Re: [Vo]:Re: Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project

2015-12-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > While true of normal solar cells, I seem to recall that there are also high > efficiency cells designed to be used with solar concentrators. I'm > guessing that > these will also function at boiling water temperatures. Is this not the > case? > Yes, I recall

Re: [Vo]:Re: Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project

2015-12-31 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jed: "Suppose that in the 1990s someone had put a lot of money into solar CSP technology. The cost might have fallen quickly and perhaps today it would be cheaper than PV or wind" Wrong, Ivanpah uses steam drum boiler technology and steam turbine technology and Home Depot flat mirror technology

Re: [Vo]:Re: Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project

2015-12-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Note: The ASME document may not describe the coating used at Ivanpah. However, I read an article about the glass there some time ago that said it has some similar coating. It resembles Teflon. Water and dust do not easily adhere to it; they blow right off again. I wish they would invent something

Re: [Vo]:Re: Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project

2015-12-31 Thread ChemE Stewart
Interesting that Ivanpah is a high wind area with land sailing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Lake Flat mirrors catch a lot more wind than a low profile trough, like a sail. I guess without the mirror coating the system would be be performing even worse than 40% below design...

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > If he actually has excess heat from time to time, why would he build a > financial scam? > > 1) The excess heat is unreliable. He cannot show it on demand > > 2) Rossi does not understand the gain mechanism > The people at IH are aware of

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > To invest in Rossi, one would have to bet that Mills’ IP can be > circumvented . . . > To reiterate, you do not need to circumvent a patent. You can invent something that extends it. The person licensing your patent must also license the basic patent.

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Bob Cook
It would seem relatively simple with both HEAT and ELECTRICITY produced by Rossi’s E-Cat X to make a jet engine. Intake air compressed to higher pressures and temperatures with an electrically powered turbine/fan much like those used in large jets today could be adapted readily. This may be

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Bob Cook
For what its worth, I agree with the implication David has made relative to fast protons or alphas. My experience is that any fast charged particles creates x-rays which would be observed and correlated with the ejection of electrons from the inner electron shells of atoms. Also, if there are

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Bob, Your experience in the nuclear energy sector is no doubt relevant here. On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Bob Cook wrote: My experience is that any fast charged particles creates x-rays which would > be observed and correlated with the ejection of electrons from

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- Good, and I mean GOOD, engineering makes an item to run at least 2 x the design lifetime. This is not very common in commercial consumer applications. It is more come in industrial applications and most common in defense applications. Some cars have warranties that approach this

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Bob Cook
Adrian-- I did not read Jones the way you have. He has talked about “miracles” in the past which merely indicate real events that are not explained well by theory. I trust he will clarify what he intends to say. Bob Cook From: a.ashfield Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 12:09 PM To:

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Bob Cook
I doubt that black hole physics is necessary. I do think that the understanding of coherent systems and spin coupling to distribute small quanta of energy will be. Bob Cook From: Frank Znidarsic Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:59 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Whopper of

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook wrote: > Good, and I mean GOOD, engineering makes an item to run at least 2 x the > design lifetime. This is not very common in commercial consumer > applications. > I do not see what the fuel load has to do with the product lifetime. The fuel reportedly has

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Plus, there is way too much disinformation floating around about how much > and to whom. We simply do not know how much actually went to IH as > opposed to Cherokee. > Yeah, I sure don't know. Do you? Have you read the correspondence between Rossi, IH,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > In point of fact, I have maintained from the start that Rossi has seen > excess heat, but that he is building a financial scam on top of an energy > anomaly that goes back to Piantelli and Mills. > If he actually has excess heat from time to time, why

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- As a logical deduction from your apparent skepticism, you must conclude that the $70 Million invested in Industrial Heat by two different investors is wasted; and that Rossi has somehow fooled those investors. I do not think you are connecting the dots very well. You seem to get to

RE: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook * As a logical deduction from your apparent skepticism, you must conclude that the $70 Million invested in Industrial Heat by two different investors is wasted; and that Rossi has somehow fooled those investors. Don’t be naïve, Bob. Bernie Madoff fooled sophisticated

