(313) 2 Technics SL 1210's for Sale
a friend of mine asked me to post this to the 313 list. She's selling her turntables to pay for a car repair. a matched pair of SL1210's (the black ones) for sale, includes carts! both in excellent/like new condition. both bought brand new 10 months ago and rarely used. (they were used at a club for 2 months last summer, on weekends only, then stored unused ever since). get 'em both for $750 contact me if interested. sean deason
(313) detroit review
i edited this down from a large review to make it strictly music relevant. this was my first time in detroit, and it was fantastic. friday night: todd sines and aril brikha preparty we arrived at the pub just in time to miss todd sines' set. big fun. finally aril brikha came on, and he killed it. he played mostly new tracks along with a couple favorites from the deeparture in time LP. when he was done, i thanked him for being the man and we jetted to go get some sleep. saturday: the festival we rolled over to the main stage for double helix's set, which ended up being quite nice and smooth. the first part of ayro's live set involved him making a rather complex funky drum beat and synth line just using an mpc and a couple keyboards. he freestyled a couple tracks worth of really nice jazzy broken beat before bringing out his vocalist/girlfriend to perform tracks from his forthcoming album. the songs sounded nice, but lacked the spontanaety of the awesome first part, which was without question the most impressive live PA ive ever seen. the reese project played next, and they rocked out some generally deep sounding house music with vocals, though they seemed to be having some problems. buzz goree comes on and crushes some awesome detroit techno. following him was rolando, who absolutely tore it up. he played tons of classic techno tracks like strings of life and night drive. we had to leave his set early though so we could wander over to the high tech soul stage for amp fiddler's live set. he played with a full band and just rocked out on a nord lead 2 and a nord electro which makes all the rhodes/organ/electromechanical keyboard sounds that a funk player would need. the experience he had playing with people like prince and p-funk showed up in his stage show and his dress which included an afro, 70's style wraparound shades, and an african outfit. he danced around and sang and played keys on a bunch of tracks that i recognized like eye to eye and superficial from his basementality EP as well as some parliament covers. the highlight was without a doubt his performance of im doing fine which he recorded with kenny dixon jr as amp dog knight for the first mahogani record. after that fantastic set we rolled over to the music institute stage for some ron trent, who was absolutely killing it with some deep ass disco and house music. saturday night: rob hood and suburban knight afterparty suburban knight was rocking the final scratch, playing chill melodic detroit techno tunes that should have been played at 33 pitched up at 45. it sounded really odd, especially when he played tunes i knew like some aril brikha and more strings of life. at first i didnt like it, but after a while i actually got pretty into it. he started mixing in some jungle sounding stuff with the sped up and techno and that really had a dope effect. after him was some guy i dont know also playing off final scratch. he dropped some laurent garnier as well as some other deep detroit tunes played at their proper speed. rob hood started off banging it out with some really quick hard techno. im not the biggest fan of the harder styles, but ive always liked his hard mixes as well as his harder productions so i was really looking forward to an ill set from him. 35 minutes into his set, just as everyone was starting to get into it, he pulled off his record and quickly packed his shit up. someone got on the mic and said the police will be arriving very shortly, we advise everyone to leave the building immediately. everyone got out so we did too, running into a very irritated looking rob hood on our way out. sunday: more festival we made it down to the high tech soul stage before dabrye's set to find all the rest of our crew already chilling waiting for his live set. what appeared to be an old ass computer sat alongside an old synth and a sampled for what ended up being a very awesome live PA. lots of fat hiphop-esque beats with nice atmosphere and huge raw basslines. dwele came on after dabrye and he and his band played a really nice set of slow soul music. he was a really nice guy who was very happy to be playing, and it showed. their sampler had some glitches so they just turned it off and got funky. the music went very well with the warm sunny day. at 4 we went over to the main stage to catch john beltran's live set. it was very nice chilled out melodic stuff featuring ayro and john arnold on keys and guitar as well as a percussionist. around 5 we went over to the high tech soul stage to get in position for the detroit experiment set at 6. we caught the last half of vikter duplaix's deejay set. he was rocking the classic tunes like chaka khan's aint nobody and africanism's block party and of course the ubiquitous strings of life. once he was done, the detroit experiment set up. i turned around to look up at the huge wall of people that had assembled to witness this once in a lifetime performance of funk techno and soul musicians next to old
(313) detroit review
i edited this down from a large review to make it strictly music relevant. this was my first time in detroit, and it was fantastic. friday night: todd sines and aril brikha preparty we arrived at the pub just in time to miss todd sines' set. big fun. finally aril brikha came on, and he killed it. he played mostly new tracks along with a couple favorites from the deeparture in time LP. when he was done, i thanked him for being the man and we jetted to go get some sleep. saturday: the festival we rolled over to the main stage for double helix's set, which ended up being quite nice and smooth. the first part of ayro's live set involved him making a rather complex funky drum beat and synth line just using an mpc and a couple keyboards. he freestyled a couple tracks worth of really nice jazzy broken beat before bringing out his vocalist/girlfriend to perform tracks from his forthcoming album. the songs sounded nice, but lacked the spontanaety of the awesome first part, which was without question the most impressive live PA ive ever seen. the reese project played next, and they rocked out some generally deep sounding house music with vocals, though they seemed to be having some problems. buzz goree comes on and crushes some awesome detroit techno. following him was rolando, who absolutely tore it up. he played tons of classic techno tracks like strings of life and night drive. we had to leave his set early though so we could wander over to the high tech soul stage for amp fiddler's live set. he played with a full band and just rocked out on a nord lead 2 and a nord electro which makes all the rhodes/organ/electromechanical keyboard sounds that a funk player would need. the experience he had playing with people like prince and p-funk showed up in his stage show and his dress which included an afro, 70's style wraparound shades, and an african outfit. he danced around and sang and played keys on a bunch of tracks that i recognized like eye to eye and superficial from his basementality EP as well as some parliament covers. the highlight was without a doubt his performance of im doing fine which he recorded with kenny dixon jr as amp dog knight for the first mahogani record. after that fantastic set we rolled over to the music institute stage for some ron trent, who was absolutely killing it with some deep ass disco and house music. saturday night: rob hood and suburban knight afterparty suburban knight was rocking the final scratch, playing chill melodic detroit techno tunes that should have been played at 33 pitched up at 45. it sounded really odd, especially when he played tunes i knew like some aril brikha and more strings of life. at first i didnt like it, but after a while i actually got pretty into it. he started mixing in some jungle sounding stuff with the sped up and techno and that really had a dope effect. after him was some guy i dont know also playing off final scratch. he dropped some laurent garnier as well as some other deep detroit tunes played at their proper speed. rob hood started off banging it out with some really quick hard techno. im not the biggest fan of the harder styles, but ive always liked his hard mixes as well as his harder productions so i was really looking forward to an ill set from him. 35 minutes into his set, just as everyone was starting to get into it, he pulled off his record and quickly packed his sh*t up. someone got on the mic and said the police will be arriving very shortly, we advise everyone to leave the building immediately. everyone got out so we did too, running into a very irritated looking rob hood on our way out. sunday: more festival we made it down to the high tech soul stage before dabrye's set to find all the rest of our crew already chilling waiting for his live set. what appeared to be an old ass computer sat alongside an old synth and a sampled for what ended up being a very awesome live PA. lots of fat hiphop-esque beats with nice atmosphere and huge raw basslines. dwele came on after dabrye and he and his band played a really nice set of slow soul music. he was a really nice guy who was very happy to be playing, and it showed. their sampler had some glitches so they just turned it off and got funky. the music went very well with the warm sunny day. at 4 we went over to the main stage to catch john beltran's live set. it was very nice chilled out melodic stuff featuring ayro and john arnold on keys and guitar as well as a percussionist. around 5 we went over to the high tech soul stage to get in position for the detroit experiment set at 6. we caught the last half of vikter duplaix's deejay set. he was rocking the classic tunes like chaka khan's aint nobody and africanism's block party and of course the ubiquitous strings of life. once he was done, the detroit experiment set up. i turned around to look up at the huge wall of people that had assembled to witness this once in a lifetime performance of funk techno and soul musicians next to old
(313) herbert radio 1 worldwide
hello, does anyone have herbert bigband from their performance on gilles petersons show? i was gonna record it with audio hijack but my trial period ran out and then the set was taken off the bbc site.. can anyone help me? ill be eternally grateful and try to return the favor in any way possible! thanks jake
Re: (313) mills
My memory's sketchy on the set (sorry), however I'm wondering why he chose to play that Bucketheads track?! Seemed odd that he picked such a commercial, over-played track out of all he could have possibly played on that last night? Of course he played tons of good stuff was most excellent to watch on the turntables. :) lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what was the electro/rap track he played before work da body? scotto I couldn't goto the works, but from what I heard Mr KDJ is/was the special guest. - Original Message - From: Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:22 AM Subject: (313) mills i'd never seen him before. that was amazing. did it turn out that he is the special guest at the works tonight? -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
(313) Jeff mills and richie at movement
I will say it cause many of you are thinking it. He suckedseen mills 4 times and this was the worst. Gains always up to high, he trainwrecked numerous times, his own records even. Played the same damn techno tracks he always does (buy the liquid room disc and you heard the same set), at one point he started playing hip hop not even mixing tracks, just cutting back and forth to new tracks. Mills had a few good spots, started to get great on the 909 then he stopped completely bowed and played rap. I enjoy good hip hop tracks like he played but he didn¹t even mix them. Many of you could have done just as good. Richie played the same stuff he always does. Snare rolls and high hats. Must say I think he is getting worse. Seen him 30 times now and most recently the last two times I have seen him his mixing has been terrible. What happened to richie the perfectionist now he always looks messed up. they must have took a thousand pictures that night of him posing for the camera, get of your horse rich and get back to innovating like you used to. I have never heard so many complaints at a richie show, MAGDA kicked his arse that for sure. What happened to the cutting edge things we are used to? Overall the festival was great, but the big boys didn¹t hold it up that¹s for sure. Best parts: Thomas fehlman Akufen Speedy J Mathew Dear Flame away but I have talked to many of you over the weekend and I know what you think to. Don¹t you ever wonder why no one talks about a show when people ask how was the richie show and few answer, you know what happened. When someone is on this list is flooded with reviews in hours this time its seems to be quiet around here My .03 cents Flame Away but this is not a troll, longtime list member honest opinion
