Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/05/15 18:01, Colin Smale wrote: A bit of a meta-discussion I wonder why this topic is not going the same way as the debate on talk-gb last November-December in which it was proposed to tidy up and normalise various spelling variants? There was a lot of vehement opposition to any

Re: [OSM-talk] Students editing for assignments

2015-07-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/07/2015 19:00, Michał Brzozowski wrote: I ask that we create some guidelines for that type of editing, as we're no sandbox [3]; [3] We should definitely make one, like one that Wikipedia has. Although it wasn't really designed for that, we have got

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2015 02:16, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: According to the github discussion there is an overwhelming consensus [2] on moving from current rainbow colour scheme for roads to a red-yellow only scheme. I don't think you'll ever get an overwhelming consensus from such a large

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2015 16:25, Ben Laenen wrote: Thing is that UK won't ever be happy with another colour scheme and the rest of the world won't ever be happy with a UK scheme. ... and then in the UK we can start arguing about and English style vs a Scottish one and then a Yorkshire one vs Surrey :)

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/08/2015 06:09, Russ Nelson wrote: Okay, this has to stop. ... Here's what seems to have happened. Via P1 undelete you can see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/11896835/history Someone's spotted that the TIGER way is iffy (via P1 it's possible to see that it clearly was), and they're

[OSM-talk] Trees (was: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release)

2015-08-15 Thread Andy Townsend
‎There's lots of discussion on Openstreetmap-Carto's github about this, which explains what's possible with the standard style right now, but if you're not subject to those restrictions you can certainly render leaf_type now - I've been doing it for my own use for some time (I wrote a diary

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

2015-07-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/07/2015 19:49, Lester Caine wrote: On 23/07/15 19:34, Andy Townsend wrote: It's actually farmland rather than farm, and therefore tagged correctly. If it was me I'd use a lightly colour for farmland so that farmyards (also tagged correctly in that area) stand out a bit more (obligatory

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

2015-07-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/07/2015 19:13, Lester Caine wrote: The random use of FARM for large areas is totally inappropriate, and personally I'd remove the bulk of those areas ... or cover the rest of the UK. Using 'farm' for the central farm area makes much more sense and is what is the normal standard south of

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for well mapped rural area and well mapped town/city

2015-07-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/07/2015 11:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for well mapped rural area. I located some places but all are either missing major features (like part of landuse) or quality of mapping (especially landuses) is poor. One place where rural landuse is mapped is here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for well mapped rural area and well mapped town/city

2015-07-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/07/2015 11:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for well mapped rural area. I located some places but all are either missing major features (like part of landuse) or quality of mapping (especially landuses) is poor. ... and one with both landuse and field boundaries just west of

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/11/2015 12:15, GerdP wrote: Now what is meant with oneway=yes;no (or no;yes) ? (at the risk of stating the obvious) that's likely to be a merged way, where a new user didn't spot a difference in a key that they weren't looking at before merging two ways. Just look at the changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Unrepentant Vandal

2015-11-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/11/2015 10:36, Andrew Errington wrote: Hi all, Here is a link to a random point on a light rail system: http://osm.org/go/546Jvddtd--?m= Soon after it opened I travelled on it from end to end, collecting gps data and photos of all the station signs. There are two railway lines, one in

Re: [OSM-talk] Improved new Icon set for Open Street map

2015-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/11/2015 16:53, Nasir Khan wrote: ... One thing i faced every time and asked from many that, is there a way to improve the icon set to make the map more attractive. (apologies if I'm stating the obvious here, but...) "OpenStreetMap" isn't just "the standard map that you see at

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/11/2015 20:42, Andrew Guertin wrote: An in-between example: on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38089492/history, highway=stepping_stones was replaced with highway=path. While this helps consumers use the data, it loses information that should have been kept (perhaps with surface=*

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 131, Issue 10

2015-07-11 Thread Andy Townsend
‎You may need to explain in a bit more detail what you're trying to do - what buttons you're pressing, what you'd expect to happen, and what actually does happen. it'd probably make more sense to ask a question at help.osm.org (you can use your normal osm.org login there) or on IRC - the main

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/08/2015 10:02, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: ... the OP hasn't given a list of guilty deletions so it's hard to judge how justified each deletion was. Back in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2015-August/073669.html I had a look at what caused the current flurry of discussion.