RE: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell * Let me put it this way. A few years ago you and others were predicting that Rossi would soon be found out as a fraud, and he would disappear. Nonsense. Rossi admitted his many tax and fraud crimes in Italy from the start - and there was no prediction that he would

RE: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell Ø In point of fact, I have maintained from the start that Rossi has seen excess heat, but that he is building a financial scam on top of an energy anomaly that goes back to Piantelli and Mills. If he actually has excess heat from time to time, why would he build a

Re: [Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Thu, 24 Dec 2015 09:50:38 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Robin-- > >What is an approximate date on the archive you identified? I can't recall the date of my first mention of the concept, but here are the particulars of a later message in which I refer to the earlier one:-

[Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-24 Thread Bob Cook
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:39 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together In reply to Bob Cook's message of Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:13:39 -0800: Hi, [snip] A Li 2 molecule was what I was thinking about

Re: [Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon

2015-12-23 Thread Axil Axil
If you get science by the pockets, their hearts and minds will follow. On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Bob Cook wrote: > Peter and Alain-- > > I agree that Kuhn would have a field day. However, I do not think he > would agree with Rossi apparent theory that

RE: [Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook The stability of the H(-1) ion may be quite stable in a strong magnetic field which would support the formation and stability of paired electrons. Ostensibly this ion would have a net negative charge which should tend to counteract the formation of smaller diameter ions, due

[Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon

2015-12-23 Thread Bob Cook
Peter and Alain-- I agree that Kuhn would have a field day. However, I do not think he would agree with Rossi apparent theory that commercializing a new technology will lead to better research and behavior of scientists. We will see. Bob Cook From: Peter Gluck Sent: Wednesday, December 23,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:13:39 -0800: Hi, [snip] >A Li 2 molecule was what I was thinking about. I doubt there is much data >for such a reaction. Also keep in mind that I am not considering that the >proton reacts. That's the problem. You are not considering

[Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-23 Thread Bob Cook
parameters that can affect the LENR process. Some of those he had in mind were probably resonant conditions. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act

Re: [Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon

2015-12-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: If you get science by the pockets, their hearts and minds will follow. > Or as Stan Szpak put it, scientists believe whatever you pay them to believe. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon

2015-12-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
There is a discussion on evolutionist website agains cold fusion (citing seagull) https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/23/cold-fusion-back-in-the-spotlight-courtesy-of-templeton-2/#comment-1280005 It is sad to see the anti-creatonist fall int that academic meme, and ridicule Science

Re: [Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:43:39 -0800: Hi, [snip] >However, If it could act like a muon, then it would seem possible that a >molecular form of Li(+3)-Li(+3) with 5 electrons and a H(-1) binding it >together may occur. In this case the H(-1) could cause a close

Re: [Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon

2015-12-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
2015-12-23 21:03 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell : > > Or as Stan Szpak put it, scientists believe whatever you pay them to > believe. > This quote is key to understanding modern science, however I thinks it was much different before (except maybe in imperial china). For long the

RE: [Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon

2015-12-23 Thread Chris Zell
From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:33 PM To: Vortex List <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon 2015-12-23 21:03 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@

Re: [Vo]:Re: Essay: The cold fusion horizon

2015-12-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: > For long the scientists have a real job, like tax officer (Lavoisir), > patent officer (Einstein), Engineer and painter (Da vinci), industrialists > (Wright brothers, Lumière brothers),.. > The scientists did not have to please their peers to eat,

[Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-22 Thread Bob Cook
Bob Higgins-- I do not see how the Hydrogen anion H(-1) can act like a muon. It is a composite of a proton and two electrons in a cloud around the + charge—the proton. It would seem to act as a negative point charge like a muon is. As we know paired electrons happen readily. It may be

[Vo]:Re: Piantelli's group gets its act together

2015-12-22 Thread Bob Cook
RE: [Vo]:Piantelli's group gets its act togetherJones-- The stability of the H(-1) ion may be quite stable in a strong magnetic field which would support the formation and stability of paired electrons. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:01 AM To:

RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-19 Thread Roarty, Francis X
multiple stages with variable spacing could enhance the changes measured. Fran -Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X (US) Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 7:42 AM To: 'vortex-l@eskimo.com' <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement Bob yo

