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2002-02-04 Thread Aidan O'Doherty



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[313] vinyl freaks after hard to find chit

2002-02-04 Thread Minto George

Hey howdy! Anyone after some rare vinyl? I'm letting
go of a ton of records from my collection. Here's the
first batch of stuff I'm letting go of:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsuserid=toedawginclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=25

The very hard to find Axis 006 Drama EP HM (Rob Hood
and Jeff Mills), Richie's Dimension Intrusion LP on
Plus 8 (the best shit Richie ever did imo), C2 Lite
Music, Juan's last 2 LPs, an old Sterac on 100%
Pure(letting go of Osirion later this week too!), and
an old John Foxx project called Nation 12 on Rhythm
King. much much more comng soon so I'll let ya'll
know! 

Anyone know what to expect from the new stuff by
Brennan Green? He's got something coming out on
Selway's CSM label today called Downstreamers. Danny
Wang works with the guy on music too. He's from
Toronto? What's the word? Heard he's got upcoming
stuff on nuphonic too.

hasta folks - minto



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Re: [313] vinyl freaks after hard to find chit

2002-02-04 Thread jkessler

 Anyone know what to expect from the new stuff by
 Brennan Green? He's got something coming out on
 Selway's CSM label today called Downstreamers. Danny
 Wang works with the guy on music too. He's from
 Toronto? What's the word? Heard he's got upcoming
 stuff on nuphonic too.
 
 hasta folks - minto

Another Downstreamers record on CSM? He had one that came out on 
that label awhile ago. Brennan works at Sonic Groove in NY and, yeah, is 
partnered with Danny Wang who he's been doing trax with. They did some 
nice stuff that will be released on Nuphonic at some point soon, but don't 
know exactly when yet. Talented producer and DJ. And yeah, he hails from 
Toronto originally.

-J

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[313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:56 AM
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Subject: What's in a name?


One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
Magazine, UK).
Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of this? The name was
Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the writer's part? Now
that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, why the first
attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time I don't mention
the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already out there too.
Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.

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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i
hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn my
copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo, the
secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is reposible for one of
the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the persons (together
with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key components in the
deportation and then extermination of the Jews.

Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he disappeared and was
never brought to justice!

To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why to use Mueller
as an alias...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in 
 Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
 Magazine, UK).
 Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
 feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of 
 this? The name was
 Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the 
 writer's part? Now
 that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, 
 why the first
 attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time 
 I don't mention
 the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already 
 out there too.
 Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.

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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
It's a strange thing to do, non? It could be a piece of (very) black humour;
it could be a clue ... It could be a way of saying that this name needs to
be repeated every ten years or so  been anywhere in Germany lately?
(Especially Bavaria). Unsettling is the word.

-Original Message-
From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:47 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?


I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i
hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn my
copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo, the
secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is reposible
for one of
the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the persons
(together
with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key components in the
deportation and then extermination of the Jews.

Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he disappeared and was
never brought to justice!

To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why to use Mueller
as an alias...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
 Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
 Magazine, UK).
 Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
 feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
 this? The name was
 Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
 writer's part? Now
 that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
 why the first
 attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
 I don't mention
 the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
 out there too.
 Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.

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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Gwendal Cobert
on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / Müller is quite
a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
 To: '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?


 I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
 name, well i
 hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
 i will burn my
 copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
 Gestapo, the
 secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
 reposible for one of
 the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
 persons (together
 with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
 components in the
 deportation and then extermination of the Jews.

 Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
 disappeared and was
 never brought to justice!

 To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
 Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
 to use Mueller
 as an alias...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
  Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
  Magazine, UK).
  Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
  feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
  this? The name was
  Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
  writer's part? Now
  that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
  why the first
  attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
  I don't mention
  the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
  out there too.
  Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.

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Re:Re[2]: [313] about the members

2002-02-04 Thread ataxia


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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi symbols on
them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which appaered on the
Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him why he named
one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to sterilize the
population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly disabled had to be
sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that time on  i always
had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / 
 Müller is quite
 a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
 Gwendal
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
  To: '313@hyperreal.org'
  Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 
  I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
  name, well i
  hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
  i will burn my
  copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
  Gestapo, the
  secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
  reposible for one of
  the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
  persons (together
  with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
  components in the
  deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
 
  Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
  disappeared and was
  never brought to justice!
 
  To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
  Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
  to use Mueller
  as an alias...
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
   Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
   Magazine, UK).
   Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
   feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
   this? The name was
   Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
   writer's part? Now
   that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
   why the first
   attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
   I don't mention
   the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
   out there too.
   Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.
 
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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
imagery, but it is just too much not to be second-degree... as far as I
know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and
imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas
fit in the Gigolos stable ?
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?


 Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
 symbols on
 them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
 appaered on the
 Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
 why he named
 one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
 sterilize the
 population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
 disabled had to be
 sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
 time on  i always
 had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
  Müller is quite
  a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
  Gwendal
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
   To: '313@hyperreal.org'
   Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
  
  
   I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
   name, well i
   hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
   i will burn my
   copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
   Gestapo, the
   secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
   reposible for one of
   the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
   persons (together
   with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
   components in the
   deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
  
   Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
   disappeared and was
   never brought to justice!
  
   To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
   Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
   to use Mueller
   as an alias...
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
Magazine, UK).
Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
this? The name was
Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
writer's part? Now
that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
why the first
attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
I don't mention
the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
out there too.
Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.
  
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Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Berislav



 I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i
 hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn
my
 copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo,

maybe im wrong, and it is defenitlly offtopic, but the head of gestapo was
Heinrich Himmler
and Adolf Eichman was transportation menager, not that he is not gulity for
crimes, afterall, he hanged for that, master plan was Hitler`s work and
about all that nazi sh**, you will always find sombody enough stupid who
will claim that something from that time was right

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RE: [313] What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Benn Glazier
Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from' 
countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies, that 
is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom.


Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship.  Something else that comes 
to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR and 
China depicted.  Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for 
many years.


Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk'' 
translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the 
definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as 
opposed to it's general or chemical definition.


Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian.  Then again, 
I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit 
farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west.


Some interesting points of discussion to think about.

However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt = 
Japanese Telecom.




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At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote:

Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
imagery, but it is just too much not to be second-degree... as far as I
know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and
imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas
fit in the Gigolos stable ?
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?


 Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
 symbols on
 them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
 appaered on the
 Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
 why he named
 one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
 sterilize the
 population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
 disabled had to be
 sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
 time on  i always
 had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
  Müller is quite
  a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
  Gwendal
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
   To: '313@hyperreal.org'
   Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
  
  
   I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
   name, well i
   hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
   i will burn my
   copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
   Gestapo, the
   secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
   reposible for one of
   the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
   persons (together
   with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
   components in the
   deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
  
   Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
   disappeared and was
   never brought to justice!
  
   To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
   Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
   to use Mueller
   as an alias...
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
Magazine, UK).
Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
this? The name was
Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
writer's part? Now
that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
why the first
attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
I don't mention
the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
out there too.
Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.


Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread jkessler
I always interpreted the Dopplereffekt ethos as a sort of piss-take on 
Fascist ideology and sarcastic social commentary; much in the same vein 
as Slovenian Industrial group Laibach, who explored similar themes. 

Nonetheless, it's some pretty out-there stuff. But I think you have to realize 
it's coming from a very wierd Black dude from Detroit. I would be kind of 
worried if it was like some straight up German guys doing that stuff.

-J

on 2/4/02 4:13 AM, Jongsma, K.J. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi symbols 
on
 them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which appaered on 
the
 Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him why 
he named
 one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to sterilize the
 population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly disabled had to 
be
 sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that time on  i 
always
 had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / 
 Müller is quite
 a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
 Gwendal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
 To: '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 
 I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
 name, well i
 hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
 i will burn my
 copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
 Gestapo, the
 secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
 reposible for one of
 the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
 persons (together
 with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
 components in the
 deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
 
 Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
 disappeared and was
 never brought to justice!
 
 To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
 Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
 to use Mueller
 as an alias...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
 Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
 Magazine, UK).
 Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
 feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
 this? The name was
 Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
 writer's part? Now
 that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
 why the first
 attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
 I don't mention
 the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
 out there too.
 Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.
 
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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
 
 maybe im wrong, and it is defenitlly offtopic, but the head 
 of gestapo was
 Heinrich Himmler

Wasn't Himmler head of the SS? i am kinda sure Mueler was head of the
Gestapo. Yeah, yeah i know this is off-topic...

 and Adolf Eichman was transportation menager, not that he is 
 not gulity for
 crimes, afterall, he hanged for that, master plan was 
 Hitler`s work and
 about all that nazi sh**, you will always find sombody enough 
 stupid who
 will claim that something from that time was right


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RE: [313] What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
At risk of 'posting too much' ... Can I perhaps draw the thread a little
back to specifics? The name was Heinrich Meuller. Now, many appear to think
this is an alias ... anyone agree? Also, I think we can start to discount
the Nazi allusions ... the 'Heinrich' part earlier triggered a mistaken
suggestion that we were referring to a notorious Nazi official, Himmler.

-Original Message-
From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:43 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] What's in a name?


Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from'
countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies,
that
is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom.

Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship.  Something else that
comes
to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR
and
China depicted.  Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for

many years.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk''
translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the
definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as

opposed to it's general or chemical definition.

Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian.  Then
again,
I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit

farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west.

Some interesting points of discussion to think about.

However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt =
Japanese Telecom.



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At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote:
Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
imagery, but it is just too much not to be second-degree... as far as
I
know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans
and
imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such
ideas
fit in the Gigolos stable ?
Gwendal

  -Original Message-
  From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 
  Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
  symbols on
  them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
  appaered on the
  Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
  why he named
  one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
  sterilize the
  population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
  disabled had to be
  sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
  time on  i always
  had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
   Müller is quite
   a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
   Gwendal
  
-Original Message-
From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
   
   
I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
name, well i
hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
i will burn my
copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
Gestapo, the
secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
reposible for one of
the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
persons (together
with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
components in the
deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
   
Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
disappeared and was
never brought to justice!
   
To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on
the
Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
to use Mueller
as an alias...
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
 Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
 Magazine, UK).
 Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
 feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
 this? The name was
 Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
 writer's part? Now
 that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
 why the first
 attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
 I don't mention
 the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
 out there too.
 Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.


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RE: [313] What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Benn Glazier
Please refer to google.com or britannica.com for information regarding 
Messers Mueller and Himmler.



r./


At 10:13 04/02/2002 +, you wrote:

At risk of 'posting too much' ... Can I perhaps draw the thread a little
back to specifics? The name was Heinrich Meuller. Now, many appear to think
this is an alias ... anyone agree? Also, I think we can start to discount
the Nazi allusions ... the 'Heinrich' part earlier triggered a mistaken
suggestion that we were referring to a notorious Nazi official, Himmler.

-Original Message-
From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:43 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] What's in a name?


Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from'
countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies,
that
is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom.

Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship.  Something else that
comes
to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR
and
China depicted.  Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for

many years.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk''
translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the
definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as

opposed to it's general or chemical definition.

Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian.  Then
again,
I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit

farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west.

Some interesting points of discussion to think about.

However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt =
Japanese Telecom.



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At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote:
Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
imagery, but it is just too much not to be second-degree... as far as
I
know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans
and
imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such
ideas
fit in the Gigolos stable ?
Gwendal

  -Original Message-
  From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 
  Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
  symbols on
  them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
  appaered on the
  Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
  why he named
  one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
  sterilize the
  population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
  disabled had to be
  sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
  time on  i always
  had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
   Müller is quite
   a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
   Gwendal
  
-Original Message-
From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
   
   
I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
name, well i
hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
i will burn my
copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
Gestapo, the
secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
reposible for one of
the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
persons (together
with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
components in the
deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
   
Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
disappeared and was
never brought to justice!
   
