Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community

2016-01-13 Thread Chris Keating
Ok, spot the idiot who can't send an offlist email offlist. On 13 Jan 2016 09:38, "Chris Keating" <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's what the Googleplex wants you to think! > On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote: &

[Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community

2016-01-13 Thread Chris Keating
That's what the Googleplex wants you to think! On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov" wrote: > (perhaps it would be nice to stop wasting everyone's time with this.) > >A. > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nathan wrote: > > > I've written a guess on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Support of Community

2016-01-12 Thread Chris Keating
> > I hope this helps. :) > > Hi Damon - not really, it doesn't. If there is anything that you feel you can and should say publically (bearing in mind whatever confidentiality you have agreed to respect, or feel you should respect ) - then please say it. If there isn't - then please don't hint

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Conflict of Interest Policy

2016-01-11 Thread Chris Keating
rring to discussions related to a resolution. The executive > session of each board meeting is secret. > > On Monday, January 11, 2016, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I am concerned that Denny may not have been recusin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Conflict of Interest Policy

2016-01-10 Thread Chris Keating
> I am concerned that Denny may not have been recusing from discussions and > decisions affecting Google. This strikes me as exceptional, and that the > board doesn't find it so troubles me, and hints that you may all have > something to gain from independent advice. Out of interest, do you know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-09 Thread Chris Keating
ng all the emails Dariusz has said the Board is looking into the situation with Arnnon, which they were clearly not aware of - that is what needs to happen and yet more emails on this list won't mean that happens any more quickly. Regards, Chris K

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

2016-01-06 Thread Chris Keating
I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have served the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many years and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real pleasure to work with both of you. Thank you both for everything you have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-01 Thread Chris Keating
On 1 Jan 2016 21:56, "Joseph Fox" wrote: > > I imagine it would take something quite extraordinary for the board to > reject the community election result outright, as it happens. I would > assume the "nomination v selection" differential is to allow the board to > remove

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2015-12-29 Thread Chris Keating
On 29 Dec 2015 01:17, "Todd Allen" wrote: > > Even if there are legal reasons that disclosure is not possible, a simple > statement to that effect ("For legal reasons, we cannot provide additional > information") should be at the very least forthcoming. > > If the removal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2015-12-29 Thread Chris Keating
> > BTW, it's more "community selected" than "community representative". There's an important distinction there. > Quite - all WMF trustees have identical responsibilities, regardless of which method of selection resulted in them being on the board. For instance Alice and Phoebe both served on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are we so boring?

2015-12-08 Thread Chris Keating
Most Wikimedians are very interesting people. However Milos has hit the nail on the head when he says the most interesting things happening at Wikimedia events are 1-1 conversations. In my view we don't have a "personality" problem (and if we did, we couldn't fix it). What we have, at least in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sick of the subject "(no subject)"

2015-12-04 Thread Chris Keating
Possibly now is the time to draw a line under this conversation, as nothing productive is likely to come of it. On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Rjd0060 wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:50 AM, K. Peachey wrote: > > > Each to their own I guess. > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Keating
Yes, I also thought that was interesting. To invert the presentation of the statistics, 33% of users did mind the banners and 45% were irritated by them. These are actually quite high numbers in my view. (Not to say that the decision to proceed with these banners is wrong, which is a much more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Keating
ree, 18% had no opinion > > Thank you, > Lisa > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > Yes, I also thought that was interesting. To invert the presentation of > the > > statistics, 33% of users did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comments invited 2016 Affiliate Selected Board Seats process

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Keating
that holds things up. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats#Provisional_timeline Please do continue to discuss on Meta. :) Chris On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > It is only a few month

