[313] bad Dave Clarke mix
i just recently relistened to Dave Clarke's I Love Techno mix, and i agree it's pretty bad, not to my tastes and doesn't show anything of his skills. if you want to hear a better mix, check out his essential mix 1-16-2000 for something MUCH better. track selection is better, tricks are showcased more, all around a good mix. he also mixes electro for a good 30 minute portion in the middle. just a heads up Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 1 more demf afterparty
I haven't seen any party with DJ T-1000 yet. What about this festival he was organising, any word on that? Well, he's rumored to be making an appearance at the TKO event on Sunday... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants.
yeah, the two electro boogie mixes - or the techno mix in the muzik magazine boxed set. neither, by the way, using pro tools. also, daves style is all about seeing him live. he rocks a party - simple. its like mills - liquid rooms might not sound technically great on CD, but see him live and you know he's a great DJ. mixes you have to feel, not just hear. - Original Message - From: dan ito [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants. any electro boogie mix or the fuse mix(not the one off napster). From: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants. Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:00:41 -0700 I heard people here talking about Dave Clarke, and I've heard him compared to Hawtin in other circles, so I decided to give him a shot. I downloaded 'Dave Clarke - Live @ I Love Techno [Red Room]' from Napster and I would like to know, has anyone else heard this? RANT What the hell is this guy trying to do? Excessive use of Pioneer DJM-600 effects on cheesy default settings, no regard whatsoever for 4/4 timing and proper breaks, and a complete lack of song selection seemed to be the obvious problems I saw. Hawtin could make a more entertaing show with the original RCA phonograph and two volume controls. /RANT On the good side, he has some nice crossfader technique once in awhile. Sorry, I had to get this off of my chest, but if someone out there knows of a good set by our esteemed Mr. Clarke, please clue me in. Regards, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] derrick may - wildtimes rmx
who is the original artist of that remix? thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] way off topic
peepz yesterday i bought a copy of us mag bpm which seems kinda cool compared to the drug obsessed uk mags i've long since given up looking at. it also has reasonably well written articles with lots of text you have to read which is unusual and good i think. now i know i'm out of touch with a lot of mainstream or commercial dance music but the thing that strikes me about the mag is how few of the names of artists djs i recognise. one of the articles is about the notec collective from mexico whose CD i'm listening to online now and some of it sounds pretty cool fresh. question is this - apart from d techno house - what recent things are ppl listening to enjoying? thanx p-dogg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants.
ps. i love ranting...its good for the soul... - Original Message - From: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants. I heard people here talking about Dave Clarke, and I've heard him compared to Hawtin in other circles, so I decided to give him a shot. I downloaded 'Dave Clarke - Live @ I Love Techno [Red Room]' from Napster and I would like to know, has anyone else heard this? RANT What the hell is this guy trying to do? Excessive use of Pioneer DJM-600 effects on cheesy default settings, no regard whatsoever for 4/4 timing and proper breaks, and a complete lack of song selection seemed to be the obvious problems I saw. Hawtin could make a more entertaing show with the original RCA phonograph and two volume controls. /RANT On the good side, he has some nice crossfader technique once in awhile. Sorry, I had to get this off of my chest, but if someone out there knows of a good set by our esteemed Mr. Clarke, please clue me in. Regards, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] neat little k hand article...
I was in the library today, reading this magazine entrepreneur weekly, and there was a little article about the booming business of DJing, featuring quotes and words from k hand (and someone else, I forgot for the moment) talking about how he can get 10,000 a gig... I just find it weird that this was in that magazine, and the topic was about the booming business of DJing, and they interviewed detroit DJ's. k hand is not what you would call a well known commercial DJ, why did they pick him? darw_n... ... :i: explore. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] neat little k hand article...
k hand is not what you would call a well known commercial DJ, why did they pick him? erm...its her...;) - Original Message - From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:14 AM Subject: [313] neat little k hand article... I was in the library today, reading this magazine entrepreneur weekly, and there was a little article about the booming business of DJing, featuring quotes and words from k hand (and someone else, I forgot for the moment) talking about how he can get 10,000 a gig... I just find it weird that this was in that magazine, and the topic was about the booming business of DJing, and they interviewed detroit DJ's. k hand is not what you would call a well known commercial DJ, why did they pick him? darw_n... ... :i: explore. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] St. Andrews ?
Anyone know the address for this DEMF event? CKDK Location: St. Andrews Lineup: DJ's Carl Craig Kevin Saunderson Derrick May Kenny Larkin _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] derrick may - wildtimes rmx
delite a different group from the pop-house trio deee-lite. --brian dillard -Original Message- From: .: Caltrop :. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 4:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] derrick may - wildtimes rmx who is the original artist of that remix? thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] priceline.com
Just letting some of you know that I got a room at the marriott renaissance for $65 us a night through priceline.com And I have heard of people getting them for $55 a night darw_n... ... :i: explore. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] St. Andrews ?
st andy's is located at 431 e. congress, about a block and a half from the rencen. matthew -Original Message- From: M Elliot-Knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] St. Andrews ? Anyone know the address for this DEMF event? CKDK Location: St. Andrews Lineup: DJ's Carl Craig Kevin Saunderson Derrick May Kenny Larkin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] where's that completed afterhours list?
