625 19,355 649 15,979
1998-9637 20,405 671 18,216
1999-2000 635 20,123 662 17,788
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You can add Georgia Southern University to that list. It dropped men's cross
country in 1999 (and never had track on the men's side, I've been told).
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:44:53
This was posted on a sports sociology list vis a vis the debate over Title
IX and the cutting of men's programs. Comments welcomed...
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be an
inch or more in length. How this is compacted into a microscopic blob some
1/1000 inch long without getting hopelessly tangled is an engineering marvel
that is still a puzzle.
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The following article in The Black World Today (and another in Africana.com)
addresses an aspect of TF athletes in the winter Olympics...
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they did in the
past. If they were running at the level of Cram, Coe, etc., perhaps they
would be more competitive.
Rich Harrington
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When the gun goes off for the men¹s 1500 metre final at Sunday¹s World
Championships in Edmonton, it might just as well signal the end of an era.
The age of great British middle distance runners is gone forever. Once the
world¹s dominant power, with a bloodline of Sebastian
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I guessed that because the sprints aren't complying with Entine's
bigoted views he'd focus on the 1500.
Nothing new, the same tired, old sh!t.
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the first half? I
never heard anything about any of them since.
Does anyone know if they all burned out, or whether some competed in college
or beyond?
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differences!!
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who have it all: genetics, training, and luck.
Don't remember what the point of this post was. I guess I agree with Jon to
an extent.
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., Peter Schjerling, and Bengt Saltin.
2000. Muscle, Genes and Athletic Performance.
Scientific American 283: 49-55.
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latitudes, a lower level of melanin maximizes the production of
vitamin D.
Hope this clarifies some of the points of debate and makes it clear that
behavior ( and athletic performance) is a bio-social phenomenon.
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This is the link to Tim Noakes' speech before the World Congress on Medicine
and Health July/August 2000. I think it will help clarify many of these
important issues.
http://www.jonentine.com/reviews/world_congress_MM.htm
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I thought the list might like to see some of the silly responses I get off
line (thankfully, most responders aren't quite this insecure). Note that the
poster offers not one iota of evidence to support his innuendos--not one.
Pretty sad.
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this medium. AND it is wrong. I respectfully
request that you apologize to Mr. McCann and the list for this breech of
privacy.
Ben Hall
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stimulates...
... is that the best way to get the dialogue on a 'taboo'
topic out in the open? I'm not sure I know the answer.
It seems to have succeeded in stimulating a lot of
discussion on this list, but how well does that approach
work elsewhere?
RT
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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 15:55:56
From: alan tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: t-and-f: Jon Entine, can we get over this discussion?
Even I am growing tired of this...:) Doesn't matter how many examples we put
out it will always be responded to with the individuals VS group thing.
It's
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Two statements by Jon Entine written in different postings recently
That makes 800 meters very much a distance race
.²
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I do not disagree with Jon Entine outright on any issue as such. Nor am I
ignorant about statistics. I remain open-minded about population genetics
and performance. In fact I started out as a believer. But it is relatively
simple
On 5/3/01 11:58 AM, Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:02:17 -0700
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Try to grasp the difference between INDIVIDUALS and GROUPS. There may be an
ideal body type based
of income.
Richard McCann
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Athletes are not pigeons. Kenyans in particular have shown an amazing
virtuosity across a range of endurance distances.
n 5/3/01 7:47 AM, Bruce Glikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is quite a large gap
between the 400 meter profile and the 800 meter profile. Period.
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Follow the money?one last post...well I guess not
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Follow the money
basketball.
Oleg yet another 'flat-earth creationist'?
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Subject: t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism
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else? I believe our best 800m
runners are running the 400m right now, but have no desire to run 800s
because they would tarnish their appeal. If MJ developed any sort of aerobic
base at all he would demolish the AR and give Joe-Kenyan a run for his
money.
Alan
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soccer teams are we talking about?
Cameroon and Nigeria had a few good moments, but on the world scale...?
Oleg.
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there was a good chance of a record being set? How much of a draw is it
to run in a race in which someone sets a record? Seems to me like the
fastest marathons are also the ones with the most amount of runners.
Alan
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a check to the
address below.
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Creationist!!
Richard McCann
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10k time would still put
him in the top 10 each year.
Alan
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, would dispute.
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Subject: RE: t-and-f: Empirical evidence
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:38:37 -0700
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Subject: t-and-f
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GBTC 32:38
5. Greg Meyer GBTC 32:49
6. Terry Baker Wash. DC 32:58
7. Randy Thomas GBTC 33:03
8. Kyle Heffner Boulder, CO 33:07
9. Benji Durden Georgia 33:09
10. Stan Vernon Oklahoma 33:19
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Except he's wrong.
