In a message dated 11/16/2004 8:00:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I haven't had time to read it, but I have had many bring up this
book when I have taught on gender differences and the need for men to be
comfortable being masculine.
psychobabble --- I know of one w
In a message dated 11/15/2004 2:17:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We first started getting bogged down with terminology that you used which I
found to be ambiguous (e.g., authoritative appeal, perfected by another,
etc.). When I pointed out that you were wrong about no N
:)
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why aren't you
followg your advice to Jeff (Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:11:46
-0500)?
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004
My memory as to what?
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 16, 2004 16:12
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Can God's
covenants be broken?
Here, Lance. Does this revive your
memory? Izzy
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jt: Oh but I am Gary; I am not seeking your counsel,
just curious because I find nothing
about you consistent other than the word "myth".
BTW what is the ff concept ie (the ff. concept is not
true)?
why aren't you
followg your advice to Jeff (Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:11:46
-0
'I am the Lord your God, who rescued you from the
land of Egypt; the place of your slavery.' Exodus 20:2
PS:If you keep the first you keep 'em
all.
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John Eldredge, like so many authors who've
experienced success, has become a mini-industry. I personally prefer his first
title 'The Sacred Romance' which he co-authored with Brent Curtis.However, all
of his books appear helpful to many men (girlie or otherwise) and women. In my
judgment, Wi
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Two recommendations:'The Trinity &
Subordinationism-The Doctrine of God & the Contemporary Gender Debate (Kevin
Giles) and, 'Worship, Community & The Triune God of Grace' (see chapter four
'Gender, sexuality and the Trinity). All the thinking (of believers) is to be
subsumed under The Trini
What Scripture shows you that legalism is defined in the way
that you define it
Acts 15:1 Some men came down from Judea teaching the brethren, "Unless
you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be
saved."
Galatians 5:4 You have been severed from Christ, you who
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'should not be taken personally' The word 'person'
is of significance in understanding 'One God, three
persons' .
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 16, 2004 18:12
Subject: [TruthTalk] Self-deception
From: "David Mi
If you read Isaiah 1 in total (which I did for content
purposes) God is very upset with the evil that His
people are practicing. Because of that evil, He does
not accept their sacrifices and their feasts. They
were not following the Lord in the way that he had
commanded.
You are right. We have bro
I'm not sure who you are because I don't think you
have ever given your name. But, I would appreciate it
if you would expound on your idea that these comments
are a myth. A lot of times you write "myth." That does
not help the reader see how it is a "myth" or "concept
is not true." How is it a myth
Susan Petersen wrote:
If you read Isaiah 1 in total (which I did for content
purposes) God is very upset with the evil that His
people are practicing. Because of that evil, He does
not accept their sacrifices and their feasts. They
were not following the Lord in the way that he had
commanded.
You a
Thank you for this explanation It really helps in
understanding your post.
Suzy
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> the Ap. Paul sanctioned one covenant in this
> context, a reality for which
> DavidM has no apparent feeling, hence his use of the
> word 'are', below
>
> the concept the Ap Paul pr
Here's some that will be balked at.
Kay
176 To examine the signs of animals to distinguish between kosher and
non-kosher Lev. 11:2
177 To examine the signs of fowl to distinguish between kosher
and non-kosher Deut. 14:11
178 To examine the signs of fish to distinguish between kosher and
non-ko
204 To ritually slaughter an animal before eating it Deut. 12:21
205 Not to slaughter an animal and its offspring on the same day Lev. 22:28
206 To cover the blood (of a slaughtered beast or fowl) with earth Lev.
17:13
207 Not to take the mother bird from her children Deut. 22:6
208 To release the
Oops, I thought he was a young one. Come to find out
he is only a year younger than me. And may be in the
same position as I am in with young one's of his own.
Too funny!
Suzy
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> In a message dated 11/16/2004 12:27:15 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
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Actually, Jesus is the author of the whole Bible. 2
Timothy 3:16- All scripture is God breathed... He just
used man to write it down for other people.
Suzy
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> In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:01:11 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Come to
Please explain what it should be translated.
Suzy
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> myth (the translation is faulty)
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:11:46 -0500 Judy Taylor
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> asserts:
> "These women are two covenants..