sorry about the frequent posts today... wasn't there going to be a completed list of all the after-hours for the carnival?? I am particularly interested in dan bell's party Is +8 doing one? thanks darw_n... ... :i: explore. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] soundhack/soundstream
I got these sent over from Hardwax after hearing some of the tracks on copies belonging to a friend of mine, and recognising them as tracks that had my jaw-dropping a few times on the dancefloor. The style of the tracks is quite hard to describe. They're really overtly dancefloor oriented, but have quite complex sounds and rhythms going on: stuff I associate more with clicky homelistening tracks. Can someone else describe them? Cheers Chris --- Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you find these ? // giles lo sens wrote: Hi I've just recently got hold of the 3 soundhack / soundstream releases: amazing genre-defying tracks that really hit a dancefloor hard. I understand the ep's were big in Detroit (I heard Mills drop the soundstream track a couple of months ago). My question is: who is this? I understand the person responsible's from Berlin. Anyone have any more info? Cheers Chris _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G i l e s D i c k e r s o n A r t D i r e c t o r D I G I T A S / B O S T O N t + 6 1 7 3 6 9 8 6 0 1 m + 6 1 7 8 9 9 9 6 3 5 e + [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] (pop goes underground through some rmx)
Another question. Do you guys know any other rmx-es of poprock groups that you find essential? I'm looking for the Carl Craig rmx of Ultramarine - Hooter...by the way. From: Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '.: Caltrop :.' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] derrick may - wildtimes rmx Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:57:29 -0700 delite a different group from the pop-house trio deee-lite. --brian dillard -Original Message- From: .: Caltrop :. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 4:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] derrick may - wildtimes rmx who is the original artist of that remix? thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 1 more demf afterparty
'Rumoured'? Surely then this can't be the same Cornelius Harris who occasionally pops in to warn others against spreading rumours, can it? ;-) Tom NP: Marco Carola: 1000 Collection CD (ELP) - Original Message - From: Cornelius Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [313] 1 more demf afterparty I haven't seen any party with DJ T-1000 yet. What about this festival he was organising, any word on that? Well, he's rumored to be making an appearance at the TKO event on Sunday... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DJ Bookings
Hiya, I'm wondering if anyone can point me towards some DJ Agency's or something like that. I'm part of a soundsystem that has been doing small local nights, but we're growing and have just secured what could be a regular club venue, and therefore we are looking into the possibility of hiring a proper DJ. Of course, as we are just barely getting started, its going to have to be someone pretty reasonably priced, so I'm afraid that rules out any proper Detroit guys, as I live in the UK (sorry its not strictly detroit related, but I'm sure someone on here must be able to help anyway). What we were thinking of to begin with is trying to get in the local guys (or gals) - House of God residents, Atomic Jam or Voodoo residents, etc, and with a bit of luck perhaps Dj's who dont play around our area quite as often, like Dave Angel, Trevor Rockliffe, Daz Saund, Colin Dale or Favor, Billy Nasty... So who is best to speak to - or perhaps which website should I aim my browser at? And as for club resident types, would I be able to just phone the club and get in touch that way, or would their bookings be handled by someone else? Its all new to me so any help is appreciated. many thanks, Aaron
Re: [313] DJ Bookings
At least some of the DJs you mention are under the wing of Billy Nasty's Theremin agency (contact Jon Terry: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ePM (Oliver Way: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I believe both have sites too. Should get you up running. Tom Hiya, I'm wondering if anyone can point me towards some DJ Agency's or something like that. I'm part of a soundsystem that has been doing small local nights, but we're growing and have just secured what could be a regular club venue, and therefore we are looking into the possibility of hiring a proper DJ. Of course, as we are just barely getting started, its going to have to be someone pretty reasonably priced, so I'm afraid that rules out any proper Detroit guys, as I live in the UK (sorry its not strictly detroit related, but I'm sure someone on here must be able to help anyway). What we were thinking of to begin with is trying to get in the local guys (or gals) - House of God residents, Atomic Jam or Voodoo residents, etc, and with a bit of luck perhaps Dj's who dont play around our area quite as often, like Dave Angel, Trevor Rockliffe, Daz Saund, Colin Dale or Favor, Billy Nasty... So who is best to speak to - or perhaps which website should I aim my browser at? And as for club resident types, would I be able to just phone the club and get in touch that way, or would their bookings be handled by someone else? Its all new to me so any help is appreciated. many thanks, Aaron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: [[313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants.]
I somewhat have to agree with you there, I think Dave Clarke is one of many largely overrated dj's of our time. And on top of that he's an arrogant pompous ass as well. But you can't judge a dj on one mix. You should listen to more of him and when you have the chance, see him in action. I only said he's largely overrated. Not that he's a bad dj! Joost Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard people here talking about Dave Clarke, and I've heard him compared to Hawtin in other circles, so I decided to give him a shot. I downloaded 'Dave Clarke - Live @ I Love Techno [Red Room]' from Napster and I would like to know, has anyone else heard this? RANT What the hell is this guy trying to do? Excessive use of Pioneer DJM-600 effects on cheesy default settings, no regard whatsoever for 4/4 timing and proper breaks, and a complete lack of song selection seemed to be the obvious problems I saw. Hawtin could make a more entertaing show with the original RCA phonograph and two volume controls. /RANT On the good side, he has some nice crossfader technique once in awhile. Sorry, I had to get this off of my chest, but if someone out there knows of a good set by our esteemed Mr. Clarke, please clue me in. Regards, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first thing Microsoft will produce that doesn't suck, will probably be a vacuum cleaner Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Carl Craig/Basic Channel
Mmmm... look what popped through the door today: Paperclip People: The Climax (Planet E) A. Original mix AA. Basic Channel 2001 mix Apparently it's out this month, the first of Planet E's four re-releases to mark the label's 10th anniversary (next is 3 SHOP tracks due in September). The BC mix sounds absolutely nothing like the original, of course... Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
[Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm Oh great, next year's festival lineup is going to be chosen by a committee! I can't wait to see Tall Paul Van Oakensashweed headline next year! Well, I guess it was cool while it lasted. -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com NOTE: mp3.com has now removed my artist page. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants.
Hey tim, Interesting insight, and comment. There is, however one problem with those live @... sets. They were done live. You never know how the crowd was reacting, and perhaps he was playing the crowd (which he is _very_ good at). I happened to have been in the red room at I love Techno to see him perform at I Love techno last year (not sure if its the same as the recording you were listening to or not), but found that he was entertaining the crowd as much as can be done by a dj. And I thought he was extremely good, even though his choice of music was a bit out of my taste. Most of those types of recordings are not the same thing that would be released if the purpose was to make a mix cd (i believe). Just something to think about when listening to live sets taht weren't meant to be recorded. Cheers! Dennis From: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants. Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:00:41 -0700 I heard people here talking about Dave Clarke, and I've heard him compared to Hawtin in other circles, so I decided to give him a shot. I downloaded 'Dave Clarke - Live @ I Love Techno [Red Room]' from Napster and I would like to know, has anyone else heard this? RANT What the hell is this guy trying to do? Excessive use of Pioneer DJM-600 effects on cheesy default settings, no regard whatsoever for 4/4 timing and proper breaks, and a complete lack of song selection seemed to be the obvious problems I saw. Hawtin could make a more entertaing show with the original RCA phonograph and two volume controls. /RANT On the good side, he has some nice crossfader technique once in awhile. Sorry, I had to get this off of my chest, but if someone out there knows of a good set by our esteemed Mr. Clarke, please clue me in. Regards, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
- Original Message - From: Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm First thing that popped into my mind when I heard this: Craig said that in the world of techno music -- where artists often act as their own agents and are frequently abroad -- it is difficult securing the volume of paperwork that comes with an event the size of the DEMF. But personally, I'll worry about this when we discuss it from January-April 2002. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] re: vogel / dave clarke
Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. Max, Max, Max *sigh*. What in your opinion is an obvious record? Hang on, don't tell me - Zombie Nation! I don't know if you can pick up a copy of Jockey Slut but D.C explains that whole episode in there. Personally, I think Dave plays the best selection of records out of any Techno DJ I've heard. When I go to a club, I want the DJ to rock the dancefloor, to make me dance. I don't want to stand by the DJ box with a notepad saying ooh, that's an interesting obscure techno record, what an un-obvious choice. You've gotta understand that party energy is what he creates!! (sorry :) Seriously though, even Mr. C who doesn't like D.C as person (who does - he sounds like a complete a**hole!) was saying to me at Headstart what great energy he creates. Dave has some excellent, dark electro, brilliant Chicago house, hard minimal techno, housier record like Compass, basically anything with originality that rocks a dancefloor. Dave is like a full-on, no-holds barred speaker assault. What really sets D.C apart from other DJs for me though is his mixing ability (how anyone can doubt this amazes me.) Personally, I think he's the best I've ever heard. I've also heard D.C more than any other DJ. I don't actually give a f*ck what he's like as a person as I don't go to Headstart to have a chat with him. Derrick May described D.C as having the biggest balls in Techno. Dave also won Essential Mix of the year for 2000. Explain to me how he could win that if he doesn't know how to mix? The fuse club CD is brilliant, the Electro Boogie CD is brilliant, his Essential Mixes are brilliant, nearly everything he's produced is brilliant and I'm sure his new CD will be, erm brilliant! : ) GG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OT: Gear@ DEMF
might help to know what they were. just a thought -Original Message- From: Jim Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:23 PM To: 313; Gear Subject: [313] OT: Gear@ DEMF I know we will all meet up soon 2 DEMF I got a couple pieces of gear I need to get rid of In order to further my starving producer Habits and thought if any of you are interested I can bring them along. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
Interesting, however from what I have read, I thought the festival was Mr.Craig's brainchild...and now he is ousted? Personally, I liked the idea of bringing in acts from around the world, and not just Detroit. This list seems too quiet or should we go back to talking about essential mixes :) Jess Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants.
Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. Another point whilst I think of it - Dave doesn't believe in edited mixes / pro - tools etc, he always insists on doing mix CDs in one take. How many other DJs would say that?? GG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
F***in hell!!! See, no sooner as they get their foot in the door, they take over... He'd better not stand down... No down they'll be using strong arm tactics to persuade him to hand the DEMF over... Those b*ds. If anything happens, we have to remain true to the scene alright?!?! Underground, 300 years ahead, they can't kill us all... Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
Interesting, however from what I have read, I thought the festival was Mr.Craig's brainchild...and now he is ousted? Personally, I liked the idea of bringing in acts from around the world, and not just Detroit. This list seems too quiet I think everyone is formulating opinions at the moment. Personally, I can see both sides. On one side you have Carl Craig, an international presence in this music, and a native Detroiter, with a sense of patriotism towards his home city. He not only tries to head this festival for three years, but he also runs a pretty large independant record label, and manages it (from what I know), and also has the responsibility to make sure that all of the appearing artists are not only compensated, but also comfortable. We all know, that it is not entirely his fault that all the acts are not yet _confirmed_, because - let's face it - all of these guys are pretty busy, travelling around and during their thing. On the other side of the fence, you've got a major attraction to the city, and a major contributor of cash, wanting to make sure that they get what has been advertised. In any mainstream event, if this were to transpire (lack of proper confirmation), the event would not go on, or would be severly hampered by the sponsors. This (i guess) is the median between sponsors having a say, and sponsors wanting their money's worth. My personal opinion is that Carl should be fully responsible, and then after the festival, if things are not what they should have been in the promoters eye, that's when a decision like this should be announced. Not now. This is an attention getting scheme from Cpop or the city, or someone. I wouldn't be suprised if Carl was able to pull everything off by May 30th, and they cancelled the termination. Cheers! Dennis or should we go back to talking about essential mixes :) Jess Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
The creative director should have someone to help with paperwork. I guess unless we know what Carl's contract consists of it's hard to make an accurate evaluation on the situation. However, Carl's knowledge and diverse musical interest results in an incredible lineup of artists that you may not get a chance to see if someone else was doing the artist planning. From: Jessica M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 23:31:16 +1000 (EST) Interesting, however from what I have read, I thought the festival was Mr.Craig's brainchild...and now he is ousted? Personally, I liked the idea of bringing in acts from around the world, and not just Detroit. This list seems too quiet or should we go back to talking about essential mixes :) Jess Carl Craig has been asked to step down as creative director for the DEMF. Read: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote: F***in hell!!! See, no sooner as they get their foot in the door, they take over... He'd better not stand down... No down they'll be using strong arm tactics to persuade him to hand the DEMF over... http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm In my opinion the situation is not _that_ bad, or doesn't seem to be anyway: Marvin said the role of creative director will be filled next year by an advisory board made up of artists and others in the Detroit techno industry. I don't know exactly what kind of artists and other people they are referring to by saying that, but my guess is that if they attempt to put other than Detroit people (who are down with the underground :) as the main responsible persons they may have another riot in their hands. So, let's keep our eyes and ears open, but I don't see any cause for an alarm yet. J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Carl Craig Fired!
A HREF=http://www.detroitfreepress.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20010511.htm; Producers pull plug on festival director/A - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] For people in the Netherlands..
