Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:51 PM 07/12/2005, Andrew Stiller wrote: >Trying to exercise control of such utterances after they leave one's >mouth or keyboard is like nothing so much as saving one's hair and >nail clippings. And getting indignant at what the barber does with >them w.o your permission. Funny you should

Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!

2005-07-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:01 PM 7/12/2005, Simon Troup wrote: >It's the distribution of email addresses that I object to. See, nobody has yet responded to that part of my posts. Anyone in the world can subscribe to this list and then get a list of the subscribers with no trouble at all. So the idea that all of our

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:56 PM 7/12/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >And that's how I discovered this. The point is that posts that I've >made for one audience (you subscribers to this list) are being made >available to everyone in the world, But David, they've *always* been available to everyone in the world. Anyone

Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!

2005-07-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:22 PM 7/12/2005, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >The point of a private list is precisely that I believe, as has been pointed out before, that to Mailman the words "private list" mean something different from how you mean it. As the list page says, "This is a private list, which means that

Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!

2005-07-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:04 PM 7/12/2005, Simon Troup wrote: >Oh hello, what's this then? > >http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/email/1476456.html It's exactly what it says: it's an image of your email address, which is not harvestable by bots in that form. This is not what most of us would call "readily avai

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:28 AM 7/12/2005, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >This is not about my email address. This is about my content. I did not >expect a public archive, or else I'd be posting to the web forum. The >extent of the 'contract' for posting is on the list info site, and nowhere >is a public presentation o

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:56 PM 7/11/2005, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >Not I. I subscribed to a private list. If this were a Yahoo group, that >would be a different story. I'm not sure what the distinction is here. Anyone in the world can currently join this list. Once they join, they can in 5 minutes download th

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-11 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:15 PM 7/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >http://www.opensubscriber.com/messages/finale@shsu.edu/416.html > >Isn't there something illegal or unethical about this? There's some other message archive subscribed as well. Frankly, as long as SHSU isn't providing a proper searchable archive of

Re: [Finale] OTHER Sibelius features Finale should steal

2005-07-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:49 PM 7/6/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Um, what? Where is the option to have Finale automatically check for >maintenance upgrades? It's not automatic, but WinFin04 has Help | Finale Updates. This just takes you to the website, which isn't quite the same as automatic update checks. A

Re: [Finale] OTHER Sibelius features Finale should steal

2005-07-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:41 PM 07/06/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >• Translucent palettes (or "tool windows" as Sibelius calls them) Okay, so I know this a really minor gripe in the scheme of things. But most of the Sibelius palettes and menu bars and so forth are hard-coded with a grey background (on Win,

Re: [Finale] Dynamic Parts in Finale

2005-07-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:28 PM 07/06/2005, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >Because the name, SPECIAL PART EXTRACTION means, to me, it's going to be >UNLINKED from the score. Hence the name, extraction. Erm, in current Speical Part Extraction in Finale, nothing is unlinked. Any changes you make in Special Part Extraction ar

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:05 PM 07/06/2005, Andrew Stiller wrote: >Part view is something you (not me, I never use it) use before the >actual parts are extracted. Any dynamic linkage feature that I can ever >conceive using would be applicable to parts that have *already been >extracted and edited* and are therefore i

Re: [Finale] Dynamic Parts in Finale

2005-07-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:19 PM 07/06/2005, Andrew Stiller wrote: >Of all the long list of proposed features that follows, I'm not at all >sure I feel a need for *any* of them. Darcy is asking for a profusion >of new dialog boxes and windows, whereas I would have thought it >obvious that any dynamic parts linking

Re: [Finale] is that a new feature?!