[OSM-talk] Railways yet again (was "THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject")

2015-09-08 Thread Andy Townsend
May I respectfully suggest that before anyone sends yet another reply to this thread that they ask "Has this point of view been put forward already?". Everyone is well aware that there is disagreement (and sometimes even disagreement over what to disagree over), but people are rarely won over

Re: [OSM-talk] recent changes in rendering the map make it worse

2015-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2015 11:53, joost schouppe wrote: ... I don't know how we could expect OSM-carto to reflect all our needs. Apart from being a tool for mappers (i.e. showing as much as possible), it also wants to be pretty and useful for non-mappers. Trying to make everyone happy might make everyone

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2015-12-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/12/2015 17:36, Clifford Snow wrote: ... Is there someone on the list that is familiar with China, Japan, Spain, Poland and Thailand that could fix those? For info I did comment (in English) on one of the changesets that added the tag in Japan:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server on Ubuntu 15.10

2016-01-03 Thread Andy Townsend
The "switch2osm manual 14.04 lts" instructions should work ok (on 14.04, obviously). I ran through them on a clean server in December and fixed a couple of problems (missing "sudo"s, changed how to extract one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 23:14, John Doe wrote: I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on mapnik. Is prefix abandoned before building=yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/01/2016 13:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: shop=vacant seems a bit of a hack, "vacant" is not a shop type. That's debateable, I'd say it was. "disused:shop=blah" (or "yes") would work too and is used, though not nearly as many as shop=vacant (9k vs 2k for

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

2016-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 10:45, Lester Caine wrote: MANY of the tools listed on the switch2osm site are no longer actively supported by their originators, I can't speak for everything on there, but I do know that I tested (and tweaked slightly) the "manual 14.04 instructions" about a month ago because

Re: [OSM-talk] Dealing with internet_access=wifi

2016-01-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/01/2016 14:18, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote: Hello, according to taginfo "internet_access=wifi" is used almost 80 times globally. Would you agree it is safe to automatically change all of these to "internet_access=wlan"? As I understand it, "wifi" means "one of the 802.11 variants" whereas

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

2016-01-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/01/2016 11:00, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: El 7 ene 2016, a las 07:47, Hans De Kryger > escribió: So i just came across an edit of a user near me that listed the source of his edit as (Google Maps Street View) (1) This is

Re: [OSM-talk] switch2osm documentation upgrade

2016-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 15:51, Daniel Koć wrote: ... So my second question is: what do you think about upgrading part of the site (with installation instructions) the way I just proposed - or maybe some other way? (as is clear from Richard's message above) I'm not the maintainer of the

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/11/2015 10:16, Ben Abelshausen wrote: You can go the tasking manager and see exactly what the goal of the mapping activity was, who is the admin that created the task and who validates, what mappers contributed and so on. Can you please explain where any of that is documented within

Re: [OSM-talk] How to handle Maps.Me garbage?

2016-06-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/06/2016 14:13, Michael Reichert wrote: I decided not to write a changeset comment because it seems to me to be a waste of time to comment a Maps.Me user's changeset. (There less frequently respond to comments than iD users) Because of the language difference I suspect that the chance of

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/06/2016 10:12, joost schouppe wrote: The scope for growth of our community with Maps.me is phenomenal. Of course there is room for improvement. But it's never going to be easy to lower the barriers to participation without losing quality. I don't think that it's an explicitly MAPS.ME

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/06/2016 16:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-06-22 17:07 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer >: yet another issue and another type of issue: ... I suspect that this mailing list isn't the best way of logging bugs with

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/06/2016 14:40, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: This defect has already been reported to their GitHub repository: https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/2902 You've seen https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/3623 though? ("This bugtracker is not actively monitored, b...@maps.me could be used

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

2016-02-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/02/2016 00:08, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: The correct links are: English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864 ... well nearly :) English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

2016-02-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/2016 20:43, Michał Brzozowski wrote: Can you tell me what's up with this "This entry is available only in Spanish"? I think people won't care if it got delayed a day later or so. Also weird it's Spanish if you have to aggregate multiple mostly English sources anyway. What seems to

Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

2016-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/01/2016 19:16, David Marchal wrote: Hello, there. On a GitHub issue (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2027#issuecomment-174443685), I've been told that Wiki tagging votes are only advisory and that the community is only invited, neither required nor

