editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list):
I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with
mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed.
SL That is you. You're not me and, well, the other 6 billion people on this
SL planet.
Oleg You are not me
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 7:48:38 PM, Thomas wrote:
As a programmer, I don't understand why you would not appreciate the
virual space
Sure, space over to where I want, go up, add code in another block, drop
back down, spaces are gone. :)
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 11:14:54 PM, Oleg wrote:
Ïîæèâåì -- óâèäèì. We'll live -- we'll see. Real life is not always
what a child of 5 will grasp. I have strong doubts that this ideal
scheme is implementable in real life.
No, it isn't. But then considering the concept, this is
à : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
de : Claude (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
le 18/01/2000, 23:36:39, heure française.
Objet : suggestion- / wish-list
Bonjour TBUDL,
En réponse à message du 18/01/2000,
SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote:
Of course
Hi Steve,
SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote:
Of course the external editor option looks more attractive all the time.
SL OF course it does.
IMO the term 'external editor' is a little misleading.
It is possible to integrate such a component written
by another company
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Monday, January 17, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to Allie Martin about
External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list):
SL When you look at the base level and how to handle the data as
SL ASCII editing with all the functions that are similar, you see
SL
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:20 +0400, Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
[..snip..]
That is not a problem with external editor which allow scripting. The
problems begin only when you use macros which use information
unavailable to external editor, just because it's external. One of
examples
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
suggestion- / wish-list:
OZ That is not a problem with external editor which allow scripting. The
OZ problems begin only when you use macros which use information
OZ unavailable
Hi Tom,
On 18 January 2000 at 17:50:56 GMT -0800 (which was 01:50 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
AVK Please, don't do this! Maybe as an option only;-) It's thel
AVK thing I like *most* in TB's editor, morethenthat, I use *only*
AVK the editors that support
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Allie Martin wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
suggestion- / wish-list:
AM So what's your axe against TB! supporting an external editor?
No, it is against removing current internal editor.
It is just my personal opinion said by the way
Monday, January 17, 2000, 8:52:12 PM, Jast wrote:
- take hand off kb, grab for mouse (ca .5 sec, not much more than moving it
to PgUp on the keyboard)
Move hand to PgUp
- use scrollbar to move up 9 pages (usually faster than 9x PgUp, gets quicker
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:02:28 AM, Oleg wrote:
I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with
mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed.
That is you. You're not me and, well, the other 6 billion people on this
planet.
--
Steve C. Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:15:11 AM, Marck wrote:
No - so that you can begin to understand the power of the virtual
space for plain text formatting.
With space cansome things.
virtual you do interesting
Without it - no possibility.
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:41:55 AM, Oleg wrote:
It is just my personal opinion said by the way that adding some kind of a
hook for external editor to TB! will not save time to RITlabs to be more
concentrated on mail-specific functions.
Then you haven't thought it through.
Add
In Reference to "External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)" From Steve Lamb:
I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with
mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed.
SL That is you. You're not me and, well, the other 6 billion people
Hi there!
On 17 Jan 00, at 17:50, Tom Plunket wrote
about "Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list":
AVK Press downdownhome instead;-)
MDP it's only one additional keystroke after all.
Umm, it's 50% more typing. See, the problem doesn't manifest itself
'til you're actually try
Hi there!
On 18 Jan 00, at 7:32, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list":
It is just my personal opinion said by the way that adding some kind of a
hook for external editor to TB! will not save time to RITlabs to be more
concentrated on mail-specific
Hi Steve,
On 18 January 2000 at 07:31:12 GMT -0800 (which was 15:31 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
TP Seriously, the reason I don't like virtual space have nothing to
TP do with the fact that I'm not used to it.
Now you're not making any sense. With
TP Well, you two aren't typical Windows users. As it goes, virtual
TP spacel has some people who like it and others who don't.
MDP Tom - that's not reasonable.
Which of you is a typical Windows sheep then?
MDP We're both *very different users* who happen to agree on this
MDP point.
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote:
Of course the external editor option looks more attractive all the time.
OF course it does. You'd think with Unix folks building on pushing 30
years of computing experience they'd get a few things right. I still find it
amusing that a
\\\|///
/ ~ _ \
(- O o -)
--oOOo-(_)-oOOo---
Hello Tom,
TP Right, atypical of the standard Windows crowd. Tell me, when you set
TP up Windows, does either one of you choose "Typical
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:17:45 PM, Roel wrote:
all the 'crap' is removed :-) don't worry about it: it isn't there...
