set up a time to talk on the phone? I am willing to help coordinate logistics. On 2017-09-17 10:55 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2017-09-17 10:40 AM, john whelan wrote: They'd like to extend it across Canada so now might be the

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Imre Samu
> I hope everyone realizes that there are Wikidata items for which there > is no Wikipedia article. > So you cannot always find it via Wikipedia tags. > And at least JOSM shows a human readable name of a Wikidata item > besides the Q-number. I think iD does this as well. > m. (who manually adds

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Next meeting

2017-09-27 Thread Rob Nickerson
With two people saying no to Thursday (3 if you include me) this month, we might as well go for Wednesday 4th October. For pubs those in Birmingham may know better but here are some ideas. I suggest the first on the list unless anyone knows a reason to rule it out. - The gunmakers arms. Just

[Talk-ca] OSM Canada & State of the Map US: Oct 20-22

2017-09-27 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi, Are any Canadian folks going to State of the Map US October 20-22 https://2017.stateofthemap.us/ During the conference, I would like to have a discussion about turning the informal https://www.osmcanada.ca/ into a not-for-profit Canadian corporation. I'm looking for other folks who

Re: [Talk-pe] Poder sumar a la Conferencia Estadística de las Américas

2017-09-27 Thread Omar Vega Ramos
El 18/11/15 a las 08:58, Javier Carranza escribió: > Hola , muy honrados e inspirados por vuestro apoyo. > > Te cuento que la declaración se presentó y tuvimos una intervención en > la sesión sobre  data revolution ayer. Lo estuvimos tuiteando por @geocensos > > Agregaremos y avisaremos a la

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Dave F
Unlikely, I'm sure, but you could have two brands with the same name on the same high street. Being antipodean doesn't define their differences. DaveF. On 27/09/2017 15:35, John F. Eldredge wrote: The spatial information will tell you where each business location is; it is not sufficient to

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importation des hauteurs de bâtiments sur Nice

2017-09-27 Thread Philippe Verdy
Un problème entre Cantaron et Falicon, le MNT ne semble pas correct (plat là où il y a des montagnes) du coup, on a des tas de "tours": http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=43.7604708=7.3021714=16=27.399 Le 27 septembre 2017 à 18:01, Vincent Frison a écrit : > Hello, > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
> > > Specifying Q125054 is the same as specifying "Aldi". If needed/wanted, > it could be replaced with the more specific wikidata entry like Aldi Nord. > > no, it’s not the same, because this wikidata object suggests that there is > one company, Aldi GmbH & Co. KG, with 2 seats, and one logo. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2017, at 22:04, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > > Martin, you cannot make a general claim based on a single value. I didn’t make a general claim based on this, I said it’s another example. > Specifying Q125054 is the same as specifying

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 27. Sep 2017, at 21:58, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> the only wikidata example I can >>> find is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25716765 > >> which btw. is another good example of misleading and wrong information via >> wikidata. > > No, it's an

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/09/17 20:56, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > That formed no part of the early discussions on how wikidata should > work? I bowed out when the discussions were going down a path I did not > find to be at all useful. The current offering is certainly a lot more > 'organised' than those

[Talk-it] Task incompleto, da me bloccato.

2017-09-27 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Si tratta del tasking al seguente indirizzo: http://osmit-tm.wmflabs.org/project/26 Siccome ho dovuto lasciare il lavoro incompleto per allontanarmi dal pc, scrivo qui per chi se ne vuole occupare, visto per sbaglio ho cliccato sul pulsante sbagliato, cioè ho messo come completato, di fatto

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
That's exactly what we are trying to do. Add another tag -- brand:wikidata=Q550258 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:10 PM, yvecai wrote: > Excuse me, but what does wikidata do in this discussion ? > If brand=wendy is different tham brand=wendy, and if somebody has a > problem with

