[geo] Geo-eng. Costs/mechanisms/restoration

2008-09-01 Thread John Latham
Hello Dan, Briefly to respond to points in your 3 messages today (9/1). 1. Our cloud-albedo global temperature stabilisation scheme does not involve the creation of clouds (fake or otherwise). Nor is it accurately represented by your "shooting various things into the clouds .". If you

[geo] Latham comments. Geo-eng. Costs/mechanisms/restoration

2008-09-01 Thread John Latham
Hello again Dan, Ken pointed out what I had missed in my midnight missive to you below, namely that you are not the originator of the comments I responded to, but simply the reporter. I'm very sorry that I screwed up. All Best, John. Quoting John Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[geo] Re: Unmanned Maritime Vehicle (UMV)

2008-09-09 Thread John Latham
Hello dsw, In response to yr interesting note, and on the assumption that the cloud albedo enhancement technique could be deployed:- 1. Re localised applications, it could prove to be efficacious with respect to (1) Arctic ice-cover restoration: (2) hurricane emasculation (by cooling the o

[geo] Re: The Arctic Challenge - cloud brightening

2008-09-10 Thread John Latham
Hello All, Yes, it is certainly true that we havent brightened a single cloud. Unfortunately we have not yet managed to acquire the funding needed for the required field experiment. However, we derive preliminary encouragement from the facts that (1) ship-tracks are a clear manifestation

[geo] Hurricane emasculation

2008-09-24 Thread John Latham
Hello All, .. far better in my view to cool the ocean waters in which hurricanes spawn and develop. There are at least a couple of ideas for doing this which hold significant promise. Hurricane water is needed on land for agriculture etc. Emasculating but not eliminating them (droppin

[geo] Re: Our approach to Climate

2008-09-24 Thread John Latham
Well said, Ken! Cheers, John. Quoting "Ken Caldeira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This abstract by Lindzen is offensive. To write something like: > > When an issue becomes a vital part of a political agenda, as > is the case with climate, then the politically desired position > becomes a

[geo] Re: Hurricane emasculation

2008-09-24 Thread John Latham
hurricane is converting energy at the rate of >>> something like >>> a megaton every ten seconds. Interfering with this would be very >>> problematic >>> using a nuclear explosion--or even a number of them--and allowing a >>> relatively small dissipa

[geo] Re: Geobusters Part 4: Brighter World

2008-10-10 Thread John Latham
urgh EH9 3JL > Scotland > tel +44 131 650 5704 > fax +44 131 650 5702 > Mobile 07795 203 195 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.see.ed.ac.uk/~shs > > > > Alvia Gaskill wrote: >> Resuming my review of the Discovery Channel Project Earth series with >> the episode calle

[geo] Re: Father of Sulfate Aerosols Idea Says Its Not His Baby

2008-10-12 Thread John Latham
Hello All, Thanks again to Alvia for unearthing another thought-provoking article. The following will (I hope) already be known to most readers of this blog, but in case there are interested others I'd like to correct some of the statements made in the article regarding our cloud-albedo-e

[geo] Re: Geobusters Part 4: Brighter World

2008-10-13 Thread John Latham
Hello Alvia et al., In my final interview for the documentary I was asked several times to identify what was the most important thing we learned from the multi-flare demonstration. I understood why they were asking but I couldn't satisfy them. They tried one last time. My exasperated "Bu

[geo] Re: Parliament next monday (typos corrected)

2008-11-12 Thread John Latham
Ken, Please keep walking the tightrope, despite the crosswinds. It's crucially important that you do. Cheers, John. Quoting "Ken Caldeira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > John, > > In attempting to move ahead politically, it is neither necessary nor > desirable that we speak with a unified voice

[geo] Power of Words: science & technology of climate cooling ???

2008-11-25 Thread John Latham
Hello John, Ken et al., I've always liked "climate restoration" because - though we'll never achieve it precisely - it's what we're seeking, and is much less likely to scare the pants off the public than the imperious "geo-engineering". But when we're trying to be as exact as possible my

[geo] Re: Power of Words: science & technology of climate cooling ???