Re: (313) Jeff mills and richie at movement
I've only seen Mills once before Movement 03 and I was a bit disappointed in his choice of sets - it seemed almost like he was doing a 'best of/hits' set hopping around different types of music but not necessarily in a manner that flowed well. I know it's not the best thing to go into a performance hoping for something, but I was hoping he'd play a wicked, bangin' set and he didn't. Like I said before I think he played a lot of good tunes and I liked watching him with the turntables (there were 3, right?). I didn't mind that he did cut-overs because some of that worked. What kinda sucked with that was some of the cut-over points he chose cut out verses or measures of the song that would have worked left it feeling 'short' - like he stopped too soon and it wasn't pleasant/cool. There were a few wrecks on the decks, but maybe he was a bit frazzled from those early equipment problems? Like he got thrown off? I dunno. I have more stuff to put up and will do that soon - just a bit tired from getting back home tonight from Detroit after being without a computer since Friday! Hmmm, speaking of computers... Did anyone else notice how crappy the internet access was @ the Sony booth? I mean, it was great they had it but using satellite/wireless gave weird results - like sometimes really fast and other times worse than 56k (like 10 minutes just to load the google start page)! When the sun was out the connections were pretty good. :) Oh well, it was free... lisa Jim Bishop wrote: I will say it cause many of you are thinking it. He suckedseen mills 4 times and this was the worst. Gains always up to high, he trainwrecked numerous times, his own records even. Played the same damn techno tracks he always does (buy the liquid room disc and you heard the same set), at one point he started playing hip hop not even mixing tracks, just cutting back and forth to new tracks. Mills had a few good spots, started to get great on the 909 then he stopped completely bowed and played rap. I enjoy good hip hop tracks like he played but he didn¹t even mix them. Many of you could have done just as good. Richie played the same stuff he always does. Snare rolls and high hats. Must say I think he is getting worse. Seen him 30 times now and most recently the last two times I have seen him his mixing has been terrible. What happened to richie the perfectionist now he always looks messed up. they must have took a thousand pictures that night of him posing for the camera, get of your horse rich and get back to innovating like you used to. I have never heard so many complaints at a richie show, MAGDA kicked his arse that for sure. What happened to the cutting edge things we are used to? Overall the festival was great, but the big boys didn¹t hold it up that¹s for sure. Best parts: Thomas fehlman Akufen Speedy J Mathew Dear Flame away but I have talked to many of you over the weekend and I know what you think to. Don¹t you ever wonder why no one talks about a show when people ask how was the richie show and few answer, you know what happened. When someone is on this list is flooded with reviews in hours this time its seems to be quiet around here My .03 cents Flame Away but this is not a troll, longtime list member honest opinion
Re: (313) id
Can anyone id the track between 34 and 35 minutes on the mills homeland mix at http://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra/? sounds like hood. Robert Hood - Who Taught You Math [ peacefrog ] Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) Jeff mills and richie at movement
Well I am sorry but I disagree and as I have just got in the last few minutes I am upset to see a post like this having experienced the D for the first time... I thought Jeff was wicked, ok he train wrecked so bloody what?? crickey he had a packed schedule this weekend but who else would you hear play The Message, a Rush track, kings of tomorrow, the Wizard of Oz etc etc in the same set? and as fast as he did? at one point he started playing hip hop not even mixing tracks, just cutting back and forth to new tracks. I think you weren't listening hard cos most were double copies plus he was giving everyone a taste of everything, could you do better? the Wizard was true in Wizard style and we tasted what most listened too all those years ago, so I am very happy. It just grates me that most listen to the mistakes and not what he actually played really well. So me it was a wicked ending to a superb time in the D...So Thanks Dennis and Madga for your superb hopsitality, I will repay the favour one day Other people you know who you are but a post will come later as I am off to bed to re-inact it all :) -Original Message- From: Jim Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 03:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Jeff mills and richie at movement I will say it cause many of you are thinking it. He suckedseen mills 4 times and this was the worst. Gains always up to high, he trainwrecked numerous times, his own records even. Played the same damn techno tracks he always does (buy the liquid room disc and you heard the same set), at one point he started playing hip hop not even mixing tracks, just cutting back and forth to new tracks. Mills had a few good spots, started to get great on the 909 then he stopped completely bowed and played rap. I enjoy good hip hop tracks like he played but he didn¹t even mix them. Many of you could have done just as good. Richie played the same stuff he always does. Snare rolls and high hats. Must say I think he is getting worse. Seen him 30 times now and most recently the last two times I have seen him his mixing has been terrible. What happened to richie the perfectionist now he always looks messed up. they must have took a thousand pictures that night of him posing for the camera, get of your horse rich and get back to innovating like you used to. I have never heard so many complaints at a richie show, MAGDA kicked his arse that for sure. What happened to the cutting edge things we are used to? Overall the festival was great, but the big boys didn¹t hold it up that¹s for sure. Best parts: Thomas fehlman Akufen Speedy J Mathew Dear Flame away but I have talked to many of you over the weekend and I know what you think to. Don¹t you ever wonder why no one talks about a show when people ask how was the richie show and few answer, you know what happened. When someone is on this list is flooded with reviews in hours this time its seems to be quiet around here My .03 cents Flame Away but this is not a troll, longtime list member honest opinion --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03
RE: (313) Jeff mills and richie at movement
but I was hoping he'd play a wicked, bangin' set and he didn't. To be honest I knew that would never happen cos its was that special set where it wasn't about the banging stuff it was the Wizard in true radio mix mode...I heard classics that I thought I would never hear again , his choice was unreal if you ask me, something for everyone :) -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 04:52 To: Jim Bishop Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff mills and richie at movement I've only seen Mills once before Movement 03 and I was a bit disappointed in his choice of sets - it seemed almost like he was doing a 'best of/hits' set hopping around different types of music but not necessarily in a manner that flowed well. I know it's not the best thing to go into a performance hoping for something, but I was hoping he'd play a wicked, bangin' set and he didn't. Like I said before I think he played a lot of good tunes and I liked watching him with the turntables (there were 3, right?). I didn't mind that he did cut-overs because some of that worked. What kinda sucked with that was some of the cut-over points he chose cut out verses or measures of the song that would have worked left it feeling 'short' - like he stopped too soon and it wasn't pleasant/cool. There were a few wrecks on the decks, but maybe he was a bit frazzled from those early equipment problems? Like he got thrown off? I dunno. I have more stuff to put up and will do that soon - just a bit tired from getting back home tonight from Detroit after being without a computer since Friday! Hmmm, speaking of computers... Did anyone else notice how crappy the internet access was @ the Sony booth? I mean, it was great they had it but using satellite/wireless gave weird results - like sometimes really fast and other times worse than 56k (like 10 minutes just to load the google start page)! When the sun was out the connections were pretty good. :) Oh well, it was free... lisa Jim Bishop wrote: I will say it cause many of you are thinking it. He suckedseen mills 4 times and this was the worst. Gains always up to high, he trainwrecked numerous times, his own records even. Played the same damn techno tracks he always does (buy the liquid room disc and you heard the same set), at one point he started playing hip hop not even mixing tracks, just cutting back and forth to new tracks. Mills had a few good spots, started to get great on the 909 then he stopped completely bowed and played rap. I enjoy good hip hop tracks like he played but he didn¹t even mix them. Many of you could have done just as good. Richie played the same stuff he always does. Snare rolls and high hats. Must say I think he is getting worse. Seen him 30 times now and most recently the last two times I have seen him his mixing has been terrible. What happened to richie the perfectionist now he always looks messed up. they must have took a thousand pictures that night of him posing for the camera, get of your horse rich and get back to innovating like you used to. I have never heard so many complaints at a richie show, MAGDA kicked his arse that for sure. What happened to the cutting edge things we are used to? Overall the festival was great, but the big boys didn¹t hold it up that¹s for sure. Best parts: Thomas fehlman Akufen Speedy J Mathew Dear Flame away but I have talked to many of you over the weekend and I know what you think to. Don¹t you ever wonder why no one talks about a show when people ask how was the richie show and few answer, you know what happened. When someone is on this list is flooded with reviews in hours this time its seems to be quiet around here My .03 cents Flame Away but this is not a troll, longtime list member honest opinion --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03
Re: (313) Jeff mills and richie at movement
28/5/03 9:11 AM ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] It just grates me that most listen to the mistakes and not what he actually played really well. I agree, when this becomes the point it surely becomes pointless. Martin
(313) New MM
Silence In The Secret Garden - Moodymann Dark, minimalist tech-house gear from Detroit legend Kenny Dixon Jr. that's as innovative as ever. Flip for a pair of more accessible tracks, but stick with the A and you'll be rewarded. http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/7070.html http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/7070.html Isn't this the new Moodyman that was proving very hard to find. I could be mistaken ? Rav
Re: (313) New MM
Silence In The Secret Garden - Moodymann Dark, minimalist tech-house gear from Detroit legend Kenny Dixon Jr. that's as innovative as ever. Flip for a pair of more accessible tracks, but stick with the A and you'll be rewarded. http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/7070.html http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/7070.html Isn't this the new Moodyman that was proving very hard to find. I could be mistaken ? You are mistaken. It is the shattered dreams 12 that is limited. Cheers, Maarten
(313) RE: Subject: Shops in Sheffield
I went up there digging for records a couple of years back and had quite an interesting run - mainly because I got speaking to a guy in a record shop in this Afflecks'y shopping arcade and he said he had a few thousand records upstairs he hadn't got anywhere to put them out; I persuaded him to let me look through them and ended up with several crates of 12s at £1 each - a lot of stuff which probably hadn't seen the light of day for 5 or 6 years :) I think that place was upstairs in The Forum but I wouldn't guarantee it. There was also a drum and bass shop downstairs there with a good selection... That was on the end of a street which seemed to be the main street with record stores on it which I believe was Devonshire street. You also have down there a record shop in the back of a girls clothing shop (small selection of new dance releases leaning towards funk reissues and IDM-type stuff); old-hippy-who-only-knows-about-rock-music-except-the-orb-as-it-is-in-the-price-guide run secondhand record shop with a small selection of crappy dance records overpriced; big independent shop with a lot of cheap vinyl on the second floor (think it might be Fop); plus a few more stores... I checked a few other places throughout Sheffield but there was nothing significant except one place on the other side of the city whose name escapes me! You'd probably find it most rewarding to stay on that one street... There's also a place called Polar Bear which I have bought quite a bit from by mail order over the last year or so... No idea where it is but they get some quality secondhand stuff in! I found this on the net which may help http://www.knowhere.co.uk/518_music.html David
