Being so close to another net frequency is not going to work unless you
provide a proper filter.
Using flarq efficiently you need to
* use a 500 Hz filter or better
* use a distance of 500 Hz.
We have tried to put 2 pskmail servers on a 250 Hz distance but they
qrm'ed each other in such a way
Most pskmail servers have switched from PSK63 to PSK250,
the effective baud rate is 8x the rate of PSK31.
73,
Rein Pa0R
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Gesendet: 05.01.08 05:21:14
An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [digitalradio] PSK250
Hi,
Yes - Patrick's idea is on the to-do list along with PSF63F. At the moment I
am working on SSTV with the aim of having a beta inside three weeks.
Although SSTV is analogue it's a great weak-signal DX mode and really quite
interesting from a retro-viewpoint.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
-
Rick wrote:
The BBS concept (without the internet) was THE system in place for well
over a decade. We initially had worldwide packet HF BBS systems, however
they were less effective after the sunspots declined and the higher
bands became unusable. Packet does not work well on HF. It
Dave,
I don't agree about Windows real-time scheduling problems - correct use of
priority (SetThreadPriority) and CPU cycle counting (QueryPerformanceCounter)
results in a level of accuracy more than adequate for our needs.
Do you know about the Pactor 3 copyright issue? I believe that it is
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would argue that the fuel for this is the irresponsible use of
Pactor III
by Winlink in unattended PMBOs without the ability to detect whether
or not
the frequency is locally clear - not some inherent flaw or suboptimal
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jose A. Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Once, I had a clash with a british net controller, which I regarded
as
fascist instantly, imposing a limit of 5 K per piece of mail sent
to
the british network. It happened that one of my users had sent a
I left WSJT in mode JT65A monitoring last night as well.
80M, 3.576MHz on the dial and no deep search (see the 1 0 at the end
of the captures). Again, all whilst I was asleep. HI.
043800 6 -18 -0.1 -3 3 * CQ N4UPX EM50 1 0
043900 0 -18 -0.6 19 1
Demetre SV1UY wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jose A. Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[snip]
Once, I had a clash with a british net controller, which I regarded
as
fascist instantly, imposing a limit of 5 K per piece of mail sent
to
the british network. It happened
Hi,
Is there a bozo SVN guide for windows?
The task is not to retreive anything, but to put a project into
sourceforge or similar. The project is about 50 VC++ files and some libs.
Any instructions would be appreciated.
73, Cesco, HB9TLK
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I used the Packet network for many years, only as an operator and
'interested party'. I did talk to some sysops, and most were people
who
wanted the network to work. However, there were some who I suspected
Look like real ones to me, now if only you could work them while sleeping !
On Jan 5, 2008 5:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I left WSJT in mode JT65A monitoring last night as well.
80M, 3.576MHz on the dial and no deep search (see the 1 0 at the end
of the
While in the shack today, I will be FLARQing on 10137 plus 1000 HZ AF.
Andy K3UK FN02hk
On Jan 5, 2008 4:02 AM, Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being so close to another net frequency is not going to work unless you
provide a proper filter.
Using flarq efficiently you need to
* use a
I'm familiar with and use both SetThreadPriority, QueryPerformanceCounter -
but Windows provides no way to guarantee that a process will receive service
within a specified limit. Try dragging around the Windows Task Manager, for
example; even the highest priority processes will be starved. Running
I have often made the distinction between Pactor III and Winlink, Demetre.
For example, see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/25201
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Demetre SV1UY
Sent:
I beacon with a ARQ'd PSK63 signal on 30M this morning and Skip KH6TY
(in 4-land) connected with me . I had seen FLARQ work before , under
Linux, when visiting Skip's shack in the summer. I tried hard to find
others willing to test it on HF but only had partial success with a
local ham on 6M and
Good morning, Dan,
I just received this book for Chirstmas and find it very useful (in
fact, I found this forum becase of the book). It appears to cover
much of the basics and provides a nice overview of various modes,
down to describing the method of transmission, charater sets, etc. I
am
This rather surprises me as I can normally decode PSK31 stations right
next to each other with no problems at all. Even if they are almost
touching each other on the waterfall. And that is using a very wide
filter, typically voice bandwidth, unless I have some very strong
signals that is
I have not seen a bozos guide but can assist you. Offline from the group
might be better...
I am using Goggle Code as the repository for The Ham Network since it uses
SVN. Since I work with Windows I also have a utility called Tortoise SVN
that integrates with Windows Explorer. Via right click I
10137 and 1000 Hz
On Jan 5, 2008 11:11 AM, John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 09:21 AM 1/5/2008, you wrote:
I beacon with a ARQ'd PSK63 signal on 30M this morning and Skip KH6TY
(in 4-land) connected with me
Where you at on 30M Andy?
--
Andy K3UK
At 09:21 AM 1/5/2008, you wrote:
I beacon with a ARQ'd PSK63 signal on 30M this morning and Skip KH6TY
(in 4-land) connected with me
Where you at on 30M Andy?
