Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Carl Dershem
Allen Fisher wrote: This is a bad example. Apple controls all the pieces here, MM cannot force Tobias to spend time updating the full version of TGTools. Force? No. Entice? Probably. cd On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Again, this points to MakeMusic. One of their most

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Allen Fisher
This is a bad example. Apple controls all the pieces here, MM cannot force Tobias to spend time updating the full version of TGTools. On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Again, this points to MakeMusic. One of their most important plugin developers (or the best one IMHO) doesn

RE: [Finale] Another naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2009 at 20:41, Roger Cain wrote: > Registration requires Administrator Level execution. By default, Vista > does not Afford Administrator Level as a securoty measure. > > Right-click the Finale icon and select "Run as Administrator." That won't necessarily fix the problem -- it depends

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading question

2009-10-21 Thread Ray Horton
David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 Oct 2009 at 19:10, Ray Horton wrote: Should I run the huge Tuesday update or DL the new, lean, Thursday update and run it instead? Or are they the same file? I would say that it's 99.99% sure that it's the same file, and the only difference in the downlo

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Speaking of TGTools, it is rather shocking that MakeMusic would not work with Tobias to ensure that his plugin works properly with Finale. And what makes you think they haven't? My guess is that Tobias is a beta tester so he knows what's

RE: [Finale] Another naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread Roger Cain
Registration requires Administrator Level execution. By default, Vista does not Afford Administrator Level as a securoty measure. Right-click the Finale icon and select "Run as Administrator." Roger -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Beh

Re: [Finale] Another naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread David McKay
Thanks for the advice. Problem solved. Had the same problem when I bought a computer about 2 years ago, but totally forgot the solution. Sign in as admin solved the problem. David McKay 2009/10/22 Scott Jones > There was a thread back a while ago that addressed this. Seems to only > happen to t

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading question

2009-10-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Wed Oct 21, at WednesdayOct 21 7:10 PM, Ray Horton wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Breaking News! I just downloaded the updater and completed the installation in about 6 min. Things are looking up .. Dean O OK - here's a question for all of you folks that seem to know what goes on i

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading question

2009-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2009 at 19:10, Ray Horton wrote: > Should I run the huge Tuesday update or DL the new, lean, Thursday > update and run it instead? Or are they the same file? I would say that it's 99.99% sure that it's the same file, and the only difference in the download time is either that fewer p

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading question

2009-10-21 Thread Ray Horton
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Breaking News! I just downloaded the updater and completed the installation in about 6 min. Things are looking up .. Dean O OK - here's a question for all of you folks that seem to know what goes on inside his magic metal box: I DL'd the update the first day - to

Re: [Finale] Another naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread Scott Jones
There was a thread back a while ago that addressed this. Seems to only happen to those who use Microsoft's VISTA operating system. There is a work around. Check the backlog of messages or go to the MM forums and search for it just in case tech support does not answer back as quickly as y

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Chuck Israels
Speaking of which, I have tried (gently) rattling Tobias' cage about updating the plugins that are broken in 2010. Can I get a few others to communicate with him? I am eagerly awaiting his update, so that 2010 can become fully functional for me. Thanks to anyone who can take the trouble t

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Breaking News! I just downloaded the updater and completed the installation in about 6 min. Things are looking up .. Dean On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:12 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 Oct 2009 at 17:37, Christopher Smith wrote: On Wed Oct 21, at WednesdayOct 21 4:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
I don't mean to be acting as an apologist for MakeMusic, but I just don't think that people are asking reasonable questions here. On 21 Oct 2009 at 14:44, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Speaking of TGTools, it is rather shocking that MakeMusic would not work > with Tobias to ensure that his plugin wor

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2009 at 17:37, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Wed Oct 21, at WednesdayOct 21 4:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > In the real world, however, choices have to be made, and I'm certain > > nobody is happy about having to make these triage decisions. > > Hmm, more to the point, I think, i

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Andrew Moschou
Since version 4, released in 2005, Sibelius has included a worksheet creator. Flash cards are included in this. 2009/10/22 Eric Dannewitz > > > But then again, can Sibelius do flash cards? Didn't think so. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu ht

Re: [Finale] Another naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread Christopher Smith
You'll have to be more specific with platform, OS version and Finale version. I hear on the MakeMusic website there are tons of questions about this. Sorry I paid no attention because it all works with me. Christopher On Wed Oct 21, at WednesdayOct 21 5:25 PM, David McKay wrote: I have pro

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Wed Oct 21, at WednesdayOct 21 4:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: And questioning the integrity and honesty of the only people who can fix Finale seems to me to be quite counterproductive (you think they don't read the list? Maybe they have stopped after being constantly pilloried as liars by p

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Speaking of TGTools, it is rather shocking that MakeMusic would not work with Tobias to ensure that his plugin works properly with Finale. It took months for an update to work with the new dynamics (as I recall) and people are still waiting for an update to get the Chords working properly a

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Wed Oct 21, at WednesdayOct 21 4:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: In the real world, however, choices have to be made, and I'm certain nobody is happy about having to make these triage decisions. Hmm, more to the point, I think, is WHO is making these decisions? When the programmers make t

Re: [Finale] Another naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Prayer? Um, call their tech support. I have a friend who uses SmartMusic (another "great" MakeMusic product) that has this issue all the time. It loses it's registration On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:25 PM, David McKay wrote: I have problems registering the program. Always have had. I assu