__
Do yo
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:22:19 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:> Here's some that will be balked at. Kay
jt: What then is the point of Peter's vision on the
rooftop before he went to the house
of Cornelius? And why are we instructed not to
make these kinds of distinctions
Yeah, Judy We agree. I am exicted about this.
Love is genderless. I also believe that women should
not teach unless there is no man that is qualified to
do so. Deborah was made a judge because no man was
qualified to fill that position. It was supposed to be
a slap in the face for the men of
Jeff wrote:
I see one covenant. God's covenant with man, begun with Abraham, amended
with Moses, Again amended with David. Jeremiah prophesied a renewal, as
did Isaiah, etc. That renewal was accomplished through Yeshua. The "New
Covenant" is not new, it is Renewed.
On what basis are you confiden
Huh?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004
4:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Can God's
covenants be broken?
My memory as to what?
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#195 and #196 are not correct translations of the Word, if I remember
correctly. Isn't the commandment not to boil a kid in its mother's milk?
How they ever came up with that meaning is beyond me. Izzy
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How
many times do we have to re-visit the same questions over and over? How about
first reading ALL of Acts 10 regarding Peter's vision. The answer to your first
question is in there, Judy.
Kay
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Right you are, Izzy. It simply says don't boil a kid in its mother's milk.
Kay
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Sent: Wednesday, 17 November, 2004 09.29
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]176 - 203 of 613 Commands
#1
John wrote:
KD writes before Nathan points the finger and says, "Thou art the man" in
Ps 7.
I'm not sure this was written before Nathan did this, but for the sake of
discussion, I will assume this to be true. If you have any evidence that it
was, please share it.
John wrote:
He not only gives
John wrote:
David, why in the world can you not simply say,
"I think this is wrong?" I don't understand why
you persist on couching the views of others,
views you disagree with, in complete opposition
to the biblical message.
I do not characterize all views as anathema. I characterized the viewp
David Miller wrote:
Come to think of it, Jesus was not an author. :-)
John wrote:
Actually, He is the author of the book of
Revelation, is He not?
I guess I can see how you might argue this from the first verse of
Revelation, but I think we have to say that John authored Revelation. If we
think
Dave Hansen wrote:
Today I received well over a hundred TT posts. Interestingly, a TTer who
once suggested we limit our daily posts to 8, made nearly a quarter (28)
of them today! ;-)
You are right, Dave. I need to back off. Thanks for helping moderate the
list. :-)
My apologies to eve
David Miller wrote:
What Scripture shows you that legalism is defined
in the way that you define it
Slade wrote:
Acts 15:1 Some men came down from Judea teaching the
brethren, "Unless you are circumcised according to the
custom of Moses, you cannot be saved."
Galatians 5:4 You have been severed fro
From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Please
tell me where Scripture says the Law of Moses is a hard yoke? Now...before
you get your panties all in a knot, please remember that there is aheavy
yoke in Scripture: Legalism (the belief that Law -- if followed --will grant
Eternal Life). Aside
jt: How do you know this woman was repentant? I've
never heard that before but I have heard ppl comment on the hypocrisy of
bringing her to Jesus and letting the man involved off (she didn't commit
adultery by herself); also if there is so much grace and warm fuzzies going on
how is it that
In a message dated 11/17/2004 11:49:39 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: How do you know this woman was repentant? I've
never heard that before but I have heard ppl comment on the hypocrisy of
bringing her to Jesus and letting the man involved off (she didn't com
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:56:47 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 11/17/2004 11:49:39 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: How do you know this woman was repentant? I've
never heard that before but I have heard ppl comment on the hypocrisy
From: Susan Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Yeah,
Judy We agree. I am exicted about this.
jt: That's good Suzy - me too!
Love is genderless. I also believe that women should not teach unless there
is no man that is qualified to do so. Deborah was made a judge because no man
was qualifi
This could be a good time
to make a few random comments on repentance. A few days ago
Terry asked John why the outline of parts of his faith didn't include the word
repentance. Most people on this forum believe that repentance is necessary
for salvation; they see it as a necessary step or
Amen ladies!!! Please keep this thread alive.
