Re: [313] Back On Topic Please!
In a message dated 03/10/00 22:54:31 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey now, Carl Cocks is where I draw the line, bro. Carl is one of very few who can cater to many audiences. His sets can vary from progressive clubby house all the way to banging techno. This is very true, I've heard him play techno sets that would make the best of the best drool. He's got all the right records, and he's definately got the skills, I've heard him play proper techno sets a few times, 3 decks on the go every time, and each time he's been totally flawless all the way through. You just have to catch him at a techno club, if you go see him at a house club, he's guaranteed to be cheesy. He's got a night in London, or at least he did - Ultimate B.A.S.E, Jim Masters is the other resident and also very good, and they get in some really good guests as well. Aaron
Re: [313] Detroit/Software music
MSP is used by Twerk, Kit Clayton ,Suketh and i think Stewart S Walker does now too. in fact i think kit programs for cycling u can see twerk playing live at www.groovetech.com under the SF section and there a KitClayton live show on http://www.boombox.net both use powerbooks and Peavy midi controls. Only thing about MAX/MSP is that its MAC only for pc users try Reaktor, Audio Mulch and Granulab Whilse on the subject of computers wondering how many Detroit artists use computer to such an extent? like in the early days they used 909s 303s etc cos they were cheap now computer systems are prob cheaper than what there charging for analog gear there is tons of free software on the web too. Hopefully the kids in detroit will be able to get access to compters and continue the great music the city has made for many many years - Original Message - From: richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [313] BT / Software music That site has to be the funniest thing i've seen in a long time. Very unique presentation! I loved it. I downlaoded the demo of the M software to check out. Looks like a pretty cool program. Ryan Heard wrote: Naa.. it's Max/MSP... even says so on their site. www.cycling74.com Ryan Heard -Original Message- From: richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] BT / Software music I read an article in Wire about monolake a long time ago where they say that they use a program for the Mac called Minimal Structure. I did a bunch of searches for it at the time but couldn't find it anywhere. Does anyone know anything about this program? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To listen to my latest songs go to: http://www.mp3.com/dickrichards Also check out the station orgone accumulator for minimal techno and ambient pieces. http://www.mp3.com/stations/orgone_accumulator - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hard house?
since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle
Re: [313] mills silliness
jeff sometimes has records in the small of his back/in his pants, under his arms, between his legs... At 8:25 PM +0200 10/3/00, peter mueller wrote: well, i think the only reason for doing so is due to the speed of mixing. it saves a lot of time (but obviously not good for the records).
plus8 in detroit
does anyone have any info on how to obtain tickets for from our minds to yours in detroit? troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] hard house?
-Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:59 PM Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle The consensus a few months ago was that both terms exist, and maybe more than that. Truth is, nobody knows what it is, and everyone thinks they do. I think it's Relief vs. Cajual, for instance. Think Lester Fitzpatrick of faster Paul Johnson without the ghetto samples. My favorite hard house song as I understand the term is DJ Elin's Mad Cow. It's kinda like saying hard techno to someone, but probably even more confusing. It could mean a lot of things depending on where you are and what you know. Hard House is definitely confusing though... when in doubt, remember, it's just a label. When that label becomes so confusing that there is no consensus on what it means, you may want to chose another way to describe what you're talking about, or qualify what you're saying. Tristan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] PUNISH
Anyone have a link to punish's website? do they even have one? I need the dominatrix track, but I need to find out the volume #. mike d. that would be Punish #4, but all the Punish records have an SM theme, I just picked up number #9, it's off the chain!!! not as compressed as the usual Glenn Wilson/Mike Humphries stuff... Punish's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] no website though, try getting Glenn through Planet Rhythm... ___ s t r a y _ d j s e v e n o n e t h r e e t e k ~ x u p p o r t http://www.713tekno.net _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
[313] Surgeon tone-shifting
In a message dated 28/09/00 4:01:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember in Modulations, when I think Saunderson said that techno was the only way out, the only escape of such a desolate city? Well, everyone usually feels trapped somehow in some manner (if not, your probably an artist!! LOL!!), and techno was created to alleviate that feeling of being ultimately controlled... I also think that tonshifts have something to do with tribalism, and the creation of very mystical moments, for the repetition of the tribal dance sounds strange and powerful to them, and being primitive, their only option is a God who creates these magical sounds... I believe this tone-shift theory is just another way of interpreting the interaction between ecstasy and repetitive music - the actual 'trance' that techno music embodies itself through its tribal origins. This 'mystical experience' whether or not through extraneous assistance is central to the mind releasing itself into the 'singularity' that can be translated into this 'vibe' that is talked about. Personally I have felt this through the process of extensive listening to minimal techno music. The essence is within the rhythm, the key is in the dance - Its liberating and often addictive. That's why we love the music and this dance that transcends our perception. A_Zed
Re: [313] mills silliness
i was there too, but didnt see any barrel. however i have heard from some people that he is known for dropping aq track then tossing it over his shoulder. i thought it was for entertainment purposes...maybe not. must be nice to have such an extensive record collection. Mills only keeps around 300 records, apparently. The rest he chucks away (literally, obviously!). I've seen him do this tossing over his shoulder stuff as well, and I doubt they are worth keeping anyway after such treatment. Jonny.
RE: [313] mills silliness
Marco Carola also throws his records in a big heap on the floor. -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 02:44 To: 'David Gillies' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] mills silliness I saw juan atkins do something close to that too...he would take the records out of the sleeves and play them and then toss them on the floor in a pile...2 piles actually. one for the sleeves and one for the vinyl...i wish i had all those records so that i didn't have to take care of my either...it could have been because he was really stoned... jeff -Original Message- From:David Gillies [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:30 AM To: John Shipman; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] mills silliness The closest I've seen to this is when I saw DJ Krush a couple of years back. On the stage that he was playing on, he had a pretty darn large pile, no heap, of records, out of their covers, just thrown there in a big heap. He would rummage through them to find what he wanted, and when he was finished playing them, he would just throw them back onto to the floor. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] hard house?
