Re: [Elecraft] OT: Butane soldering irons
Re: I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). That doesn't surprise me. I don't have experience with butane torches at altitude, but I have eaten far too many freeze dried dinners that were crunchy because, at altitude (8,500 ft. in my case), there wasn't enough oxygen in the air so that the flame from my friend's butane stove would heat the water hot enough to reconstitute the food. Cold temperatures affect butane stoves as well. Put high altitude together with cold temperatures and the result is crunchy noodles! (My old Svea white gas stove works well to 11,000 ft., even in the cold, but it has its own hazards). Mark, KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Butane soldering irons
This was exactly my experience on FD at a slightly higher altitude. I had a Bernz-o-matic unit that worked fine at home before and after, so I attributed it to the altitude. On 7/10/14 8:45 PM, Tim Elwell wrote: On 7/10/14 9:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote: This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? Not sure what make you have, but I have a cheap little Radio Shack model that I take from virtually sea level (600ft) to Breckenridge, CO (9600ft) every winter and use quite a bit while I'm there. I've never had any trouble with it, other than running out of butane. I bought a new tip for mine not long ago and it seems to have more trouble lightning than the original one. Other than that, though, it's been a workhorse for me at all elevations. -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
Greetings Wayne, Right on! Amen. God bless! Thomas Houston K6OKE -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:56 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA? Hi all, Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority is democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, head-counting, arm-wrestling-over-a-beer, and a healthy dose of what-we-have-time-for. It is not practical for us to publish the lists. They change daily and contain a lot of firmware-speak. We'd rather spend time actually making changes than on sanitizing lists for public consumption. This is also the reason that we can't make announcements of the form "We will not ever get to feature X." (Imagine trying to do that with your personal Home Repair task list. Would your spouse let you unilaterally decide to remove some of them?) We'd rather be optimistic about it, since you never know when one of our overworked engineers is going to get some unexpected free time. The most useful guidance I can give you is this. If only one or two users are affected by a particular change, it is less likely to be implemented in the near future. If nearly all users are affected, it darn well better be fixed instantly. Everything else is in a sort of gray zone (see "Determination of Priority," above). I take responsibility for any muttered oaths against Elecraft pertaining to implementation delays. If it's any comfort: I read all the mail and lose sleep over things we can't get to. All I can say is that we try to make the best decisions we can, given engineering time available. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to houston.tho...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] (K3) loose front panel microphone jack
Hello all, I noticed right before FD that my K3 front microphone jack is loose. I'm aware of the "washer" problem but think that was in earlier K3s. My K3 is ~ S/N 5400. So, two questions: 1) How difficult is it to get to the mounting nut to tighten? Is this a 1/2 hour job or are we talking about setting aside a couple of hours? Any helpful hints? 2) Any hints on how to prevent this from happening in the future? Lock-tite?? Is there a recommended torque spec the factory uses? I rarely operate phone and when I do I usually use the rear jacks. But I'd still like to get this fixed. -- 73, Gary K9GS Check out K9NS on the web: http://www.k9ns.com Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Butane soldering irons
On 7/10/14 9:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote: This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? Not sure what make you have, but I have a cheap little Radio Shack model that I take from virtually sea level (600ft) to Breckenridge, CO (9600ft) every winter and use quite a bit while I'm there. I've never had any trouble with it, other than running out of butane. I bought a new tip for mine not long ago and it seems to have more trouble lightning than the original one. Other than that, though, it's been a workhorse for me at all elevations. -- Tim KG1GEM Flower Mound, TX (Denton County) EM13lb __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
I greatly appreciate the work Wayne and others do to enhance existing products while developing new products. As for the squeaky wheel method of prioritization, I often refrain from sending "me too" e-mails when I see a feature or product request that interests me (such as the one from this thread). What's the best way to communicate that without flooding e-mails to the list? Tighe NK4I On 7/10/14, 8:55 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi all, Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority is democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, head-counting, arm-wrestling-over-a-beer, and a healthy dose of what-we-have-time-for. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Butane soldering irons
Might it have to do with the ambient temperature? Paul N6LL On 7/10/2014 7:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote: WARNING: OFF-TOPIC I carry a butane-powered soldering iron in my Field Day Go-box. Just in case. This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? Looks like I'll have to invest in a battery-powered soldering iron for next year. Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: Butane soldering irons
