On 12 Oct 2009, at 24:05 , Frederik Ramm wrote:
Apo,
I don't know about the specific case you are talking about. But on
a more general note, I am sure that we will be seeing stricter rules
for bots, where instead of *politely asking* for things to be
discussed before the bot runs
I know it has been discussed before but found a lot of broken data created
by bot bugbuster and this is important enough to bring it up again.
There was some lame response but never really an explanation what this bot
is doing. Some edits are correct others are not.
There is little information in
isn't a good solution but it's the best we have for new
tags. old tags speak for themselves in tagwatch.
Having good docu in the wiki helps everyone and beginners will always
start from there.
Apollinaris Schoell writes:
can you move this thread to the new list where it belongs?
--
--my
the interesting change is in US. No copyright info linking to Teleatlas.
Google is now it's own map provider. I was long awaiting this move.
With their data from Streetview they can extract nearly every
information from streetsigns and roadmarking.
But their data is still wrong in many places
can you move this thread to the new list where it belongs?
Hi all,
I'm pleased to announce a new mailing list: tagg...@openstreetmap.org .
You can subscribe at:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
The mailing list description is tag discussion, strategy and related
tools.
On 5 Oct 2009, at 22:07 , Mark Dalton wrote:
I would like to bring together some newbies to experienced people to
help everyone
get things done.
I would be happy to find a venue, supply snacks, etc..
Here are some of the questions I have been asked to get a feel for
some
experience
have seen other small islets missing in yahoo, but they are seen in google
imagesmust be a yahoo problem
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Scott Atwood scott.roy.atw...@gmail.comwrote:
Kaʻula Rock is a tiny islet a couple of dozen miles southeast of Niʻihau in
the Hawaiian Islands. The islet
On 4 Oct 2009, at 12:42 , Mike Harris wrote:
I'm seeking advice as to best practice in the following type of
situation:
As an increasingly common example, now that people are getting
around to mapping areas such as leisure=, natural= and landuse= ...
Consider the case of landuse=farm
On 4 Oct 2009, at 13:50 , MP wrote:
If you don't want to do micro mapping the best approach is to
create a
multipolygon relations for the farm and one for the golf course. use
the portion of the highway in the polygon as outer way and delete the
duplicate ways.
While this may look
On 3 Oct 2009, at 9:13 , Dave Hansen wrote:
Is this the most up to date way of keeping addresses?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema
yes and well supported by the renderer
Well, I have some perl code that will parse the 2007/2008
On 2 Oct 2009, at 21:06 , John Smith wrote:
You do if you want a consistent data set.
And what if I don't want?
There are 1000s of mappers and not everyone thinks like you and agrees
with you. If you can't accept so much freedom it's your problem not
mine or theirs.
there are many things I
On 2 Oct 2009, at 21:32 , Kevin wrote:
yes, we can import a subset of the tiger data and it's easy to
reproject
to wgs80. fyi, 2009 tiger is available. i can import the county
boundaries for hawaii right now since the it looks like the usgs
county
boundaries weren't imported.
the
yes he is a leader and as such deserves respect. he should lead some
useful and intelligent projects and don't loose a word about this
childish 1/0/yes/no/true/false discussions.
a consumer of the data has to do a bit more work but this is a small
fee for free access to an amazing database.
On 30 Sep 2009, at 20:46 , Russ Nelson wrote:
Dave F. writes:
Russ Nelson wrote:
-1. Don't confuse anarchy with chaos. SteveC is our leader (and
should behave as such by Giving Advice), but he's only our leader so
far as he gives Good Advice.
A leader in an anarchic state? How does
I suggest to subscribe to talk-ca and read what they are doing to
merge existing data with new and better imports
On 30 Sep 2009, at 6:49 , Christopher Covington wrote:
Hi All,
How can one import large datasets of information mostly already on the
map to Open Street Map? I believe that my
You'll be blown away when you see what our French cousins are doing.
Then you'll want to combine the ideas; I know I want to. ;-)
we are all waiting to see it. there is so much data with regular
updates and without a tools it's a job for the rest of you life.
are good. But I fear you
have destroyed a lot of tiger data this way. explanations are in a
couple of other mails.
again stop it.
since you mentioned #osm-de I assume you understand german Gut
gemeint ist das Gegenteil von gut
--
apo
Greetings Ruben
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
please
I know this info was sent earlier to these lists. Did anyone already buy
these disks for use in OSM projects already?
since data itself is in public domain a single set of disks will be enough.
