Re: [313] MG-008

2000-06-23 Thread Tom Robbins
This is a dope record.

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 Greetings

 Moods  Grooves announces it's 8th offering Da Sampla (Anthony Shakir) -
 Samplaholic

 Bridging the divide between house and techno, Da Sampla offers three cuts
in
 this release.  Pop for prime time, The Rider for the late-night, and
 Lamented for chilling out.  Know for his unique style, Shake delivers
the
 goods again.  Out now.

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Fwd: FOUNDATION: robert hood/diz

2000-06-23 Thread JavierDrada
Here is a little something for those up in the Northeast
 
FOUNDATION ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY PARTY
In association with flyer/  vice/  aka.com
  Celebrating a years worth of Real Dance music in NYC

Welcoming back detroit legend
***ROBERT HOOD***dj/live set/ mplant detroit

rare new york appearance by chicago house extrodanaire
DIZ tweekin/guidance chicago

along with FOUNDATION residents
KIMYON
RICH B.
VIKAS

Friday, June 30th @ centrofly 45 W. 21st , NEWYORKCITY
212.627.7770
www.foundationteam.com
much love y'all, hope to see you there
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Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art

2000-06-23 Thread FRED MCMURRY
Alexander Calder pieces are amazing, especially the large mobiles. The 
stabiles have less of an effect of me but the way that the mobiles occupy 
space and are constantly in motion. However, the one artist doing it for me 
right now is the architect Frank O. Gehry who designed the Guggenheim Museum 
in Bilbao. The structures he creates have such flow and life to them and 
they reflect (in form) and play/interact with the surrounding environment. 
Check out the Guggenheim website:


http://www.guggenheim-bilbao.es/ingles/edificio/el_edificio.htm

Below is a copy of the description from said site.

The building itself is an extraordinary combination of interconnecting 
shapes. Orthogonal blocks in limestone contrast with curved and bent forms 
covered in titanium. Glass curtain walls provide the building with the light 
and transparency it needs. Owing to their mathematical complexity, the 
sinuous stone, glass, and titanium curves were designed with the aid of 
computers. The glass walls were made and installed to protect the works of 
art from heat and radiation. The half-millimeter thick fish-scale titanium 
panels covering most of the building are guaranteed to last one hundred 
years. As a whole, Gehry's design creates a spectacular, eminently visible 
structure that has the presence of a huge sculpture set against the backdrop 
of the city.


I've been inside some of his structures and they are wonderful. I'd love to 
live in a house designed by him.


Which brings me to this:

ARCHITETTURA mixed media installation
(film+music+architecture)
a caipirinha productions presentation
a travelling architettura installation makes its way around the globe. it 
features four short films in between live soundscapes by caipirinha 
musicians. in addition, during the musicians performances, we project slides 
of contemporary architecture and design donated to us by the architects 
themselves. this exhibition takes the architettura multimedia project one 
step further in its investigation of contemporary architecture and 
electronic music. the 'architettura' installation can be found at museums, 
cultural centers, art galleries, architecture universities, and film and 
music centers around the world such as walker art center in minneapolis, the 
substation in singapore, the ny moma, artsonje in korea, the lux in 
portugal, and at the brooklyn anchorage.


Here are the dates

AUG 2627/00
TAIPEI TAIWAN - GOLDEN HORSE FESTIVAL
presentation of caipirinha films including 'modulations', 'synthetic 
pleasures', 'an autumn wind' and 'architettura' films as well as live 
performances by architettura' musicians.


AUG 17-22/00
SINGAPORE - THE SUBSTATION
presentation of 'architettura' films as well as live performances by 
'architettura' musicians.


JULY 2931/00
MINNEAPOLIS, MN - WALKER ART CENTER
presentation of 'architettura' films as well as live performances by david 
toop, taylor deupree  savvas ysatis,  panacea


JULY19-23/00
BRAZIL TOUR - BRASILIA 40TH ANNIVERSARY FESTIVAL / BRAZIL 500TH ANNIVERSARY
installations in RIO, SAO PAULO, BELO HORIZONTE, and THE PAMPULHA MUSEUM IN 
DIAMNTINA designed by oscar niemeyer. presentation of 'architettura' films 
bu iara lee as well as live performances by taylor
deupree  savvas ysatis, panacea, and steve roden and visual presentation on 
contemporary architecture.


