Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-05-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Kevin, I see no evidence in the link for the actual existence of a BEC forming between hydrons at room temperature. People have proposed but not demonstrated. Ed Storms On May 27, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Th

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-05-27 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 27, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Kevin, I see no evidence in the link for the actual existence of a BEC forming between hydrons at room temperature. People have proposed but not demonstrated. Ed Storms ***T

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-05-27 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 27, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: The essential question is, Does a BEC form in any material? ***Yes, according to the 2 links I posted. Kevin, did you actually read this paper ( http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 27, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Kevin, did you actually read this paper ( http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1261v1.pdf)? ***I'm still making my way through it. It is not one of the links I posted. It i

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
to it.:-) I hope this is clear. -Mark From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:24 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... On May 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: To which Ed answered

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
? Even if the electrode hasn’t even been immersed in the electrolyte yet (if we’re talking electrolytic type experiments); or before hydrogen gas is introduced if we’re dealing with a NiH system? I don’t think so… -Mark From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, May 1

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
and monatomic states –forming the energy sink while opposing the motion of one state through the sink much more than the other encouraging disassociation and subsequent photon emission as the hydrotron reforms. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
de of the dislocation immediately after it forms and before anything happens to diffuse into them… I think I prefaced my questions to focus on that situation. Can we agree that we are dealing with a vacuum, at least initially? -Mark Iverson From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netco

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
- From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Tue, May 28, 2013 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... Mark, when the gap initially forms, nothing is present. It is a void, a space without substance, a vacuum if you wish. However, it contains strong negative

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
anism determines the resistive parameter? If a small collection of atoms behaves like a superconductor then that would explain why the field generated by tiny Axil antennas can become of great magnitude. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l Cc: Edmund Storms Sent

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
the protons in the gap is their repulsion with the lattice nuclei and what primarily keeps electrons in the gap is their repulsion with the electron shells around the lattice nuclei? harry On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Dave, you are adding ideas that have no

Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design. You are right, the powder must make good thermal contact with the wall for the nuclear reaction to be controlled by temperature. Just how Rossi makes this happen is unknown. Nevertheless, most of the active nickel must be attached to the

Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Dennis, I do not believe a process of continuous creation and destruction of sites would be stable and would result in stable production of energy, The creation and destruction processes are independent of each other. Just by chance, one would get the upper hand over the other, resulting in

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
inous colloid. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design. You are right, the powder must make

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
earlier ecat and actually be part of the NAE formation? Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
the black box between wall socket and the eCat. Arnaud From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
ket and the eCat. Arnaud From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this m

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
be somewhere there. EM stimulation could enhance the rate of the reaction. That’s not a fact I know. From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:14 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Amaud, we

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
a vigorous reaction. Again you say this with great certainty. Have you actually tried this idea and does it work? If so, please publish the results. Ed Storms On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Axil, you make your statements with great certainty. Have you ever

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
OK, can anyone from DGT verify that potassium is required to make Ni nuclear active? If so, what chemical form is used? Ed Storms On May 29, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote: DGT has already stated that they use potassium. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: On

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Arnaud Kodeck > wrote: Ed, I think you forget to add the EM stimulation controlled by the black box between wall socket and the eCat. Arnaud From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc:

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
dd the EM stimulation controlled by the black box between wall socket and the eCat. Arnaud From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I wou

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
regardless of your conclusion. Second, why do you think the NAE is not stable at the temperatures used by Rossi? Ed Storms On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: On May 29, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Fixed NAE theory cannot explain the Cause of the meltdown of the

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Mark, according to my understanding, ANY material can be made nuclear active as long as H+ can dissolve in the material. The challenge is to know what change has to occur too create the NAE. Each theory suggests a different change. Simply making alloys is a waste of time unless this additi

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Harry, I suggest you consult the literature. Addition of Cu LOWERS the mp of Ni. Ni and Cu form a continuous soild solution. The melting point is close to being linear between 1083° and 1453°, the mp of Ni. Ed Storms On May 29, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-30 Thread Edmund Storms
posts but perhaps I just don't understand your model. Anyway, I think the coulomb barrier problem is fundamentally more important then the missing gamma issue, in the sense that a cogent solution to the first problem will yield a cogent solution to the second problem. harry On Wed, May

Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Storms On May 29, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Rossi has done something to the Ni powder that is very stable and not affected by high temperature. This fact alone greatly reduces the possibilities to anyone familiar with the

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-30 Thread Edmund Storms
No Alan, no relationship exist between my model and the one proposed by Peter. You need to read the two ideas more carefully. I wish a relationship existed, but sadly it does not. The cluster Peter proposes to form does not occur in the same place in the material as the Hydroton, it does n

Re: [Vo]:Gibbs: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn't!

