courier.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html
fh
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mitchell
Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
Date: Tue, 9
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mitchell
Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST)
They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do
close people down for it.
This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local
.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html
fh
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mitchell
Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
Date: Tue, 9 Sep
laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines
accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously
Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines
accordingly when the original intent
laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
I disagree. I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws and
regulations. The original post was about a specific detroit related
thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have to read a
new email that has nothing to do
Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines
accordingly when
.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines
accordingly
was in
itself pretty unusual, as the post below points out.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
people
there? :)
-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:40 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
I disagree. I don't have any interest
zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines
accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts
-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 September 2008 13:04
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
The way gmail formats threads, though, one has to go through and delete
each
(was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
It's a matter of educating people about the rules of netiquette, mate.
Also, I'm pretty chill. I wasn't SHOUTING was I?
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
LOL!
You don't have to read it mate! Chill
Whatever.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:06 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
It's a matter of educating people about
You know what else is good netiquette? Not quoting the entire thread
in every reply.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I disagree. I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws
and regulations. The original post was about a specific detroit
C'mon guys just drop it. We get it. Move on.
=
Southern Outpost
http://www.southernoutpost.com
Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin
Infiltrating your sound systems
=
On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You know
: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)
I disagree. I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws and
regulations. The original post was about a specific detroit related
thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have to read a
new
BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded radio
shows.
A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not a performance
licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able to collect for
the use of their material from the listener, from the downloader.
: (313) Mad Mike interview
On 8 September 2008, Andy Mitchell wrote:
(Note that the handful of musical tracks played during the interview
have been cut out because they're too cheap to pay the licensing fee
for 'em)
Personally, I wouldn't exactly call the rate structure for internet
On 8 Sep 2008, at 10:18, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Hmmm.
Why no license fee waiver? Was it even an issue? Seems unlikely the
ISP/website would even be anywhere near being sued for airing the
tracks.
Odd.
They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do
close people down
Thanks Andy, always good to hear Mike.
m
On 7 Sep 2008, at 22:56, Andy Mitchell wrote:
Mad Mike was in New Zealand with UR's DJ Skurge last week to do some
community work with at risk youth, including a lunchtime show for high
school kids!
Mike was interviewed on state-owned broadcaster
Why no license fee waiver? Was it even an issue? Seems unlikely the
ISP/website would even be anywhere near being sued for airing the
tracks.
Odd.
They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do
close people down for it.
This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's
They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do
close people down for it.
This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local
organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing their fees
are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers
I don't know how anyone makes a living in NZ. Even the daily
newspapers don't pay freelancers, crying poor, and won't send you
copies or tear sheets of published work. No wonder everyone worships
Peter Jackson so much - probably being an extra in Lord Of The Rings
is the one way people get
Thanks for posting Andy! This is some great stuff.
P.
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andy Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mad Mike was in New Zealand with UR's DJ Skurge last week to do some
community work with at risk youth, including a lunchtime show for high
school kids!
Mike was
google pay for play.
you might learn something.
careful on the replies though tom, this email is the hook, and your reply is
the bite.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: (313) mad
.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
On 2/13/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
americans are one big flock of sheep, with pop culture playing the part
of
the shepherd
Maybe you didn't say other music from around the world wasn't as great as
American forms but you did imply it.
Just take a look at the below statements you made during this conversation.
MEK
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/13/2007 05:38:13
PM:
On 2/13/07, [EMAIL
Thanks for posting that, I found it very moving.
On 12 Feb 2007, at 17:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't know if it was posted before
for all UR chobo's around
http://www.de-bug.de/texte/4639.html
unless you have the luxury of a car which a lot of people can`t afford. The
situation is grey.
-Original Message-
From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 February 2007 00:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
Thanks
It would be great if the people mover actually moved people places. It
looks ace.
http://www.thepeoplemover.com/
robin...
Toby Frith wrote:
This line I thought was the most pertinent in the whole interview.