JUNE 7/00
MONTREAL, CANADA - EX- CENTRIS - MUTEK MUSIC FESTIVAL
presentation of 'architettura' films as well as live performances by taylor 
deupree  savvas ysatis,  panacea


MAY 26-27/00
SEOUL, KOREA - ARTSONJE
festival of korean american artists. presentation of 'architettura' films as 
well as live performances by taylor deupree


MAY 25/00
NEW YORK CITY- DOCOMOMO
panel discussion: BRASILIA 2000: The Modern City includes a special 
presentation of the 'architettura' films and 'architettura' music. 
co-sponsored and hosted by the America's Society in their landmark 1909 
McKim Mead and White building at 680 Park Avenue. RSVP


MAY 19/00
SAN FRANCISCO MOMA
and blasthaus present FORMULA featuring Architettura with a presentation 
of the 'architettura' films by iara lee as well as live performances by 
sound track, steve roden, and datach'i and visual presentation on 
contemporary architecture.



APRIL 20/00
NEW YORK, NY - BRASILIA RELEASE PARTY
club void. debut of 'monumental minimalism' and performance by panacea and 
taylor deupree


FEB 8/00
STARKVILLE, MISSISSIPI - 'SONIC CIRCUITS VII' mississippi state university.
screening of 'architettura' film 'enclosed nature' as well as toyo ito's 
tower of winds slide presentation set to music.


DEC 9-12 / 99
FLORENCE, ITALY - IMAGE / international festival for architecture in video. 
presentation of 'architettura' films


SEPT 29/00
LOS ANGELES, CA - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTURE
creening of 'architettura' films and lecture by iara lee.

JUNE 30 /99
NEW YORK, NY - MOMA NY
caipirinha musicians, taylor deupree, unit and datach'i play live at moma to 

Fw: [313] RE: Techno Lectures in Chicago

2000-06-23 Thread ocono

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 Hello 313,
 If anyone has any information on the upcoming techno lectures at the
 University of Chicago (re. Hawtin, Mills) Please post. This will be much
 appreciated.
 Thanks,
 Jimmy Jimmerino
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  Yeah,
 
  Some friends told me to check that one, but I haven't got the chance
yet.
 I
  don't think I will be able to find it anymore, but it should be good.
 
  I met Fannon on the DEMF and he seems like a pretty fun guy.
 
  Can somebody get me the e-mail adress of Aron Bennet? (Mister Lammers?:)
 He
  is a really nice guy and I need to get in touch with him concerning a
 friend
  of him who's going to organize seminars on techno in Chicago (or
something
  like that). Sounds interesting and I want to check whether he knows
about
  MuzikMachine: http://www.musikundmaschine.com/ .
 
  John
 
 
 
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  how about that Jay Denham VS Fannon Flowers.  eh, thats a pretty new
 release
  too.  i think it came out 2 or 3 months ago.  good stuff.
  jeff
 
 
 
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Re: [313] Detroit TechnoArt (Spaces)

2000-06-23 Thread synthetic detronik
Two spaces that come to immediate mind are the now defunkt Critical Space 
... Critical hosted numorous young,talented Detroit artists -both 
experimental and traditional- and DJs. SK-1 (tad mullinex-SP?) had a 
residency there and so did Jerry Abstrakt. Though the nights were never 
packed, it was still a very cool place to hang out,hear music and see 
art and meet the artists. Ghost 2000 showed alot of work there as well, 
his art is incredible if you haven't seen it. Though the people who laid 
down the influence, those who continue it should be recognized and given 
the correct forum to do so. The space was also host to one or two parties 
for MotorMouthMagazine.


Ohhh diana::.

You make me weep.  How I miss those days soo.  The memory lives on when you 
go to the corner of winder and orleans.  its all on the walls, the graffiti, 
the footsteps, the flyers, tristan getting held up by an AK-47, the girl 
getting her purse snatched, the many conversations that I had with the 
police to try and convince them nothing was going on...


I think we helped detroit, but the revolution of experimentation needs to go 
on.  perhaps its time to be reborn?


~signed ex critical creator

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visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion
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kraftwerk klaptrap

2000-06-23 Thread The [Quad]
... a bit of Q  A if you will ...

(ONE) An acquaintance claims the selections offered up on that Sonic Book CD 
... a short
introduction
to KRAFTWERK are simply lifted from some dirty ol' vinyl... ist dieses so?

(ITWO) The Senor Coconut El Baile Aleman experience gets a domestic release 
via Emperor Norton
Records, 102 Robinson Street, Los Angeles, CA 90026 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... cha 
cha cha.


sample and hold,
J.E. v.F-B. B. 
 
