[MMouse]: Juno Show
WOW Juno was just SO amazing - even better (and louder) than their CD. They mentioned that they took a break for four months. Arlie (lead singer) says they are going back into the studio this fall, should be done by X-mas, should be released by Feb. Heard four new awesome songs. He was VERY nice and funny!! They claimed their good friend was "standing in" in bass... H. SO SORRY I missed Welcome - didn't read your post in time :o( If you get a chance to see juno live, GO. Stace snip to whoever ask about juno, i'm assuming you're refering to the croc show, don't know much about them, except that they are supposed to give "passionate" performances, but make sure to get there early enough for the opening band, welcome, one of the best bands in seattle right now. really. snip
Re: [MMouse]: to people still responding to the led zeppelin thread
then what do you have to say about the RAND braintrust that started this whole mess? is every one expempt but you princess amy? no, princess amy already apologized and explained that what she did was stupid and tiresome in her email which she will now repost: as much as i love getting chewed a new asshole, i'm weak, so i'm gonna stop this asshole chewing right here! now this blesblok8 fellow had a good point to his email. he pointed out that i'm an idiot (or at least that i say stupid things!), that my opinions are wrong (see previous implication. it's essentially the same as this one), and that i rile people up. he's wrong about 2/3 of these implications, however: no, i'm not an idiot. when not writing meaningless emails to mailing lists, i actually say stuff that i care about! second, my opinions aren't wrong - that's why they're opinions. there's no way that they can be wrong. but he was right that i rile people up, and i apologize for that. i say things that i believe in my own personal experience to be true, and these words ends up getting blown out of great proportion because i throw around words carelessly for no good reason. do i do this with the intent of pissing everyone off? no. do i do this because i'm an idiot? no. i do it because i simply don't care, and thus i can never seem to learn my lesson to just *keep my mouth shut.* i should add that i do really believe the opinions that i give, otherwise this email will just make me sound like i have no point. so just for the record, i do believe this stuff that i write. i start things up not thinking shit is gonna hit the fan, but then of course it does, and for once even i find myself thinking "god amy, you did something completely tiresome and not worth all the crap that came along with it." have i, in my personal experience, seen a baby come out with disabilities because its mother drank alcohol during the pregnancy? no. that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. do i think led zeppelin is a good band that DIDN'T spawn cockrock? hell no, but these things that i write are my opinions and i've always tried to stress that as much as possible..not to mention that i can acknowledge the fact that other people do like led zeppelin and i won't hold it against them for that. so in a nutshell, i was offended when you said that i don't know what my opinions are, or that i'm saying stupid shit. how organized do you expect people to be online? do you, personally, write emails that are elegantly written and have all the information that you wish to give? because i'll tell you what, after almost four years of reading and responding to email, i can't keep up 100% anymore but i truly do envy anyone who can do that. basically what i'm trying to say is that even i know this time it was a little tiresome, and it hit me not only in an online sense but in an offline sense. it made me want to become more of an elegant writer and say things in taste, and that just because you feel a certain way due to personal experience, it may seem ridiculous to other people. the best i can do is to point out that there is always that choice to just ignore me and people like me, who simply don't think or care about what they write before they write it. i mean i don't feel like i made a huge ass out of myself or anything, because i can't fuel my own fire by just saying "led zeppelin blows goats." i have other people to thank for that, you know? ;) regardless it was something that could've been avoided. with that said, don't worry about getting any attacks, because i'm sure most everyone agrees with you - even i do. but consider the possibility that not everyone sits around their computer organizing their thoughts perfectly just to avoid pissing people they don't know off. i'll leave you all with a quote now by peter from office space: "it's not that i'm lazy, it's that i just don't care." - amy there i'm sorry blah blah - princess amy
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
In a message dated 7/24/00 8:24:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're a whiny fucking cunt. This is quite possibly the greatest statement posted to this list. Ever. -matt
[MMouse]: Favorite Mouse lines!
Hey everyone, I was just wondering what everyone's favorite lines from Modest Mouse songs are. No limit to the number, just interested in what people think. My personal favs are: "A third had just been made and we were swimmin in the water, didn't know it then was it a son, was it a daughter? and it occured to me that the animals were swimming, around in the water in the oceans in our bodies, and another had been found, another ocean on the planet, given that our blood is just like the atlantic, and how..." -Third planet and also: "More housing developments go up, named after the things they replace, so welcome to minnow brook, and welcome to shady space" -Novicain Stain. Looking forward to reading some responses, Ciao everyone! -Ben
Re: [MMouse]: the little guy was uncircumsized
so i'm with all the cats that are down with fargo... in high school i was a bit obsessive about things... movies being one of them... as the little ho says, i blew goats (not literally of course, but i'm not above sucking off a boy dressed as a goat maybe... any takers?)... so anyway, i think i saw fargo like 5 or 6 times in the theatre. and it was always because of marge (the policelady) eating the chicken fricasse with the asian guy. and he breaks down "you're such a pretty lady"... but it's just not normal english... it's the fucked up minnesotan shit... gots to love shit like that... i'm a jackass. hahahahahah i loved that scene. that's the best scene in any movie ever. that asian guy is like "you're such a pretty lady!" and she's just sorta like "uhh ok then." hahaha god that scene is so awesome. that and the scene in empire records (which is a movie that i absolutely hated, mind you) where mikey is high and he thinks gwar is asking him to join their band are the two greatest scenes ever ;) - the little ho
Re: [MMouse]: are we breathing?
I was there. Yes, Bright Eyes sucked, but I don't think it was the middle east's fault. It was Conner who broke his own string and Conner's equipent that was malfunctioning. And they said he had time for another song, but he didn't seem to care. I don't think he was really trying very hard to make the best of a bad situation. The only thing the Middle East did (or didn't do rather) that made me mad was not kicking out that fucking heckler in the back. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:52 PM Subject: [MMouse]: are we breathing? is everyone ok? anyone at bright eyes in boston last night? that show nearly broke my heart. i knew the middle east would find a way to ruin a perfect band. .mer.
Re: [MMouse]: are we breathing?
hecklers make the show better! it wasnt me but some comedy i enjoy. even though i dont know how bad the heckling was and it probally wasnt joking around. some good joking around heckling out of love is fun yea thats what i mean. ryan
Re: [MMouse]: are we breathing?
I was there. Yes, Bright Eyes sucked, but I don't think it was the middle east's fault. It was Conner who broke his own string and Conner's equipent that was malfunctioning. And they said he had time for another song, but he didn't seem to care. I don't think he was really trying very hard to make the best of a bad situation. The only thing the Middle East did (or didn't do rather) that made me mad was not kicking out that fucking heckler in the back. true, it was just kinda an off night. But, I've never been fond of the middle east...especially upstairs. The sound is awful and things always seem to go wrong that never go wrong anywhere else. Tonight was Mark Kozalek of Red House Painters. It was hot as hell with way too many people inside. And the best part was that during quiet songs you could hear the shit fom the Corner or Downstairs. awesome. Even he was getting pissed. It was still a good show, though. Boston is in deperate need of a better venue for small shows. .mer.
[MMouse]: LE modest mouse
hi, i am new, so i may have missed the information i am about to ask for, but... according to the up records web site there will be three limited edition modest mouse EPs. i've got the fist one, but does anyone know when the other two will be released? is it some sort of hush-hush type of thing? i haven't seen any info about release dates anywhere. so, i'm just wondering. if ths has already been discussed around here, feel free to drop me a private email. bye for now, -jason. p.s. - i sent this to an individual person instead of the list on my first time trying to send. i apologize to that person. oops. ___ **this message brought to you by: jason d. sheets email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.nwmissouri.edu/~s214560 (recently updated!) album of the day: lush - "gala" "That Sheets boy...no damn good."
[MMouse]: the little guy was uncircumsized
so i'm with all the cats that are down with fargo... in high school i was a bit obsessive about things... movies being one of them... as the little ho says, i blew goats (not literally of course, but i'm not above sucking off a boy dressed as a goat maybe... any takers?)... so anyway, i think i saw fargo like 5 or 6 times in the theatre. and it was always because of marge (the policelady) eating the chicken fricasse with the asian guy. and he breaks down "you're such a pretty lady"... but it's just not normal english... it's the fucked up minnesotan shit... gots to love shit like that... i'm a jackass. love and thugg life tatoos, leigh
[MMouse]: STICKERS
Fucking Christ, kids, the boy made stickers with his own cash, paid postage himself, and sent them first come, first serve. I'd hate to see some of you in a soup line. Jesus! Get a picture, go to Kinko's. Highly recommend Atombombpocketknife, if you can find it. They're getting pretty heavy rotation on 3wk.com (the best internet radio station EVER). Seeing Juno Saturday night... anyone know how they are live? Stace
[MMouse]: UNSUBSCRIBE
It was fun while it lasted but a few bad apples have spoiled this list for me. I'm going the way of Ruxx, far far far away. My parting thought is that Leigh's posts were always amusing and very well written. Leigh, if I am ever in California let's have coffee and talk about why the vaginally inclined hate us. See you kidz at the shows. Grace. PS UNSUBSCRIBE PPS someone please help me unsubscribe
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea,i mean it.
Epson Sticky Backed paper- 15$ for a pack of 25 Box of envelopes- 3$ box of 100 Stamps- 33cents a pop Modest Mouse kids being gready assholes- priceless christ kids KennelD posted the link to the picture(althought it didn't work), so you could print the goddamn thing yourself and he was producing these things himself for free and you have the balls to complain xdusty "three toed sloths are sluggish as fuck"
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
KennelD posted the link to the picture(althought it didn't work) yes, sorry. this should work: http://www.stormloader.com/kenneld/posse.gif
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
On 21 Jul 2000, at 8:51, Dusty wrote: Modest Mouse kids being gready assholes- priceless it should be noted that 99.99% of people who emailed me were very polite and patient.