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Let's LENR contribute to the Energy revolution, defining LENR inteligence, info

2015-12-18 Thread Terry Blanton
Reads fine, Peter. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Peter Gluck" To: Subject: [Vo]:Let's LENR contribute to the Energy revolution, defining LENR inteligence, info Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2015 12:42 PM Thinking about energy

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Let's LENR contribute to the Energy revolution, defining LENR inteligence, info

2015-12-18 Thread Peter Gluck
thanks my friend! peter On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Reads fine, Peter. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Peter Gluck" > To: > Subject: [Vo]:Let's LENR contribute to

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-16 Thread Bob Cook
-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement Bob you said the light entering the field would regain its original characteristics upon exiting - which I agree with but it does suggest some interesting experiments of a different nature, shaped and nested fields

Re: [Vo]:Re: N. Y. Times article comment

2015-12-15 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
He's looking at this as if it were a black-and-white issue. That he's either right and they are wrong or they are wrong and he's right. I think there is a reasonable probability that climate change is being caused by fossil feels. I think there is also a pretty good possibility that fossil

Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:51 PM, wrote: If free electrons had a spin magnetic moment, then I would expect this to > also > happen for cyclotron radiation. > > If it does, then I'm obviously wrong about electron intrinsic spin. > It would be interesting to know about whether

Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:02:40 -0800: Hi, [snip] > > >Where does the photon get its angular momentum, when it and its twin appear >from positron-electron enillalation? Both have opposite spins, so the net is zero. > >I am not familiar with what line splitting the

RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-15 Thread Roarty, Francis X
] Fran -Original Message- From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 10:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement Robin-- My comment was intended to apply to the local point in space that the light

Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-15 Thread John Berry
hmmm I wonder... If spin is a spin of the electrons field, then maybe electrons are like earth moon, and for each revolution around the center, they revolve once so as to always show the same side to the nucleus. This way each orbit would produce one revolution. And it would mean spin only

[Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-15 Thread Bob Cook
14, 2015 8:39 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field Strange, I pasted the link, but then the email accidentally sent prematurely without the link: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/126986/where-does-the-electron-get-its

RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-15 Thread Roarty, Francis X
ply the effect. Fran -Original Message- From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:04 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement That sounds like a good experiment. Bob Cook -Original Mes

Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-14 Thread John Berry
pear from positron-electron enillalation? > > I am not familiar with what line splitting the cyclotron frequency is. > > Bob Cook > > -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:43 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re:

Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:29:26 -0800: Hi, [snip] >IMO free electrons have no magnetic moment, because they have no "spin", >which >is not an intrinsic property of the electron, but rather a direct >consequence of >being bound to an atom. > >Now I would

[Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-14 Thread Bob Cook
Robin-- You stated: IMO free electrons have no magnetic moment, because they have no "spin", which is not an intrinsic property of the electron, but rather a direct consequence of being bound to an atom. Now I would say that is a departure from conventional thinking. Can you further

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-14 Thread Bob Cook
effected by the magnetic field IMHO. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement In reply to Bob Cook's message of Thu, 3 Dec 2015 17:35:08 -0800: Hi

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:21:38 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Light entering the intense magnetic field would regain its original >characteristic upon exiting the field. However, if your eyes were also in >the magnetic field they would sense the changes effected by the

Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-14 Thread John Berry
I am not familiar with what line splitting the cyclotron frequency is. >> >> Bob Cook >> >> -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:43 PM >> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-14 Thread Bob Cook
That sounds like a good experiment. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:50 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement In reply to Bob Cook's message of Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:21:38 -0800

[Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-14 Thread Bob Cook
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field In reply to Bob Cook's message of Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:29:26 -0800: Hi, [snip] IMO free electrons have no magnetic moment, because they have no "spin", which is not an intrinsi

Re: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic moment .vs motion as source of magnetic field

2015-12-14 Thread John Berry
>> appear from positron-electron enillalation? >>> >>> I am not familiar with what line splitting the cyclotron frequency is. >>> >>> Bob Cook >>> >>> -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com >>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015

[Vo]:Re: N. Y. Times article comment

2015-12-14 Thread Bob Cook
higgins gets a thumbs up from me. Bob Cook From: Bob Higgins Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:04 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:N. Y. Times article comment For fear of being branded a card carrying republican, I hate to comment on such topics. I believe the "global warming

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Thu, 3 Dec 2015 17:35:08 -0800: Hi, [snip] >My thought was that a strong magnetic field may disrupt the oscillating nature >of the light—disturbance—as it passes through the magnetic field, changing its >frequency and or intensity and direction of propagation.

