Re: Corrupt NVRAM?

[Graham Welland]

I would fully expect that your battery is beyond rejuvenation if it's been
used full time as a desktop. In general I recommend to folks to remove the
battery from the machine if it's likely to be used in this way as it kills
batteries in my experience. A new/spare battery needn't be that expensive or
hard to find.

It would probably be well worth resetting your NVRAM anyway - you've got
nothing to lose so long as you are on power.

Graham

On 6/13/05 7:54 PM, "dan_A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Listas
> 
> I have Ti-Book 800MHz with 1gig of RAM, and a 155 GB firewire hd
> attached. I'm running 10.4.1. I've been using this machine as a
> desktop unit, always on and plugged in. I probably killed the battery
> that way but ever since I installed Tiger, I can't restart or shut
> down without forcing those functions. I unplugged the charger to see
> how long the battery would go for... the battery shows 98% to 100%
> charge all the time... but when I unplug the charger I get about 7
> minutes of battery time and then it reads 0. I'm wondering if these 2
> symptoms indicate corrupted NVRAM. The fact that it no longer
> completes a shutdown is what makes me think so. The battery may still
> have some ability to recharge if I reset the PMU. Anyone have any
> thoughts on this? Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> 
> dan_A
> 



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Re:

[gladys pérez-almiroty]

no, just me.
On Jun 14, 2005, at 1:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gladys,

Hmm, do you have multiple user accounts on that Pismo?

Scott



Subject: Re: tiger, pismo and hp
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:36:05 -0400

scott:
i went from 10.3.9 to 10.4.1. i repaired preferences before and after
the install. in panther you had the "usb" option, but in tiger all i
am getting is the hp ip option. the printer is not recognized. on the
other had, the samsung laser works perfectly. i tried the linix
drivers with no change.
help!
g






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[sacear3]

Gladys,

Hmm, do you have multiple user accounts on that Pismo?

Scott


Subject: Re: tiger, pismo and hp
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:36:05 -0400

scott:
i went from 10.3.9 to 10.4.1. i repaired preferences before and after
the install. in panther you had the "usb" option, but in tiger all i
am getting is the hp ip option. the printer is not recognized. on the
other had, the samsung laser works perfectly. i tried the linix
drivers with no change.
help!
g



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Re: Windows characters??

[sacear3]

John, or jb (if you prefer):

The Text Encoding setting in your email program needs to be changed. 
The setting seems to be set to "windows-1252" and needs to be set to 
"ISO-8859-1." If you are using Mail, then Text Encoding is the last 
item under the Message menu. Set it to Default.


Also, this list will not accept Rich Text Format (rtf). I think it 
accepts Plain Text only. Under the Format menu select Make Plain Text 
before sending.

Hope that helps.

Scott



From: John Bertram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows characters??
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:48:01 -0400

Have tried several times to post a new topic, but keep getting the
following rejection:



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I copied the text of the message from a TextEdit rtf file, and just
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Re: intel inside stickers and Apple branding (was "Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!")

[sacear3]

Bruce,

That was a good article, thanks for posting that link. Which company 
will benefit from branding is interesting to think about. I think both 
can benefit if they respect each other and not try to rip each other 
off (and not put "intel inside" stickers on the front or top of Macs!). 
Which brings up a question: Would Mac buyers settle for the Intel 
sticker on the back or bottom of a Mac or PowerBook? How about on the 
cardboard packing box?


I have been reading about Intel's new CEO Paul Otellini the past week. 
From what I have read he seems like a forward looking person with 
positive attitude and energy. Seems he has been courting Apple at least 
as long as IBM and Freescale have been messing up and stringing Apple 
along. Hopefully Mr. Otellini's positive attributes will spread 
throughout Intel. On paper, Otellini seems to be a good fit for a 
partnership with Steve Jobs and Apple. So, time will tell and we will 
see.


Also, you bring up a good point, why do people leave all those stickers 
on their computers? Are they some sort of badge of honor? More like 
badges of courage on Windows machines!  :-)


Best regards,
Scott



On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zoltan,

I hope you meant that you hope future Macs are NOT stuck with that
(I will change the adjective to) irritating "intel inside" sticker.

I certainly prefer not to have any ads on my computers. I
especially prefer to have my Macs not resembling race cars.


There's an article discussing this on Forbes' site today:



They point out that Apple has a higher brand recognition than Intel
does, that Intel may be getting more attention from their association
with Apple than vice-versa.

I really don't think that we're going to be seeing 'Intel Inside'
stickers anytime soon.

But the 'looking like race cars' thing makes me chuckle. I see more
Windows laptops come through with ALL the myriad of stickers they
have plastered all over them when they're sold. It's as if people
think the mattress tag police have a laptop division...