I personally have only heard the term used to describe the uk high nrg sound you mention. -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 03:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tone shifting
I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't occur only while listening to music, whether it be minimal techno or tribal beats. It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! later, fab || Web Developer || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || www.deepend.it || If we never looked at things and thought what they might be, we'd still be in the tall grass with the apes. Deepend Roma s.r.l. Via C.A. Racchia, 4 - 00195 Roma - ITALY T +39 06 37 51 23 58 F +39 06 37 51 23 26
RE: [313] hard house?
Indeed it seems that there is a difference between the US approach of Hard House. Here in Europe Hard House is fast uptempo cheesy trance-like music, not really a 313 topic at all. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally have only heard the term used to describe the uk high nrg sound you mention. -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 03:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Photek:Solaris
I bought the new Photek album today, and for those of you who didn't heard this already: it's brilliant. The best track and threason to buy this album is this colaboration of Photek and Robert Owens on a House groove. Most of the tracks aren't so DB at all, more on a house veign. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Tone shifting
In a message dated 10/4/00 4:43:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't occur only while listening to music, whether it be minimal techno or tribal beats. It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! yeah or listening to techno while sitting at the front of the train watching the lights in the tunnel go by or even the city if it is elevated...techno and motion...what a combo! G l y p h
Re: [313] Tone shifting
In a message dated 04/10/00 10:43:27 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't occur only while listening to music, whether it be minimal techno or tribal beats. It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! I once saw this list called you know your a raver when... and it then listed 101 reasons you could tell your a raver. Well, some people might be offended to be called ravers, I for one dont generally call myself one, but for some of these reasons you could easily replace raver with techno freak or something along those lines. Anyway, amongst others, there was one that said you know you're a raver/techno freak when you find yourself nodding your head to the tribal sounds of a washing machine. Maybe this isn't toneshifting as discussed on the list, but its definately a case of a bored mind projecting music onto something which isn't necessarily musical, and I find it to be quite true. Sort of like working in factory's, many times have I considered taking my MD recorder to work with me to try and capture the seemingly musical hum and machine noise that is the background noise of a busy factory. Aaron
RE: [313] hard house?
it depends on what country you are in...perfect example of hard house in the US is Bad Boy Bill...progressive and trance would be UK hard House...just to make it easy jeff -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some vinyl on ebay, mostly detroit(ish)
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R: [313] Tone shifting
You know your'e a (broke) raver when you go dance in contruction sites LOL - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Tone shifting In a message dated 04/10/00 10:43:27 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't occur only while listening to music, whether it be minimal techno or tribal beats. It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! I once saw this list called you know your a raver when... and it then listed 101 reasons you could tell your a raver. Well, some people might be offended to be called ravers, I for one dont generally call myself one, but for some of these reasons you could easily replace raver with techno freak or something along those lines. Anyway, amongst others, there was one that said you know you're a raver/techno freak when you find yourself nodding your head to the tribal sounds of a washing machine. Maybe this isn't toneshifting as discussed on the list, but its definately a case of a bored mind projecting music onto something which isn't necessarily musical, and I find it to be quite true. Sort of like working in factory's, many times have I considered taking my MD recorder to work with me to try and capture the seemingly musical hum and machine noise that is the background noise of a busy factory. Aaron
found sound
I considered taking my MD recorder to work with me to try and capture the seemingly musical hum and machine noise that is the background noise of a busy factory. Aaron That ain't tone shifting -- that's found sound.. ..And that's about as original as you can get. :] Steve
RE: [313] hard house?
So If an American asks me if I like Hard House, instead of looking at him in disgust (whick is what I would normally do being from uk and knowing only UK hard house), I will simply say I have never heard it. -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 15:41 To: 'Kyle J Dupuy' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] hard house? it depends on what country you are in...perfect example of hard house in the US is Bad Boy Bill...progressive and trance would be UK hard House...just to make it easy jeff -Original Message- From:Kyle J Dupuy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] hard house?
That's what happened to me, when I picked up a Hard-House Tape in the UK expecting to find dark sinister house bordering on Techno and ending up with a tape mixed by Tony De Vit (RIP). Totally disgusted. JayCee -Original Message- From: Lawton David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:49 PM To: 'FC3 Richards'; 'Kyle J Dupuy' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject:RE: [313] hard house? So If an American asks me if I like Hard House, instead of looking at him in disgust (whick is what I would normally do being from uk and knowing only UK hard house), I will simply say I have never heard it. -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 15:41 To: 'Kyle J Dupuy' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] hard house? it depends on what country you are in...perfect example of hard house in the US is Bad Boy Bill...progressive and trance would be UK hard House...just to make it easy jeff -Original Message- From:Kyle J Dupuy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] regis vs. female
just to clear things... regis - karl o'connor female - pete sutton both work at and run integrale musique distribution in birmingham, uk dean cole also works there. these are 3 different people any/all of above could be user but we're not saying - Original Message - From: viagratek . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: [313] regis vs. female my friends booked regis and female for a show down here last october. due to technical difficulties...only regis got to perform but they said both karl and pete were there and i did see two british guys behind the mixer. as for either of them being richard harvey, thats still up in the air but from what i saw regis and female are two different people -v _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] digweed
Dunno about digweed but a Sasha CD of him in Ibiza found its way into the office and it was pretty good. Nice driving tracks, not too insipid, and to be honest, if I was in Ibiza I'm not too sure I'd really want to be beaten over the head with hard bangin' techno all night, and I'm sure he's playing Jaguar so there. Tosh
Re: [313] Mo' Moby
Name the famous 313 alumni who toured with Moby AND The Prodigy. Personally I'd rather listen to Moby than Kid Rock. Tosh
Re: [313] Endow
yep. Endow is Dave Whiteside, who runs the Dow label out of Detroit ea rinon wrote: From: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Question: I picked up a white label a few weeks ago with DW 009 etched on the insidewould it be a Downwards release? no it's the(excelent) Endow ep on dow recds e,r - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9
Re: [313] mills silliness
Mills only keeps around 300 records, apparently. The rest he chucks away When Dan Curtain had his office here in Cleveland, he was throwing away about 5 crates of plates, I immediately freaked out and took them all... He couldn't understand why I was so into them... weird darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com
Re: [313] hard house?
