RE: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread Kevin Conrad
> It will be good to see what a fresh young
> mind will bring to the
> table. Our last 2 mayors have put the city in the
> position it is now. It's a
> shame and a disgrace, it really is.

What did the last 2 mayors do?

Kevin

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Re: RE: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread DJ Entropy

>> Also Drum and Bass. A load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno
>records
>> round about 1993, 

Weird, considering that Hardcore, which was the the foundation that jungle/dnb 
developed from, dates back to as early as 1988, with the likes of Lennie De Ice 
and Shut Up 
And Dance

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RE: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread FC3 Richards
blahblah

hey isn't the artful dodger from detroit??  he sure has made alot of money
off of crap.  

jeff


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hey alex...
youre from the uk so you really should know it ,,,
seems like youre  a bit narrow minded bout that,,,drum n bass
is music in deed,you might not like itz but you really cant say that
there are only some producers that cut it,,,you should really go and look
how people like optical, ed rush or bad company have pushed music
and also mastering,,,just have a listen to some of their plates
on your system and then play some of your own records,,,you will
see what i talk about
another tihng,,,you should go to a garage/2.step,,anyway called party
and enjoy it,,,dont say its all crap,,be a bit more open-minded and
enjoy music..
thats what i mean..
ronster


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> than a passing interest in music from Detroit?
> How on earth did anyone ever confuse Kevin Saunderson and Alex Reece???
I'm
> gobsmacked.
>
> Also Drum and Bass. A load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno
records
> round about 1993, what are most of 'em doing now?
> Speed bloody Garage, 2-Step, what ever you want to call it.
>
> Alright, there's a few D+B producers who can cut it (Photek/Dillinja?) but
> overall, I have to say it's bobbins, and barely worth a discussion, that
> music is full of people just trying to make a fast buck (I don't blame 'em
> for that) but really, is it 'music'?
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Re: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread Tim Maughan
make the music wit yo mouth bayyyb

on 25/1/02 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 1/25/02 5:20 PM, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
>> 
>> i grew up w/ biz markie, e.p.m.d , in brentwood,ny and for the life of me
>> can't figure out where they got their musical skills from, not being from
>> detroit and all ;)
> 
> Well, you see, even Hip-hop was actually created in Detroit; people don't
> really know about that. You see, there was this guy, uh, Kool Rock Ski who
> moved from Detroit to the South Bronx in the '70's and brought the whole
> culture there with him. Yeah... ;)
> 
>> 
>> seriously though, he used to get knocked big time at local parties...
> people
>> throwing stuff at him, telling him he couldn't rap for dog doo-doo.
> 
> I could see that. I mean, the fact is, Biz IS a total clown. But therein lies
> his 
> genius, as far as I'm
> concerned.
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Re: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread joshtwentythree
i missed the beginning of this thread because i was
gone for a couple days and got overwhelmed with
emails, but, if someone feels like it could they let
me know what exactly a "reese bassline" is...i know
where it came from now, but what characteristics
define it?

josh23
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> I wasn't necessarily referring to you personally,
> Ian.  I was pointing out 
> and expressing my dismay towards the the myopic
> nature of most junglists, 
> specifically in reference to their naivety regarding
> the true nature of the 
> "Reese" bassline. 
> 
> Peter
> > 
> > 1/25/2002 11:39:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > >  Just goes to show you that junglists need to
> pull the blinders off and
> > >
> > >  listen and learn about something else besides
> drum'n'bass.
> > 
> > Why do you think I'm on this list?  ;)
> > 
> > >  Kevin "Master Reese" Saunderson released some
> of the first UK hardcore
> > >  records in America on KMS for fuck's sake.
> > 
> > Yeah, I know  :)
> > 
> > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy  
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Re: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread Oscillate
In a message dated 1/25/02 6:06:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I wasn't necessarily referring to you personally, Ian.  I was pointing out 
and expressing my dismay towards the the myopic nature of most junglists, 
specifically in reference to their naivety regarding the true nature of the 
"Reese" bassline. 

Peter
> 
> 1/25/2002 11:39:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  Just goes to show you that junglists need to pull the blinders off and
> >
> >  listen and learn about something else besides drum'n'bass.
> 
> Why do you think I'm on this list?  ;)
> 
> >  Kevin "Master Reese" Saunderson released some of the first UK hardcore
> >  records in America on KMS for fuck's sake.
> 
> Yeah, I know  :)
> 
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Re: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread DJ Entropy
1/25/2002 11:39:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  Just goes to show you that junglists need to pull the blinders off and
>
>  listen and learn about something else besides drum'n'bass.

Why do you think I'm on this list?  ;)

>  Kevin "Master Reese" Saunderson released some of the first UK hardcore
>  records in America on KMS for fuck's sake.

Yeah, I know  :)

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Re: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread jkessler
on 1/25/02 5:20 PM, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> 
> i grew up w/ biz markie, e.p.m.d , in brentwood,ny and for the life of me
> can't figure out where they got their musical skills from, not being from
> detroit and all ;)

Well, you see, even Hip-hop was actually created in Detroit; people don't 
really know about that. You see, there was this guy, uh, Kool Rock Ski who 
moved from Detroit to the South Bronx in the '70's and brought the whole 
culture there with him. Yeah... ;)

> 
> seriously though, he used to get knocked big time at local parties... 
people
> throwing stuff at him, telling him he couldn't rap for dog doo-doo.  

I could see that. I mean, the fact is, Biz IS a total clown. But therein lies 
his 
genius, as far as I'm
concerned.

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Re: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread :P
he cant rap.  thats why he kicks so much ass


-Joe

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>
> i grew up w/ biz markie, e.p.m.d , in brentwood,ny and for the life of me
> can't figure out where they got their musical skills from, not being from
> detroit and all ;)
>
> seriously though, he used to get knocked big time at local parties...
people
> throwing stuff at him, telling him he couldn't rap for dog doo-doo.
>
> -pete
>
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>
>
> on 1/25/02 4:35 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting essay... I especially enjoyed the part about Kilpatrick
> singing
> >> along with Biz Markie. That's hilarious!
> >
> > It's POWERFUL.  I don't know if Kilpatrick ever hung out at the
> > Institutebut he may be the country's first hiphop/house mayor.
> > Astounding.
>
> Oh, no doubt it is powerful and real cool. Especially due to the fact that
> he
> had someone as raw as Biz perform. I don't know who else was on the
> bill, but the inclusion of Biz definitely gets high marks from me.
>
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RE: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread Grammenos, Peter

i grew up w/ biz markie, e.p.m.d , in brentwood,ny and for the life of me
can't figure out where they got their musical skills from, not being from
detroit and all ;)

seriously though, he used to get knocked big time at local parties... people
throwing stuff at him, telling him he couldn't rap for dog doo-doo.  

-pete

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on 1/25/02 4:35 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Interesting essay... I especially enjoyed the part about Kilpatrick 
singing
>> along with Biz Markie. That's hilarious!
> 
> It's POWERFUL.  I don't know if Kilpatrick ever hung out at the
> Institutebut he may be the country's first hiphop/house mayor.
> Astounding.

Oh, no doubt it is powerful and real cool. Especially due to the fact that
he 
had someone as raw as Biz perform. I don't know who else was on the 
bill, but the inclusion of Biz definitely gets high marks from me.

-J

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Re: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 1/25/02 4:35 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting essay... I especially enjoyed the part about Kilpatrick
> singing
> >> along with Biz Markie. That's hilarious!
> >
> > It's POWERFUL.  I don't know if Kilpatrick ever hung out at the
> > Institutebut he may be the country's first hiphop/house mayor.
> > Astounding.
>
> Oh, no doubt it is powerful and real cool. Especially due to the fact that he
> had someone as raw as Biz perform. I don't know who else was on the
> bill, but the inclusion of Biz definitely gets high marks from me.
> -J

Oh...I forgot.  Rick Wilhite, DJ Fingers, DJ Snake...and I think Biz was
the headliner.  No...I KNOW Biz was the headliner, I don't think there
were anymore djs though.  Wilhite only had twenty or so minutes on the
tables, but I was really hoping for some deep deep deep house.  He
probably left it at the crib though...most house djs leave the deep stuff
at the crib when dj'ing "mainstream" gigs.

pity.

(biz has been in detroit a few times.  dennis archer jr. usually uses him
at his parties.  can keep a crowd on the floor no DOUBT...but he isn't
that good technically.)


peace
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Re: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread jkessler
on 1/25/02 4:35 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Interesting essay... I especially enjoyed the part about Kilpatrick 
singing
>> along with Biz Markie. That's hilarious!
> 
> It's POWERFUL.  I don't know if Kilpatrick ever hung out at the
> Institutebut he may be the country's first hiphop/house mayor.
> Astounding.

Oh, no doubt it is powerful and real cool. Especially due to the fact that he 
had someone as raw as Biz perform. I don't know who else was on the 
bill, but the inclusion of Biz definitely gets high marks from me.

-J

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Re: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Interesting essay... I especially enjoyed the part about Kilpatrick singing
> along with Biz Markie. That's hilarious!

It's POWERFUL.  I don't know if Kilpatrick ever hung out at the
Institutebut he may be the country's first hiphop/house mayor.
Astounding.


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RE: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread Alexandres Lugo
Very good essay, Lester. I agree on most points except one:

And even though Detroit's suburbs have a
vested interest in helping Detroit (as Detroit goes, so goes suburban
Detroit), they are too blinded by short-sighted concerns tied to racism to
truly engage in the help that the city needs.


I don't think that Detroit's suburbs (generalizing here...) are interested
in anything but the stadiums and casinos downtown. The main factors are that
the majority of jobs are not located in Detroit but in the suburbs so unless
you really enjoy hockey, baseball, or gambling there really is no need to go
to Detroit (understandable). I'm not saying the avoidance of Detroit is
conscious in any way, but if you take away the need to interact with
downtown, you ask yourself what's down there that I can't do a couple of
miles from home?

There are many cities in the U.S. that are thriving without casinos to foot
the bill and turn their downtown into a shitty version of Las Vegas. Go a
couple of blocks from the Motor City casino and you're in an area most
people wouldn't be caught dead walking through. Back in the day when the
RenCen was built there were a lot of complaints that it segregated itself
with the infamous wall and created a virtual bubble with the rest of
downtown Detroit. These casinos have done the same thing.