   
   


Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook

2000-06-23 Thread Phonopsia
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Subject: Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook


was there also... unfortunately, i sat on the right side of the auditorium,
right next to one of the surround speakers.  the best place to be was
directly in the middle, as carl was controlling the feeds sent to each
speaker and to get the full impact of the effect you needed to be in the
middle.

i forget who/what exactly was the inspiration, but if i remember correctly
it had to do with an installation that had been done over in europe
somewhere.  the installation featured different feeds going to speakers
placed within a venue, so that the listener created his own mix by moving
around the area.


That may be the West Sound Circle event. It was released on CD and mixed in
dolby surround sound. Had contributions from Async Sense, Sun Electric and
Holy Language featuring Dr. Motte circa 1995, distributed by EFA. These are
the liner notes:

On December 8, 1995, the west sound circle was installed in the legendary
e-werk in Berlin. This event marked a turning point in the evolution of the
clubbing experience. Through the use of state of the art quadrophonic sound
engineering, renowned DJs and live acts created for the first time ever a
rare multidimensional landscape of sound.

Highlights from th ewest sound circle have been remixed for this recording.
All tracks are produced for hi-fi systems...

Yada yada yada. Pretty cool CD, although my parents dolby surround didn't
quite do it justice. I bet it would be sweet in a movie theatre or an
equipped club.

Tristan
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Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art

2000-06-23 Thread Phonopsia
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Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno  Art


Scriabin had some really interesting ideas and for a while was trying to
create music that crossed the human senses. sounds that invoked a sense of
color rather than sound- i.e. controlled synesthesia.

Colors from sounds = Phonopsia. I couldn't resist. :)

Synesthesia does not specify a specific relationship between the senses,
other than their mixture, whereas phonopsia is the phenomenon we would all
be most interested in probably.

Tristan
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Re: [313] Re: Detroit records

2000-06-23 Thread Phonopsia
Rarest Detroit record:

A Mike Clark white label. I know nothing about whether or not it got a real
release. It has a track with an Another One Bites the Dust sample. That's
about all I know about it. Quite good though.

Favorite Detroit(ish) record:

Clark - Lofthouse - Planet E

Favorite Detroit(ish) track:

Clark - Clip

Least favorite record:

The four Josh Wink sperm records I got promotionally, each with a one-sided
four second spiral groove with a stupid noize on them. Waiting to find the
right object to smash these on...

How about this for a perfectly 313 oriented question: Favorite Mills track?
Or has this already been asked? Or is everyone tired of talking about Mills?
How about we call The Bells off limits, just for arguments sake.

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Re: [313] Re: UR Vote

2000-06-23 Thread Dave Clark
 This happens too often when I go down to Leeds on a
 Saturday. Some of the guys in there listen to the same
 tracks again and again!! I waited for half an hour
 before a turntable was free... I spose you don't think
 about anyone else tho once you put those headphones
 on... record stores are another world...


Aww, a whole 1/2 hour? :) When I go record shopping, I spend 4 or 
5 or 6 hours listening to records - I love my music, and want to be 
sure not to miss out on anything. I've listened to tracks more than 
once many times, because so many times in the past i've missed 
out on fantastic records due to perfunctory listens. It's up to the 
store to provide more than one turntable, that's just ridiculous.

Some of the best records don't reveal themselves on the first listen -
 for me (although I'm a bit weird like that), the Isolee 'Rest' album 
sounded bad on the first 3 listens, ok on the next 8 or 10 listens, 
and now I absolutely love it.  Does anyone else ever get this?

Deepness needs waiting.
Dave

  massive pile of vinyl, who listens to every single
  second of all the tracks
  and ends up buying one record. 

That is annoying, I'll admit. Some records I just flick through, when 
it's fairly obvious what sort of style they are.


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Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook

2000-06-23 Thread Intermodal
Hello,

This idea goes back a lot further, you would have to look into academic
electronic circles for the beginning of concept. Off hand, Edgard Varese
and Stockhausen both employed this concept in their installation work in
the 1950's. I am sure there were other using this concept in their
installation work during the early days of tape music. I would imagine
poly-channel sound goes back even further than the 1950's. I have a
collection of academic electronic music history books from the late
60's/early 70's, I will have a look through them tomorrow afternoon for
more info. Anything people are doing now in digital media is simply a
technological refinement of concepts people were carrying at least half
a century ago. 

Take care, 
Mike


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Re: [313] Re: Detroit records

2000-06-23 Thread Intermodal
 How about this for a perfectly 313 oriented question: Favorite Mills track?
 Or has this already been asked? Or is everyone tired of talking about Mills?
 How about we call The Bells off limits, just for arguments sake.

