[MBZ] Looking to upgrade next spring.

[Brian Baker]

I would like to upgrade next spring to a newer diesel Benz.  Say like an '84 
300D or similar.  My current 240D may soon be offered for sale, (see the map 
for Harrisburg MO. for picture.) 
Looking also to upgrade from the w123 body.
Contact me offlist if you want details on the 240D.
Brian from Columbia MO
'82 240D 288,4XX

Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats

[Michael Baker]

You can get custom fitted rubber all-weather mats for virtually any 
MB model (4-pc set is$64.95 freight free in the US) at

www.plushmats.com/rubbertite.html


At 12:33 PM 11/8/05, you wrote:

Nah, sorry.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:29 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats

Maybe W116 chassis as well?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Rusty, Do you sell winter ( rubber) floor mats for my 95 E300D? I'm
looking
> for mats that are 'fit" to my car with MB logos on them. I really only
need the
> front mats. Jay

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Re: [MBZ] porno benzbunch map

[LT Don]

You didn't miss much.

On 11/8/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey, I didn't get to see it!!!
>
> Tim
> 1982 300TD Moby
>
> On 11/8/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Had my doubts about it too!... It's gone. The way the maps are
>
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Re: [MBZ] 240d shutoff follies

[Peter Frederick]

Connect a vac line from a known good source directly to the shutoff 
with the engine running.  If it doesn't stop instantly, the diapram is 
shot, replace it.


You should also check for vac at the servo line with the key out, 
engine running -- if you have good vac in the hose, the diaphram is 
shot.  If you don't have vac, check for cracks in the plastic lines, 
they do get brittle with age.  Also check for plugs in the connection 
for the brown vac line to the main vac line -- if that orifice plugs, 
it won't shut off.  Don't drill it out, it's fairly small.


If there is oil in the brown with blue stripe line from the shutoff, 
for sure the diaphram is gone.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] 300TE Demise / Manuals / Mat

[TimothyPilgrim]

Well congrats on the new XT. I was looking at a Forester XT a couple
years ago. It was one sweet wagon.

I just took a look at your 1937 Buick. That's one sweet jalopy. I may
only be 30 years old, but I grew up in a friend's collection of
early-40's Buicks. Great cars they were for a teenager. Here's the
1941 Special Eisenhower Edition that I was lent for my wedding:

http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/image/20341030/large

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/8/05, Jon Kanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good Day fellow listers,
>
> The demise of my 1988 300TE at the hands of a 16yr old wielding a SUV
> with neither skill nor finesse is now final.  After a certain amount of
> haggling, I have reached what I believe is an appropriate settlement
> from the offender's insurance company for the Mercedes.  It had been a
> wonderful automobile, surviving 18yrs, three owners and 204,800 miles.
> Although a machine, it's much like losing an old friend.
>
> I have, at least temporarily, left the fold of Mercedes ownership.  I
> was unable to locate an appropriate Mercedes replacement, came away
> dissatisfied with sample driving experiences in comparable Volvo and
> Audi, and have (gasp!) purchased another Subaru Outback XT.  Several
> contributors to this decision were the extraordinary performance of
> Kim's Outback XT in a major rear-end collision two weeks earlier,
> driving quality and feel comparable to the 300TE, and reliability /
> quality concerns with newer Mercedes offerings.
>
> I do intend to remain a member of this list community, as I enjoy the
> depth and breadth of the knowledge and postings, regardless of my
> currently Mercedes-less household.  To my fellow listers, I offer my
> thanks for your help and advise over the past 7 years.
>
> I also offer, first to the listmembers,  the paper manual set I have
> accumulated during my ownership of the 300TE for $150.00 (plus shipping)
> to the first individual to express interest.  Shipping weight is
> approximately 20lbs from zipcode 80501.  All manuals are in excellent,
> unstained condition.  Please advise me directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you
> are interested.
>
> Mercedes Factory manuals for 124 series:
> Electrical Troubleshooting Manual
> Service Manual - Engine 103
> Service Manual - Automatic Climate Control, Model 124
> Service Manual - Chassis and Body, Volume 1
> Service Manual - Chassis and Body, Volume 2
> Maintenance Manual - Model Year 1981 - 1993
>
> Non-Factory manuals
> Mercedes Benz E-Class Owner's Bible; 1986-1995 (Stu Ritter's bible)
> Haynes Mercedes-Benz 124 Series Service Manual (British)
>
>
> I also have the Mercedes cargo mat for the 124 Series wagons, in
> near-new condition.  I'd like to get $75 for the mat, or make me an
> offer I cannot refuse.  In the past year I've bought a pair of Subaru
> wagons, and finished the body work on the 1937 Money Pit in the garage,
> so every little bit helps.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
> Jon B Kanas
>
> Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe
> Home: 303-678-0658
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas
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>
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> and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Trip report - first drive, Raleigh to Boston

[Marshall Booth]

Lee Levitt wrote:

Jeff,

'93 300E 2.5L turbodiesel

I wonder if I'll get better fuel economy if I don't push it...


I've found very little difference with turbodiesels. They are optimized 
for higher engine speeds. The normally aspirated models get better 
mileage when driven in the 40-55 mph range and that drops dramatically 
as speeds exceed about 65-70 mph.


If you're getting 34 mpg on the highway, that's absolutely normal. Best 
I've ever done with my 190D 2.5t (same engine in a car that weighs at 
most 5% less) is ~38 mpg, but 33-34 is much more usual. As winter fuel 
becomes the norm, fuel economy WILL drop (10-15%).


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] porno benzbunch map

[TimothyPilgrim]

Hey, I didn't get to see it!!!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/8/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Had my doubts about it too!...  It's gone.  The way the maps are

[MBZ] odd mercedes

[BillR]

Hi Chris,

Had my doubts about it too!...  It's gone.  The way the maps are 
set up, there is no link back to the originator

Thanks for bringing it to my attention !!!

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD
On Tuesday, November 8, 2005, at 02:34  PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

> is "mikc" a real person on the list? Don't quite
> recognize the "model" in the pic he posted...certainly
> not a Benz. Doesn't make the group look good.


Wondered for a moment if someone was making a play on the origin of the
Mercedes name.  Thanks for catching / removing the shot.  I appreciate the
quality of the list.
BillR
Jacksonville  FL  904-737-2855   cell 904-707-0404
1981 300SD  EM  265K / 200K engine
2001  I 30  'Hers'  71K
1996 Sentra  255K / @ 90K engine [one of the kids has it borrowed long-term]

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Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen is back

[Christopher McCann]

Not disagreeing with your major premise, but fuel
filters are a normal thing to change. The primer pump
leaked like a seive before (when pumping) so that was
a nice upgrade. The line under the braided
hose...well, who knows, it was probably 30 years old. 

I imagine I will eventually toast the IP with my
experimentation...but the seats may drop through the
rusted body before that happens, so might as well save
some fuel money before the rust gets me.

Note, I do not do this with the SD or TD.

ALSO, Is there supposed to be an Aluminum crush washer
on the bolt that holds the top of the fuel filter on
(76 240D)?...there was not one there, so I improvised
with a thin plasticky-rubbery washer till I can get a
new one, if it is indeed supposed to be there.

Thanks,

Chris

--- Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Christopher McCann wrote:
> > new fuel primer pump, new Hengst filter (WIX did
> NOT
> > work for some reason...?), new pre filter, removed
> the
> > pressure fitted braid covered hose from the
> pre-filter
> > to the IP (guess that would be the lift pump
> there?)
> > and VOILA - she works...garbage fuel and all
> > :-)...which is to say, I'm not ready for Kaleb to
> haul
> > her off yet!
> 
> What you have experienced is exactly what will
> happen when an older car 
> - not intended for alternative fuels is run on them.
> Just about every 
> soft surface WILL dissolve - some slowly - some
> quickly and plug up 
> everything. If it reaches the injection pump even in
> small quantities 
> REAL/expensive problems usually commence.
> 
> Marshall
> -- 
> Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned
> questions)
>"der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0
> 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
> turbo 237kmi
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-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at 
home!)
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"




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[MBZ] 300TE Demise / Manuals / Mat

[Jon Kanas]

Good Day fellow listers,

The demise of my 1988 300TE at the hands of a 16yr old wielding a SUV 
with neither skill nor finesse is now final.  After a certain amount of 
haggling, I have reached what I believe is an appropriate settlement 
from the offender's insurance company for the Mercedes.  It had been a 
wonderful automobile, surviving 18yrs, three owners and 204,800 miles.  
Although a machine, it's much like losing an old friend.


I have, at least temporarily, left the fold of Mercedes ownership.  I 
was unable to locate an appropriate Mercedes replacement, came away 
dissatisfied with sample driving experiences in comparable Volvo and 
Audi, and have (gasp!) purchased another Subaru Outback XT.  Several 
contributors to this decision were the extraordinary performance of 
Kim's Outback XT in a major rear-end collision two weeks earlier, 
driving quality and feel comparable to the 300TE, and reliability / 
quality concerns with newer Mercedes offerings.


I do intend to remain a member of this list community, as I enjoy the 
depth and breadth of the knowledge and postings, regardless of my 
currently Mercedes-less household.  To my fellow listers, I offer my 
thanks for your help and advise over the past 7 years.


I also offer, first to the listmembers,  the paper manual set I have 
accumulated during my ownership of the 300TE for $150.00 (plus shipping) 
to the first individual to express interest.  Shipping weight is 
approximately 20lbs from zipcode 80501.  All manuals are in excellent, 
unstained condition.  Please advise me directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you 
are interested.


Mercedes Factory manuals for 124 series:
Electrical Troubleshooting Manual
Service Manual - Engine 103
Service Manual - Automatic Climate Control, Model 124
Service Manual - Chassis and Body, Volume 1
Service Manual - Chassis and Body, Volume 2
Maintenance Manual - Model Year 1981 - 1993

Non-Factory manuals
Mercedes Benz E-Class Owner's Bible; 1986-1995 (Stu Ritter's bible)
Haynes Mercedes-Benz 124 Series Service Manual (British)


I also have the Mercedes cargo mat for the 124 Series wagons, in 
near-new condition.  I'd like to get $75 for the mat, or make me an 
offer I cannot refuse.  In the past year I've bought a pair of Subaru 
wagons, and finished the body work on the 1937 Money Pit in the garage, 
so every little bit helps.