To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on
the
Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
to use Mueller
as an alias...
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
 Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
 Magazine, UK).
 Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
 feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
 this? The name was
 Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
 writer's part? Now
 that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
 why the first
 attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
 I don't mention
 the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
 out there too.
 Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.


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Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread jonathan morse


On Monday, February 4, 2002, at 04:27 AM, Gwendal Cobert wrote:


I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas
fit in the Gigolos stable ?
Gwendal





you must not have the chris korda and the church of euthanasia release 
then...


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[313] Swayzak defeats the Tech-House yuk

2002-02-04 Thread Michael D Tyrer
Decisions. decisions . we decided to hit Fabric on Saturday night -
amazingly walked straight in without a queue (at which time still a 100 odd
people in the guest list queue)  I wondered if this was what Tech-house had
finally brought us to ... but true to form Fabric was squashed to the
rafters, although I did spot room for a sardine or two on top of the
speakers...
Fat Terry Francis was playing the Intec Room when we arrived .. i'll
describe his set in one word: boring.  I could describe it in ten words but
it would just be repetitive, boring,boring,boring,boring.  What the hell was
he doing in the Intec room.
We went upstairs to the third room, where Swayzak had just finished his DJ
set.  He was due back on for a live 'set' in an hour.  So after a wonder
around we came back to hear this.
I've got to say initially i was not over impressed, but I was definately
caught there intrested by the acidic, squelching noises being over laid on
the top of the tunes which were spinning.  About 10 minutes in three of us
were looking at one another, pulling faces suggesting .. this wasnt doing it
for us either.  One of my m8s said he was off for a wander.  The other two
of us agreed we would come with... but we didnt and I've got to say that at
the end we thought it had been really great and enjoyable.  The pace of the
set was about 122bpm (yeah, sicko .. i counted it) but it was a really good
funky electro set with hints of 80s vocal accapellas laid over the top.
This should have been the opening set of the Intec room.
We followed up listening to C1 - so for all the doubters there was Techno
played in London on Saturday night.  A good interesting set.  I wouldnt say
the guy was brilliant but he kept our interest (138bpm) was the pace and it
wasnt boring.  I'd certainly go and listen to him again but at this stage I
dont think i would travel the country to hear him play.  In fairness I'd
like to hear him play in a club where there may be some crowd reaction (ie
out of london) but them tek-housas don't know how to yip and yell and show
some appreciation.
Trevor Rockcliffe came on to finish the last two and a half hours , he
started well and kept it going but somehow lost his groove towards the end,
that kept us going till 6.30 am and now there was only the main room left
 Craig Richards (i think).  I hate being repetitive but what can I say
 boring, boring, boring.
You know at one time I thought the Tech-house was a cool sound, after a diet
of somewhat non-stop maniac Techno, it was a sort of groovy swaying, but it
never went anywhere and after a couple of months it was confirmed yeuk.

I havent put my 0.02p worth in yet on About the Members thread ... but i
am keen to try and start a regular Saturday night proper techno night.  My
promotional endeavours so far havent been too successful and i've done
bucket loads of money but I'm still searching for a venue at the moment, and
if I can get that sorted  well the spirit is willing 

Looking forward to hearing Oliver Ho this Thursday down Ultimate Base.



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 at 35:20 into the 6 hr set

 Heard it a lot and don't know what it is.

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Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Courthouse Int'l Audio
Maybe...
maybe it's all just about making people stop and think harder for a moment.
Think like for example Cybotron's Cosmic car... No shiny car = No beatiful
girl.

If you understand what I mean.


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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread Jonny McIntosh
  About music -- new Theo Parrish -- was playing in the store yesterday
  Dirty Rhodes track -- does it get any better than this?  Brilliant
  minimal jazzy deep house... on the one hand very loopy, on the other
  constantly changing up in subtle ways, and throughout rubbing your
  ears with that slightly distorted gritty Rhodes -- like double ought
  sandpaper buffing your brain to a shine...

 I actually thought this was a bit of treading water for Theo- I still
liked
 it but not enough to buy it

I picked this up, too. Maybe not quite as strong as some other releases, but
still, for me anyway, head and shoulders above most. I had a bit of a
nightmare yesterday with it, though: whilst I was in bed with a hangover, my
girlfriend's dad came round and built some shelves. He didn't move the
records underneath first, though, and they got covered in brick dust! I
managed to save most of them (especially the Love Hangover) but the new
Theo, Nathan Haines Earth Is The Place and Barry's Music Maestro Please
got it bad - though with Dirt Rhodes it's hard to tell whether it's
properly fucked or if it was like that in that first place. If this ever
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[313] about the members; how many members???

2002-02-04 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
I am beginning to wonder how many members there are on this list anyway?

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Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Michael D Tyrer
Mueller is a very v common german name today; i never met anyone being too
embarrased about being called mueller


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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread james boylan

I bought two Sound Signatures recently...both of them excellent.

One had an orange, white and blue label - a Theo Parrish collobaration with 
some other dude whose name escapes me.


And the other was called Violet Green by someone whose name also escpaes me.

Can anyone recommend other Sound Signature/Theo Parrish stuff worth getting 
and anything by the Violet Green composer that might be good too.


Thanks.



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  About music -- new Theo Parrish -- was playing in the store yesterday
  Dirty Rhodes track -- does it get any better than this?  Brilliant
  minimal jazzy deep house... on the one hand very loopy, on the other
  constantly changing up in subtle ways, and throughout rubbing your
  ears with that slightly distorted gritty Rhodes -- like double ought
  sandpaper buffing your brain to a shine...