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea,i mean it.
yeah, i didnt mean all modest mouse kids, but seamingly everytime a favor is done on this list, people get bitchy or in some cases completely fuck you over. I forget what the screen name was but i had set up a trade with someone from the list a burn of the Japanese Ep for a Promise Ring show, the promise ring show never showed up in my mail box. I would have given her the burn for free if she asked, but nope, shed rather fuck me over. I know most of us are the good kids but ive been eating up the bad apples it seems. dusty with the green apple quiksteps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Jul 2000, at 8:51, Dusty wrote: Modest Mouse kids being gready assholes- priceless it should be noted that 99.99% of people who emailed me were very polite and patient.
Re: [MMouse]: STICKERS
Fucking Christ, kids, the boy made stickers with his own cash, paid postage himself, and sent them first come, first serve. I'd hate to see some of you in a soup line. Jesus! Get a picture, go to Kinko's. Highly recommend Atombombpocketknife, if you can find it. They're getting pretty heavy rotation on 3wk.com (the best internet radio station EVER). Seeing Juno Saturday night... anyone know how they are live? Stace Juno is frickin' great live. Sometimes Arlie whines a bit on stage (more drama than I like), but if you like their cd you'll love the show. They haven't played much lately-probably trying to write some new stuff. I guess that Travis left and they have a new bass player. I really want to go but this singer/songwriter, Joseph Arthur, is playing at, of-course, the same time. And since he is from Ohio (via NYC) he hasn't been around much. Check him out: http:www.josepharthur.com http://www.lanset.com/kthalken/
Re: [MMouse]: STICKERS
Fucking Christ, kids, the boy made stickers with his own cash, paid postage himself, and sent them first come, first serve. I'd hate to see some of you in a soup line. Jesus! Get a picture, go to Kinko's. Highly recommend Atombombpocketknife, if you can find it. They're getting pretty heavy rotation on 3wk.com (the best internet radio station EVER). Seeing Juno Saturday night... anyone know how they are live? Stace Juno is frickin' great live. Sometimes Arlie whines a bit on stage (more drama than I like), but if you like their cd you'll love the show. They haven't played much lately-probably trying to write some new stuff. I guess that Travis left and they have a new bass player. I really want to go but this singer/songwriter, Joseph Arthur, is playing at, of-course, the same time. And since he is from Ohio (via NYC) he hasn't been around much. Check him out: http:www.josepharthur.com http://www.lanset.com/kthalken/
[MMouse]: oh for the love of christ
shut UP already! i would have unsubscribed already if reading through bullshit and deleting digests didn't give me something to do (now that i live at my parents'). i can't believe you could take the simple act of someone making stickers and turn it into a federal case. shut the fuck up, over! what gave you the idea that the world owed you anything? kate p.s. this isn't directed at you, though. i love reading your posts. = /// ... naked if i want to ... /// ::: http://www.zyworld.com/k8mercier/k8.htm ::: __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1063
Zach - You kick ass. I couldn't have mentioned a better set of movies...however, I am going to try to add four to your list... i have a few of my own house of yes (new) lolita american beauty rushmore office space the great gatsby music box the frances farmer story wayne's world citizen ruth beavis and butthead do america sarah, plain and tall eric carle book-movie strips (these two movies were movies i used to watch in elementary school) forrest gump et the opposite of sex yes..it's true, i like a lot of movies. those are my favorite. - amy
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1063
holy shit, you liked the new "lolita"? that was one of the worst movies i have ever seen. i enjoyed the kubrick version of it, but the new one was almost like HBO soft-core cheesy porn. the girl who played lolita (dominique swain?) was a good actor, as well as jeremy irons. but other than that, the movie was terrible. ~blake - Original Message - From: norske ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1063 Zach - You kick ass. I couldn't have mentioned a better set of movies...however, I am going to try to add four to your list... i have a few of my own house of yes (new) lolita american beauty rushmore office space the great gatsby music box the frances farmer story wayne's world citizen ruth beavis and butthead do america sarah, plain and tall eric carle book-movie strips (these two movies were movies i used to watch in elementary school) forrest gump et the opposite of sex yes..it's true, i like a lot of movies. those are my favorite. - amy
[MMouse]: Les Savys Fav
Does Les Savys Fav have a website?? .bagel.
Re:[MMouse]: stickers. celebrity sightings
no hablo ingleses amigo ... this is what amazing mr. sticker-man said to me when i asked nicely if he wouldn't mind sending me a couple stickers. does he not have the time? i would be overjoyed to pay for postage if he could do me this small favor. what do the rest of you who want a sticker think? ho hum francesca* -- Original Message From: ""[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: stickers. celebrity sightings Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:42:11 EDT the boy who sent me the stickers, you are amazing... the coolest thing i've seen all week was the stickers, so feel proud. and it was super nice of you to send it to everyone and pay for postage. on the topic of celebrity sightings... i dont know if hes minor..but i saw o.j. simpson at the mall...eeire isn't it?...my friend got his autograph for me...i just tried to to stay away. ahh reminds me of that fad of pog's...and the o.j. slammer shudder well thats it for now... -j. _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
Re:[MMouse]: stickers. celebrity sightings
Well Francesca, how very classy of you. I'm happy to send out stickers to anyone who wants some (even though I said I wasn't going to take any more requests), but don't act like you deserve them, or like I'm being an asshole if I respond to a request in a sarcastic way (especially when asking for a double order of stickers, like you did). Notice that I didn't say "no you can't have any stickers", I was just trying to think of an original response to sticker request No. 87. On 20 Jul 2000, at 3:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no hablo ingleses amigo ... this is what amazing mr. sticker-man said to me when i asked nicely if he wouldn't mind sending me a couple stickers. does he not have the time? i would be overjoyed to pay for postage if he could do me this small favor. what do the rest of you who want a sticker think? ho hum francesca* -- Original Message From: ""[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: stickers. celebrity sightings Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:42:11 EDT the boy who sent me the stickers, you are amazing... the coolest thing i've seen all week was the stickers, so feel proud. and it was super nice of you to send it to everyone and pay for postage. on the topic of celebrity sightings... i dont know if hes minor..but i saw o.j. simpson at the mall...eeire isn't it?...my friend got his autograph for me...i just tried to to stay away. ahh reminds me of that fad of pog's...and the o.j. slammer shudder well thats it for now... -j. _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
[MMouse]: SATISFACT REUNION?
i know there must be some other satisfact fans out there. i really wish they would get back together. i was so incredibly heartbroken when i found out they broke up considering they were my favorite band when they were still together. why would matt steinke want to break up such a great band? i saw modest mouse recently and seeing jeremiah drum in person makes me wonder what it would be like to see him drumming with satifact in person. it's just very sad. anyone else out there feel the loss that i do and like to see a reunion? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: commercial songs
ok...i know looper was used in a commercial for myfamily.com well now theres a few commercials that im dying to know who the band is thats in the background the one i can think of right now is a commercial for kodak max film where theres people playing soccer...kinda looks british...but to me the song sounds like it could be belle and sebastiananyone know...or know a place where i can find out what the song is?
[MMouse]: Dallas Morning News
I would just like to happily announce that when i opened my local paper's music sectio today, i saw a little mini-review on MM's album AND a full-sized article about SDRE (they are playing here tonight, i can't wait) right next to it! if you are at all familiar with the dallas indie-scene (or the lack-there-of) then you know what an amazing thing this is =) katherine
Re: [MMouse]: SATISFACT REUNION?
bands break up, and they usually do it because they would rather do other things, usually including being in other bands. sure satisfact rocked the motha grabbin hizouse, but it happens. ~blake - Original Message - From: Kiki Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 7:46 AM Subject: [MMouse]: SATISFACT REUNION? i know there must be some other satisfact fans out there. i really wish they would get back together. i was so incredibly heartbroken when i found out they broke up considering they were my favorite band when they were still together. why would matt steinke want to break up such a great band? i saw modest mouse recently and seeing jeremiah drum in person makes me wonder what it would be like to see him drumming with satifact in person. it's just very sad. anyone else out there feel the loss that i do and like to see a reunion? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: quick london shag.
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[MMouse]: bottle rocket vs. rushmore
it's a tough one. i can't decide which i loved more, 'bottle rocket' or 'rushmore.' bottle rocket was one-of-a-kind. to this day, i've never seen anything quite like it. it's so abstrusely funny and bizaar--full of perplexing scenes and dialogue. the tape on the nose, anthony's flourishing romance with inez, the yellow jumpsuit, etc. while 'rushmore' had plenty of these types of things, it somehow seemed more familiar to me; possibly because it had a definite harold and maude/the graduate feel to it. i wasn't immediately reminded of any movie while watching bottle rocket. 'rushmore' is great though. i think that wes anderson is one of our greatest hopes as far as directors go. i only hope he continues to make movies in the same vein as these two--not in your face humor and spoon fed story lines. as for owen and luke wilson, i didn't think they looked too much alike at all. they're not twins. i do know that they have made some crappy movies since bottle rocket--don't see 'dog park' and has anyone seen 'minus man'? i still don't know what i thought of this one. if anyone can recommend movies similar to these two, please do so. otherwise, i'll have to go see 'coyote ugly.'