2005-07-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:52 AM 07/06/2005, Cecil Rigby wrote: >OK, everyone- slap me if I missed something. Okay...SLAP! > There are 25 background >pictures available in Fin'03 And if you wanna make your own, do it >and put it in the resources folder Those get applied *behind* the music paper, in pag

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:13 PM 06/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >On 29 Jun 2005 at 18:57, Chuck Israels wrote: > >> On Jun 29, 2005, at 6:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >> >> > (the "I want to live in America" effect >> >> I don't remember how Bernstein wrote this, but I'd write it with one >> combined time signatu

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:28 PM 06/29/2005, Raymond Horton wrote: >I just wasn't certain, in 6/4, whether five beats rest should generally >be a dotted half plus two quarters or a dotted half plus a half. The >latter is easy to read, but I suspect that Johannes is indeed on target >with his asstertion that the forme

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:32 PM 06/29/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >This is why I like modern time signatures like > >3+2 >Q. > >(that's 3+2 over a dotted quarter) > >for 10/8. I've read this over a couple of times, and I still don't get it. Wouldn't that be 3 dotted quarters + 2 dotted quarters, or 5 dotted qua

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:58 PM 06/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >Why would anyone use a 6 for 3 beats? Because if you have a section in quarter notes that's going back and forth between 4, 5, and 6 beats to the bar (for example), intermixing 4/4, 5/4, and then 3/2 can look confusing to the player. 6/4 makes it

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-25 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:58 AM 06/25/2005, dhbailey wrote: >Garritan Personal Orchestra is supported, but only in WindowsXP (plus >Mac, of course). I'd love to know why this supported in XP but not 2000. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.e

Re: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave

2005-06-24 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:28 AM 06/24/2005, Giovanni Andreani wrote: I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a melodic >line one octave higher or lower in the same staff.  No plugin needed -- Finale will do this for you. Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool. Then select Mass Edit | T

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:56 AM 06/23/2005, Robert Patterson wrote: > I am extremely concerned that we may have seen the virtual end of >notation-related enhancements for a long while.  Well put, Robert. This is my concern as well -- and under 'enhancements' I would include bug fixes as well as new features. One

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-22 Thread Aaron Sherber
Looks like they've continued their practice of adding features from existing third-party plugins. Engraver Copy & Paste looks a lot like Robert Patterson's Mass Copy (though not as useful), and Auto Page Resize looks like it might be related to his Page Mover. And Score System Divider is one of

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-22 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:20 PM 06/22/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >They mention July 2005. I just got the email notice now. But when I >tried to pre-order, Firefox kept telling me that the document contained >no data. Yeah, Firefox doesn't seem to like a lot of those new pages. Hey, Coda, if anyone is reading t

Re: [Finale] tuplet rithm

2005-06-19 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:13 AM 06/19/2005, Richard Yates wrote: >In Speedy Entry press Ctrl-3 then then enter three eighth notes. Go back and >add a dot to the second and change the third to a sixteenth. It's even easier than that. Just press Ctrl-3 and enter your eighth note, dotted eighth note, and sixteenth no

Re: [Finale] Origin and usefulness of these music fonts

2005-06-19 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:30 AM 06/19/2005, Rocky Road wrote: >StaffClefPitchesEasy This one of the tremendously useful freeware fonts made available by Matthew Hindson (hindson.com.au). Some of these are designed to be used with Finale; others (like this one) are designed for any word processing or DTP applicati

Re: [Finale] transfering files

2005-06-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:43 PM 06/13/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I've had two suggestions - conncect the two machines via ethernet, or buy a >pen drive. If both machines are connected to the Internet, then either email the files to yourself, or put them on an FTP site and retrieve them. But a pen drive (by

Re: [Finale] Creating Articulations

2005-06-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:34 PM 06/13/2005, Gerry Kirk wrote: >A composition I'm engraving calls for accents with tenuto marks above >(and below) numerous notes. Is there a way to create a single >articulation, or combine those two articulations, rather than >entering each separately? You mean the symbol that looks

Re: [Finale] OT: Apple eyes the Pentium M

2005-06-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:51 AM 06/10/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >studies are in their early stages. Developers at WWDC are being >given "loner G5's"  I had to read this a couple of times -- you mean "loaner", yes? I hate to think of a bunch of computers, each nursing their own whiskey at the end of a bar so

Re: [Finale] Re: Changing clefs in Staff Styles ADD Finale default documents

2005-06-08 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:31 AM 06/08/2005, RegoR wrote: >2 why is it that if, in program option, the default document ONE sets is >different than maestro, the Wizard does NOT see that document, and creates >any any new file by using the Finale default of Maestro Font Default.FTM ? >Whereas if one asks for the "def