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-12-13 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3vqlIGxvk The Water Crystal At 34:00 into this video show, Mark LeClair, the president and driving force behind Nanospire begins his presentation describing the production of fusion using cavitation. I contend that insight can be gleaned from the work, ideas and

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-12-13 Thread Axil Axil
Brian Ahern said: *This is a four year old report of unsubstantiated ramblings. Why do you give it any credence as nothing has developedin the 4 year hiatus.It is a disservice to assign credit to this material.* LeClair is considered by most of the old school LENR advocates as at best an

[Vo]:Re: CMNS: LENR INFO AND DEFENDING MY MEMES

2015-12-11 Thread Ludwik Kowalski
1) Yes indeed. 2) See Comment #1, at http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2015/12/10/why-trust-a-theory-physicists-and-philosophers-debate-synopsis/?utm_source=feedburner_medium=email_campaign=Feed%3A+ScienceblogsPhysicalScience+%28ScienceBlogs+Channel+%3A+Physical+Science%29 from Peter's

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: LENR INFO AND DEFENDING MY MEMES

2015-12-11 Thread Axil Axil
http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/rsi/86/8/10.1063/1.4928109 Holmlid's paper discribing how he detected pions which focuses on the equipment used. The paper was peer reviewed by the *Review of Scientific Instruments.* *If the findings do not fit into theory, just ignore it.* On Fri,

[Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-12-10 Thread Bob Cook
Jones stated in response to Eric: <<>> From: Eric Walker: <<>> Now, I am even further inclined to part with conventional wisdom. As Hatt has recently suggested, the quark model is merely a good empirical model of protons and neutrons, and is not consistent with all observations of

[Vo]:Re: Stephen Wolfram musing on what spacetime really is

2015-12-08 Thread Random Thoughts
Hmm, I guess the vortex list can't handle sending as HTML since the links seem to be gone. Anyhow, here they are: http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2015/12/what-is-spacetime-really https://www.wolframscience.com -- Adrian

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-12-05 Thread Axil Axil
How to build a Rossi powder pretreatment processor. I copied this design from Ken Shoulders. Firstly, the spark can be generated at the tip of a sharply pointed electrode when a large negative charge (2-10 kv) is applied. A dielectric plate (preferably fused quartz or alumina, typically 0.0254

[Vo]:Re: Conservation of miracles

2015-12-04 Thread Bob Cook
If shock waves initiate a reaction how does one control such a reaction. It seems to suggest a rapid chain reaction would happen. Potentially the shock would be confined to a nano region of the fuel based on the particle size and shape. However it seems even a nano chain reaction might cause

Re: [Vo]:Re: Conservation of miracles

2015-12-04 Thread David L. Roberson
I believe that brillouin uses a block of nickel loaded with hydrogen instead of powder. As long as the density of the active regions is not too great,a critical mass is not available. Their website shows a shockwave traveling through the material which leads to the generation of neutrons.This

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-03 Thread Bob Cook
What happens to a photon in a strong magnetic field is solved by classical (Maxwell,s) theory I believe. Axil’s ENP’s may be nothing more that strong magnetic lines of force. Such lines of force may be enhanced by ferromagnetic material and/or directed in certain directions in Rossi’s

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-03 Thread Bob Cook
Fran-- Thanks for that nice description of the effects of 5D space. Do you have a reference to Calvert’s ideas? Does the theory have any parameter(s) associated with the 5th dimension that are akin to those in 4D space-time? It seems that 5th D may have a metric like dB/dz where B is the

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-03 Thread Bob Higgins
I think the statement, "What happens to a photon in a strong magnetic field is solved by classical (Maxwell,s) theory I believe." is probably only correct only in the part that you believe it. No one really knows what a photon is (try to find some good scholarly articles on what a photon IS), so