2008-11-25 Thread John Latham
o limit > global climate change. > > Mike MacCracken > > On 11/25/08 10:26 AM, "John Latham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello John, Ken et al., >> >> I've always liked "climate restoration" because - thou

[geo] Re: Climate restoration and ecosystem recovery - new proposal

2008-11-28 Thread John Latham
hat using just one of those is like walking on > one leg, missing the point of the rhythm of science. > > > But...what funding source? Government, of course, is paralyzed. > > > Gregory Benford > > > -Original Message- > From: John Nissen <[EMAIL

[geo] JL reply to Alvia: Climate restoration and ecosystem recovery - newproposal

2008-11-29 Thread John Latham
cceeded with clouds present, I would say > that the results were encouraging, but not yet conclusive. > > > ** - Original Message - From: "John Latham" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "John Nissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

[geo] Seminar Warns Congress of Evils of Aerosol Geoengineering

2008-12-01 Thread John Latham
Hello Alvia et al., I'm not sure who is defining the Crutzen stratospheric scheme as "Aerosol Engineering", but it is misleading in the sense that: (1) there are other stratospheric seeding ideas, suggested principally by Lowell Wood, which do not possess the disadvantages adduced to the

[geo] Re: REGARDING DETERIORATION OF GEOENGINEERING GOOGLEGROUP

2008-12-19 Thread John Latham
Hello Ken, Googlegroup has been immensely valuable ever since its inception, which was entirely due to you. I totally understand your current frustration. But it'd be a major loss if it ceased, and without you it would be sorely diminished. So please adopt Option 1. Hopefully, after an ap

[geo] Re: Badgering Geoengineering - cloud seeding

2009-01-25 Thread John Latham
wide ranging discussion of points made or not made in the original > posting. Worthwhile reading. I note however, that no one has taken > issue with the statement made that John Latham and others are doing > experiments with "cloud seeding" off the coast of Chile. Are

[geo] Cloud Seeding - State-manufactured snowfall closes 12 highways

2009-02-20 Thread John Latham
r in the provincial > meteorological observatory, was quoted as saying. > > In all, 12 outbound highways were shut down, including one linking the > capital with Shenyang, capital of the northeastern Liaoning province > (Nick Macfie, Reuters > <http://in.reuters.com/article/enviro

[geo] Ice-9: Cloud Seeding - State-manufactured snowfall closes 12 highways

2009-02-20 Thread John Latham
quot;Hawkins, Dave" : > not to be confused with Kurt Vonnegut's ice-nine > > ________ > > From: John Latham [mailto:john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk] > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:25 PM > To: Hawkins, Dave > Cc: geoengineering > Subject

[geo] Other aerosol scheme: John Holdren puts geoengineering on the table

2009-04-09 Thread John Latham
it might be less >> costly, he said. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kelly Wanser" >> To: "geoengineering" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:52 AM >> Subject: [geo] John Holdren puts geoengineering on the table >> >>

[geo] Marine cloud albedo enhancement: EGU meeting, April 19-24

2009-04-21 Thread John Latham
exist to achieve > these very challenging objectives. The economic > > reduction potential of these options will be given as well as > their costs. > > Finally, the policies needed to realize the reduction potential > will be discussed. > > > > There seems little sense of emergency, despite the looming > cryosphere dangers. Dis

[geo] Re: stopping hurricanes

2009-05-05 Thread John Latham
for Katrina: > http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/hurricane-katrina-claims-47010702 > > It is possible that Stephen Salter and John Latham have already > proposed this application for their marine cloud brightening > technique, involving the spraying of seawa

[geo] Re: stopping hurricanes

2009-05-05 Thread John Latham
nate an elegant idea with a modicum of physics. Cheers, John. Quoting Andrew Lockley : > Yep, but only lightening storms become hurricanes. You have to zap them > when they're tiny wee things. > A > > 2009/5/5 John Latham > >> Hello Andrew, >> >

[geo] Re: some eco criteria for geoengineering?