A positive example of rejuvenation was (yes, was) Trapper's Alley in
Greektown. Before the renovation, it was literally an alley of cobblestone
with some antique shops and a historical landmark. At its peak (84-86), this
was the place to hang, shop, eat, buy music on the top floor, they even had
a club in there. The point is, it was an attraction for suburbanites as well
as locals without alienation of either group. Casinos will never be the
answer. They do not provide enough of a service the community, other than
taxes, to be a positive addition.

As far as Kwame goes, I think that's a good thing. I went to Cass Tech with
him and it's really cool to see one of my classmates as mayor, but strange
as well. It will be good to see what a fresh young mind will bring to the
table. Our last 2 mayors have put the city in the position it is now. It's a
shame and a disgrace, it really is.

Peace,
Alex
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 As some of you know, Detroit recently elected a 31 year old as mayor of
 Detroit.  Although we are not "friends," we are colleagues of a sort...so
 I went to the Inaugural in order to support his installation.  I wrote
 this essay in response...and though it is tangentially related to the
 list, I think the kicker at the end is directly related.  Take a
 look...and send to others if you wish.

 peace
 lks

 
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I was blessed to be able to attend a couple of inaugural events for Kwame
Kilpatrickand I've been trying to think of a way to put my feelings and
thoughts on his election into words.  A discussion I had last night with
St. Louis' first black mayor Freeman Bosley (now a business owner and talk
show host) help crystallize many of these thoughts into something that
should be relatively coherent.  First I'll talk about the events
themselves.

I got a chance to attend both the Inaugural Ball and the Club Crawland to
a certain extent these events represented a stark departure from the
previous mayor's events.  Not so much in the type of event, but moreso the
crowd.  To give you a brief examplewhen Dennis Archer St. was first
inaugurated, a party geared for the younger crowds was held for him at the
State Theater.  I attended along with my wife, and though we were glad we
went, the first thing that jumped out at us was the crowd.  Even though
the event was open to the public and advertised as such, the only people
there seemed to be related through a number of black upper-class networks.
The men and women there either knew each other through Jack and Jill, or
through a number of prestigious private and public schools (University of
Detroit, Cranbrook, Country Day, Cass Tech, Renaissance), or through a
number of prestigious universities (Northwestern, University of Michigan,
Harvard Law School).  I was lucky enough to almost literally sneak into
the University of Michigan, but I got the feeling from that event that if
I would have gone to Wayne St. instead, I would not have attendedor if I
had attended I would not have known anyone there.  As the author of "Our
Kind of People" (a journalistic account of the black upper class) notes,
it was indeed like the black upper class had finally gotten "thei

RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread John Bush
> turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than
> the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered
> a few techno records round about 1993)

That's stretching the truth -- nobody spun a hardcore/drum'n'bass set with
just Bug in the Bassbin and a few KMS records...  There were a lot of great
records coming straight out of the British hardcore/rave scene back then,
and though Detroit techno influenced a *few* of them, the scene was totally
self-supporting.

John


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a couple of thoughts..

it's a reese bassline - kevin master reese saunderson.. not alex
'metalheadz' reece.. d'n'b/hardcore had reese basslines before it had alex
reece.. nobody who was into d'n'b should even make this mistake or else they
haven't been listening..

d'n'b has proved itself - it's influenced modern r'n'b and spawned the whole
uk garage thing - personally i'm not into either, but it proves that d'n'b
has influenced/inspired people - so it's music.. techno influenced d'n'b
(see above) and you don't have to be into both, but you can't go around
saying one thing isn't music just 'cause you're not into it.. turning your
nose up at d'n'b is no better than the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who
discovered a few techno records round about 1993) who deserted photek when
he put house tracks on the last album..

i like delsin.. the new delsin album by dimension5 is lush..

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Re: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread Super Coffee Beans
as a person who started out in drum`n`bass- that was my first music i really
got into - than i decided to build a little studio and started spinning. i
can say i feel drum`n`bass in a lot of the techno i hear today, people like
charles Noel which i really really like and stuff like Bpitch control
(mainly i feel the ellen alien tracks are full of drum`n`bass ideads).
i agree with  stephan the dimention 5 on delsin is just great album.
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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: [313] is it music?


> a couple of thoughts..
>
> it's a reese bassline - kevin master reese saunderson.. not alex
> 'metalheadz' reece.. d'n'b/hardcore had reese basslines before it had alex
> reece.. nobody who was into d'n'b should even make this mistake or else
they
> haven't been listening..
>
> d'n'b has proved itself - it's influenced modern r'n'b and spawned the
whole
> uk garage thing - personally i'm not into either, but it proves that d'n'b
> has influenced/inspired people - so it's music.. techno influenced d'n'b
> (see above) and you don't have to be into both, but you can't go around
> saying one thing isn't music just 'cause you're not into it.. turning your
> nose up at d'n'b is no better than the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers
who
> discovered a few techno records round about 1993) who deserted photek when
> he put house tracks on the last album..
>
> i like delsin.. the new delsin album by dimension5 is lush..
>
> rave on kids - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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Re: [313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread jkessler
Interesting essay... I especially enjoyed the part about Kilpatrick singing 
along with Biz Markie. That's hilarious!

-J

on 1/25/02 12:50 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> 
> As some of you know, Detroit recently elected a 31 year old as mayor of
> Detroit.  Although we are not "friends," we are colleagues of a sort...so
> I went to the Inaugural in order to support his installation.  I wrote
> this essay in response...and though it is tangentially related to the
> list, I think the kicker at the end is directly related.  Take a
> look...and send to others if you wish.
> 
> peace
> lks
> 
> 
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>> Assistant Professor 314-935-5856 fax
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>> Department of Political Science Box 1063
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>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> I was blessed to be able to attend a couple of inaugural events for 
Kwame
> Kilpatrickand I've been trying to think of a way to put my feelings and
> thoughts on his election into words.  A discussion I had last night with
> St. Louis' first black mayor Freeman Bosley (now a business owner and 
talk
> show host) help crystallize many of these thoughts into something that
> should be relatively coherent.  First I'll talk about the events
> themselves.
> 
> I got a chance to attend both the Inaugural Ball and the Club Crawland 
to
> a certain extent these events represented a stark departure from the
> previous mayor's events.  Not so much in the type of event, but moreso 
the
> crowd.  To give you a brief examplewhen Dennis Archer St. was first
> inaugurated, a party geared for the younger crowds was held for him at 
the
> State Theater.  I attended along with my wife, and though we were glad 
we
> went, the first thing that jumped out at us was the crowd.  Even though
> the event was open to the public and advertised as such, the only 
people
> there seemed to be related through a number of black upper-class 
networks.
> The men and women there either knew each other through Jack and Jill, 
or
> through a number of prestigious private and public schools (University 
of
> Detroit, Cranbrook, Country Day, Cass Tech, Renaissance), or through 
a
> number of prestigious universities (Northwestern, University of 
Michigan,
> Harvard Law School).  I was lucky enough to almost literally sneak into
> the University of Michigan, but I got the feeling from that event that if
> I would have gone to Wayne St. instead, I would not have attendedor if I
> had attended I would not have known anyone there.  As the author of 
"Our
> Kind of People" (a journalistic account of the black upper class) notes,
> it was indeed like the black upper class had finally gotten "their" kind
> of person into the mayoraltyand they came out in full force to recognize
> his (and their) ascension.
> 
> Kilpatrick's eventseven the Ball with ticket prices at $100/headdid not
> have that kind of feel at all.  The Michigan folks were there in full
> effectbut along with them I saw people representing the Shrine of the
> Black Madonna, the InnerCity Sub Center, the Community Coalition, and 
a
> number of other working class organizations and institutions.
> Furthermore, I also saw brothers and sisters who most likely didn't 
make
> it to college period much less an institution like Northwestern or
> Michigan.  And I saw a mixture of people from the East side of the city
> and the West side.  Now I didn't see too many white men and womenso
> arguably Kilpatrick's events weren't as racially integrated as that of his
> predecessorbut these events were definitely more integrated by class.  
The
> same vision was apparent at the club crawlall sorts of black men and 
women
> came out to see the new mayor.  There were conservative lawyers 
dressed in
> Armani, there were gangsters dressed in Coogi, and a host of people in
> between.  Truly a microcosm of Detroit came to celebrate the new 
mayorand
> it was a beautiful sight to see.  The power of Detroit lies within the
> souls of its black folkand in these events it seemed as if the new mayor
> was very cognizant of this factand perhaps no more so than the end of 
the
> night of the Club Crawl event.  The last DJ to perform was Biz Markiean
> old school hiphop head who now spends more of his time dj'ing than 
he does
> in the studio.  As Biz Markie played his own most memorable song "the
> vapors" the mayor of the tenth largest city in Americaarguably the
> blackest city in North and South Americabegan to sing with the song.
> 
> Until that momentI didn't know how older men and women in Detroit felt
> when they finally elected Coleman Young.  But when I saw thatI got it.
> We'd finally elected one of our own.  We'd truly made historynot only by
> electing a man with a strong working class consciousness, but electing 
a
> young man with such a consciousnes

RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread Stephen Kelly

a couple of thoughts..

it's a reese bassline - kevin master reese saunderson.. not alex 
'metalheadz' reece.. d'n'b/hardcore had reese basslines before it had alex 
reece.. nobody who was into d'n'b should even make this mistake or else they 
haven't been listening..


d'n'b has proved itself - it's influenced modern r'n'b and spawned the whole 
uk garage thing - personally i'm not into either, but it proves that d'n'b 
has influenced/inspired people - so it's music.. techno influenced d'n'b 
(see above) and you don't have to be into both, but you can't go around 
saying one thing isn't music just 'cause you're not into it.. turning your 
nose up at d'n'b is no better than the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who 
discovered a few techno records round about 1993) who deserted photek when 
he put house tracks on the last album..


i like delsin.. the new delsin album by dimension5 is lush..

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RE: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread FC3 Richards
AND if i remember right a couple of Carl Craigs early records were spun by
Grooverider at 45rmp to make what would be called Drum and Bass
nowadays...Lets face it folks.  everything musically comes from Detroit!