Re: [Finale] Another naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread David McKay
I have problems registering the program. Always have had. I assume that I am allowed to have it installed on my desktop and my laptop, but when I try to register it on my laptop I either get an error message, or I get a message sayign registration successful, but then still get the message sayign t

Re: [Finale] A naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2009 at 17:11, Christopher Smith wrote: > Delete it once you know everything is working, or if you are really anal, > burn it to a CD with the rest of your backups so you can get it back if > MakeMusic shuts its website, refuses to give out older updates, or if you > find you have to

Re: [Finale] A naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread Christopher Smith
Delete it once you know everything is working, or if you are really anal, burn it to a CD with the rest of your backups so you can get it back if MakeMusic shuts its website, refuses to give out older updates, or if you find you have to downgrade later on. I delete them, myself. Christophe

Re: [Finale] A naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Delete On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Michael Greensill wrote: After downloading the up-date and installing it, I'm left with the Finale 2010 Updater on my desktop. What am I supposed to do with that? Store it somewhere, delete it? I think I have a folder full of those type of things somewh

Re: [Finale] A naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread dhbailey
Michael Greensill wrote: After downloading the up-date and installing it, I'm left with the Finale 2010 Updater on my desktop. What am I supposed to do with that? Store it somewhere, delete it? I think I have a folder full of those type of things somewhere, but I've never been told what to do w

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2009 at 15:31, dhbailey wrote: > I eagerly await your lambasting Henry Howey for his comment > agreeing with my contention that we're all unpaid beta > testers only he went one step further and said it was > fundamentally dishonest. I am preparing a reply right now explaining why it'

[Finale] A naive computer question

2009-10-21 Thread Michael Greensill
After downloading the up-date and installing it, I'm left with the Finale 2010 Updater on my desktop. What am I supposed to do with that? Store it somewhere, delete it? I think I have a folder full of those type of things somewhere, but I've never been told what to do with them. Mike G. ww

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread dhbailey
I'm sitting in my corner now and writing on the wall 100 times 'I will play nice with others.' Now I just hope my mother doesn't find out who wrote all over her wall! David "la-la-la" Bailey Christopher Smith wrote: Davids... Don't make me come back there! Are we going to have to sepa

Re: [Finale] Darcy in the Times

2009-10-21 Thread dhbailey
Michael Greensill wrote: Congrats to Darcy for the lovely photo and review in todays NY Times.onward and upward! Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Wow, first P

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Christopher Smith
Davids... Don't make me come back there! Are we going to have to separate you? Your father will hear about this if you don't stop and play nice. Why did we name them ALL David!? Sincerely, The lady from the Dr. Seuss book who had 23 sons and named them all Dave On Wed Oct 21, at Wedn

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 Oct 2009 at 7:47, dhbailey wrote: So somehow the figured it out -- something which Mac users have been able to do for a long time, so it remains a murky question as to why Windows users had to wait so long. David, it's not murky at all. It's very, very likely a r

[Finale] Darcy in the Times

2009-10-21 Thread Michael Greensill
Congrats to Darcy for the lovely photo and review in todays NY Times.onward and upward! Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread Chuck Israels
On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:38 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "la-la-la" is not a very adult way to respond to this kind of thing. I kinda thought he looked cute doing that! Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836

[Finale] 2010a update claim

2009-10-21 Thread Chuck Israels
MM says that the crash causing bug resulting from resizing the main tool pallet has been fixed. Sort of - I think. I can reshape the pallet, re-order and arrange the tools, and the program seems to remain stable, but there's something I can't get to work, and I'd like someone else to try

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2009 at 7:47, dhbailey wrote: > So somehow the figured it out -- something which Mac users > have been able to do for a long time, so it remains a murky > question as to why Windows users had to wait so long. David, it's not murky at all. It's very, very likely a reliance on 3rd-part

[Finale] MakeMusic - The end of;-)

2009-10-21 Thread Howey, Henry
I see that 2010a STILL does not have the SMARTMUSIC tab on the DOCUMENTS menu. I haven't played with it; however, I doubt that the old way to make SM files does either. The central fact remains - those who adopt early are beta-testers - unpaid beta-testers. This is fundamentally dishonest. Al

Re: [Finale] FinaleScript for Dummies..

2009-10-21 Thread shirling & neueweise
I want to batch format 30 music files at once, making a change in page format. ah right, yeah finale script is the way to go. i only recently started looking into this and find it a huge pain to understand. what is needed is a list compiled of possible commands; the format they have chosen

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 20 Oct 2009 at 19:39, dhbailey wrote: in the list of fixes, the claim is made that the User Manual now opens in the default browser. If that's true, it'll be a long-standing gripe resolved. And makes me wonder why it couldn't have been done a couple of versions ag

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2010a Maintenance Update Now Available

2009-10-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue Oct 20, at TuesdayOct 20 7:34 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 20 Oct 2009 at 20:41, shirling & neueweise wrote: Wow, Individual Flash Cards! Oh man sign me up. seems that is more important than fixing linked parts... or a plethora of other stupid bugs. It got included because it was

Re: [Finale] Maintenance Update downloading

2009-10-21 Thread shirling & neueweise
funny how that works. wait a day and it only takes 15min... 8-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2010a Maintenance Update Now Available

2009-10-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
You men "sense," surely. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 21 Oct 2009, at 2:13 AM, John Roberts wrote: That sounds a bit too close to Socialism, David! JR On 10/20/09 7:34 PM, "David W. Fenton" wrote: I'm reminded of the recent exchange in a health care h