2009-05-06 Thread John Latham
associated with their possible adoption. It is too early to know whether or not this will be the case. All Best, John. John Latham Quoting jim woolridge : > > Perhaps the primary objection to any and all of the geoengineering > proposals that have so far

[geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season

2009-06-13 Thread John Latham
t; [mailto:geoengineer...@googlegroups.com] >>>> De la part de dsw_s >>>> Envoyé : mercredi 10 juin 2009 10:55 >>>> À : geoengineering >>>> Objet : [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season >>> >>>> To have harmful wind speeds,

[geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season

2009-06-13 Thread John Latham
You are right, of course, Mike! Cheers, John. Quoting Mike MacCracken : > Hi John—I certainly agree with you for dealing with storms generally—not > sure you could do for a particular storm, which is what the > question/suggestion related to. > > > On 6/13/09 11:33 PM, &q

[geo] Comments on Mike MacCracken article & cloud albedo scheme

2009-06-17 Thread John Latham
sideration at an >> appropriate regional or global forum. >> >> None of these actions would be a substitute for aggressive global mitigation >> of emissions or alleviate all of the adverse consequences. However, they >> could more

[geo] Re: Pros and Cons of SRM geoengineering more widely

2009-07-21 Thread John Latham
d cons of geoengineering" thread: > http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering/browse_thread/thread/b045b6428fc89a93/95b940c3c3352e35?#95b940c3c3352e35 > > [2] Aerosol effects investigated by Met Office: > http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2009/pr20090604.html > &

[geo] Re: [clim] Yet another positive feedback - ja

2009-07-27 Thread John Latham
- so what. >> >> Tom. >> >> + >> >> Stephen Salter wrote: >>> Hi All >>> >>> Science July 24 from >>> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/325/5939/460.pdf has a >>> something about a positive f

Re: Fw: [geo] Royal society report

2009-10-02 Thread John Latham
/05/09 >> 17:50:00 >> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date:

RE: [geo] Greenland ice sheet - tipping in progress

2009-11-18 Thread John Latham
lbert Kallio'; m.hu...@uea.ac.uk; 'John Davies'; > christ...@christianclot.com; 'Edward Hanna'; 'R.D. Schuiling'; John Latham; > Geoengineering; P. Wadhams; Mark Serreze > Subject: Re: [geo] Greenland ice sheet - tipping in progress > > > > Hi Ol

[geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research

2009-12-16 Thread John Latham
unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > >> geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> > . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted te

[geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research

2009-12-16 Thread John Latham
Quoting John Latham : > Hello Neil, Andrew et al. > > Cloud seeding (principally to make rain) has had a long and highly > chequered history in the 60 years since Vonnegut, Schaefer & Langmuir > did their pioneering work. Many studies since then were contaminated > b

Re: [geo] Re: cloud seeding - need for research - ja

2009-12-16 Thread John Latham
reater likelihood of storms > depositing snow on Greenland (or Antarctica, etc.) has not, to my knowledge, > been looked at at all. > > Mike > > > On 12/16/09 4:00 AM, "John Latham" wrote: > >> Hello Neil, Andrew et al. >> >> Cloud seeding (pri

[geo] Rasch Latham Chen paper on Cloud Whitening & polar Ice Cover etc

2009-12-18 Thread John Latham
To:- geoengineering Hello All, A paper "Geo-engineering by cloud seeding: influence on sea-ice and climate system by Phil Rasch, John Latham & Jack Chen has just been published online in the geo-eng special issue of Environ. Res. Lett. 4 (2009) 045112. It's primary f

[geo] Nathan Myhrvold argues for geoengineering: two schemes better than one?

2009-12-27 Thread John Latham
il to geoengineer...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. > > > -- John Latham lat...@ucar.edu &

Re: [geo] Polar Sea-Ice Maintenance - SRM time-frames

2010-02-12 Thread John Latham
ld be be started this year, to at least to establish an engineering solution that could be quickly scaled up. Cheers, John --- John Latham wrote: > * > * > * > * To:- > geoengineering@googlegroups.com,climateintervent...@googlegroups.com > > From:- john latham lat

Re: [geo] Nature: Rain-making lasers could trigger showers on demand

2010-05-03 Thread John Latham
.1038/nphoton.2010.115 (2010). > 2. Kasparian, J. et al. Opt. Express 16, 5757-5763 (2008). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "geoengineering" group. > To post to this group, send email to geoengineer...@googl

[geo] Impact of cloud brightening on rainfall over land: Science News geoengineering story

2010-05-30 Thread John Latham
cause you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Climate Intervention" group. >> To post to this group, send email to climateintervent...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> climateintervention+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >>

Re: [geo] SEA ICE LOSS STUNS SCIENTISTS - open letter to John Holdren

2010-07-12 Thread John Latham
20Arctic%20Ice.pdf >> >> [2] >> http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png >> >> [3] http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20100608_Figure5.png > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >

Re: [geo] Can solar radiation management be tested?