Re: [OSM-talk] Wilingness to contribute to OpenStreet

2016-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/01/2016 11:17, K2K wrote: > Hi > I'm a second year student of Informatics Institute of Technology Sri Lanka, and I hereby express my willingness to contribute to any on-going developments of OpenStreet . > My fields of expertise are version controlling, Object Oriented programming,

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 20:55, Mike Thompson wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37315914 Should I just manually delete, or would it be better for someone to do a revert. In a a case where someone has made a few valid edits and then something that obviously isn't, I'd personally start with

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 21:09, Mike Thompson wrote: ... appear to be of very poor quality, or out right vandalism. How should this be handled? In this particular case, the changeset comments suggest it's a remote HOT project

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

2016-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
. We also had to intervene on a couple of previous occasions (reverting/redacting data and contact about invalid edits by messages/changeset discussions). Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

2016-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2016 15:39, Chethan H A wrote: Just to add a few more observations about the user 00crashtest editing behavior. Thanks. If you (or anyone else) thinks that there a might be problem with the edits that they're making right now*,

Re: [OSM-talk] Bug in iD?

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/03/2016 22:44, Adrian wrote: A user of the iD editor has added a new way along an existing way, with the two ways sharing the same nodes. In so doing, he has replaced all the nodes of the existing way with new nodes. The old nodes have been deleted. The new nodes are in exactly the same

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn't matter. All of the screed that I wrote yesterday applies to "redundant data" too - we need to understand how it got there,

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/03/2016 12:22, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: On 16-03-23 12:20:35, Andy Townsend, wrote 0.3K characters saying: On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn't matter

Re: [OSM-talk] natural=coastline vs natural=water fix and refresh tiles

2016-03-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/03/2016 10:55, Jérôme Seigneuret wrote: ... It is possible to refresh the base water layer if it is the unique solution? For info just in case you haven't seen it, this previous thread on the "dev" list explains why coastline updates stopped temporarily:

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Andy Townsend
a bit of time understanding the human causes of the sorts of problems that you're aiming to detect, and helping those people understand the resulting problems in the data. Don't just say "you did X wrong" - explain to them politely how and offer to help them get it right next time. Be

Re: [OSM-talk] Slipways connected to highways

2016-05-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/05/2016 17:30, Clifford Snow wrote: I've always added slipways to the last node of a service road. Now JOSM is complaining of leisure=slipway connected to a highway. It seem logical to me that the if you wanted to get routing to a boat launch that the node would be on the highway. How do

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/07/2016 16:19, Éric Gillet wrote: So if the changeset correct 300 restaurants but 2 are "damaged" by the automated edit, would the edit be bad enough to be reverted or not be done in the first place ? I'd revert it. It's essentially the same as the "trees" example upthread (where the

Re: [OSM-talk] Viewing pre-redaction OSM tiles?

2016-07-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/07/2016 19:49, Michał Brzozowski wrote: I would swear I saw a page doing exactly that (with a comparison slider). The reason is I suspect that some website uses old cc-by-sa OSM data (due to its nature, with their own updates) without attribution nor with modified map data released.

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/07/2016 13:00, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Éric Gillet wrote: That would be slightly faster to execute than the first approach I was suggesting, but then how would you prove that you checked every and all features ? Well, the best way to prove that you checked everything is not to fuck

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=crossing tags removed in changeset.

2016-07-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/07/2016 17:40, Dave F wrote: I'm unsure why the nodes originally had crossing=no, but I think removing the highway tag makes them even more inaccurate. Leaving aside the "undiscussed mechanical edit" issues (see https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2016-July/076403.html for

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/07/2016 17:29, Éric Gillet wrote: So at least one user should reach out to the contributor before involving the DWG ? That would be great but that's not currently the case in my experience. The vast majority of my DWG interactions with other OSM users are "if you see something

Re: [OSM-talk] Beginning with contribution

2016-08-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/08/2016 07:56, Abhishek Gupta wrote: 1. First of all, is OOP being used in the project? Can I have support the project in a way it improves my OOP skills? Yes, lots of the software are OSM is OO based (and so is pretty much everywhere else in the world today - after all, even OO COBOL

Re: [OSM-talk] Untagged Nodes and Ways

2017-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/01/2017 22:55, Clifford Snow wrote: iD issue 3806 [2] requested that untagged ways would prevent the user from uploading a changeset. Bryan thought it is fine for user to add an untagged way for someone else to fix. I see his point that they may get discouraged and not continue to