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-03 Thread Bob Cook
: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement I think the statement, "What happens to a photon in a strong magnetic field is solved by classical (Maxwell,s) theory I believe." is probably only correct only in the part that you believe it. No one really knows what a photon is (t

[Vo]:Re: Story on climate crisis would need some comments

2015-12-03 Thread Bob Cook
Bob-- Good comments. Your comment about 2-body systems and all the rest, in other words many-body systems, is right on. In addition, if physicists believe in wave functions that describe coherent systems with many bodies and apparent action at a distance across the coherent system, then

[Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-12-02 Thread Bob Cook
What is being discussed seems to reflect what might happen in a small system with a new particle being introduced to that system with significant kinetic energy. What happens in a coherent system (with many particles with their mass, charge and spin) that hosts the introduction of a new

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-02 Thread Axil Axil
Hank Mills December 29th, 2013 at 2:34 PM Dear Andrea, The information you are sharing is facinating. While we wait for the full reports, it gives us something to think upon. 1 – If the mouse over stimulates the cat so it runs around in circles continually, not going back to sleep, does the cat

[Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-02 Thread Bob Cook
Dave-- The number 16 may come from the Artists rendition of a reactor. I could find no specific Rossi statement regarding the picture included in the E-Cat World item identified by Axil as the basis for his comment. Axil’s interpretations of what he reads and sees in various items can make

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-02 Thread David Roberson
;vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 5:52 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement Hank Mills December 29th, 2013 at 2:34 PM Dear Andrea, The information you are sharing is facinating. While we wait for the full reports, it gives us something to think upon. 1 –

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-02 Thread Ludwik Kowalski
d we use? The patent seems to > be the best indication of his actual intentions. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 5:52 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement

2015-12-02 Thread Axil Axil
> > > > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 5:52 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR reactors need magnetic confinement > > Hank Mills > December 29th, 2013 at

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Press Release - ​INDEPENDENT TECHNICAL VALIDATION REPORT COMPLETED ON BRILLOUIN

2015-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Teslaalset wrote: > Mr. Halem and mr. Guillemin both are members of lenr-invest, which to me > brings doubts regarding independent evaluation, see > lenr-invest.com/index.php/about-us/management > Thanks for finding him. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-12-01 Thread Axil Axil
LENR reactors need magnetic confinement In my opinion, the fundamental nature of the Rossi effect is based on magnetism. The catalytic particle that produces the reaction is magnetic in nature. This particle is produced by heat pumping and EMF stimulation. The nature of this Exotic Neutral

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Press Release - ​INDEPENDENT TECHNICAL VALIDATION REPORT COMPLETED ON BRILLOUIN

2015-12-01 Thread Teslaalset
Mr. Halem and mr. Guillemin both are members of lenr-invest, which to me brings doubts regarding independent evaluation, see lenr-invest.com/index.php/about-us/management On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Here is a vague press release from Brillouin.

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-11-29 Thread Axil Axil
There seems to be two broad schools of thought in LENR: those who believe that LENR is catalytic and those who don’t. Peter has educated me in the catalytic paradigm and I now join him in his thinking on nuclear catalysis. Ed Storms is not in the catalytic school of thought. It seems to me that

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-11-29 Thread Axil Axil
There seems to be two broad schools of thought in LENR: those who believe that LENR is catalytic and those who don’t. Peter has educated me in the catalytic paradigm and I now join him in his thinking on nuclear catalysis. Ed Storms is not in the catalytic school of thought. It seems to me that

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-11-28 Thread Axil Axil
*Magnetic monopole beam * One of the amazing revelations that has come out of nanoplasmonic research and experimentation is the explanation of how the “dark mode” polariton soliton can produce a monopole magnetic beam. This amazing revelation is not theory; it is based on experimental results.

[Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-28 Thread Bob Cook
Robin and Eric-- Electron screening is will known to increase fusion and other nuclear reactions involving electric and magnetic forces. The muon induced fusion of H is a good example. However, in addition to electron screening (which merely changes the electric field near a nucleus)

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-11-27 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi understands that his invention is based on catalysis. That is the reason why Rossi named his invention “The Energy Catalyzer” (also called E-Cat) (6). In order to understand how Rossi’s invention works, it is important to understand the nature of catalysis as supported by nanoparticles.