2010-09-27 Thread John Latham
abs/caldeiralab @kencaldeira >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "geoengineering" group. >> To post to this group, send email to geoengineer...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this

Re: [geo] Can solar radiation management be tested? Cloud whitening - More!

2010-09-28 Thread John Latham
Farm Road > New Brunswick, NJ 08901 > > rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu > http://www.envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock/ > Sent from my iPhone. +1-732-881-1610 > > On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:44 PM, John Latham > wrote: > >> Hello Alan and colleagues, >> I agree

Re: [geo] Re: Can solar radiation management be tested?

2010-09-28 Thread John Latham
nguished Professor) >> Department of Environmental Sciences >> Rutgers University >> 14 College Farm Road >> New Brunswick, NJ 08901 >> >> rob...@envsci.rutgers.eduhttp://www.envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock/ >> Sent from my iPhone. +1-732-881-1610 >> >>

Cloud Brightening:[geo] Geoengineering at EGU 2011, April 3-8

2011-03-10 Thread John Latham
n. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "geoengineering" group. > To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > geoengineering+unsubscr...@goog

Re: [geo] MERGING 'climateIntervention' AND 'geoengineering' GOOGLE GROUPS BACK INTO

2011-03-13 Thread John Latham
.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. > > -- John Latham lat...@ucar.edu &john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel

RE: [geo] How would you allocate US$10 million per year to most reduce climate risk?

2011-04-19 Thread John Latham
Hello Ken, I think the "urgency argument" points towards early funding of research into promising SRM techniques. The three ideas that have significant likelihood of being quantitatively adequate, yet need substantially more research (and therefore funding), particularly regarding technologic

[geo] Bright Water & Marine Cloud Brtightening: COMPATIBILITY

2011-04-21 Thread John Latham
Hello All, An issue that has been raised informally between Russell (Seitz) and members of our cloud brightening team, but probably not mentioned more broadly, is the potentially significant compatibility between our two SRM geoengineering techniques. Both schemes require much more research be

[geo] Response to Cloud Brightening Comments by Mark M.: "Can SRM save our bacon?"

2011-05-16 Thread John Latham
sea-ice coverage at both poles roughly constant up to the 2xCO2 point. Cheers,Johnlat...@ucar.edu John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work)303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444

RE: [geo] Cloud condensation nuclei research

2011-08-26 Thread John Latham
supersaturation was much higher than occurs is natural clouds.. Cheers, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK

RE: [geo] GEOENGINEERING IMPLICATIONS: Adapting to Climate Change - Issue 19

2011-09-01 Thread John Latham
Hello Albert, Stephen Salter has done a great deal of worl on this! Cheers,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724

RE: [geo] Thunder and lightning - ja

2011-12-05 Thread John Latham
development. Cheers,John. lat...@ucar.edu John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http

[geo] RE: Aerosol engineers: Intergenerational criminals?

2011-12-06 Thread John Latham
countries, have created. Best Wishes, John Latham lat...@ucar.edu John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730

RE: [geo] RE: Aerosol engineers: Intergenerational criminals?

2011-12-08 Thread John Latham
Hello Steve, Thank you for your sensitive comments. I look fwd to reading yr papers as soon as my recovery from eye surgery is a little more advanced. All Best Wishes, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha

REGIONAL GEOENG POSSIBILITIES: [geo] New Article on Aerosols and South Asian Monsoons in Science

2011-12-10 Thread John Latham
lat...@ucar.edu John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.ed

[geo] Electromagnetic Forced Precipitation.