http://geodatapolicy.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/santa-clara-county-releases-data/
--
apollinaris
On 28 Sep 2009, at 10:06 , Ruben Wisniewski wrote:
I think the user speaks for itself, you can look at the history if you
want to know where the data came from. But I think there should be a
tag
like on the tiger data which indicates if the data was reviewed
locally,
to prove it is
please stop this Bot until it's usefulness is proven and others agree it
should run.
it was never discussed in this list and a bot affecting the whole planet
should be discussed first for risks.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Ruben Wisniewski ru...@all-in-si.dewrote:
Hi there,
just want to
yes this a critical point. also tiger import created 2 nodes for
railways/boundary/road/powerline crossing each other. even if the layer tag
is missing they must not merge. instead a layer tag must be added.
a bot can never solve such a problem. only make it worse.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:09
But as I said, I'd much rather have a specific, rendered, more to do
here tag for stubs that is removed when the way is extended.
not a good idea for the normal map. have you ever seen any other commercial
map with hey look this map is incomplete BS info?
sure it makes sense to get this info
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:15 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote:
On 26/09/2009 19:09, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
But as I said, I'd much rather have a specific, rendered, more to do
here tag for stubs that is removed when the way is extended.
not a good idea for the normal
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
You see, this is where I get /really /confused
I see no reference to 'todo' or 'continue' in the general OSM wiki.
In the Groundtruth wiki page they're highlighted red, saying there there
no reference page.
If you think
you might be shocked. I rarely add this info. many edits are a mix of
gps, yahoo tracing, best guess, averaging and interpolation with
other existing data, topo maps if free version available, free shape
files.
why would I add all this info? just a lot of work with no benefit. we
are not
I don't recall seeing I and US on signs in the US, although it might
have been the case where I've been.
Verified on the way to work today. Even this is not consistent. Some shields
have some don't. At least in california.
the large overhead signs have only the number but the signs along the
This data is definitely very up-to-date. It is used by the county to
impose property taxes, so it has to be up-to-date. They offer new files
weekly.
problem is how can you convert the weekly updates into osm updates? You
can't delete all data and upload again the next week.
I basically
problem is how can you convert the weekly updates into osm updates? You
can't delete all data and upload again the next week.
I'm not volunteering to do it *weekly*, but I'd only delete and upload (or
modify) the data that changes, of course :).
great if you can do that. but be warned it
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:38 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/9/21 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com:
[ ... ]
So I suggest we pattern on network=us_i for Interstates, us_us for US
Routes, us_ny_ny
On 20 Sep 2009, at 20:20 , John Smith wrote:
2009/9/21 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com:
you shouldn't use well established tags in the wrong way.
us_ny_ny_co is not
a network name. the network is I, US,
The US but is redundant, we just need to know what shield type
definitely something which should be continued. but it's not trivial.
some considerations
- 2009 update for tiger date should come soon. and hopefully it has less
errors. makes sense to wait for it
- in areas where data hasn't been touched it's also very likely the areas
which are of bad tiger
I know user nmixter has started to to compile a list for california for free
county gis data. Can't connect to the wiki right now. But easy to find from
the California page.
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Richard Shank deve...@zestic.com wrote:
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
- more and more
I think it's fine except this oneUrban Freeways and Expressways -
highway:trunk
If it's a signed freeway tag it as motorway not as trunk
freeways usually have a signed designation, access restrictions for
pedestrians. bikes(with some exceptions in CA,OR ...) this deserves the
motorway tag.
On
oneway and a single way can break routing.
On 9 Sep 2009, at 19:30 , Bill Ricker wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com
wrote:
the tiles from this site are not routable. It is stated on the
website.
thanks to Tiger and MassGIS issues, until we
the tiles from this site are not routable. It is stated on the website.
have done a test run and the lower states have been ~ 2.5G too much for
almost all Garmin models. still working on optimized tiling. some tiles are
still failing because of size.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Nakor
full support for all your arguments.
there are a few places where the wiki is different and I think we
should change these definitions.
1) National Forest Service, Bureau of Indian Affairs, Power
Administration, and Bureau of Land Management routes
.
highway (required) track or tertiary
+1
given the length of some interstates this is highly recommended.
On 7 Sep 2009, at 12:12 , Richard Welty wrote:
given that there is apparent concensus that Interstate relations be
done
on a state-by-state
basis, perhaps the language on the Interstate_Highways_Relations page
should be
Oh no I would never want to write a tool that allow blind reverts! I'm
writing a tool that will
- make it easy to review all changes that reverting a changeset
will apply to the data
- visually show the data before/after the revert
- choose which change should be reverted in which way
I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate,
official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people
involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough connection
hosted free by UCL, or somebody else wants to offer reliable and free
hosting). Since it's
On 5 Sep 2009, at 8:40 , andrzej zaborowski wrote:
2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com:
I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate,
official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people
involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough
you can run osmosis on the planet with a US boundary polygon. If you
don't mind some overlaps with Canada and Mexico it is easier to clip a
rectangle.
this is what I use to get all of washington, oregon, california in one
extract.
bzcat planet | osmosis --rx pipe --bb left=-126 right=-113
exactly, performance of editors is very bad with a huge number of
relations.