2013-05-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Mark, why don't you ask and quote some who actually understand cold fusion, like myself? I realize you consider me a believer. However, have you considered why I have this belief? It is not based on my imagination or on a pathology. It is based on the fact that I have read and studied all o

Re: [Vo]:Gibbs: Rossi's A Fraud! No, He's Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn't!

2013-05-30 Thread Edmund Storms
wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Mark, why don't you ask and quote some who actually understand cold fusion, like myself? Well, Ed, at least he quoted Elforsk. That's progress! The people Elforsk do not understand cold fusion but they do understand electricity, IR cameras, and the S

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-30 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree Dave, I have been providing this explanation for several years without any effect. I'm glad you are adding your voice. The critical point at which the temperature must be reduced depends on the degree of thermal contact between the source of energy (the Ni powder) and the sink (The

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Harry, imagine balls held in line by springs. If the end ball is pull away with a force and let go, a resonance wave will pass down the line. Each ball will alternately move away

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
AM, Mark Gibbs wrote: What is a Hydroton? I googled the term and all I could find were references to a clay-based plant growing medium much prized by marijuana growers ... [mg] On Thursday, May 30, 2013, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Harry

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 31, 2013, at 4:40 AM, Rob Dingemans wrote: Hi, On 30-5-2013 22:48, Edmund Storms wrote: I agree Dave, I have been providing this explanation for several years without any effect. I'm glad you are adding your voice. The critical point at which the temperature must be reduced de

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
account for it. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 9:11 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Cude, please admit to the obvious. The LENR effect has positive feedback. Increased temperature causes increased power generation. This is an established fact. Of course, if as you believe, CF is not real, than this statement is irrelevant to you and any discussion is a waste of time. Ed

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
ion that would make the proton appear like a neutron for some fraction of the time? (A naive guess on my part I am sure.) Can you provide additional insight into your proposition? Regards, Bob Higgins On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: As this mass-energy is reduced,

Re: [Vo]:On deception

2013-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Mark, you quoted Siegel as saying that CF violated physics because it did not act like hot fusion. Carat simply pointed out that CF was not like hot fusion and this comparison was not valid. She simply made a statement of belief, not a proof. Siegel also made a statement of belief, not a p

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-01 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, please do not confuse hot fusion with cold fusion. The difference is in the products. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and energetic radiation. Hot fusion produce neutrons and radiation because the conditions require the nuclear product to fragment. This fragmentation does not

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-01 Thread Edmund Storms
trons when the same amount of energy is released. The term LENR is used to only describe cold fusion. It was not created for it to be applied to hot fusion. On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms Jones, please do not confuse hot fusion

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-01 Thread Edmund Storms
assisted fusion "warm fusion". On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: We are taking about two different phenomenon of nature. Trying to use the same concepts and words to describe both results in confusion. Those of us who have studied cold fusion for the last 23 years

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-01 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms We are taking about two different phenomenon of nature. Trying to use the same concepts and words to describe both results in confusion. Those of us who have studied cold fusion for the last 23

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms > wrote: Harry, imagine balls held in line by springs. If the end ball is pull a

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
OK, Jones, let me try to summarize what you propose. You believe CF is like the Mills effect even though CF is known to produce nuclear products and the Mills effect does not. You believe that Rossi made the Ni-H2 system create energy using the Mills effect while everyone else who explored

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed is correct. Tritium can not be detected by an ordinary detector because the beta is too weak. Unless the required special detector is used, tritium would be totally missed no matter how much is present. That is why tritium is dangerous. Nevertheless, modern methods can detect tritium

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, you are simply wrong. I have worked with tritium and I know how it behaves. It cannot be detected using its Bremsstrahlund unless a huge amount is present because this radiation is produced at only a small fraction of the beta and is absorbed very quickly by only a small amount of ma

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Jones Beene wrote: From: Edmund Storms OK, Jones, let me try to summarize what you propose You believe CF is like the Mills effect even though CF is known to produce nuclear products and the Mills effect does not. Not even