Re: [OSM-talk] Destructive new 'contributor'

2017-01-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/01/17 10:50, Dave F wrote: Hi Some one from China has made some meaningless & erroneous edit in Bristol, UK which I've reverted, For completeness, that was https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45364788 Unfortunately your comments there weren't really actionable - they don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Untagged Nodes and Ways

2017-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/01/2017 00:17, john whelan wrote: I'm wandering through Africa at the moment basically tagging untagged ways and area=yes. I think I've corrected several thousand but something that I've just hit are boxes tagged hires=yes or no. Those I think are referring to where there was Bing high

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/02/2017 10:15, Florian Lohoff wrote: After Europe was fixed in <24h it seems i started to wade through Africa and i am seeing some error class which makes me wonder is somebody did some large scale autonomous Aerial scan for buildings. There are literally hundrets of building which have

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2017-02-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/02/2017 08:56, joost schouppe wrote: Well the annoyance with spam does pop up often enough. The usual answer to things like this in the OSM ecosystem is "why don't you do it yourself". I've not seen this answer for spam. Is there no easy way for people to become spam-police if they

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality in rural areas (Was: [Analytics] February 15, 2017 Research Showcase)

2017-02-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/02/2017 13:29, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Node density, adjusted for population density, 2014: https://i.imgur.com/hBNEGNT.png (found at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7958598) - I would love to see that updated. Variance seems higher in low population area. Would edit density or tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

2016-08-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/08/2016 16:19, Hakuch wrote: following the wiki, its not deprecated https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in I was surprised when I read that the other day too... However, I really would love to see a scheme that shows how nominatim finds it results.. There's the

Re: [OSM-talk] Data Quality and Mapping for the renderer.

2016-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2016 12:40, john whelan wrote: Now the idea of something that picks up a POI such as a shop for review every x months is interesting and its not impossible to build a suitable tool. I wonder who I can chat to. There was a web-based thing that did exactly that (can't remember where,

[OSM-talk] Pronunciation (was: Re: Spoken street names)

2016-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2016 18:21, Štefan Baebler wrote: Having TTS to hear the street names is very nice, but hearing them correctly pronounced would be even better. There was an attempt at it: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Phonetics But AFAIK there was no outcome from that

[Talk-it] Sardinian vs Italian names

2016-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
nue to change placenames continually between "Italian" and "Sardinian / Italian" variants. People have already been temporarily blocked for doing that and if the "Rubamazzetto" continues it'll happen again. If "someone has to make a decision" it might be a

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/08/2016 19:10, Paul Johnson wrote: I swear to god we've been over this... Surely the natural conclusion is a "what3osmtalkthreads" - something like "your address is 'sidewalks, imports, licensing' ..." :) Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Mailing lists archive not in Google

2016-08-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/08/2016 17:23, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Hi, The mailing list archives at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/ are currently not indexed by Google. I suppose this is caused by the tag that is included in every page of the archive. Maybe I'm missing something, but a web search of

Re: [OSM-talk] New mapper's dubious amendments

2016-09-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/09/2016 13:01, Dave F wrote: Hi This new mapper has peppered the world with a few edits that seem unlikely: I've commented specifically on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/42260051 . If they don't reply and keep editing we* can look at taking further action. If they don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual feedback wanted for OpenStreetMap Carto

2016-09-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/09/2016 11:13, Paul Norman wrote: The changes this topic is about are not live on openstreetmap.org. The original message has details, but the issue tracking the proposed changes is https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2349, and you can see images there that show

Re: [Talk-it] Sardinian vs Italian names. Una pagina sul wiki per decidere

2016-11-21 Thread Andy Townsend
community decision / vote / page on the wiki to decide / whatever can take place. Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group. (Traduzione automatica) Hi dan980, Grazie a per commentare il changeset. Ho ritornato nello stesso modo di prima, per mantenere lo &

Re: [OSM-talk] Lot's of locality names in an otherwise empty area

2016-11-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/11/2016 11:42, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sebastian Arcus wrote: Well, looking at the map, it looks like each and every parcel of land and section of field has a locality tag associated with it. It's very common in the UK, too, for uninhabited sections of woodland and hillside to have