We need our city and manufacturing leaders to travel overseas and to realize what
.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:47:48 +
It would be great if the people mover actually moved people
places. It
looks ace.
http
, the mentality of the streets goes all the way to the top.
Mike is 100% on the money with that statement.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:47:48 +
It would
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
:)
robin...
Aidan O'Doherty wrote:
pic reminds me of springfield's monorail
Mr.Mike nailed it on the head with that comment.
Detroit IS landlocked in many ways and for years the
people who live there have screamed for a well working
public transit system. The people who continue to
travel around the world bring back as much cultural
soundbites as they can- but it can
On 2/13/07, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This line I thought was the most pertinent in the whole interview.
We need our city and manufacturing leaders to travel overseas and to realize what
Mass Transit means to a city. We don`t have it and we have land locked communities, with
land
David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/13/2007 11:37:19 AM:
something fundamentally wrong with the American value system
Hammer
and its promotion of individualism at all costs.
Nail
Pound away
MEK
On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/13/2007 11:37:19 AM:
something fundamentally wrong with the American value system
Hammer
and its promotion of individualism at all costs.
Nail
Pound away
come on though, would such great
On 2/13/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
come on though, would such great music be created in america if
individuality wasnt such a big deal here? i dont think so!
tom
Yes. Until the birth of electronic music, most music was NOT created
by just an individual.
Take any great
Individuality is not as big a deal in other countries/cultures that have
created great music equal to that of America's.
And often you find a lack of privilege and entitlement amongst those
cultures.
MEK
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/13/2007 03:05:09
PM:
On 2/13/07,
On 2/13/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. Until the birth of electronic music, most music was NOT created
by just an individual.
sure, but if every musical decision was made by group decision, would
these things have happened? there's always someone who steps out of
line with
On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Individuality is not as big a deal in other countries/cultures that have
created great music equal to that of America's.
name these great musics and compare them to this list:
hiphop, soul, blues, funk, disco, house,
techno, electro,
re: techno- couldn't you really credit the roots (the
start of the chain reaction) to germany and well we
won't point any fingers for Giorgio Moroder and what
his productions lead to (viva Italia).
?
diana
--- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL
On 2/13/07, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
re: techno- couldn't you really credit the roots (the
start of the chain reaction) to germany and well we
won't point any fingers for Giorgio Moroder and what
his productions lead to (viva Italia).
both giorgio and kraftwerk took much
. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:24 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
On 2/13/07, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
re: techno- couldn't you really credit the roots (the
start of the chain reaction) to germany and well we
won't point
americans are one big flock of sheep, with pop culture playing the part of
the shepherd.
think
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
On 2/13/07
name these great musics and compare them to this list:
traditional musics from all around the world
Just because they don't have a global reach (because of a lack of necessity
and capitalistic marketing) doesn't mean that, say Gamelan music, isn't as
great as American Blues. You have a
On 2/13/07, kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i usually hold back from responding to these quasi-political posts on the
list.
but, i feel the need to say that you are not really talking about american
music here; you are talking about black music.
jazz, blues, rock, soul, funk, hip-hop,
On 2/13/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
americans are one big flock of sheep, with pop culture playing the part of
the shepherd.
think
if you want to make a third grade argument out of it, maybe.
otherwise, until you prove to me that americans developed all those
styles of music amongst
odd that you excluded rock and roll as black music though ;)
It's not entirely black music. Appalachian folk/country music had a huge
impact on it (melodically).
That music has it's roots in immigrants from Scotland and Ireland.
MEK
On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
traditional musics from all around the world
Just because they don't have a global reach (because of a lack of necessity
and capitalistic marketing) doesn't mean that, say Gamelan music, isn't as
great as American Blues. You have a very
he makes some interesting points about why dance music is dada in
states. i would not have considered blaming european labels for the
failure of house/techno to take hold in america.
if house/techno had not exploded in uk/europe when it did, and the
artists had stayed in their home towns, would
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
he makes some interesting points about why dance music is dada in
states. i would not have considered blaming european labels for the
failure of house/techno to take hold in america.