[Wikimedia-l] Comments invited 2016 Affiliate Selected Board Seats process

2015-11-27 Thread Chris Keating
Hello, It is only a few months until someone will need to organise the 2016 Affiliate Selected Board Seats process. Thinking about the process last time I have set up a discussion here:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-27 Thread Chris Keating
I wondered if anyone from FDC is going to respond to this? On 26 Nov 2015 17:04, "Nicola Zeuner" wrote: > Thanks everyone - WMDE welcomes and follows with interest community > discussions about our proposal, the relevance of Wikidata and the use of > community funds.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-25 Thread Chris Keating
On 25 Nov 2015 03:53, "Risker" wrote: > > Thank you, Nikki. Yes, about 70% of the costs were broken down, more or > less. But almost 30% - totalling over US$635,000 - is undifferentiated > "floating capacity" and "administrative costs". Those two amounts, which > are not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Conference 2016: Program Design Process and next steps

2015-11-19 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Nicole! Very glad to see a further increase in the level of focus of the Wikimedia Conference and in the streamlining of the planning process Chris On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Nicole Ebber wrote: > Dear Wikimedia friends, > > Following Christian’s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-13 Thread Chris Keating
Really interesting - thanks for sharing! On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Very interesting read (via Brandon Harris): > > > http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/ > > "the vast majority

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

2015-11-05 Thread Chris Keating
Yay! Great news about Superprotect's scrapping, also really good to hear the direction of travel on the development process. Chris On 5 Nov 2015 17:36, "Quim Gil" wrote: > Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a > product development

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Chris Keating
Since October 27th there have been 3 threads, all started by the same person, with a total of 5 posts . None of which said anything at all confidential. :) Chris On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Laurentius wrote: > At the end, is that mailing list currently active? >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-10-19 Thread Chris Keating
Looking at the current (private) chapters' list, for at least a year 90%+ of the traffic has been announcements that were cross-posted to Wikimedia-l. The other 10% is invitations and requests addressed to "chapters people" that might be boring to most people on wikimedia-l but could have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] help needed - Arkansas

2015-10-14 Thread Chris Keating
Have forwarded on to the GLAM outreach mailing list as there seems to be a public library service behind this. (I would observe that edit count and ability to do outreach don't necessarily correlate that well - someone with a few hundred edits can be a great contact point for a cultural

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-24 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Romaine, And the outcome is ridiculous. This is not a compromise. The Italian WLM team has been crashed under the weight and preponderance of the Wikimedia Foundation. Well - it *is* a compromise. It isn't what you want and I think I understand your reasons for thinking it will have a very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-19 Thread Chris Keating
I can definitely understand your frustration, Romaine. However, if there is a strong operational reason why the Fundraising team can't move the activity they have planned for Italy in September, then I can't really see what resolution there can be except for sharing the banner space. Normally

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Keating
Congratulations to the new Board members - I am sure you will do a great job. And commiserations to those who will be leaving the Board - thank you for all your hard work over many years. Also it is good to see a much higher turnout in this year's elections than in 2013 - well done to those

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Keating
I basically agree with the whole of Risker's post but want to expand in this bit: On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: There are not very many systems, though, that are specifically designed to give multiple winners when one of the conditions is that they *not*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Not all pixels are created equals: introducing brand new Wikimedia France's metrics

2015-04-01 Thread Chris Keating
I give this project FF out of a possible FF. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote: They are not free pixels. Only real free pixels deserve to be counted. Le 1 avr. 2015 23:00, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit : As

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-03-29 Thread Chris Keating
I find the term Advancement Department has a somewhat Orwellian ring. It's quite a normal term in the USA. For instance, the Council for Advancement and Support of Education is the (global, but US-dominated) professional body for university fundraisers. Chris

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Chris Keating
Curious question, by the way: how controversial would you expect this move to be domestically? From e.g. a Swedish perspective, the NSA is an intelligence agency of a foreign power and the other mentioned organizations are either largely uncontroversial and seen in a positive light (Amnesty,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

2015-01-20 Thread Chris Keating
It's worth pointing out that the Board *are* responsible, even if they aren't involved in the actual decision-making - as they are ultimately responsible for everything WMF does. Personally I think the present solution is better than no solution, as cross-project disruption is not something the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