Re: [MMouse]: bottle rocket vs. rushmore
on the run from jonny law..it aint no trip to cleveland. bottle rocket..hands down bry
[MMouse]: RE: Bottle Rocket and Other Delights
Warning, long, bored at work post about movies and what not. I lost my digest, but someone was talking about Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, Wes Anderson, Etc. I remember someone saying Bottle Rocket was 'strange'. I don't know if I would call it strange, but it is not your typical plot-driven movie so some people don't really see the point that the meat of the movie is in the underlying themes.. which aren't themselves very deep or hard to catch.. Dignan sums it up at the end when he says something like, "Funny you were in the nut house, now I'm in Jail".. how they were both not normal people or didn't want to conform and how you can end up.. and how that's not so bad.. and how maybe Anthony lost some of his craziness and gained some sanity and Dignan helped him with that by taking the rap for what they did... reminds me of, uhm, Midnight Cowboy, how Dustin Hoffman (Rizzo?) saves John Voight from himself but he himself loses (I won't spoil anything if you haven't seen it). A funny thing Wes Anderson said on IFC about Bottle Rocket... and he is a really funny guy.. was that the script to bottle rocket was not very well written and they really didn't know how to write one.. but when some critics liked the movie they called it 'character driven' instead of 'lacking plot'. I appreciate his self deprecating attitude, however he knows Bottle Rocket came out really great because not many movies walk that territory of being such fun character studies that don't have much of a plot to get in the way of that. Rushmore had both.. well drawn characters and some plot movement.. it's hard to pick my favorite between the two though.. I think in the long run Bottle Rocket would win out.. because it doesn't have so much plot.. if I watched them both 5 times Rushmore would probably get old because the plot is a bigger part and you know the plot so well it wears thinner faster. Which brings me to my last, and final point, about how much I love DRY MOVIES. I've got a little list in my head of my favorites and never have written them down but I should before I forget them. The driest movies you can watch are these: Paris, Texas - the scene where Harry Denton Stanton confronts his estranged wife, Natasha Kinksi will make your heart stop for about 15 mins which is about how long the scene seems to last where they look at eachother though this glass window of a peep-show booth. Fargo - Blood Simple is fairly dry, but Fargo is the driest thing the Coen Brothers have done. It could be drier than it is, but it's perfect the way it is so I can't complain. This is near the bottom of my dry films top ten list. Stroisek / Aguire the Wrath of God - Both by Werner Herzog, both really dry and foreign. One about a guy who come to American looking for a better life.. he buys a big American color TV. and trailer house on credit then gets it all taken away. Aguire is an outstanding movie also, it has Germans who are playing Spaniards. There is a scene that seems to be lifted from one of my favorite books, the original Tarzan story. It ends much like Stroisek.. one of the most incredible endings of any film ever created. If this is EVER on the big screen it must be seen. Panic in Needle Park - one of Al Pacino's first movies and one of his best. VERY, VERY dry movie. I don't think there is even a soundtrack, just cold grey streets and dingy apartments and sad people doing heroin. Lots of great performances in the film from people who I don't know their names. I think the female lead went on to play the nanny in the exorcist. Watch this when you want a dry one. Oh yeah, it's sort of a love story too. Almost. American Job - Chris Smith's first movie before his great documentary American Movie. This is dryer than dry, like me and Elwood Blues like their toast. It can be painful to watch, but it's also hilarious at the same time. I bet EVERYONE can relate to at least one of the jobs this guy has.. food service.. phone work.. a job you have to work late hours... 2001 / Barry Lyndon - Movies you can watch over and over. I've only seen the second half of Barry Lyndon (it's 3 hours), but I've seen it 3 times. I will finally get to see the first half in the theater soon. Eyes Wide Shut was certainly dry, but so.. inextricable? As not to be as much fun to watch, if indeed you do consider watching 2.5 hour dry movies fun like I do. Maybe if I figured it out I would include it. Bad Lands - Great dry movie! While no one could draw a bead on Thin Red Line, everyone should consider Bad Lands a masterpiece. It's a movie that you watch it a few times and you can think in your mind of most any scene and see it perfectly.. because unlike most movies now it's not composed of thousands of cuts.. it's very minimal in that aspect and it's beautiful and it so much does not follow the formula for road movies that was created by the various Bonnie and Clyde films. There is a short but priceless scene where Sissy Spacek and Martin
[MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
this is what amazing mr. sticker-man said to me when i asked nicely if he wouldn't mind sending me a couple stickers. does he not have the time? i would be overjoyed to pay for postage if he could do me this small favor. what do the rest of you who want a sticker think? ho hum francesca* READ SUBJECT. SEND STICKER. EMAIL ME WHOEVER IS SENDING ONE SO I CAN GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS. THANK YOU I HOPE MY CAPS ARE OVERWHELMING YOU WITH CONCERN ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SENDING ME A STICKER. - AMY
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
id kinda enjoy a sticker to. i would defintly do a sticker trade i have some stickers to send to very nice vinyl ones made by sticker guy himself. so whats up wtih the whole sticker thing i kinda skiped the whole thing cause i was traveling. let me know ryan
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
READ MY CAPS: NO MORE STICKERS FOR ANYONE. IF YOU WANT STICKERS, YOU CAN MAKE THEM YOURSELF. THE IMAGE IS AT HTTP://WWW.STORMLOADER.COM/KENNELD/IMAGES/POSSE.GIF. If you sent me a request before 8:00 today (July 20th) you'll get stickers; just be patient. However, if you're one of the very few people who got a little "pushy" (Norske Ho and Francesca, I'm looking in your direction), you can forget it.
[MMouse]: Band T-Shirts/posters
Alright, does anybody know of any sites to get good band t-shirts or posters
for any of these bands (i'm just copying it from my profile, but if you know
of others i might like...):
pavement, modest mouse, built to spill, pixies, silver jews, flaming lips,
weezer, elliott smith, dismemberment plan, death cab for cutie, neutral milk
hotel, bright eyes.
I know a lot of them are a stretch, but any information would be helpful.
Because my brother will soon be off to college, much needed wall-space will
be available (Pink Floyd/Doors/Led Zeppelin poster - ROT IN HELL'S
BASEMENT!!). All I have are 4 modest mouse posters (buffalo, lonesome, 2000
tour, this sweet one from the recent concert at the Metro in Chicago {did
anyone else buy it?}) and a small flaming lips one. And one can never have
too many t-shirts. I basically have all of the pavement/modest mouse shirts
that can be found online (at least i think) and the one keep it like a secret
built to spill shirt (will i be forced to buy the girl rock T-shirt that so
very strangely appeals to me?). Thanks.
-PAtrick
p.s. (also my initials) Sorry if you receive this message in the
Pavement/Modest Mouse digest also.
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
you know what [EMAIL PROTECTED], i'm sorry but fuck you. you are the most disgraceful person i have ever encountered online. i'm really sorry you think i'm so pushy, i made a simple request without knowing how fucking put out you are to be doing a favor for some people who might really enjoy what you have done for them. and you know what? i don't even want them. i hope you grow up soon. i think this pushy little girl is going to move on. enjoy your interesting modest mouse threads. francesca* -- Original Message From: ""[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it. Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 20:05:27 -0400 READ MY CAPS: NO MORE STICKERS FOR ANYONE. IF YOU WANT STICKERS, YOU CAN MAKE THEM YOURSELF. THE IMAGE IS AT HTTP://WWW.STORMLOADER.COM/KENNELD/IMAGES/POSSE.GIF. If you sent me a request before 8:00 today (July 20th) you'll get stickers; just be patient. However, if you're one of the very few people who got a little "pushy" (Norske Ho and Francesca, I'm looking in your direction), you can forget it. _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
[MMouse]: j.majesty
I was wondering if anyone has heard of this band. Somebody brought them up at the Yahoo Built to Spill club i think. I downloaded 30 second samples from cdnow and I can't really tell if they are good or not. They very well might be though. Yet they could also blow goats -Patrick
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
Come on, don't you think you're being a little bit rash?? Nevermind, of course you don'tbut you are. Look at the situation from his point of view..he's using his time, his resources, his money to send out hundreds of stickers. Did he have to? No. He volunteered to do this for us graciously, probably not expecting the large volume of responses he received. But, he did/is doing his best to accommodate everyone. Now, ungrateful, impatient, un-understanding people are complaining that they aren't getting what they want. I don't know you or your story so I won't pass judgement on anyone. But, when you say "I want, I want, I want", not to mention rudely, you aren't apt to get it unless you're a spoiled brat. Just something to take into consideration the next time you think about asking for something. No, I'm NOT accusing anyone of anything or forming impressions of anyone I don't know so don't write me on that issue. I'm just looking at what I've seen and telling you how it looks from my point of view -- not how YOU are, just how it looks. On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:17:57 -0500, wrote: you know what [EMAIL PROTECTED], i'm sorry but fuck you. you are the most disgraceful person i have ever encountered online. i'm really sorry you think i'm so pushy, i made a simple request without knowing how fucking put out you are to be doing a favor for some people who might really enjoy what you have done for them. and you know what? i don't even want them. i hope you grow up soon. i think this pushy little girl is going to move on. enjoy your interesting modest mouse threads. francesca* ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Re: [MMouse]: i want a fucking sticker. this is my second plea, i mean it.
you know, in [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s defense, he did offer if anyone wanted stickers several weeks ago, and severeal parties requested and got stickers, all because they asked nicely and waited patiently while someone was kind enough to do them a favor. people being rude to someone who is going out of his way to do something for someone is something that shouldn't be tolerated, so don't get mad. you know who you are. dany.