WARNING: OFF-TOPIC I carry a butane-powered soldering iron in my Field Day Go-box. Just in case. This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? Looks like I'll have to invest in a battery-powered soldering iron for next year. Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
understood and thank you for taking the time to reply Wayne. -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 7/10/2014 7:55 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi all, Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority is democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, head-counting, arm-wrestling-over-a-beer, and a healthy dose of what-we-have-time-for. It is not practical for us to publish the lists. They change daily and contain a lot of firmware-speak. We'd rather spend time actually making changes than on sanitizing lists for public consumption. This is also the reason that we can't make announcements of the form "We will not ever get to feature X." (Imagine trying to do that with your personal Home Repair task list. Would your spouse let you unilaterally decide to remove some of them?) We'd rather be optimistic about it, since you never know when one of our overworked engineers is going to get some unexpected free time. The most useful guidance I can give you is this. If only one or two users are affected by a particular change, it is less likely to be implemented in the near future. If nearly all users are affected, it darn well better be fixed instantly. Everything else is in a sort of gray zone (see "Determination of Priority," above). I take responsibility for any muttered oaths against Elecraft pertaining to implementation delays. If it's any comfort: I read all the mail and lose sleep over things we can't get to. All I can say is that we try to make the best decisions we can, given engineering time available. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
Hi all, Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority is democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, head-counting, arm-wrestling-over-a-beer, and a healthy dose of what-we-have-time-for. It is not practical for us to publish the lists. They change daily and contain a lot of firmware-speak. We'd rather spend time actually making changes than on sanitizing lists for public consumption. This is also the reason that we can't make announcements of the form "We will not ever get to feature X." (Imagine trying to do that with your personal Home Repair task list. Would your spouse let you unilaterally decide to remove some of them?) We'd rather be optimistic about it, since you never know when one of our overworked engineers is going to get some unexpected free time. The most useful guidance I can give you is this. If only one or two users are affected by a particular change, it is less likely to be implemented in the near future. If nearly all users are affected, it darn well better be fixed instantly. Everything else is in a sort of gray zone (see "Determination of Priority," above). I take responsibility for any muttered oaths against Elecraft pertaining to implementation delays. If it's any comfort: I read all the mail and lose sleep over things we can't get to. All I can say is that we try to make the best decisions we can, given engineering time available. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers
This is not a difficult problem to solve. First off, the MacBook Air is _not_ a netbook. Netbooks are defined by their low-power processors (typically Intel Atoms). The MacBook Air has a full multi-core Intel I5 processor, which means it can do real work. The best way to approach this is to look for a USB video input device, such as those from El Gato, which can input video to the Mac. From there, just use the El Gato application to display the video, or save it to disk. I don’t know if El Gato has a VGA-capable converter, but I do know they have devices that can input other video formats such as those common to current TVs and DVRs. I believe their URL is www.elgato.com or something similar. You may have to search for a suitable device that does VGA, and I suspect it won’t be inexpensive. Still, worth the effort. I would expect the conversion task to take a notable amount of processor horsepower since much of the conversion occurs inside the Mac. This means that that extra horsepower you get because the MacBook Air is _not_ a netbook will be very useful. You might also want to look at an alternate solution - an external monitor that the P3 and the MacBook Air can feed. While this solution means that you can only see one or the other video sources at a time, it might actually be less expensive. Jack B, W6FB On Jul 10, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > A week or two ago I posted this question: Would it be possible to have > the P3's SVGA output displayed on the screen of a MacAir computer, and > have a logging program resident on the same computer, and be able to > toggle between the two with a simple computer keyboard stroke? Neat trick > for contesting if there's no room for dual monitors, eh? > > The simple answer (but see below) turns out to be no - with some dongling > older Macs could operate as "dumb" monitors but newer ones (like my > MacAir) cannot, a fact I had confirmed by a tech at the local Apple store. > I was told that only the 27" monitor (too big for my space) might be able > to do that, and maybe it couldn't either. > > I was referred by a member of this reflector (thank you) to a > computer-consultant friend of his, from whom I learned that there was no > direct way to do it but that it could be done if the P3's SVGA output > could be made into the electronic equivalent of an Internet web site. > Moreover, he said, that should be possible using something called > "Raspberry Pi." > > Right. For an EE or computer expert, maybe; but not for a Liberal Arts > sort of guy. Even my Internet research about "Raspberry Pi" was > entertaining but incomprehensible. But that aside, does anyone know of a > way to feed the P3 output into a server sort of thing and have it come out > as something that will fool the MacAir into thinking it's a web site, > hence toggleable vis-a-vis the resident logging program? > > If it turns out to be patentable I'm willing to share the royalties . . . > > Ted, KN1CBR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers
Although Raspberry Pi is indeed a Linux system, the cpu is not Intel so any of the software that is available for Linux must be built from sources on the Raspberry Pi system (unless it is provided by rPI's distro). Not every ham radio operator is equipped to build large complicated applications from sources. Even though various Linux distros make this easy, it does not mean that everything is easy. So, to get a package buildable on Raspberry Pi Linux may require a bit more programming and Linux/Unix/GNU knowledge than typically held by the everyday ham. This includes fooling around with the configure script or at worse making source changes to the software. Plus, there are some available Linux packages that may require language compilers that are not available on the Raspberry Pi distro. 73, phil, K7PEH - 15 years of Linux development experience - 30 years of Unix development experience - 45 years as a professional programmer - But, I admit to less than 1 year of rpi development experience On Jul 10, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > I don't know what a MacAir is, I've pretty much managed to avoid the iWorld. > I can tell you about the Raspberry Pi [and others] however. > > Raspberry Pi [and Beagle Bone, and several others] are tiny little processor > boards with weird names that run some flavor of LINUX, and thus will run > LINUX-based applications, a great number of which speak Internet/Web. You > can do a great deal with them because of that. > > I built a 40-station irrigation controller for my wife using the Hamstack > components [hamstack.com] based on a Microchip PIC. Aside from using their > and Microchip C libraries, I had to write all the functional code in the PIC > myself. > > The Hamstack guys [who I know quite well] have now added Beagle Bone and > maybe Raspberry Pi to their line, which allows you to capitalize on already > created applications and modules. > > Hope this helps. I wouldn't be holding my breath for royalties, however. :-)) > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > - www.cqp.org > > On 7/10/2014 1:15 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > >> Right. For an EE or computer expert, maybe; but not for a Liberal Arts >> sort of guy. Even my Internet research about "Raspberry Pi" was >> entertaining but incomprehensible. But that aside, does anyone know of a >> way to feed the P3 output into a server sort of thing and have it come out >> as something that will fool the MacAir into thinking it's a web site, >> hence toggleable vis-a-vis the resident logging program? > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers
I thought about this problem for a few minutes a few months ago. Decided it was not worth the hassle. Therefore, if I want a larger screen for the P3 then I would use an SVGA monitor that could be bought for $50 to $150 depending on lots of variables. But, if you want full rig control (logging at least) on a Mac then the there are a handful of products that do that but they do not include panadapter features (as far as I know). As someone has suggested, you could possible use a frame grabber which would take the SVGA output of the P3/SVGA and then display the results with a suitable app on your mac but that seems to be going way overboard and I am betting with less than excellent results. Fast real-time response on the P3 screen may be difficult with a frame grabber approach. I think there could be a great "market" (although likely free software) for a good Mac interface to a K3 or KX3 that is akin to something like the Flex Radio PC software. This would require something different then a P3, the LP-Pan type solution instead of a P3, but the KX3 could interface directly with its I/Q output. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jul 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, tom armour wrote: > Why not just look at the P3 display? Don't you need that to have the P3 > SVGA? I don't have a P3. > What about using a Softrock Lite IF to a USB sound card on the Macbook Air? > The Softrock Lite is about $22 but you have to build it. You could also get > a LP-Pan2, but you already have the P3 so you may not want to do that. > A quick google search turned up > this:http://www.epiphan.com/products/frame-grabbers/vga2usb/ > It is $299 list price, but there should be other less expensive vga-to-usb > devices that can be used on a Mac. > Hope that gives you a place to start. Although I may not be understanding > what you are asking al. I do have a Softrock light IF to a sound card on my > Windows PC. I have not tried it to my Macbook Pro, but that is a company > machine. > Tom - wa4ta > >> From: eda...@law.du.edu >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:15:43 + >> Subject: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers >> >> A week or two ago I posted this question: Would it be possible to have >> the P3's SVGA output displayed on the screen of a MacAir computer, and >> have a logging program resident on the same computer, and be able to >> toggle between the two with a simple computer keyboard stroke? Neat trick >> for contesting if there's no room for dual monitors, eh? >> >> The simple answer (but see below) turns out to be no - with some dongling >> older Macs could operate as "dumb" monitors but newer ones (like my >> MacAir) cannot, a fact I had confirmed by a tech at the local Apple store. >> I was told that only the 27" monitor (too big for my space) might be able >> to do that, and maybe it couldn't either. >> >> I was referred by a member of this reflector (thank you) to a >> computer-consultant friend of his, from whom I learned that there was no >> direct way to do it but that it could be done if the P3's SVGA output >> could be made into the electronic equivalent of an Internet web site. >> Moreover, he said, that should be possible using something called >> "Raspberry Pi." >> >> Right. For an EE or computer expert, maybe; but not for a Liberal Arts >> sort of guy. Even my Internet research about "Raspberry Pi" was >> entertaining but incomprehensible. But that aside, does anyone know of a >> way to feed the P3 output into a server sort of thing and have it come out >> as something that will fool the MacAir into thinking it's a web site, >> hence toggleable vis-a-vis the resident logging program? >> >> If it turns out to be patentable I'm willing to share the royalties . . . >> >> Ted, KN1CBR >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wa...@hotmail.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-arc