 I actually thought this was a bit of treading water for Theo- I still
liked
 it but not enough to buy it

I picked this up, too. Maybe not quite as strong as some other releases, 
but

still, for me anyway, head and shoulders above most. I had a bit of a
nightmare yesterday with it, though: whilst I was in bed with a hangover, 
my

girlfriend's dad came round and built some shelves. He didn't move the
records underneath first, though, and they got covered in brick dust! I
managed to save most of them (especially the Love Hangover) but the new
Theo, Nathan Haines Earth Is The Place and Barry's Music Maestro Please
got it bad - though with Dirt Rhodes it's hard to tell whether it's
properly fucked or if it was like that in that first place. If this ever
happens to you: don't brush it off, run it under the cold tap.



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[313] Re: Dopplereffekt identity?

2002-02-04 Thread diana potts


 Dopplereffekt, I always thought, is a Detroiter named
Gerald (don't know his last name), who used to be a
member of Ectomorph and in and out of Drexciya too (I
-think- on the latter) and his girlfriend (sorry to
refer to her that way but I don't know her name). I
have a picture of him (if I am making the right
connection) doing one of the last PAs he would do with
Brendan as Ectomorph at the release party for Beyond
The Third Wave.


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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread Phonopsia
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 003 3 Chairs Revisited - KDJ, Rick Wilhite  Theo
 004 Pieces of a paradox - for Dusty Cabinets
 006 Overyohead/Dance Of The Drunken Drums - both are 2 of his best tracks.
 010 I Can Take It - remix of Recloose's I Can't Take It
 013 Sons Of Osiris/Violet Green - for that saxophone bit

I'd add Parallel Dimension to this list, if just to get Reaction to Plastic
and second the votes for 6, 10 + 13. Wish I had the others.

 Also essential is the black First Floor with the superb Heal Yourself 
 Move. As I say, I think it's all worth picking up, though. AFAIK, the
other
 guy on the blue and blue labelled record (Essential Selections), Marcellus
 Pittman, hasn't done anything else.

I prefer the white First Floor Metaphor on Peacefrog myself. At $25/each,
I couldn't afford both, and I already had the track from Baby Steps that was
re-released on the black one. I've played out 4 of the tracks on the white
one. It's tasty. :)

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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread Mxyzptlk




 003 3 Chairs Revisited - KDJ, Rick Wilhite  Theo
 004 Pieces of a paradox - for Dusty Cabinets
 006 Overyohead/Dance Of The Drunken Drums - both are 2 of his best tracks.
 010 I Can Take It - remix of Recloose's I Can't Take It
 013 Sons Of Osiris/Violet Green - for that saxophone bit

I'd add Parallel Dimension to this list, if just to get Reaction to Plastic
and second the votes for 6, 10 + 13. Wish I had the others.


Haven't they just been or aren't they about to be repressed? I've seen a 
whole slew of SS 12s on a recent email order update I get.

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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread rob webb

Jonny:


Also essential is the black First Floor with the superb Heal Yourself 
Move.


i'm with Jonny on this one, tho the track that does it for me is Dark 
Patterns which is exclusive to First Floor i believe.




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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread robin pinning

 Jonny:

 Also essential is the black First Floor with the superb Heal Yourself 
 Move.

 i'm with Jonny on this one, tho the track that does it for me is Dark
 Patterns which is exclusive to First Floor i believe.

is that not on an elevate release? could be wrong as a crap spotter (eh
rob?)

yeah Heal Yourself  Move is class

oh yeah SS sound samples at

http://www.bassics.de/soundsignature.html

you can hear Sawala Sayale on there

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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread rob webb

me:


 i'm with Jonny on this one, tho the track that does it for me is Dark
 Patterns which is exclusive to First Floor i believe.


robin:


is that not on an elevate release?


it's not on the Baby Steps ep, and i'm pretty sure he's not released owt 
else on Elevate.



could be wrong as a crap spotter (eh
rob?)


heheh, i never called you a crap spotter mate... not in public anyways. ;)  
still, if it walks like a duck... heh.




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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !

2002-02-04 Thread robin pinning
   i'm with Jonny on this one, tho the track that does it for me is Dark
   Patterns which is exclusive to First Floor i believe.

 robin:

 is that not on an elevate release?

 it's not on the Baby Steps ep, and i'm pretty sure he's not released owt
 else on Elevate.

ok, showed meself up againin public this time d'oh

 could be wrong as a crap spotter (eh
 rob?)

 heheh, i never called you a crap spotter mate... not in public anyways. ;)
 still, if it walks like a duck... heh.

quack quack

lol

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Re: [313] MUSIC? THEO !track list stuff up

2002-02-04 Thread Sam Karmel

Just wondering?

On my copy of the sound signature sounds cd on the
back of the cd the tracklisting is as follows.

1. Shadow Dancing
2. Moonlight
3. Ebonics
4. Dan Ryan (feat. Jerrald James)
5. Dance Of The Drunken Drums
6. Lake Shore Drive
7. Took Me All The Way Back
8. Lost Keys
9. Music Pt. 1
10. Dusty Cabinets

although in the inner sleeve the tracklisting is...

1. Shadow dancing
2. Music Pt.1
3. Ebonics
4. Dan Ryan
5. Dance on the Drunken Drums
6. Took Me All The Way Back
7. Lake Shore Drive
8. Carpet People Dont Drink Steak Soda
9. Lost Keys
10. Night of the Sagitarius 

The first tracklisting is the right one but why is
there a false tracklisting on the inner sleeve

the conspiracy must be solved or..

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Re: [313] Re: Dopplereffekt identity?

2002-02-04 Thread bart wolff
Well...scan the picture and put it on the list...the mysterie of at least 
one of the drexciya members is known AND this whole mueller/signor 
coconut/dopplereffect/etc thing is solved...


My worthless two pfennigen...eeeh...euro-cents...



