(313) test

2003-05-29 Thread glyph1001

testing 123...12



Re: (313) movement weekend comments

2003-05-29 Thread glyph1001


On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 03:41  PM, James Grindle wrote:

. Can you imagine what would have happened if he could have encored 
with pullover or something for your mind?!?!?!




interesting...nigel richards on saturday at the tronik treatment night 
at alvins, played something for your mind.   the cool thing was 
watching The Matrix I and a bootlegged-filmed-at-the-theater-copy of 
The Matrix: Reloaded on their big projection screen with driving techno 
running in the background.  nice.


g.



Re: (313) Planet E/Eevolute?

2003-04-07 Thread glyph1001


On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 01:46  PM, Klaas Jan Jongsma wrote:





It's awesome people have been mentioning Eevo stuff on
here lately. Stefan sure does deserve the respect.
Eevo Lute is one of my favorite record labels of all
time! There is talk of possibly re-releasing the 2000
and One 12 on eevo lute. Let's cross our fingers that
Stefan does! :)


To be honest he did not release his best material on Eevolute, my 
personal favourite are his to releases on GPR, Midioligy and My Mirror 
Image. Excellent stuff, if you do like the first eevolute records you 
do need to get your hands on these ones!


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Yep, I got those recs when they first came out and they're fabulous.  I 
also like that pinkish-red-clear vinyl one Stefan as Terrace did for 
DJAX, the one with Terrace in graffiti art on the label.  Plus the 
Florence one on DJAX as well, with the greenish cartoony/scribble art 
on label.  Can't remember the titles but I'm sure someone here does.  = 
)


g.




There are always updates on the Eevo Lute website so
check it out:

http://www.eevolute.net

There will be an EP from Terrace on down low as Alex
had mentioned coming out in early 2004.

minto

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UPCOMING 2003:
dL ltd tribute 12 dLpgccX
Polarius Jams from the funk dump dL009
Dan Curtin distort.archive.desire dL010
The Connection Machine Painless dLCMLP1






(313) Basic Channel on the Tube

2003-04-01 Thread glyph1001

Heard Maurizio's M5 on CSI: Miami.

I love it.  Should be more of this going on for Techno.

g.



Re: (313) DJ Shine (Jason Spanu) - Toronto?

2003-02-28 Thread glyph1001
I've heard of him.  He appeared/spun on this TV dance music programme 
in Montreal called Bouge.  Also djing on the same programme was DJ 
T-1000 and Christian Smith.  Shine's a pretty good DJ on that 
Techno-House tip.  On the show he said that he participated in DJ 
workshop, teaching people how to spin.  He said that spinning is a all 
about problem solving. If you can problem solve then you can easily 
learn to spin.  He also talked about releasing an album or compilation 
like you said.   This show took place Dec. 2001 so it should've been 
way out already.


Bouge is a darn good programme.  I wish they had shows like this in 
America.


g.

On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 01:18 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Anyone heard of this guy - I've got a compilation CD with a deep house
track by him that could easily slip onto a MoodsGrooves/Track Mode
release. I was wondering if anyone in Toronto has ever heard him play. 
Info
says he plays house and techno on three turntables alongside samplers 
and

effects.
just curious

MEK





Re: (313) this friday in detroit

2003-02-10 Thread glyph1001
isn't that Kevin Saunderson night happening on friday at the works?  but 
for the movie I recommendDaredevil!   ;-)   Looking forward to that 
one myself.


::) wrote:


valentines, is there anything going on friday in the D?

I'd like to do the dinner/movie/techno date with my girl, if possible.

thanks

-Joe




 






(313) Test

2003-01-19 Thread glyph1001

bonk*



Re: (313) I'm losing my edge. Was: What! Nothing about Lost? (rant)

2003-01-06 Thread glyph1001
Hey, you forgot to mention that you were there in Queens, NY circa 1979 
when they started breakdancing!  LMFAO!


G.


Tosh Cooey wrote:


I'm losing my edge, the kids are coming up from behind.

But I was there.

I was there, in the Paradise Garage DJ booth with Larry Levan.

I was there in Jamaica during the great soundclashes.

I was naked on the beach in Ibiza in 1988.

But I'm losing my edge.

Yes, you're all so special.

Tosh

 






Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)

2002-11-12 Thread glyph1001
I will have to agree with robin here and I'm from the US.  I read this 
article in an old DJ Magazine that talked about The Summer of Love 
and there was a part where someone would say (I'm paraphrasing here) 
you gonna rave? or have you raved yet? which meant taking a hit of e 
and going to a party and rave like mad.  Indeed the Acid House and 
Rave are one of the same. \ I suggest doing some research at the mag's 
website.




robin pinning wrote:


The rave scene started over there, as their answer to our Hip-Hop scene.
   


don't think that is truethe rave scene developed out of the northern
soul scene (from what i've read)...original rave music was acid house (the
other key ingredient to raves was the rapid take up of ecstacy at the same
time)
 


I don't agree that the Acid House Scene was the Rave Scene.  I think it was 
definetly
proto-rave, but I don't feel RAVE happened until after the Acid House Raids 
in 1989, and
1/2 the promoters went underground into the warehouses.  That is when the 
culture grew, and
it wasn't just a random occurence of club-rebellion.
   



hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :)

rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national
newspaper headlines!!), this was quite a bit before hardcore happened
which was 89/90 -

 


Hence all the
dancehall and street influences in the original Rave Music: Hardcore.
   


that came later...
 


nah, Hardcore started in 1987, with Lennie de Ice's We Are I.E., and the 
early SUAD
releases.
   



SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the
time) and i'm failry sure we are ie came out in 89 too (what a tune btw)


cheers

robin...


 






Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)

2002-11-06 Thread glyph1001

 Speaking of which

g.

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The Last DJ On Earth returns to Record Time Ferndale ! 


November 8th 2002
7-9 pm
262 W. Nine Mile Rd
one block west of Woodward

Hor d'oeuvres by La Soups, so come and eat to the beat
All Pure Sonik and Generator products are specially-priced

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www.puresonikrecords.net
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FC2 Richards wrote:


what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually does.
I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker!



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Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)


Amen Jeff!  It always bugs the hell out of me when the
self-elected party revolutionary leader stands up at
the show and starts yelling at people to start dancing.
If he/she needs other people to dance for them to fell
comfortable with dancing themselves, maybe they should
get drunk or something.  Bite me is what I usually
end up thinking...


On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

 


While I respect your opinion and understand that your
comments are made in 
the context of this discussion (and also that dance
music is ostensibly 
made for dancing), I have to say that I find the
   


notion
 

that someone gets 
to say how *I* need to react to something else in the
sense that I can be 
marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at
least as problematic as 
a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by
whomever. I don't dance 
and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma
or an ill formed 
sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't
enjoy the music nor 
does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a
performative context 
or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that
   


I
 

haven't left the 
venue should say something.

In an age where all kinds of criticism
(literary, etc.) has freed 
art from static notions tied with the artist, I find
   


it
 

interesting that 
the monolithic notion of must-dancing still rules. I
do understand the 
need for it and I understand how it creates a
   


necessary
 

symbiosis - but why 
does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them
   


to
 

enjoy and 
appreciate something?

We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable
with dancing as each 
other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any
behavior or reaction to art 
is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no
   


tie
 

between art and 
artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic
   


to
 

dictate behavior to 
a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this
particular post (as I 
can see the connection you are making vis a vis the
trend), but rather 
towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I
don't dance, I am 
unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really
about the music OR 
the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a
way which is genuine 
to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's

enjoyment. .02.


   

  


jeff


At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:
   


This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In
 


one respect, people go
   


to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the
 


other
 


respect, they go to
   


watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his
 


normal context and into
   


that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her
 


rather than interacting.
   


(another argument which I'm not going to pontificate
 


on here)  So you get
   


one half of the audience dancing and the other just
 


watching. This has been,
   


IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like
 


in recent years. Too
   


much watching, not enough dancing.

I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there
 


was
 


far too much of the
   


latter going on. You could see him actually looking
 


rather annoyed as one
   


absolute classic after another (Final Frontier,
 


Magnese) was being dropped
   


only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from
 


the
 


crowd. How must a DJ
   


feel when they are faced by banks of motionless
 


people
 


looking at them spin
   


some records?
 



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Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics

2002-11-06 Thread glyph1001
Since this thread talks about war and guns, I also recommend that 
everyone go see Michael Moore's new-ish film Bowling For Columbine. 
That one is a real kick in the head.


g.

Grammenos, Peter wrote:


It's feasible considering that when the us embassy was bombed in Sudan (99),
we refused to have the two al queda suspects extradited to the US along
with voluminous information on the al queda terrorist network which in
hindsight would have most probably helped prevent the attacks. CIA called
it the biggest intelligence blunder ever.

Sorry for the OT . This stuff gets me all riled up.

-Original Message-
From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:41 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics


last i'll say -- PLEASE read this if you haven't read it already. PLEASE.

if you dont wanna read an intro here's the link:
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html


grabbed off Global Darkness..:
 


---
The cover of either the Daily News or the Post (I can't keep them straight)
   



 

here in New York had a headline after the Predator aircraft took out 
those guys in Yemen that simply said ZAP! Isn't that messed up? Everyone 
and their mothers in America right now should read 1984 and then take a 
very critical look at the Bush administration and the mainstream media.


Speaking of which, Gore Vidal published a screed in the Observer (a Sunday 
paper published in the UK) entitled The Enemy Within, that claimed Bush 
had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and allowed them to happen in order 
to justify a Central Asian war, leading to U.S. control of oil resources 
throughout the region.


You can read the full 7,000-word essay here: 
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html
   




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Re: (313) Friction w/ Chris L

2002-10-26 Thread glyph1001



T.J.Johnson wrote:

Is Chris Leibing not the happiest DJ on earth?  