2011-12-30 Thread John Latham
and comprehensive peer review. Happy New Year!, John. {lat...@ucar.edu} John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or

RE: [geo] Ballistics - failure to distinguish

2012-03-14 Thread John Latham
dnt have written at this point, but this lack of distinction has been made recently by others, too. Good luck with yr poster. All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8

RE: [geo] Ballistics - failure to distinguish

2012-03-14 Thread John Latham
Hello All, Please see below message from Roger Angel All Best John (Latham) Hello Roger, I've sent on yr message (below), as requested, to: [geoengineering@googlegroups.com] Good to hear fro

RE: [geo] tropospheric aerosol use

2012-03-16 Thread John Latham
. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham

RE: [geo] Re: We are top story on BBC environmental news

2012-03-18 Thread John Latham
e in crash programmes of research now, which means that we need immediately to obtain the required funding. [How, I dont know, I'm afraid]. All Best, John (Latham) John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester

RE: [geo] Re: We are top story on BBC environmental news

2012-03-18 Thread John Latham
ible role of MCB in inhibiting coral bleaching. Should the work turn out to be potentially valuable, the required field-testing of the idea need only be on a small spatial scale. All Best, John (L). John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or

RE: [geo] Source on SRM causing warming - tropospheric health effects.

2012-03-19 Thread John Latham
, almost all of which would fall back into the oceans. All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928

[geo] RE: Rough sketch of a small-scale tropospheric aerosol program

2012-03-21 Thread John Latham
Hello David, I'm in strong agreement with the basic content and spirit of your letter below. However, it would help me to know what you regard as "some serious disadvantages" of MCB. All Best Wishes, John. . John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-

RE: [geo] Re: Possible Emergency MCB Response

2012-03-23 Thread John Latham
important issue, but we need also to have CCN-laden air rising up into the clouds. I think using liquid air would inhibit the upward motion. The extra CCN need to enter the clouds at their bases, not their summits. Cheers,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000

RE: [geo] Re: Possible Emergency MCB Response

2012-03-23 Thread John Latham
. So seeding has to be at cloud base. Airborne seeding has of course been successfully used in weather Mod work, but here we're talking of almost global scale seeding All Best,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.

RE: [geo] Re: Why exclusive focus on Sulphur?

2012-03-23 Thread John Latham
th much more of the latter than the former). Before you write a proposal it's vital to determine whether the processes involved are consistent with the (surprisingly tricky) cloud physics. Good Luck, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email:

RE: [geo] Ethics of Geoengineering (anything new?)

2012-04-06 Thread John Latham
ought to be important or valid, which could profitably be addressed now. I do not know the answer to this question. All Best Wishes, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-81

RE: [geo] Good popsci article on key SRM facilitator tech

2012-04-27 Thread John Latham
supported SRM idea. It can easily handle having a few neighbours. You are of course not the only one who doesnt make this distiction. All Best Wishes, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work

[geo] MCB paper

2012-08-09 Thread John Latham
Hello Andrew, I hope you dont mind my checking with you as to whether you kindly sent out to Google-group members the pdf I sent to you of our Phil Trans Roy Soc MCB paper. I feel sure that you did, but I've had no reaction and I dont seem to have recd a copy. All Best Wishes, John.

RE: [geo] WWF Now Supports Geoengineering Research

2012-09-15 Thread John Latham
Hello Emily, Yours seems like very good advice, which we should heed. Best Wishes,John (Latham) John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell

[geo]

2012-09-29 Thread John Latham
lat...@ucar.edu John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham -- You

[geo] Ken Caldeira - Yale interview. Response

2012-09-29 Thread John Latham
concomitant demise of billions of other people who are not in a position to influence their own future. Best Wishes,John lat...@ucar.edu John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US

[geo] Guardian articles on geo-engineering

2012-10-11 Thread John Latham
To:- [kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu];[andrew.lock...@gmail.com];[j...@noc.soton.ac.uk];[rea...@guardian.co.uk];[john.vi...@guardian.co.uk];[chris.elli...@guardian.co.uk];[david_ke...@harvard.edu];[geoengineering@googlegroups.com] From:- John Latham [lat...@ucar.edu] 12/10/12 To The Guardian

[geo] Localisation Geoengineering Could Be Essential to Reducing the Risk of Climate Change | MIT Technology Review

2012-10-27 Thread John Latham
aken the strength of hurricanes (and the associated damage) by cooling the surface waters in regions where hurricanes spawn.We have just published a paper on this topic:- John Latham, Ben Parkes, Alan Gadian,Stephen Salter, 2012. Weakening of Hurricanes via Marine Cloud Brightening

[geo] RE: X ray cloud seeding?