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Re: windows characters

[William Webster]

I have the same problem. Guess the list will just have to get along  
without my input.



skinny butt
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On Jun 13, 2005, at 8:50 PM, G-Books wrote:



From: John Bertram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows characters??
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:48:01 -0400

Have tried several times to post a new topic, but keep getting the
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Re: [OT] Inkjet Printer Recommendation

[Daniel Colwell]

On Wed, 08 Jun Laurent Daudelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I've been using a Canon i960 for about a year now, from time to time. 
This
morning, my daughter had to print an important homework she had to 
turn in
and since it had colors, she went with the i960. Well, she was not 
able to

get the black ink to print. They awoke me and I tried deep cleaning the
print cartridge to no avail. I even replaced the black tank but the 
Canon
utility was still reporting a half full cartridge even with the new 
one.


So, I'm not sure what I want to do now.


Laurent,

Just wanted to put in my 2 cents. I also have used  the I960 since I 
got it last Father's Day.


With the last couple of printers I used the cheap ink and even refilled 
some cartridges.


Saved some money up front but I felt like it was costing me in the long 
run with many ink problems, so this last year I have used only Canon 
ink. Still going strong with lots of use from the kids for homework and 
me for photos. May be just coincidence but if it works...


Dan-



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Re: CD not recognized/mounted after 10.4

[Daniel Colwell]

On Thu, 9 Jun Rad Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I upgraded my Pismo w/ Tiger and also also did a fresh install on a
Lombard (via putting hd in my Pismo). After installtion, I tried to
put a CD in the drive to install some other software and it won't
recognize that there is a CD in the drive or mount the drive. Same
thing happens on both the Pismo and Lombard.

If I put the Tiger DVD in the drive and reboot, it will recognize
that DVD when it first boots, but if I take it out, put a different
CD in the drive, it won't recognize the CD. I can take the CD out,
put the Tiger DVD back in the drive and it will no longer recognize it.

I tried resetting the NVRAM, no luck.  I have tried swapping CD/DVD
drives between the two laptops.  The one in my Pismo is just a normal
CD/DVD-ROM, the one in the Lombard is a 2x DVD, according to the
writing on the bottom.  Neither one is a burner.  Seems strange to me
that the Lombard would appear to have a faster DVD-ROM in it than the
Pismo?




Rad,

What kind of CD drive is it?

If it is the LG DRN-8080B then it may be the drive(s). Do a google on 
that drive for a lot of info on its problems.


Would be strange if it is both but have you switched them before and 
had them work?


Mine was the LG. Got it replaced by WegenerMedia and been happy ever 
since.


Dan-



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Re: I think my Pismo needs some fine tuning. . .

[Daniel Colwell]

On Mon, 13 Jun Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello all,


My Pismo has been acting a little "sketchy" lately.  That's the best
way to describe it.  Basically, all of the animations in OS X that are
normally smooth and sleek, are now jumpy and quick.  Not sure what's up
here.  Maybe I'm being too picky?  Maybe the hard drive is snagging?
I'm not too sure yet.  Example:  In Safari, when you select Print, the
window kinda "rolls" down. . .now it just "pops" down instantly. . .no
roll anymore.  Any ideas?  I'm running 10.3.9 with a gig of RAM and a
G3/500.  Thanks for any input,


Zoltan
THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER


Zoltan,

Have you checked your CPU usage? I had some "sketchy" and slow behavior 
and found out one of my background programs started to hog up to 80% of 
the CPU. I quit that program and things went back to normal.


Also have any of your appearance preferences changed? Maybe 'use smooth 
scrolling'?


Dan-

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Corrupt NVRAM?

[dan_A]

Hi Listas

I have Ti-Book 800MHz with 1gig of RAM, and a 155 GB firewire hd  
attached. I'm running 10.4.1. I've been using this machine as a  
desktop unit, always on and plugged in. I probably killed the battery  
that way but ever since I installed Tiger, I can't restart or shut  
down without forcing those functions. I unplugged the charger to see  
how long the battery would go for... the battery shows 98% to 100%  
charge all the time... but when I unplug the charger I get about 7  
minutes of battery time and then it reads 0. I'm wondering if these 2  
symptoms indicate corrupted NVRAM. The fact that it no longer  
completes a shutdown is what makes me think so. The battery may still  
have some ability to recharge if I reset the PMU. Anyone have any  
thoughts on this? Thanks for your thoughts.



dan_A


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Windows characters??

[John Bertram]

Have tried several times to post a new topic, but keep getting the 
following rejection:




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I copied the text of the message from a TextEdit rtf file, and just 
pasted it into a regular Mac Mail message. What's up with this 
"windows" stuff?


jb

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Re: DSL and storms

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on 13/06/05 22:12, Pacer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially
>> in the Summer.  I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar
>> experience.  I use a cable modem now.  No more problems.