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> Yesss, tell 'em how it is Oscillate.
> 
> That's my point exactly, put exactly how I would want to put it.
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 25/01/2002 16:39:31
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> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/25/02 7:03:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> 
> 
> > That's really odd, because everyone I have ever known in the jungle/dnb
> > scene has thought the "Reese Bass" comes from Alex Reese...
> 
> Just goes to show you that junglists need to pull the blinders off and
> listen
> and learn about something else besides drum'n'bass.
> 
> Kevin "Master Reese" Saunderson released some of the first UK hardcore
> records in America on KMS for fuck's sake.
> 
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Re: [313] so is it really music?

2002-01-25 Thread Super Coffee Beans
i`ll tell u a little secret, i have learned it in a long life of checking
defenition.
if u want a good defeniton of something its for sure not in the Dictionary.
defetions are someting  that the human reasoning needs but i am not too sure
that it can be done.
since any object (like let say MUSIC) is infinitive..
C
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From: "Rusty Blasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:22 PM
Subject: [313] so is it really music?


> Dictionary definition of music according to Webster (sorry the edition is
a
> little old):
>
> 'the art and science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds or tones in
> varying melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre, especially so as to form
> structurally complete and emotionally expressive compositions'
>
> interesting third definition:
>
> 'any rhythmic sequence of pleasing sounds, as of birds, water, etc.'
>
> and:
>
> 'ability to respond to or take pleasure in music'
>
> Music does not have to be melodious.  It is merely a contemplated
> arrangement of sounds for the purposes of communicating emotions.  Believe
> me, debates about what is music vs. what isn't raged in my mind for quite
> some time during my early college years.  Music is most essential when it
> reflects the environment and society in which it was conceived, hence, the
> increasing utilization of technological sounds (as an indication of
> industrial and intellectual advancement).  The beauty is in discovering
the
> underlying human thoughts and feelings which comprise the core of a piece
> and subsequently a moment in time.  The subjective experience of music
(art
> in general) protects it from the myopic qualifications which critics
> (amateur and professional alike) impose upon it.  Our desire to create
music
> stems from a desire to convey our deepest emotions in a way words
themselves
> can't oblige.  It is a means to transcend our physical limits.
>
> Here I will halt though I could probably compose a thesis on said subject.
> Comments?
>
>Rusty
>
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[313] SCAN7

2002-01-25 Thread Alexandres Lugo
Anyone else check out this show? Very good show, in my opinion. The 2
opening DJ's were pretty good as well and they even had some live conga
players during the sets. Very nice!  The crowd, though small, was very
diverse. A refreshing alternative to the Motor crowd. It seemed they went on
later than they wanted too or weren't looking at the time (went on about
1:30) because when they went to do their first shout out at 2 the sound was
shut down and it was "bye bye folks".

Peace,
Alex
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[313] so is it really music?

2002-01-25 Thread Rusty Blasco
Dictionary definition of music according to Webster (sorry the edition is a 
little old):


'the art and science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds or tones in 
varying melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre, especially so as to form 
structurally complete and emotionally expressive compositions'


interesting third definition:

'any rhythmic sequence of pleasing sounds, as of birds, water, etc.'

and:

'ability to respond to or take pleasure in music'

Music does not have to be melodious.  It is merely a contemplated 
arrangement of sounds for the purposes of communicating emotions.  Believe 
me, debates about what is music vs. what isn't raged in my mind for quite 
some time during my early college years.  Music is most essential when it 
reflects the environment and society in which it was conceived, hence, the 
increasing utilization of technological sounds (as an indication of 
industrial and intellectual advancement).  The beauty is in discovering the 
underlying human thoughts and feelings which comprise the core of a piece 
and subsequently a moment in time.  The subjective experience of music (art 
in general) protects it from the myopic qualifications which critics 
(amateur and professional alike) impose upon it.  Our desire to create music 
stems from a desire to convey our deepest emotions in a way words themselves 
can't oblige.  It is a means to transcend our physical limits.


Here I will halt though I could probably compose a thesis on said subject.  
Comments?


  Rusty



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[313] The Future of Detroit

2002-01-25 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence

 As some of you know, Detroit recently elected a 31 year old as mayor of
 Detroit.  Although we are not "friends," we are colleagues of a sort...so
 I went to the Inaugural in order to support his installation.  I wrote
 this essay in response...and though it is tangentially related to the
 list, I think the kicker at the end is directly related.  Take a
 look...and send to others if you wish.

 peace
 lks

 
> Lester Kenyatta Spence  314-935-5814 off
> Assistant Professor 314-935-5856 fax
> Washington University   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> One Brookings Drive
> Department of Political Science Box 1063
> St. Louis, MO. 63130-4899
> 
>


I was blessed to be able to attend a couple of inaugural events for Kwame
Kilpatrickand I've been trying to think of a way to put my feelings and
thoughts on his election into words.  A discussion I had last night with
St. Louis' first black mayor Freeman Bosley (now a business owner and talk
show host) help crystallize many of these thoughts into something that
should be relatively coherent.  First I'll talk about the events
themselves.

I got a chance to attend both the Inaugural Ball and the Club Crawland to
a certain extent these events represented a stark departure from the
previous mayor's events.  Not so much in the type of event, but moreso the
crowd.  To give you a brief examplewhen Dennis Archer St. was first
inaugurated, a party geared for the younger crowds was held for him at the
State Theater.  I attended along with my wife, and though we were glad we
went, the first thing that jumped out at us was the crowd.  Even though
the event was open to the public and advertised as such, the only people
there seemed to be related through a number of black upper-class networks.
The men and women there either knew each other through Jack and Jill, or
through a number of prestigious private and public schools (University of
Detroit, Cranbrook, Country Day, Cass Tech, Renaissance), or through a
number of prestigious universities (Northwestern, University of Michigan,
Harvard Law School).  I was lucky enough to almost literally sneak into
the University of Michigan, but I got the feeling from that event that if
I would have gone to Wayne St. instead, I would not have attendedor if I
had attended I would not have known anyone there.  As the author of "Our
Kind of People" (a journalistic account of the black upper class) notes,
it was indeed like the black upper class had finally gotten "their" kind
of person into the mayoraltyand they came out in full force to recognize
his (and their) ascension.

Kilpatrick's eventseven the Ball with ticket prices at $100/headdid not
have that kind of feel at all.  The Michigan folks were there in full
effectbut along with them I saw people representing the Shrine of the
Black Madonna, the InnerCity Sub Center, the Community Coalition, and a
number of other working class organizations and institutions.
Furthermore, I also saw brothers and sisters who most likely didn't make
it to college period much less an institution like Northwestern or
Michigan.  And I saw a mixture of people from the East side of the city
and the West side.  Now I didn't see too many white men and womenso
arguably Kilpatrick's events weren't as racially integrated as that of his
predecessorbut these events were definitely more integrated by class.  The
same vision was apparent at the club crawlall sorts of black men and women
came out to see the new mayor.  There were conservative lawyers dressed in
Armani, there were gangsters dressed in Coogi, and a host of people in
between.  Truly a microcosm of Detroit came to celebrate the new mayorand
it was a beautiful sight to see.  The power of Detroit lies within the
souls of its black folkand in these events it seemed as if the new mayor
was very cognizant of this factand perhaps no more so than the end of the
night of the Club Crawl event.  The last DJ to perform was Biz Markiean
old school hiphop head who now spends more of his time dj'ing than he does
in the studio.  As Biz Markie played his own most memorable song "the
vapors" the mayor of the tenth largest city in Americaarguably the
blackest city in North and South Americabegan to sing with the song.

Until that momentI didn't know how older men and women in Detroit felt
when they finally elected Coleman Young.  But when I saw thatI got it.
We'd finally elected one of our own.  We'd truly made historynot only by
electing a man with a strong working class consciousness, but electing a
young man with such a consciousness.  A man who, if he wasn't known, could
easily fit the profile of "America's most wanted" presented daily in the
papers and on tv.  This was a majestic momentwhich brings me back to my
conversation with Mayor Bosley.

The hardest thing for Bosley was never running and winning, even though
the odds were stacked against him.  The hardest thing was always
governanc

RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread neontsetse
> This is barely comprehensible. Sorry.
> 

what do you mean by that ?

- the grammar and stuff ? - pffr 

or you got the meaning and you complain about that ? 

you could complain a bit more detailed then - 

- oh and robin - about the bla-man thing  

hm listen - I would love to shut up and just read and learn more 

about the deeper things in 313-culture  - 

(beside the always good2know record collector-stuff) 

but most comments here - are so flat and are just üärgh - 

I mean why the f±±± is this rubbish almost every day, like: 

"Mills should do and write this and that", or yesterday - "Stacey Pullen
should 

mix like this" so people give him a mark as if it´s about getting marks at
school ?

the Music needs to be like this and that ? ? ? 

What do you know about the meaning of certain drum patterns ? 

The meaning of african culture in music (and techno music) and how 

it developes through the circumstances the dominating nations create on the
planet.

What is it that makes you move - beside "banging beats" or that it´s "hot" ?

I´m here 4 understanding more ... 

does that make sense ? 

ps -  alex reece "c" not "s" was the pulp fiction one - 

and - adam f - bob james sampling - octave one - bob james roadies 

off 2day 

party nite nite 


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[313] bassline

2002-01-25 Thread marsel


where does the name 'bassline' come from?

where does the name 'alex' come from?

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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Rob Theakston
delsin's good. so are mangos. kevin saunderson rocks. i'd like for him to
bring back some of those older tracks via repress. and i thought it was
Kevin Maurice Saunderson into Master Reese as a nickname/play on words which
led to Reese?

maybe professors sicko/van loo/malbon know the answers?



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From: marsel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: Re: [313] inside out


At 1/25/2002 + 11:19, you wrote:

> >
> > but where did the name "reese bassline" come from?
> >
>
>
>kevin "master reese" saunderson


(ehm.. plug alert)

about mr reese, he'll be doing a five hours (!) set next week at the
melkweg (milky way) here in amsterdam. . fri feb 1

before that, you can enjoy two hours of dj'ing by peel seamus, the guy from
delsin..

fri 1feb from 10h pm - 5am


bleep


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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread marsel


i thought it's Kevin Maurice Saunderson
and then Maurice -> M'Rice -> Reese

?



At 1/25/2002 + 11:41, you wrote:

Wrong. KMS was called 'Reese' much earlier.



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Re: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread marsel

At 1/25/2002 + 11:19, you wrote:


>
> but where did the name "reese bassline" come from?
>


kevin "master reese" saunderson



(ehm.. plug alert)

about mr reese, he'll be doing a five hours (!) set next week at the 
melkweg (milky way) here in amsterdam. . fri feb 1


before that, you can enjoy two hours of dj'ing by peel seamus, the guy from 
delsin..


fri 1feb from 10h pm - 5am


bleep


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Re: [313] Bobbins

2002-01-25 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Oh, let's not go down that road again...