--

Best Regards,
Jon B Kanas

Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe
Home: 303-678-0658
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas
AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo

Jesus saves, Allah preserves,
and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.

Re: [MBZ] Trip report - first drive, Raleigh to Boston

[Lee Levitt]

Jeff,

'93 300E 2.5L turbodiesel

I wonder if I'll get better fuel economy if I don't push it...

Lee

> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Zedic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trip report - first drive, Raleigh to Boston
> 
> Sorry do you have a diesel or a gasser here? Either way, 34 
> mpg is great!
> 
> Jeff Zedic
> Toronto
> 87 300TD
> 83 300D
> 
> 

Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen is back

[Marshall Booth]

Christopher McCann wrote:

new fuel primer pump, new Hengst filter (WIX did NOT
work for some reason...?), new pre filter, removed the
pressure fitted braid covered hose from the pre-filter
to the IP (guess that would be the lift pump there?)
and VOILA - she works...garbage fuel and all
:-)...which is to say, I'm not ready for Kaleb to haul
her off yet!


What you have experienced is exactly what will happen when an older car 
- not intended for alternative fuels is run on them. Just about every 
soft surface WILL dissolve - some slowly - some quickly and plug up 
everything. If it reaches the injection pump even in small quantities 
REAL/expensive problems usually commence.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Prevent cracks on 603 heads, my solution

[Marshall Booth]

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Anybody know how "Water Wetter" works?


YES.

Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] I need a car & I found a car for $299.

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking of used, inexpensive older MB's, there an '85 380SEL with a bad 
engine for $500   -- what would be an appropriate diesel to replace the gas 
engine with?  Would a engine from a 300D turbo be a direct replacement? - 
maybe a 85-91 ??  Just weighing the options --

;-)
Thanks --


A complete '85 OM617.95 engine transmission would drop pretty well in, 
but the electrics, fuel supply and cooling system would require some 
effort. If you had two cars side by side it might not be too difficult. 
But to collect all the needed parts before the fact would be VERY 
challenging. The newer engines ('86-'87 OM603.96/OM603.97 engines) would 
be even more of a challenge and might require major structural alterations!


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] porno benzbunch map

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hi Chris,

Had my doubts about it too!...  It's gone.  The way the maps are 
set up, there is no link back to the originator


Thanks for bringing it to my attention !!!

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD
On Tuesday, November 8, 2005, at 02:34  PM, Christopher McCann wrote:


is "mikc" a real person on the list? Don't quite
recognize the "model" in the pic he posted...certainly
not a Benz. Doesn't make the group look good.





 

Re: [MBZ] Retread - was: Pulling to one side

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Peter wrote:

> Well, you won't find any steel in it if the tire doesn't have steel 
> belts, and I'm not sure that truck tires do.

They do.

Even tire that have nylon belts usually also have some steel belts. 

  Philip

Re: [MBZ] Trip report - first drive, Raleigh to Boston

[Jeff Zedic]

Sorry do you have a diesel or a gasser here? Either way, 34 mpg is great!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D

Re: [MBZ] OT Need a favour!

[Lee Levitt]

Jeff,

Happy to do so. Others have done the same for me, so I'm ready to pay it
forward.

Lee
'93 300E 2.5L td 178K

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:16 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Need a favour!
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> Sometimes when you deal with people on eBay you get idiots 
> that think that Canada is a s far away as Mongolia! They try 
> to charge me $24 to ship here from PA when I KNOW it will 
> only cost $3.75! ARRGGGHH!
> 
> I need someone to lend me their address and forward two small 
> packages to me. I will of course reimburse expenses.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jeff Zedic
> Toronto
> 87 300TD
> 
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[MBZ] Trip report - first drive, Raleigh to Boston

[Lee Levitt]

So I flew down to Raleigh on Saturday to retrive my new '93 300E td.

Next time, please remind me to buy a car from an enthusiast, not a lady who
doesn't know how to service a car properly. Service records were spotty,
from 3 different shops.



The trip was entirely uneventful, aside from a minor issue with the cig
lighter. I saw one cop between Raleigh and Boston. It was a beautiful day
for a drive, although the route was somewhat boring. I didn't get right on
95...instead, I headed west and picked up 85, which met up with 95 in VA.
There was some traffic in the DC area, most of it heading south. I don't
remember having driven past the Pentagon before, and the sight of it brought
back powerful memories of September 11. My best friend worked on Wall Street
and I couldn't reach him for 3 days afterwards...

So it's a nice car. It *does* have heated seats and I think it has an
antislip differential (ASD). *Something* kicked in and gave me a warning on
the dash when I fishtailed on some wet leaves. So I'm pretty sure it does
have ASD. It does have an idiot light marked ASD at the bottom of the IC,
and a separate warning light in the tach that illuminated that one time.

It also has a couple of good sized door dings and a crinkle in the rf
fender, all of which *may* be removable by a good dentwizard.

Tires are shot, failed inspection today because they're so bad...and to
think I cruised 700 miles on them averaging 80...I'll be replacing them next
week with a set of 4 Nokian RSi snow tires.

Anyone need a set of OE freshly painted 15" stock wheels with bad tires?

Good solid car overall. *Really* soft, I was surprised how soft the
suspension is. Runs pretty good, seems to have good power. I averaged 34 mpg
from Raleigh to Boston, running at about 75-80 the whole way!

CD changer is screwed -- it goes silent every so often and then comes
back...but it still reads the cd and track on the radio. One of the stop
lights is out, and it's not the bulb.

The previous owner had one of the taillight consoles replaced a couple of
weeks ago...looks like the other one shit the bed. 

When I got in the car in Raleigh, I plugged in my CB, my V1 and my portable
Nav (Garmin Quest 2)...then I found that the cigarette lighter had no power.
I drove for a while deaf, dumb and blind, then found that some other things
weren't working either. So I pulled over, found the fuse box and found that
a fuse was blown. Doh. Replaced it and everything came back. 

The car is a long legged runner...it really eats up the miles. Comfortable
too. 

I've got a set of euro lamps coming from ebay.de for $150. I'm pretty sure
they're Bosch OEM...which will help at night. Stock lighting sucks.

My mechanic, who owned an '88 300E for a long while, said that these things
*really* suck in the snow...even with good snow tires. I'm putting a set of
Nokians on next week...hopefully he's wrong, but we'll see. If it really is
that bad, I'll pick up a cheap quattro for winter use.

Anyway, I'm enjoying tooling around in this beast...it's quite different
from anything I've owned before, except perhaps my old Volvo 122S with 60K
miles on it...I think it feels a bit like that...

By the way, my last car was an '02 Audi A6 quattro wagon with a sport
suspension and 17" wheels, and the car before that was a '95 Audi S6 avant
(lowered, Bilsteins, 17" wheels, etc). So I'm not really used to "soft"
suspensions...

Lee
'93 300E 2.5L td 178K

Re: [MBZ] OT Need a favour!

[Jeff Zedic]

Randy,

In this case he is a crook as the exact items have come from TX and CA 
and the highest cost was $3.75.


The item weighs less than one pound.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto

[MBZ] porno benzbunch map

[Christopher McCann]

is "mikc" a real person on the list? Don't quite
recognize the "model" in the pic he posted...certainly
not a Benz. Doesn't make the group look good. 





Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at 
home!)
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"



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Re: [MBZ] I need a car & I found a car for $299.

[l02turner]

Speaking of used, inexpensive older MB's, there an '85 380SEL with a bad 
engine for $500   -- what would be an appropriate diesel to replace the gas 
engine with?  Would a engine from a 300D turbo be a direct replacement? - 
maybe a 85-91 ??  Just weighing the options --

;-)
Thanks --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Need a favour!

[R A Bennell]

I ordered parts for my wife's Toyota from Conicelli Toyota in Pennsylvania
very recently. Box was retrieved from the local postal outlet yesterday, as
no one was home when they tried to deliver it. Postage on the box was about
(don't have it right here so cannot look to verify exact amount) $18 US.
They charged me $16 US for shipping so it may well be that the amount being
charged is fair or even more than fair. Not always crooks trying to take
advantage.

Randy in Winnipeg

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Zedic
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:16 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] OT Need a favour!


Gentlemen,

Sometimes when you deal with people on eBay you get idiots that think
that Canada is a s far away as Mongolia! They try to charge me $24 to
ship here from PA when I KNOW it will only cost $3.75! ARRGGGHH!

I need someone to lend me their address and forward two small packages
to me. I will of course reimburse expenses.

Thanks!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

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Re: [MBZ] steering wheel

[Rusty Cullens]

$343.00

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michael S
HM1
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:42 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [MBZ] steering wheel

Rusty do you have a steering wheel for a 1982 300TD wagon?

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Re: [MBZ] cycling hot/cold in 90's w124 300TDt

[John M McIntosh]

First running the dial on the right side 5-7C colder (seems) to  
regulate things a bit.


So I wired up some benz pins/sockets, after doing the relays for my  
500E headlights I've a few wires and pins about.
Check for connectivity, then cross connected the two solenoids.  The  
hot air then switches to the driver's side from the passenger side.


This seems to indicate the $300+ duo-valve assembly is working and  
the signal it is receiving is bad. So either the control unit is bad,  
or one of the temp sensors in the left/right heater box is bad.


The temp sensors are $20 each, could I ordered a pair and we'll look  
into replacing them.  It still could be the potentiometers on the  
dials or the control unit, I guess I could disassemble the console  
and test them, then find they are bad, reassemble, disassemble  
(sigh). Er no it's a bitch to
reassemble the console and align and retighten everything based on  
my  last experience, plus all the plastic whimpers break me,  so  
we'll just order them.



On 6-Nov-05, at 5:40 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:




So it appears that right side is heating up, so it could be dual-
valve is weak on one side, or is the control unit flaky?
Mmmm I wonder if I can swap the female connectors or reverse the
connector. That would tell me if the control unit signal
is flake if the swap alters the behaviour from side to side.