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1063
Zach - You kick ass. I couldn't have mentioned a better set of movies...however, I am going to try to add four to your list... the spanish prisoner. drama. written by david mamet. starring steve martin in his most unfunny role ever - perhaps his most brilliant work. the acting is great, and the plot and characters are even better! you know how when you watch a bad horror movie you always feel this urge to yell at the characters on screen? like "no, don't go in there, you'll die!" well, you'll want to do that during this movie, but in a really good way! just an incredible movie, and one of the best plots ever. i'm usually not a plot person. i'm definately more for bottle rocket than i am rushmore, but this movie has one of the best plots ever. fecking incredible. homicide. drama/mystery. written by david mamet. notice a theme here? starring william h. macy and joe mantegna. mantenga turns in a gem of a performance in this film about jews and anti-semitism in new york city. mantenga is a jewish cop torn between his heritage and his badge. again, a brilliant plot, but who would expect anything less from david mamet! not me. however brilliant the plot, it takes a back seat to the development of joe mantegna's character. david mamet rules. lulu on the bridge. drama. written/directed by acclaimed american author, paul auster. a quasi theme continues - literary film! starring harvey keitel, mira sorvino(swoon!), willem dafoe, and gina gershon. mira and harvey are the best parts of this movie, esp. mira who is brilliant and as always, beautiful. the movie is more like one of paul auster's novels than it is like his other two movies (smoke and blue in the face) which were mildly disappointing. so if you like paul auster's novels, you'll LOVE this movie. this is often available at blockbuster...but it's hard to find. the music of chance. drama/mystery. based on the novel by paul auster. the novel is probably my second favorite book ever (trailing only saul bellow's henderson the rain king) and the movie doesn't disappoint. starring james spader and mandy patinkin, the movie truly captures the self exploration of the books protagonist. i suggest you watch this movie if you want to be truly moved by the inner struggles of a real person. that's all from me. i'll go crawl back into a corner with my david foster wallace stories and rachel albums wishing for fall to come sooner. end.transmission john.bot v3.201
[MMouse]: warped tour bullshit
I hate people. explanation: I worked at the Warped Tour today. I was there with a radio station, and I couldn't believe how many wanna-be punk kids gave us shit for being "corporate." Did these morons not realize that the Warped Tour is now complete bullshit? In Boston it was sponsored by a local mainstream radio station for fuck's sake. Plus, all the shitty bands that played are radio-friendly rip offs of good bands. And some of them just fucking suck (bif naked). If I never see another pre-pubescent punk kid clutching a $25 concert ticket that was probably purchased by his parents (who probably work for a corporation) I'll be thrilled. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind fighting for a cause that you believe in. But these kids constantly contridict themselves.. I'm sure when their parents put dinner in front of them, they don't stop to bitch about where their parents got the money from. on the bright side: nofx was good. they're funny as hell. oh yeah, and green day set their drums on fire. no more complaining, mer. and thanks for the stickers again. some of us do appreciate it. we also like to say please and thank you.
[MMouse]: Whole bunch o' stuff
Okay, I've noticed that within the past few months on this list, there have been two major topical discussions that got people fairly passionate and riled up...the Fetal Alcohol Syndrom thread and the Led Zepplin thread, both of which, I noticed, were started by Amy. MY question is, Why bother? I think that with almost every post to this list, she demonstrates remarkably that she doesn't know shit. I know I get tired of reading things such as: but they spawned it. to me, they WERE the originals of cockrock. maybe that's the problem, maybe that's why i think why they blow goats..because to me, they ARE COCKROCK. - amy and I'm fairly certain that everyone else does as well. I wholeheartedly agree with whoever used the analogy that this was essentially like hearing a toddler cry. Most of us are mature people, maybe we should start taking the mature route and ignore blatantly stupid shit. No one is going to change her opinion in regards to this, especially when she doesn't seem to be sure what her own opinion is. I apologize if I sound like an elitist bastard, and I'd like to further apologize if this comes off sounding condescending or high-handed, but it's merely a suggestion. I know everyone hears stupid things from time to time, but sometimes it is just best to grit your teeth and ignore it. Yes, I am fully aware of the irony involved in the posting of this message, so please don't respond on that level. I am also aware that someone will say, "well, maybe you should just delete the messages with subjects that you don't want to read." Fuck that. I've tried that, and it winds up being more effort than it's worth. Anxiously awaiting attacks as a result of this letter -matt
[MMouse]: and then i said..fuck it!
as much as i love getting chewed a new asshole, i'm weak, so i'm gonna stop this asshole chewing right here! now this blesblok8 fellow had a good point to his email. he pointed out that i'm an idiot (or at least that i say stupid things!), that my opinions are wrong (see previous implication. it's essentially the same as this one), and that i rile people up. he's wrong about 2/3 of these implications, however: no, i'm not an idiot. when not writing meaningless emails to mailing lists, i actually say stuff that i care about! second, my opinions aren't wrong - that's why they're opinions. there's no way that they can be wrong. but he was right that i rile people up, and i apologize for that. i say things that i believe in my own personal experience to be true, and these words ends up getting blown out of great proportion because i throw around words carelessly for no good reason. do i do this with the intent of pissing everyone off? no. do i do this because i'm an idiot? no. i do it because i simply don't care, and thus i can never seem to learn my lesson to just *keep my mouth shut.* i should add that i do really believe the opinions that i give, otherwise this email will just make me sound like i have no point. so just for the record, i do believe this stuff that i write. i start things up not thinking shit is gonna hit the fan, but then of course it does, and for once even i find myself thinking "god amy, you did something completely tiresome and not worth all the crap that came along with it." have i, in my personal experience, seen a baby come out with disabilities because its mother drank alcohol during the pregnancy? no. that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. do i think led zeppelin is a good band that DIDN'T spawn cockrock? hell no, but these things that i write are my opinions and i've always tried to stress that as much as possible..not to mention that i can acknowledge the fact that other people do like led zeppelin and i won't hold it against them for that. so in a nutshell, i was offended when you said that i don't know what my opinions are, or that i'm saying stupid shit. how organized do you expect people to be online? do you, personally, write emails that are elegantly written and have all the information that you wish to give? because i'll tell you what, after almost four years of reading and responding to email, i can't keep up 100% anymore but i truly do envy anyone who can do that. basically what i'm trying to say is that even i know this time it was a little tiresome, and it hit me not only in an online sense but in an offline sense. it made me want to become more of an elegant writer and say things in taste, and that just because you feel a certain way due to personal experience, it may seem ridiculous to other people. the best i can do is to point out that there is always that choice to just ignore me and people like me, who simply don't think or care about what they write before they write it. i mean i don't feel like i made a huge ass out of myself or anything, because i can't fuel my own fire by just saying "led zeppelin blows goats." i have other people to thank for that, you know? ;) regardless it was something that could've been avoided. with that said, don't worry about getting any attacks, because i'm sure most everyone agrees with you - even i do. but consider the possibility that not everyone sits around their computer organizing their thoughts perfectly just to avoid pissing people they don't know off. i'll leave you all with a quote now by peter from office space: "it's not that i'm lazy, it's that i just don't care." - amy
Re:[MMouse]: Whole bunch o' stuff
you rock matt f* -- Original Message From: ""[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: Whole bunch o' stuff Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 02:36:19 EDT Okay, I've noticed that within the past few months on this list, there have been two major topical discussions that got people fairly passionate and riled up...the Fetal Alcohol Syndrom thread and the Led Zepplin thread, both of which, I noticed, were started by Amy. MY question is, Why bother? I think that with almost every post to this list, she demonstrates remarkably that she doesn't know shit. I know I get tired of reading things such as: but they spawned it. to me, they WERE the originals of cockrock. maybe that's the problem, maybe that's why i think why they blow goats..because to me, they ARE COCKROCK. - amy and I'm fairly certain that everyone else does as well. I wholeheartedly agree with whoever used the analogy that this was essentially like hearing a toddler cry. Most of us are mature people, maybe we should start taking the mature route and ignore blatantly stupid shit. No one is going to change her opinion in regards to this, especially when she doesn't seem to be sure what her own opinion is. I apologize if I sound like an elitist bastard, and I'd like to further apologize if this comes off sounding condescending or high-handed, but it's merely a suggestion. I know everyone hears stupid things from time to time, but sometimes it is just best to grit your teeth and ignore it. Yes, I am fully aware of the irony involved in the posting of this message, so please don't respond on that level. I am also aware that someone will say, "well, maybe you should just delete the messages with subjects that you don't want to read." Fuck that. I've tried that, and it winds up being more effort than it's worth. Anxiously awaiting attacks as a result of this letter -matt _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
[MMouse]: tight pants ++
this is just a note to tell ya that the murder city devils will be playing with the yo yo's the catheters at the side door in st louis on monday august seventh. be there. xo slow as cake
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1049
In a message dated 7/15/00 11:40:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: forget the mouse!! in reading the ticketmaster page for ks, i have found that motley crue, megadeth, and anthrax are ALL coming to play together in august. i am so jazzed. and opening for them on most of the shows is a band called loudermilk from my old hometown. they're okay (if you like the rock, with just a bit of androgyny), but certainly misplaced on that bill. star
[MMouse]: re: celebrity sightings
In a message dated 7/16/00 5:37:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: michael j anderson is not minor. but i s'pose it's all relative. and i have to say, one of the first that i "celebs" i ran into was owen wilson, post-bottle rocket, when anaconda was the only crappy film he had been in to date. minor to most, but i was pretty excited. star I find it comical that no one who lives in LA ever has actual encounters with real celebritys, only minor ones. Like, my sister saw Bruce Willis driving today, but its The Chick From Species who lives on our street...
Re: [MMouse]: Whole bunch o' stuff
In a message dated 7/19/00 7:04:14 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, I've noticed that within the past few months on this list, there have been two major topical discussions that got people fairly passionate and riled up...the Fetal Alcohol Syndrom thread and the Led Zepplin thread, both of which, I noticed, were started by Amy. MY question is, Why bother? you say that the two things that got people riled up and passionate were started by one person as if thats an insult to her...if i was amy i would take your letter as more of a compliment than anything...its too bad more people in this world, or on a smaller level on this list, cant get people to be passionate and riled up...i say everyone should listen to amy...anyone who pisses this many people of with some opinions or lack thereof is cool *gary*p.s. people should also listen to eminem more...they would ironically be a lot more happy
[MMouse]: Beatles on the Pavement
In a message dated 07/18/2000 7:38:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm so serious... horribly, bone-chillingly serious. read very carefully: I DON'T LIKE THE BEATLES AS MUCH AS I LIKE PAVEMENT. That is what's known as an opinion, and you can't argue with an opinion; there's no point. You're totally right, no one can be sick for expressing their opinion. I could add as a big Pavement fan, however, that the breadth of style in what Malkmus/Spiral/Ibold write for hooks is much more limited than the breadth of hooks that the Beatles (and many other bands, for that matter) wrote. I think if you ran some kind of official statistical analysis of their music, you could state that as an objective fact. But that doesn't mean that someone can't think Pavement is the epitome of pop music for the style they use. Loring Wirbel Monument, Colo. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes
i think people that can relate to the vocals and the music could just be depressive? cause the lead singer is. and i think that may be why i like it.