(313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree
http://www.intuitivemusic.com/technoguidetimeline.html I cannot verify all the dates about antique synthesizers... However there are plenty of errors I've spotted here too! * 1975 The Disco era starts in New York's clubs by the hand of producers like Giorgio Moroder and Tom Moulton. Moulton invents the 12 single and the Disco-Mix The underground Hip Hop scene emerges in New Yok's Bronx and Brooklyn neighborhoods. Disco and hip hop were going well before 1975 - first 12 single was 1974; first commercially released 12 1976... As far as I am aware Giorgio Moroder was not a New York producer but I may be wrong here... * 1976 Grandmaster Flash releases his first album Super Rappin' with his new band The Furious Five, one of the first commercial albums of Hip Hop. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five released their debut 12 Superrappin on Enjoy; their first album was The Message on Sugarhill, either 1981 or 1982. * 1980 Sugarhill Gang releases Rapper's Delight taking the Hip Hop culture to the mainstream. No, this was in 1979! * 1986 Afrika Bambaataa releases Planet Rock, a classic Hip Hop album which established the bases of Techno and Electro genres. My copy must have fell into a time warp and ended up back in 1982. * 1987 The Acid House scene starts in Chicago by the hand of Herbert J, DJ Pierre and Spanky. The Acid House scene starts in Manchester. I assume these were different acid house scenes!!?!?! I will leave spotting other errors to other people similarly appalled by such poor quality research - according to the site: This Techno Guide is what we believe the most comprehensive guide of Electronic Music in the Internet to this date. This is the result of 2 years of research through all sorts of sources (books, magazines, record labels, and internet). This guide is in constant renovation so any information will be welcomed Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That cracks me up! David
RE: (313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree
-Original Message- From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 12:07 [techno family tree] * 1976 Grandmaster Flash releases his first album Super Rappin' with his new band The Furious Five, one of the first commercial albums of Hip Hop. OK, serious question here - who thinks that this site is actually a *spoof*? I'm becoming more and more suspicious the more of these daft errors I see! Super Rappin' indeed... :) Brendan
(313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree
This page should prove that this website is the work of muppets! http://www.intuitivemusic.com/raveenter.html David -Original Message- From: David Hampson Sent: 28 May 2003 12:07 To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree http://www.intuitivemusic.com/technoguidetimeline.html I cannot verify all the dates about antique synthesizers... However there are plenty of errors I've spotted here too! * 1975 The Disco era starts in New York's clubs by the hand of producers like Giorgio Moroder and Tom Moulton. Moulton invents the 12 single and the Disco-Mix The underground Hip Hop scene emerges in New Yok's Bronx and Brooklyn neighborhoods. Disco and hip hop were going well before 1975 - first 12 single was 1974; first commercially released 12 1976... As far as I am aware Giorgio Moroder was not a New York producer but I may be wrong here... * 1976 Grandmaster Flash releases his first album Super Rappin' with his new band The Furious Five, one of the first commercial albums of Hip Hop. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five released their debut 12 Superrappin on Enjoy; their first album was The Message on Sugarhill, either 1981 or 1982. * 1980 Sugarhill Gang releases Rapper's Delight taking the Hip Hop culture to the mainstream. No, this was in 1979! * 1986 Afrika Bambaataa releases Planet Rock, a classic Hip Hop album which established the bases of Techno and Electro genres. My copy must have fell into a time warp and ended up back in 1982. * 1987 The Acid House scene starts in Chicago by the hand of Herbert J, DJ Pierre and Spanky. The Acid House scene starts in Manchester. I assume these were different acid house scenes!!?!?! I will leave spotting other errors to other people similarly appalled by such poor quality research - according to the site: This Techno Guide is what we believe the most comprehensive guide of Electronic Music in the Internet to this date. This is the result of 2 years of research through all sorts of sources (books, magazines, record labels, and internet). This guide is in constant renovation so any information will be welcomed Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That cracks me up! David
RE: (313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree
I thought so too - it looks like it is written by my dad trying to be cool and down with the kids -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:08 AM To: David Hampson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree -Original Message- From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 12:07 [techno family tree] * 1976 Grandmaster Flash releases his first album Super Rappin' with his new band The Furious Five, one of the first commercial albums of Hip Hop. OK, serious question here - who thinks that this site is actually a *spoof*? I'm becoming more and more suspicious the more of these daft errors I see! Super Rappin' indeed... :) Brendan # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree
That reminds me of a comedian I saw a few years ago who told how his dad had started to become more savvy with modern music trends... huh, listen to that... he told him jungle music! :) David -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 13:14 To: Brendan Nelson; David Hampson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree I thought so too - it looks like it is written by my dad trying to be cool and down with the kids -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:08 AM To: David Hampson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) RE: Subject: RE: (313) Techno Family Tree -Original Message- From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 12:07 [techno family tree] * 1976 Grandmaster Flash releases his first album Super Rappin' with his new band The Furious Five, one of the first commercial albums of Hip Hop. OK, serious question here - who thinks that this site is actually a *spoof*? I'm becoming more and more suspicious the more of these daft errors I see! Super Rappin' indeed... :) Brendan # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with Kirk Degiorgio
it has nothing to do with djs. in fact, the 'rave act' is no longer even called that. its now the 'illicit drug anti-proliferation act'. the law has to do with venue operations and ownership. if someone does drugs in a club, arena, ampitheater, bar, resturaunt, hotel... then the owner of said establishment as well as the operator, leasee or temporary promoter can be found guilty of providing a place for drug usage, similar in legal terms to running a crack house. more info at- www.drugpolicy.org and www.emdef.org On Fri, 23 May 2003, robin pinning wrote: yeah that's what i'm getting at. in fact track selection (brendan mentions it at the end of the below post) is more important to the hi-tech dj. another thought: from what i can gather the Rave Act in the US classifies a party with no djs and just live acts as something other than a rave and the law is less stringent (please correct if wrong). So is a DJ with a powerbook and ableton live now a live act and not dj? will this change things? robin... I would agree that traditional DJs listening to mixes done in things like Ableton will try to copy some of the techniques they hear, and that this will also help the traditional form of mixing to progress and absorb new ideas. For example, the first time I heard proper booty music was back in 1996 when I got a tape from 12 Tech Mob - the tape had been recorded using multitracking and various other tricks, but at the time I didn't know - I thought it was a straight mix. So off I went, spending the next few years gathering booty and ghetto-tech records and attempting to emulate the frenetic multi-layered action you get on the mix tape. When I eventually found out that the mix was not recorded live, of course, I realised I'd been wasting my time, but in the process of trying to do the whole thing live I'd learnt a whole bunch of new tricks and had generally upped the standard of my mixing, which was a good thing. And did it make me value the tape any less? No! It was just as enjoyable a listening experience, whether it had been put together by NASA or by a demented child with sticky tape. I definitely don't think straight-turntable mixing is dead, and won't be for a long time. And when I say long time, I'm speaking in generational terms, not the next few years. Even if the future sees us all with ableton/final scratch and so on within about a five years, the fact of the matter will remain that if your basic track selection skills are lacking then you won't do very well. Brendan
Re: (313) New MM
Silence in the secret garden is the sampler 12 to the forthcoming album of the same name. The catalog number, for the 12, is peacefrog032 iirc. there are three tracks. the very hard to find MM is called shattered dreams and has one track only i think. fab - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: (313) New MM Silence In The Secret Garden - Moodymann Dark, minimalist tech-house gear from Detroit legend Kenny Dixon Jr. that's as innovative as ever. Flip for a pair of more accessible tracks, but stick with the A and you'll be rewarded. http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/7070.html http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/featured/7070.html Isn't this the new Moodyman that was proving very hard to find. I could be mistaken ? Rav
Re: (313) mills
That would be the difference between the wizard and Jeff Mills = techno. on 5/27/03 9:49 PM, lisa at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My memory's sketchy on the set (sorry), however I'm wondering why he chose to play that Bucketheads track?! Seemed odd that he picked such a commercial, over-played track out of all he could have possibly played on that last night? Of course he played tons of good stuff was most excellent to watch on the turntables. :) lisa
Re: (313) mills
by the way, I agree with you sentiments about the techno Jeff Mills. I'll take good techno purist comprising of mostly new tracks over nostalgic eclecticism. on 5/28/03 6:44 AM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the difference between the wizard and Jeff Mills = techno. on 5/27/03 9:49 PM, lisa at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My memory's sketchy on the set (sorry), however I'm wondering why he chose to play that Bucketheads track?! Seemed odd that he picked such a commercial, over-played track out of all he could have possibly played on that last night? Of course he played tons of good stuff was most excellent to watch on the turntables. :) lisa
(313) esg @ movement
i'm suprised nobody has mentioned this set. goddamn was it incredible. liquid liquid was fun, but their manic flailing seemed to get away from them occasionally. esg on the other hand was pure solid funk. the drummer was easily in the top 3 dance drummers i've heard in my life. 300lbs of pure kick-drum thump. they did it so effortlessly, never even breaking a sweat. and their sound is so seminal. during UFO, i mentioned to a buddy that it was like getting to go to the Paradise Garage and a fugazi concert at the same time. ok- i'm getting paid to review the fest, so no more freebees ;)
Re: (313) esg @ movement
ESG played here in Manchester about 3/4 years ago (just before that reissue LP on SoulJazz came out) They were incredible then too. It was a good day actually, John Mcready dj'd, Tony Wilson was compere and ESG and some Twisted Nerve bands played too. All for free as well on a hot sunday afternoon. happy days. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) esg @ movement
I went to see them last year, just before the release of their album and they rocked.. The drummer does just absolutely batter them drums... Everything they do they do loud and hard.. And yet it was so tight Loved it... Ps live version of ufo rocked On 28/5/03 2:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm suprised nobody has mentioned this set. goddamn was it incredible. liquid liquid was fun, but their manic flailing seemed to get away from them occasionally. esg on the other hand was pure solid funk. the drummer was easily in the top 3 dance drummers i've heard in my life. 300lbs of pure kick-drum thump. they did it so effortlessly, never even breaking a sweat. and their sound is so seminal. during UFO, i mentioned to a buddy that it was like getting to go to the Paradise Garage and a fugazi concert at the same time. ok- i'm getting paid to review the fest, so no more freebees ;)
RE: (313) minus pre-demf party?