Well the connector is specifically designed to disable anyone from
casually or even forcefully
connecting backward. The little plastic tabs scream, touch me and
I'll snap off so I won't rewire it.

Tomorrow I'll visit radio shack and gets some alligator clips and
wire and cross connect things
and see what happens.

That and run the temp dial 5-7 C colder on the right and see if
anything changes.


John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

[MBZ] OT Need a favour!

[Jeff Zedic]

Gentlemen,

Sometimes when you deal with people on eBay you get idiots that think 
that Canada is a s far away as Mongolia! They try to charge me $24 to 
ship here from PA when I KNOW it will only cost $3.75! ARRGGGHH!


I need someone to lend me their address and forward two small packages 
to me. I will of course reimburse expenses.


Thanks!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] OT 9cyl radial diesel aircraft engine

[Woodlandtaylors]

Rory,

The cartridge starter that I'm familiar with were used or Rolls Royce Avon
turbine engines. Basically a very large shotgun shell to look at and
starters came in single shot or 3 shot configurations. When released (fired)
it drove a double planetary gear train that in turn rolled the engine over
for starting. Every now and turn as the starter accelerated to ~ 45,000 Rpm
it would come apart and be swallowed by the compressor section of the
starting turbine destroying the engine. 

Its purpose was to self contained, needing no ground support to start the
engine. Used on old Canberra Bombers don not remember what else.

Link http://www.bywat.co.uk/austral1.html shows starter in use as does
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/hangar/1999/bluebird/canberra.htm 

Dennis T


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Rory
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:02 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 9cyl radial diesel aircraft engine

I never did find out the principal of the cartridge starting system, can
anyone explain the details?


Rory Morrison
Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD
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[MBZ] steering wheel

[Morgan, Michael S HM1]

Rusty do you have a steering wheel for a 1982 300TD wagon?

Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

Dave, way kool
Is that information, fotos, etc., available for the 126?
Gracias
Don

On 11/8/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Dave,
>
> This is helpful but it doesn't tell me how to remove the upper seat. Any
> idea on how to do so?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee
>
>
> Dave writes:
>
> >
> > The photos here should give you some ideas on how to run the wires:
> >
> > http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/blue_87/
> >
> > http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/white_87/
> >
> > http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > +dm
> >
> > > --
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:30:31 -0500
> > > From: "Lee Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124
> > >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > What's the best way to get a radio wire from the trunk to
> > the cabin of
> > > a '93 W124? I've tried fishing a stiff wire alongside the
> > cushion but
> > > all I run into is metal (tank?). Guess I probably shouldn't
> > drill through that.
> > >
> > > Do I need to remove the seatback or parcel shelf? What's
> > the best way
> > > to get through?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > Lee
> > > '93 300E 2.5L td 178K
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats

[Rusty Cullens]

Nah, sorry.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:29 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats

Maybe W116 chassis as well?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Rusty, Do you sell winter ( rubber) floor mats for my 95 E300D? I'm
looking 
> for mats that are 'fit" to my car with MB logos on them. I really only
need the 
> front mats. Jay

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Re: [MBZ] PHX E320, good or no

[Bob Rentfro]

Thanks for the good info...

Bob


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX E320, good or no



Bob,
I love mine. The ad doesn't mention any of the major issues with the 1995
vintage 124's though. I'd want to make absolutely sure the A/C was
operational. These are prone to evaporator leaks (to the tune of 14-15 
hours

of labor to replace), self-destructing engine wiring harnesses (3-4 hours
labor + $900 part), plugged EGR tubes, bad ignition coils, etc.
Once these issues are sorted out, though, I thoroughly enjoy driving them.
I'd say if the A/C is good and cold, you can't smell refrigerant/oil in 
the

passenger compartment from a leaky evap, and it idles smoothly, it's worth
taking a serious look at. The price is certainly right.
My seats look only slightly better than thos in the ad. I've kept an eye
out for some seats in better shape, but haven't found anything yet.
Replacement leather is .
 Gary Thompson
1995 E320 115Kmiles


On 11/7/05, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Good or no?

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/109522146.html



Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 142K
Litchfield Park
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Re: [MBZ] CarFax Request Please

[TimothyPilgrim]

LOL!

It was owned by a little old Texan lady who had her son-in-law
transport it to Ontario so that she could drive it here when she came
to visit. It was from her that I bought it, but through him. I
actually spoke to her on the phone one evening to make sure the sale
was legit. She was a nice lady who gave me some good conversation.

It was never registered here because the Texas insurance was much
better. I, obviously, couldn't make use of that loophole.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/8/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you mean "no news"? How'd it get from "la feria, TX" to Ontario?
> What's the story?
>
> On 11/8/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Kaleb. Well, I guess no news is good news, eh?
> >
> > Tim
> > 1982 300TD Moby
> >
> > On 11/8/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Vehicle Snapshot
> > > Vehicle 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300TD
> > > VIN WDBAB93A4CN009765
> > > Body Style 4 Door Wagon
> > > Country of Manufacture Germany
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen is back

[Christopher McCann]

Mine was hauled from MN...rust everywhere underneath.
Biggest fear is that the driver's seat will go through
the floor...need to address that at some point BEFORE
it happens. Eventually, the grille willl look really
cool hanging on the wall of my den.

Good luck!

Chris

--- kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, Chris.
> 
> This 240D doesn't have any rust (Oregon car), but it
> does need a radiator 
> and a front end alignment.  The owner says that it
> needs some parts 
> (probably tie rod ends) to make it right, and that's
> ok as long as it 
> doesn't need ball joints.  As long as the thing
> doesn't cost me over $1000, 
> it'll be worth it to me.
> 
> Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, soon to own another MB
> diesel 
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-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
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WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at 
home!)
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-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"




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Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats

[John Robbins]

Maybe W116 chassis as well?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rusty, Do you sell winter ( rubber) floor mats for my 95 E300D? I'm looking 
for mats that are 'fit" to my car with MB logos on them. I really only need the 
front mats. Jay

Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[Aaron Lam]

First remove the lower cushion by depressing the two orange tabs and
lifting it straight out. In the lower corner of the backrest you'll
see an 8mm bolt on each side, and there's another one underneath and
behind the center armrest. Once they're removed you can pull upward on
the backrest to remove it. The headrests need to be lowered though.

-Aaron
1987 300D
1987 300TD

Re: [MBZ] I need a car & I found a car for $299.

[Chuck Landenberger]

Andrew,

Have you taken on the role/title as "resident grammarian"??  For me,  
if I can understand what a lister means Hang the syntax and  
spelling!


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD
On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:32 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


I think it's "bail" you out.

On 11/7/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[Lee Levitt]

Dave,

This is helpful but it doesn't tell me how to remove the upper seat. Any
idea on how to do so?

Thanks!

Lee


Dave writes:

> 
> The photos here should give you some ideas on how to run the wires:
> 
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/blue_87/
> 
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/white_87/
> 
> http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/
> 
> :-)
> 
> +dm
> 
> > --
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:30:31 -0500
> > From: "Lee Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > What's the best way to get a radio wire from the trunk to 
> the cabin of 
> > a '93 W124? I've tried fishing a stiff wire alongside the 
> cushion but 
> > all I run into is metal (tank?). Guess I probably shouldn't 
> drill through that.
> >
> > Do I need to remove the seatback or parcel shelf? What's 
> the best way 
> > to get through?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Lee
> > '93 300E 2.5L td 178K
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Prevent cracks on 603 heads, my solution

[Zeitgeist]

Water can never be wet enough.  More wetness, less dryness--that's
always a good thing.

hth

Can you just feel the surface tension building?

On 11/8/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anybody know how "Water Wetter" works?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (210k)
'84 300D (205k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] CarFax Request Please

[andrew strasfogel]

What do you mean "no news"? How'd it get from "la feria, TX" to Ontario?
What's the story?

On 11/8/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Kaleb. Well, I guess no news is good news, eh?
>
> Tim
> 1982 300TD Moby
>
> On 11/8/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Vehicle Snapshot
> > Vehicle 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300TD
> > VIN WDBAB93A4CN009765
> > Body Style 4 Door Wagon
> > Country of Manufacture Germany
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Prevent cracks on 603 heads, my solution

[andrew strasfogel]

Anybody know how "Water Wetter" works?

On 11/7/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One result from a very quick search --
>
> http://www.koolance.com/technical/cooling101/002.html
>
> " Specific Heat Capacity"
>
> "Specific Heat Capacity is the amount of heat a particular substance
> can hold. Typically expressed in kJ/kgK, the rate depicts how many
> kilojoules of energy are required to change the temperature of one
> kilogram of said substance by one Kelvin."
>
> Water 4.184
> Methanol 2.55
> Ethanol 2.48
> Glycol, Antifreeze 2.38
> Liquid Nitrogen 2.04
> Benzene 1.72
> 3M Flourinert FC-43 1.47
> Freon 11 0.87
> Mercury 0.14
>
> " The specific heat capacities show water to be the best liquid for
> holding heat. Practically, it is also the best for transferring it."
>
> Then, a claim of greatness for Redline's Water Wetter --
>
> http://mr2.com/TEXT/water_wetter.txt
>
>
>
> On 11/7/05, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The water pump and other equipment upgrades are for NPG, not NPG+ which
> is a
> > drop-in replacement.
> >
> > I just looked at the web site and it's quite a bit lower - .68 verses
> 1.00
> > > for water. This means that although the stuff won't boil, it's a much
> > poorer
> > > conductor of heat than water. This may be why the same site is
> offering a
> > > water pump & radiator upgrade.
> > >
>
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
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Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen is back

[kevin kraly]

Hi, Chris.

This 240D doesn't have any rust (Oregon car), but it does need a radiator 
and a front end alignment.  The owner says that it needs some parts 
(probably tie rod ends) to make it right, and that's ok as long as it 
doesn't need ball joints.  As long as the thing doesn't cost me over $1000, 
it'll be worth it to me.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, soon to own another MB diesel 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes books on-line

[andrew strasfogel]

"squimish" = squeamish or squirm-ish??