So... who's going to see Octave One / Random Noise Generation in Rotterdam? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: 313 Digest 11 May 2001 14:11:12 -0000 Issue 628
Subject: St. Andrews ? Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:41:33 - From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Anyone know the address for this DEMF event? CKDK Location: St. Andrews Lineup: DJ's Carl Craig Kevin Saunderson Derrick May Kenny Larkin Do you have a date/time? -P - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Flux 29th June
FLUX at THE ELECTROWERKZ 29th JUNE 2001 FLUX this month comes to you once again from the ELECTROWERKZ in Angel, London, and we are proud to announce that in association with MUSIC MAN RECORDS, our very special guests in Room 1 will be an exclusive UK appearance from the original dance music pioneers, the legendary PHUTURE 303, playing what we are sure will be an astonishing live set, featuring tracks from their brand new critically acclaimed album SURVIVALS OUR MISSION, along with some classics from the past. Along with Chicagos finest will be Minnesotas FREDDY FRESH, one of the worlds most prolific DJs who will be rocking the floor with an electro set as only he can! FLUXs own CHRIS FINKE will be returning from Europe to deliver his own brand of electronic funk for the boys and girls, and our other resident PENFOLD will once again be firing on all cylinders, ensuring this is a night to remember! Room 2 sees Eukatech Records: Marco Lenzi (Molecular, Eukatech) Mikee Surreal (Surreal Recordings, Eukatech) A.J. Letty (Eukatech) Mark Collings (Eukatech) FLUX is concerned purely with bringing back THE FUNK to the London techno scene-QUALITY TECHNO AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC is our policy, and we are 100% committed to promoting the FLUX sound. So bring your dancing shoes. Please note that FLUX has been established for nearly four years now, and is in NO WAY connected to the new Brighton-based night of the same name. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] re: dave clarke
Gary, I reckon we all know you like Dave Clarke by now, There are a number of people on this list who think he's dull and overrated... difference of opinion, OK? Personally I've seen him more times than I care to remember, and he's played well on maybe two occasions, tops. The last time I saw him I walked out after an hour having paid a tenner to be there. You're not going to change anyone's mind by endlessly repeating but he's won this, I saw him here, etc ad nauseum... -s _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN
Hi everybody, Before we start accusing anyone of being an evil bastard out to corrupt americas youth and steal techno, we need some more info. It is real easy to yell and scream when you have no real information about what is really going on. Scares them tho, doesn't it... There's more of us... Perhaps you're right tho, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions. What do we do if it happens tho? What if they start selling OUR music as if it was always theirs? Maybe it's a big plot by Sony so that they own everything Mad Mike wouldn't let them have... Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] re: vogel / dave clarke
yeah, and don't forget that we've had the tricks vs. seamless mixing debate before, so let's not go there. :) the essential mix has plenty of tricks. Mike From: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] re: vogel / dave clarke Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:53:04 +0100 Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. Max, Max, Max *sigh*. What in your opinion is an obvious record? Hang on, don't tell me - Zombie Nation! I don't know if you can pick up a copy of Jockey Slut but D.C explains that whole episode in there. Personally, I think Dave plays the best selection of records out of any Techno DJ I've heard. When I go to a club, I want the DJ to rock the dancefloor, to make me dance. I don't want to stand by the DJ box with a notepad saying ooh, that's an interesting obscure techno record, what an un-obvious choice. You've gotta understand that party energy is what he creates!! (sorry :) Seriously though, even Mr. C who doesn't like D.C as person (who does - he sounds like a complete a**hole!) was saying to me at Headstart what great energy he creates. Dave has some excellent, dark electro, brilliant Chicago house, hard minimal techno, housier record like Compass, basically anything with originality that rocks a dancefloor. Dave is like a full-on, no-holds barred speaker assault. What really sets D.C apart from other DJs for me though is his mixing ability (how anyone can doubt this amazes me.) Personally, I think he's the best I've ever heard. I've also heard D.C more than any other DJ. I don't actually give a f*ck what he's like as a person as I don't go to Headstart to have a chat with him. Derrick May described D.C as having the biggest balls in Techno. Dave also won Essential Mix of the year for 2000. Explain to me how he could win that if he doesn't know how to mix? The fuse club CD is brilliant, the Electro Boogie CD is brilliant, his Essential Mixes are brilliant, nearly everything he's produced is brilliant and I'm sure his new CD will be, erm brilliant! : ) GG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Paranoia of them taking over (was: [313] CARL CRAIG ASKED TO STEP DOWN)
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote: conclusions. What do we do if it happens tho? What if they start selling OUR music as if it was always theirs? Maybe it's a big plot by Sony so that they own everything Mad Mike wouldn't let them have... By at least _then_ we'll have to do what we did during the Sony-episode: to stand up for our rights. Working in an IT-company, this image resembles IMO a bit the situation the Open Source community is now facing because of Microsoft's attempts to take over the OS-concept: It's open source and available to everyone and everybody has the rights for it, but we still own it and we will make the rules. J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
I think my biggest concern is that SFX will have more say in the line-up next year. Personally, I think SFX is pure evil. ~Jessica Staller Pittsburgh, PA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
What I think is that this forum should be used for constructive debate not 'told you so' snipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/11/2001 11:23:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: Paul Matheson/US/BBHComm) Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired! From The Detroit Free Press: Several of Detroit's pioneering techno musicians met with Craig in April at the office of Derrick May, the Detroit DJ scheduled to play the festival's closing set. They included May, Stacey Pullen and Kevin Saunderson, who asked Craig to include more Detroit artists on the bill. 'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' /// Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was commenting on this list about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't feel it was extremely representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was getting hated on a little. Matter of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic that much at all, which is one that I felt was certainly worth discussing on a 313 list. It's almost as if people didn't want to dare question the holy DEMF and Carl Craig. But now here it is, from the mouth of the prodigal son of techno himself, Mr. Derrick May. And it seems that Carl Craig is on the out and out with this festival anyway. What do y'all think now? - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
Hey, Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was commenting on this list about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't feel it was extremely representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was getting hated on a little. Matter of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic that much at all, which is one that I felt was certainly worth discussing on a 313 list. It's almost as if people didn't want to dare question the holy DEMF and Carl Craig. But now here it is, from the mouth of the prodigal son of techno himself, Mr. Derrick May. And it seems that Carl Craig is on the out and out with this festival anyway. What do y'all think now? I dunno what you're talking about... What about the Conspiracy Theory post by Logavo or did you miss that? I dunno how long you've been on this list but you'd better realise, people won't acknowledge you unless you stand out. I'm rude to people and I question what people class as accepted, that's how I get a response. It's not the best way tho... Better just to make very good posts... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] I know k hand is a woman...
I wrote that post, and I kept referring to k hand as a man, that was a little mistake, I wasn't proof reading, sorry if I offended anyone... nor was I really criticizing, I just found the article weird in an even stranger magazine... darw_n... ... :i: explore. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Derrick May an arrogant prick! Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' I was going to point out this quote as well... who the hell on that lineup does derrick may consider an imitator? True, it's not detroit talent. But I don't see anyone on there that I'd even remotely call a detroit imitator. It almost sounds like he's trying to imply that anything not from detroit is inherently an imitation. I'd like to think he doesn't have his head that far up his ass, but it's hard to see what else he'd mean. True, the lineup isn't as representative of detroit talent as it was last year, but I'd hardly call anyone on there an imitator. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Pal Joey?