From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Re: Dopplereffekt identity?
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 04:55:58 -0800 (PST)



 Dopplereffekt, I always thought, is a Detroiter named
Gerald (don't know his last name), who used to be a
member of Ectomorph and in and out of Drexciya too (I
-think- on the latter) and his girlfriend (sorry to
refer to her that way but I don't know her name). I
have a picture of him (if I am making the right
connection) doing one of the last PAs he would do with
Brendan as Ectomorph at the release party for Beyond
The Third Wave.


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Re: [313] Re: Dopplereffekt identity?

2002-02-04 Thread Dan Sicko
Shoot ... Gerald's been on the cover (or back cover?) of 
Dopplereffekt 7s ... that much isn't a mystery anyway!  :)


-d

At 2:52 PM +0100 2/4/2002, bart wolff wrote:
Well...scan the picture and put it on the list...the mysterie of at 
least one of the drexciya members is known AND this whole 
mueller/signor coconut/dopplereffect/etc thing is solved...


My worthless two pfennigen...eeeh...euro-cents...


From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Re: Dopplereffekt identity?
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 04:55:58 -0800 (PST)



 Dopplereffekt, I always thought, is a Detroiter named
Gerald (don't know his last name), who used to be a
member of Ectomorph and in and out of Drexciya too (I
-think- on the latter) and his girlfriend (sorry to
refer to her that way but I don't know her name). I
have a picture of him (if I am making the right
connection) doing one of the last PAs he would do with
Brendan as Ectomorph at the release party for Beyond
The Third Wave.


 d

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Re: [313] Re: Dopplereffekt identity?

2002-02-04 Thread Data General
and he played a live set in Detroit last year.


ben


On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Dan Sicko wrote:

 Shoot ... Gerald's been on the cover (or back cover?) of
 Dopplereffekt 7s ... that much isn't a mystery anyway!  :)

 -d

 At 2:52 PM +0100 2/4/2002, bart wolff wrote:
 Well...scan the picture and put it on the list...the mysterie of at
 least one of the drexciya members is known AND this whole
 mueller/signor coconut/dopplereffect/etc thing is solved...
 
 My worthless two pfennigen...eeeh...euro-cents...
 
 From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] Re: Dopplereffekt identity?
 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 04:55:58 -0800 (PST)
 
 
 
   Dopplereffekt, I always thought, is a Detroiter named
 Gerald (don't know his last name), who used to be a
 member of Ectomorph and in and out of Drexciya too (I
 -think- on the latter) and his girlfriend (sorry to
 refer to her that way but I don't know her name). I
 have a picture of him (if I am making the right
 connection) doing one of the last PAs he would do with
 Brendan as Ectomorph at the release party for Beyond
 The Third Wave.
 
 
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[313] Heinrich and dopplereffekt

2002-02-04 Thread Minto George

My friend Dan Kurzius did a little write up on these
guy(s) in his Hardsync zine. I'll see if I can dig it
up. Maybe Dan will post it. Are you on this list still
Dan? anyways, he might be taking the piss out of it
all or then again he might be just plain crazy. I met
him one time. He didn't seem like such a bad guy. He
did say he liked music with melodies so he's not as
dark as everyone thinks he might be. 

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Re: [313] Lou Robinson?

2002-02-04 Thread robin pinning

 I was scanning an old UK dance mag from '97 where they were reviewing a
 Sean Deason record and had mentioned other Detroit artists who had recently
 (in '97 that is) released other quality records and they mentioned Lou
 Robinson who is he?

scan 7

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Re: [313] Lou Robinson?

2002-02-04 Thread robin pinning

 I was scanning an old UK dance mag from '97 where they were reviewing a
 Sean Deason record and had mentioned other Detroit artists who had recently
 (in '97 that is) released other quality records and they mentioned Lou
 Robinson who is he?


oh yeah aka trackmaster lou

also had something out on soma around that time if memory serves as
Allergy

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Re: [313] Lou Robinson?

2002-02-04 Thread robin pinning

 MEK:

 I was scanning an old UK dance mag from '97 where they were reviewing a
 Sean Deason record and had mentioned other Detroit artists who had recently
 (in '97 that is) released other quality records and they mentioned Lou
 Robinson who is he?

 Lou Robinson records as Scan 7 (tho i thought they were a duo?  anyone know
 who else is involved?), Trackmaster Lou, and The Shadow.

the other guy is tony hortonthe shadow is lou again...

rob: have i regained last weeks lost spotter points yet? :)



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Re: [313] Lou Robinson?

2002-02-04 Thread robin pinning
 
  I was scanning an old UK dance mag from '97 where they were reviewing a
  Sean Deason record and had mentioned other Detroit artists who had recently
  (in '97 that is) released other quality records and they mentioned Lou
  Robinson who is he?
 
  Lou Robinson records as Scan 7 (tho i thought they were a duo?  anyone know
  who else is involved?), Trackmaster Lou, and The Shadow.

 the other guy is tony hortonthe shadow is lou again...

 rob: have i regained last weeks lost spotter points yet? :)



more info at http://www.scan7.com/TheCause.html

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Re: [313] Lou Robinson?

2002-02-04 Thread rob webb

Robin:


the other guy is tony horton


thought they were a duo, just couldn't recall the other guys name.  well 
remembered sir.



rob: have i regained last weeks lost spotter points yet? :)


heh, you're doing well Grasshopper, but you still have much to learn.  wax 
on, wax off, wax on, wax off...




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[313] ok Lou Robinson is Scan 7 thank you

2002-02-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Wow what  a response!


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RE: [313] Lou Robinson / Seperate Minds

2002-02-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
He's also part of Seperate Minds together with MK and Terence Parker (if i
am correct). How many Seperate Minds records are there, i know of just one
(a brilliant one) but are there anymore?