Anyone make it to the after party ? I bumped into a few of them at KDJ on monday night and they said the after party ended on noon friday. Those crazy kids... -pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:29 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? i had fun. magdas set was really good and i think i enjoyed it the most tonight. se played a couple of good acid house track like jesus loves the acid and a jackmaster track think it's called debasser? it's on the bang the box ep. and here usual minimal techno. excellent mixing rich came out kinda banging it dance floor style and it was cool for a bit but i had to get some fresh air so I headed to the patio and listen to clark for a while. very nice tarck selection. i went back in and rich was playing some minimal german stuff, to quote carlos the polka beat, they were some sick tracks. at one point he kinda stopped it for a minute and played this track with a dance hall bass line and the half time high hat, very cool track almost sounded plastikman? but not as much as the track he played twords the end it reminded me of hypokondriak. it had a simular bass line and effect on the bass line. rich was breaking it down a lot with the effects. is he using the mac version of final scratch? there was a fleet of powerbooks up there. 2 14 tibook and a 12 tibook someone said he uses one for his effects now? what was the deal with the lights? are those minus glasses going to be for sale? scotto
RE: (313) 7th city
This party got busted by the time we got there @ 2:30 am or so. About 2-3 after parties a night got busted ;( Even the ones with permits to 6am. I think Carol Marvin is behind it... Dan Bell / Magda / Mathew Dear one after another on the underground stage more than made up for it though. -pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) 7th city hi all - quick report from detroit. arrived in late and after hotel check-in headed over to the scan 7 rooftop party. thin crowd, but mike grant was pounding it and buzz goree dropped some great stuff in the back room. left there and headed to the cork town tavern. what a great party! i spent nearly all of the night in the 7th city room. john tejada was unreal...first time i have seen him DJ and he had the crowd eating out of his hand! dan bell rocked later on from 1:30-ish to 3-something, even dropping losing control with a sexy blend of driving techno and techhouse. and now...off to the festival. from the D, kered
RE: (313) Tim Pratt info????
hey there mr. arnold...somebody looking for me? you can hit me on my email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'll be traveling back to SF today so i probably won't be back online till thursday. i had a great time, as usual, in detroit. thanks to all the artists who performed for free at the festival. best, tP Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:58:48 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: john arnold Subject: (313) Tim Pratt info Message-ID: does anybody know how I can get in contact with Tim Pratt the writer for Free Press, xlr8tr, etc. thanks
(313) paging Yair Etziony
Can you please contact me privately, thanks fab.
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: RE: (313) minus pre-demf party? Anyone make it to the after party ? I bumped into a few of them at KDJ on monday night and they said the after party ended on noon friday. Those crazy kids... They basically threw everyone out, then I realized I could've gone if I had only stayed. Doh. Frankly, I'd had enough though. Magda and Clark Werner were good as usual. It was a trip to be in Necto again too. It was the first club I ever went to when they used to have teen night on Thursdays and the pre-midnight progressive thing on Sundays. A friend told me Mills used to spin there in that timeframe (around 87-88), although I would assume it was not on one of those nights. Anyone know? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement
Just before ESG went on the DJ played a track that had Welcome to my world of music (or something like that) as the main vocal hook. It was an extended workout with horns, percussion, and sounded like it fit neatly on any of the older disco labels. Any clues who it is? I'd like to hear it again. ESG did rock...I kept thinking it was kinda' like seeing an early Talking Heads with that minimal shuffle. Great show. Thanks. Leslie
RE: (313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement
Sounds like Moodymann - Music People... -Original Message- From: dj337is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 17:24 To: 'Placid'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement Just before ESG went on the DJ played a track that had Welcome to my world of music (or something like that) as the main vocal hook. It was an extended workout with horns, percussion, and sounded like it fit neatly on any of the older disco labels. Any clues who it is? I'd like to hear it again. ESG did rock...I kept thinking it was kinda' like seeing an early Talking Heads with that minimal shuffle. Great show. Thanks. Leslie
RE: (313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement
Welcome to my world of music (or something like that) Mass Production - Welcome to our world or, the Moodymann version (which just ripped the original) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement
Mass Production - Welcome to our world I'm guessing that it's this one over the MM one if Mass Production is from the 70/80s...the one I heard was definitely of an older style. Thanks everyone for the help! Leslie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement Welcome to my world of music (or something like that) Mass Production - Welcome to our world or, the Moodymann version (which just ripped the original) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
It was a trip to be in Necto again too. It was the first club I ever went to when they used to have teen night on Thursdays and the pre-midnight progressive thing on Sundays. A friend told me Mills used to spin there in that timeframe (around 87-88), although I would assume it was not on one of those nights. Anyone know? dunno.. but i used to go on those same nights in those years. ;)
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
Mills spun at the Nectarine Ballroom on Sundays from 86-88 i think. I went there the first weekend of school in the summer of 87. Got there AT 9pm...and the joint was empty. We were too young to know that the parties don't really start until 11. When we came back the walls were dripping. lks
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
- Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? Mills spun at the Nectarine Ballroom on Sundays from 86-88 i think. I went there the first weekend of school in the summer of 87. Got there AT 9pm...and the joint was empty. We were too young to know that the parties don't really start until 11. When we came back the walls were dripping. reminds me of the aliens movies no one was disembowled and eaten by a big giger-esque aliens were they? :P
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
- Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? Mills spun at the Nectarine Ballroom on Sundays from 86-88 i think. I went there the first weekend of school in the summer of 87. Got there AT 9pm...and the joint was empty. We were too young to know that the parties don't really start until 11. I imagine the fact that if anyone was there it was a ton of 14 year olds probably didn't help the vibe any [raises hand sheepishly]. ;) IIRC they would boot all the minors out soon before midnight, and then the real fun started (from which we youngins were excluded). Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Phonopsia wrote: - Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? Mills spun at the Nectarine Ballroom on Sundays from 86-88 i think. I went there the first weekend of school in the summer of 87. Got there AT 9pm...and the joint was empty. We were too young to know that the parties don't really start until 11. I imagine the fact that if anyone was there it was a ton of 14 year olds probably didn't help the vibe any [raises hand sheepishly]. ;) IIRC they would boot all the minors out soon before midnight, and then the real fun started (from which we youngins were excluded). OH. I understand what you were really asking now. They did NOT have kiddies (defined as being under 18). They DID have kids (i.e. 18 year old college freshmen). peace lks
(313) busted ?????
so what was te deal with all the busted parties this year? every party/show i attened this year was shut down early. detroit contempory on friday be it 5am and they were still serving, but on sunday when i played there they closed it down at 2:50/3ish and they stopped serving at 1:50, but the cop said she saw someone with a drink. not true. paxahau party it was cool that speedy j, stew, and keith, pole were there but it ended at 2am the ticket had question marks on it for the end time and the rumor was they were stopping live acts at 3am and then the special guests were playing. it seemed like this year was the year of busted parties. tried going to spite, guy at the door was like the cops are coming you have to leave? 7th city party busted. i know i'm missing some scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
(313) Saunderson's picks in URB?
Anyone have a copy of the latest URB with them? Cover is Atkins, Saunderson, and May. I'm wondering what the titles were for Saunderson's picks from the techno reviews section. By the way - anyone make it to the Unity party on Sat.? How was it - and Agoria specifically? thanks MEK
Re: (313) busted ?????
how was the speedy j set anyways? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: (313) busted ? so what was te deal with all the busted parties this year? every party/show i attened this year was shut down early. detroit contempory on friday be it 5am and they were still serving, but on sunday when i played there they closed it down at 2:50/3ish and they stopped serving at 1:50, but the cop said she saw someone with a drink. not true. paxahau party it was cool that speedy j, stew, and keith, pole were there but it ended at 2am the ticket had question marks on it for the end time and the rumor was they were stopping live acts at 3am and then the special guests were playing. it seemed like this year was the year of busted parties. tried going to spite, guy at the door was like the cops are coming you have to leave? 7th city party busted. i know i'm missing some scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
RE: (313) busted ?????
the parties that i went to / tried to go to that got busted were dan bell/tejeda and saunderson on sat night and on sunday the rob hood / suburban night party got it after we left. i'm sure there were a lot more. the cops walked into the KMS party @ the works on monday night but left after a little walk through. I stayed till kdj got off at around 6am + the party was still going w/ todd terry in the back. seems pretty random to me but if anyone has any good conspiracy theories i would love to hear them ;)! -Pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) busted ? so what was te deal with all the busted parties this year? every party/show i attened this year was shut down early. detroit contempory on friday be it 5am and they were still serving, but on sunday when i played there they closed it down at 2:50/3ish and they stopped serving at 1:50, but the cop said she saw someone with a drink. not true. paxahau party it was cool that speedy j, stew, and keith, pole were there but it ended at 2am the ticket had question marks on it for the end time and the rumor was they were stopping live acts at 3am and then the special guests were playing. it seemed like this year was the year of busted parties. tried going to spite, guy at the door was like the cops are coming you have to leave? 7th city party busted. i know i'm missing some scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
Re: (313) busted ?????