For what it's worth, I used to have a Linksys router and, after a
thunderstorm, I found that it would not boot properly anymore and had to
throw it away. That's the first and only time a computer device of any kind
went belly up like this. I don't have to tell you that I never bought a
Linksys device again...

-Laurent.
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Re: tiger, pismo and hp

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 13/06/05 17:36, gladys pérez-almiroty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> scott:
> i went from 10.3.9 to 10.4.1. i repaired preferences before and after
> the install. in panther you had the "usb" option, but in tiger all i
> am getting is the hp ip option. the printer is not recognized. on the
> other had, the samsung laser works perfectly. i tried the linix
> drivers with no change.
> help!

If the printer driver is some kind of network kernel extension, then the
version for 10.3 won't work with 10.4 because Apple made some changes to the
network kernel API and drivers have to be modified to work properly under
10.4. I'm not saying that this is the problem, but it could be and, in this
case, there isn't much you can do except complaining to HP...

-Laurent.
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Re: DSL and storms

[Pacer]

My Fellow PowerBook-philes and Tim,

Cable Modems would be nice if only we did not have one of the worst 
iterations of the Comcast Empire where I live.  It was formerly known as 
MediaOne, then later as AT&T Cable and Broadband.  MediaOne has the 
dubioius distinction of having the poorest customer service rating of 
any cable company ever.  Ever.  It was fantastic.  Man I still shudder 
about MediaOne.


Regardless, I will be moving to Birmingham, AL which only has Charter I 
understand.  I had to deal with them in Athens, GA.  They are not as 
technically savvy as Comcast, nor do they know how to run networks in 
general, plus they do not have as many nifty features, but goodness ... 
it's like the difference between Sun and Microsoft in cultures.  Sure, 
I'd prefer a Linux or Apple kind of culture, but at least it isn't an 
uncaring empire.


On an aside:  Apparently Paul Allen does have a stake in Charter.  Eh.

Still, business lines are expensive so I won't be able to run any nifty 
home-made servers from leftover computers running everything from 
NetBSD, OS 8.5 to RedHat 9.  I plan on getting the DreamCast an Ethernet 
adapter and turning it into something   That oughta be funny.  If my 
Mac SE had a larger hard drive I might even network it  (G)


Good luck with y'alls DSL and/or Cable Modems  and watch out for the 
lightning!  :-)


Sincerely,
Pacer the Loon


Tim Collier wrote:

I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially  
in the Summer.  I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar  
experience.  I use a cable modem now.  No more problems.


Tim




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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Zoltan Batiz]

OOPS!!  I DID MEAN NOT!  Wow, now does that sound educated?!  Of all 
the ironic typos to happen, it seems I forgot to type one little word 
that ended changing the point. . ."not".  Well Scott, at least you got 
it.  :)


Zoltan
THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER


Zoltan,

I hope you meant that you hope future Macs are NOT stuck with that (I 
will change the adjective to) irritating "intel inside" sticker.


I certainly prefer not to have any ads on my computers. I especially 
prefer to have my Macs not resembling race cars.


Best regards,
Scott


OK FINE.  You have all made excellent arguments.  I just hope that
Intel's technology doesn't screw anything up.  I also hope the future
Mac's are stuck with that stupid sticker, "INTEL INSIDE".  Yikes!  (I
know this won't happen, at least not while Jobs is alive, but it's
funny anyway)


Zoltan
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2 Question - DVD drives & VGA video out.

[elhadley]

Hello folks,

I have two iBooks. One is an iBook SE (466mhz graphite) with a DVD rom. 
[It has been a real workhorse - a great computer.] The other is a newer 
12" iBook (1 mhz) with a cd rom [last years model] that I bought from 
my Big U's Micro Order Center for a song and a dance. I needed a newer 
machine and this one presented itself at a price I could not refuse 
even if it did not have all of the options I would really liked to have 
had.


I have a couple of questions regarding my iBooks.
The questions are these...
In regards to the older 466 mhz iBook. Is there a device that would 
allow me to convert the composite video to VGA video?


I would like to turn it into my living room/DVD player/game computer. 
But it does not support VGA video out. I have an old Apple 17" Studio 
(B&W) monitor on which I would like to display the video and games.


In regards to the newer 12" iBook... Is it possible to replace the CD 
rom with a DVD rom or DVD-RW? i.e. Do the DVD drives require some 
hardware that the CD rom iBook would not have built in? And/or is it 
just not worth the trouble??


Thanks in advance for any info or advice you might have. - Edli


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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zoltan,

I hope you meant that you hope future Macs are NOT stuck with that  
(I will change the adjective to) irritating "intel inside" sticker.