I used to play some hard house in 04-95. I referred to it as NY Hard house because every producer was from there. Old DJ Duke, Van Helton. I also considered old Laid Bake Luke and crew to fit in there... You know, really really basic boring house with a distorted kick drum, but a little different than all this tracky crap coming out now... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Lawton David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:22 AM Subject: RE: [313] hard house? I personally have only heard the term used to describe the uk high nrg sound you mention. -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 03:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9/27/2k Inaudible Radio/Webcast Setlist...
9/27/2k Inaudible Radio/Webcast Setlist... 9-10 pm by lance... . Farben: warschawjanka (Sprawl Imprint) . Tomas Jirku: variants #3 (Alien8) . Vladislav Delay: kohde (Sigma Editions) . Pub: summer/nick rapaccioli remix (Vertical Form) . Dot Wiggin: a2 (AudiSensa) . Various Artists: no 8 (Fat Cat) . Donnacha Costello: IBP (Force Inc) . Bluetrain: version blue d2 (Bluetrain) . Exos: sovereignty (Force Inc) . Various Artists: no 3/debit (Chain Reaction) . Sutekh: periods make sense #3 (Force Inc) . Kid606: sometimes (Mille Plateaux) . Ekmoah: c-plastica (Background) . Sistol: nuomo (Phthalo) . Vladislav Delay: kohde (Sigma Editions) 10-11 pm by john c... . Process: floe remix (Traum) . T. Raumschmiere: bolz platz b2 (Kompakt) . Sascha Funke: luftschloss (Bpitch Control) . Blacklight: spending time/dark mix (Intrinsic Design) . Rob Alcock Gillard: nature/max duley artform mix (Continual) . Submeditation: mirror of this (Choke) . Submode: ligero (Federation of Drums) . Kwass: against the grain a1 (Modular Music Channel) . Rumenige: numb 06-a2 (Numb) . Dave Maxim: mathmatiual breakfast (Harthouse) . John Occlusion: use your instinct (Planet Vision) Thanks to everyone who tuned in. See you next week same time url or place on the dial. ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
Inaudible Reminder...
Just a quick note to remind you of tonight's Inaudible Radio/Webcast which will be broadcasting this evening from 9-11 pm Eastern Standard Time. To listen over the internet visit http://www.wcsb.org at 9 pm and click on the Click here for Audioactive Feed link. If you are in the Cleveland area you can tune in by setting your radio to 89.3 fm. Hope you'll all tune in! ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
Kalkson recs. website?
Anyone know if klakson reords have a website? thanks fab || Web Developer || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || www.deepend.it || If we never looked at things and thought what they might be, we'd still be in the tall grass with the apes. Deepend Roma s.r.l. Via C.A. Racchia, 4 - 00195 Roma - ITALY T +39 06 37 51 23 58 F +39 06 37 51 23 26
Re: [313] hard house?
then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. I'm just wondering if the record label HartHouse wasn't in some way responsible (intentionally or not) for the common use of hard house to describe trance in Europe. Or have I taken too much cold medicine? -- There4IM
DEMF pics
Hi, If you feel a bit nostalgic about the DEMF, feel free to hop over to http://technotourist.org/demf I finally uploaded some of the pictures i took during the festival and i also included the review Klaas-Jan wrote. Cheers, Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/
Re: [313] Tone shifting
ever tried chilling to a coffee percolator? i used to spend my mornings up at biostation, relaxing to the sweet sounds of our large coffee percolator. -m On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, fab137 wrote: I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't occur only while listening to music, whether it be minimal techno or tribal beats. It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! later, fab || Web Developer || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || www.deepend.it || If we never looked at things and thought what they might be, we'd still be in the tall grass with the apes. Deepend Roma s.r.l. Via C.A. Racchia, 4 - 00195 Roma - ITALY T +39 06 37 51 23 58 F +39 06 37 51 23 26 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: new Seventh City releases
Jason B wrote: Anyone know who produced 7th City 14 16? I just noticed them both listed as white labels. ***The word from Daniel Bell: SCD014 Shawn Rudiman Untitled - this promo will is extremely limited - will be released with a different A -side SCD015 Anthony Shakir Flyswatter SCD016 Jeff Samuel NewJoob Also at the end of November: ELVSP3 Elevate Special Projects Broken Jazz (Limited Pressing) the third and final installment of the Elevate Special Project series Hope this helps. Andrew Duke :) -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9
RE: [313] DEMF pics
If you feel a bit nostalgic about the DEMF, feel free to hop over to http://technotourist.org/demf I finally uploaded some of the pictures i took during the festival and i also included the review Klaas-Jan wrote. Disclamer: I am not responsable for any health problems after looking at the last picture on this site. NO actual TechnoTourists where hearth during to shooting of these pictures. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Tribute To Ken Collier EP feat. Love's Got Me High REMIX
Attention all retail stores and distributors throughout the world. The classic highly sought after release of the TRIBUTE EP is now available. To order please contact: Watts Music, INC 500 Ocean Avenue, East Rockaway, NY. 11518 Phone: +1.516.596.9771 Fax: +1.516.596.9881 Peace Respect, Terrence (TP) Parker
Re: [313] Back On Topic Please!