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
for clarification, perhaps I should point out that the only "must supply(s)" that was even intimated in my comments... were based on the fact that Wayne has *SAID* he/they planned to *attempt* to implement these further firmware enhancements for their already awesome hardware. If, as you say, that has been determined to be "commercially unrealistic" Then to that I would reply, if they can't, don't intend to, or have changed their minds about it's feasibility, great, no problem, so be it, just inform us, don't continue to string us along after command decisions to the contrary have been decided. However I do *NOT* think that is what Wayne and Eric have decided, nor do I think that is what they are doing. (imo) I have the idea, they have just bitten off more than they can chew, with the staff they now employ, so why not consider contracting out some of these promised or unfinished coding changes so they can catch up. -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 7/10/2014 5:29 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Well, I would call that maybe harsh, and for sure commercially unrealistic. We do not pay for firmware changes, while Wayne's employees have to be paid every week, the rent paid every month, etc. ad nauseum. So, even though there was a lot of improvement needed from version zero of the K3, we are far on the other side of having the K3 quite good enough to sell as is. A K3 firmware change entirely for the K3 only has become pretty rare. Most are integration work for the entire K-Line. We have gotten as much as we have because we supplied the hard testing and allowed a gradual implementation. Wayne has followed a change regimen that provided an amazing collection of improvements. He certainly leveraged all that into the KX3 Myself, I can't honestly think that Wayne owes me anything at all. If he does throw out some stuff, that's really neat. But at this point anything else he does for the K3 is far beyond the call of duty. No other ham manufacturer is even in the same order of magnitude as Elecraft responsiveness. I can wish and make polite, respectful requests. But IMHO to insinuate that Wayne has some remaining unfulfilled duty to the K3 that he *must* supply is unrealistic at best. 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers
Why not just look at the P3 display? Don't you need that to have the P3 SVGA? I don't have a P3. What about using a Softrock Lite IF to a USB sound card on the Macbook Air? The Softrock Lite is about $22 but you have to build it. You could also get a LP-Pan2, but you already have the P3 so you may not want to do that. A quick google search turned up this:http://www.epiphan.com/products/frame-grabbers/vga2usb/ It is $299 list price, but there should be other less expensive vga-to-usb devices that can be used on a Mac. Hope that gives you a place to start. Although I may not be understanding what you are asking al. I do have a Softrock light IF to a sound card on my Windows PC. I have not tried it to my Macbook Pro, but that is a company machine. Tom - wa4ta > From: eda...@law.du.edu > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:15:43 + > Subject: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers > > A week or two ago I posted this question: Would it be possible to have > the P3's SVGA output displayed on the screen of a MacAir computer, and > have a logging program resident on the same computer, and be able to > toggle between the two with a simple computer keyboard stroke? Neat trick > for contesting if there's no room for dual monitors, eh? > > The simple answer (but see below) turns out to be no - with some dongling > older Macs could operate as "dumb" monitors but newer ones (like my > MacAir) cannot, a fact I had confirmed by a tech at the local Apple store. > I was told that only the 27" monitor (too big for my space) might be able > to do that, and maybe it couldn't either. > > I was referred by a member of this reflector (thank you) to a > computer-consultant friend of his, from whom I learned that there was no > direct way to do it but that it could be done if the P3's SVGA output > could be made into the electronic equivalent of an Internet web site. > Moreover, he said, that should be possible using something called > "Raspberry Pi." > > Right. For an EE or computer expert, maybe; but not for a Liberal Arts > sort of guy. Even my Internet research about "Raspberry Pi" was > entertaining but incomprehensible. But that aside, does anyone know of a > way to feed the P3 output into a server sort of thing and have it come out > as something that will fool the MacAir into thinking it's a web site, > hence toggleable vis-a-vis the resident logging program? > > If it turns out to be patentable I'm willing to share the royalties . . . > > Ted, KN1CBR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers
The "Mac Air" is a laptop. properly known as a MacBook Air. It's the 'netbook' variant of the laptops. As Far as I know, there is no way to use the internal display of a MacBook to display anything other than the OS or an application. That applies to anything with a display in it that Apple makes. 73, Joshua Gould K8WXA EM89pn On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > I don't know what a MacAir is, I've pretty much managed to avoid the > iWorld. I can tell you about the Raspberry Pi [and others] however. > > Raspberry Pi [and Beagle Bone, and several others] are tiny little > processor boards with weird names that run some flavor of LINUX, and thus > will run LINUX-based applications, a great number of which speak > Internet/Web. You can do a great deal with them because of that. > > I built a 40-station irrigation controller for my wife using the Hamstack > components [hamstack.com] based on a Microchip PIC. Aside from using > their and Microchip C libraries, I had to write all the functional code in > the PIC myself. > > The Hamstack guys [who I know quite well] have now added Beagle Bone and > maybe Raspberry Pi to their line, which allows you to capitalize on already > created applications and modules. > > Hope this helps. I wouldn't be holding my breath for royalties, however. > :-)) > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > - www.cqp.org > > > On 7/10/2014 1:15 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > > Right. For an EE or computer expert, maybe; but not for a Liberal Arts >> sort of guy. Even my Internet research about "Raspberry Pi" was >> entertaining but incomprehensible. But that aside, does anyone know of a >> way to feed the P3 output into a server sort of thing and have it come out >> as something that will fool the MacAir into thinking it's a web site, >> hence toggleable vis-a-vis the resident logging program? >> > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jg.k8...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] DESK MICROPHONES FOR K3
When I was in college, I had a few friends who were involved in the local AM and FM broadcasting scene. I didn't need anyone to tell me that I didn't have a good "radio voice," so I got involved in the engineering side of the house. So, getting the optimal mic, and making the optimal equalization settings, would be of limited value in my case. It's sort of like my photography efforts - expensive camera and lenses with a poor photographer behind the camera. If I shoot a good photo, it's purely by accident. Besides, I've loved CW since day one (note callsign). 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 7/9/2014 11:19 AM, Ray Sills wrote: I have to agree with Phil on this. I am by no means a crackerjack CW operator. But, I find with my KX3, that most of the time I operate CW. It just gives me more "bang for the buck" when running 5 watts with my KX3. I have the MH3 mic, and have used it now and then. In the past (QRO days) I did more voice operating. But, for me, the goal here is to have intelligible audio, and there is little value in transmitting any frequencies lower than 200 Hz. You're better off generating RF that excludes those "low" frequencies. Still, it is handy to have an on-board equalizer, so that you can make some tweaks to the audio response -for your individual voice-. I used to work in broadcasting, both radio and television, so I understand that it's desirable for broadcast media to have a "full bandwidth" audio sound. But, the fact is, that even with broadcasting, we would make individual adjustments -for each person- who was using a mic, so as to "make them sound good".. which was and still is a personal decision made by the audio operator. The good audio operators, know how to adjust their audio mixing consoles to optimize the sound, and how it "sits" in the mix. It's more an art, than a science. And, one of the concerns when adjusting things was "how would this audio sound on a TV or radio with a small speaker". Those types of operators are referred to as having "golden ears", since they made the audio sound good on tiny speakers, as well as high quality audiophile speakers. So, I also prefer broadcast audio for broadcasting, and communications audio for communicating. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
Well, I would call that maybe harsh, and for sure commercially unrealistic. We do not pay for firmware changes, while Wayne's employees have to be paid every week, the rent paid every month, etc. ad nauseum. So, even though there was a lot of improvement needed from version zero of the K3, we are far on the other side of having the K3 quite good enough to sell as is. A K3 firmware change entirely for the K3 only has become pretty rare. Most are integration work for the entire K-Line. We have gotten as much as we have because we supplied the hard testing and allowed a gradual implementation. Wayne has followed a change regimen that provided an amazing collection of improvements. He certainly leveraged all that into the KX3 Myself, I can't honestly think that Wayne owes me anything at all. If he does throw out some stuff, that's really neat. But at this point anything else he does for the K3 is far beyond the call of duty. No other ham manufacturer is even in the same order of magnitude as Elecraft responsiveness. I can wish and make polite, respectful requests. But IMHO to insinuate that Wayne has some remaining unfulfilled duty to the K3 that he *must* supply is unrealistic at best. 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers
I don't know what a MacAir is, I've pretty much managed to avoid the iWorld. I can tell you about the Raspberry Pi [and others] however. Raspberry Pi [and Beagle Bone, and several others] are tiny little processor boards with weird names that run some flavor of LINUX, and thus will run LINUX-based applications, a great number of which speak Internet/Web. You can do a great deal with them because of that. I built a 40-station irrigation controller for my wife using the Hamstack components [hamstack.com] based on a Microchip PIC. Aside from using their and Microchip C libraries, I had to write all the functional code in the PIC myself. The Hamstack guys [who I know quite well] have now added Beagle Bone and maybe Raspberry Pi to their line, which allows you to capitalize on already created applications and modules. Hope this helps. I wouldn't be holding my breath for royalties, however. :-)) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 7/10/2014 1:15 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: Right. For an EE or computer expert, maybe; but not for a Liberal Arts sort of guy. Even my Internet research about "Raspberry Pi" was entertaining but incomprehensible. But that aside, does anyone know of a way to feed the P3 output into a server sort of thing and have it come out as something that will fool the MacAir into thinking it's a web site, hence toggleable vis-a-vis the resident logging program? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
I have worked at a technology company for many years and there is always a tension between coming out with the new and nifty product and improving the old product. You have to balance keeping your current customers satisfied with breaking into new markets and acquiring new customers. Yes, us K3 owners can always want more. But, looking at the initial K3 and what it has today, the ability to keep getting replacement parts, and the personal support we get on such an "old" product, I have to give Elecraft congratulations on how well they do. If I had bought a competitor's product when the K3 came out, more than likely, I would have whatever was delivered. With the K3, not only were improvements made over the years, I could upgrade and/or install those improvements as they came out. Someday, the K4 will come out and I know I will have some envy. But I am still very thrilled with the value that has been delivered today and I continue to expect some incremental improvements in the future however slow they are delivered. Eric wb7sde On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 12:53 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: > amen > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SVGA-future-firmware-updates-for-K3-P3-SVGA-tp7591062p7591065.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to e...@evross.com -- Eric Ross __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Update on a Question About the P3 SVGA and Mac Computers
A week or two ago I posted this question: Would it be possible to have the P3's SVGA output displayed on the screen of a MacAir computer, and have a logging program resident on the same computer, and be able to toggle between the two with a simple computer keyboard stroke? Neat trick for contesting if there's no room for dual monitors, eh? The simple answer (but see below) turns out to be no - with some dongling older Macs could operate as "dumb" monitors but newer ones (like my MacAir) cannot, a fact I had confirmed by a tech at the local Apple store. I was told that only the 27" monitor (too big for my space) might be able to do that, and maybe it couldn't either. I was referred by a member of this reflector (thank you) to a computer-consultant friend of his, from whom I learned that there was no direct way to do it but that it could be done if the P3's SVGA output could be made into the electronic equivalent of an Internet web site. Moreover, he said, that should be possible using something called "Raspberry Pi." Right. For an EE or computer expert, maybe; but not for a Liberal Arts sort of guy. Even my Internet research about "Raspberry Pi" was entertaining but incomprehensible. But that aside, does anyone know of a way to feed the P3 output into a server sort of thing and have it come out as something that will fool the MacAir into thinking it's a web site, hence toggleable vis-a-vis the resident logging program? If it turns out to be patentable I'm willing to share the royalties . . . Ted, KN1CBR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Vedr: [KX3] KX3 Companion, does it work?
I have installed the latest updates, but the App still hangs up after TX in PSK31 mode, is happens both on my Samsung Tab 2 and on my Sony Xperia Z, and with 4 different OTG's.:-( Martin Storli LA8OKA Oslo, Norway ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm Fra: "Andrea IU4APC iu4...@yahoo.com [KX3]" Til: "k...@yahoogroups.com" Kopi: Elecraft Reflector Sendt: Torsdag, 26. juni 2014 13.23 Emne: Re: [KX3] KX3 Companion, does it work? Hi Martin, are you using the latest version? Free or Full version? Which version of Android are you running? Are you using the external PA? About sending... are you using the SEND or XMIT mode? In any case... later today I'll release an updated version dedicated to Field Day with improvements on the logging side. More about it later. 73, Andrea IU4APC http://kx3companion.com/ Il giorno 26/giu/2014, alle ore 12:50, Martin Storli - LA8OKA arcticp...@yahoo.no [KX3] ha scritto: > >Have anybody got the KX3 Companion App for Android to work? >http://kx3companion.com/ >I downloaded the app and tryed it, but the app locks up i after TX. > >Also, the App has a 4 seconds delay after the last text is sent, and there >doesn't seem to be possible to adjust this delay. > >Due to these flaws, the app is unusable for me. > >I have tryed the both with my Sony Xperia Z phone and my Samsung Tab 2 7" and >with 4 different OTG cables, and the app locks up after TX on all devices. > >Have anybody else got the KX3 Companion app to work OK? > >Martin Storli >LA8OKA >Oslo, Norway > >ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! >http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm > > __._,_.___ Posted by: Andrea IU4APC Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (2) Visit Your Group* New Members 17* New Photos 6 • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
amen -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SVGA-future-firmware-updates-for-K3-P3-SVGA-tp7591062p7591065.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 to Rigblaster Advantage
By trial and error I figured out the hook up and it works great... Kyle N4NSS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A Good Antenna Length?