Oh yeah, he was in good spirits.  In a conversation before his set, he 
said he was very honored to play in Detroit and really liked the decor 
of the venue: exposed brick and all.  But hey, I'll take a happy DJ over 
someone standing there like a zombie anytime.  Chris has alot of 
personality on the decks (and even took some time out to snap some 
photos of the crowd during the set!) and I dig that.  Not to mention all 
that pumpin', fierce, angry Techno you can handle that he was spankin' 
people with which got everyone all riled up and cheering.   Nice!  You 
can really get your rocks off to that stuff, figuratively speaking.
:-)   Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to experience it in full 
force when he spun in the bunker at Tresor Love Parade this year.  I 
wasn't about to go down there again a 3rd night in a row because it was 
just TOO hot.   However, I heard the moisture down there crashed his 
Final Scratch (Doh!) and luckily he had brought some records with him to 
continue on with.  

It was also my first time hearing Acid Pimp and he was on fire too!  All 
in all, it was a great time last night.  And tomorrow, its off to see 
Christian Smith!  Whooohoo, finally there's some good Techno shows in 
the D that won't make me fall asleep.  Zzz.


Ta-ta,
g.



Did anyone else check him out last night?  It was
pretty energetic along the lines of DEX FX 909... 
Pretty interesting and fun!  He really grooves and that

definitely adds to the excitement...

T!

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Re: (313) Friction w/ Chris L

2002-10-25 Thread glyph1001

T.J.Johnson wrote:

Is Chris Leibing not the happiest DJ on earth?  



Yeah and that's cool.  I'll take that over someone who doesn't seem like 
they're having fun, standing there like a zombie.  Chris has alot of 
personality on the decks (and even took some time out to snap some 
photos of the crowd during the set!) and I dig that.  Not to mention all 
that pumpin', fierce, angry techno you can handly that he was playing 
which got everyone all riled up and cheering.   Nice!  You can really 
get your rocks off to it, figuratively speaking.   :-)  Unfortunately, I 
didn't get a chance to experience it full force when I was at Tresor 
Love Parade this year.  He spun in the bunker and I wasn't about to go 
down there again a 3rd night in a row because it was TOO bloody hot.   
However, I heard the moisture down there crashed his Final Scratch and 
luckily he had brought some records with him to continue on with.


It was also the first time I heard Acid Pimp and he was on fire too!  

All in all, it was a great time last night.  Tomorrow, its off to see 
Christian Smith!  Finally! There's some good techno shows in the D.


Ta-ta,
g.



Did anyone else check him out last night?  It was
pretty energetic along the lines of DEX FX 909... 
Pretty interesting and fun!  He really grooves and that

definitely adds to the excitement...

T!

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(313) double posts

2002-10-25 Thread glyph1001
sorry guys if you get double posts from me.  i wasn't sure if it when 
through the first time and had rewrite them over again.


ack,
g.



Re: (313) Betr.: (313) MatrixPreviews

2002-10-24 Thread glyph1001

I believe that would be Gerrard Jensen from Texas?

g.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, who made the convextion-record? Was it also Sean Deason? Great
tracks...


Thanks, Remco



 






Re: (313) Betr.: (313) MatrixPreviews

2002-10-24 Thread glyph1001

Is it Gerrard Jensen from Texas?

g.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, who made the convextion-record? Was it also Sean Deason? Great
tracks...


Thanks, Remco



 






Re: (313) Betr.: (313) MatrixPreviews

2002-10-24 Thread glyph1001

woops, sorry for posting twice...

glyph1001 wrote:


Is it Gerrard Jensen from Texas?

g.


I believe that would be Gerrard Jensen from Texas?

g.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, who made the convextion-record? Was it also Sean Deason? Great
tracks...


Thanks, Remco



 










Re: (313) Mailing lists?

2002-10-24 Thread glyph1001

I think he meant SNAIL mail-ing lists.

g.

logic7 wrote:


The only way i've ever recieved free records was from the artists handing
them to me. Never knew that one could get 'em from a mailing list.

-Original Message-
From: s mcgill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:12 PM
To: 313
Subject: (313) Mailing lists?


Does anybody out there have any idea on how to get on record mailing lists.

I have been djing for years and never got a one record free, apart from
ooops sorry, Claude Young  and James Ruskin. Seriously though, I have my own
club night too and don't know what I should do, any advice?

Cheers
Scott McGill
www.tfunkshun.com



 






Re: (313) new NSC release

2002-10-15 Thread glyph1001
I heard this one and its a happy, knee-slapping, feet stompin', 
hands-in-the-air tune. :-) Good schtuff.


g.

Simon Walley wrote:


MP3 snippet : http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF102673.mp3


From juno.co.uk:



DR FEELGOOD  HIS FUNKY INTERNS: Dee-Dee-Dee (Yes-Yes-Yes) (NSC US) 
(MP3) - Techno
12: Dee-Dee-Dee (Yes-Yes-Yes) (vocal mix, instrumental dub)/Think 
Twice Before You Go (NSC 7) [6.99] - add


Simon


From: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: (313) new NSC release
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:48:00 +1000

anyone heard:


NSC-7/8 DR. FEELGOOD  HIS FUNKY INTERNS



new NSC? with UR, Shake, KMS, Vmax, Rob hood contributing to past 
releases

I'm keen to know who's behind this one

Rc






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Re: (313) Laura Gavoor...

2002-10-01 Thread glyph1001

No...I'm afraid its true. An aneurysm caused it.