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 mentioned Lou
  Robinson who is he?
 
 
 oh yeah aka trackmaster lou
 
 also had something out on soma around that time if memory serves as
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[313] Test

2002-02-04 Thread Kerr Graham
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[313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-04 Thread Maarten Baute
Peacefrog 100.2
 Various Artists: 10.100.2 (UK 5x LP Box) @ EUR 65,00   #36289
  (2nd part, luxury 180g pressing, 20 rare tunes by DBX, Shake, Theo
   Parrish a.o.)


Does anyone have a complete tracklisting? I am very curious wich shake track
they selected for the compilation...

Cheers,
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Re: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-04 Thread Mario Atienza

 Track listing 

CD
THEO PARRISH-Sky Walking
CHICAGO UNDERGROUND COUNCIL-Groove Thang
DBX-City On The Edge Of Forever
INSYNC vs MYSTERON-Exit 9
LUKE SLATER-The Secret Garden
ST VITAS DANCE-Mystic Vibrations
MOODYMANN-Telephone Blue
STASIS-View From The Rille
APOGEE-Inside Above
RON TRENT-Morning Factory
GLENN UNDERGROUND-Keep The Hidden Treasures
IAN O'BRIEN-Where Does The Past End And The Present Begin?
DAN CURTIN-It Tastes Like
PLANETART ASSAULT SYSTEMS-Gruve
SHAKE-Sonar 123
JOHN BELTRAN-Ten Days Of Blue
GEMINI-Freefall
WAMDUE KIDS-Optimistique
ROY DAVIS JR-Someday




  Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Peacefrog 100.2
Various Artists: 10.100.2 (UK 5x LP Box) @ EUR 65,00 #36289
(2nd part, luxury 180g pressing, 20 rare tunes by DBX, Shake, Theo
Parrish a.o.)


Does anyone have a complete tracklisting? I am very curious wich shake track
they selected for the compilation...

Cheers,
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RE: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-04 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Do they also release it on CD ? I hope it's as good as the first volume
was...
Gwendal

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 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:08 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part


 Peacefrog 100.2
  Various Artists: 10.100.2 (UK 5x LP Box) @ EUR 65,00   #36289
   (2nd part, luxury 180g pressing, 20 rare tunes by DBX, Shake, Theo
Parrish a.o.)


 Does anyone have a complete tracklisting? I am very curious
 wich shake track
 they selected for the compilation...

 Cheers,
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RE: [313] about the members

2002-02-04 Thread jurren baars


jurren baars, born march 4 1975 in enschede, the netherlands. moved to 
utrecht 1994. law-student. been into techno/house since '93/'94 before that 
classical (as a 4 year old i'd try to put my head into the tv whenever i 
heard huge orchestra's playin'; that probably explains my love for loud 
music with strings), pop (michael jackson), rock (tool, faith no more, etc) 
nowadays listen to basically anything i can get my hands on! - jazz, soul, 
funk, new wave, disco, hip-hop, house, techno, afro-beat, broken-beat, 
electro, dub, booty and hi-tech funk. i'm bored rather quickly, so i mainly 
want to be surprised; i'm not looking for records that i allready own (no 
more drumcodes for me). huge fan of theo parrish, shake, derrick may and mad 
mike. on 313 for 2 years. bed room dj (the best in the world imho: i play 
all my favorite records! too bad i don't mix 'm better).


in response to otto: why utrecht is holland's techno-town no.1? just try 
calling anyone here in utrecht when outside of the netherlands... dial: 
+3130.. i rest my case.


jurren

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silly jokes about the 'great lake bass' on 313, 'cause i am not amused ;)


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RE: [313] What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Anyone also ever consider that UR has released some 12 with some very Nazi
German/Imperial Japanese titles/images - WPA's Kamikaze  Seawolf

Then again,I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white
boy fruit farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west.


I think you're talking about the Wisconsin dairy farmers of Deep Chord...
if I'm not mistaken.

MEK




   
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02/04/02
   
03:43 AM
   

   

   




Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from'
countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies, that
is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom.

Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship.  Something else that comes
to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR and
China depicted.  Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for
many years.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk''
translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the
definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as
opposed to it's general or chemical definition.

Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian.  Then again,
I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit
farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west.

Some interesting points of discussion to think about.

However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt =
Japanese Telecom.



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At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote:
Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
imagery, but it is just too much not to be second-degree... as far as I
know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and
imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas
fit in the Gigolos stable ?
Gwendal

  -Original Message-
  From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 
  Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
  symbols on
  them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
  appaered on the
  Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
  why he named
  one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
  sterilize the
  population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
  disabled had to be
  sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
  time on  i always
  had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
   Müller is quite
   a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
   Gwendal
  
-Original Message-
From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
   
   
I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
name, well i
hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
i will burn my
copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
Gestapo, the
secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
reposible for one of
the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
persons (together
with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
components in the
deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
   
Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
disappeared and was
never brought to justice!
   
To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
to use Mueller
as an alias...
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
 

Re: [313] indio / aril brikha

2002-02-04 Thread Mad'R
it's a shame if it isn't so

f*cking cd's over vinyl
it's a blamage
that tracks is so very fine !!!

Mad'R
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anyone else who thinks it's a pity
that read only memory did not make it
on the vinyl version of deeparture
in time by aril brikha ?

At 18:31 02.02.02 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,

maybee someone has connections with the transmat boys.. I wanted to ask if
there was a chance that the indio album would get a vinyl release as well?

It would be a shame if they didn´t release that one on vinyl!

Thanks,
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[313] contact information pleeez

2002-02-04 Thread Rob Theakston
anyone have the email info for enrico o'er at archive/neroli? furthermore,
enrico if you are on the list still ( i recall him being on here still ),
please give me an email back. thanks.

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[313] Stacey Pullen

2002-02-04 Thread Otto
Moe Fuzz wrote:
 
 There's suppose to be a brand new Stacey Pullen track on the next No  
 Categories 5 comp (Ubiquity), and  it's not the remix he did for As One.
 I'm told the tune fuckin' rocks.   There's also a new P'taah track on that
 comp.