Re: [MMouse]: Whole bunch o' stuff
you say that the two things that got people riled up and passionate were started by one person as if thats an insult to her...if i was amy i would take your letter as more of a compliment than anything... No kidding. This place, and the world in general, would be pretty boring if we all just said the earth is round and what goes up must come down (so to speak).
Re: [MMouse]: tight pants ++
hehe, i was there like 2 weeks ago. but not in st louis. in orange country, california. ~blake - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 2:41 AM Subject: [MMouse]: tight pants ++ this is just a note to tell ya that the murder city devils will be playing with the yo yo's the catheters at the side door in st louis on monday august seventh. be there. xo slow as cake
[MMouse]: one time
everyone talks about bands so ill just do this once and be done with it here is what i like. im sure i left some out. Mineral, the gloria record, THE SMITHS, morrissey, pedro the lion, appleseed casts, pop unknown, bright eyes, sunny day real estate, the promise ring, modest mouse, the get up kids, jejune, braid, antarctica, brandston, sundays best, joan of arc, weezer, at the drive-in, jimmy eat world, the anniversary, hum, red stars theory, christie front drive, boys life, errortype 11, death cab for cutie, texas is the reason, one line drawing, starflyer 59 triple fast action, pollen, quicksand, jets to brazil, the juliana theory. huntington, superchunk, star 69, sam i am, digger, burning airlines, mogwai, whippersnapper, pulley, ten foot pole, face to face, strung out, propagandhi!, nofx, guttermouth, diesel boy, no use for a name, millencolin, the ataris, blink, lagwagon, pennywise, sublime, mxpx, unwritten law, suicide machines, homegrown, bloodshed, overcome, downset, salmon... ok that shoud be it.
Re: [MMouse]: Beatles on the Pavement
On 19 Jul 2000, at 10:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 07/18/2000 7:38:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm so serious... horribly, bone-chillingly serious. read very carefully: I DON'T LIKE THE BEATLES AS MUCH AS I LIKE PAVEMENT. That is what's known as an opinion, and you can't argue with an opinion; there's no point. You're totally right, no one can be sick for expressing their opinion. I could add as a big Pavement fan, however, that the breadth of style in what Malkmus/Spiral/Ibold write for hooks is much more limited than the breadth of hooks that the Beatles (and many other bands, for that matter) wrote. I think if you ran some kind of official statistical analysis of their music, you could state that as an objective fact. You're probably right. Like in the movie "Dead Poet's Society" where they have that poetry book about plotting the greatness of a poem on a graph, I'm sure if you did something similar for The Beatles and Pavement, The Beatles would be deemed a better band. For me though, music boils down to "what do I enjoy listening to the most?" and in my case, that's Pavement. Looking at music analytically seems terribly depressing and sterile. I wonder how many people who contend that The Beatles are the greatest band in the world actually listen to them more than any other band. I've actually heard people say "yeah, I don't really like The Beatles, but they ARE the greatest band of all time"... I mean, what the fuck?
Re: [MMouse]: re: celebrity sightings
In a message dated 7/19/00 6:34:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd be excited... "Bottle Rocket" is one of my two or three favorite movies ever. Cawww! Cawww! fucker, you beat me to it. you'll pay. thanks for the stickers, by the way. .mer.
Re: [MMouse]: re: celebrity sightings
but i s'pose it's all relative. and i have to say, one of the first that i "celebs" i ran into was owen wilson, post-bottle rocket, when anaconda was the only crappy film he had been in to date. minor to most, but i was pretty excited. shit, that's not minor. If I ran into Owen Wilson, I think I'd hide somewhere nearby and yell, "Cacaww, cacaww." Dignan has to be one of the greatest characters created. Ever. .mer.
[MMouse]: RE: Zeppelin
Thanks for this post.. I feel like I can rest easier without having to take 30 minutes out of my work day to come up with another useless retort on this Zeppelin 'discussion' as you aptly called it. You said what I was thinking, so I think I'm done. :--- : :"The reverberations from those days run through most of what passes for rock : :and roll in the 1990's. Led Zeppelin has never been more popular, more :pervasive more... omnipresent. They broke up ten years ago, but you :wouldn't know it by listening to the radio. Not since Elvis joined the army has an audience so completely refused to acknowledge an artist's inactivity." :-Cameron Crowe 1990 : :It's difficult to refute ignorance. This I will admit. The first post in
[MMouse]: Weezer Ticket in Seattle
I have ONE ticket to see Weezer in seattle on Sunday the 23rd. It's at the ShowBox. Same place Modest Mouse played in Seattle last. Anyway, if you're interested make me an offer I can refuse. Neil Johnston Contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MMouse]: RE: Whole bunch o' stuff
High Five Matt!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: read it and weep:
http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/indierock/indierock.html don't say I never tried to help you, *phiL* __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: i'll rock yer cock
a couple things that i think involve the cock rockin: **michael jackson... we all saw that dood grabbin his balls like they were on sale for 75%... he also likes to rawk the hairless (aka fresh) cock. **dildos and lesbians or dildos and no lesbians... dildos are faux cock rock... but they be rocking the faux cock like there ain't no tomorrow. **playing the air guitar on your penis... that's madd cock rock... extra points for chord changes or playing air bass instead. **nature made stone phalluses... if you don't know what i am talking about, i'll shove that shit in you and then you might get a piece **tom of finland... nothing like big gay dicks on hairy men to rock my non existant cock **me having sex with yer dad i'll be rockin his cock into next week on a different note... i may be digging my own grave by saying that i have seen both the rolling stones and jimmy page and robert plant in concert... i was in high school, so my youth might explain my stupidity... granted they are bands that are beyond their prime, they were both interesting shows... at the page/plant one i had an old lady constantly grinding her snatch on the back of my head... nothing could have been less erotic. and i disagree with saying that they are cock rock, because i think that there are better examples of bands that would have spawned cockrock... but that's just my opinion... and i think the whole arguement is pretty rediculous... but, what do i know... i did attend a showing of the largest cock possible... anyway kiddies, throw the stone if you like... kissie kissie. love and mac machines, leigh
[MMouse]: nooz you can't yooz
Hey! I'm moving to Austin. See you Cap City-ites next month. After I get back from Australia. Woo! Melanie
Re: [MMouse]: read it and weep:/how to be indie
this was posted before within the last 3 days, but I will let that slide for three reasons: 1) it wasn't about "cockrock" 2) it wasn't about how it wasn't cockrock 3) Phil Smoker is easily my most favorite member of this list...and I don't even know the guy, but I always find his posts extremely well thought out, never off the cuff, RARELY redundant, but always worth reading. We all could learn miles from Philip Smoker. if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. if you can't say something smart, you post 6 million messages a day. Sincerely bitchy, J. Tother Philip Smoker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/indierock/indierock.html don't say I never tried to help you, *phiL* __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ __ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com
Re: [MMouse]: re: celebrity sightings
but i s'pose it's all relative. and i have to say, one of the first that i "celebs" i ran into was owen wilson, post-bottle rocket, when anaconda was the only crappy film he had been in to date. minor to most, but i was pretty excited. i saw "bottle rocket" about a month and a half ago. it was...strange. i'm not sure what i think of the movie itself to this day. i know that it's no "rushmore" by any means, but that i love the characters. dignan(sp?) was one of the most brilliant characters from a movie that i've ever seen, and the fact that the two friends looked so much alike but were only friends cracked me up. there's like little to no difference between them physically, at all. the only way i'd be able to tell them apart was by their hair. i wonder if they did that as a joke or if they actually think they look different from each other. does anyone know if they're twins (luke and owen) or just brothers? - amy
[MMouse]: a message from RUXX
Hey Gang, Russ wanted me to let you guys know that he unsubbed from the list. He had this to say, "It was fun while it lasted...peace out". If you'd like to drop him a line... e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or talk to him on AIM: ya rzre ven je -w-
[MMouse]: These stickers are yummy
Cool stickers bro. Thanks a lot. My mom and step-dad were gathered around me when I opened it because they thought it looked very suspicious (*sigh*). The sticker on the envelope is cool and made me feel very special as my name was typed. I am awaiting my paycheck to go cd shopping for more Dismemberment Plan cds... -Patrick
Re: [MMouse]: Beatles on the Pavement
I was just wondering. How would the amount of hooks in GbV's catalogue compare to the Beatles'? Ben
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes
opinion is the perfect word choice. Wow, that's deep. I just meant that brilliant was a bad word choice. Passionate is a better one. Phil
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes
i hope that you are not being facetious. dany. -- the zine. fsoa. http://members.tripod.com/~pastworn/fsoa.html the tape label. (coming soon). pleasesleep records. the other e-mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] np: SDRE "The Rising Tide"
[MMouse]: damn, yo
this was posted before within the last 3 days, but I will let that slide for three reasons: Oh, it was? Sincerely, I didn't realize that because... if you can't say something smart, you post 6 million messages a day. ...exactly. I have an ant farm of MM digests collecting in my mailbox, the mass of which are threatening to block out the sun. I'm not complaining, just defending the repeat URL. My bad, yo. RARELY redundant You lost me on that one. We all could learn miles from Philip Smoker. You should learn directions from me first. *=*=*=*=**=*=*=*=**=*=*=*=* ¡ACHTUNG! Go buy Styles of Beyond, "Fold 2000." This disc is red frickin' hot. And buy Do Make Say Think as well, a great disc. And Idyll Swords while you're already there. *=*=*=*=**=*=*=*=**=*=*=*=* I have too many digests in my mailbox (what does it all mean?), *phiL* __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: Re: pret a porter bad rap/dancehall song
i see all of thise talk about "ben savage" and all, but never bothered to read the letters. however it made me wonder, does anyone like "the kevin arnold syndrome"? just a thought. ~blake - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Re: pret a porter bad rap/dancehall song In a message dated Sun, 16 Jul 2000 8:28:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "norske ho" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Fred Savage, yelling at a plain looking girl, at a staged reading starring Ben Savage as i think of fred savage growing into his mid-20s, i sit on my fat ass and ponderjust how big has his nose gotten? secondly, why was he yelling at a plain looking girl? - amy Fred Savage has an entire harem of plain-looking girls. Karina
[MMouse]: Anyone listened to this?