I can think of one that is there. One that they had to put a special case
in just for all of this foofie cursor play. ;)
TP I agree with Steve. If I put four spaces
Hi Tom,
On 18 January 2000 at 12:33:36 GMT -0800 (which was 20:33 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
TP do you EVER choose "typical installation"?
Absolutely never. What's your point?
TP Plain-text formatting? That's ridiculous.
My example was inane, I accept
Hi Tom,
On 18 January 2000 at 12:37:24 GMT -0800 (which was 20:37 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
TP Are they really gone?
Yes.
TP Does anybody know FOR SURE?
Me, for one. You, if you tried it for yourself.
--
Cheers,
.\\arck
Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant
Hello Nick Danger,
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:56:41 -0600 GMT your local time,
which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:56:41 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Nick Danger wrote:
Nick In Reference to "External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)" From Steve
Lamb:
I don't need excell
Hi Steve,
On 18 January 2000 at 12:39:12 GMT -0800 (which was 20:39 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
SL *Steve then points out that in some editors that isn't needed
SL since it retains the column that the cursor was last in, even on
SL short lines, even
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:03:19 +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
TP Power. You keep implying that useless features are powerful.
Useless to you, perhaps.
Ditto. The free caret interface rocks. The *free* caret is just that.
*Free*. You may do what you want with it in the visible space.
TP do you EVER choose "typical installation"?
MDP Absolutely never. What's your point?
My point was the fact that the people I was talking to took issue with
the fact that I stated these people were atypical Windows users. I
was pointing out that I was, indeed, dead-on.
TP Plain-text
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:38:48 PM, Tom wrote:
So, then, on the arguement that you cite and seem to support, what are
your thoughts of adding NNTP support to The Bat!?
We've discussed it at length.
Certainly that seems like a slightly larger proposition than a few
checkboxes in the
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:20:05 PM, Marck wrote:
SL *Steve then points out that in some editors that isn't needed
SL since it retains the column that the cursor was last in, even on
SL short lines, even if it positions the cursor on column 1 for the
SL one line between.* :)
Ah - so
Hi Tom,
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:38:48 -0800GMT (19/01/2000, 09:38 +0800GMT),
Tom Plunket wrote:
TP I started programming 18 years ago. All of the editors I used did,
TP indeed, have what we could call virtual space.
Well, I started programming 22 years ago, and some our very first
programmes
Hi Tom,
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:20:10 -0800GMT (19/01/2000, 04:20 +0800GMT),
Tom Plunket wrote:
TP Hey, do it a thousand times. That's a thousand wasted keystrokes.
TP I'm not saying one stroke is bad, but over the course of a day, it'd
TP be nice to have things behave like you expect.
Hit the
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
suggestion- / wish-list:
SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:41:55 AM, Oleg wrote:
It is just my personal opinion said by the way that adding some kind of a
hook for external editor to TB
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Wednesday, January 19, 2000, tracer wrote to Nick Danger about
External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list):
I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with
mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed.
SL That is you
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 1:58:51 AM, Oleg wrote:
At least I have need in preview when killing mail. The preview in TB! is
based on the editor. Or should there be external message viewer also?
It isn't based on the editor. It is the other way around. The preview is
just a viewing
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 3:51:02 AM, Oleg wrote:
That is almost exactly what I mean all this time. Just one more point. Steve
states that if there will bie an option of using an external editor RitLabs
will have more time to concentrate on mail-oriented features of TB! I still
think that
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 7:57:02 AM, Allie wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I had a look around and cannot seem to find an
editor that will work as well as TB!'s with respect to formatting and
reflowing *quoted* text. Boxer 99 comes very close and of course is
superior at formatting
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 8:06:40 AM, Allie wrote:
Yes, this different slant that different editors tend to be better at
editing for different tasks, tends deviate from the strength in Steve's
point. A single editor ideal for *all* tasks is a less likely scenario than
a single editor for
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:41:56 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
[..snip..]
I prefer to have 5 specialized editors rather than one capable of doing 5
tasks. Because combined mixer and coffee grinder is bad mixer and bad coffee
grinder.
*ROFL*
Mail Client - Coffee Mixer
Internal Editor
Hi Steve,
On 17 January 2000 at 00:41:56 GMT -0800 (which was 08:41 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
SL Losing the current marked text. Why bother? Ever try to remark 9
SL pages of text because of a missed line? You're also assuming that
SL "home" takes to where
Morning Steve Lamb,
Losing the current marked text. Why bother? Ever try to remark 9 pages of
text because of a missed line? You're also assuming that "home" takes to
where I want, which it does not. In this one case...