Spider Formation from Axis 9, It is one of the few Mills tracks that
hasnt lost its charm for me. 

Take care, 
Mike
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Re: kraftwerk klaptrap

2000-06-23 Thread Eric Iverson
 ... a bit of Q  A if you will ...
 
 (ONE) An acquaintance claims the selections offered up on that Sonic Book CD 
 ... a short
 introduction
 to KRAFTWERK are simply lifted from some dirty ol' vinyl... ist dieses so?

(in english: is this so?)

it's *much* worse than that! the tracks are not even kraftwerk!
it sounds like a bad attempt at faking kraftwerk. kw tunes
are covered, poorly, and kw samples are thrown in, but it 
doesn't sound like authentic kw--not by a longshot.

i *wish* it was a cd of real kw vinyl bootlegs, even a cd of 
commercial vinyl releases would at least be listenable.

--eric


Re: [313] Good Thread!!

2000-06-23 Thread Chris Tourgelis
I'm not sure what would be the rarest record(s) in my collection, but I was
pretty pleased with myself when I picked up Arthur Russel's World of Echo
LP and a sealed mint copy of Indian Ocean's Schoolbell/Treehouse 12 on
Sleeping Bag, both for a mere $5 au. :)

chris


Fw: Re: [313] Good Thread!!

2000-06-23 Thread c myster

Who made SID 7?

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S.I.D. 7 
UR
(Blue Label with neutron like balls surrounding UR,  Islamic moon in
corner) 
Side A: Radioactive Rhythms
Side B: Subversive Communications
A Thousand Questions

Two very rhythmic tracks, both good, until a wailing metallic gong-hat
melody ruins one for me.
B2 very lush, tribal, African drums and all.
Great sample on that one.
sit down please, there are several thousand qustions I'd like to ask
It's UR

Yeh---so yo kids feel the funk
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RE: [313] Re: Detroit Techno Art

2000-06-23 Thread Gwendal Cobert
 more a hip-hop artist than techno, but how about M.C. Escher? :)

 the question might be: which artist uses technology
 to create art? someone like Warhol?
Echer did not use technology to create his art ???

 how about sampling/collage or found objects?
 Duchamp and the surrealists?
you should check out the Tape Beatles...

 how about cars? that guy who makes sculptures out of old car
 bodies (whatshisname?)?
César - but maybe you have another one in mind

Gwendal



Re: [313] Good Thread!!

2000-06-23 Thread marsel


more about rare stuff


there's one (1!) copy around of delsin 05, 'service pack' by cim
where the label is mispressed, so half of it is over the grves.

as rare as u want

:)

At 23-6-00 -0700 01:39, you wrote:

From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [313] Good Thread!!

there are two copies in existance of delsin 10dsr/nwa1
which are cut at +3
one is circulating in london, the other in berlin
- talking about rare. .. .


I don't which speed my copy is at but the upcoming Newworldaquarium on 
Delsin is great. Extremely different and innovative - the nearest 
comparison is probably the Traktor stuff on Din crossed with Soundhack and 
some Vainqueur background atmospherics. I term it 'paranoid disco' :)


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Re: [313] Good Thread!!

2000-06-23 Thread Jochem_Peteri



-- Forwarded by Jochem Peteri/RUB/RSG on 23-06-2000 11:29
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marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23-06-2000 11:25:18

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Subject:  Re: [313] Good Thread!!



The saga continues...

My copy of Plasm nemonic is scratched in the rarest way..







more about rare stuff


there's one (1!) copy around of delsin 05, 'service pack' by cim
where the label is mispressed, so half of it is over the grves.

as rare as u want

:)

At 23-6-00 -0700 01:39, you wrote:
From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [313] Good Thread!!

there are two copies in existance of delsin 10dsr/nwa1
which are cut at +3
one is circulating in london, the other in berlin
- talking about rare. .. .

I don't which speed my copy is at but the upcoming Newworldaquarium on
Delsin is great. Extremely different and innovative - the nearest
comparison is probably the Traktor stuff on Din crossed with Soundhack and
some Vainqueur background atmospherics. I term it 'paranoid disco' :)

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Re: [313] Detroit Grand Trance-Bahs

2000-06-23 Thread Diana Potts
well if you want to get nit-ass picky, even calling this thread a take off 
of 'detroit grand pumbas' is incorrect.Just as *friendly* FYI Detroit Grand 
Pumbas are Andy Toth (Dr.Toefinger) and Mac/Paris the Black Fu.NOT just 
Paris.