2015-01-20 Thread Chris Keating
My point is that reducing the number of anti WMF people in senior positions on commons by one they might have converted some pro WMF people in senior positions on commons to anti WMF people, producing more damage for themselves than they hoped to create good. I think if you're looking at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

2015-01-20 Thread Chris Keating
My point is that reducing the number of anti WMF people in senior positions on commons by one they might have converted some pro WMF people in senior positions on commons to anti WMF people, producing more damage for themselves than they hoped to create good. I think if you're looking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row

2015-01-11 Thread Chris Keating
As people have said - repeatedly - a bunch of trolls have set up a google group mailing list that appears to be Wikimedia-l and subscribed lots of people to it. If you're subscribed then unsubscribe yourself and report it to Google. There are instructions in other messages. However, please

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

2015-01-08 Thread Chris Keating
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM, FRED BAUDER fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:29:57 +0100 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: As this thread demonstrates, what discussions about the massive gender imbalance in Wikimedia editorship need is more men discussing why it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap project-related decision

2015-01-08 Thread Chris Keating
Hi there, That said, it doesn't matter who writes the content on Wikipedia so long as it's relevant and factual. Who is to decide what is relevant and factual (or indeed, the other editorial judgements we make in writing aricles)? If the only people doing that are white North American and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-06 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks for the details Siko! Going back to the original message in this thread - I would indeed be concerned if the WMF was shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no good reason. However that's not really what's happening. It's more that non-urgent grantmaking is being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good projects for 3 months for no reason

2015-01-03 Thread Chris Keating
Like Bence, I would be interested to see how this kind of experiment in WMF grantmaking works out. And also like him I would be a little surprised if something like this is implemented with no notice period. A couple of responses to Lodewijk's post; with people confirming my fear that this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
I have to say, I don't see anything remotely objectionable in that email. Bold italicised text on a yellow background might not win any design awards but effective fundraising often doesn't win design awards.* I am not 100% sure how much donors care how soon our fundraiser ends (these days at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
Are you by any chance American? Cheers, peter No, I'm English. :) Chris ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
...@telkomsa.net wrote: Are you by any chance American? Cheers, peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Keating Sent: 19 December 2014 01:47 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: OK, I was just wondering if acceptance of this form of marketing was an American thing or more generally an English language thing. Obviously not universally acceptable to English speakers, even in USA and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

2014-12-05 Thread Chris Keating
Also, if anyone's interested in the latest news on Wikimedia UK's governance, do have a look at our most recent governance audit - further info here: https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/11/final-report-on-wikimedia-uk-governance-released/ Some quotes include; *“The charity has very largely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

2014-12-05 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Nathan, On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't there also an issue with WMUK processing payments, in that they couldn't pass 100% of the donations on to the WMF but had to retain some or most of the funds in order to remain independent under British law?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-04 Thread Chris Keating
Which cheese do you use to coax a bear up a mountain? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudo...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Le 2014-12-04 14:57, Martijn Hoekstra a écrit : On Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks again, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Keating
. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 29 November 2014 at 17:35, Chris Keating chriskeatingw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-11-29 Thread Chris Keating
British cheese is better than its reputation suggests, if you know where to look. However British cheeses are difficult to distinguish from British breeds of pig. Gloucester Old Spot, Lincolnshire Poacher, Oxford Sandy and Black, Balcombe Brown Ring, Yarg, Mangalitsa - can you tell which is a pig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 Evaluation Survey Results Posted!

2014-11-27 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Maria - really interesting to see such a thorough evaluation - as well as good to see very positive feedback for the event. I wondered out of curiousity if there was any discernable difference in responses between long-term Wikimedians and people with less previous exposure to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Keating
Interestingly I've just received a fundraising email localised to the UK which doesn't offer any opportunity to give by direct debit. This is the main form of regular giving in the UK, and the alternative that is offered (regular gifts via credit card) is generally deprecated as it gives the donor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Keating
I'd like to add my own thanks to Jon - for doing so much to transform the scale and impact of Wikimedia UK's work over the last three years, and for your invaluable steadiness and tenacity in dealing with the very significant challenges that the chapter's faced during that time. Many best wishes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Keating
However, by keeping the team's formation a secret, and not involving the Chapters' financial staff in the conceptualisation stage (even as advanced warning), does not start the concept off with good will. While completely understanding the point you're making, I would mainly suggest not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Experimenting on Wikimedians