One more: Organic w/ Joe Claussel was busted at about 2:30 or 3. Before Joe even got on. lack of turn out plus the bust (plus paying $20 for about 1/2 hour of dancing) made the whole thing a bummer. J the parties that i went to / tried to go to that got busted were dan bell/tejeda and saunderson on sat night and on sunday the rob hood / suburban night party got it after we left. i'm sure there were a lot more. the cops walked into the KMS party @ the works on monday night but left after a little walk through. I stayed till kdj got off at around 6am + the party was still going w/ todd terry in the back. seems pretty random to me but if anyone has any good conspiracy theories i would love to hear them ;)! -Pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) busted ? so what was te deal with all the busted parties this year? every party/show i attened this year was shut down early. detroit contempory on friday be it 5am and they were still serving, but on sunday when i played there they closed it down at 2:50/3ish and they stopped serving at 1:50, but the cop said she saw someone with a drink. not true. paxahau party it was cool that speedy j, stew, and keith, pole were there but it ended at 2am the ticket had question marks on it for the end time and the rumor was they were stopping live acts at 3am and then the special guests were playing. it seemed like this year was the year of busted parties. tried going to spite, guy at the door was like the cops are coming you have to leave? 7th city party busted. i know i'm missing some scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com -- Knecht
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
- Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? They did NOT have kiddies (defined as being under 18). They DID have kids (i.e. 18 year old college freshmen). Hmm... I'm certain I was there on Thursdays when I was 14, and I'm pretty damn sure they did this on Sunday's through midnight too. Maybe they only opened it for kiddies on Sundays during the Summer or something??? Dunno. Mostly I was just curious if my first clubbing experience might have been Mills. I had a memory of some dude in a cowboy hat with crazy sideburns, but that booth used to be fairly obscured, so I wasn't sure who was on when, etc. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) busted ?????
I heard Friday night the Works was closed during Theo Parrish. I know that the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. Hood got shut down 40 minutes into his set Saturday as you said. I felt lucky to see all of Felton Howard though. Cannonball had no troubles AFAIK. I was there 'til 8:30, and I didn't notice anything anyway. Cops showed up at The Works on Monday and walked through, but didn't do anything. Whew! Guess I made out OK. After being in England for nine months, this was really bizarre for me. I know it's more tyranical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 7th city
dan bell rocked later on from 1:30-ish to 3-something, even dropping losing control ...and the pressure cooker, which made my night. t
RE: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB?
Went to Unity. Liked the venue a lot...very packard-esq inside. minus the trainspotting bathrooms, thank GOD! Some unknown dj spun until about 2ish, when Gene Farris FINALLY came on, his set was i-ight. (not much of house fan, so not a good judge) Kenny Larkin didn't come on till around 3:30, but tore it up! Around 3:00 they opened the additional room...which was pretty lame, as it was only below where a dj (?) was playing in the vip room...couldn't see the dj, and the sound was all muffled. So it was back to the main room... Left around 4:30 and it was still rockin. Guess it helped to attend a party that had something to do with Derrick and friends...as I don't think it ever got busted...did it? All in all...main point, it was nice to see Kenny again..wish he was around more these days. d$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB? Anyone have a copy of the latest URB with them? Cover is Atkins, Saunderson, and May. I'm wondering what the titles were for Saunderson's picks from the techno reviews section. By the way - anyone make it to the Unity party on Sat.? How was it - and Agoria specifically? thanks MEK
(313) speedy j (was: busted ?)
well I got there at 11pm and he was on. it was banging, very banging, high lights wereg-spot, electric delux, and panik attak. but most of his set sounded like the live speedy j 3x12 release on +8, think its called speedy j live. VD - was really cool but they stopped the show just as it was getting hot. and i like how security did that to. stood in front of him and shined his flashlight in his face. very rude way to treat the people who are making you money. i was upset the party eneded when it did and they did not let us know in advance it was ending at 2. maybe they did not??? but starting at party at 9pm when there is qualty talent at the festival was short sighted imo. i missed stewart walker and keith kemp. the fact that there was only three people per room on the flier makes me believe paxahau knew they could only go until 2am? but what do i know, i'm just nobody from lansing. i am under the impression the shelter stayed open until 4am all the time. except 5/24 one last comment. please mr police man let me have some legal fun. scotto ok i'm way bored at work. how was the speedy j set anyways?
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
I do believe Sundays used to be Teen Nights in the summer. The cowboy hat/sideburns guy was probably Stanley, a real nutcase that I'm surprised they let anywhere near children :) I worked in the Nectarine after Mills' day, after they remodelled and scaled down in 89/90. I was a bartender in the Sludge Club mainly, with occasional nights on security for big events. Those were the days, with Craig Tony spinning techno, house, hip hop, dancehall, whatever and John DJ Cyberpunk Courte upstairs spinning industrial techno... Phonopsia writes: Hmm... I'm certain I was there on Thursdays when I was 14, and I'm pretty damn sure they did this on Sunday's through midnight too. Maybe they only opened it for kiddies on Sundays during the Summer or something??? Dunno. Mostly I was just curious if my first clubbing experience might have been Mills. I had a memory of some dude in a cowboy hat with crazy sideburns, but that booth used to be fairly obscured, so I wasn't sure who was on when, etc.
RE: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB?
Stacy pullen was up there. I was up there for a while but got tired of the non-dancing music industry crowd. -Original Message- From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB? Went to Unity. Liked the venue a lot...very packard-esq inside. minus the trainspotting bathrooms, thank GOD! Some unknown dj spun until about 2ish, when Gene Farris FINALLY came on, his set was i-ight. (not much of house fan, so not a good judge) Kenny Larkin didn't come on till around 3:30, but tore it up! Around 3:00 they opened the additional room...which was pretty lame, as it was only below where a dj (?) was playing in the vip room...couldn't see the dj, and the sound was all muffled. So it was back to the main room... Left around 4:30 and it was still rockin. Guess it helped to attend a party that had something to do with Derrick and friends...as I don't think it ever got busted...did it? All in all...main point, it was nice to see Kenny again..wish he was around more these days. d$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB? Anyone have a copy of the latest URB with them? Cover is Atkins, Saunderson, and May. I'm wondering what the titles were for Saunderson's picks from the techno reviews section. By the way - anyone make it to the Unity party on Sat.? How was it - and Agoria specifically? thanks MEK
RE: (313) busted ?????
I know it's more tyrannical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? pffft...welcome to detroit... At one point there was an entire team on the detroit police force dedicated to busting partiesalthough at first it was the detroit GANG SQUAD that busted things up. Like these cops don't have better things to do in DETROIT!!! COME ON! -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted ? I heard Friday night the Works was closed during Theo Parrish. I know that the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. Hood got shut down 40 minutes into his set Saturday as you said. I felt lucky to see all of Felton Howard though. Cannonball had no troubles AFAIK. I was there 'til 8:30, and I didn't notice anything anyway. Cops showed up at The Works on Monday and walked through, but didn't do anything. Whew! Guess I made out OK. After being in England for nine months, this was really bizarre for me. I know it's more tyranical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB?
I knowwhat was up with the goth/industrial, I'm-too-cool-to-dance crowd...? -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:52 PM To: Darren Longton (Marketing); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB? Stacy pullen was up there. I was up there for a while but got tired of the non-dancing music industry crowd. -Original Message- From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB? Went to Unity. Liked the venue a lot...very packard-esq inside. minus the trainspotting bathrooms, thank GOD! Some unknown dj spun until about 2ish, when Gene Farris FINALLY came on, his set was i-ight. (not much of house fan, so not a good judge) Kenny Larkin didn't come on till around 3:30, but tore it up! Around 3:00 they opened the additional room...which was pretty lame, as it was only below where a dj (?) was playing in the vip room...couldn't see the dj, and the sound was all muffled. So it was back to the main room... Left around 4:30 and it was still rockin. Guess it helped to attend a party that had something to do with Derrick and friends...as I don't think it ever got busted...did it? All in all...main point, it was nice to see Kenny again..wish he was around more these days. d$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Saunderson's picks in URB? Anyone have a copy of the latest URB with them? Cover is Atkins, Saunderson, and May. I'm wondering what the titles were for Saunderson's picks from the techno reviews section. By the way - anyone make it to the Unity party on Sat.? How was it - and Agoria specifically? thanks MEK
Re: (313) busted ?????
there was that one summer... '95?... where they were busting everything in sight. got really ugly for a while.. women molested, guys beat up, equipment confiscated, broken, or both. summer of love in detroit. - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: RE: (313) busted ? I know it's more tyrannical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? pffft...welcome to detroit... At one point there was an entire team on the detroit police force dedicated to busting partiesalthough at first it was the detroit GANG SQUAD that busted things up. Like these cops don't have better things to do in DETROIT!!! COME ON! -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted ? I heard Friday night the Works was closed during Theo Parrish. I know that the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. Hood got shut down 40 minutes into his set Saturday as you said. I felt lucky to see all of Felton Howard though. Cannonball had no troubles AFAIK. I was there 'til 8:30, and I didn't notice anything anyway. Cops showed up at The Works on Monday and walked through, but didn't do anything. Whew! Guess I made out OK. After being in England for nine months, this was really bizarre for me. I know it's more tyranical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Phonopsia wrote: - Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? They did NOT have kiddies (defined as being under 18). They DID have kids (i.e. 18 year old college freshmen). Hmm... I'm certain I was there on Thursdays when I was 14, and I'm pretty damn sure they did this on Sunday's through midnight too. Maybe they only opened it for kiddies on Sundays during the Summer or something??? Dunno. Mostly I was just curious if my first clubbing experience might have been Mills. I had a memory of some dude in a cowboy hat with crazy sideburns, but that booth used to be fairly obscured, so I wasn't sure who was on when, etc. This may have happened. I just don't remember kids (real kids) being there. Mills looks pretty much the same now as he did then, short unassuming. Because he was in hiphop mode at the time he was pretty frantic on the tables no cowboy hats that i can recall. haha. lks
Re: (313) busted ?????