Luckily TB editor will allow you to add selection on both ends
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Monday, January 17, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
suggestion- / wish-list:
At least I have need in preview when killing mail. The preview in TB! is
based on the editor. Or should there be external message viewer also?
SL It isn't based
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:52:51 +0400, Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
[..snip..]
I don't want to have it in message template, because I will forget to
delete it always -- and I don't want to delete some text from every
message to be able to have it in about 2 or 3 messages a week.
So it is Quick
Monday, January 17, 2000, 2:14:25 AM, Jast wrote:
Luckily TB editor will allow you to add selection on both ends of a
selection block (with Shift+mouseclick where you want it) so you won't have
to go the full procedure when you forgot a line...
Mouse text editing. You have tentacles, do
Monday, January 17, 2000, 6:52:51 AM, Oleg wrote:
Really? They at least share the code for displaying message and cursor
movement and search. Only editing itself disabled while viewing message.
Right. Considering the viewer is the lesser of the two objects, which do
you think is based on
Hi there!
On 17 Jan 00, at 0:44, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list":
Just out of curiosity, I had a look around and cannot seem to find an
editor that will work as well as TB!'s with respect to formatting and
reflowing *quoted* text. Boxer 99 comes
Since we're talking about the editor, is there a way to turn of
"virtual space" so the cursor won't go places where there are none of
spaces, characters, CR created lines? I like to be at the end of a
paragraph and hit rightright to go to the beginning of the next,
but as you all may know, it
Monday, January 17, 2000, 4:36:07 PM, Alexander wrote:
AVK Hi there!
AVK On 17 Jan 00, at 12:36, Tom Plunket wrote
AVK about "Re[3]: suggestion- / wish-list":
Since we're talking about the editor, is there a way to turn of
"virtual space" so the cursor w
Hi G.,
On 17 January 2000 at 18:09:15 GMT -0500 (which was 23:09 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
Since we're talking about the editor, is there a way to turn of
"virtual space" so the cursor won't go places where there are none
of spaces, characters, CR
AVK Press downdownhome instead;-)
MDP (it's only one additional keystroke after all.
Umm, it's 50% more typing. See, the problem doesn't manifest itself
'til you're actually trying to use the software in a real fashion, and
you don't want to fight with the interface.
AVK Please, don't do
On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 01:05:19AM +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
grumblemumble Might I humbly suggest you use TB as an e-mail
client a while longer. The editor is one thing that suddenly leaps out as
being very well suited to the job it does for the /type of
information/ it
Hi Tom,
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:50:56 -0800GMT (18/01/2000, 09:50 +0800GMT),
Tom Plunket wrote:
MDP (it's only one additional keystroke after all.
TP Umm, it's 50% more typing.
Wow, you time must be extremely valuable. ;-)
AVK Please, don't do this! Maybe as an option only;-) It's the thing
Hello Steve Lamb,
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:06:40 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 9:06:40 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 01:05:19AM +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
grumblemumble Might I humbly suggest you use TB
Morning Steve Lamb,
Mouse text editing. You have tentacles, do you?
Actually, no. However I have two hands, each with 5 fingers. 5+5=10. An
octopus has only 8 tentacles, a squid has 10 more or less independently
movable ones. But these might stick to the keyboard, so
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Monday, January 17, 2000, Allie Martin wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
suggestion- / wish-list:
AM That's a valid concern. Using quick templates during message
AM composition would definitely be a problem when using an external editor
AM especially when using
Hi Oleg,
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:20 +0400GMT (18/01/2000, 15:06 +0800GMT),
Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
OZ That is not a problem with external editor which allow scripting. The
OZ problems begin only when you use macros which use information
OZ unavailable to external editor, just
Hallo Nick,
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:20:02 -0800 GMT (16.01.2000, 15:20 +0800 GMT),
Nick Andriash wrote:
NA I'm still unclear though on the issue of using an external editor. Is TB
NA capable of calling up one... providing a hook, but if not, then exactly
NA how _do_ you use an external editor
Hello Nick Andriash,
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:20:02 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, January 16, 2000, 2:20:02 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Nick Andriash wrote:
Nick On Saturday, January 15, 2000, 7:57:02 AM, Allie Martin wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I had a look around and
On Saturday, January 15, 2000, 7:57:02 AM, Allie Martin wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I had a look around and cannot seem to find an
editor that will work as well as TB!'s with respect to formatting and
reflowing *quoted* text. Boxer 99 comes very close and of course is
superior at
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:19:07 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote:
Exactly. More is better. Separate parts is better. Monolithic is bad.
Why?