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread yvecai
Excuse me, but what does wikidata do in this discussion ? If brand=wendy is different tham brand=wendy, and if somebody has a problem with is it, why not change the key, values or add another tag, document it and voila ? Yves ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Martin, you cannot make a general claim based on a single value. Users can enter "Aldi", or "Aldi Nord" or "Aldi Sud". With different capitalization and dashes, and with or without dots, and god knows what other creative ways to misspell it. Specifying Q125054 is the same as specifying "Aldi". If

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 20:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > On 27. Sep 2017, at 17:57, Andy Townsend wrote: >> the only wikidata example I can >> find is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25716765 > which btw. is another good example of misleading

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
> > That formed no part of the early discussions on how wikidata should > work? I bowed out when the discussions were going down a path I did not > find to be at all useful. The current offering is certainly a lot more > 'organised' than those original discussions. Getting the initial points

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2017, at 17:57, Andy Townsend wrote: > > In Germany both Aldi Nord and Aldi Sud operate, but these tend to be tagged > in OSM as operator rather than brand, and the only wikidata example I can > find is

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-09-27 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi Frederik, That is helpful. Let us know when you have re-executed the analysis and posted the results. A list of IDs per county would be helpful. We can work together as US community to identify viable sources for re-assessing the correct names, as well as organizing mapping efforts for

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/09/17 19:46, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Lester, first and foremost, Wikidata is a system to connect the same > Wikipedia articles in different languages. The "read this article in > another language" links on the left side comes from Wikidata.  Wikidata > has developed beyond this initial goal,

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Marc, I think you are confusing the goal and the means to get there. I agree - the goal is to be able to globally find all Wendy's, so that when I travel, I still can search for familiar brands. So the same brand should have the same ID everywhere. That ID can be either textual or numeric. Both

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.09.2017 um 20:47 schrieb Marc Gemis: >> Can anyone think of an example where two unrelated brands share the same >> name and category of business in the same geographical area? > Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer > use a separate datebase to identify the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Présentation

2017-09-27 Thread Cédric Frayssinet
Le 27/09/2017 à 10:47, Jean-Christophe Becquet a écrit : > Le 26/09/2017 18:25, Cédric Frayssinet a écrit : >> Je vous informe également que je viens de rédiger un article sur notre >> site à la Délégation Académique au Numérique Éducatif de Lyon : >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
So you do not agree with the Automated Edits code of conduct ? If an automated edit takes place in a country, why do you expect that that community follows the talk mailing list or even speak English ? People has the right to know that some stranger starts making changes in their area without

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Yves, see above - I listed 3 problems that I would like to solve. Do you agree with them? -- Dr. Yuri :) On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Yves wrote: > I add a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand:wikidata > Wow. > So, this tag is about adding an external

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Can anyone think of an example where two unrelated brands share the same > name and category of business in the same geographical area? Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Suppose I want to find all

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Lester, first and foremost, Wikidata is a system to connect the same Wikipedia articles in different languages. The "read this article in another language" links on the left side comes from Wikidata. Wikidata has developed beyond this initial goal, but it remains the only way to identify

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Yves
I add a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand:wikidata Wow. So, this tag is about adding an external reference that explains what the tag is? Really? This is not a joke? OSM is sick, please somebody call a doctor. Yves Le 27 septembre 2017 19:14:53 GMT+02:00, Mark Wagner

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie

2017-09-27 Thread Colm Moore
Hi, Thanks for your efforts guys. Colm --- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Email privacy

2017-09-27 Thread Colm Moore
Hi, It's not about privacy as such, more about the spam risk (I'm getting a fair bit of phishing at the moment). Pages like that would be ripe for harvesting email addresses. Colm

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/09/17 17:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> Not on a number of articles I've recently been looking at while checking >> out the CURRENT wikidata offering. I've not found wikidata id's on the >> wikipedia articles I looked at ... but wikidata does seem something I >> should perhaps reassess. > You

Re: [Talk-at] Adressen übernehmen mit Adresshelper

2017-09-27 Thread Andreas
Am 2017-09-27 um 17:32 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: > On 27.09.2017 11:22, Walter Krammer wrote: >> Ich trage jetzt seit einigen Tagen mit der JOSM-Erweiterung >> adresshelper in einigen Kärntner Gemeinden die Hausnummern ein. Dann >> kontrolliere ich mit dem OSM.Inspector von Geofabrik die