...at least, not unless you have access to a large amount of capital and
want to co-own a musik mag?

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> Sorry to kiss a**e, but, yeah it was a great little mag.
> It's been a long long time since I saw a copy though, 3/4 years?
>
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 25/01/2002 16:17:30
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>
> Subject:  Re: [313] Bobbins
>
>
>
> I do and I thought it was great
>
>
>
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 25/01/2002 04:19:47 PM
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Re: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread alex.bond

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Yesss, tell 'em how it is Oscillate.

That's my point exactly, put exactly how I would want to put it.





[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 25/01/2002 16:39:31
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Subject:  Re: [313] The Reese bass


In a message dated 1/25/02 7:03:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> That's really odd, because everyone I have ever known in the jungle/dnb
> scene has thought the "Reese Bass" comes from Alex Reese...

Just goes to show you that junglists need to pull the blinders off and
listen
and learn about something else besides drum'n'bass.

Kevin "Master Reese" Saunderson released some of the first UK hardcore
records in America on KMS for fuck's sake.

pw
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[313] mysterious mag mystifys

2002-01-25 Thread Shosh _



Yeah I can remember that magic feet magazine used to think it was ok but 
could never find it very easily. Whilst on the nostalgia trip does anyone 
remember the old fanzine that "the droid" used to put out forget its name 
was it overload or something like that please advise or I will go insane 
otherwise. Also does anyone out there remember "Chillin FM"

Aaahh happy days
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Re: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread Oscillate
In a message dated 1/25/02 7:03:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> That's really odd, because everyone I have ever known in the jungle/dnb 
> scene has thought the "Reese Bass" comes from Alex Reese...

Just goes to show you that junglists need to pull the blinders off and listen 
and learn about something else besides drum'n'bass.

Kevin "Master Reese" Saunderson released some of the first UK hardcore 
records in America on KMS for fuck's sake.

pw
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Re: [313] 2001 gems

2002-01-25 Thread Shosh _

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Subject: [313] 2001 gems
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As it's still near the beginning of the year, I thought that this is still
a relevant topic.
Over the last few weeks there have been loads of lists in magazines, net
etc. with top lists of 2001.
While I don't slavishly go out and buy all the top 10 records, I do find
these useful to check I haven't missed anything major which I should have
bought.
I bought Cannibal Ox "The Cold Vein" the other day, which has turned out to
be really interesting "musical" hip hop (although I'm not a big fan of the
genre). Has anyone any comments on this album, or any albums which they
resisted buying / didn't hear about all year, and have now bought, and
recommend.
Cheers.


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did you pick up the album by maurice fulton "stress why put me through it?" 
very good experimental, quircky, cool use of sounds. very nice. also Labfunk 
by Atjazz on mantis-recordings and something by Schmoove called "while you 
wait" on diy's label DiY Discs. Does anyone remember DiY the crowd from 
nottingham?

Check these three albums out if you didn't get them first time round.
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Re: [313] Bobbins

2002-01-25 Thread alex.bond

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Sorry to kiss a**e, but, yeah it was a great little mag.
It's been a long long time since I saw a copy though, 3/4 years?




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I do and I thought it was great




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Re: [313] Bobbins

2002-01-25 Thread Alastair_Jones

I do and I thought it was great




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[313] Bobbins

2002-01-25 Thread alex.bond
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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"What do you think of that dope new So Solid mix little Johnny?"

"It's f***in Tim Robbins that mate"

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Re: [313] 2001 gems

2002-01-25 Thread Toby Frith
Everybody on this list has probably got and savoured it but Herbert's
"Bodily Functions."  Why this guy is not a star is beyond me.


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> As it's still near the beginning of the year, I thought that this is still
> a relevant topic.
> Over the last few weeks there have been loads of lists in magazines, net
> etc. with top lists of 2001.
> While I don't slavishly go out and buy all the top 10 records, I do find
> these useful to check I haven't missed anything major which I should have
> bought.
> I bought Cannibal Ox "The Cold Vein" the other day, which has turned out
to
> be really interesting "musical" hip hop (although I'm not a big fan of the
> genre). Has anyone any comments on this album, or any albums which they
> resisted buying / didn't hear about all year, and have now bought, and
> recommend.
> Cheers.
>
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Re: [313] 2001 gems

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Dinsmor
If you like that you should check out "One/Three" by Dabrye on Ghostly 
International.
One of my top 10 of '01.


Agci

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> bought.
> I bought Cannibal Ox "The Cold Vein" the other day, which has turned out to
> be really interesting "musical" hip hop (although I'm not a big fan of the
> genre). Has anyone any comments on this album, or any albums which they
> resisted buying / didn't hear about all year, and have now bought, and
> recommend.
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[313] 2001 gems

2002-01-25 Thread Alastair_Jones
As it's still near the beginning of the year, I thought that this is still
a relevant topic.
Over the last few weeks there have been loads of lists in magazines, net
etc. with top lists of 2001.
While I don't slavishly go out and buy all the top 10 records, I do find
these useful to check I haven't missed anything major which I should have
bought.
I bought Cannibal Ox "The Cold Vein" the other day, which has turned out to
be really interesting "musical" hip hop (although I'm not a big fan of the
genre). Has anyone any comments on this album, or any albums which they
resisted buying / didn't hear about all year, and have now bought, and
recommend.
Cheers.


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RE: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Put that in your column and smoke it, I dare you!

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>Subject: Re: [313] string 'n' pad
>
>
>Personally I enjoyed Alex's post, if only for the outstanding use of the
>word 'bobbins', one of my favourite English colloquialisms and one I've
>hardly heard since the great days of Madchester. Discuss.
>
>And if you ask me, he's right about that garage/2-step bobbins
>too. So Solid
>my a**e. Bunch of TWOCers, the lot of 'em. Oops... :-)
>
>TOM
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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>> An: <313@hyperreal.org>
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>>
>>
>> > Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>> >
>> >  Start of message text 
>> >
>> > Ok, I'm new to this mail service, so I'm not familiar with the topics
>you
>> > discuss.
>> >
>> > But, surely if you subscribe to a mail service like this, you have more
>> > than a passing interest in music from Detroit?
>> > How on earth did anyone ever confuse Kevin Saunderson and Alex Reece???
>> I'm
>> > gobsmacked.
>> >
>> > Also Drum and Bass. A load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno
>> records
>> > round about 1993, what are most of 'em doing now?
>> > Speed bloody Garage, 2-Step, what ever you want to call it.
>> >
>> > Alright, there's a few D+B producers who can cut it (Photek/Dillinja?)
>but
>> > overall, I have to say it's bobbins, and barely worth a
>discussion, that
>> > music is full of people just trying to make a fast buck (I don't blame
>'em
>> > for that) but really, is it 'music'?
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RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
This is barely comprehensible. Sorry.

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>
>music is so much more -
>
>communication and projections 
>
>much of 313-music is full of things to talk about
>
>but it should happen a much higher level then only comments about taste -
>
>incl. some respect 4 the musicians beeing judged by others -
>
>so much more then any other people get judged 4 what they do 4 some reason
>
>Of course it also can´t go without bringing in your perspective...
>
>but a lil more reflective then sometimes b4 - pleeez
>
>(respect 4 some ewoks too)
>
>... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list
>
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Fw: [313] Will any of you...

2002-01-25 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Surely listmember Prof. Sicko should just publish his paper online, or
better still, on this list, once all the brow-furrowing is over?Maybe Adam
Miller could be persuaded to do the same...

TOM


> > So still need someone who's going to kindly give us even the most
> sketchiest
> > of reports back please please please ... in the name of anorak-dom at
> least!
> > :o)
> >
> > Shorter Oxford English Dictionary: Anorak - noun; colloquial; (UK) an
> > obsessive about a particular hobby or pastime, e.g. angling, philately,
> > Detroit techno.
> >
> > Have a nice weekend all.
> >
> > K
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:34 PM
> > >Cc: '313@hyperreal.org'
> > >Subject: Re: [313] Will any of you...
> > >
> > >
> > >Uh...I take that lie back: my lift to the event backed out on me last
> > >min, so somebody else will need to do the reporting.
> > >
> > >=(
> > >
> > >Grand opening, Grand closing,
> > >
> > >Glyph.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >glyph1001 wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'll be going...it'll be VERY interesting.  =)
> > >>
> > >> Glyph
> > >>
> > >> Pryor, Ryan N wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> 313'ers be attending this?
> > >>>
> > >>> Critical Studies:Humanities Lecture Series "Detroit Sound"
> > >>> Lecturing from 1:00 - 4:30 pm
> > >>> Adam Lee Miller-Adult.
> > >>> Carl Craig-Planet E
> > >>> Rita Sayegh
> > >>> Dan Sicko
> > >>>
> > >>> Location-DeSalle Auditorium, Cranbrook Art Museum, Bloomfield Hills,
> > >>> Michigan
> > >>> Open to the public on a first-come, first-served basis with museum
> > >>> admission
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RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread Shosh _

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Subject: RE: [313] is it music?
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:30:30 +0100 (MET)

music is so much more -

communication and projections 

much of 313-music is full of things to talk about

but it should happen a much higher level then only comments about taste -

incl. some respect 4 the musicians beeing judged by others -

so much more then any other people get judged 4 what they do 4 some reason

Of course it also cani?t go without bringing in your perspective...

but a lil more reflective then sometimes b4 - pleeez

(respect 4 some ewoks too)

... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list

soon

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I know exactly what you mean it is so much more than just taste, but before 
anything else you have to appreciate the music, first you have to feel it 
then and only then can you offer a view. In the end though if music is a 
feeling and you ain't feeling it it ain't music to you. Your view can 
however change if you are prepared to open yourself to new experiences and 
through practice, ie. listening, you can then train your ear to enjoy it. 
When you know the effort and thought that has gone into a composition you 
can't help but admire the individuals or person that created the piece. 
Question is a piece of music as valid knowing the creator/s are doing it to 
make a quick killing or are the struggling musicians out there the true 
music makers?

Blimey what a heavy composition!
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Re: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Personally I enjoyed Alex's post, if only for the outstanding use of the
word 'bobbins', one of my favourite English colloquialisms and one I've
hardly heard since the great days of Madchester. Discuss.