Thoughts and prayers to her family  friends.

g.

Tosh Cooey wrote:


Somebody please tell me I am only hearing a bad joke about Laura.

Tosh

 






Re: (313) claude young contacts

2002-09-27 Thread glyph1001

try www.claudeyoung.com

g.

moog wrote:


hey we really want to try and bring him to play with us, any chance for his
contacts?

kind regards
yair.


 






(313) [Fwd: gear for sale]

2002-09-26 Thread glyph1001

 In case anyone is interested.

g.

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Subject: gear for sale
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:10:23 EDT
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Roland SP-808 groove sampler
Hyper-Stylized Life machine
w/ manual
$500 USD

Roland R-8 
used on almost every Pure Sonik record
w/manual + expansion dance card 
$375 USD or trade for 
Emu Planet Phatt or

Mo' Phatt

US only please.
You pay shipping.

E-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call
313-417-4471

Thanks,

Alan





Re: [313] Religious producers/DJ's (was: TERRENCE PARKER)

2002-09-17 Thread glyph1001
 they're worth that but they 
actually care.


Unquote--

What I see happen alot and it kills me, is how these people be sleeping 
on it and time go by, then they complain they're not where they want to 
be and lay the blame on other factors.  I can not tell you how much of 
that I see going on and the real fact is that they're a bunch of lazy 
wankers trying to perpetrate.


So think of all the djs you feel deserve a chance and figure out how 
many are doing absolutely everything that needs to be done to hang with 
the big boys, and most importantly developing the right mental attitude 
or 'awareness' to obtain that chance.  I doubt there are many.


I have to give TP alot of credit because here's a guy, with a career 
lasting over 20 years, CHOOSING to retire.  Being able to have that 
freedom to choose is admirable.  And the reason for his retirement is 
not because of some young talent making him feel obsolete either.  He's 
just a man with nothing to lose, but with much to gain and I wish him 
the best of luck in this new phase of his life.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


there are some old dudes who are still relevant. but there's a lot of them
who are still djing just because they don't know what else to do with
their lives. but they seem to have no interest in new music, new sounds,
or new ideas.

and that's why the new generation of kids (at least here in america)
aren't flocking to events like they used to.


now granted- its not all the djs fault. its the fault of promoters who
won't take a chance and book new talent. and its also the fault of the
public who only go check out a dj if its a tried and tested name.

its a viscious cycle that is eating away at our music. yes- there are some
exceptions. recloose is a new, young exciting name. the perlon guys are
experiencing some new found popularity. i guess its mostly tied to
production. if you can get you're records out there, you can get your name
out. it just frustated me that i know so many great djs who could smoke
the 'famous' dudes, but never get the chance.





On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, glyph1001 wrote:

 


Why should veteran jocks need to quit before they're ready to?  If
there's great young talent out there, then they can step up regardless
of so-called tired jocks.  Its up to the young djs with talent to
knock the old guys out the box,  not the old guys graciously stepping
out of the way for them just because they're the younger generation.

Just my 2 cents,

g.

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There's actually a lot of tired old jocks (not saying TP is one) who need
to retire so some newer, younger talent can step up.






On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, T.J.Johnson wrote:



 


Everybody retires at some point in their life!  I bet
that all of y'all people who are bitchin' about TP
realizing his time are jealous that you can't retire
after 20 years of service!!!


I don't care if it is music or not.  When something
becomes your job, it is just that--your job.  You will
get sick of it.  You will make enough money then quit
happily!!!

T!

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Re: [313] Religious producers/DJ's (was: TERRENCE PARKER)

2002-09-15 Thread glyph1001
Why should veteran jocks need to quit before they're ready to?  If 
there's great young talent out there, then they can step up regardless 
of so-called tired jocks.  Its up to the young djs with talent to 
knock the old guys out the box,  not the old guys graciously stepping 
out of the way for them just because they're the younger generation.  


Just my 2 cents,

g.

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There's actually a lot of tired old jocks (not saying TP is one) who need
to retire so some newer, younger talent can step up.






On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, T.J.Johnson wrote:

 


Everybody retires at some point in their life!  I bet
that all of y'all people who are bitchin' about TP
realizing his time are jealous that you can't retire
after 20 years of service!!!


I don't care if it is music or not.  When something
becomes your job, it is just that--your job.  You will
get sick of it.  You will make enough money then quit
happily!!!

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Re: [313] your most soulful DJ?

2002-08-10 Thread glyph1001
Hells yeah and Marco Carolla.  His set at Globus (Tresor) during Love 
Parade 2002 was off the freakin' chain.  He's such a bad ass. :-)
And funky, soulful German, DJ Tom Clark.  


g.

FC3 Richards wrote:


Only one really


DJ T-1000


he destroys the floor everytime he plays...

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Also - maybe it's not just one person - give me a list of top 5, 10...
whoever you'd pay time and again to see because you know you're going to
walk out floating on clouds

I'm really curious (and it'll give me a list of people to check out
possibly)
MEK





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  cc:

 08/09/02 02:36 PMSubject:  [313] your most
soulful DJ?   