On 11/7/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Google has started it's searchable books on-line -
> http://www.print.google.com - in beta.
>
> A quick search for "Mercedes Diesel" yielded:
>
> "Diesel Engine Reference Book"
> http://tinyurl.com/c6hgm
>
> "Mercedes-Benz: 110 Years of Excellence"
> http://tinyurl.com/9r3p9
>
> "Mercedes-Benz Buyer's Guide: Roadsters, Coupes and Convertibles"
> http://tinyurl.com/afwuz
>
> "Illustrated Buyer's Guide"
> http://tinyurl.com/ccxyg
>
> "Automotive Lubricants Reference Book"
> http://tinyurl.com/9a83b
>
> These seem to be recent books for the most part. If you're squimish
> about intellectual property rights, buy the book after reading it
> on-line.
>
> I also read that Amazon is planning to offer electronic versions of
> the physical books it sells as an option someday -- --
>
>
> --
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> Norman, OK
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Re: [MBZ] I need a car & I found a car for $299.

[andrew strasfogel]

I think it's "bail" you out.

On 11/7/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey - go for it! MB roadside assistance will bale you out! (If you run
> out of fuel, the battery dies, or you need the flat tire changed).
>
> On 11/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Donald wrote:<< can
> > drive 300
> > miles out to western Kansas and back in a day. This car looks like it
> > might be questionable. >>>
> >
> > Awww, come on Don, where's your sense of *adventure*?
> > ;-)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
> > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net 
> > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's 123 Wagon

[andrew strasfogel]

Is FEDEX ground OK?

 On 11/7/05, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Let's see we have offers of 299 from Rick and 309 from Kaleb. I'll give
> you $1000 but you have to deliver it Wichita by Saturday.
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A.
>
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>
> P.O. Box 207
>
> Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
>
> Tel. (316) 263-5851
>
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Re: [MBZ] Overload swithover valve, OM 917.951 engine

[Marshall Booth]

Marshall Booth wrote:

Hans Neureiter wrote:

I found the tube from the intake manifold to the O/L switchover valve
disconnected.
Reading the ALDA functional description I am somewhat confused.
The way I interpret this gets me to the following conclusion:
 The overload protection switchover valve vents the ALDA to atm. when RPM is
below 2000 and the gauge pressure in the manifold is below a certain amount
(0.5 bar ?), thus cutting off fuel enrichment.
The ALDA regulates and limits total boost pressure in the manifold (gauge +
atm.) to a set value by adjusting the fuel enrichment.
 So, with the tube from the manifold disconnected and open to atm., the ALDA
cuts off all fuel enrichment below 2000 RPM and goes to full enrichment
above this ?
 I can't tell what a difference this correction made by itself, because it
was during a badly needed valve adjustment job. Every single valve was way
to tight. Some intakes didn't let a .001" feeler gage slip in.
The car now now nearly out drags the E300D.
 One other question. I replaced a bad O-ring at the modulator and the leak
there stopped. But there are still ATF drips on the ground. Where is another
probable source for a leak near the front on these transmissions. I can't
find it. It's not the pan.


The transmission overload protection circuit you describe was eliminated 
when Mercedes changed from the 722.1 series to the 722.3 series 
transmissions in 1981. I believe that coincided with the US delivered 
"S" class cars migrating from W116 to W126 chassis, but there may have 
been some European 126s that had 722.1 transmissions.


I quote from 7.1-015 of the 617.95 engine manual: "Starting model year 
1981, installation of transmission 722.303 instead of 722.120 has made 
the transmission overload protection unnecessary. Only engine overload 
protection will be installed."


Your 1982 126.120 does NOT have the circuit you are describing! There is 
overboost protection if the sensor on the intake manifold senses 
pressure  in excess of about 1 bar.


Marshall


If the pressure line is disconnected, then boost pressure will not reach 
the ALDA and there will never be ANY fuel enrichment (when the ALDA is 
open to the atmosphere all it can do is act as an ADA and reduce fuel 
flow as altitude increases and therefore atmospheric pressure 
decreases). That limits the engine to 88 hp or less at altitudes above 
sea level (vs 120 hp with full enrichment).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen is back

[Christopher McCann]

It's fun. This one was $300, then my friend put $450
into it, then I bought it from him for $500 and put
new tires and had the rear windshield installed
(replacement windshield came with car, but in the back
seat). It's got serious rust issues, but it will
shortly pay for itself in fuel savings and I am
learning alot in the mean time. I can take as long as
I need to work on it as the SD and TD are daily
drivers for my wife and I...this can sit on jacks for
a month if need be and I take my time, post questions,
drink beer, smoke and do alot of staring while
thinking "there has to be an easier way"...usually
there isn't.

Good luck.

P.S. Not sure how you plan on filtering, but I am
gonna switch to simple filter bags. Hang them over a
drum or 5 gallon buckets and that's it. SIMPLE is the
name of the game or else it get's tedious.

Please keep me updated, Kevin. Oh, and always err on
the side of a thin mixture...too thick will screw up
the IP quickly.

Chris

--- kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen
> Kraftstoffs 
> Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
> running 
> WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2
> mix (do not attempt this at home!)
> 
> I found a 1974 240D with "manyK miles" with which
> I'm intending to do the 
> same thing.  I'm going to be looking at it to see if
> it's worth the $500 
> asking price.
> 
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, with another MB diesel,
> perhaps 
> 
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-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
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Re: [MBZ] Overload swithover valve, OM 917.951 engine

[Marshall Booth]

Hans Neureiter wrote:

I found the tube from the intake manifold to the O/L switchover valve
disconnected.
Reading the ALDA functional description I am somewhat confused.
The way I interpret this gets me to the following conclusion:
 The overload protection switchover valve vents the ALDA to atm. when RPM is
below 2000 and the gauge pressure in the manifold is below a certain amount
(0.5 bar ?), thus cutting off fuel enrichment.
The ALDA regulates and limits total boost pressure in the manifold (gauge +
atm.) to a set value by adjusting the fuel enrichment.
 So, with the tube from the manifold disconnected and open to atm., the ALDA
cuts off all fuel enrichment below 2000 RPM and goes to full enrichment
above this ?
 I can't tell what a difference this correction made by itself, because it
was during a badly needed valve adjustment job. Every single valve was way
to tight. Some intakes didn't let a .001" feeler gage slip in.
The car now now nearly out drags the E300D.
 One other question. I replaced a bad O-ring at the modulator and the leak
there stopped. But there are still ATF drips on the ground. Where is another
probable source for a leak near the front on these transmissions. I can't
find it. It's not the pan.


The transmission overload protection circuit you describe was eliminated 
when Mercedes changed from the 722.1 series to the 722.3 series 
transmissions in 1981. I believe that coincided with the US delivered 
"S" class cars migrating from W116 to W126 chassis, but there may have 
been some European 126s that had 722.1 transmissions.


I quote from 7.1-015 of the 617.95 engine manual: "Starting model year 
1981, installation of transmission 722.303 instead of 722.120 has made 
the transmission overload protection unnecessary. Only engine overload 
protection will be installed."


Your 1982 126.120 does NOT have the circuit you are describing! There is 
overboost protection if the sensor on the intake manifold senses 
pressure  in excess of about 1 bar.


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?

[TimothyPilgrim]

Excellent. That's the info I was looking for. Thanks Marshall.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/8/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> > But what is the intended outcome? What's the benefit?
>
> An EGR routes exhaust (soot and all) back into the air intake in low
> engine power situations. This reduces combustion temperatures and
> reduces the formation of oxides of nitrogen. It also reduces combustion
> efficiency, increases fuel consumption and increases particulate/soot
> production. Most older ('80s or older) Mercedes turbodiesels with a
> working EGR feel a little sluggish at low speeds and (especially if
> largely city driven) develop considerable soot accumulation in the
> intake air path. When soot accumulation becomes sufficient, the pressure
> path from the intake manifold to the ALDA is eventually blocked so that
> fuel enrichment is inhibited or prevented and engine power can be
> limited to about 70% of rating (a 120 hp turbo engine is limited to
> about 80 hp).
>
> Because there is no enrichment circuit on non-turbo engines, EGR
> operation is much less detrimental (but the air intake path will
> eventually become choked and that can cause a detectable power loss).
>
> By disabling the EGR, soot from the exhaust is no longer redirected thru
> the air intake path so there's no soot to accumulate, combustion
> efficiency is preserved, particulate content of the exhaust is reduced
> dramatically, BUT NOx output increases a bit.
>
> The decrease in NOx that the EGR provides for Mercedes diesels is rather
> modest. Last time I researched it, it was claimed that most Mercedes
> diesel engines even without a working EGR produce less NOx than most
> gasoline engines (with ALL of their emissions controls working, but just
> a little below peak efficiency) that are more than a few years old.
> Still, without the EGR, they will not meet current emissions standards
> for new cars so can't be sold in the US.
>
> I believe that the oxidation CAT used on the later OM60x engines reduces
> NOx.
>
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen is back

[kevin kraly]

-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs 
Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2

mix (do not attempt this at home!)

I found a 1974 240D with "manyK miles" with which I'm intending to do the 
same thing.  I'm going to be looking at it to see if it's worth the $500 
asking price.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, with another MB diesel, perhaps 

Re: [MBZ] EGR disable/delete (was: engine mount survival)

[Marshall Booth]

Dave M. wrote:

And I prefer removing the silly thing entirely. The valve itself can
leak, even if all vacuum connections are removed - see photos here:


No question - if the EGR does NOT close completely the engine will run 
improperly and so the valve should then be removed and the hole plugged. 
Mine is closed and since I never intend to allow it to open again, I 
rather expect it to remain closed. If it opens - I'll certainly remove it.


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Re: [MBZ] Cracked #17 head!? (was: Portland wagon)

[Marshall Booth]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Good point, Dave.  For what it's worth, though, my #17 that blew
definitely did so on its own, so to speak---not because of
overheating.  The car overheated routinely after the head cracked, but
not before, and once the head was replaced it ran perfectly
again---i.e. the cooling system was NOT the culprit.  Pity I don't
have much maintenance history on the car.  I don't know exactly when
the original head was replaced, nor when the trap oxidizer recall was
done.  If there was an overlap, we could blame the trap for the #17
cracking.