Choice. :)
To some degree you are most certainly correct, but I think it depends
on the task. For example, if the only time you ever do any
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Thursday, January 13, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
suggestion- / wish-list:
SL Thursday, January 13, 2000, 1:26:27 AM, Oleg wrote:
Because it's an argument for a single tool: TheBat! for all tasks
regarding mail management.
SL
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:33:18 +0400, Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
SL Exactly. TB! is an email client, not an editor. They should be
SL concentrating on the email client and its interface, not on an editor.
It's not possible if they will not remove editor at all. If it will be
present while
Hi Oleg,
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:33:18 +0400GMT (14/01/2000, 18:33 +0800GMT),
Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
SL Exactly. TB! is an email client, not an editor. They should be
SL concentrating on the email client and its interface, not on an editor.
OZ It's not possible if they will not remove
Friday, January 14, 2000, 12:40:39 AM, Allie wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:19:07 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote:
To some degree you are most certainly correct, but I think it depends
on the task. For example, if the only time you ever do any ASCII
text editing is for e-mail
Aaah, and
Friday, January 14, 2000, 2:51:45 AM, Allie wrote:
requirements of computing would be to furnish oneself with a decent ASCII
editor that may be used with all these application types. Perhaps, windows
would come packaged with an ASCII editor better than notepad. :))
I think you hit upon
Friday, January 14, 2000, 2:33:18 AM, Oleg wrote:
Editing has.
Nope. One does not need to edit mail to send/received/file/sort/kill
mail. Before anyone gets any ideas about "send", bounce (er, redirect, damned
non-standard terminology) a message to someone. Whoa, ya just sent a message
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
suggestion- / wish-list:
It can do any task at hand depending on user skills even with no need
to change configuration. Just visit Kizhi for an example.
SL Then why hold it up
Hello Alexander,
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 3:35:25 AM, you wrote:
AVK DDE is the only *effective* protocol IMO existing under windoze that allows
AVK dirrect applications transactions. It really *works*...
DDE is an obsolete protocol brought from Win3.1. There are a lot of
BETTER
Hello Alex Sanyukovitch,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:37:09 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 4:37:09 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Alex Sanyukovitch wrote:
Alex Hello Alexander,
Alex Thursday, January 13, 2000, 3:35:25 AM, you wrote:
AVK DDE is the only *effective*
Hi there!
On 13 Jan 00, at 11:37, Alex Sanyukovitch wrote
about "Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list":
AVK DDE is the only *effective* protocol IMO existing under windoze that allows
AVK dirrect applications transactions. It really *works*...
DDE is an obsolete protocol br
Hi there!
On 12 Jan 00, at 18:29, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list":
I believe it's normal, if you don't think so, it's your problem.
Furthermore, if your favourite vim doesn't support DDE, it's another *your*
problem (and problem of other vim users und
Hello Alexander,
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 4:37:07 PM, you wrote:
AVK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
AVK Lines: 51
AVK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just wonder why you ALWAYS have this filed doubled?
AVK Finally, who told you DDE is obsolete? M$? Half of OS/2 is based on DDE,
AVK and it
Hello Alexander V. Kiselev,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:37:07 +0300 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:37:07 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
so I can see only one reason for RITLabs programmers to support DDE in The
Bat! -- in Delphi DDE was
Hello Alex Sanyukovitch,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:15:41 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 10:15:41 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Alex Sanyukovitch wrote:
There are a lot of BETTER methods -- OLE,
AVK No, don't say OLE is better a method;-) Do you *really* think
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 1:26:27 AM, Oleg wrote:
Because it's an argument for a single tool: TheBat! for all tasks
regarding mail management.
^^
Spell checking and editing don't fall under management.
It has nothing to do with the problem we are
On Thursday, January 13, 2000, 8:43:20 AM, Steve Lamb wrote:
Exactly. TB! is an email client, not an editor. They should be
concentrating on the email client and its interface, not on an editor.
Good post Steve... I'm finally beginning to see your point on using an
external editor. :o)
Hello Steve Lamb,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:43:20 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 11:43:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
I think that scripting is not a panacea because as any interpreter it is not
much of efficiency by the definition. I prefer
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:01:36 AM, Nick wrote:
Good post Steve... I'm finally beginning to see your point on using an
external editor. :o) However, what about us that are not comfortable with
some of the Unix style editors you mention.
Which is perfectly understandable. Until I
Hi there!
On 13 Jan 00, at 17:15, Alex Sanyukovitch wrote
about "Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list":
AVK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
AVK Lines: 51
AVK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just wonder why you ALWAYS have this filed doubled?