And if you ask me, he's right about that garage/2-step bobbins too. So Solid
my a**e. Bunch of TWOCers, the lot of 'em. Oops... :-)

TOM

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> Betreff: [313] string 'n' pad
>
>
> > Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
> >
> >  Start of message text 
> >
> > Ok, I'm new to this mail service, so I'm not familiar with the topics
you
> > discuss.
> >
> > But, surely if you subscribe to a mail service like this, you have more
> > than a passing interest in music from Detroit?
> > How on earth did anyone ever confuse Kevin Saunderson and Alex Reece???
> I'm
> > gobsmacked.
> >
> > Also Drum and Bass. A load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno
> records
> > round about 1993, what are most of 'em doing now?
> > Speed bloody Garage, 2-Step, what ever you want to call it.
> >
> > Alright, there's a few D+B producers who can cut it (Photek/Dillinja?)
but
> > overall, I have to say it's bobbins, and barely worth a discussion, that
> > music is full of people just trying to make a fast buck (I don't blame
'em
> > for that) but really, is it 'music'?
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[313] re: is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread R - Type
i personally like when artists put thought into their craft... be it minimal 
house/tech...d'n'b or ambient...you can tell. but at other times no thought is 
just as good...as long as it has funky rythms!!



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[313] artist question

2002-01-25 Thread Ron
hi,,,
can anyone tell me whos behind the project A.E.S. ,,
i got a tracl called "music in my head" and its just so awesome
was it released on vinyl?? i didnt find anything
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RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread robin pinning
> 
> ... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list 


no, not more blabla!


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Re: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread Ron
hey alex...
youre from the uk so you really should know it ,,,
seems like youre  a bit narrow minded bout that,,,drum n bass
is music in deed,you might not like itz but you really cant say that
there are only some producers that cut it,,,you should really go and look
how people like optical, ed rush or bad company have pushed music
and also mastering,,,just have a listen to some of their plates
on your system and then play some of your own records,,,you will
see what i talk about
another tihng,,,you should go to a garage/2.step,,anyway called party
and enjoy it,,,dont say its all crap,,be a bit more open-minded and
enjoy music..
thats what i mean..
ronster


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> How on earth did anyone ever confuse Kevin Saunderson and Alex Reece???
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> gobsmacked.
>
> Also Drum and Bass. A load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno
records
> round about 1993, what are most of 'em doing now?
> Speed bloody Garage, 2-Step, what ever you want to call it.
>
> Alright, there's a few D+B producers who can cut it (Photek/Dillinja?) but
> overall, I have to say it's bobbins, and barely worth a discussion, that
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RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread neontsetse
music is so much more - 

communication and projections  

much of 313-music is full of things to talk about 

but it should happen a much higher level then only comments about taste - 

incl. some respect 4 the musicians beeing judged by others - 

so much more then any other people get judged 4 what they do 4 some reason
 
Of course it also can´t go without bringing in your perspective...  

but a lil more reflective then sometimes b4 - pleeez 

(respect 4 some ewoks too) 

... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list 

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RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread Shosh ;�)

From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: [313] is it music?
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:12:04 -0500

i like delsin. and mangos for breakfast!

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the age old is it music or is it noise debate,at the end of the day if it
makes you moove then it is justified as a form of entertainment, thus who
are we to comment on whether or not it is or is not music. for the people
who enjoy d'n'b it most certainly is music but for the rest it sounds like,
a person that fell down a flight of stairs with their drum kit. however if
it entertains then it justifiably takes its place as a musical genre. i
would like to think thath there are a number of people that enjoy d'n'b 
that
enjoy all good music not just their own particular favourite, there is 
after

all only two types of music out there "good" and "bad" music. as the old
saying goes "beauty is in the eye, or in this case ear, of the beholder.
finaly if you get nothing out of a particular piece of music it's fair to
say for you it's "bad" music and vice versa if it's "good" music, but your
"bad" music is just your own taste or opinion and as everyone knows 
opinions
are like arseholes. everyone has one and sometimes they are full of shit. 
so

now a little pause for thoughtit's all house music

Shosh.
P.S it's just my opinion




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i dunno what delsin is, is it nice? oh i like traffic lights little hobby of 
mine. red...yellow...green...ah bliss

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RE: [313] Will any of you...

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
So still need someone who's going to kindly give us even the most sketchiest
of reports back please please please ... in the name of anorak-dom at least!
:o)

Shorter Oxford English Dictionary: Anorak - noun; colloquial; (UK) an
obsessive about a particular hobby or pastime, e.g. angling, philately,
Detroit techno.

Have a nice weekend all.

K

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>Uh...I take that lie back: my lift to the event backed out on me last
>min, so somebody else will need to do the reporting.
>
>=(
>
>Grand opening, Grand closing,
>
>Glyph.
>
>
>
>glyph1001 wrote:
>
>> I'll be going...it'll be VERY interesting.  =)
>>
>> Glyph
>>
>> Pryor, Ryan N wrote:
>>
>>> 313'ers be attending this?
>>>
>>> Critical Studies:Humanities Lecture Series "Detroit Sound"
>>> Lecturing from 1:00 - 4:30 pm
>>> Adam Lee Miller-Adult.
>>> Carl Craig-Planet E
>>> Rita Sayegh
>>> Dan Sicko
>>>
>>> Location-DeSalle Auditorium, Cranbrook Art Museum, Bloomfield Hills,
>>> Michigan
>>> Open to the public on a first-come, first-served basis with museum
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RE: [313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread Rob Theakston
i like delsin. and mangos for breakfast!

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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:06 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] is it music?



the age old is it music or is it noise debate,at the end of the day if it
makes you moove then it is justified as a form of entertainment, thus who
are we to comment on whether or not it is or is not music. for the people
who enjoy d'n'b it most certainly is music but for the rest it sounds like,
a person that fell down a flight of stairs with their drum kit. however if
it entertains then it justifiably takes its place as a musical genre. i
would like to think thath there are a number of people that enjoy d'n'b that
enjoy all good music not just their own particular favourite, there is after
all only two types of music out there "good" and "bad" music. as the old
saying goes "beauty is in the eye, or in this case ear, of the beholder.
finaly if you get nothing out of a particular piece of music it's fair to
say for you it's "bad" music and vice versa if it's "good" music, but your
"bad" music is just your own taste or opinion and as everyone knows opinions
are like arseholes. everyone has one and sometimes they are full of shit. so
now a little pause for thoughtit's all house music

Shosh.
P.S it's just my opinion




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[313] is it music?

2002-01-25 Thread SHAUN SWINDELL


the age old is it music or is it noise debate,at the end of the day if it 
makes you moove then it is justified as a form of entertainment, thus who 
are we to comment on whether or not it is or is not music. for the people 
who enjoy d'n'b it most certainly is music but for the rest it sounds like, 
a person that fell down a flight of stairs with their drum kit. however if 
it entertains then it justifiably takes its place as a musical genre. i 
would like to think thath there are a number of people that enjoy d'n'b that 
enjoy all good music not just their own particular favourite, there is after 
all only two types of music out there "good" and "bad" music. as the old 
saying goes "beauty is in the eye, or in this case ear, of the beholder. 
finaly if you get nothing out of a particular piece of music it's fair to 
say for you it's "bad" music and vice versa if it's "good" music, but your 
"bad" music is just your own taste or opinion and as everyone knows opinions 
are like arseholes. everyone has one and sometimes they are full of shit. so 
now a little pause for thoughtit's all house music


Shosh.
P.S it's just my opinion




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Re: [313] Will any of you...

2002-01-25 Thread glyph1001
Uh...I take that lie back: my lift to the event backed out on me last 
min, so somebody else will need to do the reporting.


=(

Grand opening, Grand closing,

Glyph.



glyph1001 wrote:


I'll be going...it'll be VERY interesting.  =)

Glyph

Pryor, Ryan N wrote:


313'ers be attending this?

Critical Studies:Humanities Lecture Series "Detroit Sound"
Lecturing from 1:00 - 4:30 pm
Adam Lee Miller-Adult.
Carl Craig-Planet E
Rita Sayegh
Dan Sicko

Location-DeSalle Auditorium, Cranbrook Art Museum, Bloomfield Hills,
Michigan
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RE: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread T . J . Johnson
No offense, Alex, but it sounds like you have more of a hatred for the people 
and not the music...



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RE: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread alex.bond

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Point taken Ken,

Sorry, just was on a bit of a rant. Of course people should come here
ignorant, it's a good resource for people.

I just can't stand a lot of that sort of music - the boundaries between
that and techno, I admit ,are blurred.
It's a lot of the jokers associated with that sort of music that I have a
pet hate for as well (of course, NOT ALL of them).

For the record I hate Student, Puffa-Jacket wearing wanna-be bad boys as
well (You know the sort, were dead into rave/happy hardcore, then found
some 'credibility' with 'Jungle' and now are speed garage
producers/know-it-alls)

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[313] Is It All Over My Face

2002-01-25 Thread JovanBlade
Was reissued in 2001 on 12 inch

Loose Joints ~ "Is It All Over My Face"  - West End Records
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Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread tom churchill
> Reece-Kevin Saunderson
> Reese-Alex Reese?
> 
> or something like that.  i could have it backwards.

Yeah, you do have it backwards...

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RE: [313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Careful about asking 'Is it music?' almost any dance music afficionada has
to ask themselves the same question in a dark night of the soul ... But for
me personally, it IS music. Perhaps a new kind of music which takes the
aesthetic principles of modern art and applies them to sound - CF: The Art
of Noise (the name itself is a kind of manifesto, non?). Their early records
could be seen as early techno, in which the potentional of Kraftwerk, Devo,
etc were finally fused into as much a new way of appreciating sound as a new
kind of music(That's my stock answer to 'Is it Music' anyway!).

Also, I'm happy for people to come here ignorant - to educate on modern
detroit dance music is what the site's meant to do, after all.

Finally, sorry for preaching to those who know more than me. Peace.