On 4 Sep 2009, at 7:41 , Mike N. wrote:
While there may not be a hard limit on # of items in a relation, it
might be
more convenient to break up relations by state. That enables
downloading
all elements of
I have always used 2 for multiple reasons.
- they have different signs and if you add direction tag with same
info to the relation routing software can use it. commercial navis are
doing it too.
- putting the info on a role is lot of work and prone to errors. Josm
improved lately but it is
This sounds like an interesting experiment worth running on Amazon's EC2
cloud. Their x-large machines run at $1/hour, but sure would chomp on this
data quickly!
I would be willing to try (and pay for) it if Lars went through a did an
updated setup doc.
We could start our own distributed
to have it changed.
On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:55 , Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 14:10 -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
the wiki has them as proposal on boundary=adminstrative, admin level
1, but this is definitely wrong. they should be either level 3 - 5.
as
far as I know they have
the wiki has them as proposal on boundary=adminstrative, admin level 1, but
this is definitely wrong. they should be either level 3 - 5. as far as I
know they have a pretty special legal status and level 3 seems to be a good
choice.an adminsitrative boundary should always render. For more details
you may add a visibility tag, if it's rough terrain also sac_scale may
apply
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trail_visibility
On 26 Aug 2009, at 7:25 , Nick Whitelegg wrote:
I suppose this brings up all the stuff about path tagging again,
but, how
do people in general tag vague,
don't waste too much time trying to make sense of broken data. fix it
in the best possible way and delete tags which don't make sense
anymore. time of mappers is better spent on fixing the data instead of
fiddle around with nearly useless tags.
osm data is dynamic everyone can edit
On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2009/8/20 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
Wmm why can't we say:
1L for the leftmost lane
2L for the second lane from left
1R for the rightmost lane
where left and right is seen in driving-direction. So then the 2
rightmode
There was a major change. you need to upgrade the plugin and the
settings for yahoo.
these are my current settings and they work on Mac OS
wmsplugin.default.html:http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wmsplugin/
YahooDirect.html?=true
wmsplugin.default.http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?
, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2009/8/20 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com:
how could you do this practically? aligning 18 lanes as individual
ways is impossible in the current data model and editors.
Why? It's very possible: just do it.
Btw: I's not 18 lanes, but
1
sure, tiger import is not perfect as we all now
On Aug 20, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Nakor wrote:
Thanks. It does not show up. Could it be that they never existed
(they were not part of TIGER import)?
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
In Potlatch shift U
red lines have been deleted, select
welcome in the world of osm cleanup ;-)
there are so many errors in osm data for routing and some are very difficult
to find.
most people don't care as long as the maps is rendered nice. and without
tools it's hard to make mappers aware of them.
America doesn't have an instance of keepright
to recompile the map
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote:
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
there is something better already
http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/
Is there a way of getting data out of that easily? If there is it would
make sense to be able
no info in the wiki.
Is this documented somewhere?
On Aug 16, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Chris Hunter wrote:
Looks like the 2008 data for my area (TN) just got uploaded about 5
hours ago if I did the time conversion right.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Richard Shank deve...@zestic.com
wrote:
I
there is something better already
http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dkwrote:
I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a
set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the
mapping
perfect, only one thing to add.
more emails to talk will not change anything.
active mappers, the ones writing tools and renderers will
over time the better scheme will win or both stay in peaceful
coexistence.
On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:02 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
David Earl wrote:
Up to
On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:32 AM, Tom Chance wrote:
Which do we go for? We can't have this stupid, unclear fudge.
Yes we can it's OSM it's anarchy :)
Regards,
Tom
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+1
On Aug 10, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
I'll say what I always say these days whenever this subject comes
up :-)
That is, I believe the highway tag should represent the physical
surface, not the rights. My current views on this are:
highway=track - a dirt/stone track,
On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Nop wrote:
Hi!
Apollinaris Schoell schrieb:
To prevent accidential damage, there could be a warning when you are
using it in a dangerous or most likely harmful way. E.g. more than
10
ways are selected or using it on ways that already have less than 10
My Garmin eTrex HCx makes reasonable tracks under forest cover,
although the tracks are certainly worse under forest than under a
clear
sky. It's not the cheapest GPS unit you can get, but it's reasonably
priced and it's a great navigator to enjoy both OSM and commercial
maps
on
.