Diana
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sandwich tonight -FaFa Monteco,Black Jack Records







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Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Grand Trance-Bahs
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:00:40 +0900

Are you sure? He is into a lot of European techno stuff; Hell's label, etc.

Maybe he was being satrical of it?


I really enjoyed Paris the Black Fools trance set this evening at the 
Temple

in Ferndale, MI (a little 'burb of Detroit).
Yes, Trance.
Of the hard variety.
Whatever pays the bills, right?

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DEMF Article

2000-06-23 Thread Roberto Ty
Club Planet ( http://www.clubplanet.com ) has now posted part two of the DEMF 
article we wrote. We also have posted the article, with a complete set of 
pictures, on our personal web page at htttp://members.home.net/tydesign7. Club 
Planet offered us an excellent opportunity to cover the event, but due to space 
constraints (re: download times) not all the photos we intended to go with the 
article could be included. That's why we have decided to included them on our 
site. We would like to thank Club Planet and encourage you to visit either 
locations. We will be including a DEMF photo page in the near future on our 
site, taken by us as well as others who have offered their submissions. 

We wrote the article with our beloved city and music in mind and hoped that we 
captured that Detroit flavor. Respect to tha' Big D! As always, we welcome any 
feedback.

Furthermore, thank you to all the organizers, vendors, performers, and fans 
that made the DEMF an unforgettable, dearly cherished and loved memory for us. 
We look forward to what the future holds.

Emily + Roberto
:-)


Re: MG-008 and SCD-013

2000-06-23 Thread jurren baars
yep, bought the new Moods and Grooves yesterday and i think it's really 
good, i also bought the new John Tejada on 7th City Significant numbers 
which is even better, the title track is one of the best tracks i've heard 
so far the last couple of months!
As for my favotite Mills' track: Casa from the purposemaker EP on AXIS, (i 
don't really care much for the bells to be honest)

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Re: [313] Detroit Grand Trance-Bahs

2000-06-23 Thread MikeD
This reminds me...   about 2 months ago i was at a party w/assault,
godfather, and shortstop and the trance dj that opened played a Sex on
the beach trance remix.

Whats the deal on this?   I'd only want to own it for novelty purposes but
it seems quite odd putting ghetto and trance together.

anyways
-mike



 I really enjoyed Paris the Black Fools trance set this evening at the Temple 
 in Ferndale, MI (a little 'burb of Detroit).
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Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art (Douglas)

2000-06-23 Thread David M. Sheridan
Hey, I wish I'd seen this Stan Douglas exhibit.

Those interested in a brief _Metro Times_ article and a smattering of
photographs should go to:

  http://209.69.221.136/20/15/Features/artDire.htm.

For a brief piece on Carl Craig's role, see Andrew Duke's

  http://techno.ca/cognition/npeoct29.htm.

Does anyone know if there's still a way to see Douglas' photos and film?

Thanks, Carissa, for mentioning this.

dms










This past fall a photographer named Stan Douglas had an exhibit at the Art
Gallery of Windsor entitled Le Detroit. It was basically a retrospective
of famous and not-so-famous ruins and abandoned buildings in Detroit.

The photographs were accompanied by a short black and white film taken in
the old train station, with a soundtrack done by Carl Craig...definitely
made me a bit misty-eyed.

Interestingly, it also coincided with a small exhibit of artwork by Matthew
Hawtin - very simple pieces of single colours and symmetrical lines, but the
square canvases were warped into odd shapes. Like alot of the music Matthew
(and sometimes his brother) plays, simple yet somehow just bit off...in a
good way, of course.

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For the Cause

2000-06-23 Thread David M. Sheridan
I am currently working on a dissertation about Detroit culture, including a
substantial look at Detroit Techno.  Unfortunately, being relatively new to
this music, I don't own many Detroit albums.  Is there any kind soul out
there who lives in the metro Detroit area and has a good record collection
who would let me hang out for an afternoon to look at the collection,
listen to some key tracks, take notes, ask questions, etc?

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Favorite D record / rarest record

2000-06-23 Thread Jim Grindle
rare records/lps: 
Kiss Originals with all inserts
Ianis Xanakis full length don't remember name as it's in French and the
cover is strange it's made of some textured shiny silver metallic stuff
Marvin Gaye Trouble Man OST
the songs of Marilyn Monroe

Favorite D records
all of the Stooges which I just purchased this week!!
all my Parliament, Parlet, Funkadelic
 @ Westbound releases
My Motown 7  collection
the plus 8 probe definitive  catalogue
X-ray Lets Go original @ Fantasy
The early Metroplex  Transmat releases
Hood  Mills / Drama( all ) nuff for now
enjoying the art thread 
always have these discussions with the artists it is nice to see it
resonates all the way to the listeners, buyers, producers, and future
artists of this genre  
Grindle - out


Re: [313] Detroit Grand Trance-Bahs

2000-06-23 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I interviewed Paris the other week (the track is coming out here locally,
very exciting) and from memory he said he didn't like trance at all but
likes to play a lot of European techno these days and it was all cool stuff
he cited, nothing trancey at all. He is a lovely guy with a fun sense of
humour. I will have to play the tape back in the next few days.