I certainly prefer not to have any ads on my computers. I  
especially prefer to have my Macs not resembling race cars.


There's an article discussing this on Forbes' site today:




They point out that Apple has a higher brand recognition than Intel  
does, that Intel may be getting more attention from their association  
with Apple than vice-versa.


I really don't think that we're going to be seeing 'Intel Inside'  
stickers anytime soon.


But the 'looking like race cars' thing makes me chuckle. I see more  
Windows laptops come through with ALL the myriad of stickers they  
have plastered all over them when they're sold. It's as if people  
think the mattress tag police have a laptop division...


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Re: tiger, pismo and hp

[gladys pérez-almiroty]

scott:
i went from 10.3.9 to 10.4.1. i repaired preferences before and after  
the install. in panther you had the "usb" option, but in tiger all i  
am getting is the hp ip option. the printer is not recognized. on the  
other had, the samsung laser works perfectly. i tried the linix  
drivers with no change.

help!
g
On Jun 13, 2005, at 5:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Gladys,

Well, I have an HP All-In-One, OfficeJet G85 model, it is a good  
product, yet getting it to work properly with OS X is always a  
chore. I use it almost exclusively with Windows computers, yet I  
have used it with OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and 10.3 (Panther). The unit  
and drivers work as expected with Windows, yet HP just does not  
have good drivers for OS X (especially for the AIO units), they  
tend to grab and use 100% of the CPU and then never let it go, and  
HP drivers will not work in a multi-user environment; very poor  
driver implementation. I suspect HP has not even attempted to  
update their drivers for OS X 10.4 (Tiger), and depending on your  
HP model's age, probably won't. That said, if your HP unit's driver  
was recognized by Panther, then I think that Tiger ought to  
recognize as well. I just realized that you did not mention, what  
OS were you using before Tiger?


As an aside, I find that Canon's OS X drivers work efficiently and  
as expected, I just wish they implemented more functionality. I  
have not tried Epson machines and drivers with OS X, yet many seem  
to be happy with Epson.


Best regards,
Scott




hi to all:
i hae just installed tiger in my pismo- 30gb hd, 768 ram 500 proc.,
and i am having problems with my hp all in one printer. i downloaded
the drivers again from hp website to no avail. when i try to add a
printer the only option i get is hp ip printing. my printer model psc
1315 never shows up. it is not an ip printer.
ideas?
thanks,
gladys




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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[sacear3]

Zoltan,

I hope you meant that you hope future Macs are NOT stuck with that (I 
will change the adjective to) irritating "intel inside" sticker.


I certainly prefer not to have any ads on my computers. I especially 
prefer to have my Macs not resembling race cars.


Best regards,
Scott


OK FINE.  You have all made excellent arguments.  I just hope that
Intel's technology doesn't screw anything up.  I also hope the future
Mac's are stuck with that stupid sticker, "INTEL INSIDE".  Yikes!  (I
know this won't happen, at least not while Jobs is alive, but it's
funny anyway)


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Re: tiger, pismo and hp

[sacear3]

Hi Gladys,

Well, I have an HP All-In-One, OfficeJet G85 model, it is a good 
product, yet getting it to work properly with OS X is always a chore. I 
use it almost exclusively with Windows computers, yet I have used it 
with OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and 10.3 (Panther). The unit and drivers work 
as expected with Windows, yet HP just does not have good drivers for OS 
X (especially for the AIO units), they tend to grab and use 100% of the 
CPU and then never let it go, and HP drivers will not work in a 
multi-user environment; very poor driver implementation. I suspect HP 
has not even attempted to update their drivers for OS X 10.4 (Tiger), 
and depending on your HP model's age, probably won't. That said, if 
your HP unit's driver was recognized by Panther, then I think that 
Tiger ought to recognize as well. I just realized that you did not 
mention, what OS were you using before Tiger?


As an aside, I find that Canon's OS X drivers work efficiently and as 
expected, I just wish they implemented more functionality. I have not 
tried Epson machines and drivers with OS X, yet many seem to be happy 
with Epson.


Best regards,
Scott



hi to all:
i hae just installed tiger in my pismo- 30gb hd, 768 ram 500 proc.,
and i am having problems with my hp all in one printer. i downloaded
the drivers again from hp website to no avail. when i try to add a
printer the only option i get is hp ip printing. my printer model psc
1315 never shows up. it is not an ip printer.
ideas?
thanks,
gladys



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Re: DSL and storms

[Tim Collier]

I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially  
in the Summer.  I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar  
experience.  I use a cable modem now.  No more problems.