I'd love to 'listen in' on more. Men (we) have 'vacated' and women (you) have
had to occupy that 'vacated' space.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 17, 2004 13:37
Subject: [TruthTalk] Gender
differences
From: Susan Pe
ShieldsFamily wrote:
#195 and #196 are not correct translations of the Word, if I remember
correctly. Isn't the commandment not to boil a kid in its mother's milk?
How they ever came up with that meaning is beyond me. Izzy
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A quick aside to the listing of the Levitical Laws: Are the following
commands by God considered part of the Levetical Law or God's moral law?
I get a bit confused as some of the laws I consider to be moral are
included in what is often called the ceremonial list.
1) Be fruitful and mulitply
2)
From: Susan Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>My
husband has a theory on the shadow of things to come. He says that in order for
there to be a shadowthere has to be a real object or person casting that
shadow. Jesus is the real person casting the shadow.If we take away the
shadow then we take away
My view of repentance is to turn from sin. Doesn't the Bible tell us
that unless we repent we will perish? When we turn from sin we turn
toward Christ. Am I being too simplistic?
laura
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This could be a good time
to make a few random comments on repentance. A few
I would like to see men take the place that God has
intended for them. I don't know what the men on this
list are like in their homes, except for Slade and
Jeff. But I am committing myself to pray for you
gentlemen that you would take your place IF you
haven't and that you would be excellent exampl
I meant to include the heavenly temple. And Jesus is
the High Priest. This is what Hebrews 8:6 is talking
about a better way. Actually being in heaven with the
original temple and the Jesus the High Priest.
Suzy
--- Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Susan Petersen <[EMAIL PROT
Hi David,
You mention below that God says that David was right in everything
except the matter of Uriah. How do you understand the passage in 1
Chronicles 21:1-30 (parallelled in 2 Samuel 24:1-25) regarding David's
sin of numbering the people? How do you incorporate this 'sin' with the
matter of
who's
shaul?
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:05:27 -0800 (PST) Susan
Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> I'm not sure who you are because I don't
think you> have ever given your name. But, I would appreciate it>
if you would expound on your idea that these comments> are a myth. A lot
of times y
Currently Florida
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22:35
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 613
Commands
In a message dated 11/16/2004 4:00:10 PM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
you're
welcome
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:12:04 -0800 (PST) Susan
Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Thank you for this explanation It really
helps in> understanding your post.> >
Suzy||
(is brevity germane to
'abbreviating'? is it the othr way around?
:)
(anyway, weighg
the MSS evidence available allows the correction/s, below*,
somewhere within the tolerence/s of the KJV and NIV renderings of Gal
4)
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:32:54 -0800 (PST) Susan
Petersen <[EMAIL PR
re:
> > "The[/]se women are [*the] two [*opposite] covenants..
also,
"The[] women [represent] two [opposing] covenants..
--
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:40:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(is brevity germane to
'abbreviating'? is it the othr way around?
:)
(anyway, weighg
Paul
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who's
shaul?
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:05:27 -0800 (PST) Susan
Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
Suzy,
meet Gary, the master of one word replies. MYTH being the predominant one.
The fact that he wrote about 5 sentences this week is cause for celebration!
I think he just may be coming out of his shell, but it is too soon to tell!
Jeff
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From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMA
Maggots ain't kosher Terry!
Try locusts if ya want to eat bugs, they are kosher!
Jeff
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 13:17
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]176 - 203 of 613 Commands
ShieldsFamily wrote:
#19
just submitg your questions, eh?
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:39:01 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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I am not seeking your counsel
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Not any more - just forget it please it's
not important - If you want to be
understood you will make an effort to
communicate ... judyt
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:15:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
just submitg your questions,
eh?
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:39:01 -0500 Judy Taylor <[E
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My view of repentance is to turn from sin. Doesn't the Bible
tell us that unless we repent we will perish? When we turn from sin
we turn toward Christ. Am I being too simplistic? laura
Not too simplistic Laura. You're doing just
fine.
Terry
So why all the "kosher kitchens"? Izzy
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Right you are, Izzy. It simply says don'
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1.Be fruitful and multiply? DEFINATELY
Unfortunately, God took my mate, so someone else has to fill in the gap for me.