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:49:40 -0500 (CDT) Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Andy Mabbett wrote: > > in different parts of the world > > IIRC OSM stores spatial information. I might be wrong. > Two examples that can't be resolved by a spatial query: 1) There is a business near

Re: [Talk-us] Missing imagery in JOSM

2017-09-27 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:14:03 -0400 "Mark Bradley" wrote: > What happened to the USGS topographic map imagery that was available > in JOSM until a few days ago? Still there for me, though something's changed: when you zoom out, it no longer switches away from the

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 17:31, Lester Caine wrote: > On 27/09/17 16:48, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> On 27 September 2017 at 16:06, Lester Caine wrote: >>> critically I'd prefer to see the wikipedia pages containing a link to >>> the wikidata entry! >> >> They

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/09/17 16:48, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 27 September 2017 at 16:06, Lester Caine wrote: > >>> While it is not yet complete, in what way is Wikdiata failing to be >>> sufficiently reliable? >> >> Much of the work I did on wikipedia was stripped for all sorts of >> reasons.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I think we should re-start with the definition of the problems we are (hopefully) trying to solve, or else we might end up too far in the existential realm, which is fun to discuss, but should be left for another thread. * Problem #1: In my analysis of OSM data, wikipedia tags quickly go stale

[Talk-us] Missing imagery in JOSM

2017-09-27 Thread Mark Bradley
What happened to the USGS topographic map imagery that was available in JOSM until a few days ago? Mark ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importation des hauteurs de bâtiments sur Nice

2017-09-27 Thread Vincent Frison
Hello, L'import a été fait: 52310 bâtiments ont été mis à jour avec leur hauteur. Plus de détails sur cette page Wiki . ++ Vincent. Le 18 septembre 2017 à 17:57, Vincent Frison a écrit : >

[OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2017 15:35, John F. Eldredge wrote: The spatial information will tell you where each business location is; it is not sufficient to tell you whether these are multiple locations of the same brand, or two unrelated brands that share the same name and category of business. Can anyone

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-27 17:45 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett : > On 27 September 2017 at 16:00, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > On Wednesday 27 September 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: > means that by > >> extension I also have to welcome "amenity:wikidata=Q123456" on > >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 16:06, Lester Caine wrote: >> While it is not yet complete, in what way is Wikdiata failing to be >> sufficiently reliable? > > Much of the work I did on wikipedia was stripped for all sorts of > reasons. My question was about Wikidata's reliability,

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 16:00, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Wednesday 27 September 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >> In theory, almost everything we map could be expressed by a Wikidata >> ID. If welcoming a Wikidata link on a city place node means that by >> extension I also

Re: [Talk-it] Calanchi

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-27 10:49 GMT+02:00 demon.box : > ciao, vorrei mappare bene una zona costituita da calanchi che sul wiki > vengono definiti così: > > https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calanco già che hai linkato wikipedia per descrivere l'oggetto, siamo sicuri che quel articolo della

Re: [Talk-us] I 85 Express Lane (Atlanta, Georgia)

2017-09-27 Thread Jack Burke
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > I might be inclined to map the lane as a separate way, but only because I don't know of any routers that currently > recognize the change:lanes tag. [1] Either way, it makes sense to treat HOV and toll lanes

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-27 16:56 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett : > On 26 September 2017 at 21:39, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > >> This might also mean that > >> you have to discuss it via Telegram, Facebook, email, IRC, etc. > >> depending on where that local

Re: [Talk-at] Adressen übernehmen mit Adresshelper

2017-09-27 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 27.09.2017 11:22, Walter Krammer wrote: Ich trage jetzt seit einigen Tagen mit der JOSM-Erweiterung adresshelper in einigen Kärntner Gemeinden die Hausnummern ein. Dann kontrolliere ich mit dem OSM.Inspector von Geofabrik die Einträge. Bitte nicht! Wenn du für so was einen Validator

[OSM-talk-fr] Disparition des Grands Lacs canadiens et autres...