Still like the Hcx because it's smaller and battery life is very important
on long hikes.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.ukwrote:
On Monday 10 August 2009, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
compared to a SiRF III powered the eTrex is pretty lame in accuracy
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
compared to a SiRF III powered the eTrex is pretty lame in accuracy.
but it uses less power and runs twice as long on a set of batteries
ok, so I'm in the rich guys list.
not yet
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Liz wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Nop wrote:
Some people mentioned that the default settings of these tools are
very
agressive - this is true and a more lenient approach might produce
much
better results. But then, I have not seen any options to change
this
I know that some people like this tidy-points-function to work on
TIGER-Data, but I tell you: if the TIGER-Data is not good/precise, it
won't get better using this function ;-)
bad data doesn't get worse either. for a lot of tiger data it can compact
without any loss. And tiger is not a
while the Garmin ones can use OSM maps, the chips they are still using is
not
the newest and best
so it is harder to get a fix
My newest logger can actually get a fix inside my house, which was
constructed
with a near complete Faraday cage design, although a fix takes much longer
than
On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
Prefer
Landuse=forestry (not 'forest') and natural=woodland; maybe also a
tag for
the administrative areas such as US National Forests. Then other
tags can
take care of the detail.
some US National forests are nearly tree free. We
As far as I have understood by reading English Wikipedia you have
different classes (Freeway, Interstate, Numbered Highways) where at
least Freeway and Interstate are motorways. Those seem to have
unambiguous signs. May I suppose that I would not be allowed to ride
my bike on any of these,
in
california is a good example. It changes from Primary or trunk to
motorway many times. mainly the northern part is open for bikes.
On Aug 4, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2009/8/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com:
As far as I have understood by reading English
as far as I understand the db this is correct. the way uses the same nodes.
no need to increase the version the way doesn't have any additional location
info
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com wrote:
Hi,
I select a way with approx 2,000 nodes and move it in
I don't know what the Osmarender update speed is or how to mark
tiles as
dirty or find out when they were rendered, so I am unsure if
Osmarender
tiles can be directly compared.
osmarender doesn't work currently for large areas defined by relation
boundaries
there is a lonly white
Funnily enough, where I have been mapping the sign is always on the
bridge itself. Anyway, I think we should be tagging what the sign is
referring to, independent of the sign itself.
even if the sign is on the bridge structure it is a limitation valid
for the road passing under the bridge.
info is pretty old and not up to date. some rework is needed to make
it really useful . Include newer standards like relations, remove
some lengthy explanations about divided highways. remove or shrink
some of the large pictures to make it easier to read.
On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:17 AM,
new josm versions have a sort button. it worked pretty well for me to
get all members sorted
On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote:
Hi, I have a problem with many of the recent relations I've created in
JOSM. In the past I didn't have a problem. Here is an example:
cryptic entries. What do they
mean and how do I change them, if needed?
Andy
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
new josm versions have a sort button. it worked pretty well for me
to get all members sorted
On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote:
Hi, I have a problem with many of the recent
On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:10 AM, David Carmean wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 07:25:21AM -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
[snip]
Which data do you have in mind? which data sources? is there anything
better available compared to http://atlas.ca.gov/download.html
That looks to be a new
Hi,
many state parks are in osm but no info about the source. Anyone knows
data sources for state parks?
thanks
Apollinaris
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Re: Bill Ricker's suggestion of flagging the dangling motorway_links,
that is certainly possible and easy for me to do if you want it (I'd
suggest something like FIXME=this motorway_link does not seem to be
connected to a motorway or so).
put bugs where they belong to.
I remove the tiger:reviewed tag, insert (or append to) a source
tag
with values:
yahoo_imagry [sic] (mis-spelled for consistency with current usage);
usgs_imagery;
image (for my own picture);
survey (I drove the area);
local_knowledge (from my own recollection);
local_government
It's very slow today. Did an upload of 4k nodes and it took about 3h
if possible split the data, waiting 15h and then it stops because of a
conflict is a pain
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Andrew Ayre wrote:
Thanks Tyler and Dave.
I tried bulk_upload.py and it gave me a 404 error.
I
to the
motorway (which
I fixed).
That's a valid concern (also voiced by Apollinaris Schoell) and I had
not thought about that.