On 11/7/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Before condemning the #17+ heads, you need to know the details behind
the failure (re: that SDL with a bunch of cracks in a '17.)  Blowing a
radiator hose and driving for an hour with the temp in the red and no
coolant in the system will likely crack a #22 head also.


All heads CAN crack - even old iron heads. I've seen a small number of 
OM601 and 602 heads (maybe about as many as OM61x heads) that have 
cracked. The cracks look just like cracks in 603 heads - they crack in 
the same places (around prechamber and valve ports mostly). They 
represent a TINY fraction (<1%) of the number of 601/602 heads produced 
(vs maybe 20% of the heads from '86-'87 603 engines). Most crack because 
they are abused some way. Aluminum heads expand and contract FAR more in 
response to heating/cooling than iron heads and because of that, require 
that additional measures be taken to compensate for that activity. There 
is evidence that aside from the heat stress of a trap oxidizer plugging 
up, SOME of the cracking problem resulted from the design of the head 
gaskets used before the the late '80s. Mercedes also redesigned the head 
itself - several times. A few certainly cracked because they were flawed 
in the manufacturing process. One problem with the introduction of 
aluminum heads was that they couldn't be magnafluxed as iron heads could 
to reveal flaws. That left pressure testing as about the only practical 
method for testing in the field and Mercedes acknowledges in the engine 
manual that even heads that pass the pressure test may still be flawed 
and fail once installed.


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?

[Marshall Booth]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

But what is the intended outcome? What's the benefit?


An EGR routes exhaust (soot and all) back into the air intake in low 
engine power situations. This reduces combustion temperatures and 
reduces the formation of oxides of nitrogen. It also reduces combustion 
efficiency, increases fuel consumption and increases particulate/soot 
production. Most older ('80s or older) Mercedes turbodiesels with a 
working EGR feel a little sluggish at low speeds and (especially if 
largely city driven) develop considerable soot accumulation in the 
intake air path. When soot accumulation becomes sufficient, the pressure 
path from the intake manifold to the ALDA is eventually blocked so that 
fuel enrichment is inhibited or prevented and engine power can be 
limited to about 70% of rating (a 120 hp turbo engine is limited to 
about 80 hp).


Because there is no enrichment circuit on non-turbo engines, EGR 
operation is much less detrimental (but the air intake path will 
eventually become choked and that can cause a detectable power loss).


By disabling the EGR, soot from the exhaust is no longer redirected thru 
the air intake path so there's no soot to accumulate, combustion 
efficiency is preserved, particulate content of the exhaust is reduced 
dramatically, BUT NOx output increases a bit.


The decrease in NOx that the EGR provides for Mercedes diesels is rather 
modest. Last time I researched it, it was claimed that most Mercedes 
diesel engines even without a working EGR produce less NOx than most 
gasoline engines (with ALL of their emissions controls working, but just 
a little below peak efficiency) that are more than a few years old. 
Still, without the EGR, they will not meet current emissions standards 
for new cars so can't be sold in the US.


I believe that the oxidation CAT used on the later OM60x engines reduces 
NOx.


Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats

[Rusty Cullens]

$64.00 set of 4, only way to get.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats


Rusty, Do you sell winter ( rubber) floor mats for my 95 E300D? I'm
looking 
for mats that are 'fit" to my car with MB logos on them. I really only
need the 
front mats. Jay




Thank you, Jay 
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83 MB 300D 241K The silver coffin
99 Mercury Sable wagon 24 valve 86K 
Cannondale SR500
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[MBZ] Rusty-winter mats

[Jwtdiesel]

Rusty, Do you sell winter ( rubber) floor mats for my 95 E300D? I'm looking 
for mats that are 'fit" to my car with MB logos on them. I really only need the 
front mats. Jay




Thank you, Jay 
95 MB E300D 93K The new baby
83 MB 300D 241K The silver coffin
99 Mercury Sable wagon 24 valve 86K 
Cannondale SR500
Allentown,Pa.
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Re: [MBZ] PHX E320, good or no

[Gary Thompson]

Bob,
 I love mine. The ad doesn't mention any of the major issues with the 1995
vintage 124's though. I'd want to make absolutely sure the A/C was
operational. These are prone to evaporator leaks (to the tune of 14-15 hours
of labor to replace), self-destructing engine wiring harnesses (3-4 hours
labor + $900 part), plugged EGR tubes, bad ignition coils, etc.
 Once these issues are sorted out, though, I thoroughly enjoy driving them.
I'd say if the A/C is good and cold, you can't smell refrigerant/oil in the
passenger compartment from a leaky evap, and it idles smoothly, it's worth
taking a serious look at. The price is certainly right.
 My seats look only slightly better than thos in the ad. I've kept an eye
out for some seats in better shape, but haven't found anything yet.
Replacement leather is .
  Gary Thompson
1995 E320 115Kmiles


 On 11/7/05, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good or no?
>
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/109522146.html
>
>
>
> Bob Rentfro
> '77 300D 142K
> Litchfield Park
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Re: [MBZ] 240d shutoff follies

[Hans Neureiter]

You may have a bad shut off valve (leaking diaphragm). Pull vac on it with
the MityVac. If it shuts off easy, problem is somewhere else, like a split
tube from ant to the switch.

On 11/8/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One of my '82 240Ds is driving me nuts, won' shut off at the key.
>
> Could not find my Mityvac tester, so figured, hey, must be the shutoff
> valve
> anyway so I ordered one.
>
> Then I *found* my tester. It appears the valve on the car is working.
>
> Ooookay, I says, what's up here. Lots of vacuum from the pump. So I
> isolated
> the yellow and yellow stripe lines for the doors out of the vacuum fork
> into
> the firewall. I now only have vacuum IN from the pump, plus the in and out
> lines from the key switch running through the fork. Still no shutoff.
>
> I pulled the cluster and visually inspected the connections into the key
> switch. They are fine.
>
> Any suggestions where I go next? When this happened on my old diesels it
> was
> always the vacuum shutoff diaphragm at the pump, so I've never got into
> this
> before.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mac
> Aylmer, Quebec
> '60 220s / '82 240d (x2) / '82 300sd
> Volvo-free for the first time since 1987
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Overload swithover valve, OM 917.951 engine

[Hans Neureiter]

I found the tube from the intake manifold to the O/L switchover valve
disconnected.
Reading the ALDA functional description I am somewhat confused.
The way I interpret this gets me to the following conclusion:
 The overload protection switchover valve vents the ALDA to atm. when RPM is
below 2000 and the gauge pressure in the manifold is below a certain amount
(0.5 bar ?), thus cutting off fuel enrichment.
The ALDA regulates and limits total boost pressure in the manifold (gauge +
atm.) to a set value by adjusting the fuel enrichment.
 So, with the tube from the manifold disconnected and open to atm., the ALDA
cuts off all fuel enrichment below 2000 RPM and goes to full enrichment
above this ?
 I can't tell what a difference this correction made by itself, because it
was during a badly needed valve adjustment job. Every single valve was way
to tight. Some intakes didn't let a .001" feeler gage slip in.
The car now now nearly out drags the E300D.
 One other question. I replaced a bad O-ring at the modulator and the leak
there stopped. But there are still ATF drips on the ground. Where is another
probable source for a leak near the front on these transmissions. I can't
find it. It's not the pan.

--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

Re: [MBZ] 240d shutoff follies

[LT Don]

My guess -- the shutoff valve is weak but still somewhat functions with the
MityVac. (?)

On 11/8/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One of my '82 240Ds is driving me nuts, won' shut off at the key.
>
>


--
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

Re: [MBZ] OT 9cyl radial diesel aircraft engine

[Rory]

I have watched both, and prefer the original with James Stewart. The re-make
seemed less realistic, everyone stayed beautiful despite the ravages of the
desert, plus, too much PC compared to the original.

I also liked that they hd a destination, and reached it, instead of flying
into the sunset and leaving me wondering if they made it.

On the other topic, can anyone explain the cartridge starting method?

On 11/7/05, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Rory did you watch both versions of Flight of the Phoenix and
> which one did you like?
>
> The other Rory
>


Regards,

Rory Morrison
Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD

[MBZ] 240d shutoff follies

[Steve MacSween]

One of my '82 240Ds is driving me nuts, won' shut off at the key.

Could not find my Mityvac tester, so figured, hey, must be the shutoff valve
anyway so I ordered one.

Then I *found* my tester. It appears the valve on the car is working.

Ooookay, I says, what's up here. Lots of vacuum from the pump. So I isolated
the yellow and yellow stripe lines for the doors out of the vacuum fork into
the firewall. I now only have vacuum IN from the pump, plus the in and out
lines from the key switch running through the fork. Still no shutoff.

I pulled the cluster and visually inspected the connections into the key
switch. They are fine.

Any suggestions where I go next? When this happened on my old diesels it was
always the vacuum shutoff diaphragm at the pump, so I've never got into this
before.

Thanks

Mac
Aylmer, Quebec
'60 220s / '82 240d (x2) / '82 300sd
Volvo-free for the first time since 1987

[MBZ] AKP-Wagen & massive oil loss

[Christopher McCann]

some may recall my runningout of oil a while back.
Figured this one out too. Once the car started, it was
obvious that something was quite wrong - the breather
hose comes off the valve cover then goes into a T. the
bottom of the T looks like it goes back to the
crankcase (?) and it is leaking. THe other end of the
T goes to the intake boot off the air cleaner - it was
gone...splattering some, but not alot of oil. Over
time, these two things together, I believe, would run
the oil down much faster than normal, especially on a
high miles engine. New T and hose to be ordered today. :-)

Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at 
home!)
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"




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[MBZ] AKP-Wagen is back

[Christopher McCann]

new fuel primer pump, new Hengst filter (WIX did NOT
work for some reason...?), new pre filter, removed the
pressure fitted braid covered hose from the pre-filter
to the IP (guess that would be the lift pump there?)
and VOILA - she works...garbage fuel and all
:-)...which is to say, I'm not ready for Kaleb to haul
her off yet!

Thanks for all the suggestions.