I was only kidding... jeez... Don't p*ss yer britches... Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/3/00 8:48:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dickweed This is what he should be called anyhow... A bit like Judge (family) Jewels and Carl Cocks Nick(Dj Pacific:) Hey now, Carl Cocks is where I draw the line, bro. Carl is one of very few who can cater to many audiences. His sets can vary from progressive clubby house all the way to banging techno. It is he who drove the crowd mad at MotorDetroit this past spring (I think it was), who kicked a** at the Tresor club in Berlin to another capacity crowd during Love Parade weekend...not to mention Love Parade itself to a tune of 2.5 million people. Those Germans do NOT play around, they know good music. He's a nice, witty guy and every time I've heard him play, he's never let me down. And besides, at least he's out there doing something. G l y p h __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: 313 names for pets.
around the kitchen (upstairs); note to those snickering: I wanted to call the dog Kano (well, actually, wanted to call it Mantronik, but a dog should have a two-syllable name; Parrish (after Man) was misinterpreted by friends as Perish (and thus gory), Cybotron, Kraftwerk, and Atkins didn't work, Saunderson had too many syllables, etc, so it's now Karma (good Karma, bad We had this dilemma with our kitten. Would it be Miles (too moody), Coltrane (too, um, damn good), Herbie (suggests ginger to me for some reason)? We decided on Fela, only to find out he was a she...we ended up with Minnie (after Minnie Riperton - we were listening to a lot of Charles Stepney). A friend called her pair of kittens Mills (moody and shy) and Sneak (ginger and FAT)! That's pretty good, I reckon. Jonny.
RE: [313] Re: 313 names for pets.
Well I've named my Cat Axis. Well to be honest my wife called her that without knowing that that was a D-Techno Label. But hey I didn't object. JayCee -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 4:46 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] Re: 313 names for pets. around the kitchen (upstairs); note to those snickering: I wanted to call the dog Kano (well, actually, wanted to call it Mantronik, but a dog should have a two-syllable name; Parrish (after Man) was misinterpreted by friends as Perish (and thus gory), Cybotron, Kraftwerk, and Atkins didn't work, Saunderson had too many syllables, etc, so it's now Karma (good Karma, bad We had this dilemma with our kitten. Would it be Miles (too moody), Coltrane (too, um, damn good), Herbie (suggests ginger to me for some reason)? We decided on Fela, only to find out he was a she...we ended up with Minnie (after Minnie Riperton - we were listening to a lot of Charles Stepney). A friend called her pair of kittens Mills (moody and shy) and Sneak (ginger and FAT)! That's pretty good, I reckon. Jonny. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] hard house?
Hard house used to be kind of underground house meets techno meets progressive and yes very dark. For an example of what Hard House used to be, check Flying Rhino records and artists like Venom and Bus. However, hard house has recently become a word used for what was previously known as NuNRG 'cept it's slightly more commercial (Nukleuz Records). This is one of the reasons why I stopped playing goa and hard house. I was only really looking for detroit anyway, but I want to try everything at least once:) l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Kyle J Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] hard house?
Wow where have I been? I'm such an ignorant yankee. Indeed it seems that there is a difference between the US approach of Hard House. Here in Europe Hard House is fast uptempo cheesy trance-like music, not really a 313 topic at all. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally have only heard the term used to describe the uk high nrg sound you mention. -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 03:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Tone shifting
My mum reckons that when I play the Sonic EP in my bedroom it sounds like a foundry downstairs:) NO kidding!!! l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 04/10/00 10:43:27 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't occur only while listening to music, whether it be minimal techno or tribal beats. It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! I once saw this list called you know your a raver when... and it then listed 101 reasons you could tell your a raver. Well, some people might be offended to be called ravers, I for one dont generally call myself one, but for some of these reasons you could easily replace raver with techno freak or something along those lines. Anyway, amongst others, there was one that said you know you're a raver/techno freak when you find yourself nodding your head to the tribal sounds of a washing machine. Maybe this isn't toneshifting as discussed on the list, but its definately a case of a bored mind projecting music onto something which isn't necessarily musical, and I find it to be quite true. Sort of like working in factory's, many times have I considered taking my MD recorder to work with me to try and capture the seemingly musical hum and machine noise that is the background noise of a busy factory. Aaron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] re: new Seventh City releases and personal plug
For those interesed in hearing Shawn's new record. Go to www.wrct.org between 7pm and 9pm (EST), on thursday night. The radio show is called the space groove with DJ Plastique. I'll be down for the show, so I'll drop every single cut off of the record. My personal favorite on this release is Pixie's groove. Or if you are in the pittsburgh area. You can come to Groove on Friday night. Where it will be Shawn Rudiman Vs. Jwan, we will be performing a live pa/dj set. This is going to sound bad but I have no idea who else is playing that night with us. But if yo can't stand Shawn or myself;) Kenny Glasgow is in town on friday night as well. Friday will be a good night for techno here in Pittsburgh. For those people that I promised I love Techno (bumperstickers/flyers) (merrick, dj oracle,andrew, etc). I'm sending them out as quickly as possible. Keep and eye out for them at bent crayon, record time, and sonic groove. Grab them quick because we didn't print to many, and they have been going like hotcakes around here. People have actually had them stolen off their cars! peace, Jwan Allen Technoir Records www.technoiraudio.com (coming soon) _ What are you into? Win gear, movies, gadgets, and games from IGN.com Check 'em out - http://www.igncontests.com Absolutely NO purchase required.
Re: [313] hard house?
i actually prefer the uk house over the domestic stuff. that domestic stuff gets old after 16 beats. mike d.
richard harvey/regis/female
OK, i'm sorry for the confusion guys... The reason I brought the whole regis/female mix-up into the question in the first place, is that Pacou once told me that they are the same person, but as it all turns out he was only joking (he's a strange guy, you'll know if you know him). I've forwarded part of his answer to me to the list, sorry about the confusion my original mail has caused. everything should be explained with this mail though - Pacou is kind of a techno encyclopedia ;) === Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials - Original Message - From: Pacou To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: downwards no its 3 people. regis is karl o conner he is the boss. very cool but strange sense of humour female is peter sutton he is doing accounting at their company, he is doing the best stuff musicwise. the User guy is Richard, he is black. I think he is not very original.