RE: [Finale] Dynamics from MIDI file

2005-06-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:38 AM 06/07/2005, Lee Actor wrote: >Check continuous controller 7, which is volume, and make sure that both >staves are set to the same value. Yes, that did the trick. Thanks to all for other suggestions as well. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list F

[Finale] Dynamics from MIDI file

2005-06-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, I have MIDI file of a piano piece which I have opened up in Finale (Win 2004) and am now cleaning up. My problem is that the r.h. is playing back much softer than the l.h. The piece has absolutely no expressions or articulations in it. I don't have much experience with the MIDI tool,

Re: [Finale] new to Finale

2005-05-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:36 AM 05/31/2005, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >Just got 2K5 recently, and I've been reading the manual (yeah, I'm a >compulsive RTFM guy). Where is Finale script documented? There's nothing in >the manual. Isn't it the same as 2k4? There's a FinaleScript section in chapter 9 that talks abo

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:35 AM 05/15/2005, Rich Caldwell wrote: >Maybe it isn't in all versions? FinMac 2005b here. > >Document Options ---> Flags ---> Flag Type [right at the top] Ah -- your earlier post said Doc Options | BEAMS. If you look at the help file for this screen, you'll see that 'Use Straight Flags' on

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:54 AM 05/15/2005, Rich Caldwell wrote: >Shouldn't DocOpts>Beams>Use Straight Flags do this? I tried it, but >Maestro and Engraver don't seem to have straight flags. Where do you see such an option? Are you referring to "Flatten all beams"? That is something different entirely -- it forces a

Re: [Finale] OT: Firefox

2005-05-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:35 AM 05/15/2005, Andrew Stiller wrote: >Windows were *glacially* slow to load. As for the possibility that >these problems might have been remotely based--well, let's just say I >don't believe in coincidences. Do you by chance use a proxy server? I have noticed that Firefox on Windows loads

[Finale] OT: Composing tools

2005-05-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
And you thought composing in Finale could be difficult: http://www.ded.kiev.ua/mus.swf Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: New file setup

2005-05-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:09 PM 5/6/2005, shirling & neueweise wrote: >same in the shape designer). metatool-assign expression twice. >create new shape expression -> edit -> select. oh look the first >shape i created is duplicated! this is slated to be fixed...  I thought this was intentional, and actually has adv

Re: [Finale] Rehearsal numbers for orchestral score

2005-05-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:45 PM 5/5/2005, John McGann/Original Custom Transcription Service wrote: >I'd like to have each bar numbered at the bottom of my score, but >can't figure how to get it just at the bottom- the "Always Show on >Bottom Staff" makes them appear on the different systems, but not >just below the ba

Re: [Finale] Defining Staff Styles

2005-05-01 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:42 PM 05/01/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >I've never used staff styles too much, but now that I'm combining >movements, I need to define one to display the full staff names again >at the beginning of internal movements. I can't figure out how to do >it. What you need to do (or at least what I

Re: [Finale] ACK!!!! Stuck clef tool!

2005-04-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:25 PM 04/27/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >Does anyone know what the stuck key might have been and how to turn >it off without rebooting my PC? This happens to me not infrequently in Finale. I find that by depressing all of the numeric keypad keys (three at a time: 789, etc.), I can get it

Re: [Finale] Tempo in Hyperscribe

2005-04-25 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:13 PM 04/25/2005, Jacki Barineau wrote: >However, when I start up hyperscribe to record, it plays way faster and I >can't keep up with it! Where do I tell it what speed to play during >recording?? Select the Hyperscribe tool, then choose Hyperscribe | Beat Source | Playback and/or Click. Do

Re: [Finale] How to apply text to various staffs?

2005-04-25 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:51 AM 04/25/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >If I have some kind of text descriptor that needs to go on ALL the extracted >parts, how do I tell the text tool to do that? Or should I not use that tool? > >What if I want the text to only appear on SOME parts, but not all instruments? What you'

Re: [Finale] Page setup - Landscape v Portrait ?