At least for now ;) If ever again. Now this may ruffle a few
feathers here, but sex is a gift from God, why not honor Him by being fruitful
with your spouse.
2.W
understood
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:04:25 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..just forget it please it's
not important - If you want to be
understood you will make an effort to
communicate
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(1) He
interprets it himself. Ask him!
(2) So
you could have a stumbling block. Funny how you wanted to know what the command
were and now listen at yourself. Mocking. Stumbling. Why is you heart so
unteachable? Scratch that. Don't answer that question.
--
slade
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Thank you for each and every post, David. Izzy
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands
Dave Hansen wrote:
> Today I received well o
Not to be greedy, but couldn't you do both? :-) Izzy
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Would you prefer me not to reply, but instead use
my time to write some articles to post here from time to time? I have been
considering that such might be a better use of my time right now. I have
two articles on
Well
looky here, Judy is just arguing away, and the other day asked how we got on
the subject of posting the 613 commandments in the first place! Look at
the below message from Oct. 28 Judy. IT WAS YOU!!
Jeff
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Jonathan, I believe that repentance
requires (1) humbly admitting your sin, (2) turning from it to righteousness.
Izzy (PS Ryrie is a liberal translation of the Bible. No wonder you like it.)
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Sent:
Not all men have done this. Christ in a
man makes him into a “real” man (not a Girlie Man!) This may also
be assisted by an encouraging woman (rather than a whiner, complainer,
controller). We’ve all seen both types of men and both types of women. I
am so content when my husband is strong
A quick aside to the listing of the Levitical Laws: Are the following
commands by God considered part of the Levetical Law or God's moral
law?
I get a bit confused as some of the laws I consider to be moral are
included in what is often called the ceremonial list.
1) Be fr
Then why is #185 in there?
Terry
Jeff Powers wrote:
Maggots ain't kosher Terry!
Try locusts if ya want to eat bugs, they are kosher!
Jeff
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 13:17
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Charles Ryrie
is a liberal?
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:13:34 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Ryrie is a liberal
translation of the Bible...
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Izzy, my late wife had a saying and I now have to ask,
is this passed on from mother to daughter"I'm right, and you are wrong, now
I don't want to hear another word!" Is that passed on?
Jeff :)
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Sent
Thank you, Laura for noticing the subtly of
the passage.
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[TruthTalk] 119 - 138 of 613 Commands
jt: In the Oct 28 message below I had just
learned that when you and Slade say Torah you are speaking of something
entirely other than I am when I say Torah - I had been under the
impression that we were all saying the same thing since we all profess to be "in
Christ" and to be honest I s
No I do not agree. I see one covenant from God... Avraham's. I will explain
in a few days.
-- slade
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do not want to receive
The covenant needed to be renewed because the King who made the covenant
died and was resurrected.
-- slade
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Sent: Monday, 15 November, 2004 17.50
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Subject: [TruthTalk] New Cove
Terry,
I don't know what translation Kay is using but try these:
Lev 11:44 I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves and be holy, because
I am holy. Do not make yourselves unclean by any creature that moves about
on the ground. NIV
Lev 11:44 For I [am] the LORD your God: ye shall therefore s
From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>No I do
not agree. I see one covenant from God... Avraham's. I will explainin a few
days. slade
jt: But what about what David Miller writes - wisdom
from the Spirit of God
by way of the apostle Paul - Abraham had two sons
and the child of the fles
-- The
Five Books of Moses (The Schocken Bible Series) -- translated by Everett
Fox
(A great translation of the first five books of
the Bible)
--
Pirkei Avos with insights of the Sfas Emes and other Chassidic Masters --
anthologized by R. Yosef Stern
(A great translation and discu
From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The
covenant needed to be renewed because the King who made the covenant died and
was resurrected. -- slade
jt: Don't think so Slade. Covenants require a
death and Covenant necessitates Blood (Hebrews 9:16) Jesus is
mediator of a New Covenant (He
11/16, DavidM:
>Romans 7..is..describing..a person
>who has not yet been set free through Jesus
Christ.