Re: [idm] jeremy dower...
At 07:51 AM 10/2/2000 -0700, you wrote: hello. there is a new release on plug research called setimental dance music for couples. it is by a fellow named jeremy dower. wonderful stuff! it is like easy listening heaven and has found a nice home next to my perreykingsley and sackblumm cds. does anyone have more info on this fellow? Yes i just picked this one up the other day as well. Eleven tracks of mellow electronic loungy jazz that sounds like a cross between early Jimi Tenor and electronic-trumpetist Ben Neill with somewhat darker undertones. Regarding Jeremy Downer, he has been performing/recordnig in Australia for the last five years or so under the guise Tetrphnm. Supposedly he's rather big in the Melbourn electronic scene or so i've read... Here are the releases infos: . Jeremy Dower: sentimental dance music for couples cd (Plug Research 025) Tracks: - would you like to dance - should i trust my heart? - the young and the restless - i'm coming to get you - i don't want to leave - the way i should feel - now look what you've done - diagram showing the path of the bubbles from a sparkling drink - it's funny because it's true - for keeps Also watch out for the Plug Researcg 10 Split series which will be available soon. Here are the three that i've heard so far - all of which are excellent! . Mr. Hazeltine, Divine Styler, Mr. Moto split 10 (Plug Research) . Move D/Sutekh split 10 (Plug Research) . Languis/Safety Scissors split 10 (Plug Research) More info on all the above releases at www.plugresearch.com Hope this helps! ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
Rauschen 15 mix cd...
Excellent new mix cd out on Force Inc that highlights the best in deep dark click-techno tech-house mixed by Cytrax's own DJ Jasper. Great track selection too with solid mixing. Here are the release details... . Rauschen 15 mix cd (Force Inc) Tracks in the mix by - Stewart Walker, M.R.I., Safety Scissors, Auch, *G*, Jasper, Atlon Inc, A-Nov, Exos, Major Rush, Porter Ricks, Sutekh, D. Diggler, Twerk. For more info check www.force-inc.com ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
Detroit Escalator Co Ibex releases...
After almost a five year absense, Neil Ollivierra has returned with a release of sublime detroit emotion. The first is a double 10 on Peacefrog called Black Buildings which features seven tracks of devine melodic string-laiden detroit ambience and electronica including his track that appeared on last year's Time:Space Transmat compilation. I cant say enough good things about this new DEC release because for me, the sounds represented on this release typify what I love about detroit techno. Definitely a contender for my tops of 2k. A full length DEC cd is forthcoming on Peacefrog and is said to contain several of the tracks from the above release plus some of the better tracks from his epic Soundtrack 313 album from years ago on Ferox. So for those who missed Soundtrack 313 the first time around, you'll have your chance again soon The second Ollivierra-related release is a 3-track 12 on Planet E under the guise Ibex. But Ibex is by Tony Ollivierra not Neil. This 12, which features three tracks, has the same soulful emotion as the DEC releases but adds more of a jazzy house/ disco flavor that Planet E has been so good at recently. Here are the release infos on both... . Detroit Escalator Company: black buildings 2x10 (Peacefrog) Tracks: - the inverted man [dreaming] - float - plumb - sistrum - scram - duat - nebulae Also... . Ibex: oasis 12 (Planet E) Tracks: - Oasis - Bok Choy - Oasis (Dub) Hope this helps! ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
Who want Ben Sims?
Hey Everybody, I'm trying to hook up a gig with Ben Sims for the 17th of November but they want me to find him a US date for the 18th to make it worthwhile. If anyone is interested please contact me ASAP. Hans ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
soundcard purchase advice needed
(apologies for the cross-posting; please reply privately so as to not further clog up the lists) I've been making do with the basic soundcard that came with my PC: Soundblaster 16 since I got it. But now that I'm getting back into recording my own music again (and making the computer part of that process), I want to get a better soundcard. My problem is that I am about as ignorant as they come when it comes to technology, so I have no idea what I should be looking for. I'm not looking for a better soundcard for gameplaying (I don't play games), just music making. My biggest concern is that with my current soundcard, I have to record from the soundcard's lineout to the linein on my DAT, and then viceversa to get the sound back into the soundcard (ie if I want to tweak I have to do this). I'd like to be able to jam live and *record these jams as I'm jamming* all using the same soundcard (ie keep everthing in the soundcard from start to finish and not have to export to DAT and then import back into the soundcard). Is this possible? (seriously, if you're thinking this Duke's pretty stupid, I have no problem with that; I barely passed sciences and maths in school). The computer stores I've talked to said it wouldn't be practical with my system to just buy a second soundcard and bounce audio from soundcard #1 to soundcard #2. They're used to people who want new soundcards for better gaming-related audio, not people like myself who want better soundcards re: musicmaking. Soundblaster Platinum 5.1's infopage http://www.creativelabs.com/sound/live-platinum-51 has all kinds of gobbledygook that makes not much sense to me: like: does full digital mixer maintains all sound mixing in the digital domain, eliminating noise from the signal mean I can record my jams as I play them (for further editing) all within the same soundcard?! And most of these soundcards come with all kinds of games, effects, etc, etc, etc, that I'm not interested in (but it looks like the higher up in quality you go, the more stuff they add on). It's not really a price issue for me cos this is something I've been needing to do for awhile. It's just that I need input from those who know their soundcards and I can't track down that info here in Halifax and, on the web, the info I find is beyond my comprehension. (I'm a music man, not a technology man!:) Anyway, any help would be super appreciated. Thanks. Andrew Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9
Re: [313] Tone shifting
Re: It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding trainsthere so much music to be heard!! Anyway, amongst others, there was one that said you know you're a raver/techno freak when you find yourself nodding your head to th tribal sounds of a washing machine. I used to work at a Kinko's and I found that environment was a rich source of metal on metal beats. Folding machines, multiple large Xerox machines churning out copies wich big ka-chung sounds, the hum of computers, staple machines, the high pitch zip sound of color copiers it was the only redeeming character of that place. I made several poor quality tapes of the sounds for future use. Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Tone shifting
I used to work at a Kinko's and I found that environment was a rich source of metal on metal beats. Folding machines, multiple large Xerox machines churning out copies wich big ka-chung sounds, the hum of computers, staple machines, the high pitch zip sound of color copiers it was the only redeeming character of that place. I made several poor quality tapes of the sounds for future use. This is good... I like these robotic machine noise samples... Has anyone got any sound from, eg, hydraulic or pneumatic machines/vehicles(cranes/diggers etc), robots (car factory or other automated production line sounds)... I want some tapes... I'm not weird am I? LOL Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Inaudible Reminder...