Cheers

Cyclone


well if you want to get nit-ass picky, even calling this thread a take off 
of 'detroit grand pumbas' is incorrect.Just as *friendly* FYI Detroit Grand 
Pumbas are Andy Toth (Dr.Toefinger) and Mac/Paris the Black Fu.NOT just 
Paris.


Diana
sexyness to the left of you,sexyness to the right-its all about the pimp 
sandwich tonight -FaFa Monteco,Black Jack Records



RE: [313] mills records

2000-06-23 Thread Scott MacInnis
1) Tephra / X-103 (B1)
2) Force Universal (don't remeber track names, but it's the outside track on
the b-side)
3) Axis 16 / Very EP the ambient track (again, as far as track names go, I
should pay more attention)

Sorry, but I love mills and there is never only one favorite track.  Ask me
tomorrow and it will be 'if' (depending on the size of the hangover)

Scott


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 Humana Axis 12

 that's my favorite Mills record to date


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Spelling Bee (Was Detroit Grand Trance-Bahs)

2000-06-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 well if you want to get nit-ass picky, even calling this thread a take off
 of 'detroit grand pumbas' is incorrect.

Better nip this in the bud.

Detroit Grand Pubahs,  P - U - B - A - H - S

Richie Hawtin,  R - I - C - H - I - E

Rhythim is Rhythim,  R - H - Y - T - H - I - M

Feel free to add to the list.

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favourite Mills trk

2000-06-23 Thread Jochem_Peteri


Must the Final cut-Open your eyes or burn baby burn. Whole album is incredible
anyway.




Art et al

2000-06-23 Thread Oliver Barkovic
Hello, I don't know who mentioned the state sanctioning of Malevich by the 
Russian propagandists but I think that Constructivism is most directly 
relatable to Techno.  Artists like Malevich, Rodchenko, Lissitzky and 
Gontcharova(Rodchenko's wife) were multi-media artists and graphic designers 
who were very minimal and direct in their art. Isn't that what techno is 
about?  Constucting direct music with minimal means.


I saw huge exhibits of Rodchenko and Bonnard at the MOMA and Rothko at The 
Whitney in the same day in NYC 2 years ago!!


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Scratch

2000-06-23 Thread Gwendal Cobert
I know it is a bit OT, but since there are some DJs on the list... I have
just discovered that when you're listening to MP3s using the Windows Media
Player, you can use any scrollbar to scratch on the song, like you would
do on a vinyl...
OK, I know it is not a big deal, but after all it's the week-end !
Gwendal



Mills

2000-06-23 Thread Roger John Lesinski Jr

My favorite Jeff Mills track is the Extremist on Tresor Records(Tresor #51 ?)
I think it is the original version that is my favorite, though I have
not played it in a while.  Roger

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Detroit Records

2000-06-23 Thread Roger John Lesinski Jr
As far as rare records I own, I have an old Blake Baxter record on Incognito
records from about 1989.  I also have a Chesire #2 record, for all the people
around Detroit who know what Chesire was.  I saw a blue vinyl Chesire #? at the
store once but didnt pick it up.  Also Jeff Mills 9A and 9B but around here
they are not that rare. I have an accelerate #001 record that I was it was rare
but am not sure.  I also have a 1 sided Probe record, track X or something.
I dont know how rare these are but I dont think they are
exactly stellar records song wise.  As far as records that I am into now, I
really like the USER, ABUSER stuff.  Roger

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Re: [313] Mills

2000-06-23 Thread Todd Smith
Much lower actually..Tresor 23  I'm an Axis 9b fan.  Currently don't have the
record, but I love it when people play it.  Anyone got some hidden that they 
want
to part with?
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 I think it is the original version that is my favorite, though I have
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Re: [313] Good Thread!!

2000-06-23 Thread James Bucknell


a selection of my rarest:
test pressing of ron trent's altered states on gherkin records
the record on which 'in the beginning jack had a groove' first appeared (before
it was laid on top of 'can you feel it' on trax.