Re: [Talk-it] Gonzaga - colorazione di sfondo errata

2016-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
Zoom in, and click "history" and you'll see a changeset "deleted large building". Someone (not you!) added a building covering most of the northern hemisphere by mistake, and it was ‎deleted this afternoon.‎ Some tiles haven't been updated yet due to other temporary delays (see the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application:

2016-12-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/12/2016 12:20, Rory McCann wrote: How about someone local go there, survey, and possibly remove the node? If users are providing feedback, maybe someone should look into it, rather than complain that the user keeps providing feedback. It's was a "My Local", and certainly isn't now

Re: [OSM-talk] This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application:

2016-12-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/12/2016 11:49, Dave F wrote: Hi http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Peter%20Mount/notes They are all for the same entity. How can we stop this annoying repetition? 1) Try and contact the user, via changeset discussion comments, note updates or similar. if that doesn't work 2) Send

Re: [Talk-it] Sardinian vs Italian names. Una pagina sul wiki per decidere

2016-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, Any news on the language decision for names in Sardinia? It's been over three months now that the Data Working Group got involved (and it was being discussed long before that). I realise that there have been more important votes recently than on a wiki page about the names to use on

Re: [OSM-talk] Cleanup of Wiki Page "Contact_channels"

2016-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2016 19:38, Michael Reichert wrote: The page lists three XMPP channels. ... Are there any objections against moving the English channel into a section called "formerly used communication channels"? I'd actually delete it - the history of the page will be in the wiki history.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/01/17 12:23, mi...@groundtruth.in wrote: * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron ... As Frederik said, better reporting and processing can benefit DWG. This is something I want to spend time on. I think that it's important that how we do this sort of thing as a project is

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2017 12:19, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 4 January 2017 at 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Wikidata tags in OSM are already of low quality because of mindless mass-addition by people with zero local knowledge Oh, please stop with this FUD. Unless you have evidence* to

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2017 22:24, Mikel Maron wrote: Ok I hear you. Let me walk this back a step. Not the same standard, but a standard beyond now that gives some visibility to the process. I know there is a process of monitoring, analysis, communication and action followed by the DWG. Let's document that.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2017 15:36, Andy Mabbett wrote: Please quantify that; against the total number of Wikidata tags. 214 changes in that changeset; at first glance 82 civil parishes in there likely to be in error if they have the "Dunham on Trent" problem - about 38%.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2017 15:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 4 January 2017 at 13:09, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: Do my comments on http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43749373 count as "evidence" or "anecdotes" in your book? It is evidence that /one/ tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2017 16:43, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: * I think MapRoulette is actually the tool we should use to fix these issues. Hell no. Let's consider that when MapRoulette users have fixed all problems with the TIGER data in the USA - a task that it is far better suited to. MapRoulette's great

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2017 16:05, Andy Mabbett wrote: Third time of asking: would you accept a single random bad tag/changeset on OSM as evidence that "tags in OSM are already of low quality"? What's that got to do with the price of fish? To be clear, this isn't one single changeset. It's just

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2017 21:01, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 4 January 2017 at 19:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: we can afford to wait until someone who actually knows the area they are working in has the time to add Wikidata tags. As has been made clear in other discussions in which you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

2016-12-27 Thread Andy Townsend
Just to pick up one point from this... On 26/12/16 11:36, Rod Bera wrote: Systematic bias put into the OSM base towards maximising benefits for a minority of users is a threat. Especially when the primary interest of these users is not OSM in itself. Sounds like I'm bang to rights there!

Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

2016-12-26 Thread Andy Townsend
Well, and apologies if this appears in any way snarky, you appear not to have welcomed any Pokemon users, whereas the person that you are criticising has (e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/44637591 )... OSM really doesn't need people more people telling other people what they

Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon source tags preferred method

2017-03-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/03/2017 09:41, Jochen Topf wrote: Putting the sources on the objects has been deprecated for a while. Ahem. Just because _you_ don't do it, doesn't make it "wrong". Yes, where a whole bunch of stuff has been added from one source (or a combination of sources), of course it makes

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

2017-03-20 Thread Andy Townsend
Just to add one more comment to what has been a very useful thread discussing the options available: At no time did anyone see fit to actually try and get in touch with the user who made these edits explaining what OSM is and trying to win them over from "mapping for Pokemon" to mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi Polygon problem - could someone take a look?