Hey, I don't want to sound like a complete idiot but who is Pal Joey... Did he do some old house or something? There's a track I want by him I think... Help me out please, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
I think my biggest concern is that SFX will have more say in the line-up next year. Personally, I think SFX is pure evil. This is so true. Nobody has mentioned the fact that Carl Craig is not too happy about the incident. In the article he would not comment as to whether or not he was going to take legal action. This is an obvious attempt for SFX and other big parties involved to gain getter control over the festival, through the creative process, making it more commercially viable, and therefore milk the cow for all its worth. Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in Ford's massive ad campaign? John _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
okay. Ive been trying to stay out of it, but this comment has drawn me in. you shouldnt just accept what you read or are spoon fed by the media as truth. theres *always* more to a story than what youre told in the paper. I'm contantly reading the paper with a smirk or scepticism. I always read stories wondering about what it is they're *not* telling us. this is one of those cases. yes there was some behind the scenes stuff going on which was touched upon in the article (way more than you can imagine!) Rememeber this :History is written by the victors. He who controls the information controls the power. In America we have what is called The American Revolution in our history books. I'd bet in the British history books it's called The Colonial Riots or The Colonialist Uprising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired! From The Detroit Free Press: Several of Detroit's pioneering techno musicians met with Craig in April at the office of Derrick May, the Detroit DJ scheduled to play the festival's closing set. They included May, Stacey Pullen and Kevin Saunderson, who asked Craig to include more Detroit artists on the bill. 'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' /// Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was commenting on this list about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't feel it was extremely representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was getting hated on a little. Matter of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic that much at all, which is one that I felt was certainly worth discussing on a 313 list. It's almost as if people didn't want to dare question the holy DEMF and Carl Craig. But now here it is, from the mouth of the prodigal son of techno himself, Mr. Derrick May. And it seems that Carl Craig is on the out and out with this festival anyway. What do y'all think now? - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] carl craig asked to step down!
i was thinking about his whole advisory committee thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look to other areas of the world that use committees to choose. the NCAA and the basketball tournament selection committee begin with parameters for who should make it into the tournament. each member of the selection committee has different ideas and are fans of different teams. however when the committee meets, they use their collective opinion and ideas to select the teams. i think that the artistic worth of future demf line-ups would be better with a committee that represents detroit as opposed to the (right or wrong?) opinion of carl craig. just my opinion...no harm no foul -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
. Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in Ford's massive ad campaign? John Yes! I've noticed and i guess more power to them, but it is quite dis- heartening. I certainly hope Carl Craig takes action against them for breech of contract, but we don't know what his contract entails. I will say, I was disappointed that Alan (T1000) wasn't invited to perform either year, but that's another subject I will not get into. ~Jess Pittsburgh, PA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Pal Joey?
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote: Hey, I don't want to sound like a complete idiot but who is Pal Joey... Did he do some old house or something? There's a track I want by him I think... yeah, pal joey is a house head. i have some stuff by him at my shelf, very jazzy and quite deep. i'll dig out some info later for you (busy now). btw, does anyone know if he's still out there doing stuff? sakke -- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
actually, we call it the war of independance. which is pretty flattering;) - Original Message - From: Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: RE: [313] Carl Craig Fired! okay. Ive been trying to stay out of it, but this comment has drawn me in. you shouldnt just accept what you read or are spoon fed by the media as truth. theres *always* more to a story than what youre told in the paper. I'm contantly reading the paper with a smirk or scepticism. I always read stories wondering about what it is they're *not* telling us. this is one of those cases. yes there was some behind the scenes stuff going on which was touched upon in the article (way more than you can imagine!) Rememeber this :History is written by the victors. He who controls the information controls the power. In America we have what is called The American Revolution in our history books. I'd bet in the British history books it's called The Colonial Riots or The Colonialist Uprising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired! From The Detroit Free Press: Several of Detroit's pioneering techno musicians met with Craig in April at the office of Derrick May, the Detroit DJ scheduled to play the festival's closing set. They included May, Stacey Pullen and Kevin Saunderson, who asked Craig to include more Detroit artists on the bill. 'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' /// Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was commenting on this list about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't feel it was extremely representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was getting hated on a little. Matter of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic that much at all, which is one that I felt was certainly worth discussing on a 313 list. It's almost as if people didn't want to dare question the holy DEMF and Carl Craig. But now here it is, from the mouth of the prodigal son of techno himself, Mr. Derrick May. And it seems that Carl Craig is on the out and out with this festival anyway. What do y'all think now? - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Pal Joey?
Yeah. Was he behind Earth People? I think he was, also check out DJ Breaks Classics stuff, volume 3 has a top tune on it, name of which escapes me... all of the above on Underworld records. Sort of discoey, hip hoppy, occasionally jazzy house from early 90s, if that makes sense. Great stuff. Jim can correct me if I'm wrong :) Jonny. Hey, I don't want to sound like a complete idiot but who is Pal Joey... Did he do some old house or something? There's a track I want by him I think... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
actually, it's known as the american war of independence From: Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Carl Craig Fired! Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:59:50 -0400 okay. Ive been trying to stay out of it, but this comment has drawn me in. you shouldnt just accept what you read or are spoon fed by the media as truth. theres *always* more to a story than what youre told in the paper. I'm contantly reading the paper with a smirk or scepticism. I always read stories wondering about what it is they're *not* telling us. this is one of those cases. yes there was some behind the scenes stuff going on which was touched upon in the article (way more than you can imagine!) Rememeber this :History is written by the victors. He who controls the information controls the power. In America we have what is called The American Revolution in our history books. I'd bet in the British history books it's called The Colonial Riots or The Colonialist Uprising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired! From The Detroit Free Press: Several of Detroit's pioneering techno musicians met with Craig in April at the office of Derrick May, the Detroit DJ scheduled to play the festival's closing set. They included May, Stacey Pullen and Kevin Saunderson, who asked Craig to include more Detroit artists on the bill. 'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' /// Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was commenting on this list about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't feel it was extremely representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was getting hated on a little. Matter of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic that much at all, which is one that I felt was certainly worth discussing on a 313 list. It's almost as if people didn't want to dare question the holy DEMF and Carl Craig. But now here it is, from the mouth of the prodigal son of techno himself, Mr. Derrick May. And it seems that Carl Craig is on the out and out with this festival anyway. What do y'all think now? - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in Ford's massive ad campaign? Yes! I've noticed and i guess more power to them, but it is quite dis- heartening. where the hell would they put them all? there's like 60 performers! They'd have to be in like 8 point type to fit them all in any sort of print ad. I'm pretty sure it was a conscious decision to list the performers in alphabetical order such that there's no hierarchy of headliners vs supporting acts, so that makes it a little hard for ad designers to pick out a select few to put in an ad. If carl craig, as creative director, had decided to highlight a few performers as headliners, then I'm sure they would've been mentioned in ad campaigns. I know you're all looking for every chance to demonize ford for their involvement, but i think this is more grasping at straws than anything. Why don't you wait and see how things turn out? Then if it sucks afterwards, complain all you want. I might even join in. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Pal Joey?
I don't know what Pal Joey is up to these days, but the NY record label Kool Groove, that released the original Earth People stuff still releases cool sh*t from time to time. I like the Flip Groove releases that came out about a year or more ago. Dope, funky hard house. -J On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote: Hey, I don't want to sound like a complete idiot but who is Pal Joey... Did he do some old house or something? There's a track I want by him I think... yeah, pal joey is a house head. i have some stuff by him at my shelf, very jazzy and quite deep. i'll dig out some info later for you (busy now). btw, does anyone know if he's still out there doing stuff? sakke -- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Pal Joey?