^^
myth
(some solemn sagacity servin' St. Suzy)
acc to
King James, the Ap. Paul's 'brethren', below, are engaged perhaps
'even married..to him who is
myth
[E.g., (DavidM and)
you argue/d from a faulty biblical text that 'two women are two covenants';
now you are revolvg the same covenants around the/ir
sons]
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:48:58 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..David Miller writes [wisdom from the Spiri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles
Ryrie is a liberal?
=
According to my way of thinking he is.
Terry
understood:)
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:59:28 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Ryrie
is a liberal?
=According
to my way of thinking he is.Terry
Jeff Powers wrote:
Terry,
I don't know what translation Kay is using but try these:
Lev 11:44 I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves and be holy,
because I am holy. Do not make yourselves unclean by any creature that
moves about on the ground. NIV
Lev 11:44 For I [am] the LORD your God: y
This
is Slade's understanding of the following passage. Please understand the
bracketed passages are Slade's interpretation.
Therefore there is now no condemnation for
those who are in Christ Jesus.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ
Jesus [Torah] has set you free from the
Ever since Eve. J
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Behalf Of Jeff Powers
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004
6:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Gender
differences
Izzy, my late wife had a saying and I now have to ask, is
this passe
a/nothr good reason
to stik with King James?:)
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:03:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
understood:)
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:59:28 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Ryrie
is
thought so!
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21:21
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Gender
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Ever since Eve.
J
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I wish I had the way with words that you do!
For everyone else, I have seen a verse thrown at Slade
and he responds verbally just as quick and in even more detail! Not that this
needs anything more. Love it. But then thats why I like studying
with you anyway!
Jeff
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Sometimes a little tongue-in-cheek-humor heps with
the cipherin' don't it?
Jes call me Po' ol Jeff!
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 20:07
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]176 - 203 of 613
Commands
> Jeff
ï
David,
From the beginning of Godâs creation God wanted nothing
more than a personal relationship with man. But, man chose not to have a
relationship with God. During the rise of civilization, which is told in the
opening chapters of Genesis, we see that although there were a few Godly men,
ï
jt: So Jeff what you are really saying is that when it
says "NEW" Covenant and Better Promises in the book of Hebrews what it really
means is same Ole, same Ole just "Reworked and Revised; and where we
see "OBSOLETE and DYING" this is not so either. IOW We still get
to walk after the flesh
ï
1. One OT issue to
reconsider perhaps--sparing you the current customary comment 'myth' for now--is
that while God leads Moses, God in essence leads Israel (back then); Moses, acc
to his own writg, is basically a follower of God, not the leader of
Israel in the independent sense depictd, be
You are clearly a comlusive/complusive -- nto able to ignore a single point or narrow a discussion to one or two point. No concern for those who might consider reading the response. You seem to think you might "win" because of many words. My response is in CAPS. John
In a message da
David Miller wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote:
Today I received well over a hundred TT posts. Interestingly, a TTer
who once suggested we limit our daily posts to 8, made nearly a
quarter (28) of them today! ;-)
You are right, Dave. I need to back off.
DAVEH: Not at all, DavidM. I'm glad to se
In a message dated 11/17/2004 7:23:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
>David, why in the world can you not simply say,
>"I think this is wrong?" I don't understand why
>you persist on couching the views of others,
>views you disagree with, in complete opposition
In a message dated 11/17/2004 7:31:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Miller wrote:
>>Come to think of it, Jesus was not an author. :-)
John wrote:
>Actually, He is the author of the book of
>Revelation, is He not?
I guess I can see how you might argue this from the fi
In a message dated 11/17/2004 11:57:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My view of repentance is to turn from sin. Doesn't the Bible tell us that unless we repent we will perish? When we turn from sin we turn toward Christ. Am I being too simplistic? laura
Actually, repe
DAVEH: It is getting pretty bad when I resort to responding to my own
posts...
My aim is to agitate and disturb people. I'm not selling bread, I'm
selling
yeast. -Miguel de Unamuno, writer and philosopher (1864-1936)
Dave Hansen wrote:
David Miller wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote
In a message dated 11/17/2004 1:58:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Suzy,
meet Gary, the master of one word replies. MYTH being the predominant one.
The fact that he wrote about 5 sentences this week is cause for celebration!
I think he just may be coming out of his shell,
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