2017-09-27 Thread Pilon, Michel (SSC/SPC)
Bonjour à tous, Je suis en train de monter un serveur OpenStreetMap localement et j'ai un problème récurrent avec la disparition des Lacs qui sont très grands suite aux mise-a-jour des données OSM. Pour télécharger initialement la planète, la commande que j'utilise est la suivante osm2pgsql

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/09/17 14:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 27 September 2017 at 14:28, Lester Caine wrote: > >> wikidata provides a section which documents a range of LINKS which >> identify the same object on other databases. It would be nice if there >> was a stable identity on OSM that

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 27 September 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > In theory, almost everything we map could be expressed by a Wikidata > ID. If welcoming a Wikidata link on a city place node means that by > extension I also have to welcome "amenity:wikidata=Q123456" on > something that is, say, an ice

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 September 2017 at 21:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> This might also mean that >> you have to discuss it via Telegram, Facebook, email, IRC, etc. >> depending on where that local community is. >> >> The talk mailing list is not sufficient. > I think this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
The spatial information will tell you where each business location is; it is not sufficient to tell you whether these are multiple locations of the same brand, or two unrelated brands that share the same name and category of business. On September 27, 2017 6:51:32 AM Richard Fairhurst

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:59:34 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > > "amenity:wikidata=Q123456" on something that is, say, an ice cream > parlour because Q123456 is the generic Wikidata category for ice > cream parlours I thought wikidata tags were for unique objets, which usage I

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 14:59, Frederik Ramm wrote: > We generally discourage foreign keys We do? Citation please. > If welcoming a Wikidata link on a city place node means that by > extension I also have to welcome "amenity:wikidata=Q123456" on something > that is, say,

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
I fail to understand how an external database can link to an OSM location in case we do not allow foreign keys. I know there is some vague "find something with a name similar to X in some area Y" kind of strategy, but did somebody ever implemented such a thing ? I doubt that "area Y" is always

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Stefano
2017-09-27 15:59 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm : > Hi, > > On 27.09.2017 15:37, Simon Poole wrote: > > My take is that it adds a nearly impossible to maintain (consider your > > own Woolworth's example), non-speaking, foreign key > > We generally discourage foreign keys (that are

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 14:37, Simon Poole wrote: > Am 27.09.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Andy Mabbett: >> Tim Berners Lee coined the "Five Stars of Open Data" >> >> http://5stardata.info/en/ > You are assuming > a) that an arbitrary best practice definition is relevant for OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 27.09.2017 15:37, Simon Poole wrote: > My take is that it adds a nearly impossible to maintain (consider your > own Woolworth's example), non-speaking, foreign key We generally discourage foreign keys (that are only usable together with a different data set and that are not signposted

Re: [Talk-it] Calanchi

2017-09-27 Thread Dino Michelini
calanchi famosi sono quelli di Civita di Bagnoreggio https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Valle_dei_Calanchi.jpg [7] Il 27.09.2017 15:27 Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: > Calanque? > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rilke_2.jpg [5] > > Il 27/set/2017 12:26, "Volker Schmidt" ha

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 14:28, Lester Caine wrote: > wikidata provides a section which documents a range of LINKS which > identify the same object on other databases. It would be nice if there > was a stable identity on OSM that would populate an entry in THAT list. Indeed

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.09.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Andy Mabbett: > ... >> Why would that matter to OSM? > It may not, It certainly matters to OSM's users. > > Tim Berners Lee coined the "Five Stars of Open Data" > > http://5stardata.info/en/ > > defining best practice in publishing open data. OSM already meets

[Talk-it] Parlano di noi su Repubblica :-)

2017-09-27 Thread Matteo Zaffonato
http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2017/09/27/news/dai_beni_confiscati_alla_street_art_tutti_pazzi_per_crowd_mapping-176618750/ Ciao Matteo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Lester Caine
( Thought I hit 'reply list' :) ) On 26/09/17 23:47, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Here is a query that finds all wikidata IDs frequently used in > "brand:wikidata", and shows OSM objects whose "wikidata" points to the > same. I would like to replace all such wikidata/wikipedia tags with the >