found this while slinking about the web. "THE UNACCOMPANIED VOICE: AN A CAPELLA COMPILATION CD (SC07) An album dedicated to a tradition routine so common to our everyday lives yet so rarely captured to tape. Featuring some of the most distinctive voices in music today, all without instrumental accompaniment. Featuring Appendix Out, Richard Buckner PW Long (duet), Danielson Famile, Drunk, Dave Fischoff, the Grifters, David Grubbs, Jandek, the Japonize Elephants, Jarboe, Damien Jurado, Suzanne Langille, Nikki McClure, Modest Mouse, the Panoply Academy Die-Cast Cadets, Pedro the Lion, Elliot Sharp, Songs: Ohia, Swearing At Motorists and Mia Doi Todd, as well as the voices behind God Is My Co-Pilot, Low, Red House Painters and Two Dollar Guitar. Available June 5, 2000. " anyone heard it? is it any good? it's got a lot of people who (whom?) I like. Jake
[MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
Girlfriend, are you crazy?! Led Zeppelin is responsible for the GOOD things we like now... whenever you hear a bowed instrument played in a rock song (Nirvana, Modest Mouse) you can thank Jimmy Page. And also thank them for taking inspiration from non-Western music in making a lot of their music.. and for experimenting with keyboards and theremins in their rock... A ton of great bands show open influence of Zep.. mainly the Flaming Lips and Soundgarden...Beastie Boys.. and others... Anyways, blaming Zep for cock rock is like blaming Jaws for Twister and Volcano or Pyscho for the Hand that Rocks the Cradle. One thing might have led to the other, but don't blame the originals for what came after! Also while many of their songs were about sex and booze, their lyrics were nothing like the cock-rockers were. If I had to point fingers I would point at AC/DC, God Bless 'Em. Songs like Big Balls led the way for a whole new breed of suck, like the Crue, and Ratt, who I loved btw. I don't know how you could listen to songs like Kashmir, or In The Light, Traveling River Side Blues.. and even THINK of Cock Rock!! Now I'm just ranting - Zep might have been the most talented band ever - Unlike bands today where one member carries the rest of the band for the most part IE Nirvana, Modest Mouse, Pavement (my favorite bands) they were a balanced attack. I guess it didn't hurt they sold their souls to the Devil. I can perhaps concede that Zep changed music and less talented imitators might have filled the gap that Zep left between themselves and the rest of music.. but I can't see anyone saying nothing good came from Zeppelin... the same argument could apply to Nirvana.. it's only because of Nirvana I had to put up with the likes of Bush and STP.. but it's also because of Nirvana we got a lot of good music. So hate tha game, but don't hate tha playa's. p.s. I think I'm too old for brite eyes too. As for 80's music, it did kind of suck.. and I grew up with it.. sure.. I loved Michael Jackson and Duran Duran but there are not a lot of bands who I see as leaving a permanent mark on music that came from the 80's.. maybe the Talking Heads.. but a lot of their stuff doesn't hold up that well now even.. I'll always remember it for the hip-hop that came out of the mid-late 80's.. RUN DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Eric B. and Rakim, EPMD, NWA, Grand Master Flash, LL, and on and on.. I pretty much got out listening to rock for many years because hip hop was so good then and rock wasn't, or at least the rock I had access to. i was pretty obviously talking about the correlation between led zeppelin and the corporate rock (ie cockrock) of the 80s...there was nothing good that came out of led zeppelin, that's the point i was trying to prove. and it's true, nothing good came out of led zeppelin ;) - amy -- -=-Za c h 's -=- Home Page for Dummies http://fc.net/~zachd -=- Radio Frank - Shoutcast - http://fc.net/~zachd/main.htm - 209.217.181.109:8000
[MMouse]:
Am I seeing things or are people bashing led zeppelin? I can't believe this. Do you have any idea how many of your favorite bands were influenced by zeppelin? Tons and Tons. Why? Cause they're awesome. Who cares if they're cheesy with long hair and no shirts. For god sakes, Doug Martch of Built to Spill is like an old man with a balding head and a beard. It's all about the music. I think we all know that. We all have our opinions. To each his own. That doesn't mean I have to like it though. You are all my sweet bitches, neil
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
fuck that. fuck "thanking" bands for their influence. fuck led zepplin fuck the beatles. fuck the rolling stones. fuck bob dylan. fuck the velvet underground. that stuff was original and groundbreaking in it's own time and that's great, but guess what? i wasn't around then and it sounds boring now. issac brock writes better lyrics than lou reed. pavement writes better hooks than the beatles. doug martsch is a better guitarist than jimi hendrix. of course the beatles we're unimaginably ground-breaking when they first appeared; nothing had been done yet... the possibilities for innovation where unlimited. but look at modest mouse: 40 years later, look how far they're pushing the miniscule amount of uncharted territory they have to work with. the rolling stones have been making the same fucking album over and over for 30 years, but no one gives a shit about their new stuff. is it because mick jagger is getting worse? no, it's because the dismemberment plans and modest mouses of the world are the ones making progress now, and what worked 20 or 30 years ago doesn't cut it today. simply put: it's not as good. "out with the old and in with the new", that's what I say! On 18 Jul 2000, at 9:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Girlfriend, are you crazy?! Led Zeppelin is responsible for the GOOD things we like now... whenever you hear a bowed instrument played in a rock song (Nirvana, Modest Mouse) you can thank Jimmy Page. And also thank them for taking inspiration from non-Western music in making a lot of their music.. and for experimenting with keyboards and theremins in their rock... A ton of great bands show open influence of Zep.. mainly the Flaming Lips and Soundgarden...Beastie Boys.. and others... Anyways, blaming Zep for cock rock is like blaming Jaws for Twister and Volcano or Pyscho for the Hand that Rocks the Cradle. One thing might have led to the other, but don't blame the originals for what came after! Also while many of their songs were about sex and booze, their lyrics were nothing like the cock-rockers were. If I had to point fingers I would point at AC/DC, God Bless 'Em. Songs like Big Balls led the way for a whole new breed of suck, like the Crue, and Ratt, who I loved btw. I don't know how you could listen to songs like Kashmir, or In The Light, Traveling River Side Blues.. and even THINK of Cock Rock!! Now I'm just ranting - Zep might have been the most talented band ever - Unlike bands today where one member carries the rest of the band for the most part IE Nirvana, Modest Mouse, Pavement (my favorite bands) they were a balanced attack. I guess it didn't hurt they sold their souls to the Devil. I can perhaps concede that Zep changed music and less talented imitators might have filled the gap that Zep left between themselves and the rest of music.. but I can't see anyone saying nothing good came from Zeppelin... the same argument could apply to Nirvana.. it's only because of Nirvana I had to put up with the likes of Bush and STP.. but it's also because of Nirvana we got a lot of good music. So hate tha game, but don't hate tha playa's. p.s. I think I'm too old for brite eyes too. As for 80's music, it did kind of suck.. and I grew up with it.. sure.. I loved Michael Jackson and Duran Duran but there are not a lot of bands who I see as leaving a permanent mark on music that came from the 80's.. maybe the Talking Heads.. but a lot of their stuff doesn't hold up that well now even.. I'll always remember it for the hip-hop that came out of the mid-late 80's.. RUN DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Eric B. and Rakim, EPMD, NWA, Grand Master Flash, LL, and on and on.. I pretty much got out listening to rock for many years because hip hop was so good then and rock wasn't, or at least the rock I had access to. i was pretty obviously talking about the correlation between led zeppelin and the corporate rock (ie cockrock) of the 80s...there was nothing good that came out of led zeppelin, that's the point i was trying to prove. and it's true, nothing good came out of led zeppelin ;) - amy -- -=-Za c h 's -=- Home Page for Dummies http://fc.net/~zachd -=- Radio Frank - Shoutcast - http://fc.net/~zachd/main.htm - 209.217.181.109:8000
Re: [MMouse]: your mom has a pussy
leigh, i warned you, you know whats gonna happen when i get home tonight, just rememember to have some ice bags in the freezer cause your gonna get to meet the pussy that i have on the back of hand. you thought elbows to the eye hurt? You aint never felt nothin like a desert dry back of the the hand pussy as it slaps you across the face. a tactical attack on my new balances is grounds for black eyes and bloody knuckles. also you may have forgotten **issac brock has a pussy** (isacc is from '80s New Jersey style) i bet you all didnt know that isacc was a founding member of the rockinist '80s hair band of all --- faster pussycat --- he yeah!!! and you thought nothing good came out of the '80s. so all you girls go for that extra inch on the mall hair and go get your white leather boots from the storage closet cause i smell reunion tour. dusty with the pussy lip fists of fury "this is like doing a desert **issac brock has a pussy** (emo style) we all know that emo boys have a vagina beating deep in their hearts... you see the sweaters, you see the tight dark jeans, you see the new balances, you see the balck rimmed glasses... and if you were wearing ultra x-ray glasses, you'd see the madd crazy box beating inside his heart... so you know some one who saw issac on the street and they saw them with the sweater, the dark jeans, the new balances, the dark glasses and (*gasp*) the emo/sassy gay boy lunch pail... this spotting is as important as spotting the ever illusive yeti... who knew that indie, holes in my shirt, issac brock liked the comfort of running shoes and the convienence of a roomy lunch box to carry around his wares. **issac brock has a pussy** (animal style) you're crazy and you stole his cat... damn crazy cat ladies, fuckin up docter brocker's shit. **issac brock has a pussy** the night you moved into yer parent's house you got a liitle tipsy and wandered into a random bed... maybe you were kinda lonely and you went looking for some of the crazy sausage... but oh no missy, you found out that not only does your mom look like issac when yer wasted, but that issac kicks it womb style... and "issac" doesn't like to snuggle afterwards. but no, i was deceived... kate led me to believe that something good was going to come from reading that piece... but no, i just know that you've got stickers to deface binders and composition books and lockers with... *humph* i think i could sue you for something miss mercicrap... you'll be hearing from my lawyer, aka mista brick through yer window. *kiss kiss* sugar hips. love and wafffle cookies chased with a heaping helping of homewerk, leigh
Re: [MMouse]: good 80's music