2005-04-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:15 AM 4/13/2005, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >Come to think of it, I have always thought they should be dynamically >linked. Is there any scenario that I don't know when you want Page Setup >set to one way while Page Layout set to the other? Sure. I've just been working with a European composer who

Re: [Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts

2005-03-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:05 AM 03/21/2005, dhbailey wrote: >What I do is to have a small header in the center of every page of my >score, which I ensure gets extracted along with the parts. Then it's an >easy matter to add something like "-- Instrument" to the header that's >already there. Yes, now we've come full c

Re: [Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts

2005-03-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:23 AM 03/21/2005, Jonathan Smith wrote: >For instrument names on all pages try this: > >File Menu - Extract parts - Options - Create Staff or Group names > >Here you can specify fonts, positions and which pages ranges you >require. The problem with this is that I think many of us like one kin

Re: [Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts

2005-03-19 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:46 PM 03/19/2005, Gerry Kirk wrote: >Whenever I write an arrangement and then create parts via "export," I >spend (unnecessary?) time tweaking the individual parts. Specifically, >how do I-- >--have the name of the instrument appear on all pages following p. 1. I don't believe there's a good

Re: [Finale] Sibelius into Finale

2005-03-19 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:21 PM 03/19/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >OK, I have to ask. What's a Scotch Snap? Sixteenth - dotted eighth. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Handwritten fonts

2005-03-19 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:37 AM 03/19/2005, dhbailey wrote: >Aaron Sherber wrote: >> Better: When you point out a wrong note in the (Finale-generated) part >> and are told, "No, I checked the score, and it's the same note there." >> > >Well, that is a bit more difficult, isn&

Re: [Finale] Handwritten fonts

2005-03-18 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:17 PM 03/18/2005, Carl Dershem wrote: >I'm glad I'm not the only one that pulls their hair out when they run >across this. "It looks so professional, it MUST be right!" when the >parts make no sense at all... Better: When you point out a wrong note in the (Finale-generated) part and are tol

Re: [Finale] Alt-v-a

2005-03-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:03 PM 03/16/2005, Keith Helgesen wrote: >I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- >Sure beats pulling down the menu! > >How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW) These are standard Windows shortcuts. In Windows, in any applicat

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:49 PM 03/08/2005, John Roberts wrote: >But it doesn't seem to help extend the interior end of secondary beams. If I >have, say, an eighth note beamed to a 16th triplet, with a rest on the first >note of the triplet - I'd like to extend the interior beam of the triplet to >cover the rest. Yes

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:06 PM 03/08/2005, John Roberts wrote: >I don't see a way to extend secondary beams, either independently (eg >extending a 16th note beam) or in conjunction with the outer beam. Under Special Tools, select the Beam Extension Tool, and click the measure in question. Handles appear on beamed no

Re: [Finale] Bad spacing fixed by TGTools

2005-03-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:39 AM 03/07/2005, Harold Owen wrote: >Sometimes spacing has become jumbled for some reason or other. If >"Incorporate" is set, the jumble is likely to persist after a spacing >command. Then it's a good idea to change to "Clear" and apply spacing >to the measures again. This only works if the

Re: [Finale] Bad spacing fixed by TGTools

2005-03-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:28 AM 03/07/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >The problem only shows in page view. Believe it or not, I've had the problem in scroll view as well. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Bad spacing fixed by TGTools

2005-03-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:14 AM 03/07/2005, Jari Williamsson wrote: >Aaron Sherber wrote: > >> Sometimes I have two identical >> measures in a row, and Finale spaces one correctly and not the other. > >If it's not caused by missing a layout update or some other basic thing, >you shou

Re: [Finale] Bad spacing fixed by TGTools

2005-03-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:43 AM 03/07/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >If you have a file where this is reproducable, you could send it to me >and I'll check whether it still happens in 2k5 (I haven't seen the >problem for a while, but I don't have a bug file of it at hand). Thanks, Johnannes. I haven't got anything at

[Finale] Bad spacing fixed by TGTools

2005-03-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, Every now and then I come upon a measure that Finale just flat out spaces incorrectly. Most often it's either a short note placed too close to its neighbor (so that flags collide with things), or accidentals which are completely ignored in spacing. Sometimes I have two identical measures