Tim
On Jun 12, 2005, at 11:33 PM, Kristina wrote:


on 6/12/05 9:12 PM, Pacer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


"By the appearance of the thunderstorm outside and the propensity  
for my
DSL to go down in severe lightning, maybe mother nature will stop  
me ."





Since I have had the Linksys Gateway G ADSL  wireless  
router...every puff of

bad weather  blows the modem.
 I mean Sprint has sent us 5 count em 5 new router/modems...several
techs...and 2 different surge protectors...$$$

Last nite  another blown wireless modem...and Sprint  now says that  
this
particular router is being recalled and it  was never supposed to  
be sold in

the USA.

My my my

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Re: Universities, IT, Networks and Laptops

[peter]

	A person might be able to make a good living in the town this college is 
in by selling powerbooks that look like university-approved machines.



Peter



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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[peter]

  Most PeeCee users are too stupid for the Mac community

ANYWAY.



Now, I'm not so sure about that.   I know some folks who claim 
they use Macs because they weren't smart enough to keep track of all the 
things one needs to do to get a windoze machine to work.



Peter



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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 13, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Dan O'Donnell wrote:


On Jun 12, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Ben Dyer wrote:


Personally, I'm looking forward to replacing my 1.67GHz PowerBook  
with something roughly 3 times as fast (if what I've been hearing  
about OS X performance on the developer boxes is correct) in about  
a year's time. The transition will be a headache for a lot of  
developers, but it's definitely the right move to make.




It seems to me that for many of us the big question is about our  
investment in software, and whether buying a new x86 machine may be  
the least expensive part of a change.


That is, repurchasing some - or much - of our accumulated software  
in a version that has been recently translated from PPC code to x86  
code could be far more expensive than shelling out $2k-$3k for a  
new machine. I can see this as an opportunity for many software  
developers and publishers to resell the same title to those who  
need it for some cost either equal to or somewhat less than the  
cost of that same title when purchased new.


Rosetta is going to make that transition a lot easier than you might  
think, depending on the app.


Yeah, it will depend on the developer, and where they are in their  
own upgrade cycles. Look at Adobe for example: getting the OS X- 
compatible version of Photoshop cost the same as an upgrade...because  
it WAS an upgrade, from Version 6 to Version 7.


I expect the response of developers to run the gamut between 'here  
download the X86 version for free' to 'pay $19.95 for a cd of the  
universal version' to 'upgrade to version N+1 Of Bloowats  
confabulator for $149' to 'I'm sorry, but Quark is not yet finished  
evaluating the commmittee selection to determine the X86 porting  
schedule team membership.'


This is a disruptive change, but believe it or not, most developers  
don't want to piss off their customers. They're not seeing this and  
gloating 'A Ha! I can fleece the suckers for another full-price copy,  
Bwahahahahaha!'


An app that merely takes a recompile to port is going to bring on  
nothing more than media costs for companies to make the switch; this  
is far less of a change than 68K to PPC or OS 9 to OS X.


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OS X.4 DVD on Wallstreet II

[Michael Dolberry]

I have been playing around with upgrading to X.4 on my
Wallstreets, using the new XPostFacto4. But I have run
into a snag.

I suspect that it is hopeless, but just wanted to
check.
 
Using the new XPostFacto 4, I can load the software
and recognize the DVD, even in OS 10.2. But when it
tries to load from the DVD at restart, it keeps
waiting for data, which the help site interprets as
"Not able to read the media".
 
I know that the DVD-decoder is not supposed to work in
OS X, but it appears to work in OS X.2. (I guess I
need to try to watch a movie and see.)
 
Does anyone have any further ideas or information, or
possibly a work-around which doesn't involve swapping
the drive? I can't try firewire mode. No firewire.
 
Just curious, before I tell the wife and teen, it's a
NO GO.
 
Shel


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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Dennis B. Swaney]

At 10:08 PM -0400 6/12/05, Pacer wrote:



I feel the PowerPC was a bit more inherently stable (read some of 
the notes on MacSlash about bit addressing) and the Altivec 
instructions were likely a bit better for high-end number-crunching 
(I've already read multiple worries from scientists who prefer the 
PowerPC),


Of course they're worried. The PPC doesn't have a problem crunching 
numbers while there is a history of Intel trying to cover up the fact 
that they made chips that DO have problems crunching numbers.

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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Dan O'Donnell]

On Jun 12, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Ben Dyer wrote:

Personally, I'm looking forward to replacing my 1.67GHz PowerBook with 
something roughly 3 times as fast (if what I've been hearing about OS 
X performance on the developer boxes is correct) in about a year's 
time. The transition will be a headache for a lot of developers, but 
it's definitely the right move to make.


It seems to me that for many of us the big question is about our 
investment in software, and whether buying a new x86 machine may be the 
least expensive part of a change.