I like the parties that get busted within view of people selling drugs on the corner. thats detroit irony for you *cough laurent garnier cough* -Joe - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: RE: (313) busted ? I know it's more tyrannical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? pffft...welcome to detroit... At one point there was an entire team on the detroit police force dedicated to busting partiesalthough at first it was the detroit GANG SQUAD that busted things up. Like these cops don't have better things to do in DETROIT!!! COME ON! -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted ? I heard Friday night the Works was closed during Theo Parrish. I know that the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. Hood got shut down 40 minutes into his set Saturday as you said. I felt lucky to see all of Felton Howard though. Cannonball had no troubles AFAIK. I was there 'til 8:30, and I didn't notice anything anyway. Cops showed up at The Works on Monday and walked through, but didn't do anything. Whew! Guess I made out OK. After being in England for nine months, this was really bizarre for me. I know it's more tyranical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) busted ?????
I like the parties that get busted within view of people selling drugs on the corner. LOL...and I've seen just that, at LEAST 5 times! Cops priorities...pretty scary. -Original Message- From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:56 PM To: Darren Longton (Marketing); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted ? I like the parties that get busted within view of people selling drugs on the corner. thats detroit irony for you *cough laurent garnier cough* -Joe - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: RE: (313) busted ? I know it's more tyrannical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? pffft...welcome to detroit... At one point there was an entire team on the detroit police force dedicated to busting partiesalthough at first it was the detroit GANG SQUAD that busted things up. Like these cops don't have better things to do in DETROIT!!! COME ON! -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted ? I heard Friday night the Works was closed during Theo Parrish. I know that the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. Hood got shut down 40 minutes into his set Saturday as you said. I felt lucky to see all of Felton Howard though. Cannonball had no troubles AFAIK. I was there 'til 8:30, and I didn't notice anything anyway. Cops showed up at The Works on Monday and walked through, but didn't do anything. Whew! Guess I made out OK. After being in England for nine months, this was really bizarre for me. I know it's more tyranical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Re: busted????
Tristan Said: the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. I say: I thought we figured out why that party got shut down Tristan? :] TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ http://www.acidsonicresearch.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: (313) busted ?????
or DC on sunday when these guys drove up in a hudge suv and start some sh*t with my friends and then drive down the road and are out of there car fighting with locals. the cop who broke up the party just chose not to see any of that even though it happened right in front of her. i just think she was scared of the ghetto. i also liked the guys sellin mushrooms on the corner of congress and woodward, the guy standing next to them smoking a blunt, and the cops on the corner never noticed any of this. oh detroit. scotto lanisng, mi. plaztikjezuz.com I like the parties that get busted within view of people selling drugs on the corner. thats detroit irony for you *cough laurent garnier cough* -Joe
Re: (313) Re: busted????
not my fault was it? man that cop was looking at me and I just kept walking, i was like you dont see what i'm carring because i'm ot going to look at you. Tristan Said: the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. I say: I thought we figured out why that party got shut down Tristan? :] TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ http://www.acidsonicresearch.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: (313) minus pre-demf party?
yes... it was a church-group lock-in type party b/c the owner was worried about people coming and going between 2am and 7am (so once you were there, you were there to stay) so it was a little painful, but the night was occasionally revived by hawtin playing some old jams and some of his new material. the jams were, well, the jam, and his new stuff is something to look forward to, but a lot of the time the party was really sluggish and a lot of people cheated and left, so, fun concept, so-so execution. On Wed, 28 May 2003, Grammenos, Peter wrote: Anyone make it to the after party ? I bumped into a few of them at KDJ on monday night and they said the after party ended on noon friday. Those crazy kids... -pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:29 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? i had fun. magdas set was really good and i think i enjoyed it the most tonight. se played a couple of good acid house track like jesus loves the acid and a jackmaster track think it's called debasser? it's on the bang the box ep. and here usual minimal techno. excellent mixing rich came out kinda banging it dance floor style and it was cool for a bit but i had to get some fresh air so I headed to the patio and listen to clark for a while. very nice tarck selection. i went back in and rich was playing some minimal german stuff, to quote carlos the polka beat, they were some sick tracks. at one point he kinda stopped it for a minute and played this track with a dance hall bass line and the half time high hat, very cool track almost sounded plastikman? but not as much as the track he played twords the end it reminded me of hypokondriak. it had a simular bass line and effect on the bass line. rich was breaking it down a lot with the effects. is he using the mac version of final scratch? there was a fleet of powerbooks up there. 2 14 tibook and a 12 tibook someone said he uses one for his effects now? what was the deal with the lights? are those minus glasses going to be for sale? scotto
Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
not to mention that everyone was resting up for our radio show on friday night! :P - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) minus pre-demf party? yes... it was a church-group lock-in type party b/c the owner was worried about people coming and going between 2am and 7am (so once you were there, you were there to stay) so it was a little painful, but the night was occasionally revived by hawtin playing some old jams and some of his new material. the jams were, well, the jam, and his new stuff is something to look forward to, but a lot of the time the party was really sluggish and a lot of people cheated and left, so, fun concept, so-so execution. On Wed, 28 May 2003, Grammenos, Peter wrote: Anyone make it to the after party ? I bumped into a few of them at KDJ on monday night and they said the after party ended on noon friday. Those crazy kids... -pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:29 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party? i had fun. magdas set was really good and i think i enjoyed it the most tonight. se played a couple of good acid house track like jesus loves the acid and a jackmaster track think it's called debasser? it's on the bang the box ep. and here usual minimal techno. excellent mixing rich came out kinda banging it dance floor style and it was cool for a bit but i had to get some fresh air so I headed to the patio and listen to clark for a while. very nice tarck selection. i went back in and rich was playing some minimal german stuff, to quote carlos the polka beat, they were some sick tracks. at one point he kinda stopped it for a minute and played this track with a dance hall bass line and the half time high hat, very cool track almost sounded plastikman? but not as much as the track he played twords the end it reminded me of hypokondriak. it had a simular bass line and effect on the bass line. rich was breaking it down a lot with the effects. is he using the mac version of final scratch? there was a fleet of powerbooks up there. 2 14 tibook and a 12 tibook someone said he uses one for his effects now? what was the deal with the lights? are those minus glasses going to be for sale? scotto
Re: (313) Greetings from Detroit and Movement 2003 afterparty
Duplaix was great during the day the the High Tech Soul stage - which my wife and I thought was contender for best stage this year. His set at the Tangent on Sunday was good but not as diverse, the difference between playing during the day for lots of people and playing at night for a techno crowd I suppose. Francois K was a surprise - he played harder than I expected and I was a bit disappointed not to hear any house tracks thrown in. But damn, he really works it. A real treat to watch. The fashion show was a gas. May was as May does - brilliant. Too many moments to list but I will say Everything's Gone Pear-shaped was a delight to hear. Who ever did the lighting for that party deserves huge respect - and that tapestry they had hanging up with the woman's body and the Chakra points was superior. Every time I looked at it - it appeared different and it changed to the music. That thing really came alive and made for such a fantastic backdrop to watch everyone DJ. got to talk to chat with a guy who was a child of the Paradise Garage too. nearly ran smack into Juan Atkins hanging about outside as we came out the side door - nice way to end the evening. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sheralyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/03 01:12 PMcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Greetings from Detroit and Movement 2003 afterparty On Mon, 26 May 2003, Sheralyn wrote: time hearing Duplaix and he was alright. Francois K had a 2 1/2 or 3 hr set and I enjoyed him but I was very itchy to hear May. it seems that francois was overall considered more of an opener for may than a headliner in his own right-- what a shame. the sound didn't really get cranked until after he was done. i didn't mind TOO much, seeing how i was humping a speaker in the back anyway, but he played a nice set of driving techno (contrary to my expectations) that really would have deserved to be turned up a couple of notches. either way though, i couldn't have been happier with the stuff he played, i only regret not being able to dance more b/c i was MELTING. looked like a fun party though (i only stopped by for a minute), and it definitely gets a thumbs up for outraving those of us upstairs. Finally around 5:15 am, Detroit time, Derrick May started and just tore it up. He was brilliant, transcendant and a bunch of other words that my beat awash brain cannot articulate right now. I had to leave before the end of his set, because once again I came with someone who wanted to leave. (When will I learn to go by myself) When I emerged from the gallery May was still in there drivin em crazy and makin em sweat and the sun had emerged over the City that made helped birth House. I know this was long post but I'm still high and eubullient from the beats. :) P.S. looking forward to getting to know folks here. I've been lurking and reading for a few weeks before I posted. So many of you have wide technical knowledge of House/Techno music. Pretty amazing. Any one here in Detroit make sure to not miss Jeff Mills tonight, I'll be there with my comfy shoes on :)
Re: (313) busted ?????