2012-12-07 Thread John Latham
therefore droplet number concentration and cloud albedo in existing clouds. . This is the principle of cloud brightening. Not creating clouds, but brightening existing ones! All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or

RE: [geo] Hurricane weakening via Marine Cloud Brightening MCB

2012-12-07 Thread John Latham
Many Thanks, Mike. Interesting! Should certainly be looked in to. All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724

RE: [geo] Hurricane weakening via Marine Cloud Brightening MCB

2012-12-08 Thread John Latham
than $100M per year. Any suggestions as to how to procure the required support would be most welcome. Best Wishes, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-242

RE: [geo] How will geoengineers address the statements of the AMS, WMO, and NRC on Weather Modification?

2012-12-27 Thread John Latham
Hello Jim, In the case of Marine Cloud Brightening, the sprayed material to enhance cloud albedo is seawater. The energy for spraying, guiding the spray-ships etc comes from the wind. Cheers, John (Latham) John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat

Re: [geo] Can super-super-super computers really help climate engineering efforts?

2015-05-15 Thread John Latham
Hello Alan, Great! Keep on with the good work! Cheers, John On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Alan Gadian wrote: > > The answer is yes. See publications on marine cloud brightening. > Currently global simulations are being carried out with large nested > domains down to 3km. To do the simulati

Re: [geo] Comparing MCB v. Aerosol SRM

2015-05-31 Thread John Latham
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. John Latham. Comparison of Sulphur & MCB ideas.docx Description: MS-Word 2007 document

Re: [geo] Comparing MCB v. Aerosol SRM

2015-06-02 Thread John Latham
cost calculations which indicate that MCB is cheaper than the sulphur technique. I'm sure that he'd provide you with a copy of his calculations ,[ s.sal...@ed.ac.uk] Best Wishes John [John Latham,[johnlatha...@gmail.com] On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Dr D wrote: > I&#x

Re: [geo] On why we'll very likely need climate engineering

2015-06-03 Thread John Latham
they have been rigorously field-tested. It is not sufficient to say that MCB will work because ship-tracks enhance cloud brightness. All Best Wishes, John [John Latham] On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Alan Robock wrote: > Dear Mike and Jon, > > I agree with Jon. > > And Mi

[geo] Brief Summary Marine Geoengineering Techniques - MVB points

2013-02-18 Thread John Latham
...@ucar.edu Papers relevant to the above points are listed below:- Philip J Rasch, John Latham & Chih-Chieh (Jack) Chen, Geoengineering by cloud seeding: influence on sea ice and climate system. Environ. Res. Lett. 4 (2009) 045112 (8pp) doi:10.1088/1748-9326/4/4/045112 John La

RE: [geo] pre-print of forth-coming paper: Svoboda, T and Irvine, PJ, "Ethical and Technical Challenges in Compensating for Harm Due to Solar RadiationManagement Geoengineering"

2013-02-20 Thread John Latham
e impacts. It behoves us therefore to become more enlightened re seeding patterns. Cheers, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell)

[geo] Re: Strategic incentives for climate geoengineering coalitions to exclude broad participation (new paper)

2013-02-20 Thread John Latham
, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham

RE: [geo] pre-print of forth-coming paper: Svoboda, T and Irvine, PJ, "Ethical and Technical Challenges in Compensating for Harm Due to Solar RadiationManagement Geoengineering"

2013-02-21 Thread John Latham
three-stage field test of MCB [which may never be conducted]. It would last for several weeks and be conducted over an oceanic area of about 100km x 100km. John Latham, Keith Bower, Tom Choularton, Hugh Coe, Paul Connolly, Gary Cooper,Tim Craft, Jack Foster, Alan Gadian, Lee Galbraith, Hector Iaco