Thanks for the info everybody, So I know he's real:) Now, did who do a track with this guy saying something at the start, kinda introducing the track... something to do with the house conductor and mr earth people himself and some other stuff... It's got this real old school sound to it... Do you know what that track is? Sorry I can't be more specific... No one seems to know who he is around here... I heard Freddy Fresh play it ages ago and I've wanted it ever since... Thanks again, Nick:) --- Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nick Walsh wrote: Hey, I don't want to sound like a complete idiot but who is Pal Joey... Did he do some old house or something? There's a track I want by him I think... yeah, pal joey is a house head. i have some stuff by him at my shelf, very jazzy and quite deep. i'll dig out some info later for you (busy now). btw, does anyone know if he's still out there doing stuff? Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
Thanks Sean, that is exactly the point I was trying to make earlier. We do not have all the facts, maybe Carol Marvin is right, maybe she is trying to jack the festival. We do not really know yet, do we? From: Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Carl Craig Fired! Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:59:50 -0400 okay. Ive been trying to stay out of it, but this comment has drawn me in. you shouldnt just accept what you read or are spoon fed by the media as truth. theres *always* more to a story than what youre told in the paper. I'm contantly reading the paper with a smirk or scepticism. I always read stories wondering about what it is they're *not* telling us. this is one of those cases. yes there was some behind the scenes stuff going on which was touched upon in the article (way more than you can imagine!) Rememeber this :History is written by the victors. He who controls the information controls the power. In America we have what is called The American Revolution in our history books. I'd bet in the British history books it's called The Colonial Riots or The Colonialist Uprising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired! From The Detroit Free Press: Several of Detroit's pioneering techno musicians met with Craig in April at the office of Derrick May, the Detroit DJ scheduled to play the festival's closing set. They included May, Stacey Pullen and Kevin Saunderson, who asked Craig to include more Detroit artists on the bill. 'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' /// Not to say I told you so, but as I recall when I was commenting on this list about the lineup a few weeks ago, saying I didn't feel it was extremely representative of Detroit talent, I feel I was getting hated on a little. Matter of fact, noone really wanted to touch that topic that much at all, which is one that I felt was certainly worth discussing on a 313 list. It's almost as if people didn't want to dare question the holy DEMF and Carl Craig. But now here it is, from the mouth of the prodigal son of techno himself, Mr. Derrick May. And it seems that Carl Craig is on the out and out with this festival anyway. What do y'all think now? - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
commitees = lots of time and no decision. From: Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] carl craig asked to step down! Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT) i was thinking about his whole advisory committee thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look to other areas of the world that use committees to choose. the NCAA and the basketball tournament selection committee begin with parameters for who should make it into the tournament. each member of the selection committee has different ideas and are fans of different teams. however when the committee meets, they use their collective opinion and ideas to select the teams. i think that the artistic worth of future demf line-ups would be better with a committee that represents detroit as opposed to the (right or wrong?) opinion of carl craig. just my opinion...no harm no foul -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
From: Jess Staller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired! Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:00:33 -0400 (EDT) . Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in Ford's massive ad campaign? Perhaps its because they weren't confirmed??? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
But who will be on this commitee, and who will choose those people? Marvin said the role of creative director will be filled next year by an advisory board made up of artists and others in the Detroit techno industry. That's still sort of vague. I can think of other commitees that aren't so good, like the people that choose the Grammy awards. Wasn't it the Beatles and Led Zeppelin among others that never received one? And I remember Jethro Tull winning best metal (or was it hard rock) album over Metallica one year. There's politics involved there I'm sure, and I'd hate for the same happen to the DEMF committee. Kevin --- Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was thinking about his whole advisory committee thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look to other areas of the world that use committees to choose. the NCAA and the basketball tournament selection committee begin with parameters for who should make it into the tournament. each member of the selection committee has different ideas and are fans of different teams. however when the committee meets, they use their collective opinion and ideas to select the teams. i think that the artistic worth of future demf line-ups would be better with a committee that represents detroit as opposed to the (right or wrong?) opinion of carl craig. just my opinion...no harm no foul -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
There's politics involved there I'm sure, and I'd hate for the same happen to the DEMF committee. talking strictly as an outside observer looking in, i'd say there's been a lot of politics involved already, whether just one individual or a commitee. t;) - Original Message - From: Kevin Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down! But who will be on this commitee, and who will choose those people? Marvin said the role of creative director will be filled next year by an advisory board made up of artists and others in the Detroit techno industry. That's still sort of vague. I can think of other commitees that aren't so good, like the people that choose the Grammy awards. Wasn't it the Beatles and Led Zeppelin among others that never received one? And I remember Jethro Tull winning best metal (or was it hard rock) album over Metallica one year. There's politics involved there I'm sure, and I'd hate for the same happen to the DEMF committee. Kevin --- Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was thinking about his whole advisory committee thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look to other areas of the world that use committees to choose. the NCAA and the basketball tournament selection committee begin with parameters for who should make it into the tournament. each member of the selection committee has different ideas and are fans of different teams. however when the committee meets, they use their collective opinion and ideas to select the teams. i think that the artistic worth of future demf line-ups would be better with a committee that represents detroit as opposed to the (right or wrong?) opinion of carl craig. just my opinion...no harm no foul -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
talking strictly as an outside observer looking in, i'd say there's been a lot of politics involved already, whether just one individual or a commitee. True. Imagine the politics involved with a 20 or more person committee with multiple sponsors. yikes :) Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
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[313] DEMF Discussion + Pole on Sonox
Can you all please move the DEMF discussion over to the listgeeks list? That's what it's there for. Subscribe here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you imagine how tedious this must be for people who want to go but can't, or god forbid, don't want to go? Besides that, am I the only one who's sick of hearing the dissection of every detail of the festival? It's gonna be fun. Worry about next year sometime after the middle of June when the afterglow dies down a bit. I got two words for ya: controversy shmontroversy To get some musical content in this post, I'm listening to the relatively new Pole set on Sonox, and it sounds a lot like the set on Betalounge. Anyone else notice this? I suppose they were from relatively similar time periods. Having just typed that, a really nice song I haven't heard kicks in at around 42 minutes in. :) Oh well... Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] grrrrrh!!! where's my 313 mail!!!!
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[313] CKDK club plans...
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Re: Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
Kevin Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: talking strictly as an outside observer looking in, i'd say there's been a lot of politics involved already, whether just one individual or a commitee. After reading the article this morning and a few of the posts lately I find it interesting that so much political wrangling is taking place over a free festival aimed a benefiting the parks dept. I could see if this was a ticketed event and there was a concern over the event breaking even let alone making a profit. I agree that it is too soon to start pointing fingers at anyone SFX, Carol, or Derrick. I actually think the best thing everyone should do at this point is fire an email to Carl and thank him for all his efforts. He obviously took some risks with the line up this year and offered something unexpected. That's the role of an artistic director. Did he think there would be controversy over it, probably. I have a feeling though that something else is going on. dave ironic prediction, t-1000 will be on the 'commitee' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CKDK club plans...