2014-11-02 Thread Chris Keating
Of course the stark reality is that A/B testing on users (typically readers, not editors) during the annual Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser has been a major component of the Wikimedia Foundation's growth. In part that's a myth. The income has been increased simply by making the banners

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Keating
I was always a little surprised by the name Wikimedia Conference. After all, that name would most logically belong to the big, open, week-long event that draws over a thousand people together to talk about every aspect of the movement.* However, that event is already called Wikimania, which also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Keating
The word Conference doesn't in itself imply that an event is open or closed. C On 12 Sep 2014 13:06, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: But Wikimania is not only a Wikimedia Conference. It's a conference open to all people outside the Wikimedia movement. If the name should be as much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Keating
I'm approaching this thread with some trepidation, but would someone mind telling me more about this - or pointing to where this issue is already documented? (I have no idea how to navigate Bugzilla ;) ) 2. Specifically it appears that MV breaks CC-BY-SA-3.0. Details on Bugzilla.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-14 Thread Chris Keating
On 14 Aug 2014 14:50, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: A pattern we see over and over is that the developers talk at length about what they're working on in several venues, then it's released and people claiming

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

2014-08-12 Thread Chris Keating
Does either of you or anyone else see a valid reason to deny this seemingly reasonable and considered request? It's quite obvious that hacks to achieve the same ends are far from ideal. Why not simply disable MediaViewer by default on the German Wikipedia, as requested? In my view, the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia

2014-08-11 Thread Chris Keating
I think the most helpful thing would be to not attempt to start wars, and particularly not on behalf of anyone or against individuals. We are all on the same side here: trying to make the projects (and the project interfaces, as a part of that) better. That includes, for instance, trying out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread Chris Keating
It is clear to me that the Foundation has agreed on this sneaky change behind closed doors while some of the most outspoken Wikimedia volunteers were (and still are) gathered in London. It's interesting you mention Wikimania, because one of the things I took away from the conference was the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Insights of the Chapters Dialogue are online!

2014-08-09 Thread Chris Keating
All we have to do now is answer some of those questions! On 9 Aug 2014 15:22, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info wrote: Thank you so much to everyone involve in work. It's awesome! 2014-08-09 14:29 GMT+02:00 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de: Hi all, we have just published the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bitcoin now accepted, but there are privacy concerns

2014-07-31 Thread Chris Keating
In that case how would the Foundation tell if someone made a number of donations of under $1k that were declarable in aggregate? Hi Lisa, I admit I am not an expert in U.S. tax law, so I could be entirely misinterpreting it. But my read of the IRS instructions are that donors who donate more than

[Wikimedia-l] Movement Board training workshop - last spaces available!

2014-07-29 Thread Chris Keating
Hi all, A handful of spaces are still left for the Wikimedia movement Boards training workshop on 7 August. This would be great for anyone on a Chapter or Thematic Organisation board who wants to make best advantage of Wikimania to sharpen their governance skills. Further details

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMCON14 - Feedback evaluation financial overview

2014-07-28 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Wenke, Many thanks for this, it's very useful reading! I wonder if there is any more detail about each of the individual sessions. Not everyone attended each session so it would be interesting to see how each session was evaluated by the people who were present (either numerically or with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Keating
I expect this would be an interesting meeting if people are interested in participating, and I hope that we would brainstorm some ideas about how we want to move forward on all of these questions and others if we have time. Hi Pine, I think it would be much more productive to think about

[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on the affiliate-selected Board seats process