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at 
home!)
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"




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Re: [MBZ] OT 9cyl radial diesel aircraft engine

[Chuck Landenberger]

The only date in the article is noted below  April 1940 when  
''A.T.C. No 220 was issued"


The official flight tests for the C.A.A. were completed  
satisfactorily and on one of the flights an altitude of 18,300 ft.  
was attained with the airplane still climbing at the rate of 500 ft.  
per min. This altitude compares very favourably with the ceiling of  
14,500 ft. guaranteed for the gasoline-engined Stinson and indicates  
that a ceiling of at least 20,000 ft. could be attained by the Diesel- 
engined Stinson without supercharging. A.T.C. No. 220 was issued for  
the Guiberson A-1020 Diesel aircraft engine in April, 1940, giving it  
a continuous rating of 310 h.p. at 2,150 r.p.m. at sea-level.


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD

[MBZ] EGR et al

[frederick w moir]

Hi, All.
	On my 87 190Dt, I repaired the leaky EGR with an aluminum gasket about one 
eight inch thick. Drew it up on Acad and made a template out of G-10 at 
work on the CNC router, then made the gasket. Works real well!

Also used some metal shim seals from Rusty (All Hail Rusty!) 604 142 05 80.
The delete button is lower right.
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
84 85 87 Hi! Ho! Silver! (a puff of black smoke) and, Awayyy!
Is it Friday yet?

Re: [MBZ] OT 9cyl radial diesel aircraft engine

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:11:39 -0800 Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/aero_engines/The%20Guiberson%20Diesel.htm


They don't give a date of when the engine was developed and used, but a
couple of comments help fix it:


> The flight of 1,500 miles from Dallas, via Birmingham and Charleston,
> was completed in 10 hours and 35 minutes flying time at an average speed
> of 142 m.p.h. An altitude of approximately 3,000 ft. was maintained with
> the engine cruising at 220 h.p. at 1,800 r.p.m. Regular Texaco Diesel
> Chief fuel oil costing 6 cents a gallon such as is used in Caterpillar
> tractors was consumed at the rate of 11 1/2 gallons an hour or 0.37 lb.
> per h.p. per hour and its total cost was only $6.90. Lubricating oil to
> the extent of 3 gallons at $1.40 a gallon added $4.20 to the
> expenditure, making a total cost of $11.10 for fuel and oil for the
> entire journey. The fuel cost of less than 12 cent a mile is an
> unheard-of figure for flight operations in this country.

For a cost of $3.00/gallon, the fuel cost would have been $345, or $6/mi.


> So great has been the demand for these tank engines for the United
> States Army that special air-conditioned buildings have been built at
> the Buda factory in which the engines are manufactured by the latest
> flowline production methods. These buildings are unique and anticipate
> air-raid "blackouts" in that they are constructed without windows and
> are equipped with fluorescent lighting.

Sounds like WWII.



Craig

[MBZ] Oil sucker fiasco

[wilton strickland]

Re. oil getting into vac unit.  Most shop vacs produce much more suction
than needed to make oil sucker work well.  To reduce possibility of oil in
vac hose, it may help to reduce vac at oil container - opening in hose, etc.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[Dave M.]

Lee,

The photos here should give you some ideas on how to run the wires:

http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/blue_87/

http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/white_87/

http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/

:-)

+dm

> --
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:30:31 -0500
> From: "Lee Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124
>
> Guys,
>
> What's the best way to get a radio wire from the trunk to the cabin of a '93
> W124? I've tried fishing a stiff wire alongside the cushion but all I run
> into is metal (tank?). Guess I probably shouldn't drill through that.
>
> Do I need to remove the seatback or parcel shelf? What's the best way to get
> through?
>
> TIA,
>
> Lee
> '93 300E 2.5L td 178K

Re: [MBZ] EGR disable/delete (was: engine mount survival)

[Dave M.]

And I prefer removing the silly thing entirely. The valve itself can
leak, even if all vacuum connections are removed - see photos here:

http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_intake/

:)

+dm

> --
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 01:15:35 -0500
> From: TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?
>
>
> But what is the intended outcome? What's the benefit?
>
> Tim
> 1982 300TD Moby
>
> On 11/8/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> > > What's with the 80's EGR "fix" using a ballbearing?
> >
> > I MUCH prefer disconnecting all vacuum lines to the EGR. A BB or ball
> > bearing CAN leak.
> >
> > Marshall
>

Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

[Dave M.]

Russ,

That's bizarre. I suspect the 'pirated' copies are ones that are
'cracked' and don't use a keygen. The keygen creates a real license
key, same as you would get from MB. I have my EPC and WIS installed at
home, on a PC connected to the internet via broadband. I have no 3rd
party firewall (no ZoneAlarm, etc) just the XP built-in thingy. It's
never asked to connect and I have no idea if it does or not. Works
fine though. It also works on a standalone box that's not connected to
the internet. I think it depends on where you obtained the EPC and
WIS... there may be 'cracked' versions out there that require the
loopback, or that can't be connected to the internet.

The "old" USA-only WIS and EPC have NO problems with this at all.
They're probably still floating around FTP servers, or on eBay...

:-)

+dm

> --
> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:51:00 -0600
> From: Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?
>
>
> Dave,
>
> Don't know about your version, But the one my Indy installed would
> not work without the loopback adapter installed. He fought with it for
> 3 hours.
> As for "phoning home" one of the Indies in N.O. told buddy (My Indy)
> at a MB Tech Class that he allowed his WIS & EPC to access the internet.
> About 2 weeks after he installed it. He launched the EPC to look up a part.
> A Screen came up to "WARNING YOU HAVE A PIRATED COPY OF THE EPC" Contact
> MBNA for a Legal copy. Same thing for his copy of the WIS. This was on his
> home computer w/Broadband connection. His Laptop at work that has the same
> EPC and WIS installed and not connected to the Net is still running.
>
> Go Figure.
>
> Russ W.

Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[J.B. Hebert]

The 124 chassis cars have cable channels on either side of the 
vehicle running all the way to the trunk.  If you remove the seat 
bottom, you can see where the channels go under the seat (you will 
see vacuum lines for the trunk and gas flap locks, and electrical 
wires).  You should be able to use these channels for your wire runs.


J.B.

At 09:30 AM 11/8/2005, you wrote:



Guys,

What's the best way to get a radio wire from the trunk to the cabin of a '93
W124? I've tried fishing a stiff wire alongside the cushion but all I run
into is metal (tank?). Guess I probably shouldn't drill through that.

Do I need to remove the seatback or parcel shelf? What's the best way to get
through?

TIA,

Lee
'93 300E 2.5L td 178K



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Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[Lee Levitt]

CB Radio antenna wire.
 
How do I remove the rear seat back?
 
Thanks,
 
Lee


  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124


are you trying to run the speaker wire ? best way to go is by removing the
rear seat back, find a hole from the trunk to the passenger compartment and
run it under the carpet. thats my suggestion anyway 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Mercedes mailing list' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:30:31 -0500
Subject: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124




Guys,



What's the best way to get a radio wire from the trunk to the cabin of a '93

W124? I've tried fishing a stiff wire alongside the cushion but all I run

into is metal (tank?). Guess I probably shouldn't drill through that.



Do I need to remove the seatback or parcel shelf? What's the best way to get

through?



TIA,



Lee

'93 300E 2.5L td 178K







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Re: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[mykd1]

are you trying to run the speaker wire ? best way to go is by removing the rear 
seat back, find a hole from the trunk to the passenger compartment and run it 
under the carpet. thats my suggestion anyway 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Mercedes mailing list' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:30:31 -0500
Subject: [MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124



Guys,

What's the best way to get a radio wire from the trunk to the cabin of a '93
W124? I've tried fishing a stiff wire alongside the cushion but all I run
into is metal (tank?). Guess I probably shouldn't drill through that.

Do I need to remove the seatback or parcel shelf? What's the best way to get
through?

TIA,

Lee
'93 300E 2.5L td 178K



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Re: [MBZ] Oil Sucker mods.

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

I found changing the oil when too hot w/my topsider caused the larger hose
(the one with the clamp) to collapse, so I changed a few things

Made a solid Aluminum replacement for the hose connector end that fits into
the Topsider (tm) tank.  Taped the center with a 1/4 pipe thread and
installed a ball valve.  Attached a piece of 3/8 hose to that.  At the
other end, used a few fittings to convert the 3/8 hose to 1/4 hose.   All
hose (tubing) that I used was high temp clear tygon tubing, so I could see
the oil flow.   All the fittings and hose were bought a Home Depot.   If
anyone has access to a lathe and wants a dwg of of the insert, let me know.
I'll see if I can dig it out.

Since none of these hoses are collapsable, I can change the oil when the
engine is hot, and flows freely.

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533

Re: [MBZ] Retard - was: Pulling to one side

[mykd1]

yep, cause he was a retard and thats the direction he to go 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:18:01 -0600
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retard - was: Pulling to one side


is the retard pulling the other side???

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:13:54 -0600, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thank you. Now I can once again get up at 6:30 am and head off to work.
>


-- 
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'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)

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[MBZ] Running wire from trunk, '93 W124

[Lee Levitt]

Guys,

What's the best way to get a radio wire from the trunk to the cabin of a '93
W124? I've tried fishing a stiff wire alongside the cushion but all I run
into is metal (tank?). Guess I probably shouldn't drill through that.

Do I need to remove the seatback or parcel shelf? What's the best way to get
through?

TIA,

Lee
'93 300E 2.5L td 178K

Re: [MBZ] CarFax Request Please

[TimothyPilgrim]

Thanks Kaleb. Well, I guess no news is good news, eh?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/8/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vehicle Snapshot
> Vehicle 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300TD
> VIN WDBAB93A4CN009765
> Body Style 4 Door Wagon
> Country of Manufacture Germany

Re: [MBZ] CarFax Request Please

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300TD
VIN WDBAB93A4CN009765
Body Style 4 Door Wagon
Country of Manufacture Germany


Vehicle History Checklist
Vehicle Description WDBAB93A4CN009765
Title Check No records found
Problem Check No records found
Odometer Check No records found
Vehicle Information No records found
Full History Records found

 Title Check
Your vehicle checks out!

Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found
Damaged No Damaged Records Found
Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found
Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found
Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found
Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found
Junk No Junk Records Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found
Salvage No Salvage Records Found


 Problem Check
Your vehicle checks out!

NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found
Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found
Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found
Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found
Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found
Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found
Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found


 Vehicle Information
Your vehicle checks out!

Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found
Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found
Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found
Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found
Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found
Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found
Government Use No Government Use Records Found
Police Use No Police Use Records Found
Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found
Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found
Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found
Theft No Theft Records Found


 Vehicle History Records
We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of 
insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 6 
records for this 1982 MERCEDES-BENZ 300 SERIES 300TD. Note the 
highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of 
this vehicle.


Date Location Mileage Description
1990-01-05 TX 66239 odometer reading from dmv
1996-05-01 midland, TX  registration event/renewal
1997-05-01 la feria, TX  registration event/renewal
1998-05-14 la feria, TX  registration event/renewal
2004-10-29 toronto, ON  canadian renewal
2005-03-29 ajax, ON  canadian renewal


Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary)
Description Full Definition

Odometer Reading from DMV Odometer reading recorded by the state 
Department of Motor Vehicles.

Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV.
Canadian Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by 
Canadian DMV.


 Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300 
Series 300TD


  No Consumer Guide® data available.


TimothyPilgrim wrote:


VIN:  WDBAB93A4CN009765

It's my own wagon, but since I was the first to register it in
Ontario, there's no record of it up here and I didn't get anything
from its US owner.

Thanks in advance.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone have Carfax account - Non MB - Sorry daughter needs car for school

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1996 Subaru Impreza LX
VIN JF1GM4557TH411163
Body Style 2 Dr Coupe
Country of Manufacture Japan


Vehicle History Checklist
Vehicle Description JF1GM4557TH411163
Title Check No records found
Problem Check No records found
Odometer Check No records found
Vehicle Information Records found
Full History Records found

 Title Check
Your vehicle checks out!

Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found
Damaged No Damaged Records Found
Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found
Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found
Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found
Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found
Junk No Junk Records Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found
Salvage No Salvage Records Found


 Problem Check
Your vehicle checks out!

NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found
Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found
Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found
Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found
Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found
Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found
Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found


 Vehicle Information
Problems Found!

Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found
Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found
Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found
Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found
Emission/Safety Inspection Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found
Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found
Government Use No Government Use Records Found
Police Use No Police Use Records Found
Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found
Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found
Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found
Theft No Theft Records Found


 Vehicle History Records
We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of 
insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 10 
records for this 1996 SUBARU IMPREZA LX. Note the highlighted rows for 
potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle.


Date Location Mileage Description
1996-02-01 old greenwich, CT 17 title
1996-02-01 old greenwich, CT  registration event/renewal
1997-10-21 old greenwich, CT  registration event/renewal
1998-09-17 old greenwich, CT  registration event/renewal
1999-10-26 old greenwich, CT  registration event/renewal
2000-12-05 CT 52000 passed emission inspection
2001-10-26 old greenwich, CT  registration event/renewal
2003-10-22 old greenwich, CT  registration event/renewal
2005-02-16 bridgeport, CT 91515 title
2005-02-16 bridgeport, CT  registration event/renewal


Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary)
Description Full Definition

Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV.
Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV.
Passed Emission Inspection Vehicle passed the state emission inspection.

 Highlights
Highlights from our Editors' Review of the 1993-2001 Subaru Impreza
The following summary includes recall and trouble spot information for 
several model years of this vehicle. Only information labeled 
"1993-2001" applies to this vehicle.


Consumer Guide Rating
N/A


Pros
Airbags, dual (later models), Optional antilock brakes, All-wheel drive 
(AWD models), Instruments/controls



Cons
Acceleration (early AWD models), Rear-seat entry/exit, Rear-seat room, 
Cargo room

Road Test Scores
Performance 3
Fuel Economy 6
Ride Quality 4
Steering/Handling/Braking 4
Quietness 4
Controls/Materials 5
Interior Room 4
Room/Comfort (rear) 3
Cargo Capacity 2
Value within Class 4
(all scores out of 10)

NHTSA Safety Ratings
Front Impact, Driver 4
Front Impact, Passenger 4
(all scores out of 5)
 Recalls
Check with the seller to ensure that the recall work was completed on 
these items.



1993: Fuel-filler system does not comply with federal leakage requirements.


1994-95: Inadvertent airbag deployment could occur after undercarriage 
contact of tow hooks with curbs, dips, speed bumps, etc.


 Trouble Spots
Check for these possible problems when test-driving and inspecting this 
vehicle.



Dashboard lights: The hydraulic motor for the ABS system runs with the 
key turned off, which illuminates the ABS warning light on the dash. 
(1993-96)



Engine misfire: Bucking and jerking at slow speeds on all-wheel-drive 
cars is due to a defective transfer clutch. (1993-97)



Engine noise: The knock sensors in the cylinder heads may fail, which 
can cause pinging under load. (1993-95)



Hard starting: The engine may be hard to start after sitting in cold 
weather because ice forms on the fuel injectors. (1993-96)



Hard starting: ImprezaNo-start or hard starting after sitting overnight 
in may be due to ice forming on the fuel injector tips. (1993-98)



Transmission problems: Flawed parking rod may allow vehicle to roll when 
placed in the Park. Rod must b

Re: [MBZ] 190E

[Donald Snook]

Ok Don wrote:

 

I thought you were looking for a bigger car, nota small one!

 

I am.  I have determined that I am going to have to just buy something,
so I can have something to drive while I look for the elusive SDL.
Since I sold my car to you, I can buy some winter beater to slosh around
in the snow without having to get the hose out and wash the underside of
my car every night.  

 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Its the 2005 version.  It came with printed out instructions, similiar 
to the ones you posted but not exactly.


Dave M. wrote:


I've never understood the fascination with the loopback adapter. I
have never needed one (don't even know what one would look like,
lol!). I've also not had any problems with it 'phoning home'. I'm
running XP SP2 with the firewall turned on, but it's never asked me
about allowing any EPC net traffic through. I wonder if all this jazz
is for an older version or something.

Kaleb, do you have the 04/2005 version or a different one? Did the
disc included the 'Read Me' file that I authored (sent a link in a
recent post), or did it have a different installation guide (possible
a MS Word document)?

+dm



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Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:08:30 -0600
From: Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

Kaleb,

Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
4. Start EPC install program.
5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
 of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
 MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy & Past that
number
 into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
 _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from
accessing
 the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
 that happens MB will shut it down.
7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC,
There are
 2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start.
Those services
 take a few min. to start up.

BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in
German
just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
is the same as the EPC.

If this doesn't work let me know.

Russ W.



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Re: [MBZ] ot, converting from FAT32 to NTFS

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

thanks

Loren Faeth wrote:


Here is the syntax:

To convert a FAT partition to NTFS, follow these steps:
1. Click Start, click Run, type cmd, and then click OK.
2. At the command prompt, type CONVERT driveletter: /FS:NTFS.
convert C: /FS:NTFS   is the syntax to convert the c drive.
3. Convert.exe attempts to convert the partition to NTFS.
While Convert is running, you WILL receive the following error message if 
you are converting the partition with the active OS:


Convert cannot gain exclusive access to the driveletter:, so it cannot 
convert it now. Would you like to schedule it to be converted the next time 
the system restarts (Y/N)? (Type Y)



You receive this error message under any of the following three conditions:
• If you run the CONVERT command while the current directory is on the 
drive that is to be converted (for example, if you type CONVERT F: /FS:NTFS 
at the F:\> prompt).


To resolve this, either click Yes in the error message and then restart the 
computer, or change to a directory on another drive and retype the command.



At 09:56 PM 11/7/2005, you wrote:


Is there some utility out there somewhere that can convert fat32 drive
to ntfs?  I know XP will do it on a new install but I already have it
installed and need to convert my drive over.  Any ideas?
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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

thanks, will let you know what happens.

Russ Williams wrote:

Kaleb,

Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
4. Start EPC install program.
5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
   of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
   MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy & Past that 
number

   into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
   _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from 
accessing

   the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
   that happens MB will shut it down.
7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC, 
There are
   2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start. 
Those services

   take a few min. to start up.

BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in 
German

just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
is the same as the EPC.

If this doesn't work let me know.

Russ W.



Russ Williams wrote:



Kaleb,

Yep there is a trick to it. My Indy has done it and the Secret.
I'll email him and get him to send it to me. I'll relay it to you.

I do know you have to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter before
installing.

Russ W.



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:




I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent 
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this 
monster?



  




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[MBZ] CarFax Request Please

[TimothyPilgrim]

VIN:  WDBAB93A4CN009765

It's my own wagon, but since I was the first to register it in
Ontario, there's no record of it up here and I didn't get anything
from its US owner.

Thanks in advance.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

[MBZ] Anyone have Carfax account - Non MB - Sorry daughter needs car for school

[RKMERCEDES]

Hi,

   Can anyone please run the following VIN for me?

JF1GM4557TH411163

Thanks!  My daughter needs a car for school and this all wheel drive 1996 
Subaru Impreza was for sale in the area!

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1983 300D 114K
1988 190E 126K
1990 300E 87K

Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

[frederick w moir]

Russ W.
Murky Buckets. (Ta very much).
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA



Fred,

I sent it to the List for all.

Russ W.

Re: [MBZ] Oil Sucker Fiasco

[Hans Neureiter]

I use an old metal gas can, the round type with the domed top, took the
spring loaded cap off the spout and screwed at the opposite side a 1/2"
compression fitting into the metal.
My 1 gal shopvac hose fits snug inside the pouring spout and a 1/2" black PE
tubing goes from the tubing fitting to the dipstick. To seal the 1/2" OD
tubing to the dipstick, I use a short piece of 5/8" OD Tygon tubing slipped
over the PE which seals inside the dipstick flare and also lets me know when
all the oil is out. Never had a problem with the PE tubing to collapse or
any carry-over to the shop vac. The oil is out in 2 to 3 minutes and than I
let it run for another 10 to 15 to clean up droplets in the oil pan.
All parts are scrounged up from surplus, so a cost estimate is irrelevant.