I listened last week and it really was a great show. From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Inaudible Reminder... Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 09:30:45 -0400 Just a quick note to remind you of tonight's Inaudible Radio/Webcast which will be broadcasting this evening from 9-11 pm Eastern Standard Time. To listen over the internet visit http://www.wcsb.org at 9 pm and click on the Click here for Audioactive Feed link. If you are in the Cleveland area you can tune in by setting your radio to 89.3 fm. Hope you'll all tune in! ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Finally out - Pub- Summer cd on Vertical Form...
Finally out after several months of delay... After the Pub - Summer parts 1 2 remix 12s, Vertical Form has just released the Pub - Summer remix cd which contains all the tracks from the two previous remix 12s plus two bonus remixes by Vladislav Delay and Arovane. The new Arovane mix is probably the best mix of all featuring deep, almost 4x4 percussion under the symphonic melodic stylings that Arovane known for. Beautiful stuff. Another top release for 2k. . Pub: summer cd (Vertical Form/VFORMCD001) Tracks: 1. Summer - original mix 2. Summer - they cant see us in the dark - v. delay configuration 1 3. Summer - arovane amx1 4. Summer - nick rapaccioli remake 5. Summer - later in the dark - v. delay configuration 2 6. Summer - arovane amx2 Up next for Vertical Form is a new Kit Clayton ep... ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
regis vs. female
for all i know, richard harvey does not exist. he was supposed to do a live performance at furthur this year, but when his time slot rolled around, richard turner of utility plastics spun, after having spun the night before. i then talked to turner after his set, and he said that harvey had missed his flight. who knows? troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Photek:Solaris
Along with the Nubian Mindz album (New World Chaos), this is one of the year's greats for the opening 3 tracks alone. Many of the things on here are in a strongly Detroit vein. Masterful stuff, even the one with the Portishead overtones. Check out the well written review in the latest URB comparing its evocation of classic house and techno 'memories' to Tarkovsky's film Solaris. Made me pull out my old copy of Mr. Fingers, Introduction, anyway. Wes (BTW, in the immortal words of Aux 88: play it loud) On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Jongsma, K.J. wrote: I bought the new Photek album today, and for those of you who didn't heard this already: it's brilliant. The best track and threason to buy this album is this colaboration of Photek and Robert Owens on a House groove. Most of the tracks aren't so DB at all, more on a house veign. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] regis vs. female
i think it's safe to say that when pacou says that he exists he really does. like i said: he is quite the elctronic music encyclopedia ;) Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials - Original Message - From: john holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: [313] regis vs. female for all i know, richard harvey does not exist. he was supposed to do a live performance at furthur this year, but when his time slot rolled around, richard turner of utility plastics spun, after having spun the night before. i then talked to turner after his set, and he said that harvey had missed his flight. who knows? troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from today's metro times
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=697 I just wanna dance Promoters sue Highland Park over alleged dance party brutality by Melissa Giannini When one thinks of police brutality or racial profiling, white kids from the suburbs don't usually come to mind. But attorney Carl L. Collins III will argue that, in the case of at least one May 6-7 party that took place in Highland Park, police sought out people who appeared to be young suburbanites, harassed them, arrested them falsely and brutally abused them for participating in what police thought was a rave. Collins announced Tuesday, on behalf of Detroit Underground Productions, Inc. and six other individuals, two multimillion-dollar lawsuits against the Highland Park city government and police department, citing civil rights violations, racial discrimination, racial profiling, police trespassing, false arrest, slander, defamation of character, illegal forfeiture of funds and other charges. In the case of the party in question, Collins said that promoters met with the mayor and were granted approval to host the party. The night of the event, police raided it. According to Collins, a few people were the victims of extreme physical abuse, property was taken and many were arrested. All of the charges were dropped afterward, except for one individual, a minor, who pleaded guilty after being offered a reduced charge. Videotape exists from the night of the party showing the alleged brutality. Rarely has legal action taken place to defend dance culture and Collins says that this form of harassment and profiling has for the most part gone unnoticed. Right To Dance, an organization formed because of violent raids over the past year in Detroit, staged a protest rally Tuesday at 5 p.m. at Detroit City Hall in front of the Spirit of Detroit statue. When any story hits the news, it brings to light, yeah, your son or daughter might have been there, but your son or daughter might have also gotten a Maglite upside the head, says Carl Smith of Right To Dance. The organization is protesting the violence, but Smith says he'd like to work with the government and police to create a safer scene as has happened in Toronto, where the city officials drafted laws that were acceptable to both sides of the issue. More to come.