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Keating
I have jotted down a few notes on the recent process for the selection by movement affiliates of Foundation board members. As you might recall, the result of this year's process was announced last week. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats Please join in if you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-04 Thread Chris Keating
Whatever the right to be forgotten may turn out to be, it's not about publication of previously unpublished information. Ergo, it's not about invasion of privacy, broadly speaking. The opinion makes clear that one can publish true, accurate, already-published information and nevertheless be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-02 Thread Chris Keating
I don't believe Wikipedia could be a data controller as it has no legal personality, and legal personality is quite difficult to acquire when you set out to avoid acquiring it. On this point I must disagree. I'd be interested to hear why :-) I think also though that if editors are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Right to be forgotten

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Keating
As I understand it, the right to be forgotten will only affect the discoverability of content, rather than existence of content. So if we rely on a source which says that person X did Y many years ago, and X succeeds in invoking their right to be forgotten, then the source will no longer appear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks AffComm - it is great to see this moving forward. I have added this info to the Organisational Development page on Meta; http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organisational_development Chris On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Based

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy

2014-05-24 Thread Chris Keating
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:51 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: I will say, in Lila's defense, that I've been impressed with what I've seen of her in public. (: However, Wil, I agree with points others have made. I'm concerned that you're going to create drama with what you're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Keating
@Risker: I was thinking the same, hence my disagreement with Odder's decision. But I've visited the linked website (NSFW) and one can only assume that the person on the pictures is fully aware of the implication of said photos on the internet and willing to see them diffused. I don't think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COM:IDENT?

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Keating
Though in this case it does seem that Commons has given sound advice that any photos submitted should be accompanied by a model release. If only more photos on Commons had model releases! On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: @Risker: I was thinking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Please welcome Lila Tretikov, the Wikimedia Foundation's new ED

2014-05-01 Thread Chris Keating
Congratulations, Lila! On 1 May 2014 20:49, Frans Grijzenhout fr...@wikimedia.nl wrote: Welcome Lila, hope to meet you in person in London. And thanks to Jan-Bart the other members of the transition team. I will forward this great news to the Dutch board community. Frans Grijzenhout

[Wikimedia-l] Organizational development for the Wikimedia movement

2014-04-27 Thread Chris Keating
Hi all, I've started a page on Meta which I hope will act as a hub for documentation and ideas around the training and development needs of Wikimedia movement organisations: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organisational_development I'd ask anyone who's interested in this kind of thing to have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-22 Thread Chris Keating
I'd certainly take quite a broad view of which languages fulfill our mission. Certainly I wouldn't be comfortable with arguments as simple as All people who speak Y also read X, so there's no purpose putting resources into Y. Wikimedia UK does little work with Gaelic, but quite a bit with Welsh;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-17 Thread Chris Keating
This would be an interesting discussion to have in the next movement strategy process. I can see the attraction of doing this, but much better to think about it alongside questions like what are our collective goals, how much money do we want to have and the like. Regards, Chris On 15 Apr 2014

[Wikimedia-l] ASBS sessions update

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Keating
(tomorrow) and organisations have until 31 May to cast votes. Many thanks, Chris Keating ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS sessions update

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Keating
However, I believe the questions were noted to be sent to some of the candidates, perhaps a good way would be to republish them and ask them to answer on meta ? Good idea. I've done this for two questions aimed at all of the candidates. Thanks, Chris

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-07 Thread Chris Keating
As one of the organisers of the workshop, I feel I ought to chime in here. If I remember correctly, those remarks were made as a passing comment in a very emotional session about the role of movement organisations. I don't believe anyone present took them to heart. Indeed, the vast majority of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-07 Thread Chris Keating
I'd certainly hope not. One of the ground rules for the workshop was that individual contributions were made on a confidential and non-attributable basis. This was exactly because we wanted people to speak freely and not worry about a witch-hunt on an email list if a couple of trolls got hold of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-07 Thread Chris Keating
Just to clarify that I don't believe Tomasz, the original poster, was trolling. You, Ashley, have been doing so spectacularly :) On 7 Apr 2014 16:50, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: No. You may want to look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Standards_in_Public_Life this does not