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>Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>
> Start of message text 
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>Ok, I'm new to this mail service, so I'm not familiar with the topics you
>discuss.
>
>But, surely if you subscribe to a mail service like this, you have more
>than a passing interest in music from Detroit?
>How on earth did anyone ever confuse Kevin Saunderson and Alex Reece??? I'm
>gobsmacked.
>
>Also Drum and Bass. A load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno records
>round about 1993, what are most of 'em doing now?
>Speed bloody Garage, 2-Step, what ever you want to call it.
>
>Alright, there's a few D+B producers who can cut it (Photek/Dillinja?) but
>overall, I have to say it's bobbins, and barely worth a discussion, that
>music is full of people just trying to make a fast buck (I don't blame 'em
>for that) but really, is it 'music'?
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RE: RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread FC3 Richards
doesn't it all depend on how it is spelled??

Reece-Kevin Saunderson
Reese-Alex Reese?


or something like that.  i could have it backwards.  i know they are both
big names in their respected genre's, but i think the names are spelled
backwards...

but then again i could be wrong as usual...

jeff

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> >> "Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used 
> >> that "wobble" type sound in 1994, I believe.
> >> 
> >> *useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*
> >> 
> >> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy  
> >
> >No, Alex Reese has nothing to do with it. The name Reese comes from Kevin
> >Saunderson nickname Reese, actualy he called himself Kevin 'Master reese'
> >Saunderson (KMS). 'Master Reese' is a spin of from his middle name,
> >Maurice...
> 
> Uh...
> 
> The "Reese Bassline" that people were talking about in the jungle/dnb
> world does come from Alex Reese.
> 
> I don't know if Kev Saundy ever made a bassline that was called the
> "Reese", but that is irrelavent, that's not what they were talking about.
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Re: [313] OT: Adam F

2002-01-25 Thread s mcgill
He's also the son of Alvin Stardust.
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Subject: [313] OT: Adam F


> 1/25/2002 7:09:38 AM, "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Name another Adam F classic, except Colours :o)? ... OK, I admit, he's
the
> >guy people into DnB love to hate. Not always justifiably. But it's true
that
> >he doesn't have much of a body of work behind him - compared to say
someone
> >like Ed Rush ... AF's making a packet now as a hip hop producer ... good
for
> >him.
>
> Well, Adam F is a guy who hopped into jungle/dnb for a little bit, made a
few totally innovative tunes (for the time), and then hopped out as fast as
he got in.  He just said "this
> is my intrepetation of what you guys are doing"I can respect that.
He brought some outside influences into the genre, which is usually a good
thing.
>
> I don't care too much, I don't necc love him or anything, there are people
I'm way more into for jungle/dnb that deserve more of my respect, but he has
way more integrity than
> say, Bad Company or Klute or any of those clowns..
>
> :)
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Re: [313] song ID

2002-01-25 Thread Williams, Howard
It's a Derrick Carter track - 

Derrick L Carter : The Unterschrift EP  (Classic) UK Release

the particular track is : End Of the Line (Got Change For A Twenty?)

The rest of the EP is superb also.

Cheers,

Howard


Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:39:39 +0100
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
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> it's a common one, Derrick Carter also plays it a lot. undulating piano
line
> and some guy talking over it "wherever I go, I'm always on the move..."
sort
> of thing.

please answer on the list, also I am very interested.
"Got change for a twenty .. "

Cheers,
Maarten

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[313] string 'n' pad

2002-01-25 Thread alex.bond
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Ok, I'm new to this mail service, so I'm not familiar with the topics you
discuss.

But, surely if you subscribe to a mail service like this, you have more
than a passing interest in music from Detroit?
How on earth did anyone ever confuse Kevin Saunderson and Alex Reece??? I'm
gobsmacked.

Also Drum and Bass. A load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno records
round about 1993, what are most of 'em doing now?
Speed bloody Garage, 2-Step, what ever you want to call it.

Alright, there's a few D+B producers who can cut it (Photek/Dillinja?) but
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Re: [313] OT: Adam F

2002-01-25 Thread Gary_Girard



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Lemme at em! lemme at em!

Adam F is damn good.

His tune, "Brand New Funk" is the tune that really got me into Drum and
Bass. Just ask KT, i'd scream like a loon when it came on.

I'm listening to the Andy C remix of "Stand Clear" as we speak, it's got
the
whole scene buzzing at the mo.

And his tune "Metrosound" is currently one of the most saught after tunes
as
well, it's only on promo. I want it bad, and Sheldon went ape on NYE when
he
heard it.

And the guy who said that about Bad Company - who's he? Cheeky sod.

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1/25/2002 7:09:38 AM, "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >Name another Adam F classic, except Colours :o)? ... OK, I admit, he's
the
 >guy people into DnB love to hate. Not always justifiably. But it's true
that
 >he doesn't have much of a body of work behind him - compared to say
someone
 >like Ed Rush ... AF's making a packet now as a hip hop producer ... good
for
 >him.

Well, Adam F is a guy who hopped into jungle/dnb for a little bit, made a
few totally innovative tunes (for the time), and then hopped out as fast as
he got in.  He just said "this
is my intrepetation of what you guys are doing"I can respect that.
He brought some outside influences into the genre, which is usually a good
thing.

I don't care too much, I don't necc love him or anything, there are people
I'm way more into for jungle/dnb that deserve more of my respect, but he
has way more integrity than
say, Bad Company or Klute or any of those clowns..

:)

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Re: [313] RE: (313) RE: (313) stacey pullen - electric relaxation

2002-01-25 Thread Toby Frith
Wasn't Aphex's NYC debut playing sandpaper on one deck?  I'm sure I read
something ludicrous like that some years back?

Saw Mills in Zurich late last year and after about 2 hours he looked at the
admittedly lame crowd and raised his eyebrows, and probably thought "I can't
be arsed with this"... he had been dropping a number of classics throughout.



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Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) RE: (313) stacey pullen - electric relaxation


> So the final verdict on DJ Pullen? :o)
>
> I vote yes (as in I think he's 'good'). My reasons is that he's versatile
> and competent. Any reports to the contrary I'd attribute to fatigue or
> deliberate archness. Someone said that one of the nights upon which it's
> claimed he played poorly there were a lot of 'MTVers' in the crowd ... I
> know of at least 2 other occasions I've seen djs deliberately attempt to
> rile a crowd they didn't like: Aphex Twin - when his assessment of some
> skinheads he'd spotted at the  front was not good, Carl Craig at The End -
> when no one liked his remix of Buena Vida - that was funny: 'What The
Fuck!'
> he said when no one danced - But it got a cheer!
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >To: s mcgill
> >Cc: 313; :P
> >Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) RE: (313) stacey pullen - electric
> >relaxation
> >
> >
> >
> >I remember the night you're talking about although I think I was mainly
in
> >the main room for Hawtin & Aquaviva that night. I caught him the time
> >before at The End and that was only about a month earlier. That time was
> >the first time I heard him spin and I liked what I heard, all good
> >dancefloor material. I imagine this style to be a more typical Pullen
set,
> >somewhere in between techno & house but all excellent tracks to dance to.
> >After that night I remember going record shopping & looking for Stacey
> >Pullen material as I was so impressed by what I heard.
> > My point is really that he must have played a lounge set in the lounge,
> >let him play in the main room and you'll get the harder side of Pullen -
> >unless you're at Motor of course ;o)
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RE: [313] RE: (313) RE: (313) stacey pullen - electric relaxation

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
So the final verdict on DJ Pullen? :o)

I vote yes (as in I think he's 'good'). My reasons is that he's versatile
and competent. Any reports to the contrary I'd attribute to fatigue or
deliberate archness. Someone said that one of the nights upon which it's
claimed he played poorly there were a lot of 'MTVers' in the crowd ... I
know of at least 2 other occasions I've seen djs deliberately attempt to
rile a crowd they didn't like: Aphex Twin - when his assessment of some
skinheads he'd spotted at the  front was not good, Carl Craig at The End -
when no one liked his remix of Buena Vida - that was funny: 'What The Fuck!'
he said when no one danced - But it got a cheer!
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:22 PM
>To: s mcgill
>Cc: 313; :P
>Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) RE: (313) stacey pullen - electric
>relaxation
>
>
>
>I remember the night you're talking about although I think I was mainly in
>the main room for Hawtin & Aquaviva that night. I caught him the time
>before at The End and that was only about a month earlier. That time was
>the first time I heard him spin and I liked what I heard, all good
>dancefloor material. I imagine this style to be a more typical Pullen set,
>somewhere in between techno & house but all excellent tracks to dance to.
>After that night I remember going record shopping & looking for Stacey
>Pullen material as I was so impressed by what I heard.
> My point is really that he must have played a lounge set in the lounge,
>let him play in the main room and you'll get the harder side of Pullen -
>unless you're at Motor of course ;o)
>
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Re: [313] RE: (313) RE: (313) stacey pullen - electric relaxation

2002-01-25 Thread Gary_Girard

I remember the night you're talking about although I think I was mainly in
the main room for Hawtin & Aquaviva that night. I caught him the time
before at The End and that was only about a month earlier. That time was
the first time I heard him spin and I liked what I heard, all good
dancefloor material. I imagine this style to be a more typical Pullen set,
somewhere in between techno & house but all excellent tracks to dance to.
After that night I remember going record shopping & looking for Stacey
Pullen material as I was so impressed by what I heard.
 My point is really that he must have played a lounge set in the lounge,
let him play in the main room and you'll get the harder side of Pullen -
unless you're at Motor of course ;o)

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RE: RE: RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread elkay

i played drum and bass for 5 years and was pretty into that scene in
Boston, where i lived at the time.  other dnb head friends from coast to
coast pretty much all respected adam f.  but then again, most dnb people
love to hate almost anyone anyway, admittedly.

"colors" "metropolis" "brand new funk" were all adam f anthems, all from
around the same time though.  good to see he's moving on.

lk

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

> Name another Adam F classic, except Colours :o)? ... OK, I admit, he's the
> guy people into DnB love to hate. Not always justifiably. But it's true that
> he doesn't have much of a body of work behind him - compared to say someone
> like Ed Rush ... AF's making a packet now as a hip hop producer ... good for
> him.
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: DJ Entropy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:49 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; Odeluga, Ken
> >Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: [313] inside out
> >
> >
> >1/25/2002 6:46:36 AM, "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>u sure?
> >
> >Actually, I was worng, I just corrected myself.
> >
> >As it turns out, the tune that was sampled by all the jungle/dnb
> >cats was "Just Want Another Chance"by Reese (aka kevvy
> >saundy)still lookin for a sample of it, or an
> >mp3...
> >
> >>Nearly all the young bass heads are in awe of Kevin Saunderson
> >
> >Well, I dunno about that  ;)
> >
> >>and
> >>it's definitely him they mean when they say a Reese Bassline.
> >Can't think of
> >>any who actually admit to liking Alex Reese ... he's almost akin to Adam F
> >>to them ... Did you know Alvin Stardust is Adam F's dad?
> >
> >Hey, Circles is a classic tune.  :)
> >
> >Who is Alvin Stardust?
> >
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Re: [313] OT: Adam F

2002-01-25 Thread Tim Maughan
on 25/1/02 12:14 pm, DJ Entropy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Name another Adam F classic, except Colours :o)?