Some server on the route adds another
Hello Nick Andriash,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:01:36 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 12:01:36 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Nick Andriash wrote:
Nick On Thursday, January 13, 2000, 8:43:20 AM, Steve Lamb wrote:
Exactly. TB! is an email client, not an editor.
Hi Nick,
...
However, what about us that are not comfortable with
some of the Unix style editors you mention. I'm not sure of the terminology,
but what I'm getting at is... what "good" editor do you know of that will
have a decent GUI to make it easy for us less technical people to use?
I'm
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:43:20 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
[..snip..]
Let's cut to the chase, shall we? On Winfiles I counted a good ~70 email
clients of various capacities and ~50 programs dealing with news. Let's
figure 20 of those email programs aren't really clients and a good 30 of the
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 12:38:05 PM, Allie wrote:
Most windows based editors for these application types are quite basic and
remarkably consistent in how they function.
[snip-o-rama]
[portion about all applications shipping robust editors]
It would be *then*, that people would be
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:38:10 PM, Januk wrote:
As many as are out there, until you find something that does *exactly*
what you need. I installed heaps of software when I upgraded my
computer, simply because I didn't know what would work best.
Exactly. More is better. Separate
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:36:19 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
I wanted to take these two sentences, isolate them, and then have
people read them together as this is the main thrust of my argument.
It is because they are all shipping basic editors people are
constantly asking for more
Hello,
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 6:23:49 AM, you wrote:
What do you think now?
I think that it sounds extremely difficult to create a universal hook.
There are so many conditions and variations that trying to learn how
to configure the hook will be harder than just learning the "new"
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:48:18 PM, Allie wrote:
begin speculation I think the deviation from your more ideal
paradigm is based on the fact that most windows based editors don't
provide advanced e-mail type editing functions especially with respect to
quoting. Also, an integrated
Hi Steve,
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:44:01 PM, you wrote:
Exactly. More is better. Separate parts is better. Monolithic is bad.
Why?
Choice. :)
To some degree you are most certainly correct, but I think it depends
on the task. For example, if the only time you ever do any
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
suggestion- / wish-list:
Why do carpenters need other tools than bench axe? Underlying concept
to most of those is the same: wood.
SL A bench axe cannot change configuration to suit
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Steve Lamb about
Editor (was: Re: suggestion- / wish-list):
SL Because a dedicated editor will always be better than an editor thrown in
SL to be "good enough."
TF Many good editors have be
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:10:26 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Sounds good to me. What happens in PMMail when you are finsihed
editing and want to send/save/discard the message?
You close the external editor and the PMMail message editor window with
only the header section appears. You may then
Hi there!
On 12 Jan 00, at 3:28, John Sullivan wrote
about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list":
I often alter these headers in the middle of message composition. This
is convenient to do with a built-in (or tightly coupled) editor, less
so with a completely external edito
Hi there!
On 12 Jan 00, at 12:14, tracer wrote
about "Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list":
Steve, any idea what editors you have seen under windows which might do the
job as external editors for the Bat?? Presumably calling a different editor
with a fake notepad.ex
Hi there!
On 11 Jan 00, at 14:05, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list":
Which is possible. I've seen books written in just VI. OTOH, you'll note
I didn't put word processing into my list because I do know that is a
different task than just editing
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 7:28:19 PM, John wrote:
I often alter these headers in the middle of message composition. This
is convenient to do with a built-in (or tightly coupled) editor, less
so with a completely external editor.
Conceded. OTOH, I, more often than not, want to pipe text
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:14:06 PM, tracer wrote:
Steve, any idea what editors you have seen under windows which might
do the job as external editors for the Bat??
Well, an editor which just edits plain text would work. As I've said, my
preference is for vim which is really a unix[1]
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 2:27:53 AM, Oleg wrote:
It can do any task at hand depending on user skills even with no need
to change configuration. Just visit Kizhi for an example.
Then why hold it up as an argument against a single tool? :P
I didn't say it's all impossible. I just
Hi there!
On 12 Jan 00, at 9:03, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list":
Steve, any idea what editors you have seen under windows which might
do the job as external editors for the Bat??
Well, an editor which just edits plain text would work. As I'v
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:05:40 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
top, kill, and... oh wait, Windows, right, right. Reset key. I've got my
Linux box doing all my important work. Windows is just games. I've given up
on trying to make it stable and just wack the reset key.
My NTWS install here
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 3:16:28 PM, Allie wrote:
My NTWS install here is stable without my trying. :)
OK, now play the latest games on NT. :P
I use NoteTab Pro since my editing needs increased beyond the realms
of NotePad. vbg NoteTab Pro is certainly no piece of cake.
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