[Wikimedia-l] Update: Affiliate-selected Board seats session in Berlin

2014-04-06 Thread Chris Keating
facilitators in Berlin. I will ensure that, as far as possible, everyone who wishes to ask a question or to contribute to the discussion has the chance to do so. If you have any questions about these sessions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Chris Keating (1) https

[Wikimedia-l] Purpose of WMConf ( was: Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014)

2014-04-02 Thread Chris Keating
Great! We are starting to have the conversation we need to have! So: What is the purpose of the Wikimedia Conference? This has never been clearly defined, in my view. I certainly found attending last year useful as it was a chance to get to know face-to-face people I only knew over email, to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Purpose of WMConf ( was: Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014)

2014-04-02 Thread Chris Keating
I am genuinely puzzled as to why, if nobody on the WMUK board (such as the CEO or the current Chairman) is sure what the purpose of the conference is, they should chose to invest the donor's money in sending 5 trustees and 3 full time employees to it (presumably the employees are being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OFFLIST] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Chris Keating
Just to be clear, there was no only 2 representatives plus an ED rule mentioned in the registration process. If there had been, then Wikimedia UK would have respected it. Given that there wasn't, we thought it was useful to send more than 2 trustees, as we have many new Board members and it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

2014-02-13 Thread Chris Keating
Chipping in my 2p very quickly - Given it's a senior WMF staff member leaving to join another movement organisation, it makes perfect sense that both bodies have put out a joint statement. It's also a good thing for the movement that it's possible to spin off projects like this, which the

[Wikimedia-l] Scope of Wikimedia Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Chris Keating
Should movement organisations in planning come to the Wikimedia Conference? This is a question that has been asked, does not yet appear to have a definite answer, and indeed it is not clear who should answer it. Please provide your thoughts here;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed bylaws amendment

2014-01-08 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Alice. For those interested in this, you might like to note that James Hare has started a discussion about the method used to select these Board members, here; - it reflects the likelihood that thematic orgs will be part of the decision not just chapters.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cochrane Wikipedian In Residence

2013-12-17 Thread Chris Keating
This is a truly awesome initiative, and many thanks to those involved in organising it! Chris On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, Just a reminder that Cochrane is taking signups for a Wikipedian in Residence: Wikipedia:COCHRANE/WIR

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-12 Thread Chris Keating
Other forms of money we do not currently accept include gold coins, Yap money, Tesco Clubcard Points, cowrie shells and cattle. We could accept any of them in theory. Though if anyone wants to donate a herd of cattle to Wikimedia UK please could they contact the office in advance. Chris On 12

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK Board update

2013-12-09 Thread Chris Keating
Dear all, I just wanted to let you know that Michael Maggs has taken over from me as Chair of Wikimedia UK. Michael has served as chair of the Governance Committee since his election to the Board in June, is a long-serving Wikimedia Commons bureaucrat, and I am sure he will do an excellent job.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Keating
or awaiting recognition. Regards, On 5 Dec 2013 20:27, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying registration right away. If you click Other Payment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Keating
? Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds, following WMF's best practices for grant funding... These are off the table? What else is there? Sincerely, Laura Hale On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote: Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Keating
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[Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Keating
***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in London, 1-2 March 2014.*** Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation? Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Keating
Correcting link: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-tickets-8850487045 *cough* On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: ***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in London, 1-2 March 2014.*** Are you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Keating
Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying registration right away. If you click Other Payment Options you can select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-) Chris On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote

[Wikimedia-l] Info: Boards training workshop programme announced

2013-11-24 Thread Chris Keating
Dear all, I am pleased to announce that the programme is now available for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop that will take place in London in March 2014. This is a small event focused on giving Chapter/Thematic Org boards the skills and confidence to do a great job. We are using a wide

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC R1 funding recommendations are posted

2013-11-24 Thread Chris Keating
Many thanks for the considerable hard work that has gone into this process from the FDC and the staff assisting them. Regards, Chris On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: Hello friends, The Funds Dissemination Committee meets twice annually to help

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