 On 11/7/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Your design appears to be in need of some revision re: the oil in the
> vac. Send me a pic and I will do some engineering consultation from
> afar using all this high-tech technology. Perhaps we will come up with
> V1.3 of the Oil Sucker, whilst using cast-off materials to keep its cost
> firmly in the $2 range, affordable to almost anyone worldwide!
>
> --R
>
> B Dike wrote:
>
> >I modified my setup and bought some 3/4" OD rubber coolant tubing and
> made an adapter to fit it into the dipstick tube. No problem with hot oil.
> Still getting oil spray inside the ShopVac but working well otherwise.
> >
> >Bruce
> >
> >Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >An interesting innovation, but I think that would drive the cost up to
> >maybe $5, which might be worth it to get hot oil (though you might need
> >a metal container to catch it in.
> >
> >I understand too that the inserted tube does not really need to go down
> >into the drain pan as the dipstick tube ends down there, so you really
> >only need to get it in the wider part at the top, and seal it for the
> >vac to work. That is about 5/8" ID I think.
> >
> >--R
> >
> >Loren Faeth wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I use a 3 foot length of 1/4 inch OD copper tubing, shoved into 1/4 ID
> PP
> >>hose. I like the solid thunk when the copper hits the bottom of the
> >>pan. It is a little harder to shove down the dipstick, but it does the
> job
> >>nicely. Neither has collapsed, and I vacuum out HOT oil.
> >>
> >>At 06:24 PM 11/5/2005, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I use that rigid poly tubing, seems to hold up fairly well with "warm"
> >>>oil (I have not tried it with HOT, duh!!!). But hey, it accomplished
> >>>the task, right?
> >>>
> >>>--R
> >>>
> >>>B Dike wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> Hot oil causes drain line to collapse. Shop Vac hose
> collapses. Oil sprays into ShopVac canister. Oil in
> shop vac hose leaks all over garage floor afterward.
> 
> BUT
> 
> Not a single solitary drop of oil remains in oil sump.
> Around here we call this success.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bruce
> 
> Bruce
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Re: [MBZ] Cracked #17 head!? (was: Portland wagon)

[Tom Hargrave]

You bring up a point that Marshall eluded to some time ago. How much head
cracking was actually caused by the #14 casting and how much by the trap
oxidizer that was run during the same time period?

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:07 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked #17 head!? (was: Portland wagon)


Good point, Dave.  For what it's worth, though, my #17 that blew
definitely did so on its own, so to speak---not because of
overheating.  The car overheated routinely after the head cracked, but
not before, and once the head was replaced it ran perfectly
again---i.e. the cooling system was NOT the culprit.  Pity I don't
have much maintenance history on the car.  I don't know exactly when
the original head was replaced, nor when the trap oxidizer recall was
done.  If there was an overlap, we could blame the trap for the #17
cracking.

On 11/7/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Before condemning the #17+ heads, you need to know the details behind
> the failure (re: that SDL with a bunch of cracks in a '17.)  Blowing a
> radiator hose and driving for an hour with the temp in the red and no
> coolant in the system will likely crack a #22 head also.
>

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?

[TimothyPilgrim]

But what is the intended outcome? What's the benefit?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/8/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> > What's with the 80's EGR "fix" using a ballbearing?
>
> I MUCH prefer disconnecting all vacuum lines to the EGR. A BB or ball
> bearing CAN leak.
>
> Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Cracked #17 head!? (was: Portland wagon)

[Alex Chamberlain]

Good point, Dave.  For what it's worth, though, my #17 that blew
definitely did so on its own, so to speak---not because of
overheating.  The car overheated routinely after the head cracked, but
not before, and once the head was replaced it ran perfectly
again---i.e. the cooling system was NOT the culprit.  Pity I don't
have much maintenance history on the car.  I don't know exactly when
the original head was replaced, nor when the trap oxidizer recall was
done.  If there was an overlap, we could blame the trap for the #17
cracking.

On 11/7/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Before condemning the #17+ heads, you need to know the details behind
> the failure (re: that SDL with a bunch of cracks in a '17.)  Blowing a
> radiator hose and driving for an hour with the temp in the red and no
> coolant in the system will likely crack a #22 head also.
>

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?

[Marshall Booth]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

What's with the 80's EGR "fix" using a ballbearing?


I MUCH prefer disconnecting all vacuum lines to the EGR. A BB or ball 
bearing CAN leak.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?

[TimothyPilgrim]

What's with the 80's EGR "fix" using a ballbearing?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/8/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You have an EGR!! Defeating it on a '90s diesel is difficult - requires
> some re-engineering - unlike defeating it on an '80s diesel. If your EGR
> isn't working as it should work - I suggest that you FIX IT!
>
> Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Cracked #17 head!? (was: Portland wagon)

[Marshall Booth]

Dave M. wrote:

Before condemning the #17+ heads, you need to know the details behind
the failure (re: that SDL with a bunch of cracks in a '17.)  Blowing a
radiator hose and driving for an hour with the temp in the red and no
coolant in the system will likely crack a #22 head also.

I'm not sure if ALL cracks are indicative of a junk head; I vaguely
recall that the ones from the valve to the prechamber are less of a
problem than the ones between the valve seats, or vice-versa. My head
had both types so I don't know which was causing my cold-high-pressure
symptoms (cured with a #22 head).


Many used OM60x heads will have cracks around the prechamber ports. They 
are USUALLY not a problem.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] OT 9cyl radial diesel aircraft engine

[Rory]

Hey Rory did you watch both versions of Flight of the Phoenix and
which one did you like?

The other Rory

On 11/7/05, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I never did find out the principal of the cartridge starting system, can
> anyone explain the details?
>
>
> Rory Morrison
> Oroville, WA
> 1985 300SD
> 1982 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow. Yeah, I was measuring the wrong thing entirely. Thanks, Marshall. I will check 
that. 

I was also surprised to see your reference. I went through the whole manual last 
week, and didn't see anything like that. Well, I learned something new about my 
manual tonight! I did not know about the programmed repairs. 


Found this interesting note:
Combustion noise (rumbling) when idling up to about 1300 rpm. 
---

Remedy:
Set start of delivery to 13 degrees after TDC
Replacing injection nozzles does not offer any remedy.
No further Remedy possible. 
---


This note applies to engines without EGR. I wonder if this could indicate an EGR 
problem? I believe I have EGR, but have not checked to see whether it is working. 
Non-functional EGR has always seemed like a good thing. to a rookie like me. 

I have not checked my timing, but there are no other symptoms of timing problems, 
so I don't suspect it. 

Maybe there is just no remedy. 


More after next weekend! Thanks again!


You have an EGR!! Defeating it on a '90s diesel is difficult - requires 
some re-engineering - unlike defeating it on an '80s diesel. If your EGR 
isn't working as it should work - I suggest that you FIX IT!


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Cracked #17 head!? (was: Portland wagon)

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 11/7/2005 3:14:41 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  curious as well. I have quite a few miles on the redone #17 head on
my 87  300D, and I have this nagging feeling it's going to need to come 
back off.  Oil consumption went WAY up, and it fits all of the symptoms of
valve guide  seals. The smoke out the back resembles oil in color.  The



Kevin,
 
For the 603 engines, Dave M was quick to warn that not all valve seals were  
the same and to use only factory replacement parts.   You may not have  had 
control over the seal selected for your rebuild.  I do think he  said they can 
be replaced with the head in place with the right valve spring  compressor.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 138 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] Removing Headrests from 123

[James Jetton]

My 82 300D had sheepskin covers that I needed to get off.  I had to remove the 
seatback cover, then WD40 the button.  After that I was able to get the 
headrest off.  I thought I was going to break the seat.  You'll need the 
seatback cover off if you want to remove the armrest as well.


James Jetton
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1987 560 SEL120k
1982 300D   240k
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Is there some utility out there somewhere that can convert fat32 drive 
> to ntfs?  I know XP will do it on a new install but I already have it 
> installed and need to convert my drive over.  Any ideas?

Partition Magic 8 does it - either way!

Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] Retard - was: Pulling to one side

[Luther Gulseth]

is the retard pulling the other side???

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:13:54 -0600, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thank you. Now I can once again get up at 6:30 am and head off to work.




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Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d

[Luther Gulseth]

Since when do human joins work perfectly when "new"?  I may not be a  
father, BUT I do know thisbabies ain't got it like a new car.  That's  
in your 20 somethings.  Geeze, old man, you're gettin a bituh


On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:41:29 -0600, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Marshall -

You said the operative word -- WHEN THEY WERE NEW.

T'aint like that anymore.

It's like me and you -- parts don't work like they used to when they were
new. And I have knees that will "testify" if you want them to.

Don






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Re: [MBZ] OT 9cyl radial diesel aircraft engine

[Rory]

I never did find out the principal of the cartridge starting system, can
anyone explain the details?


Rory Morrison
Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD

Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

[Russ Williams]

Dave,

Don't know about your version, But the one my Indy installed would
not work without the loopback adapter installed. He fought with it for
3 hours. 
As for "phoning home" one of the Indies in N.O. told buddy (My Indy)

at a MB Tech Class that he allowed his WIS & EPC to access the internet.
About 2 weeks after he installed it. He launched the EPC to look up a part.
A Screen came up to "WARNING YOU HAVE A PIRATED COPY OF THE EPC" Contact
MBNA for a Legal copy. Same thing for his copy of the WIS. This was on his
home computer w/Broadband connection. His Laptop at work that has the same
EPC and WIS installed and not connected to the Net is still running.

Go Figure.

Russ W.

Dave M. wrote:


I've never understood the fascination with the loopback adapter. I
have never needed one (don't even know what one would look like,
lol!). I've also not had any problems with it 'phoning home'. I'm
running XP SP2 with the firewall turned on, but it's never asked me
about allowing any EPC net traffic through. I wonder if all this jazz
is for an older version or something.

Kaleb, do you have the 04/2005 version or a different one? Did the
disc included the 'Read Me' file that I authored (sent a link in a
recent post), or did it have a different installation guide (possible
a MS Word document)?

+dm

 


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Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:08:30 -0600
From: Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

Kaleb,

Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
4. Start EPC install program.
5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
 of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
 MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy & Past that
number
 into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
 _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from
accessing
 the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
 that happens MB will shut it down.
7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC,
There are
 2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start.
Those services
 take a few min. to start up.

BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in
German
just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
is the same as the EPC.

If this doesn't work let me know.

Russ W.
   



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