Hey all-
I know it's a big and open question to ask but I'm curious to hear who - in
your own opinion- is the most soulful DJ. What I mean is - for you who is
the one whose got it and manages to bring it to your heart every time.
And I'm talking only DJs here.

Now I know that people will want to argue about what is soulful and what
isn't - personally I don't care - and I really don't want to hear any
negative comments please - I'm just interested in the positive. I don't
want to see this go down as a Richie Hawtin doesn't play soul music
thread - if your grandma is the most soulful let me know and I'll respect
your opinion. Give some examples or details if you want.

I'm not looking to stir up controversy - just want to see who makes the
list(s).

Please keep this a fun discussion (argue off list).


MEK




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Re: [313] Dave Tarrida

2002-08-08 Thread glyph1001

I have this and here's the tracklisting and you can judge for yourself:

01. Raiders of the Lost Arp - Funk 002 (combo)/Plasmek
02. Smash TV - I Love You Now / B Pitch Control
03. Tobias Schmidt - Make Me / Tresor
04. Christian Vogel - Diggin Fo Da Earth Gamba / Exclusive
05. Aeox - She's Gotta Gun / Mental Industries
06. Tobias Schmidt - This Is Your.../ Exclusive
07. Steve Glencross - Running Down / Exclusive
08. Spoof - Soopa Bass / Missle
09. Mick Willis - Kill! Kill! / International Deejay Gigolo
10. Digital Princezz - Out of Focus / Mosquito
11. Si Futures - Freestyle Disco (Hakan Libdo remix)/ Novamute
12. Dave Tarrida - Terminally Yours / Exclusive
13. The Mover - Frontal Sickness / ACA
14. Black Ops - Untitled / B Rave
15. Subhead - In The Blue Corner / Sativae
16. Wilko - Feel The Base / Pimp
17. Dave Tarrida - Music For Victims / Exclusive
18. Lamonde - Dr. Smith (Tarrida Remix) / Feis
19. Si Begg - Sound Equipment / Sativae
20. Neil Landstrumm  The Horroist - The Boy Who Held His Breath Too
Long / Exclusive
21. Tube Jerk - Blue Lip /  Exclusive
22. Anthony Lynn - Substances Illicites / Kobayashi
23. Dave Tarrida - Cracking Mirrors / Exclusive

Its a mix of, 80's industrial-ish, Electro-clashy noise  techno  with funk and 
is pretty good for home  car listening .

But that's just me.

G.

Martijn de Blaauw wrote:

Hi all,

Anybody have an opinion on this mixalbum from Dave Tarrida on Tresor ´Dave
Tarrida plays records´?
Is it any good, worth buying? or a bit to freaky...?

Thanx,

Martijn de Blaauw

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[313] Theremin/Electronic Odyssey

2002-06-18 Thread glyph1001
I'm watching this documentary on cable at this moment and its pretty 
darn interesting.  

Its a profile of Leon Theremin, the inventor of the electronic musical 
synthesizer that bears his name, follows his early days spent developing 
and perfecting the instrument and explains what happened in subsequent 
years after he was abducted by the KGB in the Mid-1930's.


Features comments by musicians Todd Rundgren, Brian Wilson, and Clara 
Rockmore, plus inventor Robert Moog, and Theremin himself.



Has anyone else seen this?

g.


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Re: [313] Theremin/Electronic Odyssey

2002-06-18 Thread glyph1001

Channel 375 Starz Cinema East

g.

Alexandres Lugo wrote:


what channel?

Peace,
Alex
www.fulcruminn.net


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Theremin/Electronic Odyssey


I'm watching this documentary on cable at this moment and its pretty 
darn interesting.  

Its a profile of Leon Theremin, the inventor of the electronic musical 
synthesizer that bears his name, follows his early days spent developing 
and perfecting the instrument and explains what happened in subsequent 
years after he was abducted by the KGB in the Mid-1930's.


Features comments by musicians Todd Rundgren, Brian Wilson, and Clara 
Rockmore, plus inventor Robert Moog, and Theremin himself.



Has anyone else seen this?

g.


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Re: [313] Theremin/Electronic Odyssey

2002-06-18 Thread glyph1001

Whoops, my bad...posted private message by mistake.

g.

glyph1001 wrote:


Channel 375 Starz Cinema East

g.

Alexandres Lugo wrote:


what channel?

Peace,
Alex
www.fulcruminn.net


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From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Theremin/Electronic Odyssey


I'm watching this documentary on cable at this moment and its pretty 
darn interesting. 
Its a profile of Leon Theremin, the inventor of the electronic 
musical synthesizer that bears his name, follows his early days spent 
developing and perfecting the instrument and explains what happened 
in subsequent years after he was abducted by the KGB in the Mid-1930's.


Features comments by musicians Todd Rundgren, Brian Wilson, and Clara 
Rockmore, plus inventor Robert Moog, and Theremin himself.



Has anyone else seen this?

g.


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Re: [313] Finally A Conference About the Business...

2002-06-14 Thread glyph1001

This is a nice one!  And in Vegas too!   :-)

One thing I wish they would have is an 'in' towards the movie industry 
where movies houses can license music from indie electronic/dance labels.