Re: [313] Spelling Bee (Was Detroit Grand Trance-Bahs)

2000-06-23 Thread Nick Walsh
Are you sure? I'm sure it says Rhythim Is Rhythim on
my Transmat 12s... 

l8r,
Nick (Dj Pacific:)


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Re: [313] Good Thread!!

2000-06-23 Thread Joris Vermeiren
Now you made me jealous. I have World of Echo (this might be my
favourite record ever) and last year found an apparently repressed copy
of 24-7 Music but I've been looking for Indian Ocean forever without
success. Wasn't this released on Rough Trade too? Is anybody here
familiar with Russel's serious work? I've heard there's an album on
Chatham Square (Tower of Meaning?) and an lp called Instrumentals on Les
Disques du Crépuscule. Anyone interested in discussing records you know
you will never find but are sure you would love?

Joris

 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:30:46 +1000
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 I'm not sure what would be the rarest record(s) in my collection, but I was
 pretty pleased with myself when I picked up Arthur Russel's World of Echo
 LP and a sealed mint copy of Indian Ocean's Schoolbell/Treehouse 12 on
 Sleeping Bag, both for a mere $5 au. :)
 
 chris



Re: [313] Scratch

2000-06-23 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
Which version of Media Player?  I tried it and all it does is skip back a
half second or so

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 I know it is a bit OT, but since there are some DJs on the list... I have
 just discovered that when you're listening to MP3s using the Windows Media
 Player, you can use any scrollbar to scratch on the song, like you would
 do on a vinyl...
 OK, I know it is not a big deal, but after all it's the week-end !
 Gwendal




RE: [313] Good Thread!!

2000-06-23 Thread John Bush
 Is anybody here familiar
 with Russel's serious work?

It's not quite serious work, but there's a compilation on Polygram called
Another Thought that's still in print.  It's not really classical *or*
electronic, closer to pop than anything else, but still so screwed up that
most anyone can get into it.  I think it was compiled from tapes he left
after his death...

.John.




new monolake

2000-06-23 Thread circonium
a new monolake record has just been released... 
it's on their ml/i label, mli-005. 

i think the track titles ice / stratosphere 
describe the music very well. typical monolake 
programming, clear sounds, quite spacey. 
oh, and it comes on clear vinyl :)

brilliant release, highly recommended. 

there is some info and real audio clips on the 
monolake web site
http://www.monolake.de/stratosfer.html


ines

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Re: [313] Detroit Grand Trance-Bahs

2000-06-23 Thread Hugh G. Blaze
If you wouldn't call trance records trance that says more about you and your 
knowledge of dance music than anything else. He did cross over into some 
hard tech but a good portion of his set was T-R-A-N-C-E.




I would never call paris's set trance.




Cyclone Wehner wrote:

 Are you sure? He is into a lot of European techno stuff; Hell's label, 
etc.


 Maybe he was being satrical of it?

 I really enjoyed Paris the Black Fools trance set this evening at the 
Temple

 in Ferndale, MI (a little 'burb of Detroit).
 Yes, Trance.
 Of the hard variety.
 Whatever pays the bills, right?

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BT Basher Mix CD Release

2000-06-23 Thread dj trademark

Hey,
I've just finished listening to the latest mix CD from BT Basher (Rotate, 
Windsor)and have got to say that it is wicked! Very nice minimal, funky and 
just flat out raw.  For those of you on the Brinkman/Basic Channel vibe this 
CD is right up your alley.  The CD release party was last night at the 
Amsterdam Lounge (in Windsor).  CD's are available at the Amsterdam and 
potentially directly from him.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


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Sequencers and Music

2000-06-23 Thread Jorge Velez

Hey, folks.

Just came across this person's college paper
on sequencers and their use/effect on
music composition. Looks great.
For the geeks like me who drool over
this sorta thing (I need to get out more),
it's at

http://www.dan98.demon.co.uk/textdoc.htm


peace and have a great weekend,

Jorge

PS. I downloaded a D.May set offa Macster last night Live at FUSE
March 1999 Part 1 anyone know where this was, and does anyone
have access to Part II? Part I is definitely bumpin' (sounds taken right off 
the mixer).


 
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[dec]

2000-06-23 Thread marsel

planet e
UPCOMING RELEASES
September 5, 2000 IBEX (aka Tony Ollivierra). Bok Choy/Oasis 12



rotator?

2000-06-23 Thread Peter B Leidy
anybody know whatever happened to dj rotator - the wacky detroit
experimental jungle dj- havent seen his name anywhere in at least a year-
but before that he was doin crazy dj stunts when he was playing out.. 