Rick
You keep lumping automatic together with unattended
As you may know the ProrNet site says to NEVER leave
your station untended as well as the WL2K site.
Couldn't quite cut it from Sarasota, FL, Andy. Thanks for trying. I'll
be beaconing near you.
John W2KI
I also have a utility called Tortoise SVN
that integrates with Windows Explorer.
I have tried this and got extremely confused. I prefer the command line
tool.
I have not seen a bozos guide but can assist you. Offline from the group
might be better...
TNX.
I will mail you directly, maybe
John Becker, WØJAB wrote:
Rick You keep lumping automatic together with unattended
As you may know the ProrNet site says to NEVER leave your station
untended as well as the WL2K site.
A station transmitter without a homo sapiens located at a receiver *at
the location of the receiver*
There seems to be a difference btween reporting systems between the US
system and the European system on terrestrial JT65A contacts.
Can anyone explain to me when a contact is 'valid' between two stations
using the two different systems please?
For example, I received the following today
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That was it, no report, not even OOOs. I was using what, in the
guide, says is the European standard of sending the received dB signal
strength, but the EA station was using the US version, appart from no OOO.
Sorry, my mistake, I missread the guide. Seems that
It is one thing to be automatic and attended
and another to be automatic and unattended .
The rules say you can't be unattended
At 11:19 AM 1/5/2008, you wrote:
A station transmitter without a homo sapiens located at a receiver *at
the location of the receiver* is unattended.
Andrew O'Brien wrote:
Look like real ones to me, now if only you could work them while sleeping !
No point in stopping up tonight though.
2008 ARRL RTTY Round-Up
Begins 1800 UTC Saturday, ends 2400 UTC Sunday (*January 5-6, 2008).
*At 1800 on the dot I had to give up any chance of
Have had the opportunity to use NBEMS on 30m and would offer the following
observations:
. I like how Vbdigi , flarq, and the email software sylpheed work
together. I set up sylpheed to one of my email addresses and it looks like I
can receive mail via Vbdigi, and easily bounce it over
Hello,
The ARRL also sells a very nice book about Digital Signal Processing
although at $45 it is a little expensive. I am just getting started reading
it but if you want to know how all of this stuff we are doing in digital HF
really works, this would be the book to read.
Rick -
Have had the opportunity to use NBEMS on 30m and would offer the following
observations:
. I like how Vbdigi , flarq, and the email software sylpheed work
together. I set up sylpheed to one of my email addresses and it looks like
I
can receive mail via Vbdigi, and easily bounce it
Hi Dave,
Actually what you describe is EME reports as opposed to Terrestrial reports.
The OOO and RO are used for EME but are also the defaults in so much as the
JT65 modes were initially mainly used on EME.
Either will constitute a good contact as long as RRR is exchanged. The 73
exchange is
Sorry if you misunderstood that. I am not sure where you saw me make
such a claim and you might want to point me to such a statement.
My point frequently has been that unattended operation is not permitted
in the U.S. and Riley Hollingsworth has stated this publicly. What I
have said is that
Hi Rick KV9U,
I know we have had a few email exchanges on this and I really
appreciate you and many other digital ops here in this group and on
the bands. I will not get into this too much but agree it must be
attended while in the shack and as you know I'm also a user and
supporter of
Unattended operation is not prohibited. However, every station must have a
control operator (97.7) that fulfills specific duties (97.105) that include
not transmitting when the frequency is already in use (97.101d). The cited
sections are appended below for your convenience.
All of part 97 is
That would depend on your definition of unattended. Remote-controlled
operation is definitely permissable under FCC rules; is this attended or
unattended?
The key requirement is for every station to have a control operator who
performs specific duties. If those duties can be reliably performed
John,
The FCC Part 97 has no such reference. Could you please explain why you
are making such as statement?
73,
Rick, KV9U
John Becker, WØJAB wrote:
It is one thing to be automatic and attended
and another to be automatic and unattended .
The rules say you can't be
At 07:47 AM 1/6/2008, you wrote:
Right here -
As I have pointed out, a number of ham activities that are claimed to be
for the purposes of propagation, especially PropNet and the HFLinkNet
appear to be illegal operations if they are being run automatically. It
is stretching the rules rather
What rule says you can't leave an automatic station unattended? It
would be a great rule, but I don't see it.
Jim
WA0LYK
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It is one thing to be automatic and attended
and another to be automatic and
Hi Don,
I agree that is not completely clear from reading the rules, but maybe
one could interpret them to mean that you can transmit a beacon if you
are the control operator. The main point is that you definitely can not
do this if you operate automatically on the bands below 28 MHz.
I
Hey! I'll call and raise you two!
Unattended operation is not just not prohibited, it is specifically
allowed.