Nonetheless, its looks like a great conference.

g.

SOS wrote:

Finally a Conference about the Music Business and the little people 
like US can afford to go...


Check out www.dancetechconference.com site about a cool conference
Their E-Mail Address:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

SOS will be there...


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Re: [313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved

2002-06-14 Thread glyph1001

check with www.erikarecords.com for a more accurate price

but I got vinyl plastic sleeves from them @ 0.50 each + freight

and they will also ship them to your specified pressing plant for 
packing upon request.


g.

SOS wrote:


Does anyone have a good lead/price on plastic jacket sleeves...
If you can give a general price if you have one for 500 - 1000 pieces...

Peace


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Re: [313] (OT) Detroit got balls

2002-06-13 Thread glyph1001
Yeah be on topic next time or you'll get the same fate as the man in the 
article!


snip!

j/k  :-)

lates,

g.


:P wrote:


not only is this totally off topic and a waste of everyones time, its a
shoddy piece of writing.

kerb?

lol

sorry Tim,
-Joe


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[313] Montini - The Reunion

2002-06-13 Thread glyph1001

Does anyone have the tracklisting for this Belgium techno comp?

I checked their website, no luck.

g.


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Re: [313] Grr! (final?) Shari Vari Lyrics

2002-06-12 Thread glyph1001



Roland van Oorschot wrote:



Heading for the heighest heights




Could 'heighest' be 'highest'?

:-)

g.




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Re: [313] Italo disco top fives anyone?

2002-06-12 Thread glyph1001

Wow, lots of great picks mentioned...here's a few to add to the list:

Gino Socio: I Remember (Atlantic Records)
Koto: Visitors (label ?)
Fun Fun: Happy Station (or anything by them)(label ?)
RIS: Lovin' Music (Proto label)
Wet: That's The Game (label ?)

g.



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Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit

2002-06-11 Thread glyph1001
I kinda agree with what the article says about Detroit.  Especially 
where it notes that Detroit is basically a city that shuns on forward 
thinking or creative ideas (Techno and The Heidlburg Projects are 
perfect examples).  I mean sheesh, it took THIS long to have a DEMF in 
Detroit where this music has been around for almost 20 years!


And quote

They created a lifestyle mentality, where Pittsburgh and Detroit were 
still trapped in that Protestant-ethic/bohemian-ethic split, where 
people were saying, You can't have fun! or What do you mean play in a 
rock band? Cut your hair and go to work, son. That's what's important.   

This is so true because I've heard this from Detroiters I know who are 
creative whose parents would tell them basically that...get a blue 
collar job instead of doing music or art or whatever...but until they 
see that you're successful in it (and they'll only understand it when 
you're sucessful in it), their attitudes don't change because all they 
understand is a job with a little security, a small house, a wife or a 
husband, kids...the normal life.  But from what I was told it takes 
people in Detroit a long time to see potential in creativity and new 
ideas.  That's just the way it is.   


Lates,

g.

Fred Heutte wrote:


I don't subscribe to a lot of the theorizing in this article, but
it's interesting -- about recent research done on the role of the
creative class in revitalizing cities.

In fact, Detroit has a pretty active creative class (the electronic
music scene is even mentioned obliquely in the article, but nothing
else, showing how little either the author or researcher seem to 
know about the city), and the *potential* exists, as we've all 
known, for this to spur the true rebirth of the city.  We'll see

whether the new mayor rises to that challenge.

Anyway, 313 related but not exactly electronic music related:

http://www.salon.com/books/int/2002/06/06/florida/index.html


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...

2002-06-01 Thread glyph1001
Did you also hear that blow horn?   :-)Everytime it was blown, the 
crowd would cheer right after it.  


g.

Greg Earle wrote:


Hi all -

I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone
get a chance to see him


I heard the same thing, and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix
that is the proverbial sh*t.



He played said remix at the end of his set.  It was the sh*t.

This year's DEMF was all about Detroit Moments for me.

Clarke's set was one of them.  I haven't seen a crowd (absolutely rammed)
go so ballistic in *years*.  He *completely* killed it.  Perfect.  (Well ...
I wouldn't have minded some Electro; it was sorta a sparse weekend, Electro
wise)

And when, during Red 2, a thousand or so of 'em started the
DE-troit!  DE-troit!  DE-troit! chant - totally spontaneously -
I could've cried.  THAT was truly a Detroit Moment[tm].

Every so often I say to myself, Self, you're approaching 44, you've got
a drop-dead gorgeous ex-model girlfriend who doesn't like Techno, maybe
it's time to quit dressing like a kid and grow up and wear Sensible Middle
Aged Male All-Black Clothing and move on with your life.

Then I see stuff like Clarkey's set and it reminds me of The Heyday[tm]
of my raving years and I remember why I love the music and events like
that, and I say Hah.  Fcuk that sh*t.

:)

- Greg (who hung out with Dave marmoset Walker a couple of times)

I'm a simple man.  Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm happy.
- Otto Koppius



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Re: [313] DEMF sets that you where impressed with

2002-05-29 Thread glyph1001
I thought Dave Clarke had the best set.  He did play some electro-type 
stuff towards the end.  He started it off with Juan Atkin's No UFO's.  


g.