Richard Harvey
And whassup with Harvey Lane, resident Lost dj, who's mixed the new User/Serial Scratch cd?! That name makes you wonder a bit, doesn't it? Up the garden lane (sorry, path) we go... On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, john holmes wrote: for all i know, richard harvey does not exist. he was supposed to do a live performance at furthur this year, but when his time slot rolled around, richard turner of utility plastics spun, after having spun the night before. i then talked to turner after his set, and he said that harvey had missed his flight. who knows? troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] from today's metro times
the lawyer, carl collins is an old school house head. i went to high school with him in the mid eighties. this is the future
Anyone out there in the Boston area?
Hey, I'm looking to meet some people around boston who are into the detroit techno scene.especially musicians looking to collaborate. Let me know. Todd
RE: Motor this Fri.
Would anyone happen to know what time slot Adam Beyer has for Motor this Friday? I've checked the site, but it doesn't say much, other than that he is going to be there. Thanx Sherry Dean
RE: [313] regis vs. female
Just to chime into this Regis/Female thread, I just heard the Karl O'Connor/Peter Sutton Againstnature album on Tresor this morning and have to recommend it to anyone interested in that Birmingham sound. Some words to describe it: dense, tribal, hard, thick, industrial, manic, driving, insane I don't think it's as great as Surgeon's Force + Form album, but it's up there. I'd be curious to know what anyone else thinks. Personally, I don't own anything off the Downwards label, so it's hard for me to benchmark this album. -Original Message- From: paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:30 AM To: viagratek .; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] regis vs. female just to clear things... regis - karl o'connor female - pete sutton both work at and run integrale musique distribution in birmingham, uk dean cole also works there. these are 3 different people any/all of above could be user but we're not saying - Original Message - From: viagratek . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: [313] regis vs. female my friends booked regis and female for a show down here last october. due to technical difficulties...only regis got to perform but they said both karl and pete were there and i did see two british guys behind the mixer. as for either of them being richard harvey, thats still up in the air but from what i saw regis and female are two different people -v _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] hard house?
This may be weird irony, but I was just thinking about this very topic after seeing some headline on the cover of some UK mag and now as I tread through the new Tall Paul mix (it's for work, not pleasure...) For example, all the Timo Maas remixes of Green Velvet's Flash have been getting tons of play on all the new progressive house/trance mixes that have come out the past few months (Tall Paul, Dave Ralph, Scott Henry, Gatecrasher, Deep Dish, etc). The original version of Flash fits my original schema of hard house as we define it here in America. Yet these Timo Maas remixes seem to be ultra-trendy with all the progressive house/trance DJs; they have all the gloss and tweaking of trance but without the synths or breakdowns. I can't define what is and what isn't hard house, since it's an ambiguous term, but I do believe that a lot of these trance guys are coming to their senses a bit and getting tired of all the formulaic trance that has flooded the market for the past 2-3 years. I think a lot of them are turning to what's being called hard house because it doesn't have as much of the clichéd (aka cheese) stuff that makes so many people dis trance. In other words, it's a safer sound, a sort of compromise between trance and Relief-style hard house. -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] regis vs. female
this release is excellent imo. the kind of stuff just made to be heard on a big system. love the feedback sounds at the end of that one track, make the ears bleed:) -Original Message- From: Jason Birchmeier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] regis vs. female Just to chime into this Regis/Female thread, I just heard the Karl O'Connor/Peter Sutton Againstnature album on Tresor this morning and have to recommend it to anyone interested in that Birmingham sound. Some words to describe it: dense, tribal, hard, thick, industrial, manic, driving, insane I don't think it's as great as Surgeon's Force + Form album, but it's up there. I'd be curious to know what anyone else thinks. Personally, I don't own anything off the Downwards label, so it's hard for me to benchmark this album. -Original Message- From: paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:30 AM To: viagratek .; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] regis vs. female just to clear things... regis - karl o'connor female - pete sutton both work at and run integrale musique distribution in birmingham, uk dean cole also works there. these are 3 different people any/all of above could be user but we're not saying - Original Message - From: viagratek . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: [313] regis vs. female my friends booked regis and female for a show down here last october. due to technical difficulties...only regis got to perform but they said both karl and pete were there and i did see two british guys behind the mixer. as for either of them being richard harvey, thats still up in the air but from what i saw regis and female are two different people -v _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's up with Cloud 9?
Been hearing about this club for awhile and finally went to check it out this past Friday with some friends. Unfortunately, when we arrived around 11:30, there were only three people in the whole club that didn't work there. I felt a little silly for hyping up the club to my friends and then have it be dead. Is Cloud 9 hype strictly on Wednesdays? I'm hoping -- for the club's sake -- that they get a little more business on other nights.
Re: [313] regis vs. female
well then you're REALLY missing out, 'cos most of the older stuff has got so much raw energy. recommendations: surgeon - communications surgeon - pet 2000 surgeon - magneze regis - gymnastics but almost everything on the label really ;) === Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials - Original Message - From: Jason Birchmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:44 PM Subject: RE: [313] regis vs. female Personally, I don't own anything off the Downwards label, so it's hard for me to benchmark this album.
Hip-hop
I know this is off topic but does anyone know where to buy underground hip-hop in Detroit??? I went to Lifesoundtrax today and it was cool. thanks again, Five
Chicago weekend
Anyone in Chicago know of good things happening this weekend (Friday or Saturday)? I saw that Adam Beyer is playing, as well as Miguel Migs (leaning more toward that since I've seen Beyer already). Also, I would like to find out about more underground house events/clubs in the city. I saw the Prop House...looks good. Anyone been there before? Please reply in private since this isn't strictly 313 related. Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
re:313 mo moby/cybersonik
You mean Cybersonik( Dan Bell Richie Hawtin) w/ DJ John Acquaviva right? Was that late 92 or early 93 I saw that tour in Atlanta but don't remember the year..doh!
RE: [313] hard house?