all i've got to say to that is CANNONBALLL! the cannonball run went all night. =) obviously the carol marvin idea came up a lot. maybe kwame's got something to prove. i hear he's getting tired of the 'hip hop mayor' title. or maybe the police are just out to shoot themselves in the a$$ by ensuring that the 50% of festival attendees that come for the afterparties decide NOT to next year and let revenue generate itself. On Wed, 28 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so what was te deal with all the busted parties this year? every party/show i attened this year was shut down early. detroit contempory on friday be it 5am and they were still serving, but on sunday when i played there they closed it down at 2:50/3ish and they stopped serving at 1:50, but the cop said she saw someone with a drink. not true. paxahau party it was cool that speedy j, stew, and keith, pole were there but it ended at 2am the ticket had question marks on it for the end time and the rumor was they were stopping live acts at 3am and then the special guests were playing. it seemed like this year was the year of busted parties. tried going to spite, guy at the door was like the cops are coming you have to leave? 7th city party busted. i know i'm missing some scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
Re: (313) busted ?????
well we'll just have to go back to the old days were parties are more low-key. fwiw, I saw cops picking up flyers at movement, most likely to get an idea of where they would be wearing their riot gear later on in the evening -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) busted ? all i've got to say to that is CANNONBALLL! the cannonball run went all night. =) obviously the carol marvin idea came up a lot. maybe kwame's got something to prove. i hear he's getting tired of the 'hip hop mayor' title. or maybe the police are just out to shoot themselves in the a$$ by ensuring that the 50% of festival attendees that come for the afterparties decide NOT to next year and let revenue generate itself. On Wed, 28 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so what was te deal with all the busted parties this year? every party/show i attened this year was shut down early. detroit contempory on friday be it 5am and they were still serving, but on sunday when i played there they closed it down at 2:50/3ish and they stopped serving at 1:50, but the cop said she saw someone with a drink. not true. paxahau party it was cool that speedy j, stew, and keith, pole were there but it ended at 2am the ticket had question marks on it for the end time and the rumor was they were stopping live acts at 3am and then the special guests were playing. it seemed like this year was the year of busted parties. tried going to spite, guy at the door was like the cops are coming you have to leave? 7th city party busted. i know i'm missing some scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
Re: (313) busted ?????
Well, this is kinda amusing... on Friday night we were walking around - heading towards Greektown area to get some food, and this cop car pulls over another car into an alley right in front of us blocking the sidewalk. The passenger cop gets out and says 'better go around behind the car or you might get caught in the cross fire and then laughs. Then the driver cop gets out. He's wearing a skin-tight combat/swat stylee cop suit withblack combat boots had a small mohawk. We thought he looked very Nitzer Ebb or Skinny Puppy-esque. They were both white guys in their mid/late twenties. It did suck that the paxahau party ended so early - the space was kewl and yeah I heard rumours of it being extended. Also some people were saying richie Hawtin was gonna play there downstairs but then that was just rumour. The cops were pretty harassing outside and didn't want us standing around talking to people we met. I suppose that was loitering. Oh well. Dorks. The cops seemed to spend a lot of time over near the booth that was selling the shirts that said I Love D.I.C.K.. lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or DC on sunday when these guys drove up in a hudge suv and start some sh*t with my friends and then drive down the road and are out of there car fighting with locals. the cop who broke up the party just chose not to see any of that even though it happened right in front of her. i just think she was scared of the ghetto. i also liked the guys sellin mushrooms on the corner of congress and woodward, the guy standing next to them smoking a blunt, and the cops on the corner never noticed any of this. oh detroit. scotto lanisng, mi. plaztikjezuz.com I like the parties that get busted within view of people selling drugs on the corner. thats detroit irony for you *cough laurent garnier cough* -Joe
(313) Body Surfing and Moshing
so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage?
(313) movement weekend comments
yel:bad ass t-shirts, bad ass sound, great people yelling and dancing. Wasn't Huren supposed to be ambient? haha great set. Loved the styrofoam, it was beautiful seeing them all being used at the end of the night, THAT is a chill out space!!! Stewart Walker stopped at 11 Speedy went til 2, People did hang out in the shelter until 3-4 but NO music was played. I was told they were going to 3, as was the pissed off Vladislav. He was the funniest thing of the festival to me. It was Huren or Kemp who 1st told him to stop and he kept shrugging and playing and smoking a joint. ALL the security came up to him about 3 times, the the last one was like and put that damn joint out, do you want to get arrested.? Vlad shrugs again, then s l o w l y brings the fader down, watches said guy leave the room, takes a puff on the joint, then cranks the fader all the way back up. That's when the guy went ballistic with the light. Vlad NEVER put the joint out;) Speedy killed it literally one of the hardest relentless sets I have ever heard, and I was prepared and warned by all the paxahau crew before. I enjoyed, but damn dude give us one of your old classics, PLEASE. Can you imagine what would have happened if he could have encored with pullover or something for your mind?!?!?! 3 re-affirmations of faith nice talented fun people who are my favorite D-town peeps: Clark Warner, can anyone not love this guy's taste and infectious smile? Derrick Plaslaiko, does this guy ever not have fun? Kevin Reynolds (transmat?) holy shize, nice guy and if that c.d. he gave me is all his original material, oh my God Matthew Dear you have someone nipping on your heels. The best discovery of the weekend was that c.d.! HOT! Thanks last but not least getting to spend time in Ricardo Plastlaiko's Twilight zone. Yes, they were new PM trax and some new Ricardo Villalobos ones that sounded like that. Love the fact that Rich dropped mono-junk on Sahko 3 times in 12 hours...and that I have been fukking heads down here with it again. Nothing like serendipity. tschuss Detroit, until we meet again! Sent via the WebMail system at earconscious.com
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I was at the Pontch as well for the second year in a row and it was WAY more out of control this year. Last year, there was a big Judo convention at Cobo and many of those attendees were in the hotel. Also, all of the National Guard (about 100) that were helping with border security at the time were staying there as well. So no matter where you went, you were surrounded by people who could kick your arse if you acted up. As for the crowd surfing and moshing, we were discussing this at the media tent on Monday. I don't remember seeing it quite that bad in previous years. Two of the people I was working with were from a local media relations firm and not familiar with the techno scene. The rest of us were explaining that we were just as stunned as that is NOT something electronic music fans are into. I blame it on local teenagers who only came down because there was something going on at Hart Plaza. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:42:00 -0500 so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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no doubt. my boyfriend and i were standing on the sidewalk on jefferson after leaving the plaza when he turns to me and asks do you think the cops know that there's a kid laying on the ground? sure enough, there's a small boy on the ground in the middle of the sidewalk with a few passersby standing around him looking confused. five feet away, with their backs to the scene, the cops are hassling some drunk dude in a marijuana necklace. they didn't even notice the child on the sidewalk until we tapped them on the shoulder. way to serve and protect, boys. On Wed, 28 May 2003, Darren Longton (Marketing) wrote: LOL...and I've seen just that, at LEAST 5 times! Cops priorities...pretty scary. -Original Message- From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:56 PM To: Darren Longton (Marketing); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted ? I like the parties that get busted within view of people selling drugs on the corner. thats detroit irony for you *cough laurent garnier cough* -Joe - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: RE: (313) busted ? I know it's more tyrannical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? pffft...welcome to detroit... At one point there was an entire team on the detroit police force dedicated to busting partiesalthough at first it was the detroit GANG SQUAD that busted things up. Like these cops don't have better things to do in DETROIT!!! COME ON! -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted ? I heard Friday night the Works was closed during Theo Parrish. I know that the cop who busted the DC on Friday seemed to really have an agenda in doing so. Not sure what that was all about. Hood got shut down 40 minutes into his set Saturday as you said. I felt lucky to see all of Felton Howard though. Cannonball had no troubles AFAIK. I was there 'til 8:30, and I didn't notice anything anyway. Cops showed up at The Works on Monday and walked through, but didn't do anything. Whew! Guess I made out OK. After being in England for nine months, this was really bizarre for me. I know it's more tyranical than usual, but it just seemed so completely unnecessary. Why why why??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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He's wearing a skin-tight combat/swat stylee cop suit withblack combat boots had a small mohawk. We thought he looked very Nitzer Ebb or Skinny Puppy-esque. They were both white guys in their mid/late twenties. sounds like one of the cops (if you_can_call them that) was working undercover at the control 4 party. there was two of them, one was about 6' and skinny w/ the little mohawk. and the other guy was short and had a buzz cut if i remember right. they kinda stick out at that hawtin party, then next thing the one cops get there to bust it and they both flip out badges. it was funny they tried to buy drugs off of me in the elevator, i laughed because i knew they were cops, saw them breaking the party up. plus i'm not a drug dealer, nor do i even look like one, no bling bling outfit here. who knows whats up. rave act? well i guess it's back to house parties and basements scotto lansing, mi plaztikjezuz.com
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the Freep article on Tuesday had something like - it seemed like more of an excuse for kids to cut loose away from parental supervision - (I'm paraphrasing) I agreed wholeheartedly with the statement. MEK Carissa Tintinalli To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: mail.comSubject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing 05/28/03 03:05 PM I was at the Pontch as well for the second year in a row and it was WAY more out of control this year. Last year, there was a big Judo convention at Cobo and many of those attendees were in the hotel. Also, all of the National Guard (about 100) that were helping with border security at the time were staying there as well. So no matter where you went, you were surrounded by people who could kick your arse if you acted up. As for the crowd surfing and moshing, we were discussing this at the media tent on Monday. I don't remember seeing it quite that bad in previous years. Two of the people I was working with were from a local media relations firm and not familiar with the techno scene. The rest of us were explaining that we were just as stunned as that is NOT something electronic music fans are into. I blame it on local teenagers who only came down because there was something going on at Hart Plaza. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:42:00 -0500 so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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here is the article, in case anyone wants to read it. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move27_20030527.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:32 PM To: Carissa Tintinalli Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing the Freep article on Tuesday had something like - it seemed like more of an excuse for kids to cut loose away from parental supervision - (I'm paraphrasing) I agreed wholeheartedly with the statement. MEK Carissa Tintinalli To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: mail.comSubject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing 05/28/03 03:05 PM I was at the Pontch as well for the second year in a row and it was WAY more out of control this year. Last year, there was a big Judo convention at Cobo and many of those attendees were in the hotel. Also, all of the National Guard (about 100) that were helping with border security at the time were staying there as well. So no matter where you went, you were surrounded by people who could kick your arse if you acted up. As for the crowd surfing and moshing, we were discussing this at the media tent on Monday. I don't remember seeing it quite that bad in previous years. Two of the people I was working with were from a local media relations firm and not familiar with the techno scene. The rest of us were explaining that we were just as stunned as that is NOT something electronic music fans are into. I blame it on local teenagers who only came down because there was something going on at Hart Plaza. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:42:00 -0500 so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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Ah - there it is Amid all the sublime sensations, however, you got the feeling that for many teenage festival-goers, the event has become less about music and dancing than about escaping from the parents to cut loose -- often to excess. Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' urance.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/03 03:44 PMcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing here is the article, in case anyone wants to read it. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move27_20030527.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:32 PM To: Carissa Tintinalli Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing the Freep article on Tuesday had something like - it seemed like more of an excuse for kids to cut loose away from parental supervision - (I'm paraphrasing) I agreed wholeheartedly with the statement. MEK Carissa Tintinalli To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: mail.comSubject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing 05/28/03 03:05 PM I was at the Pontch as well for the second year in a row and it was WAY more out of control this year. Last year, there was a big Judo convention at Cobo and many of those attendees were in the hotel. Also, all of the National Guard (about 100) that were helping with border security at the time were staying there as well. So no matter where you went, you were surrounded by people who could kick your arse if you acted up. As for the crowd surfing and moshing, we were discussing this at the media tent on Monday. I don't remember seeing it quite that bad in previous years. Two of the people I was working with were from a local media relations firm and not familiar with the techno scene. The rest of us were explaining that we were just as stunned as that is NOT something electronic music fans are into. I blame it on local teenagers who only came down because there was something going on at Hart Plaza. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:42:00 -0500 so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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this was prbably the least wastyed i've seen hart plaza since the first year. at least there were no massage trains over by the fountain. On Wed, 28 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah - there it is Amid all the sublime sensations, however, you got the feeling that for many teenage festival-goers, the event has become less about music and dancing than about escaping from the parents to cut loose -- often to excess. Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' urance.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/03 03:44 PMcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing here is the article, in case anyone wants to read it. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move27_20030527.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:32 PM To: Carissa Tintinalli Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing the Freep article on Tuesday had something like - it seemed like more of an excuse for kids to cut loose away from parental supervision - (I'm paraphrasing) I agreed wholeheartedly with the statement. MEK Carissa Tintinalli To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: mail.comSubject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing 05/28/03 03:05 PM I was at the Pontch as well for the second year in a row and it was WAY more out of control this year. Last year, there was a big Judo convention at Cobo and many of those attendees were in the hotel. Also, all of the National Guard (about 100) that were helping with border security at the time were staying there as well. So no matter where you went, you were surrounded by people who could kick your arse if you acted up. As for the crowd surfing and moshing, we were discussing this at the media tent on Monday. I don't remember seeing it quite that bad in previous years. Two of the people I was working with were from a local media relations firm and not familiar with the techno scene. The rest of us were explaining that we were just as stunned as that is NOT something electronic music fans are into. I blame it on local teenagers who only came down because there was something going on at Hart Plaza. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:42:00 -0500 so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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[Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]] there was that one summer... '95?... where they were busting everything in sight. got really ugly for a while.. women molested, guys beat up, equipment confiscated, broken, or both. summer of love in detroit. Well, in Chicago they just outlawed everything. Take your pick... :( Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
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On the body surfing - we did notice that. It made the crowd seem very frat-boy-like. It seemed to be in full effect during the Jeff Mills set the last night. There were also really rude people coming through the crowd pushing their way through, not saying excuse me - and there was plenty of room where we were dancing. There was a guy with a little girl (his daughter maybe) of about 4-5 years old who almost got knocked over. Tall guys would just come up and stand right in front of you and then get attitude if you asked them politely to move 2 inches to the left or right so you could see (and again, there was plenty of room around). One guy did that to me and when I said 'hey dude you're blocking my view' he said 'well you can move' - so I looked at him kinda nasty and then he left. Some friends from Vancouver commented how rude the American crowd was. It wasn't the first time I'd heard that sadly. To be fair, there were many nice people too. One guy helped me climb up on something that was a bit too high for me to reach. :) I just wrote up something I'll post in a sec regarding the Pontch I totally agree w/ you on this. We thought it might be fun to see Digital Underground but the crowd there was so scary between that and the $10 entry fee we said forget it. We could hear the music from our room half the time it was decent the rest it was total cheesy club (imo). lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage?
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but places in chicago stay open until 4-5am On Wed, 28 May 2003, Matt Hellige wrote: [Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]] there was that one summer... '95?... where they were busting everything in sight. got really ugly for a while.. women molested, guys beat up, equipment confiscated, broken, or both. summer of love in detroit. Well, in Chicago they just outlawed everything. Take your pick... :( Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
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The cops also shut down numerous private loft parties that weekend. My theories: They don't think the festival is going to happen next year. The number of afterparties has gotten out of hand. They want to kill all the events being planned over the summer. - Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: RE: (313) busted ? the parties that i went to / tried to go to that got busted were dan bell/tejeda and saunderson on sat night and on sunday the rob hood / suburban night party got it after we left. i'm sure there were a lot more. the cops walked into the KMS party @ the works on monday night but left after a little walk through. I stayed till kdj got off at around 6am + the party was still going w/ todd terry in the back. seems pretty random to me but if anyone has any good conspiracy theories i would love to hear them ;)! -Pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) busted ? so what was te deal with all the busted parties this year? every party/show i attened this year was shut down early. detroit contempory on friday be it 5am and they were still serving, but on sunday when i played there they closed it down at 2:50/3ish and they stopped serving at 1:50, but the cop said she saw someone with a drink. not true. paxahau party it was cool that speedy j, stew, and keith, pole were there but it ended at 2am the ticket had question marks on it for the end time and the rumor was they were stopping live acts at 3am and then the special guests were playing. it seemed like this year was the year of busted parties. tried going to spite, guy at the door was like the cops are coming you have to leave? 7th city party busted. i know i'm missing some scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
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I noticed that the cops were regularly walking through the hippy area by the river and asking people to open their bags... this pretty much destroyed the usual scene for drug deals and pot smoke by the river... not to say that I didnt smell pot nearly every time I breathed in on monday, but by then I think people were ready to take chances. -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: RE: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing this was prbably the least wastyed i've seen hart plaza since the first year. at least there were no massage trains over by the fountain. On Wed, 28 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah - there it is Amid all the sublime sensations, however, you got the feeling that for many teenage festival-goers, the event has become less about music and dancing than about escaping from the parents to cut loose -- often to excess. Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' urance.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/03 03:44 PMcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing here is the article, in case anyone wants to read it. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move27_20030527.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:32 PM To: Carissa Tintinalli Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing the Freep article on Tuesday had something like - it seemed like more of an excuse for kids to cut loose away from parental supervision - (I'm paraphrasing) I agreed wholeheartedly with the statement. MEK Carissa Tintinalli To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: mail.comSubject: Re: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing 05/28/03 03:05 PM I was at the Pontch as well for the second year in a row and it was WAY more out of control this year. Last year, there was a big Judo convention at Cobo and many of those attendees were in the hotel. Also, all of the National Guard (about 100) that were helping with border security at the time were staying there as well. So no matter where you went, you were surrounded by people who could kick your arse if you acted up. As for the crowd surfing and moshing, we were discussing this at the media tent on Monday. I don't remember seeing it quite that bad in previous years. Two of the people I was working with were from a local media relations firm and not familiar with the techno scene. The rest of us were explaining that we were just as stunned as that is NOT something electronic music fans are into. I blame it on local teenagers who only came down because there was something going on at Hart Plaza. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:42:00 -0500 so the only low points for us were the attitudes and actions of a large number of people staying at the Pontchartrain. One couple apparently arrived well after their check-in time and lost their reservation - at which point the female of the couple proceeded to call the poor desk clerk every name in the book. We later saw her and her boyfriend fighting. The hallways were trashed, etc. I don't think the party on the terrace level helped in any way. Anyone go to that? The feeling in the hotel was more Miami/WMC than Detroit I thought. The two rooms on both sides of us were busted early Sunday morning and I think everyone was kicked out because it was really quiet after that. We heard several people (during the long elevator rides) saying they were being kicked out of the hotel. Hey Fred, you were staying there too - your thoughts? MEK p.s. so did a bus load of Pearl Jam fans make up portion of the crowd at the main stage? _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: RE: (313) Body Surfing and Moshing this was prbably the least wastyed i've seen hart plaza since the first year. at least there were no massage trains over by the fountain. Yeah. I had no idea about the body surfing, and only heard one passing comment about Pearl Jam. I think the wayward youth confined themselves to the main stage and the areas in between perhaps? Every year there's been tons of kids that didn't seem musically concerned in the periphery and non-musical center of the plaza. I spent almost all of my time on the High Tech Soul and Movement stages, and both had a great vibe from where I was sitting/standing. I spent very little time on the main stage and underground this year, so that could possibly account for the different perceptions??? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spent almost all of my time on the High Tech Soul and Movement stages, and both had a great vibe from where I was sitting/standing. I spent very little time on the main stage and underground this year, so that could possibly account for the different perceptions??? the movement stage was the main stage. did you mean the music institute tent? that and the high tech soul stage were my favorites by far, though the movement stage had alot of good stuff as well, it just usually lost out to the other stages. i only caught one performance on the underground stage (midwest product) though i had planned on trying to catch ESG liquid liquid and ectomorph i had to pick and choose and they all lost. that stage was pretty cool though. also, i did catch some body surfing during the 3 chairs on sunday night, though not very much. there was a ton of annoying crap going on around the left speaker stack during mills' set which is where i was. i wanted to sock the jock types all e'd to the gills and dancing with no shirt on running into people. tom andythepooh.com