That is, repurchasing some - or much - of our accumulated software in a 
version that has been recently translated from PPC code to x86 code 
could be far more expensive than shelling out $2k-$3k for a new 
machine. I can see this as an opportunity for many software developers 
and publishers to resell the same title to those who need it for some 
cost either equal to or somewhat less than the cost of that same title 
when purchased new.



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Re: Universities, IT, Networks and Laptops: Was "Is Apple really moving to x86 architecture?!"

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 12, 2005, at 6:59 PM, Pacer wrote:


My Fellow PowerBook-philes and 'david',

This is interesting to me.  Firstly, I am curious as to how the  
"network" at your University is run.  At my alma mater they had a  
network which consisted of multiple layers and multiple input/ 
outputs to and from the WAN.


Ka-snippo.

You've pretty much described the University of Arizona network to a  
tee, except we never experimented with the cable modems at Resnet;  
the dorms have been wired, mostly, since the late 90's.


Our campus e-mail has 30-40 thousand accounts, is run on a cluster of  
IBM servers running AIX, using IMAP and other OSS software, like  
Horde and Spam Assasin.


The campus network evolved as a whole bunch of independent networks,  
we've still got the Netmanagers group, an anarchic bunch of sysadmins  
on campus who run different parts, some on a college level, like us,  
some on a department level.  It grew this way because network use was  
adopted by different departments at a much different rate.


(how anarchic? The Netmanagers has always been an unofficial group;  
on the order of an ad hoc users group, though we're probably one of  
the most respected voices for IT on campus, the Administration and  
Faculty do listen to us.


The last president of the group (not coincidentally a big MS  
oriented, Central Control freak type) tried to get us recognized as  
official, with a budget, official representation on campus the works  
(or as I joked  in one of the MANY e-mails debating the issue on the  
official mailing list) 'shiny lame uniforms, a snazzy decoder ring  
and a secret handshake, too' . Well no question on which side I was  
on ;-)


We all met and by a large margin voted *against* giving ourselves  
more power on Campus.


THAT'S anarchy in action!)

The main campus Systems folks provide the central backbone, and  
campus-wide services, and support to the jack for most places. We're  
one of the few bits of the campus that still control our own networks  
in the phone closets, mostly out of inertia than anything else. In  
our new building CCIT is taking that over. Hooray, no more time spent  
in a stale phone closet trying to track one wire through a rats nest  
to a half-dozen switches.


It a system that works, it's raucous sometimes, inefficient at  
others, but  it's an extraordinarily resilient and stable network.


Arizona State in Phoenix runs their network much differently.

(Old joke: "Q: How do you get the ASU grad off your porch? A: Pay for  
the pizza." ;-)


They've got a far more rigid campus wide-LAN, all Microsoft-Centric,  
full Exchange server, the works. It's a mighty fortress.


They've also been crushed to the ground by all the big nasties to  
come around over the last few years; we survived Melissa, Code Red,  
Nimda, etc the Great Virus Wars of '02 reasonably unscathed, since  
our network design allows for the central computing folks who only  
have to really control the routers, to quickly disconnect problematic  
hosts form the network.


I'm a firm believer in the decentralized network model.

It also means we have a significant Mac presence on campus.




The whole laptop for everyone thing is another interesting idea to  
me.  Honestly, I don't think laptops add much to a class if they  
add anything at all.  I mean, sure they could be nice, but honestly  
it is more likely the student is playing solitaire while bored than  
trying to pay attention.


Oh, please, that's what universal WiFi is for; surfing the web is far  
more fun than solitaire. ;-)


My take is that the 'every student must have a laptop' is a solution  
without a problem, and a damned lucrative one, too, for whoever snags  
the contract to supply them.


When they become coercive: "No system other than ours is allowed on  
Campus" it's bad.


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Re: DSL and storms

[Kristina]

on 6/13/05 9:02 AM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Palm pilots are generally quite compatible with macs. I know my M500
> has never had a problem, OS 9 or OS X.
> 
> What do you need one to do?


Schedule and project plan?...as portable files that fit in a purse...

I am not sure  what can be done with it
I have  homeschooled for the last 13+ years  and have just 2 high schoolers
left, having graduated my first last year.

The school thing is a huge planning project 6+ subjects w texts times the 2
dc  remaining around my table, who also take 2 instruments, play in an
orchestra and a Christian rock band, , take karat.
In addition  both older girls have private students, piano guitar and
violin, amounting to 20 some families traipsing in and out of my home...

I need more  help  memory at my fingertips than my brain can do
I want to be able to plan a textbook, plot assignments, projects and tests
and  have the PDA  report the day's event of who's showing up and where do I
have to be and what do we have to do. with an alarm.