I can't define what is and what isn't hard house, since it's an ambiguous term, but I do believe that a lot of these trance guys are coming to their senses a bit and getting tired of all the formulaic trance that has flooded the market for the past 2-3 years. I think a lot of them are turning to what's being called hard house because it doesn't have as much of the clich?d (aka cheese) stuff that makes so many people dis trance. In other words, it's a safer sound, a sort of compromise between trance and Relief-style hard house. from what i understand, UK hard house is a completely different entity from US hard house. UK hard house is basically harder progressive house, whereas US hardhouse is bad boy bill, richard humpty vission, dj bam-bam, dj irene, some dj funk, etc. glyn
RE: [313] hard house?
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote: Wow where have I been? I'm such an ignorant yankee. not to vancouver, apparently. we're supposedly the UK hard-house/Nu-NRG capital of north america-- not that that's really anything to be bragging about... *shudder* glyn
women and electronic music
hi everyone, I've been around in the so called scene for some years now and well...i'm really interested in the entire area of women (and the lack of) involved in the electronic music scene. ie. producers, djs, record collectors, etc. SO, i'm thinking about writing my dissertation on the topic cuz it really irks me how this is an area that has been just about completely neglected in most of the literature (books, articles) dealing with electronic music i've gotten around to reading. so if any of you have leads of people i should talk to or are willing to talk to me about your own experiences in the so called scene...from any angle i'd REALLY REALLY appreciate it. BACKGROUND: for those of you who don't know me. i'm originally from windsor...got a master's from WSU in detroit and am currently workin on my phd at uiowa in communication studies and would LOVE to make this my project for the rest of my career as a student. so at the moment i'm interested in feedback, which is more than appreciated. what do u all think? worthwhile project? thanks SO much, bekka =) NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: [313] hard house?
Ahhh, don't forget LA-based Matt Johnson, and also DJ Trajic and Alex Peace. :) I don't know if tha D ever took to the hard house sound much at all, but not so long ago it was really big in Chicago. I don't hear much new hard house coming out anymore, although from what I've seen, what's left of it seems to be coming out of LA/SoCal, so I'm guessing it still must remain fairly popular our there. I'll agree with whoever it was (earlier in this thread) that pointed out that you can identify hard house by what basically consists of a housy-looped track and a deep distorted bass beat. I don't find that hard house contains much of the melodies or ambience you'll find built into techno, but many of the songs from both genres blend in together well. Unfortuantely, I think the mostly loopy/repetitive nature of hard house tends to burn most people out on it after a while. The better DJ's that spin it will mix into a track and then get right back out of it and into another, it's not something you'd want to listen to over and over again for 7 or 8 straight minutes. Even though it doesn't seem to be as popular anymore, it's not dead... I spoke with Alex Peace a while back and he said that he and Bam Bam (Eric Cea) were trying to take it in the direction of a more minimal sound... I haven't really heard anything that might be considered the result of this yet, but time will tell I suppose. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com Although Bill hasn't played Hard House for the past couple of years, I'm sure you can include DJ Irene, DJ Bam Bam, Kevin Irving and Mark V Poogie Bear to the list of people who helped promote that sound. BTW, can anyone explain why this genre is so popular in Souther California? To me Hard House sounds like Hardcore. Ciao, Joel
[313] hawtin
Hey I heard that Richie Hawtin and Pete Namlook did a thing 2gether and I was wondering if anyone new anything about it and if it was worth getting. Thanx Angel 0 0 vv _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] hawtin
Some samples of this are on the minus site. I personally do not care for it one bit. Lorie On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Lisa McEntire wrote: Hey I heard that Richie Hawtin and Pete Namlook did a thing 2gether and I was wondering if anyone new anything about it and if it was worth getting. Thanx Angel 0 0 vv _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] digweed
In a message dated 10/4/2000 8:12:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and I'm sure he's playing Jaguar so there. and isn't it a shame. peace mike
RE: [313] hard house?
This may be weird irony, but I was just thinking about this very topic after seeing some headline on the cover of some UK mag and now as I tread through the new Tall Paul mix (it's for work, not pleasure...) Suuure. keep on telling yourself that! ;) I can't define what is and what isn't hard house, since it's an ambiguous term, but I do believe that a lot of these trance guys are coming to their senses a bit and getting tired of all the formulaic trance that has flooded the market for the past 2-3 years. I think a lot of them are turning to what's being called hard house because it doesn't have as much of the clichéd (aka cheese) stuff that makes so many people dis trance. In other words, it's a safer sound, a sort of compromise between trance and Relief-style hard house. First, please do not insult one of my favorite labels by comparing it to trance music in the UK. Second, it doesn't matter what horrible music those DJ's hide under. Bad music is bad music, you can't hide from that fact, jak! Peace, Kyeo NP: Stars. Fingers Inc. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] hard house?
you guys are an absolute wealth of information on hard house : how fortunate am i to drink from such a veritable fountain! - Original Message - From: Dr. Nick Riviera [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [313] hard house? This may be weird irony, but I was just thinking about this very topic after seeing some headline on the cover of some UK mag and now as I tread through the new Tall Paul mix (it's for work, not pleasure...) Suuure. keep on telling yourself that! ;) I can't define what is and what isn't hard house, since it's an ambiguous term, but I do believe that a lot of these trance guys are coming to their senses a bit and getting tired of all the formulaic trance that has flooded the market for the past 2-3 years. I think a lot of them are turning to what's being called hard house because it doesn't have as much of the clichéd (aka cheese) stuff that makes so many people dis trance. In other words, it's a safer sound, a sort of compromise between trance and Relief-style hard house. First, please do not insult one of my favorite labels by comparing it to trance music in the UK. Second, it doesn't matter what horrible music those DJ's hide under. Bad music is bad music, you can't hide from that fact, jak! Peace, Kyeo NP: Stars. Fingers Inc. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
keoki iz kewl
iz keoki hard houze or iz he lik djadum buyier? i dg hiz beetz, y0 where is my crack pipe?