Nothing to do with the above post really, but last night on TMF -the
Dutch MTV clone- I came across a short interview with DJ Melvin, a Dutch
club/trance DJ. When the presenter asked which Dutch DJs he admired, he
said DJ Jean and Lucien Foort (trust me, you don't want to know) but
when asked about foreign DJs, he mentioned Stacey Pullen. That was a bit
of a shocker...

Otto
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Re: [313] Jaun Atkins

2002-02-04 Thread Otto
Luna wrote:
 
 What I remember most about the article, and what shocked 
 me the most was that Atkins was upset about the fact that
 white kids shopping in his record store were buying techno 
 but the black kids were buying the ghetto-tech, booty stuff.

The main issue at stake here is *not* white kids buying techno. It's the
black kids *not* buying techno. I'm pretty sure that's the reason for
him being upset, because other Detroit artists have made similar
comments at one point or another. I think to him, techno is a
fundamentally black type of music (which doesn't preclude white people
from buying it!), but when that doesn't get appreciated by 'your'
people, I think I'd be upset too.

Otto


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Re: Re: [313] indio / aril brikha

2002-02-04 Thread Niko Tzoukmanis
At 14:08 04.02.02 -0500, you wrote:
yup!
I was pretty upset after I looked at the tracklisting of Deeparture 
in time as well. Did they really need to have both versions on groove 
le chord on the album, when they could put on any of the other tracks 

exactly my opinion, as groove la chord has been released on
vinyl before, and even in a longer version...

that havent seen a vinyl release yet. Maybe derrick and company will 
release those tracks on vinyl after another lengthy waiting period 
in  2006? 

optimist ;O)



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Re: [313] indio / aril brikha

2002-02-04 Thread Nocturnals
Hi all-

For some reason it always seems like CDs contain more tracks than the vinyl 
release...such was the case with Laurent Garnier's Unreasonable Behavior 
LP, which contained a couple of extra tracks on CD ... not to mention the 
import CD of the album and the bonus LIVE AT THE REX cd.

And should I mention the Jeff Mills Time Machine CD that never saw the 
light of day on vinyl?

Musically,
Kered

In a message dated 2/4/2002 2:12:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 yup!
 I was pretty upset after I looked at the tracklisting of Deeparture 
 in time as well. Did they really need to have both versions on groove 
 le chord on the album, when they could put on any of the other tracks 
 that havent seen a vinyl release yet. Maybe derrick and company will 
 release those tracks on vinyl after another lengthy waiting period 
 in  2006? 
 
 don't mind me i'm a little bitter this afternoon;)
 
 Jwan
 
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 To: 313@hyperreal.org,Niko Tzoukmanis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [313] indio / aril brikha
 
 
 it's a shame if it isn't so
 
 f*cking cd's over vinyl
 it's a blamage
 that tracks is so very fine !!!
 
 Mad'R
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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [313] indio / aril brikha
 
 
 anyone else who thinks it's a pity
 that read only memory did not make it
 on the vinyl version of deeparture
 in time by aril brikha ?
 
 At 18:31 02.02.02 +0100, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 maybee someone has connections with the transmat boys.. I wanted to 
 ask if
 there was a chance that the indio album would get a vinyl release as 
 well?
 
 It would be a shame if they didn´t release that one on vinyl!
 
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Re: Re: [313] indio / aril brikha

2002-02-04 Thread W Lammerts
Probably yes, after he has released his own album first.

:(

W

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...Maybe derrick and company will release those tracks on vinyl after
another lengthy waiting period
in 2006?

don't mind me i'm a little bitter this afternoon;)

Jwan

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Subject: Re: [313] indio / aril brikha


it's a shame if it isn't so

f*cking cd's over vinyl
it's a blamage
that tracks is so very fine !!!

Mad'R
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [313] indio / aril brikha


anyone else who thinks it's a pity
that read only memory did not make it
on the vinyl version of deeparture
in time by aril brikha ?

At 18:31 02.02.02 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,

maybee someone has connections with the transmat boys.. I wanted to
ask if
there was a chance that the indio album would get a vinyl release as
well?

It would be a shame if they didn´t release that one on vinyl!

Thanks,
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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread Fred Heutte
For more information on Heinrich Mueller:

http://www.nara.gov/iwg/declass/mueller.html


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RE: [313] RE: 313 Digest 3 Feb 2002 14:27:23 -0000 Issue 917

2002-02-04 Thread FC3 Richards
damn...settin the record straight...(no pun inteneded of course)

you spinning out in San Diego any time soon??

Jeff
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:27 AM
 To:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  [313] RE: 313 Digest 3 Feb 2002 14:27:23 - Issue 917
 
 Once again, I see I have to get on this M.F. to set somebody strait. The
 article that this Luna person is referring to, was a Detroit panel
 discussion with a lot of other Detroit artist (other than Derrick May) as
 well. The quote that this Luna person is referring to, about Richie
 Hawtin, was actually from Eddie Fowlkes and not myself because I make it a
 point not say anything personal about other Detroit artist when I do
 interviews. If I've said it once, I'll say it a hundred times, please have
 your facts tight when you post something about Juan Atkins on this M.F.
 OK
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Re: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-04 Thread tydesign7
It was released on CD. Just as good as the first.

On 02/04/02 12:23 PM, Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do they also release it on CD ? I hope it's as good as the first volume
 was...
 Gwendal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:08 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part
 
 
 Peacefrog 100.2
  Various Artists: 10.100.2 (UK 5x LP Box) @ EUR 65,00   #36289
   (2nd part, luxury 180g pressing, 20 rare tunes by DBX, Shake, Theo
Parrish a.o.)
 
 
 Does anyone have a complete tracklisting? I am very curious
 wich shake track
 they selected for the compilation...
 