I also want world peace

Kristina
 also the cool gizmo factor appeals to me


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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 13, 2005, at 6:18 AM, Helen Nersesova wrote:

-An old friend of mine and macs says that he welcomes the idea  
about as much as making MacDonalds compulsory:)




If you're programming in Cocoa, and your app doesn't do anything  
funky with Altivec or other bits of hardware, it's a matter of a few  
hours of work; some of which is taken up with installing XCode 2.1.  
For many apps it's a matter of opening your project, opening one menu  
item, clicking on a checkbox, then recompiling.


The developers for Luxology said they ported their Modo 3D Modeller  
in a couple of hours, literally it needed just a recompile. www.luxology.com/modo/>


If yours is a Carbon app, then is definitely more work; but I've  
heard it described as 'about on par from moving from 10.2 to 10.3'.


Of you use Code Warrior, or some other development environment, then  
you're in for a hard slog. However, Apple's been urging you to switch  
for quite a while now.


-We are developers of software for Macs. Hope, Apple might be  
willing to provide the developer kit at a lower price (or even at  
no charge.) Surely they realize that without developers, their  
product will not be successful.



Apple is 'renting' the development boxes for $1k to developers (they  
have to be returned when the real X86 macs ship, from what I've read.)


Their development software, as always, is entirely free. Go to  
Apple's site and download it.


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Re: DSL and storms

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 12, 2005, at 8:33 PM, Kristina wrote:


My my my

Kristina
who would welcome any suggestions as to what I shoulld look for on  
ebay
concerning a  PDA which would b compatible with my  G3 /PB  OS  
9.2.2...or at

least what to avoid?



Palm pilots are generally quite compatible with macs. I know my M500  
has never had a problem, OS 9 or OS X.


What do you need one to do?

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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Andrea Stansbury]

Heh.  I agree totally.  It's nothing that terribly exciting.  And I 
don't think that Apple is stupid enough to do something that would 
completely ostracize their loyal users like the people on this list.  
I'm sure things will be just the same and with any luck you won't even 
notice the difference when the new Macs come out.


Try to think of it this way.  All our PowerPC based apples are going to 
be collector's items sooner than we thought.  :)


And, no, the sky is not falling.  But perhaps the world *is* ending.

On Jun 12, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote:


Wow.

You know, after a year+ of living in the Mac community, I really 
thought that all those people who talked about how crazy/fanatical Mac 
users are were totally exaggerating.


And, of course, for the most part, they are.

But there are a handful out there who really need to step back and 
look at how wrapped up they are in their computer(s).  The rationality 
just snaps off.


The sky is not falling.  No one killed any puppies.  Or even kitten.  
Hell is still hot.


TjL



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Re: BeOS and G-Books...

[Andrea Stansbury]

I have never tried it myself.  But I have seen it on my brother's PC as 
a dual operating system.  I believe he got rid of it.  I was a novelty 
for him.  I would be interested in seeing if I could get my apple to 
run BeOS.  But then again, what's available for that platform?  As you 
can see I know little to nothing about it except that it exists and 
looks cool.



On Jun 12, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Pacer wrote:


My Fellow PowerBook-philes,

Anyone tried to get these two humming?  I know Be never made the OS to 
work with the Apple Laptops, but   I mean ... think it could be 
hacked to do so?


I think at the least it would be amusing.  Besides, might breathe some 
life into one of my old Wallstreets.


Not sure which version to try, though.  Hmmm.

Maybe I'll just go buy an old, used G3 PowerMac to try it all on.

Sincerely,
Pacer the Loon
"By the appearance of the thunderstorm outside and the propensity for 
my DSL to go down in severe lightning, maybe mother nature will stop 
me ."



Zoltan Batiz wrote:

Thanks for all the input folks.  I wanted to apologize for my rather 
intense input on this subject.  Did I mention subject?  For some 
reason, someone used this thread for another subject regarding 
schools and their policies.  PLEASE don't forget to change the 
subject line as well.


Anyway, what I meant about the viruses is that I do in fact know that 
this move to Intel is good for Apple.  But, I'm afraid it might be 
too good.  I'm one of those unusual Mac users that LIKES being a part 
of a small community.  I LIKE the fact that Apple has a small market 
share.  I enjoy watching PeeCee users getting jealous over Apple's 
technology, only to get it eventually when PC manufacturers try to 
copy it.  Everyone keeps saying this is good for Apple, etc.  Yea, 
sure it's good. . .and the bigger the market share, the more we are 
gonna attract hackers.  I know the power of Mac OS X (trying not to 
sound like Darth Vader); it's almost impossible to create an 
effective system debilitating virus TO DATE.  But, the bigger the 
crowd, the more people are going to notice.  I hope everyone can see 
my point.