It will be more than just a club, it will be a super entertainment complex I don't know why, but that just sounds funny. I'm picturing Dunk the DJ right now :) Sounds like a cool idea though. Isn't the Guvernment in Toronto like that, multiple rooms with different DJ's/genres? I've never been there myself, but friends have told me it's pretty nice. Kevin --- Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.detroitfreepress.com/entertainment/music/rach11_20010511.htm _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Discussion + Pole on Sonox
Can you all please move the DEMF discussion over to the listgeeks list? That's what it's there for. Subscribe here: talking about a detroit electronic music festival on a detroit electronis music mailing list is so very off-topic. can we please go back to talking about george bush and whether or not we're allowed to mention gear? thanks, because i wouldn't want to alienate any subscribers. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] carl craig out of DEMF?
Sorry about this but my hotmail account went down about the time I found this out What's going on with this? What's the talk right now? Email me privately to avoid annoying others if need be. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ectomorph at the big wig review
well, well, well. still figuring if i should make this a long or short review. hmmm. i'll make it short; no point bantering where there is enough banter already :p tommy sunshine. last night was my first taste of him and i must say that his set was quite refreshing, filling my ears with lovely synth pop, prog rock, radiohead, electro, freaky acid house, what have ya. smooth smooth cabana dj. ectomorph. made me dance like a robot, pop-lockin my rusty joints. although i must say that i think their tracks are better than them live, but then again their records don't display a girl in vinyl swinging around torches in the air and putting them out with her tongue. watching one of them play with a gameboy (nanoloop?) for one of their tracks was a nice touch as well. magda. absolutely tight electro set. big wig system, subb subbb subbb par, but i've been there so many times, my expectations have always been rather low. overall, $5 dollar donation, muzak + performance, expensive drinks, people to be a jackass with.. . nice night :) your gutted monkey -choppie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
i think it should be a commitee made up of The Martiananyone who has recorded under that name can be on the commitee if you ask me... lets get rid of politics and drama jeff -Original Message- From: Kevin Conrad [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 9:51 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down! But who will be on this commitee, and who will choose those people? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
it was hard rock and the look of surprise on ian andersons face(lol). and it was really interesting to see the awards comm give metallica a token award I forget it was best new artist I think. (when they had already been a band for 8 years.) lars had some funny comments on that fiasco. Scott Laakso --- --- imajin/ imagine http://www.mp3.com/i_majin http://www.ampcast.com/imagine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] The vultures move in...
A quote from the Freep article: ...city officials say Craig failed to meet city-imposed deadlines requiring contracts for artists who are scheduled to perform Memorial Day weekend. The city, which co-presents the Hart Plaza festival, requests 30 days for processing the deposits made to artists to secure their appearances. Those payments can run in the tens of thousands of dollars. No matter which way you look at it, this alone is not sufficient ground for firing a creative director of such a successful festival. Two possible explanations: 1) He did a lot more things wrong than this that they want to keep the lid on for his and the festival's benefit or 2) they were looking for a way to get rid of him and now they've found a reason. My money is (obviously) on the second explanation, since it so obviously reeks of media manipulation. Paraphrasing the article: Carl didn't do the organizing side of the lineup well (the contracts) and he didn't do the content side well (not enough Detroit on the lineup), can you blame us for booting such an incompetent guy? Bollocks to that. Any bets on the chance that next year SFX and 89x will be on the ...advisory board made up of artists and others in the Detroit techno industry. Note the 'others'... Cynically yours, Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Discussion + Pole on Sonox
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: talking about a detroit electronic music festival on a detroit electronis music mailing list is so very off-topic. I'm not trying to say it's off-topic at all. I'm saying there's an alternate list with 82 subscribers who have been considerate enough to take the discussion elsewhere in an attempt to reduce the number of emails on 313. The volume on this list is not always this heavy. Last year the same thing happened. This year we have a better option because Gil was good enough to set it up for us. It's a matter of consideration, not rules. Here, have some Grey Poupon. :) Chris, let's kiss and make up now OK? I think you've probably got your payback in at this point. And if you feel the need to reply, do it off-list. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] People from Good Homes/Neptune
In efforts to concentrate on something positive: http://www.detroitcontemporary.com/homes.html anyone know Neptune's hours on Sunday? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] re: vogel / dave clarke
the only reason he won the Essential Mix of the Year award is because T-1000 didn't get invited by Pete Tong (thong?) to do the radio show. jeff -Original Message- From: Gary Girard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 5:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: RE: [313] re: vogel / dave clarke Derrick May described D.C as having the biggest balls in Techno. Dave also won Essential Mix of the year for 2000. Explain to me how he could win that if he doesn't know how to mix? The fuse club CD is brilliant, the Electro Boogie CD is brilliant, his Essential Mixes are brilliant, nearly everything he's produced is brilliant and I'm sure his new CD will be, erm brilliant! : ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Track ID - reeeeal easy one.
Ok... Around 1994-1995 there was a track that made the playlists of just about every ghetto tech DJ's play list in Detroit. It had a repeating sample from Kraftwerk's Boing, Boom Tschak (Tschak) which led everyone to call the song Chuck, Chuck. Who made it, and what was it really called? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID - reeeeal easy one.
Perhaps you're talking about the record by Detrechno? No track listing on the record. -Sho -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Track ID - ral easy one. Ok... Around 1994-1995 there was a track that made the playlists of just about every ghetto tech DJ's play list in Detroit. It had a repeating sample from Kraftwerk's Boing, Boom Tschak (Tschak) which led everyone to call the song Chuck, Chuck. Who made it, and what was it really called? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ectomorph at the big wig review
carlos souffront rocked the house too with some classic and far-out techno mixed to perfection :) ectomorph was doing more new experimental stuff instead of playing the hit tunes- but it was definitely interesting and fun. p On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Khemma wrote: well, well, well. still figuring if i should make this a long or short review. hmmm. i'll make it short; no point bantering where there is enough banter already :p tommy sunshine. last night was my first taste of him and i must say that his set was quite refreshing, filling my ears with lovely synth pop, prog rock, radiohead, electro, freaky acid house, what have ya. smooth smooth cabana dj. ectomorph. made me dance like a robot, pop-lockin my rusty joints. although i must say that i think their tracks are better than them live, but then again their records don't display a girl in vinyl swinging around torches in the air and putting them out with her tongue. watching one of them play with a gameboy (nanoloop?) for one of their tracks was a nice touch as well. magda. absolutely tight electro set. big wig system, subb subbb subbb par, but i've been there so many times, my expectations have always been rather low. overall, $5 dollar donation, muzak + performance, expensive drinks, people to be a jackass with.. . nice night :) your gutted monkey -choppie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID - reeeeal easy one.