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
11:49 AM, Jones Beene wrote: From: Edmund Storms Jones, you are simply wrong. I have worked with tritium and I know how it behaves. You apparently have not worked with tritium very intuitively, if you cannot understand this simple video. It cannot be detected using its Bremsstrahlund

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
extrapolating this demonstation to conditions that have no relevance to the demonstration. I hope this is clear and we can go on to other subjects. Ed Storms On Jun 2, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jones Beene wrote: From: Edmund Storms Jones, you are simply wrong. I have worked with tritium and I

Re: [Vo]:Adding Energy to get Energy

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, I agree with your conclusion about Rossi. However, tritium is not his only problem. His patent will probably not reveal how the Ni can be treated to make it active. Simply adding Ni62 is obviously not the only thing he does to the Ni. Without the ability to replicate the patent by a

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

2013-06-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Dave, I agree. You have described the process very well. The only thing missing from your model is the thermal contact between the source, (Ni) and the sink (the mass of the E-cat). The better the thermal contact, the longer the temperature can remain high while control is maintained and t

Re: [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2013-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
I suggest you all read "Quantum Weirdness? It's all in your mind" In Scientific American, June 2013, page 47. According to the author, QM has been made complex and increasingly out of contact with reality. The success in fitting behavior has been used to justify increasingly complex mathe

Re: [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2013-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Axil, you show that you have no understanding of the second law. The laws of thermodynamics simply define how energy must flow in a system and how the system must behave as a result of the energy. The laws do not address the source. In the case of Rossi, he has an obvious source that cannot

Re: [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2013-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
single quantum of energy. Here is how two entangled particles share a single quantum of energy You will notice that the each particle gets a part of the FREQUENCY of the quantum based on the coupling constant. See figures 3 and 4. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Axil

Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4

2013-06-04 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree, the contribution by Cude has long since lost its value. His issues have been discussed and answered several times. He is never going to accept the basic claims, so why bother. Nevertheless, his response is answered and the the answer creates a response, with no end in sight. Enoug

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-05 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Ed, On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: On May 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, May 30

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... Q's

2013-06-06 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 6, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: I've been too busy with analysing the latest Rossi test to follow this. I've got the following "official" links to Storms' NAE 2012 Paper : http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEanapproach.pdf Feb 2013 Kick-off post : http://www.mail-archi

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... Q's

2013-06-06 Thread Edmund Storms
What answer were you hoping for? Ed Storms On Jun 6, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: From: "Edmund Storms" Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 1:37:55 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... Thanks. (Not necessarily the answer I was hoping for !!!)

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness... Q's

2013-06-06 Thread Edmund Storms
I assume you hit send before you were finished. Otherwise, this makes no sense. Ed Storms On Jun 6, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: From: "Edmund Storms" What answer were you hoping for? Ten minutes =8-(

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-06-06 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Ed, On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Ed, On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Fri

Re: [Vo]:Yet Another LENR "Miracle": Evolution Didn't Find It

2013-06-09 Thread Edmund Storms
The LENR energy source has a down side. It is not a source of free energy to a biological system. The emitted radiation would be obviously harmful. Consequently, the source would be only employed when this is the only way to avoid death. Fortunately, evolution has found better ways to get e

Re: [Vo]:Yet Another LENR "Miracle": Evolution Didn't Find It

2013-06-09 Thread Edmund Storms
w example. Perhaps experience with LENR will now give permission to test such life forms for nuclear products, which is not presently done. Ed On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: The LENR energy source has a down side. It is not a source of free energy to a biological

Re: [Vo]:Yet Another LENR "Miracle": Evolution Didn't Find It

2013-06-09 Thread Edmund Storms
count for substantial biological disruption at the scales of metabolic energy necessary for life. As you say, it will be interesting to see the arithmetic for this laid out more precisely when LENR research is widely funded. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: On Jun 9,

Re: [Vo]:ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES

2013-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
justify. If the answers are not provided, this mechanism can not be a solution to the CF problem. Ed On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On another thread, Edmund Storms posted how many nuclear fusion atoms must take place to generate 1 Watt of power. We can work backwords

Re: [Vo]:ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES

2013-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
nt of physical principles LENR vs. Nanoplasmonics, it is more a matter of quantity rather than quality of the physical processes. On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Kevin, when you suggest involvement of a BEC, you need to consider the sequence of the process. First deut

Re: [Vo]:ENTANGLEMENT THRESHOLDS FOR RANDOM INDUCED STATES

2013-06-11 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Kevin, when you suggest involvement of a BEC, you need to consider the sequence of the process. First deuterons have to assemble into a BEC of a increasingly larger size.