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-11-27 Thread Axil Axil
What I am trying to accomplish is to connect those amazing particle tracks that you reference in your work starting from simple conceptual building blocks that are universally accepted in science in a step by step methodology. These most basic concepts start with nanoplasmonics and deal with the

[Vo]:Re: CMNS: JCF-16 subjective preview, notes info for Nov 26, 2015

2015-11-26 Thread Ludwik Kowalski
P.S. Wikipedia's definition (in blue below) is consistent with what I remember. A catalyst is a substance that speeds up a chemical reaction, but is not consumed by the reaction; hence a catalyst can be recovered chemically unchanged at the end of the reaction it has been used to speed up, or

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s engineer: ‘I have seen things you people wouldn’t believe’

2015-11-24 Thread Axil Axil
According to my theory that LENR is driven by light, in the E-Cat X Rossi is leaving the infrared domain and entering into the visible and UV light wavelengths. This is the result of the higher temperatures that this new reactor type operate at. On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Eric Walker

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s engineer: ‘I have seen things you people wouldn’t believe’

2015-11-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Mats Lewan wrote: Interview with Rossi’s closest technician and engineer since 2012, Fulvio > Fabiani: > > http://animpossibleinvention.com/2015/11/25/rossis-engineer-i-have-seen-things-you-people-wouldnt-believe/ > The sentence in the title

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
- > From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:46 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter? > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> > wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: Still want to know what is not logical in the 'electrical universe'. I know > I am in over my paygrade so I am Ok to take a hit or two. Just curious why > the idea has not become more accepted. So let me have it.:) >

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-19 Thread David Roberson
015 10:46 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter? On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: Still want to know what is not logical in the 'electrical universe'. I know I am in over my paygrade so I am Ok to take a hit or

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-18 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: I have been hearing about the 'electrical universe' since long time. Hannes > Alfven was a Swedish scientist and an entertaining person and this > 'gravity' is so not intuitive to me. > There's an interesting

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-18 Thread Lennart Thornros
You are correct Eric. He was a maverick with humor and self irony. I think we need many of that kind. Still want to know what is not logical in the 'electrical universe'. I know I am in over my paygrade so I am Ok to take a hit or two. Just curious why the idea has not become more accepted. So let

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-17 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:40 AM, wrote: > > yes, but energy = force * distance. If the distance is zero, then so it the >> energy. >> > > The distance is large, as the magnet is accelerated along an arc as the > earth rotates. > Even if this is true, it's probably

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-17 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:40 AM, wrote: yes, but energy = force * distance. If the distance is zero, then so it the > energy. > The distance is large, as the magnet is accelerated along an arc as the earth rotates. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-17 Thread Lennart Thornros
I have been reading this tread for a while. No, I understand just pieces here and there. Darn to theoretical for me. However, I am interested (no, not enough to be educated:) and once I got a degree in electronics, so I like when things can be explained by electrical and magnetic fields. At least

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:54:59 -0600: Hi, [snip] >If you take away the magnet, work would be done on the ferromagnetic weight as >it is accelerated to the ground. It is the magnet that provides an equal >amount of "work" to keep this from happening. It doesn't

Re: [Vo]:Re: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

2015-11-17 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:31 PM, wrote: It doesn't actually perform any *work* to keep it from happening, it > provides an > opposing *force*. Neither the magnet nor gravity do any work, since there > is no > component of the motion vector that is *parallel* to the force

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Bob Higgins
The concept of the fractional charge quarks as constituents of matter is a completely made-up story/hypothesis. Has anyone ever measured an elementary particle with a charge other than an integer multiple of e? Hotson proposes that because of this the electron IS the one and only fundamental

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Eric Walker
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:28, Stephen Cooke wrote: > > With spin at least I suppose the current numbering system has the advantage > of easily distinguishing fermions and Bosons. If we reindexed spin to be only integer multiples, fermions would have odd spin and

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