Thank you for all the input. Antennas are a fun thing to talk about and something every one seams to enjoy and building their own, like I do. I had many wires antennas in the last 46 years. I am still learning. One thing I have not done is get a computer program for my Apple Computer and an antenna analyzer with software for it. So I do every thing trial and error. So far I found that the KX3 and KXPA100 internal tuner seams to be as good or better than the MFJ 989B that I had for many years. there were 2 tuners that were as good or better than this back in the day. Tuners have not changed much since then except for the introduction of auto tuners. I have a MFJ 998RT that I blew up on 160M with 500 watts MFJ replaced it for free. They shipped me a new one and I have not even opened the box. With that said, I have been searching for that antenna that will tune 160-6 meters and found out on this forum it does not exist. I never attempted to do this type of search. I now know why Wayne had stated that in Digest 123 Issue 6 about 3rd harmonics on the same coax. Jim Borwn comments are words of wisdom to stand by. I try to stay away from baluns as much as possible. Hairpin matches seams to be the best route, and I had proved that with tests on and spots on RBN. I have to go to work now and will be gone for a couple of days and I know I can add more to this. Took me a while to go through all the comments, and I had forgotten some of them. so my apologies for not mentioning them. Thank you for all your help. -- Jim K9TF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 P3 SVGA - ?future firmware updates for K3/P3/SVGA?
first let me say to Wayne, this is not a spur of the moment, 'should have waited over night to cool off' email. I have been biting my tongue/fingers over this for a very long time. After reading the recent [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA thread, I felt it is as good a time as any to ask a few questions of the folks at Elecraft. first a rhetorical question or two to set the tone, hi hi 1st Is there any guesstimate when/if Elecraft's firmware engineers will stop tweaking *ONLY* the new Elecraft hardware products? 2nd ...and be allowed to refocus on firmware promises made over the previous many months/year(s) for the K3/P3/SVGA what promises you may ask? ... check out the 'many' requests Wayne says he has on his 'to do' list. I haven't kept track of all of them, (I'm sure the ones I want may differ from others wishes) but Wayne often says he has a list of 'good ideas' that will be (or at least considered for) implementation in the future, maybe he will share with us what is actually on that list? My fear is that Elecraft may have reached critical mass, like many other excellent small companies, that were great when they started, only to grow and become so well known, that they were unable to keep up with the expansions of their products and their reputations started to suffer. Why do I say such blasphemous things about the company whose products and services I am truly in awe of? Because this dangerous downhill trend I'm speaking of, first becomes evident as shown by the companies inability/failure to keep promises made in their earlier years when they were building their reputations. will I switch companies, never! am I a kool aid drinker, always and forever! However, am I kinda tired of waiting for promises made, as I watch all the 'new stuff' getting all the attention, you betcha! Yes I understand new stuff will have bugs and will need special attention and the new owners of those products also deserve all the attention we K3/P3/SVGA owners used to enjoy. Do I bad mouth you products to others asking about buying Elecraft, no I still speak well of their performance. But I have noticed my enthusiasm when recommending your products has taken a notable shift. I use to have the highest of praise for *every aspect* of Elecraft, the Hardware, the Service and the Firmware. Lately I have dropped off mentioning how awesome your quick firmware updates are and have to catch myself to be sure not to go off on a rant about the problems we are having these days with shelved requests and delayed promises. all I'm saying is maybe it's time to reinvest some of that 'new product monies' that is taking so much of your current time and energies, back into the company and hire some more software engineers if the burden of support for your mature products is suffering as badly as it is now. That is if you want to turn around the declining trend we see now, and not be perceived as changing modes to 'riding on your former reputation' like many other past companies did, that cost them their reputations. The 'we'll get around to it' responce, is getting extremely old! my apologize for adding to your burden Wayne and the rest of the crew, but perhaps you need to hear how some of us among your loyal followers are feeling out here, if that's what it takes to get you to change back to the company you use to be. signed NOT A TROLL! -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 to Rigblaster Advantage
Having problems with connecting my K3 to the Rigblaster Advantage for PSK-31 etc. I did it once but forgot to write it down. Anyone out there give me details on the connections? Please go direct to: n4...@yahoo.com Kyle N4NSS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
Using the latest beta firmware for the P3 the NB "does not" apply to the SVGA screen. It only works on the built in P3 display. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SVGA-tp7591050p7591060.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
Having the K3 NOT display the decoded text in the VFO B area is really a point for Wayne. I'll forward that request to him. When the P3/SVGA is showing decoded text, it's doing nothing more than periodically sending "TB" commands to the K3. Regarding the noise blanker. If you're talking about the NB feature in the P3, the plan is to add that feature to the SVGA firmware as well. Otherwise the IF output from the K3 is coming from the 1st mixer as Joe pointed out. -Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SVGA-tp7591050p7591059.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [KX3] Effectiveness of CW decode functionality
I tried out the CW decode functionality on the KX3 for several evenings and I'm struggling to get very positive results. Basically, unless the received CW signal is peaking close to s9 and the noise is s1 or less then decoding seems unreliable. If the signal drops towards the noise then everything just falls apart. I've tried various settings of threshold, pre amp On/Off, RX bandwidth etc., but I'm struggling to get successful results. Can anyone tell me what to expect in terms of performance, and what might be the ideal settings for best reception? The reason I've been trying this is because I've paired my KX3 with KX3 Companion, a Samsung Tab 3 8.0, an OGT cable, plus the data cable that came with the KX3. I've been able to remotely control many features of the radio, send CW and use up to 20 canned message macros, as well as direct input from the keyboard. KX3 Companion also has a logging capability and polls required information from the rig (freq, time, mode). While the KX3 Companion is not 100% perfect yet, with a little more development it could be a very powerful add-on to the radio. If you're interested in this sort of thing I would definitely give it a try. Please note the KX Companion required USB Hosting on the mobile device - the Samsung Tab 3 7.0 does not support this. The Tab 3 8.0 and 10.1 do. 73's Gary K6YOA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