Cool! Just plugged that into Yahoo and came up with it, Chuck by Detrechno. Thanks! Sho Kuwamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/11/2001 04:16:27 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: [313] Track ID - ral easy one. Perhaps you're talking about the record by Detrechno? No track listing on the record. -Sho -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Track ID - ral easy one. Ok... Around 1994-1995 there was a track that made the playlists of just about every ghetto tech DJ's play list in Detroit. It had a repeating sample from Kraftwerk's Boing, Boom Tschak (Tschak) which led everyone to call the song Chuck, Chuck. Who made it, and what was it really called? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] the real story on carl craig the demf
don't believe everything you hear... (rant begin) ask yourself this: -do you think carl craig was lazy and didn't bother trying to get contracts from the *few* artists that he could not get in contact with? -do you think last year *all* of the artists' contracts were given to the city in a timely manner? -what if carl did do his job, but other people did not in order to make him look bad and have an excuse to get rid of him and turn the festival into an entirely corporate event? -and how easy would it be for them to do this? -and how much would they profit from doing this? -and would this make it easier to have a lineup with more names like oakenfold, daft punk, chemical bros (acts that will bring in $$$), and less locals and up-and-coming artists that need exposure? -and doesn't it seem funny that last year they were happy to have carl heavily involved in the festival (which gave credibility to the event), but now something like paperwork is enough to get rid of him? this has nothing to do with artist contracts or carl's competency or work ethic. it has to do with a corporation tarnishing a man's reputation in order to have total control over an event that will make them money. and that is what's going on. period. (rant over) ani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID - reeeeal easy one.
I thought that record was actually called The Jit, or was that one Sole Waves. Someone clarify... -J Cool! Just plugged that into Yahoo and came up with it, Chuck by Detrechno. Thanks! Sho Kuwamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/11/2001 04:16:27 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: [313] Track ID - ral easy one. Perhaps you're talking about the record by Detrechno? No track listing on the record. -Sho -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Track ID - ral easy one. Ok... Around 1994-1995 there was a track that made the playlists of just about every ghetto tech DJ's play list in Detroit. It had a repeating sample from Kraftwerk's Boing, Boom Tschak (Tschak) which led everyone to call the song Chuck, Chuck. Who made it, and what was it really called? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] No Subject
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[313] wax tax 5-11-01
does anyone know the track wax tax'n'dre spun inbetween work it and shake it? everyone has heard it before. it has this guitar running through the whole thing. thanks for the help. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Track ID - reeeeal easy one.
Sole Tech on Detrechno records Sole Waves Chuck Mix - 1995 These guys disappeared very underrated, excellent detroit techno bass rc on 12/5/01 7:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that record was actually called The Jit, or was that one Sole Waves. Someone clarify... -J Cool! Just plugged that into Yahoo and came up with it, Chuck by Detrechno. Thanks! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] U R - THE POWER
Well, that's all good in theory, but the problem with turning something popular, is that they don't need us anymore. private this is not about religionz but - don´t you stop believing even if we can´t move nothing in the end to try it is the only thing we always can do believing - can move any mountain be - leaving the isolation be a living thing m lvpltz2448 -- --- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Derrick May an arrogant prick! Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
art is imitation--this doesnt mean that people dont imitate unconsciously or indirectly on deeper levels-- who's arrogant or just simply in a bad mood here? every ripple has its source! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' I was going to point out this quote as well... who the hell on that lineup does derrick may consider an imitator? True, it's not detroit talent. But I don't see anyone on there that I'd even remotely call a detroit imitator. It almost sounds like he's trying to imply that anything not from detroit is inherently an imitation. I'd like to think he doesn't have his head that far up his ass, but it's hard to see what else he'd mean. True, the lineup isn't as representative of detroit talent as it was last year, but I'd hardly call anyone on there an imitator. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
lars had some funny comments on that fiasco. not as funny as the crowds reaction at the MTV awards this year when shawn fanning came on stage...hahahaha the miserable boring old napster hating corporate whore rock dinosaur... - Original Message - From: Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down! it was hard rock and the look of surprise on ian andersons face(lol). and it was really interesting to see the awards comm give metallica a token award I forget it was best new artist I think. (when they had already been a band for 8 years.) lars had some funny comments on that fiasco. Scott Laakso --- --- imajin/ imagine http://www.mp3.com/i_majin http://www.ampcast.com/imagine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Discussion + Pole on Sonox
this is getting out of hand - how many mailing lists exactly do i have to subscribe to now? - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Discussion + Pole on Sonox --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: talking about a detroit electronic music festival on a detroit electronis music mailing list is so very off-topic. I'm not trying to say it's off-topic at all. I'm saying there's an alternate list with 82 subscribers who have been considerate enough to take the discussion elsewhere in an attempt to reduce the number of emails on 313. The volume on this list is not always this heavy. Last year the same thing happened. This year we have a better option because Gil was good enough to set it up for us. It's a matter of consideration, not rules. Here, have some Grey Poupon. :) Chris, let's kiss and make up now OK? I think you've probably got your payback in at this point. And if you feel the need to reply, do it off-list. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Pal Joey?
Great to see Pal being talked up! Yes to all...he s behind house conductor, earth people But most noteably SOHO Hot Music...and Drum Major (featured on a new comp by the attica blues guys) And remixes for Sade, Delight and The Orb little Fluffy Clouds Hes got stuff out currently (DanceTracks)and is still producing and running his various lables (loop d loop, caberet and foot stompin)...all grea tstuff i think. He be happy to know people are discussing him! I'll pass along the props. He s always into spinning , so if someones looking to book him, get in touch and ill give you his contact info. Peace! _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CKDK club plans...
h...it sounds a lot like the corporate clubs we have here in the uk (ministry of sound, cream etc) and i gotta say - they really suck. something is lost when you make the move to large, expensive purpose built venues - if only that more often than not creative decisions have to be curtailed in order to bring in more punters to cover vast overheads... - Original Message - From: Kevin Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [313] CKDK club plans... It will be more than just a club, it will be a super entertainment complex I don't know why, but that just sounds funny. I'm picturing Dunk the DJ right now :) Sounds like a cool idea though. Isn't the Guvernment in Toronto like that, multiple rooms with different DJ's/genres? I've never been there myself, but friends have told me it's pretty nice. Kevin --- Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.detroitfreepress.com/entertainment/music/rach11_20010511.htm _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