Metropolis. techno pads and rolling Reese bass. awesome.


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[313] OT: Adam F

2002-01-25 Thread DJ Entropy
1/25/2002 7:09:38 AM, "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Name another Adam F classic, except Colours :o)? ... OK, I admit, he's the
>guy people into DnB love to hate. Not always justifiably. But it's true that
>he doesn't have much of a body of work behind him - compared to say someone
>like Ed Rush ... AF's making a packet now as a hip hop producer ... good for
>him.

Well, Adam F is a guy who hopped into jungle/dnb for a little bit, made a few 
totally innovative tunes (for the time), and then hopped out as fast as he got 
in.  He just said "this 
is my intrepetation of what you guys are doing"I can respect that.  He 
brought some outside influences into the genre, which is usually a good thing.

I don't care too much, I don't necc love him or anything, there are people I'm 
way more into for jungle/dnb that deserve more of my respect, but he has way 
more integrity than 
say, Bad Company or Klute or any of those clowns..

:)

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[313] 313-FAQ

2002-01-25 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

> > No, Alex Reese has nothing to do with it. The name Reese 
> comes from Kevin
> > Saunderson nickname Reese, actualy he called himself Kevin 
> 'Master reese'
> > Saunderson (KMS).
> 
> 
> surely this should be in the FAQ, lol. did we ever settle on a FAQ?

This is what is on the [313]-website (geez, the 313-faq, that's almost
callisc 313 history:)):

http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/faq.html

I doubt if this is the good ol' FAQ Otto Koppius and Matt Macqueen where
making some years ago ;)

the website also says this as the the [313]-FAQ:

" For some historical perspective about the stated subject matter of the
list I encourage you to pick up a copy of Dan Sicko's book on the early days
of techno entitled Techno Rebels. Consider it the unabridged version of the
313 FAQ. "

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RE: RE: RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Name another Adam F classic, except Colours :o)? ... OK, I admit, he's the
guy people into DnB love to hate. Not always justifiably. But it's true that
he doesn't have much of a body of work behind him - compared to say someone
like Ed Rush ... AF's making a packet now as a hip hop producer ... good for
him.

>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:49 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; Odeluga, Ken
>Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: [313] inside out
>
>
>1/25/2002 6:46:36 AM, "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>u sure?
>
>Actually, I was worng, I just corrected myself.
>
>As it turns out, the tune that was sampled by all the jungle/dnb
>cats was "Just Want Another Chance"by Reese (aka kevvy
>saundy)still lookin for a sample of it, or an
>mp3...
>
>>Nearly all the young bass heads are in awe of Kevin Saunderson
>
>Well, I dunno about that  ;)
>
>>and
>>it's definitely him they mean when they say a Reese Bassline.
>Can't think of
>>any who actually admit to liking Alex Reese ... he's almost akin to Adam F
>>to them ... Did you know Alvin Stardust is Adam F's dad?
>
>Hey, Circles is a classic tune.  :)
>
>Who is Alvin Stardust?
>
>
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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread robin pinning
> 
> > "Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used 
> > that "wobble" type sound in 1994, I believe.
> > 
> > *useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*
> > 
> > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy  
> 
> No, Alex Reese has nothing to do with it. The name Reese comes from Kevin
> Saunderson nickname Reese, actualy he called himself Kevin 'Master reese'
> Saunderson (KMS).


surely this should be in the FAQ, lol. did we ever settle on a FAQ?


> 'Master Reese' is a spin of from his middle name,
> Maurice...

which is why my cat is known as maurice :)



robin...

ps. it's kevin sauderson not kevvy saundy! 


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RE: [313] Contact information for Jacek Sienkiewicz?

2002-01-25 Thread Dee Gregg
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> Subject: [313] Contact information for Jacek Sienkiewicz?
> 
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> I know his brother or relation comes on here.
> 
> appreciated,
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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread jkessler
on 1/25/02 6:43 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Oops. I said Martin. Sorry. I was closer than suggesting it was lame d n
> b'er Alex Reese though, so I can still hold my head up high ...

Well, IMO, Alex REECE has actually done some quite nice drum n' bass 
stuff like the classic Pulp Fiction. But hey, to each their own...

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Re: RE: RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread DJ Entropy
1/25/2002 6:46:36 AM, "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>u sure? 

Actually, I was worng, I just corrected myself.

As it turns out, the tune that was sampled by all the jungle/dnb cats was "Just 
Want Another Chance"by Reese (aka kevvy saundy)still lookin for a 
sample of it, or an 
mp3...

>Nearly all the young bass heads are in awe of Kevin Saunderson 

Well, I dunno about that  ;)

>and
>it's definitely him they mean when they say a Reese Bassline. Can't think of
>any who actually admit to liking Alex Reese ... he's almost akin to Adam F
>to them ... Did you know Alvin Stardust is Adam F's dad?

Hey, Circles is a classic tune.  :)

Who is Alvin Stardust?


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RE: RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
u sure? Nearly all the young bass heads are in awe of Kevin Saunderson and
it's definitely him they mean when they say a Reese Bassline. Can't think of
any who actually admit to liking Alex Reese ... he's almost akin to Adam F
to them ... Did you know Alvin Stardust is Adam F's dad?

>-Original Message-
>From: DJ Entropy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:18 AM
>To: '313@hyperreal.org'; Jongsma, K.J.
>Subject: Re: RE: Re: [313] inside out
>
>
>1/25/2002 6:19:25 AM, "Jongsma, K.J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> "Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used
>>> that "wobble" type sound in 1994, I believe.
>>>
>>> *useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*
>>>
>>> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
>>
>>No, Alex Reese has nothing to do with it. The name Reese comes from Kevin
>>Saunderson nickname Reese, actualy he called himself Kevin 'Master reese'
>>Saunderson (KMS). 'Master Reese' is a spin of from his middle name,
>>Maurice...
>
>Uh...
>
>The "Reese Bassline" that people were talking about in the
>jungle/dnb world does come from Alex Reese.
>
>I don't know if Kev Saundy ever made a bassline that was called
>the "Reese", but that is irrelavent, that's not what they were
>talking about.
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[313] Contact information for Jacek Sienkiewicz?

2002-01-25 Thread s mcgill
Anyone?

I know his brother or relation comes on here.

appreciated,
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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Oops. I said Martin. Sorry. I was closer than suggesting it was lame d n
b'er Alex Reese though, so I can still hold my head up high ...

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>> "Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used
>> that "wobble" type sound in 1994, I believe.
>>
>> *useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*
>>
>> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
>
>No, Alex Reese has nothing to do with it. The name Reese comes from Kevin
>Saunderson nickname Reese, actualy he called himself Kevin 'Master reese'
>Saunderson (KMS). 'Master Reese' is a spin of from his middle name,
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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Wrong. KMS was called 'Reese' much earlier.

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>1/25/2002 6:08:16 AM, robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> Pardon my ignorance but the drum and bass people around 5 years ago were
>>> all doing variations on a fat bassline sound, which they called a Reese
>>> bassline. Although pretty easy to synthesize, I think that a
>KMS record's
>>> bassline was widely sampled for this. I thought when I picked
>up 'bassline'
>>> that it would be that one, but I don't think so. Have I just
>invented this,
>>> or does someone know what I'm talking about?
>>
>>i know what yer talking aboutthe reese bassline is in vogue again
>>now. check anything by mr.sliff (a beyer alterego) or diabla by funk
>>d'void and by now a million other copyists
>
>"Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used that
>"wobble" type sound in 1994, I believe.
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>*useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*
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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Eh? Kevin 'Master Reese' Saunderson was the early nickname. Which in itself
is derived from his real middle name Kevin Martin Saunderson ... At last
somebody knows (a bit) less than me :o). Not anymore tho. :o(

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>but where did the name "reese bassline" come from?
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>>
>> Pardon my ignorance but the drum and bass people around 5 years ago were
>> all doing variations on a fat bassline sound, which they called a Reese
>> bassline. Although pretty easy to synthesize, I think that a KMS record's
>> bassline was widely sampled for this. I thought when I picked up
>'bassline'
>> that it would be that one, but I don't think so. Have I just invented
>this,
>> or does someone know what I'm talking about?
>
>i know what yer talking aboutthe reese bassline is in vogue again
>now. check anything by mr.sliff (a beyer alterego) or diabla by funk
>d'void and by now a million other copyists
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Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread tom churchill
> The "Reese Bassline" that people were talking about in the jungle/dnb world
> does come from Alex Reese.

Does it bollocks. It comes from Kevin 'Master Reese' Saunderson - a track
like 'Human Bond' is a good example of his use of the sound. Alex Reece
(note correct spelling of his surname) has absolutley nothing to do with
it...
 
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Re: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread Toby Frith
Djing reflects that sound - well when I've seen him - hence trax selection
like Mr Sliff, Oxia etc - still one of the best DJs I've seen.


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> i thought Kevin S was well known for the 'Hoover Bass' found on some of
the e-dancer tracks. Is this the same thing as the 'Reese Bass' ?
>
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> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: [313] The Reese bass
> >
> > HmI believe I stand corrected here, although I would like some
clarification on this.
> >
> > So the "Reese Bass" that was used in Jungle/DNB back in 1994 was sampled
from Kev Saundy?  I did some searching and this appears to be the case,
however, is it just a
> > coincidence that Alex Reese was floating around at this time in
Jungle/DNB, and he had nothing to do with it?
> >
> > That's really odd, because everyone I have ever known in the jungle/dnb
scene has thought the "Reese Bass" comes from Alex Reese...
> >
> > If this is the case, what is the name of Kev Saundy's tune where this
bass comes from, cause I'd like to hear it.
> >
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RE: [313] it's all over my face

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I know there were at least 2 complilations on the 'Garage last year or so
and from reading the listings they all contained 'Is it...' so 

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>Does anyone know whether Loose Joints' "It's all over my face" is easy
>enough to get hold of / on vinyl compilations etc. ?
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[313] Tonight in Chicago

2002-01-25 Thread Ken Meier
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gramaphone, interrupt media, and material present:

OLIVER HO @ rednofive

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out-of-the-ordinary dancefloor techno in recent years, investigating a
distinctive sound that fuses cut-up vocal samples with well-designed
percussion and dark textures.  as a solid 3-turntable jock, his dj skills
are also not to be discounted.  don't miss it!

with
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KARL (the fire) MEIER
MARKO KATIC (no static)
MANI MIGLANI (the urban turban)

mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] before 7 pm friday for reduced admission.
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RE: [313] Detroit 1992 - Flyer

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Not visible to everyone. Shame.