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i wouldn't go looking for decent music by listening to the smiths, duran duran, or the chameleons ;) even the elvis costello thing bugs me. are you completely insane or am I misunderstanding this? here here! (or is it supposed to be "hear! hear!"? i've always wondered...) it's bad enough denying the Zep, but denying Elvis is inexcusable...i hate to harp on the age thing again, but i do think that years (or the experience that comes with it?) leads to a broadening of horizons and wider appreciation (esp. music wise) as there were plenty of bands/artists i thought sucked in my teens that i love and appreciate now (Zep and Elvis included). i'm not saying you will ever like Zep, but maybe learn to appreciate things down the road that you do not now. (as for Elvis, he's a genius, end of subject, and Zep are just good ol' rock and roll). and you can't blame Zeppelin for all the sucky bands that came after them. thats like blaming sonic youth for all the sucky bands that imitate them. blame the music industry. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: regarding led crappelin and my sanity(or lack of)
From: "norske ho" [EMAIL PROTECTED] led zeppelin and the rolling stones, beatles, etc do NOT fall into the same genre. they just don't. led zeppelin had the long hair, no shirt, icky/cheesy music a) can you base this argument on how they looked? "long hair, no shirt"? i don't think the Beatles looked "cool" half the time, but that didn't affect the quality of the music they put out. b) i was under the impression we were talking about opinions, not facts. i.e., you think Zeppelin sucks, most ppl don't. and if i think they do fall into the same category as the Beatles than they do, in my mind, and if they don't in yours, so be it. but you can't define that for other ppl. i happen to like those bands, and they probably did influence some really shitty bands, but those bands themselves were good. therefore, i can't see a real problem :P oh i s! if YOU like the band, then they can't be held responsible for inspiring shitty bands? but if you DON'T like the band (Zeppelin), then they can be held responsible? you are making NO SENSE. well the thing that irks me is that not only do i really hate led zeppelin, but they also had great influence on other shitty bands. Most cock rock and hair bands cam way after Zep hit their Coda. but they were influenced by led zeppelin! maybe instead of blindly hating something, you should try to UNDERSTAND why something was influential. here is an example: i am not a fan of lots of bands/artists or types of music [examples: Prince, Elvis Presley, Hendrix, Joy Division, country/blues, etc] BUT i can understand and appreciate why they were important/influential. they were usually breaking new ground, being creative/innovative, etc, although the particular style/sound/whatever is not palatable to me. I bet there are very few performers you like that didn't like Zep at some point. yes..which makes me very happy, because then i'm not listening to led zeppelin-influenced music ;) u hello? i don't think you quite got what they were stating. to kneexsocks: are you completely insane or am I misunderstanding this? did i phrase that badly, or do you just think i'm insane for hating the smiths, duran duran, the chameleons, and not especially enjoying the work of elvis costello? please elaborate. i just think you are insane. but that's just my opinion, not a fact. i do recall using "in my opinion" or something to that extent repetitively throughout this thread hmmm...i don't recall that. but i do recall you saying "it's true" a lot when referring to your opinion of Zeppelin __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: elvis?
Ok, so I'm not gonna continue on with the Led Zeppelin discussion, since I'd rather not take sides and fuel the fire. However, I do think Led Zeppelin has some beautiful work(s). I by no means have pursued listening or buying any of their stuff in the past few years, but they do have an apparent impact... Wayne Coyne of the Flaming Lips-- I know that fer sure. From what I understand, they helped pick rock n' roll up from a fairly stagnant pop culture in the late 60's. oh well. I, for one, lost a lot of respect for Jimmy Page and the band when Page came in and "endorsed" the likes of Puff Daddy. ick! ;) ... and then David Bowie-- I still love Bowie no matter what, mostly for his earlier (70s) stuff, but Bowie must've sold the rights to someone so Puff Daddy could tear up "Let's Dance". It's as if Puff Daddy was given permission to tear up all the good music. And it's especially terrible when Jessica Simpson, I think that's who did it, took a bad 80s song and remixed the music, or a riff, to fit her voice and big tits. What's the world coming to? a remix of the 60s, 70s, and 80s? (society on the whole) However, Elvis was brought up a minute ago... and I still wonder what he did for music, IN MY OPINION-- he started something, but I have yet to hear something I actually like or take to. I mean, I listen to the Oldies station mostly when I get sick of my mix tapes and he's one of the main artists I just cannot stand to listen to. maybe someone can cite who Elvis has influenced, but... ??? Also, Doug Martsch better than Jimi Hendrix on guitar?... Doug is great, but how can you substantiate that?... how can you qualify such a thing? I understand maybe you're going for a matter of opinion as far as their styles go, but the better of the 2? fuck it, DOOD! --Jacob Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
issac brock writes better lyrics than lou reed. pavement writes better hooks than the beatles. doug martsch is a better guitarist than jimi hendrix good god who wrote this junk? is he/she human? i'm sorry, none of these guys hold a candle to reed/beatles/hendrix i think there needs to be a head hunting
Re: [MMouse]: regarding led crappelin and my sanity(or lack of)
Can we all agree on one thing? "Led Crappelin" is the worst pun on a band name ever devised. On 18 Jul 2000, at 10:35, One Hundred Watt Warlock wrote: From: "norske ho" [EMAIL PROTECTED] led zeppelin and the rolling stones, beatles, etc do NOT fall into the same genre. they just don't. led zeppelin had the long hair, no shirt, icky/cheesy music a) can you base this argument on how they looked? "long hair, no shirt"? i don't think the Beatles looked "cool" half the time, but that didn't affect the quality of the music they put out. b) i was under the impression we were talking about opinions, not facts. i.e., you think Zeppelin sucks, most ppl don't. and if i think they do fall into the same category as the Beatles than they do, in my mind, and if they don't in yours, so be it. but you can't define that for other ppl. i happen to like those bands, and they probably did influence some really shitty bands, but those bands themselves were good. therefore, i can't see a real problem :P oh i s! if YOU like the band, then they can't be held responsible for inspiring shitty bands? but if you DON'T like the band (Zeppelin), then they can be held responsible? you are making NO SENSE. well the thing that irks me is that not only do i really hate led zeppelin, but they also had great influence on other shitty bands. Most cock rock and hair bands cam way after Zep hit their Coda. but they were influenced by led zeppelin! maybe instead of blindly hating something, you should try to UNDERSTAND why something was influential. here is an example: i am not a fan of lots of bands/artists or types of music [examples: Prince, Elvis Presley, Hendrix, Joy Division, country/blues, etc] BUT i can understand and appreciate why they were important/influential. they were usually breaking new ground, being creative/innovative, etc, although the particular style/sound/whatever is not palatable to me. I bet there are very few performers you like that didn't like Zep at some point. yes..which makes me very happy, because then i'm not listening to led zeppelin-influenced music ;) u hello? i don't think you quite got what they were stating. to kneexsocks: are you completely insane or am I misunderstanding this? did i phrase that badly, or do you just think i'm insane for hating the smiths, duran duran, the chameleons, and not especially enjoying the work of elvis costello? please elaborate. i just think you are insane. but that's just my opinion, not a fact. i do recall using "in my opinion" or something to that extent repetitively throughout this thread hmmm...i don't recall that. but i do recall you saying "it's true" a lot when referring to your opinion of Zeppelin __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: regarding led crappelin and my sanity(or lack of)
In a message dated 7/18/00 7:01:06 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can we all agree on one thing? "Led Crappelin" is the worst pun on a band name ever devised. I agree but i cant think of a better one maybe someone could help out and think of a good pun...by the way im not taking sides on this issue i just think it could be funny to see what derogatory words rhyme with led and zeppelin *gary*
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
I wrote that. I think it's funny that people have such a knee-jerk reaction to someone saying "__ is better than the beatles/rolling stones/velvet underground". It's like, as a music fan, you're required to accept as fact "the The Beatles will never be topped". I'm not going to buy into that crap: can anyone fathom that maybe - just maybe - I REALLY do think that Pavement is a better band than the Beatles? Musical taste is so personal; importance, influence... these words mean nothing to mean. I don't care about those qualities. Is Bob Dylan more influential than Stephen Malkmus. Yes. Absolutely. No question. But is he better? No. I don't think he is. That's my opinion, and so in my little sphere of reality, it's fact. Really, I just feel sorry for people who would respond to my original post with a comment like "are you human?". That's fucked up. On 18 Jul 2000, at 14:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: issac brock writes better lyrics than lou reed. pavement writes better hooks than the beatles. doug martsch is a better guitarist than jimi hendrix good god who wrote this junk? is he/she human? i'm sorry, none of these guys hold a candle to reed/beatles/hendrix i think there needs to be a head hunting
Re: [MMouse]: regarding led crappelin and my sanity(or lack of)
I never knew anyone disliked the smiths, duran duran and elvis costello. (not to mention bright eyes). But I have changed my mind. I do not think you are insane. I just feel bad for you. have a nice day. .mer. well i'd rather be pitied than like any of those bands. i'm not gonna conform to your musical tastes - whether good or bad - just so i can be assured that i'm ok for liking whiny britpop! as if there aren't enough fans of the smiths now, duran duran, and bright eyes now! ;) -- a) can you base this argument on how they looked? "long hair, no shirt"? i don't think the Beatles looked "cool" half the time, but that didn't affect the quality of the music they put out. b) i was under the impression we were talking about opinions, not facts. i.e., you think Zeppelin sucks, most ppl don't. and if i think they do fall into the same category as the Beatles than they do, in my mind, and if they don't in yours, so be it. but you can't define that for other ppl. no, but there isn't a way to get you to see that the beatles and led zeppelin in no way sound the same. led zeppelin is post-rock and roll if anything. this is about the only thing of any of my arguments that i don't consider just an opinion. even if i thought they were a good band, they still would sound nothing like the beatles or the rolling stones. oh i s! if YOU like the band, then they can't be held responsible for inspiring shitty bands? but if you DON'T like the band (Zeppelin), then they can be held responsible? you are making NO SENSE. well we're talking about opinions, right? i'm not saying that if they influence shitty bands, it's not their fault. i'm saying that it makes it ten times worse when a shitty band influences other shitty bands. pay attention, son! i never said what you're implying i said nor did i think it. maybe instead of blindly hating something, you should try to UNDERSTAND why something was influential. here is an example: i am not a fan of lots of bands/artists or types of music [examples: Prince, Elvis Presley, Hendrix, Joy Division, country/blues, etc] BUT i can understand and appreciate why they were important/influential. they were usually breaking new ground, being creative/innovative, etc, although the particular style/sound/whatever is not palatable to me. i understand why they're influential, i just don't embrace it or care! ahh behold the power of opinions ;) u hello? i don't think you quite got what they were stating. no, i didn't. you're right, i just guessed. hmmm...i don't recall that. but i do recall you saying "it's true" a lot when referring to your opinion of Zeppelin yay for you. time to go back into the modest mouse archives and look up "in my opinion" because i know how much you care. - amy