Re: [Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency

2013-06-12 Thread Edmund Storms
s. Which is it? Or perhaps there's an in-between thing I'm overlooking, that no doubt would save face for one or both of us? On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Kevin, I see no evidence in the link for the actual existence of a BEC forming between hydrons at

Re: [Vo]:Detecting LENR Neutrino... what power needed ?

2013-06-12 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: One theoretical question about LENR is whether it is an electron- capture process, involving the emission of a neutrino, or not. Today we have neutrino detectors like Kamiokande, or Daya Bay, working to detect neutrino from sun or nuclear rea

Re: [Vo]:Detecting LENR Neutrino... what power needed ?

2013-06-12 Thread Edmund Storms
layed in loop along few month. Big Physics mean big jokes. This may be the greatest physics joke of history. If not, WL and Brillouin may be sad, and Steven Krivit sure would be desperate. Me too for the missed joke. 2013/6/12 Edmund Storms On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Alain Sepeda wro

Re: [Vo]:Detecting LENR Neutrino... what power needed ?

2013-06-12 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 12, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Yes a neutrino would be produced. However, as I have said often, the electron is added after almost all the excess mass-energy has been emitted as weak photons. Therefore, the neutrino would have very little energy to carry away, thereby

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Eric, why do you ignore the obvious reaction of D-e-H = tritium? This is the ONLY reaction consistent with all observations. The papers you should read are: 1. Clarke, B.W., et al., Search for 3He and 4He in Arata-style palladium cathodes II: Evidence for tritium production. Fusion

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Tritium is made by gas discharge and gas loading where no lithium or Na is present. The rate is sensitive to the H/D ratio and to the concentration of hydrogen isotope in the material. Ed On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Edmund Storms wrote

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-18 Thread Edmund Storms
Robin, you need to acknowledge what actually is observed rather than what you think should happen. We are witnessing a novel process that has several basic characteristics, which are: 1. Hydrogen isotopes can come together in a material to make a fusion product without emitting the nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-18 Thread Edmund Storms
18, 2013, at 1:43 AM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Tritium is made by gas discharge and gas loading where no lithium or Na is present. The rate is sensitive to the H/D ratio and to the concentration of hydrogen isotope in the material. According

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-18 Thread Edmund Storms
, there has been no response. Ed On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Paul Breed wrote: Ed, >4.) When the isotopes are H, the nuclear product is still unknown Any speculation? My speculation would be D On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Robin, you need to acknowledge w

Re: [Vo]:Brussels LENR meeting presentations in pdf

2013-06-18 Thread Edmund Storms
Very funny, Eric. If I have, it's not for the lack of looking. Ed On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Eric, Tom Passel is not the only source of information. If you want to make a useful conclusion, I suggest you rea

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-20 Thread Edmund Storms
I think we all need to be clear. Heat has been made using normal hydrogen, but without any indication of helium production. The source of this heat has been discussed. Rossi et al. think it results from Ni +p=Cu transmutation, several people suggest it results from fusion of the deuterium im

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-20 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 20, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: I think we all need to be clear. Heat has been made using normal hydrogen, but without any indication of helium production. Has anyone looked for helium production when normal hydrogen produces heat? I don't r

Re: [Vo]: About the March test

2013-06-21 Thread Edmund Storms
Well said, JONES!!! This is exactly the situation. Physics has sold the governments of the world on spending money for research that has practically no value. This use of money limits what else can be explored and greatly distorts what can be discovered. LENR has been rejected and held to

Re: [Vo]: About the March test

2013-06-21 Thread Edmund Storms
so I guess we have to cut them some slack. I would be concerned if what they spread throughout the Internet were able to delay the solution to many of the needs of mankind. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 12:56 pm Su

Re: [Vo]: About the March test

2013-06-21 Thread Edmund Storms
many of the needs of mankind. Dave -Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 12:56 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test Well said, JONES!!! This is exactly the situation. Physics has sold the governments of the world on spendin

Re: [Vo]: About the March test

2013-06-21 Thread Edmund Storms
here makes any reference to the topic of LENR. It is entirely possible that LENR is real and Rossi is a fraud. John From: Edmund Storms To: John Milstone Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test John, it is not a rant. Hot fusion is dea