[geo] Weather & Climate Control via Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB)

2013-03-29 Thread John Latham
obal Temperature Stabilization via Controlled Albedo Enhancement of Low-level Maritime Clouds. Phil. Trans. Roy. Soc. A, 366, 3969-3987,doi:10.1098/rsta.2008.0137. John Latham, Keith Bower, Tom Choularton, Hugh Coe, Paul Connolly, Gary Cooper,Tim Craft, Jack Foster, Alan Gadian, Lee Galbraith, He

[geo] SRM and droughts in the Sahel - rectification

2013-04-02 Thread John Latham
MCB, in principle, could also be used to address much smaller-scale issues, such as hurricane weakening and coral reef preservation: and could perhaps prove helpful regarding the prevention of polar sea-ice loss Best Wishes, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307

RE: [geo] SRM and droughts in the Sahel - rectification

2013-04-02 Thread John Latham
Hello Oliver, Thank you for the correction. Apologies! I must have muddled-up the authorships of the various papers. All Best Wishes from yr semi-senile friend,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha

RE: [geo] The importance of response times for various climate strategies - Springer

2013-05-21 Thread John Latham
g the choices of the locations at which sprayiing occurs. The same principles could be applied to sub-global MCB geo-engineering, in the cases of coral reef protection and weakening of hurricanes, via propitiously chosen surface water cooling. All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 300

RE: [geo] Re: Reply to Ken Caldeira

2013-06-01 Thread John Latham
Hello Andrew, I think you do a very difficult job extremely well, handling tricky issues fairly and with great sensitivity. Thank you! John (Latham) John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303

[geo] Marine Cloud Brightening pros & cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread John Latham
ce water temperatures in appropriate oceanic areas. Best Wishes, John. 10. John Latham, Keith Bower, Tom Choularton, Hugh Coe, Paul Connolly, Gary Cooper,Tim Craft, Jack Foster, Alan Gadian, Lee Galbraith, Hector Iacovides, David Johnston, Brian Launder, Brian Leslie, John Meyer, Armand Ne

RE: [geo] Re: Marine Cloud Brightening pros & cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread John Latham
Hello again Alan, I agree entirely with your comments below, and look forward to learning the results of yr assessment. All Best,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182

[geo] RE: Marine Cloud Brightening pros & cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread John Latham
nsidering. John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/peop

[geo] Marine Cloud Brightening: Rainfall; Patchiness: KenC

2013-06-14 Thread John Latham
earlier papers. Details of a recently published paper on hurricane weakening via MCB are Presented below. A paper on the utilization of MCB for the preservation of coral reefs will be published in 2 or 3 weeks time. Cheers, John. TWO RECENT PAPERS. John Latham, Keith Bower, Tom Choularton, Hugh

RE: [geo] Experiment Currently Taking Place in the Arctic?

2013-06-16 Thread John Latham
Hello All, I'm told that it might be an airborne study associated with the SPICE project, but I cant gauge the accuracy of that supposition. Cheers, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US

RE: [geo] Experiment Currently Taking Place in the Arctic?

2013-06-17 Thread John Latham
Hello Matt, Thank you for the clarification. Apologies for troubling you, and - I hope this makes sense - I'm glad I was misinformed. Best Wishes,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel

RE: [geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

2013-06-17 Thread John Latham
Well said, Mike! I dont know why yr critical point is so often overlooked. Actually, I think I do know. But it's so hard to accept that we can be so obtuse, and also fail to deliver clearly your crucial message,. All Best, John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Bould

FW: [geo] Coral Reef preservation via Marine Cloud Brightening. parasol

2013-06-26 Thread John Latham
From: John Latham Sent: 26 June 2013 22:11 To: Fred Zimmerman Subject: RE: [geo] Coral Reef preservation via Marine Cloud Brightening. Interesting question, Fred. Much yet to be worked out, but I think not the so much shape of a parasol, as of a line of people waiting for bread. The scale

[geo] Response to D Keith lecture at Harvard: SRM definition.

2013-08-06 Thread John Latham
and when all other SRM techniques have been discarded. All best,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK

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