Re: [Talk-it] Calanchi

2017-09-27 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Calanque? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rilke_2.jpg Il 27/set/2017 12:26, "Volker Schmidt" ha scritto: > > > ciao, vorrei mappare una calanca... >> > > ... cioè qulacosa come: > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calanque > (no c'è una versione italiana dell'articolo) >

Re: [OSM-talk] Downloading Version 3 of all bus stops in a country

2017-09-27 Thread Safwat Halaby
On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 09:18 +0200, Jo wrote: > 2017-09-27 8:30 GMT+02:00 Safwat Halaby : > > > On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 11:46 +0200, Jo wrote: > > > > > Then load that in PostGIS and create scripts to read GTFS into > > > PostGIS. > > > > > > Then compare the data in the DB and

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 12:49, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Andy Mabbett wrote: >> in different parts of the world > > IIRC OSM stores spatial information. I might be wrong. For some reason I can't determine, you quote me out-of-context; the context was that we were

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 12:57, Simon Poole wrote: >> For example, until the UK version went titsup a few years back, there >> were chains of stores in the UK and in Australia, each called >> "Woolworths". Though they had common roots, they were not the same. > Why would that

Re: [Talk-it] SMAU Milano 2017 - le Community a SMAU-ICT

2017-09-27 Thread Luca Delucchi
2017-09-27 13:56 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Palmas : > > A parte Volker non ho avuto nessun altro feedback. Vorrà dire che domattina > telefono all'organizzazione per dire che non interessa. > Peccato che nessun altro sia disponibile... si perde una grande opportunità di

Re: [OSM-talk] Downloading Version 3 of all bus stops in a country

2017-09-27 Thread Safwat Halaby
I think my last two replies never got through and were sent privately instead. Here's a rephrasing. (which is possibly better anyways). __ On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 10:53 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: > isn't it possible that the 2017 contains data from e.g. 2014, which

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-09-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 27.09.2017 06:43, Martijn van Exel wrote: > In your email from Aug 28 you proposed to wait a while as a first step > to gather some feedback on your assessment. Did you receive any? When do > you think you want to proceed with the redaction? Anything we can do to > help? I haven't

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.09.2017 um 13:30 schrieb Andy Mabbett: > > For example, until the UK version went titsup a few years back, there > were chains of stores in the UK and in Australia, each called > "Woolworths". Though they had common roots, they were not the same. > > Why would that matter to OSM? Given

Re: [Talk-it] SMAU Milano 2017 - le Community a SMAU-ICT

2017-09-27 Thread Alessandro Palmas
Il 20/09/2017 16:53, Alessandro Palmas ha scritto: Salve lista, mi è arrivata la proposta per la partecipazione di OSM allo SMAU nell'area community. Come potete leggere sotto non è obbligatorio presidiare tutti i tre giorni e le singole persone potrebbero partecipare anche un solo giorno.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Mabbett wrote: > in different parts of the world IIRC OSM stores spatial information. I might be wrong. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/General-Discussion-f5171242.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 27 September 2017 at 10:07, Simon Poole wrote: > While I can understand adding WP and WD tags to objects of note, why on > earth would we want to add all this redundancy to OSM objects at all? The question incudes the false premise that this is redundancy: It is not, it adds

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 September 2017 at 23:47, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Here is a query that finds all wikidata IDs frequently used in > "brand:wikidata", and shows OSM objects whose "wikidata" points to the same. > I would like to replace all such wikidata/wikipedia tags with the >

Re: [Talk-br] Como ser um nó de banco de dados do OSM?

2017-09-27 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
2017-09-26 15:28 GMT-03:00 Rodrigo M. Mariano : > Isto é realmente possível? Se sim, alguém poderia me passar, por favor, > > as instruções de como podermos ser um nó de BD do OSM? Vocês querem que tipo de serviço exatamente? Apenas o banco de dados, um servidor de tiles

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