2017-04-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/04/2017 11:29, Dave F wrote: Move a node & the way's vector is amended. Common sense tells you that the polygon has changed & needs to be listed as such. It appears that the data takes priority over the needs of the contributors. This can't be correct. When in JOSM, I've sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for "primary language" map

2017-04-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/04/2017 00:55, James wrote: Also have you checked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory A bit offtopic, but it's worth mentioning that that is exactly what it says it is - a list of "oficial languages", not what language is actually spoken

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging and rendering of television masts

2017-04-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/04/2017 07:33, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: It is possible to map it as: "man_made=mast", "height=190", etc., then it will be rendered. In the general case, please don't suggest that people mistag things just so that one particular renderer (one that probably isn't used by the majority of

Re: [OSM-talk] Changing Bing to bing

2017-03-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/03/2017 07:32, Werner Poppele wrote: before uploading data to OSM, JOSM showed an error / warning message about the "suspect" writing of "Bing". That was the reason for changing "Bing" to "bing". Hi Werner, I'm guessing that the context of this message is changeset discussion

Re: [OSM-talk] Call from OSGeo members to discussion about OSM and synergies

2017-03-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/03/2017 10:21, Benoit Fournier wrote: Hello OSM community, Please find a call from Suchith Anand (OSGeo/FOSS4G/Geo4All, University of Nottingham UK). ... Please do get in touch if you want to get involved. There's an active OSM group in Nottingham (including me); he's welcome come

Re: [Talk-it] utente sempre lui

2017-04-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2017 18:49, Daniele Gitto wrote: Solo per segnalare che l'utente bloccato si è iscritto ieri con username オプンストリトマップ. Vediamo se è guarito (ma è già partito con la prima fontanella "Fontanella" :-) Indeed, the editing style looks identical. As before I'd suggest that people

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging and rendering of television masts

2017-04-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/04/2017 22:56, Andy Mabbett wrote: the Sutton Coldfield (England) TV mast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_Coldfield_transmitting_station at: http://www.opensntreetmap.org/?mlat=37.08321=-8.13643#map=17/37.0832/-8.1364 That's the one in Portugal, I think? Sutton

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging and rendering of television masts

2017-04-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/04/2017 13:51, Greg Troxel wrote: However, if one renders and one doesn't, in the default style, that's a bug, and presumably someone can make a pull request to fix it - it seems obviously uncontroversial. You'd have thought so, but a project maintainer closed exactly that issue at

Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal

2017-06-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/06/2017 22:42, Andrew Hain wrote: Have you tried politely making changeset comments asking this? (just in case anyone's unaware that it exists) http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions?c=Nepal#8/27.529/86.310 shows this week's changeset discussion comments centred on Nepal. Best

Re: [OSM-talk] Wheelchair accessibility

2017-09-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/09/2017 13:19, Clifford Snow wrote: ... which makes it difficult for some people in wheelchairs to access. Even though the requirement is there, I would probably mark it as inaccessible. Funnily enough, someone at a recent OSM East Mids meetup mentioned exactly that sort of issue -

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/10/2017 08:29, Tobias Zwick wrote: Does the dev API have real (=mirrored) data? It has whatever data you add to it.  I've used it in the past to demonstrate a "different way of mapping something" by copying everything from live to dev in a small area and then making the changes in

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/10/2017 12:06, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Andy, the query works fine, you probably hit it during the update. That now produces a worldwide map showing where mappers have used a particular tag.  Except in the case of typing errors you shouldn't be changing tagX to tagY without any other

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/09/2017 03:40, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: ... I have been blocked by Andy Townsend with the following message. Let's begin at the beginning - this was a "0-hour block" - you weren't prevented from using the API for _any_ period of time, merely forced to read this mes

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/09/2017 14:53, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: If not Latin, then why English? Why not French? Well _obviously_ the answer is Esperanto.  There are a few Esperanto enthusiasts adding names to OSM (see e.g. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name%3Aeo and

[OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2017 15:35, John F. Eldredge wrote: The spatial information will tell you where each business location is; it is not sufficient to tell you whether these are multiple locations of the same brand, or two unrelated brands that share the same name and category of business. Can anyone

[OSM-talk] Licence compatibility (was Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag)

2017-10-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/10/2017 02:56, Paul Norman wrote: On 10/1/2017 5:39 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Lastly, if the coordinates are different, you may not copy it from OSM to Wikidata because of the difference in the license. Just for clarity and anyone reading the archives later, copying from Wikidata to

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