That is because the P3 is fed from the output of the first mixer - *before* the narrow filter, IF noise blanker gate and before the DSP noise blanker. Of course, one can upgrade to the most recent beta firmware an enable the *separate* DSP noise blanking in the P3 SVGA. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-07-10 10:44 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: Also when thinking about getting a P3 and SVGA card what you see on the P3 is not what you see on the SVGA monitor if you turn on the NB. The weak signals are covered up by the noise on the SVGA screen. The NB works great but is not carried over to the SVGA screen. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SVGA-tp7591050p7591056.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
Also when thinking about getting a P3 and SVGA card what you see on the P3 is not what you see on the SVGA monitor if you turn on the NB. The weak signals are covered up by the noise on the SVGA screen. The NB works great but is not carried over to the SVGA screen. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SVGA-tp7591050p7591056.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
I totally agree with N7US. It sure would be nice to just preserve VFO B, and let the decode flow to the other devices. Jim ... K8CXM -- From: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:09 AM To: "Dick Dievendorff" ; "Elecraft" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA Thanks Dick! Not the answer I was hoping to hear, but it makes sense now that I think about it. So, the K3 utility terminal screen is the same as what as seen on a P3/SVGA. I've should have thought that out, but sometimes getting older doesn't always make it easy. You answered my question, but probably no P3/SVGA card/LCD in my future. It's pretty, but with my limited RTTY/PSK usage, not necessary to me. The P3 does what I need it to do, and 'fits' on my desk. 73 ... and Thanks! Jim ... K8CXM -- From: "Dick Dievendorff" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:00 AM To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" Cc: "Elecraft" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its Terminal page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in K3 firmware. 73 de Dick, K6KR On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" wrote: Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! 73 ... Jim Bob Buckeye AKA Jim Leder K8CXM since 1961 IBM retiree since 1999 There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary and those who don't. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
I understand that the K3 is doing the decoding, but does that mean that it must be presented in the VFO B area? 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its Terminal page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in K3 firmware. 73 de Dick, K6KR > On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" wrote: > > Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. > > I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. > > Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? > > BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! > > 73 ... > Jim Bob Buckeye >AKA > Jim Leder >K8CXM since 1961 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
Thanks Dick! Not the answer I was hoping to hear, but it makes sense now that I think about it. So, the K3 utility terminal screen is the same as what as seen on a P3/SVGA. I've should have thought that out, but sometimes getting older doesn't always make it easy. You answered my question, but probably no P3/SVGA card/LCD in my future. It's pretty, but with my limited RTTY/PSK usage, not necessary to me. The P3 does what I need it to do, and 'fits' on my desk. 73 ... and Thanks! Jim ... K8CXM -- From: "Dick Dievendorff" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:00 AM To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" Cc: "Elecraft" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its Terminal page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in K3 firmware. 73 de Dick, K6KR On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" wrote: Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! 73 ... Jim Bob Buckeye AKA Jim Leder K8CXM since 1961 IBM retiree since 1999 There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary and those who don't. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
I would like to echo Jim's request. I have the SVGA in my P3, and it's really nice, but I don't like losing the VFO B readout when I'm decoding RTTY. It makes no sense to have a few characters being decoded on the K3 when hundreds of characters can be on the SVGA monitor. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! 73 ... Jim Bob Buckeye AKA Jim Leder K8CXM since 1961 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its Terminal page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in K3 firmware. 73 de Dick, K6KR > On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" wrote: > > Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on > the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the > K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time > send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the > the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's > involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. > > I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty > much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card > without the above stated ability. > > Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I > thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? > > BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in > 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of > gear! > > 73 ... > Jim Bob Buckeye >AKA > Jim Leder >K8CXM since 1961 > IBM retiree since 1999 > > There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary > and those who don't. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA
Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! 73 ... Jim Bob Buckeye AKA Jim Leder K8CXM since 1961 IBM retiree since 1999 There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary and those who don't. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