Re: [Finale] Tips site update! AND a Simple Entry query

2005-02-26 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:17 AM 02/26/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >While I am still a hard-core Speedy person, I am forced to use Simple >on my laptop when I am away from my desktop computer (MIDI-less Speedy >without a numeric keypad is rather clumsy, IMHO) I recently bought a USB numeric keypad for just this reas

Re: [Finale] new and improved text tool

2005-02-23 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:31 AM 02/23/2005, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >5) the inability to group expressions into collections, so that in my >expression list, I could define a group, "dynamics", place all the >dynamics related expressions into that, and collapse the group when I >wanted to view only the "tempo" related

Re: [Finale] new and improved text tool

2005-02-23 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:41 AM 02/23/2005, shirling & neueweise wrote: >* The height of the individual item lines in the >Text List has been increased by 25-50% >(previously, any Text above 14pt fixed and many >music symbols - usually 24pt - were only >partially visible). The user can define the size >of the lines in

Re: [Finale] Freeze measure widths?

2005-02-19 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:24 PM 2/19/2005, Mark D Lew wrote: >Yes, I knew I had done it with one of the plug-ins, though I had >forgotten which one. And TG allows negative numbers, too, right? Yes. You can add space at the beginning or end of a measure, or after a partal measure selection (i.e., mid-measure). And a n

Re: [Finale] Freeze measure widths?

2005-02-19 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:27 PM 2/19/2005, Mark D Lew wrote: >Now that you've explained it to me (I don't have 2k5), it sounds useful >to me as is. I can think of times when I've wanted to add blank space >at the beginning or end of the bar without changing the relative >spacing of everything else. You can do this wi

Re: [Finale] Re: Playback options?

2005-02-18 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:37 AM 2/18/2005, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:04:04 -0600, Don Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 4) hold spacebar, drag cursor over notes to hear them: backward, >>forward, held, with shift key to solo > >I've never been able to get this to work - is there some

Re: [Finale] G*d-awful score expressions bug

2005-02-03 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:21 PM 02/03/2005, Andrew Levin wrote: >Score expressions multiplying like tribbles! I don't know if it's >Finale, TGTools, or the score I'm starting with. Oy! Since TGTools was involved, you might try contacting Tobias to see whether he knows anything about this. He usually monitors this lis

Re: [Finale] Smart Line Style (Smart Shapes)

2005-02-02 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:31 AM 02/02/2005, Stig Christensen wrote: >Hey Jari! > >I will try tour progtam! Unfortunately, Forza is Windows-only at the moment -- and it looks like you're on a Mac. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman

Re: [Finale] looking in the archives

2005-02-01 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:24 PM 02/01/2005, Owain Sutton wrote: >I always just use Google, searching 'site:lists.shsu.edu finale' plus >whatever I've after, e.g. 'site:lists.shsu.edu finale "time signature"' As of a week or two ago, this list was changed so that the archive is no longer open to Google, and therefore

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff - Live music

2005-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:37 PM 01/30/2005, Raymond Horton wrote: >There is another, major, difference between musicians fighting for their >jobs, and the ice-deliverers vs. refrigerators comparison. In the >latter case, the new refrigerator was a SUPERIOR product, and the for >the ice deliverers to fight progress wo

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:58 PM 01/30/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Well, what you are effectively saying here is that you support the >workers' right to fight to preserve their jobs -- provided they doesn't >actually succeed. Hmm. Not quite. What I think I said in one of my earlier posts is that I don't think the

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:58 PM 01/30/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >I'm not clear on a point of semantics ­ what is the difference in your >mind between "restricting" and "limiting" refrigerator manufacture? >Because I don't see a difference. There is no difference; I should have used the same word twice. The ice u

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:54 PM 01/30/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >It's no more "artificial" for workers to fight for their jobs than it >is for corporations to try to eliminate jobs. For crissakes, the >entire free market system is an "artificial" human construct. > >Again, it doesn't matter if you're a musician,

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:56 PM 01/30/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >On 30 Jan 2005, at 12:05 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: > >> Personally, as I've said before, I find the labor issue the least >> convincing of these three. > >Why? When corporations act in their own economic interests by c