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Eric, in any theory, a person has to ask how and why. In your theory, how is the energy released as kinetic energy without particles being emitted? How is momentum conserved? Kinetic energy is defined as something moving with a velocity. How is this velocity created from initially still obj

Re: [Vo]: About the March test

2013-06-22 Thread Edmund Storms
outright stealing is without consequence if it is done on a big enough scale. You see, I can match you rant for rant. :-) Ed On Jun 21, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: When LENR is finally applied at a level that even an idiot will

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-22 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 21, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Axil Axil wrote: I don't see how a gram or two of nano-powder can produce 10 kilowatts of heat output. Without running any numbers, the power density is too high. Other atoms besides those in the powder must also be involved in the production of power. How do

[Vo]:Consequence of various nuclear reactions

2013-06-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Regardless of the mechanism, each proposed nuclear reaction has an energy consequence. Here are the consequences for the three reactions proposed to occur. Notice that to make one watt of power, the rate must be between 10^11 and 10^12 events/sec. This means that the reactants must move at

Re: [Vo]:Consequence of various nuclear reactions

2013-06-23 Thread Edmund Storms
, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Regardless of the mechanism, each proposed nuclear reaction has an energy consequence. Here are the consequences for the three reactions proposed to occur. Notice that to make one watt of power, the rate must be between 10^11 and 10^12 events/sec

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-23 Thread Edmund Storms
lker wrote: Ed, these are very good questions. At the risk of reiterating points made in older threads, I'll attempt to address each question as I am able. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: In your theory, how is the energy released as kinetic energy without par

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?

2013-06-23 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 23, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Eric, some theories, including Ron's, are so filled with arbitrary ideas without any connection to what is known that even starting a critique is difficult. The problem is made

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, while your descriptions might explain Garwin's behavior toward LENR. I think another explanation is more likely. Garwin and the other high level skeptics are not stupid and they are not ignorant. They know that CF has a potential to disrupt both the hot fusion program as well as the co

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-03 Thread Edmund Storms
cover the errors. Can you imagine how ignorant these guys will appear in the future when LENR is accepted? I am sure they feel the same way about our misguided prospects. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 5:38 pm Subjec

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Department of Energy Invites Submission of LENR Proposals

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Alain, the phenomenon of LENR itself does not violate the laws of thermodynamics but some of the explanations do. Apparently, this is a problem that physicists have. Many of them do not understand or accept the laws of thermodynamics. Consequently, they waste a lot of time discussing ideas

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Eric, F-P thought they were initiating a version hot fusion. Therefore, they expected a large neutron flux which the dosimeter would detect. They had no understanding about the nuclear process they actually discovered. I expect when they did not find neutrons, they must have questioned thei

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
must cause and immediate adjustment by the theorist to modify their reality to correspond to what is real. Is this what you mean by reality? On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Eric, F-P thought they were initiating a version hot fusion. Therefore, they expected a large

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
historical dimensions. Peter On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Axil, I think a clear distinction needs to be made between reality and imagination. Reality is what we experience, which is described using imagination. Occasionally the imagination actually describes reality

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Department of Energy Invites Submission of LENR Proposals

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
can be used in poor ways, such as using a hammer to fix a headache. Ed Storms On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Alain, the phenomenon of LENR itself does not violate the laws of thermodynamics but some of the explanations do. Apparently, this is a problem that

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
an 4, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Not too early, Peter. The problem F-P faced would have existed whenever the discovery was made because the discovery revealed a new and perviously hidden part of reality. They paid the price of forcing everyone to see a new phenomenon. That discove

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree, Eric, heat is hard to justify and accept. However, ALL nuclear reactions make heat. F-P and many people since 1989 see evidence for a nuclear reaction. That fact alone should have excited scientists. However, we all were taught that a nuclear reaction is not influenced by the che

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
. Reality is not the game itself. Ed Storms On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:15 AM, H Veeder wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Axil, I think a clear distinction needs to be made between reality and imagination. Reality is what we experience, which is described using

Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get (unethically) silent

2014-01-04 Thread Edmund Storms
appreciated. Ed Storms On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: I agree, Eric, heat is hard to justify and accept. However, ALL nuclear reactions make heat. As Martin often pointed out, radioactivity was first detected from the heat it produces, and calorimetry

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