On 4/25/01 8:02 AM, Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jon Entine said:
Salazar and Kennedy frankly DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. They
are just engaging in a little self-loathing for not being able to keep up
with those who, frankly, are built to run as good
are still
talking about human beings, homo sapiens, doing all this great running why
should I care about the genetics! I have never understood the passion with
which you preach this gospel and after the latest round I still don't.
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be on top of their world. They're
not.
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Talking about Bob Kennedy, Jon Entine wrote:
Except he's wrong.
Kennedy was THERE. His knowledge of Kenyan training is based on his own
first-hand experiences. Are you asserting that he is wrong
. More than 78 percent of recent
top marathons are won by hotspot athletes. Yes, that's catching up.
Next weekend I'll have a major article coming out on Why an American, Brit
or Aussie (Black or White) May Never Win another major marathon
It's based on the article below:
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of the British Isles can do the same.
The problem is probably less a genetic issue than an interest as a competitive
event issue at least in the US and the Celtic states.
Steve S.
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BOTH THE Nigerians and Cameroonians won the world cup.
As I said - stick to what you know.
Both the Nigerians and Cameroons reached the world cup finals, No African
country has won it.
Eygpt - Ea
the book and eat
humble pie. That's what discourse is all about, not questioning that WHICH
YOU HAVE NOT READ.
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Randall--it is what I know. They won the Olympic
the book and eat
humble pie. That's what discourse is all about, not questioning that WHICH
YOU HAVE NOT READ.
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Randall--it is what I know. They won the Olympic
nd get fat. That is why we have the highest child obesity
rate in the worldwe are lazy as a whole. That was not true 50 years ago.
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they don't
realise they have the wrong body shape!
Randall Northam
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of the largest of the native groups came to be known as the Chemwal, the
Kalenjin word meaning raid cattle, or those who steal. It is the
forerunner of the Nandi, who have been a distinct tribe for almost three
centuries.
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uyu, which includes the
Kamba, I believe. Cosmas Ndeti is a Kamba tribesman. Lameck Aguta belongs
to the Kisii tribe. The stats I posted on probabilities extend to these
tribes as well.
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leg.
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Here's some background for those trying to unders
rs under 2:10, maybe even under 2:08:00. Of course the US's best
marathoners are running 10ks right now. Tick, tock, tick, tock
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empirical evidence.
Sorry Randall..
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(which they are not very competitive at
compared to athletes from West Africa -- they don't ha
is renowned in this area, focus on such a late teenage or early twenties
groups.
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Jon Entine wrote:
East Africans
is renowned in this area, focus on such a late teenage or early twenties
groups.
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Jon Entine wrote:
East Africans
but as he
continues to make broad brush strokes based on bad analysis of track
statistics, I start to wonder about expertise in other areas.
Using the Entine yardstick, Munich winners like Kip Keino, Lasse Viren, Rod
Milburn and Viktor Saneyev were also doo-doo because they don't rate highly
o
ting Mr. Entine just calling you to task
and responding to the aura of arrogance that you routinely bring to this
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in
perspective.
Jon Entine
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Sport as Religion
The truth of the unloved and now unmourned German Democratic Republic can be
found in the rubble of the rebuilding effort in East Berlin, Jena, and other
formerly dingy cities where Paleozoic construction sites swarm
n ancestry hold the top 219
and 494 of the top 500 times.
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This is the article. It's actually another documentary:
http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001127/384654.html
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Does anyone know the minimum qualifying times for the 100 meters and 200
meters?
Also, does anyone know where on the Net one could find a list of
qualifiers for the Olympics for various track events?
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1982 11.12[8] 22.39[10]
1983 11.06[6] 22.23[5]
1984 10.99[3] 22.04[5]
1985 11.00[6] 22.46[7]
1986 unranked unranked
1987 10.96[6] 21.96[2]
1988 10.49[1] 21.34[1]
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0 all time 100 meter times
are held by athletes of West African ancestry, yet there are no top
distance runners of primarily West African ancestry.
These are all intriguing questions that deepen our understanding of what
we will see unfold in Sydney!
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Steve--
The flaw in Steve's belief coaches are the primary reason why one runner
excels over another is possible but certainly conjectural. There are
other factors, most prominently genetics, that might reduce the coaching
factor to insignificance.
Jon Entine
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