I need to formerly apologize to those who use PC's and are members of 
this list.  I work with all types of computers in my business.  I 
customize wireless networks, create systems for people; both PC and 
Mac.  I just had a very bad experience with someone who drove me 
crazy with his PC.  Let's just say he's the one who's stupid. . .and 
that some people should not have a computer AT ALL.  I strive to be 
patient, but for some reason I vented in here. . .my sacred ground 
with folks who not only know as much as I do about Linux, Be OS, 
Amiga OS, Mac OS, Windows and Unix, but even more than ME.  :)


Also, the useful info regarding the Alpha chip is actually exciting.  
Is this true?  Are the former employees from DEC really working for 
Intel?!  I'm throughly aware of the Alpha chip and it had a lot of 
potential.  I could only imagine what those folks, with Intel's 
budget, could create for Apple.  Everyone's going to want a Mac!  
(biting nails)  I just hope I'm wrong and the market share won't go 
any higher than 30% in the next 10 years.  Oh for those who own Apple 
stock and are cringing at what I just typed. . .I have stock as well. 
 :)


Keepin' it small. . .(like a secret club, folks!)


Zoltan
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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Helen Nersesova]

-An old friend of mine and macs says that he welcomes the idea about as 
much as making MacDonalds compulsory:)


-We are developers of software for Macs. Hope, Apple might be willing 
to provide the developer kit at a lower price (or even at no charge.) 
Surely they realize that without developers, their product will not be 
successful.



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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[david]

On Jun 13, 2005, at 12:33 AM, Ben Dyer wrote:

The jury's still out on exactly what they'll do with the chipset,  
whether it'll be a standard Intel type or custom-made for Apple,  
but either way, it won't be too far removed (technologically) from  
ordinary PC hardware.


This is one of the big questions - there's even been talk that Intel  
would do the motherboard design for Apple. My track record of second  
guessing Apple is only so-so but I can't see Apple totally walking  
away from the hardware design of their computers. I can, however, see  
Apple working *with* Intel. I'm also guessing that the chipset will  
be far enough removed from the standard Wintel chipset that it will  
require more than a little software hacking to run OS X on a Dell.


Personally, I'm looking forward to replacing my 1.67GHz PowerBook  
with something roughly 3 times as fast (if what I've been hearing  
about OS X performance on the developer boxes is correct) in about  
a year's time. The transition will be a headache for a lot of  
developers, but it's definitely the right move to make.


It will be interesting to see how OS X performs on Intel - it will  
especially be interesting to compare WinXP to OS X on very similar  
hardware. I'm currently using a Dell notebook at the university and  
it is quite impressive (although I know bit rot will eventually set  
in and at some point a virus is going to get past the barrier or some  
piece of malware will be implanted and then I'll want to throw it  
across the room). This is the first Windows notebook I've used that I  
could consider using full time - I've felt that way about PowerBooks  
since my first iBook. That it isn't significantly slower than my  
desktop is important but what I particularly like is how frugal it is  
with the battery. And that is why I'm excited about the switch. Once  
again I'll be able to own a PowerBook that can go all day without  
being tethered.


david


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Print sharing via Airport snow

[Frank Cornew]

Was able to resucitate an abandoned ABS snow that had its WAN port 
fried. Spotted a fried surface mount resistor with my trusty loupe 
and got it going again.


Am thrilled with the USB print sharing that is very simple and 
reliable out of the ABS USB port. Used to wait until returning to 
office for printing. Am using a Pismo running tiger to print 
wirelessly to an Epson 740.


Is there any chance of printing to the Epson from my OS 9.2.2 desktop 
machine hardwired to the ABS LAN port?


Thanks much.
F.

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Re: DSL and storms

[Kristina]

> The fact that a surge is hitting you so often, either thru your phone
> line or thru your power line is BAD.  VERY BAD.  It means your home
> is improperly grounded.  This is a fire hazard.  DO NOT ignore it.
> Fix it.


That's what I thought too...it must be the lines...

Thanks for the warning
Kristina


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I think my Pismo needs some fine tuning. . .

[Zoltan Batiz]

Hello all,


My Pismo has been acting a little "sketchy" lately.  That's the best 
way to describe it.  Basically, all of the animations in OS X that are 
normally smooth and sleek, are now jumpy and quick.  Not sure what's up 
here.  Maybe I'm being too picky?  Maybe the hard drive is snagging?  
I'm not too sure yet.  Example:  In Safari, when you select Print, the 
window kinda "rolls" down. . .now it just "pops" down instantly. . .no 
roll anymore.  Any ideas?  I'm running 10.3.9 with a gig of RAM and a 
G3/500.  Thanks for any input,



Zoltan
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