Re: [MMouse]: good 80's music
are you completely insane or am I misunderstanding this? here here! (or is it supposed to be "hear! hear!"? i've always wondered...) it's bad enough denying the Zep, but denying Elvis is inexcusable...i hate to harp on the age thing again, but i do think that years (or the experience that comes with it?) leads to a broadening of horizons and wider appreciation (esp. music wise) as there were plenty of bands/artists i thought sucked in my teens that i love and appreciate now (Zep and Elvis included). i'm not saying you will ever like Zep, but maybe learn to appreciate things down the road that you do not now. (as for Elvis, he's a genius, end of subject, and Zep are just good ol' rock and roll). and you can't blame Zeppelin for all the sucky bands that came after them. thats like blaming sonic youth for all the sucky bands that imitate them. blame the music industry. oh..you know what? you're probably right! my complete respect for elton john, stevie wonder, al green, the rolling stones, the talking heads, brian eno, iggy pop, the beatles, beach boys shows a lacking of broadened horizons in my music taste. i apologize, i'll try a little harder next time. excuse the sarcasm..in all seriousness, i think it's possible that i just don't like led zeppelin. maybe i should appreciate them a little more, you're right. i understand why they're a breakthrough band, i just don't agree...it's like something in my head that's trying to fight off respecting their work, because i really hate how they sound i guess. - amy
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
Anyways, blaming Zep for cock rock is like blaming Jaws for Twister and Volcano or Pyscho for the Hand that Rocks the Cradle. One thing might have led to the other, but don't blame the originals for what came after! but they spawned it. to me, they WERE the originals of cockrock. maybe that's the problem, maybe that's why i think why they blow goats..because to me, they ARE COCKROCK. - amy
[MMouse]: possey pussey.... whatever...
mmm whops i think i sent a msg loads of times.. SORRY and sorry to the person i emaild privately ... im tierd thats my excuse :) we hope you are ok. thankyou for listening.
Re: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy
+-a i want i want.. but im in england an dt ooo far away : ( b .. everyone stick one somewhere forme: )* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2000 03:44 Subject: Re: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy oh yeah... I sent out some stickers, so be on the look-out. Also, try not to let them sit near anything hot or something bad will happen. - Original Message - From: "K a t e M e r c i e r" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy i mean, posse. thanks for the sticker. it made moving home to my parents' house much much more fun. plus, guess how many people in trinity county know who isaac brock is?? (answer: very very very few, probably just me)... so, thank you again, sticker person (i forgot your name) for sending the stickers. you are rad. very very far away, kate p.s. i like bright eyes (thanks taylor) and i am 25. p.p.s. my favorite thing about the stickers is imagining that isaac is really 5'11" = /// ... naked if i want to ... /// ::: http://www.zyworld.com/k8mercier/k8.htm ::: __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy
+-a i want i want.. but im in england an dt ooo far away : ( b .. everyone stick one somewhere forme: )* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2000 03:44 Subject: Re: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy oh yeah... I sent out some stickers, so be on the look-out. Also, try not to let them sit near anything hot or something bad will happen. - Original Message - From: "K a t e M e r c i e r" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy i mean, posse. thanks for the sticker. it made moving home to my parents' house much much more fun. plus, guess how many people in trinity county know who isaac brock is?? (answer: very very very few, probably just me)... so, thank you again, sticker person (i forgot your name) for sending the stickers. you are rad. very very far away, kate p.s. i like bright eyes (thanks taylor) and i am 25. p.p.s. my favorite thing about the stickers is imagining that isaac is really 5'11" = /// ... naked if i want to ... /// ::: http://www.zyworld.com/k8mercier/k8.htm ::: __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy
+-a i want i want.. but im in england an dt ooo far away : ( b .. everyone stick one somewhere forme: )* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2000 03:44 Subject: Re: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy oh yeah... I sent out some stickers, so be on the look-out. Also, try not to let them sit near anything hot or something bad will happen. - Original Message - From: "K a t e M e r c i e r" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: [MMouse]: isaac brock has a pussy i mean, posse. thanks for the sticker. it made moving home to my parents' house much much more fun. plus, guess how many people in trinity county know who isaac brock is?? (answer: very very very few, probably just me)... so, thank you again, sticker person (i forgot your name) for sending the stickers. you are rad. very very far away, kate p.s. i like bright eyes (thanks taylor) and i am 25. p.p.s. my favorite thing about the stickers is imagining that isaac is really 5'11" = /// ... naked if i want to ... /// ::: http://www.zyworld.com/k8mercier/k8.htm ::: __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
in the same respect, i think the beatles/rollingstones/whatever are better than the pavement/builttospill/modestmouse but i guess you win. i took the bait. In a message dated 7/18/00 7:45:55 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wrote that. I think it's funny that people have such a knee-jerk reaction to someone saying "__ is better than the beatles/rolling stones/velvet underground". It's like, as a music fan, you're required to accept as fact "the The Beatles will never be topped". I'm not going to buy into that crap: can anyone fathom that maybe - just maybe - I REALLY do think that Pavement is a better band than the Beatles? Musical taste is so personal; importance, influence... these words mean nothing to mean. I don't care about those qualities. Is Bob Dylan more influential than Stephen Malkmus. Yes. Absolutely. No question. But is he better? No. I don't think he is. That's my opinion, and so in my little sphere of reality, it's fact. Really, I just feel sorry for people who would respond to my original post with a comment like "are you human?". That's fucked up.
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes
In a message dated 7/17/00 6:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Conor rocking back and forth while singing and almost falling off his chair, in tears? I think thats brilliant. Brilliant? Bad word choice. Phil
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes
opinion is the perfect word choice. -- the zine. fsoa. http://members.tripod.com/~pastworn/fsoa.html the tape label. (coming soon). pleasesleep records. the other e-mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] np: Pitchblende "Au Jus"
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
you can't be seriouspavements total combined hooks of all of their songs together couldn't hold a candle to just one or two of the millions of hooks the beatles wrote...you are truly sick in the head.. -- Tour de Force, Defacto, Ayuchuco! -- chris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin pavement writes better hooks than the beatles. doug martsch is a better guitarist than jimi hendrix.
Re: [MMouse]: regarding led crappelin and my sanity(or lack of)
In a message dated 7/18/00 3:04:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: well i'd rather be pitied than like any of those bands. i'm not gonna conform to your musical tastes - whether good or bad - just so i can be assured that i'm ok for liking whiny britpop! as if there aren't enough fans of the smiths now, duran duran, and bright eyes now! ;) I hate to beat a dead horse, but this is fascinating. When the hell did Duran Duran become whiny britpop? Have you ever actually heard them? jesus. .mer.
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
i'm so serious... horribly, bone-chillingly serious. read very carefully: I DON'T LIKE THE BEATLES AS MUCH AS I LIKE PAVEMENT. That is what's known as an opinion, and you can't argue with an opinion; there's no point. - Original Message - From: "Chris Stratton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin you can't be seriouspavements total combined hooks of all of their songs together couldn't hold a candle to just one or two of the millions of hooks the beatles wrote...you are truly sick in the head.. -- Tour de Force, Defacto, Ayuchuco! -- chris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin pavement writes better hooks than the beatles. doug martsch is a better guitarist than jimi hendrix.
[MMouse]: thanks for the stciker!!!
thanks tonz fot the sticker *stacey
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes
Anybody have an idea when Bright Eyes will go on Sunday? Scott
Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin
i wasn't arguing with your opinion...if you like pavement more than the beatles, so be it..i could really care less...however, to make such a bold statement like "pavement writes better hooks than the beatles"..is an atrocious thought in itself..even if it is your opinion... -- Tour de Force, Defacto, Ayuchuco! -- chris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin i'm so serious... horribly, bone-chillingly serious. read very carefully: I DON'T LIKE THE BEATLES AS MUCH AS I LIKE PAVEMENT. That is what's known as an opinion, and you can't argue with an opinion; there's no point. - Original Message - From: "Chris Stratton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin you can't be seriouspavements total combined hooks of all of their songs together couldn't hold a candle to just one or two of the millions of hooks the beatles wrote...you are truly sick in the head.. -- Tour de Force, Defacto, Ayuchuco! -- chris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: Led Zeppelin pavement writes better hooks than the beatles. doug martsch is a better guitarist than jimi hendrix.