It's a good point, given enough time for it to grow
Yes, as an import. ;-)
MEK
Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/12/2007 03:08:17
PM:
he makes some interesting points about why dance music is dada in
states. i would not have considered blaming european labels for the
failure of house/techno to take hold in america.
if
Selon Svagr, Jodie [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hey Dimitri, how've you been? Its been ages since my last email to you via
myspace. I've been so busy, but now a few slow days has resulted in time to
write endless hyperreal books... lol
I'm fine, glad to see you writing 'hyperreal' books again ... he
I realise that talk of contributing to the neighborhoods is not necessarily a
hyperreal list related topic.
Sure, it's not very '313 list' as a subject, but imo it desserves to be
discussing. A lot of peoples on this list, not the top actives ones, but a lot
never visited Detoit. Some would
Word is Bornd.
happy monday everyone!
It's funny that both of you think this is a non-list topic. I think it's
bang on topic for the list personally and would love to hear more about
this side of things.
Better than some of the topics we've had recently, ahem.
robin...
It's funny that both of you think this is a non-list topic. I think it's
bang on topic for the list personally and would love to hear more about
this side of things.
Better than some of the topics we've had recently, ahem.
robin...
If we enter this topic, I take my best working keyboard,
Some would be certainly happy to hear comments and
opinions not writed by journalists who love to expand and re
arrange things
like they want them to be, to keep a correct amount of readers, to
exite them I
don't know, but to uninform them for sure.
I hear that a lot but I think it's a
It's funny that both of you think this is a non-list topic. I think it's
bang on topic for the list personally and would love to hear more about
this side of things.
Better than some of the topics we've had recently, ahem.
robin...
If we enter this topic, I take my best working keyboard,
://www.discogs.com/artist/Heidelberg+Project
-Original Message-
From: Svagr, Jodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 December 2006 21:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview
big snip to abridge that 'book', or maybe you really *did* write
one
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Sent: Mon 18/12/2006 15:18
To: Svagr, Jodie; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview
Well, since you ask Jodie, I can suggest that people look at the
brilliant work of The Heidelberg Project.
http://www.urban75.com/Mag/heidel.html
This also neatly
Wow
This one is great. I love the commentary and the imagergy and the tunes.
A Must watch!!
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:58 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) mad mike interview
another great interview from
?
From: Jeff Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun 17/12/2006 13:29
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview
Wow
This one is great. I love the commentary and the imagergy and the tunes.
A Must watch!!
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL
Makes me want to ask a curious question to all of the 313ers, has anyone from
this list ever brought any of the high-tec that Mike's talking about to
Detroit?
Yes, this interview is definitely great, it's done by Slice DVD, correct me if
I'm wrong ...
http://www.eb-slices.net/
For 'High
From: Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun 17/12/2006 18:53
To: Svagr, Jodie
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview
Makes me want to ask a curious question to all of the 313ers, has
On Dec 17, 2006, at 5:29 AM, Jeff Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow
This one is great. I love the commentary and the imagery and the
tunes.
A Must watch!!
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:58 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Ahh!
Thanks KJ.
actually I have a request while we're on this subject.
Matt - the patrick russell mix. is there any chance of making it available
again for a few days?
for some reason I dont seem to have it on my harddrive, and its a great
mix, I need it for keeps!
Ta!
Alex
ah you found the lazy quote :-)
But the funny part is that Laurant Garnier (also thanks Mad mike on numerous
e.p.'s)
got through the Colonnades on nr 9 on his fav records list of a month ago
but you knew that right ?
DMt
- Original Message -
From: Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Roland van Oorschot wrote:
Here:
http://www.multimania.com/fighters/madmike.htm
I dunno how old it is, but it still nice to read.
1994 he says in the article. Still very relevant though, of course..
People will be pondering his message for years to come.
Scott.
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