 Cheers,
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[313] no 313 for me

2002-02-04 Thread Scotto
could some with a digest subscription please send me yesterdays and todays
digests my hotmail was full and they don't deliver my mail when it's full.
mainly the about the members thread
thanks scotto

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RE: [313] What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread FC3 Richards
had absolutely no idea that Japanese Telecom was Drexcya in any way shape or
form...

jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: Benn Glazier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:43 AM
 To:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  RE: [313] What's in a name?
 
 Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from' 
 countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies, that
 
 is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom.
 
 Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship.  Something else that comes
 
 to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR and
 
 China depicted.  Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for 
 many years.
 
 Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk'' 
 translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the 
 definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as 
 opposed to it's general or chemical definition.
 
 Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian.  Then again,
 
 I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit 
 farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west.
 
 Some interesting points of discussion to think about.
 
 However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt = 
 Japanese Telecom.
 
 
 
 royal:one: - benn glazier
 http://www.royaltech.net - http://dj.royaltech.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 61 (0) 413 316 618
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 At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote:
 Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
 imagery, but it is just too much not to be second-degree... as far as I
 know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and
 imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas
 fit in the Gigolos stable ?
 Gwendal
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
   To: 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
  
  
   Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
   symbols on
   them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
   appaered on the
   Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
   why he named
   one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
   sterilize the
   population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
   disabled had to be
   sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
   time on  i always
   had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
Müller is quite
a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
Gwendal
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
 To: '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?


 I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
 name, well i
 hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
 i will burn my
 copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
 Gestapo, the
 secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
 reposible for one of
 the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
 persons (together
 with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
 components in the
 deportation and then extermination of the Jews.

 Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
 disappeared and was
 never brought to justice!

 To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
 Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
 to use Mueller
 as an alias...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
  Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
  Magazine, UK).
  Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
  feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
  this? The name was
  Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
  writer's part? Now
  that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
  why the first
  attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
  I don't mention
  the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
  out there too.
  Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.

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[313] about the members

2002-02-04 Thread D.E
daniel

born, raised on the aaland islands,finland in 77.
currently setup in gothenburg,sweden
dj, livestuff, about 1500 vinyls
own label, electromechanix set up in 2001
machineheadpoet
great stuff:
manuel goettsching e2e4
suicide, detroit, chicago, munich
food, art, 313 list





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[313] c j bolland

2002-02-04 Thread innercity records
From the member info i remember one of
you works for neuton, sorry i forgot who.
my memory gets worse by the day.


in december i was given a promo of a new label
that c j bolland was putting out. this got misplaced
during our shop move and i'm hoping you can give me
more info on this. label name, release date etc.

thanks in advance
paul
www.innercity.co.uk






  


RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread FC3 Richards
wold the guy fit in better over at the Disko B stable???
it is still DJ Hell's label if i remember right.  I would assume that these
images are put there for the artistice shock value if there is any such
thing as that.  Alot of punk bands do similar things.  maybe Techno is just
the Electronic version of punk...

 -Original Message-
 From: Gwendal Cobert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:27 AM
 To:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
 imagery, but it is just too much not to be second-degree... as far as I
 know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and
 imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas
 fit in the Gigolos stable ?
 Gwendal
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 
  Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
  symbols on
  them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
  appaered on the
  Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
  why he named
  one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
  sterilize the
  population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
  disabled had to be
  sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
  time on  i always
  had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
   Müller is quite
   a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
   Gwendal
  
-Original Message-
From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
   
   
I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
name, well i
hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
i will burn my
copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
Gestapo, the
secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
reposible for one of
the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
persons (together
with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
components in the
deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
   
Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
disappeared and was
never brought to justice!
   
To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
to use Mueller
as an alias...
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
 Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
 Magazine, UK).
 Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
 feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
 this? The name was
 Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
 writer's part? Now
 that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
 why the first
 attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time
 I don't mention
 the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
 out there too.
 Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.
   
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Re: [313] RE: 313 Digest 3 Feb 2002 14:27:23 -0000 Issue 917

2002-02-04 Thread glyph1001

Mr. Atkins,

As always, thanks for speaking out and clearing up all misconceptions.

Peace,
G.

JuanAtkins wrote:


Once again, I see I have to get on this M.F. to set somebody strait. The
article that this Luna person is referring to, was a Detroit panel
discussion with a lot of other Detroit artist (other than Derrick May) as
well. The quote that this Luna person is referring to, about Richie
Hawtin, was actually from Eddie Fowlkes and not myself because I make it a
point not say anything personal about other Detroit artist when I do
interviews. If I've said it once, I'll say it a hundred times, please have
your facts tight when you post something about Juan Atkins on this M.F.  OK
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RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?

2002-02-04 Thread FC3 Richards
isnt Mueller a brand of noodles???  they come in the box that is mainly
white and the top and bottom are blue.  yeah, that is what my mom used to
make spaghetti with when i was a kid.  Maybe Drexcya got his noodles from
the same place my mom does...???  

taking nothing seriously as usual

jeff (noodle boy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:47 AM
 To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject:  RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
 
 I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real name, well i
 hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members i will burn
 my
 copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head Gestapo, the
 secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is reposible for one
 of
 the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the persons
 (together
 with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key components in the
 deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
 
 Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he disappeared and was
 never brought to justice!
 
 To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
 Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why to use Mueller
 as an alias...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in 
  Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
  Magazine, UK).
  Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
  feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of 
  this? The name was
  Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the 
  writer's part? Now
  that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, 
  why the first
  attempt to post this was barred from the list  This time 
  I don't mention
  the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already 
  out there too.
  Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.
 
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Re: [313] RE: 313 Digest 3 Feb 2002 14:27:23 -0000 Issue 917

2002-02-04 Thread atomly
Mr. Atkins, thank you for presenting your nuts so that I can be all up
on them.

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