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:22 AM 01/30/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >I agree with your point, but what is lost to society when we need fewer >welders, as opposed to what is lost when musicians are forced out of >the business? I was in the middle of responding to a different post when this one from Christopher arrive

Re: [Finale] The ARCHIVE Password

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:34 PM 01/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >I strongly doubt that's a valid explanation. > >Much more likely is that the spammers are using an SMTP program that >caches the DNS information for too long. Yes, that's also possible. A random sampling of the headers of these emails shows that the

Re: [Finale] The ARCHIVE Password

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:53 PM 01/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >Eh? If the account existed and was on spammers' lists before you shut >down the Everyone.net hosting, then it's just leftover and coming >through just because the account is still active (or you have crazily >set up a catch-all, which is useless in th

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:47 PM 01/29/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >You don't accept the right of a group who stands to get screwed royally >(musicians) by a large company to collectively negotiate fair wages and >working conditions??!! No, that's not what I said. I'm not questioning the principle of unionization.

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:10 PM 01/29/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >If musicians won't fight for our own interests, who will? > >Maybe the Virtual Orchestra Machine will put us all out of business one >day. Who knows? This is true. And maybe short-term use of the Sinfonia will make it possible for more opera compa

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:39 PM 01/29/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >Where the difference is, is that computers have not put engravers out >of work (except in the very lowest echelons of publication) to the same >extent that sequencers have cut into musicians' jobs. There is not >enough work to go around to all the d

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:35 PM 01/29/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >> Ah, that's a tricky one. I can't speak to the finances of that >> particular show, and since you call it a mega-hit, it's entirely >> possible that what I'm about to say doesn't apply there at all. > >In this case, your last phrase was correct. Ye

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:11 PM 01/29/2005, Carl Dershem wrote: >Aaron Sherber wrote: > > > Devil's advocate, for a moment: Why couldn't the musicians left without >> a gig sharpen *their* computer skills, and use their advanced >> musicianship to help make sampled or sequence

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, I wanted to weigh in with a few thoughts on this issue. It's a very complex one, with compelling arguments on both sides. To forestall a huge flame war, I'd like to start by pointing out that as a conductor, I come down strongly in favor of live performance and live performers, no questi

Re: [Finale] The ARCHIVE Password

2005-01-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:24 AM 01/29/2005, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >leads me to the speculate a bit. When you set up an email account, your >ID is placed in some table. Now if a person, not necessarily associated >with your ISP knows the address of that table, and how to access it's >contents, it would be trivial t

Re: [Finale] The ARCHIVE Password

2005-01-26 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:07 PM 01/26/2005, d. collins wrote: >Many mailing lists have searchable archives without these archives being >open to the public and to Google. Yes, but Henry/SHSU have so far not provided this kind of searching facility. And without it, there's no point in having the archives. >I'm not ag

Re: [Finale] The ARCHIVE Password

2005-01-26 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:46 PM 01/26/2005, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >archives, and I'll greatly miss this ability if no searching facility >is added into the mailman/pipermail interface. I couldn't agree more. There's no point to the archives if they're not searchable. Aaron. ___

Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug in Action

2005-01-23 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:28 PM 01/23/2005, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >Not on Word Mac version. If you try to open the same doc, it will >replace the open one. In the effect, it does Revert to Saved. Not *open* the same doc, just a new window. In WinWord, I can do Window | New Window, which is exactly the same menu comm

Re: [Finale] File Overwrite Bug in Action

2005-01-23 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:27 AM 01/23/2005, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >Jari Williamsson / 05.1.23 / 04:54 AM wrote: > >>* Have you had multiple windows for the same document opened? > > >I even didn't know this is possible. I just tried, and sure enough, >Finale let you do this. But why? So you can easily copy music fro

Re: [Finale] Multiple Time Sigs

2005-01-22 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:37 AM 01/22/2005, dhbailey wrote: >I would only add that you can configure the default appearance of >triplets before you begin to enter the notes and set things so that no >bracket and no number shows up, to make life easier. Or, after inserting your double time sig, you can then define the

Re: [Finale] PDF disaster

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:49 PM 01/21/2005, Stephen Onwood wrote: >Zoomed in at 1600% on the dashtest.pdf in Acrobat reader 6 and the staff >lines and the bar line >(including dotted bar lines) are composed of 4 various thickness lines. >Date and rests are solid. I haven't been following this whole thread. I agree th