-p



Re: [313] rotator?

2000-06-23 Thread Hugh G. Blaze
He had some pretty severe perosnal problems. I don't know if he's okay or 
not. He played at a party I threw in, uh, I believe 1996. It was also one of 
the early appearances of a Mr. Derek Plaslaiko, if I'm not mistaken. (though 
not the first. take it easy, Derek)




anybody know whatever happened to dj rotator - the wacky detroit
experimental jungle dj- havent seen his name anywhere in at least a year-
but before that he was doin crazy dj stunts when he was playing out..

-p


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Re: [313] Favorite D record / rarest record

2000-06-23 Thread ea rinon

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X-ray Lets Go original @ Fantasy


the Fantasy release was a remix of the transmat release and came
after!still a good thing to have, it is lot nicer then the original imo
(which you still need to have for the unnamed third track,that is not on the
Fantasy rlse) and is better pressed then the Transmat record
btw does it say Promotional coppy? all the ones i ever seen has that
on them ?


e,r





Re: [313] SNF vs TGIF was FW: Groove

2000-06-23 Thread ea rinon

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Haven't seen it yet, but viewing the trailer evoked the same kind of
TGIF/Saturday Night Fever vibe as well ... actually SNF was a much
better film than TGIF 


that's a joke right ?
on the music side SNF is hardly even disco,some good funk(boogie
shoo) and pop(B G's,i only consider Should be dancing disco)
on TGIF you had the whole Casablanca roster doing stuff there
(some of the best music in the film was not on the soundtrack
Morodor-from here into eternity,Constandinos - RomeoJuliet etc)
Also the soundtrack came out(for collectors) on a seperate 10 x 12
how's that for a disco concept? :)
in the actual movie you had ppl from the disco culture , not just
Donna Summer but :Comodors,Cameo,Thelma Huston,Paul Jabara
etc,who did you have in SNF a Carol Douglas poster from 50 meters
blah
i don't wanna get into things like plot,social context etc,as it all about
personal taste,but 2 points that realy stand out are:
in TGIF you have LOTS of shots inside the dj booth,he's playing 12
(some you migh even recognize,and it's not the ones you hear,lough)
also drugs!the nurse character with the red hair,that was taking the
pils,(green for up red for down)yes disco was associated with drugs but
mainly coke,here you had a look into the future xtc culture,back in the 80's
(78???), not to mention all the joints bein passed (lough)
charachters like the Leathermendance his way thru life thats deep!:)
anyway with the BGS coming from Brisbane were i live i'm defintly
not biased,TGIF is the best disco movie!even if you compare it with
more recent ones like Studio 54 etc


e,r





the appeals of repetition...

2000-06-23 Thread jesse henning
I am presently working on some psych-socio theory on repetition in music and 
why its an attractor to some, and an utter bore to others.  I was wondering 
if there is already some theory, be it music theory and/or psycho-social 
theory, in which asks and solves this question...


What I am avoiding is the usual answer of its in your heart..., ect.  I 
feel that there is a more concrete explination to this appeal, we as 
arttists tend to be dramatic and vague, i wish to define...


I wont get into it now, but I am working on a approach that deals with 
personality typing (introversion/extroversion, ect.)...


this is research for possible academic publication...

thank you,

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Re: [313] the appeals of repetition...

2000-06-23 Thread FRED MCMURRY
Can you tie it in with trance states induced by music in such religions as 
Voodoo or with Native American dance and shamanism? Also look at societies 
such as the South Pacific Islands and the similarities in the tribal techno 
music from Sweden (the drumming rhythms are freaky similar). I don't know if 
there are any similarities in the communities in those societies and those 
within the electronic music realm. (I think there is but don't know what it 
is...need for tribalistic association? Though I doubt that that would draw 
people specifically to repetative music because there's groups like this who 
used to follow the Grateful Dead and their music wasn't exactly repetative.)


Fred



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Subject: [313] the appeals of repetition...
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:41:21 PDT

I am presently working on some psych-socio theory on repetition in music 
and

why its an attractor to some, and an utter bore to others.  I was wondering
if there is already some theory, be it music theory and/or psycho-social
theory, in which asks and solves this question...

What I am avoiding is the usual answer of its in your heart..., ect.  I
feel that there is a more concrete explination to this appeal, we as
arttists tend to be dramatic and vague, i wish to define...

I wont get into it now, but I am working on a approach that deals with
personality typing (introversion/extroversion, ect.)...

this is research for possible academic publication...

thank you,

darw_n

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