Catherine Eberhardt wrote:


I liked Steve Rachmad's set- first time seeing him, and Marco Carola's
set.  I missed Jay Langa but I wanted to see him.  Oh well...  I was
dissapointed in Dave Clarke's set- was hoping for electro...

The sets that were most impressive were outside of DEMF- Rolando at the
UR party on Saturday and Marco vs. Adam Beyer on 4 tables last night was
far superior to anything I saw at the festival. 


Did anyone see Luomo play on Saturday at Panacea?  I wanted to go but by
the time I got there at 1 AM all I heard was european techno and I asked
if Luomo was going to play or did I miss it and the stupid idiots at the
door said that Luomo was on now...  I was aggravated so I left, I'm sad
if I missed Luomo.  Anyone have a review of this night? 


Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/02 16:37 PM 



Other favorites--Jay Langa with a welcome to Detroit set of UR
classics


i'll raise my mug to that. though i was there for about an 90
minutes max,
i was most impressed
by Mr. Langa's selections. it's just a damn shame they didn't
have him on
later/on a better
stage in front of more people.



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Re: [313] RE: Liquid Metal Meltdown

2002-05-23 Thread Glyph1001
Nah, that was actually Juan Atkins, speaking at a New Music Seminar wa 
back in the day.   Hehehe, that quote still trips me out even today.  I also 
love that soundbite from Revolutions of Change.  It really hypes you up.

g.


In a message dated 05/23/02 11:29:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 anyone know if thats also where the intro to ben sims detroit mix

(http://www.bensims.com/  comes from???


if you're gonna call it techno, know what techno is. buy some $hit from

detroit and then you'll find out


 

In a message dated 05/23/02 3:37:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 as i recall it's either Rob Hood or Alan Oldham.  it's taken the Utrecht 
show on the world tour that UR did back in 1991 or 1992.

the speech is featured in the intro section to UR Live in Utrecht, Holland 
which is on the Underground Resistance Revolution for Change album on 
Network, and a shorter (slightly different?) version is also on the fairly 
scarce DJ T-1000 Liquid Metal Meltdown 10 on Generator. 

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Re: [313] re:(OT) JanD interview is up (word__

2002-05-19 Thread glyph1001
Nope, I'm afraid I don't see any illustrations or links on the 
emails/posts I'm getting.


g.

PhedX wrote:


word the link to the qt which is the interview word is at the bottom
underneath the illustration word

word it works here word... is it working for you peeps word?



:) (thankx) word






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Re: [313] re:(OT) JanD interview is up

2002-05-18 Thread glyph1001

a link to the interview would help.   :-)

g.

PhedX wrote:


Hey all find out a little bit about JanD.  She has been spinning at numbers.
The lady spins Electro and is fresh.  So check it out,  I am converting the
cd now...

audio samples from her CDsampler up tomorrow am


phedx 



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Re: [313] RE: (313) DJ ESP on Generator

2002-05-15 Thread glyph1001

Site just up: www.generatormusic.com



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


h GEN009... My favorite Generator release! Woody at his best! Isn't that
Telesender record on Generator by ESP as well?

As to a German Generator label, I only know of a Generation or Generatio label
that apearred around that same time.

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Subject: [313] DJ ESP on Generator


here is a tough question

I have this release on Generator records from a few years back by DJ ESP.
It says that plainly on the label.  And inscribed on the wax itself is the
GEN009 matrix number for the release.  It is a double pack and is (i
believe) called Transporter.  Now why is it that when you go to the pure
sonic web page and look at the Generator release's GEN009 is clearly not
listed.  Was this never released to the public, or is this a release on the
other Generator records out of Germany.  I am assuming it is AO's Generator
because of the fact that Woody did plenty of work with him in the past.
HELP...Mr Oldham maybe your explanation would be the best.

jeff

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Re: [313] advice? from seattle to demf.

2002-05-15 Thread glyph1001

Isn't there a Blue Nile (also Ethiopian)  in Greek Town also?

g.

Andy Kellman wrote:


:P said:
general FYI, priceline.com is running a sale on airline tickets right now.

And if you can get out here during the day Friday, you can catch Eddie Money
in Clarkston.


Andy

(Whose favorite place for vegetarian eats -- it's Ethiopian, specifically --
is The Blue Nile on 9 Mile in Ferndale, a block west of Record Time Jr.)


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Re: [313] RE: DEMF hotels

2002-05-10 Thread glyph1001
check out Days Inn on Jefferson: www.daysinn.com; locate the hotel by 
clicking reservations and locations.  i check the rates and its as low 
as $67.96 and high as $119.95.  The dates I used is May 24th through May 
28 so it can be more or less according to how long you're staying.


Days Inn
3250 E. Jefferson
Detroit, Michigan, 48207
United States
313-568-2000


check out Comfort Inn on Jefferson: www.comfortinn.com or 
www.sleepinn.com and choose 'Comfort Inn' at the 'Select Brand' pull 
down menu; locate the hotel by clicking reservations and locations.  i 
check the rates and its as low as $109.00 a night and high as $159.00  


Comfort Inn Downtown
1999 E. Jefferson Ave.
Detroit, MI, US (313) 567-

if I find more I'll let you guys know.

g.