97.3(a)(6)Automatic control. The use of devices and procedures for
control of a station when it is transmitting so that compliance with
the FCC Rules is achieved without the control
Hey Barry, Happy New Year..
Where are you camped out now?
Not much new here, still sticking in TXs and stuff like that with Paul PQ...
Will be in AZ next month I think..
Len
Barry Garratt wrote:
Hi Dave,
Actually what you describe is EME reports as opposed to Terrestrial
reports.
The OOO and RO are used for EME but are also the defaults in so much
as the JT65 modes were initially mainly used on EME.
Either will constitute a good contact as long as RRR is
G'Day David,
Well it can be a bit confusing I suppose in whether 73 is needed or not. I
think you will find a lot of stations will consider the contact good once
RRR has been received. The help file for WSJT states this if you hit F5.
That said if you look at the examples of a minimal QSO for
Hi all,
Too many lawyers in USA killed PACKET RADIO. The way you are going on
you are going to kill all DIGITAL RADIO too.
Hey guys hold your horses. It is a hobby not a court of law.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Demetre, amateur radio in the United States is governed by FCC regulations.
Would the fact that Winlink PMBOs flagrantly violate these regulations have
something to do with your suggestion that we ignore them?
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
-Original Message-
From:
Demetre SV1UY wrote:
Hi Jose,
Happy New Year to you and your family.
Happy New Year to you and yours, too (also, to the readers of this list).
As for the early KAMs you are right, but after a while they brought
out new firmware and they fixed the problem. I have an early KAM with
a
w6ids wrote:
snip
I'm sorry, but I have never understood WHY the mode got dropped just
because PSK came alive. I see no reason why it can't be as fun to
use as legacy RTTY. I'm probably odd man out but frankly, after
some trial and error testing, I have little interest in MT63, Olivia,
The unattended terminology is mostly semantics since the effect of
allowing automatic operation does permit the station to operate without
a control operator present or even performing this duty from a remote base.
Although the FCC does not use the term semi-automatic, we hams often use
it as
Russel,
If your goal is to set up an automated beacon on the 10 meter band, then
you're ok as per Part 97.203. It looks like your out of luck if you want
to test propagation using your own beacon on the lower HF frequencies
without being present in the shack.
That being the case, why not call
Tony, well with all the commits about my question
about Beacons. I was part of the testing of the
NBEMS and the question came up about Beacons below
10m.
So with the Beacon program that comes with VBdigi, in
the message section I will input a CQ.
Now with attended and unattended, with the
I have VBDIGI/FLARQ up and running,and there has been a lot of posts
about 30m frequencies.
I do not have a 10Mh antenna so would like to know of frequencies for 14
and 7Mh, so that I can monitor/beacon in the right spots.
Kevin VK5OA
MultiPSK also has a reverse button for QPSK modes.
Jose, CO2JA
Demetre SV1UY wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Demetre SV1UY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[snip]
And don't forget that really it does not matter if you use USB or LSB
and you can always flick the REVERSE SWITCH. This
OK, Bruce. Rereading my post, maybe I forgot to emphasize that
one size does not fit all.
I am not against development at all, actually, I try to follow it as
closely as affordable, but discarding what works in favor of newer, more
fashionable is somehow singing in the same tune of the
Dave AA6YQ wrote:
Demetre, amateur radio in the United States is governed by FCC
regulations.
Would the fact that Winlink PMBOs flagrantly violate these
regulations have something to do with your suggestion that we ignore
them?
Thank you for that, Dave.
de Roger W6VZV
Russell,
It's my understanding that the ham accessing ones station via the
internet (IRB) is not the control operator. The reason is that the ham
at the computer does not have the ability to shut down the transmitter
in the event of trouble.
I think the bottom line is that the control
Tony, I'm not trying to split hairs, But Hams that are
remote controling thier radios as with HRD program are
putting there radios in an unattended state. I when
and looked at my TS-450s and your right there is no
command via CV-I to turn off the radio if it got in
trouble. I will post this
Russell,
Understand -- licensed 18 years and still asking questions. Have fun...
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Russell Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?
Tony, I'm not
Kevin,
Do you realize that 3 x 3.5 = 10.5, which is close to 10.137. An 80m antenna
will operate on the third harmonic for 30m operation! I have never seen this
published as far as I can remember. Lots of references to using a 40m
antenna on 15 m, but not to using an 80m antenna on 30m. This
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Roger J. Buffington
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, Demetre, you got something against lawyers?
We lawyers LOVE digital radio. Down with anti-lawyer bigotry.
He he Roger,
Some people don't like pactor and some don't like lawyers!!
de Roger W6VZV
73
Also, my error-correction on times, again this is a 2 day event:
de kb9umt Don
Jan19th z to Jan20th 2400z..please note that. Thanks
de kb9umt Don
EU 30 Meter Digital Weekend Event
My error...correction on times-this is a 2 day event:
When: January 19th utc to January 20th 2400 utc
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