Re: [Finale] mailing lists and spam

2005-01-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:10 AM 01/14/2005, d. collins wrote: >What is there to gain in having the archives open to everyone and Google? Without Google, it looks like you can't actually *search* the archives. I would say this makes the archives fairly useless. Aaron. ___ F

Re: [Finale] Page Margins printing question

2005-01-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:17 PM 01/13/2005, Geoffrey Whittall wrote: >I'm using Finale Mac 2004, and there's something I've never been able to = >figure out, over several generations of use. When I set the page margins >= >in a typical piece of software, nothing gets printed by the software = >outside of t

Re: [Finale] Prev/Next measure in scroll view

2005-01-11 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:33 PM 01/11/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: >On the Mac, Fin2005, it's command-page up and command-page down. >Usually the way these commands translate to the PC are control-page up >and down. > >I was amazed to learn this just recently. I have no idea how long it >has been available. Only sin

Re: [Finale] Plu-gins or features

2005-01-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:24 PM 01/06/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: > >On Jan 6, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Stephen Onwood wrote: >> Why can't we apply hairpins to multiple staves simultaneously, or at >> least copy and paste them? 'Twould be nice! >> >You can copy and paste them. Set Mass Edit to copy only >Measure-attache

Re: [Finale] Black Hole (OT)

2005-01-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:43 PM 01/05/2005, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: >B Flat. Do any of you know of a source towards which I can point my >daughter in the hopes of investigating this phenomenon? Sure. Just Google for: "black hole" sound flat and you'll get a whole bunch of hits. Aaron.

Re: [Finale] MIDI transcriptionism-reply to Christopher

2005-01-03 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:00 AM 01/03/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I saw that David Hage cleared this up. The notation that Bruce was >describing sounded like the way coma sopras are written in paper and >pencil scores... That's 'come sopra' (okay, technically 'cóme sopra'), of course -- Italian for 'as above'.

[Finale] Stretching expressions

2005-01-01 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, I have a score in which I want to put something like "accel.poco.a.poco" over several measures. If I place this as a score expression, it won't stretch over a system break. That is, if the expression begins in a measure at the end of a system, it will just run off the edge o

Re: [Finale] Time Signatures

2004-12-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:29 PM 12/31/2004, Taris L Flashpaw wrote: >I was wondering if there was any way to make time signatures display >without the denominator. ie: Instead of 16/8, just have '16' centered on >the staff. I can think of a couple of ways. If you want this throughout the whole piece, first define

Re: [Finale] re: OT: Who are you?

2004-12-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:03 PM 12/28/2004, Ralph Whitfield wrote: >I'm married with a 9 year old son (who shows no real interest in music >except for Arrowsmith. Go figure.) That would be Aerosmith -- which I guess shows just how far apart generations *really* are. Aaron.

Re: [Finale] Dear Collective Wisdom

2004-12-25 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:07 PM 12/25/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I am engraving a set of parts that have extensive multimeasure rests. In >many cases during these rests there are slight tempo modifications such as >"rather broader", "poco rall.", "In tempo" and so on. Do you break the >rests to show where these

RE: [Finale] TallMetricFonts

2004-12-18 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:33 PM 12/18/2004, Lee Actor wrote: >Do you already have the font, and if so, do you like it? I would interested >in buying it if compound meters using the "+" symbol looks good. I don't have it yet. If I decide to get it, I could put up some PDFs with some compound meters -- or maybe someon

RE: [Finale] TallMetricFonts

2004-12-18 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:32 PM 12/18/2004, Lee Actor wrote: >The easiest way is to go is to pick one size and put 2 or 3 instances up and >down the score, independent of staff groups. that way you just change the >font assigned to time signatures and everything works automatically. It's >not exactly what you want,

[Finale] TallMetricFonts

2004-12-18 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, I have a score with many changes of time signature, and I'm interested in doing something like what can be done with TallMetricFonts ( http://hometown.aol.com/loudfonts/TalMetri.htm ). But I'm a little daunted at the task of creating expressions in several different heights for my diffe

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