I have now changed the script to identify dangling motorway_links,
and
leave them untouched even if they are connected to a lesser road on
the
other end. I don't actually
Yeah, you definitely have to be careful. It's OK for a motorway to
touch:
1. another motorway
2. a motorway_link
3. a non-mototorway, but only at its *END* node. Not at its beginning
node
Why? US 101 changes an estimated million times from motorway to trunk/
primary and back to
Yep. I've even got a JOSM validator plugin test to check motorway
intersections. It doesn't do the angles, but just ensures motorways
only touch other way types at their endpoints.
very useful, can you share?
Apollinaris
-- Dave
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boundary=national_park
ownership=national
operator=United States National Park Service
or
operator=United States National Forest Service
operator=United States Bureau of Land Management
etc.
makes sense to use just one boundary tag. easier to implement in the
renderer and good enough
boundary=national_park
ownership=national
operator=United States National Park Service
or
operator=United States National Forest Service
operator=United States Bureau of Land Management
etc.
makes sense to use just one boundary tag. easier to implement in the
renderer and good enough
not sure if I understand correct. by staggered do you mean they are on
different levels via bridges or underpass?
then there is no need to split. instead
1) unglue the node, you will have 2 nodes at exact same location. one
belongs to way one the other to way 2
2) if need to move: both are
not my tracks. I guess they are done with OSMTracker. It has lots of
onscreen buttons and you can assign any name to them. Or you enter any
custom text.
supports voice tracking too. very convenient to enter lots of wp or
when you need to concentrate on driving.
On 21 Jun 2009, at 19:32 ,
had the same troubles in firefox at some point. some tiles loaded some
didn't. other browser worked so it was clearly not server problem
Check the Content - Load images automatically settings, this solved my
troubles
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Ivo van den Maagdenberg
ff has some shortcuts or gestures. clicking lot and fast and you won't
recognize the change in settings ...
On 18 Jun 2009, at 14:56 , Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote:
2009/6/18 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com
had the same troubles in firefox at some point. some tiles loaded
some
nobody is perfect.
terraserver has some major scanning errors in Yosemite and in other
places too.
so far havn't found any on yahoo images but others reported them
On 17 Jun 2009, at 12:36 , Dale Puch wrote:
Just a caution.
I was just checking this out and noticed that the highest zoom
but there should be something in
place similar to existing maps.
On 12 May 2009, at 4:54 , Greg Troxel wrote:
Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com writes:
many parks are tagged with
leisure park
Is this really the recommended setting? according to the wiki park is
something more like
many parks are tagged with
leisure park
Is this really the recommended setting? according to the wiki park is
something more like golden gate park in SF or central park in NY
natural_reserve matches better the main purpose of national parks.
some places in national parks are as crowded as a
And yet Richard, Greg, and Dale all said that removing
tiger:reviewed=no implies pretty much two things: the name is right
(more or less) and the location is right (more or less). I think that
perhaps we can agree on that.
so it's (more or less) use(ful or less)
But I also think that we
a good reference are the USGS maps. their accuracy is way better compared to
tiger. they are pretty old and usually miss data from the last 10-30 years.
one download location is here http://libremap.org/
You can use any tool which supports geotiff and gpx or shape import to match
some of the
this will create many duplicates. You will need to do some checking
before a poi is added. so many mass imports are done cleanup is a lot
of work.
checking should be done against points, ways, polygons. in osm tags
are somtimes on building polugon or on a point. If we have both the
map is
available to OSM editors. One way to do that is to have a second API
which consists of a cached copy of everything that map renderers might
use, all merged into one read-only OSM-compatible api. So when
somebody asks to edit an area, the editor also shows them the read-
only elements, so
not a good idea to delete the relation. It will be incredible painful
to add all pieces agin and not missing a single bridge.
Josm is the best solution. Also Merkaator supports Yahoo images.
The nice thing in Josm is you can select all members of a realtion
easily. download all members,
http://keepright.ipax.at
Ugh. Those are all written in sql. :(
I've been using the JOSM validator plugin to fix this stuff on a small
scale. I've had dreams of using the same code to do fixing of TIGER
stuff outside of JOSM, but haven't ever gotten around to it.
JOSM validator is great
full ack
some tags are too confusing ...
on a lighter note: from tagwatch
typo or protest against a very_horrible tag ;-)
smoothmess horrible (4), impassable (1)
On 30 Apr 2009, at 8:59 , Andy Allan wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Richard Mann
. for now I will spend my time to fix the
basics first. and shouldn't spend so much time on these emails ;-)
On 25 Apr 2009, at 19:02 , Russ Nelson wrote:
On Apr 24, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
if it's an option I wouldn't wast a second to write about the pro/
con.
why does
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