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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Probably been answered already but yes, it's the same Reese - (NOT Alex
Reese either!) I doubt it's necessary to sample it though - it's relatively
easy to produce I understand from my lil bro' with an er 808? Is
it? I'm sure I'll be told. n/eway, he says only a fool would sample it -
unless of course you don't have the required kit ... And of course now you
have soft emulators .. definitely not worth sampling.

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>
>Pardon my ignorance but the drum and bass people around 5 years ago were
>all doing variations on a fat bassline sound, which they called a Reese
>bassline. Although pretty easy to synthesize, I think that a KMS record's
>bassline was widely sampled for this. I thought when I picked up 'bassline'
>that it would be that one, but I don't think so. Have I just invented this,
>or does someone know what I'm talking about?
>Thanks
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>Subject:  Re: Re: [313] inside out
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>The Uk release on Network records of this on red vinyl had 'bassline' and
>'Funky, funk funk'
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>>
>> From: Niko Tzoukmanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Fri 25/Jan/2002 11:19 CET
>> To: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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>> isn't that bside track called
>> 'funky, funk, funk'
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>> At 05:04 25.01.02 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Reese   Bassline / Inside-Out   Fragile  FRG-04
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>> >B  Inside-Out
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Re: [313] RE: (313) RE: (313) stacey pullen - electric relaxation

2002-01-25 Thread s mcgill
I was disappointed to see Stacey in the backroom of the End a year ago.  It
was the Plus8 night with Mr C, Hawtin and Acquaviva in the other room.
Stacey was playing a slow jamming house set and more or less sitting down.

I was gutted at this point because I had gone all the way to see him
especially.  I remember seeing him in 95-97 play sets at Voodoo and he was
tearing it up.  Very different style of djing, all top end mixing so it was
like a watery sound just like his album in parts.  This is a lot harder to
mix like this as you can notice when the hats start to go out quicker than a
kick but he was always premier league.

Maybe he hasn't felt the need to perform as hard these days or suffering
from a change in direction but I certainly wouldn't write him off.

Fair enough though if you have seen him 4 times and he hasn't delivered for
u.

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> is Staceys release work good?
>
> his the shittiest DJ I've even gone to see 3-4 times
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> -Joe
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> > r&s still exists, latest releases afaik is
> > air frog 'bon voyage' with a remix by...
> > stacey pullen ;O)
> >
> > At 12:41 24.01.02 -, you wrote:
> > >Wow, the end of an era then. Best see if I can stil pick up that 'Ten
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> > >>I don't know why they did it, but one thing is sure: TMT-01, TMT-02
and
> > >>MS-19 & MS-20 will never get a repress...
> > >>You can get any transmat record nowadays, except for those four
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RE: [313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
i thought Kevin S was well known for the 'Hoover Bass' found on some of the 
e-dancer tracks. Is this the same thing as the 'Reese Bass' ? 

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> To:   313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:  [313] The Reese bass
> 
> HmI believe I stand corrected here, although I would like some 
> clarification on this.
> 
> So the "Reese Bass" that was used in Jungle/DNB back in 1994 was sampled from 
> Kev Saundy?  I did some searching and this appears to be the case, however, 
> is it just a 
> coincidence that Alex Reese was floating around at this time in Jungle/DNB, 
> and he had nothing to do with it?
> 
> That's really odd, because everyone I have ever known in the jungle/dnb scene 
> has thought the "Reese Bass" comes from Alex Reese...
> 
> If this is the case, what is the name of Kev Saundy's tune where this bass 
> comes from, cause I'd like to hear it.
> 
> 
> *learnsomethinneweveryday*
> 
> 
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[313] The Reese bass

2002-01-25 Thread DJ Entropy
HmI believe I stand corrected here, although I would like some 
clarification on this.

So the "Reese Bass" that was used in Jungle/DNB back in 1994 was sampled from 
Kev Saundy?  I did some searching and this appears to be the case, however, is 
it just a 
coincidence that Alex Reese was floating around at this time in Jungle/DNB, and 
he had nothing to do with it?

That's really odd, because everyone I have ever known in the jungle/dnb scene 
has thought the "Reese Bass" comes from Alex Reese...

If this is the case, what is the name of Kev Saundy's tune where this bass 
comes from, cause I'd like to hear it.


*learnsomethinneweveryday*


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Re: [313] song ID

2002-01-25 Thread s mcgill
It's Unterschrift by DC himself on Classic.

What a tune?  I thought it was Cal Craig at first as tehy have a similar
lilt to there voices.

SMc
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> about 10 mins in, gene farris mix on frequency detroit (thanks
> christian...).
>
> http://www.frequencydetroit.com/instructions/Gene_Farris1.htm
>
> it's a common one, Derrick Carter also plays it a lot. undulating piano
line
> and some guy talking over it "wherever I go, I'm always on the move..."
sort
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Re: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread s mcgill
also there is a Samuel L. Session record, I thnk Cycle number one.  On it
there is a typical Reese sounding tune.

The best for me though is the 100 not out ep by DJ Q on Filter records.  It
has been appropriately described as the best Kevin Saunderson tune not to be
done by Kevin Saunderson.  I had it but some bastard switched it at a gig
once - it's that good.
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Pardon my ignorance but the drum and bass people around 5 years ago were
all doing variations on a fat bassline sound, which they called a Reese
bassline. Although pretty easy to synthesize, I think that a KMS record's
bassline was widely sampled for this. I thought when I picked up 'bassline'
that it would be that one, but I don't think so. Have I just invented this,
or does someone know what I'm talking about?
Thanks




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Subject:  Re: Re: [313] inside out


The Uk release on Network records of this on red vinyl had 'bassline' and
'Funky, funk funk'


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> Date: Fri 25/Jan/2002 11:19 CET
> To: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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> Subject: Re: [313] inside out
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> isn't that bside track called
> 'funky, funk, funk'
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> At 05:04 25.01.02 -0500, you wrote:
> >Reese   Bassline / Inside-Out   Fragile  FRG-04
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> >A  Bassline
> >B  Inside-Out
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Re: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread robin pinning

> 
> but where did the name "reese bassline" come from?
> 


kevin "master reese" saunderson

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Re: RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread DJ Entropy
1/25/2002 6:19:25 AM, "Jongsma, K.J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> "Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used 
>> that "wobble" type sound in 1994, I believe.
>> 
>> *useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*
>> 
>> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy  
>
>No, Alex Reese has nothing to do with it. The name Reese comes from Kevin
>Saunderson nickname Reese, actualy he called himself Kevin 'Master reese'
>Saunderson (KMS). 'Master Reese' is a spin of from his middle name,
>Maurice...

Uh...

The "Reese Bassline" that people were talking about in the jungle/dnb world 
does come from Alex Reese.

I don't know if Kev Saundy ever made a bassline that was called the "Reese", 
but that is irrelavent, that's not what they were talking about.

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RE: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
... Pls also include the year. Cheers.

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>Could someone please mail me the tracklisting of the "inside out ep" from
>Kevin Saunderson (as reese) on Fragile?
>
>Thanx a lot,
>Maarten
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Re: [313] it's all over my face

2002-01-25 Thread jkessler
It was repressed recently on West End records. Should be easy enough 
to find. Awesome classic Garage jamm!

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RE: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

> "Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used 
> that "wobble" type sound in 1994, I believe.
> 
> *useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*
> 
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy  

No, Alex Reese has nothing to do with it. The name Reese comes from Kevin
Saunderson nickname Reese, actualy he called himself Kevin 'Master reese'
Saunderson (KMS). 'Master Reese' is a spin of from his middle name,
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[313] Detroit Grand Pubahs

2002-01-25 Thread Colette Lewis
Paris The Black Fu from the Detroit Grand Pubahs on Groovetech London today
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Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread jkessler
No, you're right... I think the track in question is Reese "Just Want Another 
Chance", originally released on Incognito.

on 1/25/02 5:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 
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> Pardon my ignorance but the drum and bass people around 5 years 
ago were
> all doing variations on a fat bassline sound, which they called a Reese
> bassline. Although pretty easy to synthesize, I think that a KMS record's
> bassline was widely sampled for this. I thought when I picked up 
'bassline'
> that it would be that one, but I don't think so. Have I just invented this,
> or does someone know what I'm talking about?
> Thanks
> 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 25/01/2002 10:29:59 AM
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> To:   "Niko Tzoukmanis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject:  Re: Re: [313] inside out
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> The Uk release on Network records of this on red vinyl had 'bassline' 
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> 'Funky, funk funk'
> 
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>> From: Niko Tzoukmanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Fri 25/Jan/2002 11:19 CET
>> To: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: [313] inside out
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>> isn't that bside track called
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>> At 05:04 25.01.02 -0500, you wrote:
>>> Reese   Bassline / Inside-Out   Fragile  FRG-04
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>>> B  Inside-Out
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Re: Re: [313] inside out

2002-01-25 Thread DJ Entropy
1/25/2002 6:08:16 AM, robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Pardon my ignorance but the drum and bass people around 5 years ago were
>> all doing variations on a fat bassline sound, which they called a Reese
>> bassline. Although pretty easy to synthesize, I think that a KMS record's
>> bassline was widely sampled for this. I thought when I picked up 'bassline'
>> that it would be that one, but I don't think so. Have I just invented this,
>> or does someone know what I'm talking about?
>
>i know what yer talking aboutthe reese bassline is in vogue again
>now. check anything by mr.sliff (a beyer alterego) or diabla by funk
>d'void and by now a million other copyists

"Reese", of course, coming from Alex Reese, who first used that "wobble" type 
sound in 1994, I believe.

*useless hardcore/jungle/dnb knowledge tidbit #8757345763*

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