Carissa Tintinalli wrote:

I got my room at the Ponchartrain through Travelocity for $80/night 
but they aren't offering that price anymore. The hotel is also 
completely booked Fri. May 24th and Sat. May 25th.


Priceline was offering $60-$70 rooms at the Courtyard Marriot but they 
don't accept non-US credit cards (which is why I went through 
Travelocity). And as the official DEMF hotel they are most likely 
completely booked.


I believe there's still room at the Best Western although the rooms 
are going for $130 and up. The same goes for the RenCen (even more 
expensive...$160 and up).You might want to try the Ramada on 
Cassit's a few blocks away but definitely cheaper.


Does anyone still have a copy of the 313 DEMF Guide from last year? 
Maybe a repost (it used to be on the technotourist site) would help 
some out people out :)


From: Pryor, Ryan N To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org 
Subject: [313] DEMF Hotels Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 18:21:12 -0400


I recently saw a deal for The Ponchatrain. $80 a night // 2 beds= $20 
a night per person. I will see if I can hunt down a link to the site 
to post, but just be aware there are good deals on nice downtown 
hotels Memorial Day weekend :)


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Re: [313] DEMF Update

2002-05-09 Thread glyph1001
What do you mean?  There are Detroit DJs/acts performing this year.  Or 
you meant to say that there's too many unknown Detroit acts that are not 
the ones you like or expect?  All those expected to play have pretty 
much played already, except Mills, Young, Hood, all of whom were 
contacted, asked and/or invited to play but were unavailable.


G.

PhedX wrote:


I would be happy with more Detroiters too.  They (the comittee) we nt outta
their way not to pick from the DETROIT crowd...


R e p r e s e n t...


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002

2002-05-06 Thread glyph1001
Nope, Tang has always been on the list.  Further info on this artist is 
at www.emphasisrecordings.com.


Cheers! :-)

g.

Jongsma, K.J. wrote:


I noticed a few changes in the DEMF 2002 line-up,

Electric Indigo is suddenly doing a live-set. Green Velvet is bringing some
green friends because it's now Green Velvet  The Rejects. New on the list
are the People Movement, Dilated People and something called Tang. 


Oh and Paul Johnson is now back on the list but he now no longer will be
known as just Paul Johnson, no no he now wants to be called The Legendary
Paul Johnson. I'll be on the look out for the following changes on the DEMF
website:

The Legendary A Number of Names
The Legendary Art Payne  Keith Martin
The Legendary George Clinton
The Legendary Juan Atkins
The Legendary Blake Baxter
The Legendary Alan Oldham
The Legendary Mad Professor
The Legendary Eddie Fowlkes
The Legendary Kenny Dope


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Re: [313] OT: I have one thing to say....

2002-05-05 Thread glyph1001
One more thing.  The character development of X-Men, I feel, was crucial 
to the story telling of the film because not everyone read comics and 
know what the heck these characters are all about aside from the fact 
that they're mutants.  I liked X-Men and I believe the formula (which is 
making the movie to be just like the comic book and not adding new and 
sometimes awful elements to the characters plus utilizing lesser known 
actors) used and the consequential success of that formula revived the 
interest in making superhero films. Its the way all the previous 
superhero flicks should've been done, except Superman, that's like the 
bible of all superhero flicks.  In fact, you can tell that for 
Spider-Man, they made the production team watch Superman movie on DVD 
and take notes (i.e. Peter Parker ripping apart his shirt, revealing the 
costume as he ran to change into Spidey).  


G.

sean deason wrote:


hell yeah!! I second the motion! Tobey (deer caught in the headlights)
Maguire nailed it! Not since Michael Keaton has an actor *really* gotten
into the psyche of a legendarysuperhero, but I was very impressed. I'm
ready to plop down another 6 bucks to give it another spin.
One thing that does bother me though. the new way he spins his webs is
kinda gross. and where does the material for the webs come from? wouldnt
he run out of it after a while? Maybe thats something they adapted from
the Venom costume, but still it grosses me out :^)
XMen was a big disappoinment (too much character development and by the
time the action started the movie was over) but I love this movie!

sean deason

Kirsten Dunst in the rain is well worth the price of admission :^)

sean

glyph1001 wrote:


Spider-Man.

Go see it.  It RAWKED!   :-)

g.

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Re: [313] OT: I have one thing to say....maybe two.

2002-05-04 Thread glyph1001
I would believe that alot of comic book/superhero fans are into Techno 
or may have played a role in the creation of Techno music because of the 
fantasy and romanticism of superheros and the pining for space travel 
and anything to do with Futurism.  So in that sense, I'm not surprised. 
Actually I think its cool. :-)  


g.


Mxyzptlk wrote:


At 09:21 AM 5/4/2002, you wrote:


hm detroit relevance...let me think...if only the director 
were from

Detroit or something.




(to make matters worse/risking the ire of the 'purists', I would ask:)

How many of you would 'fess up to being/have been comic book 
fanciers/collectors/followers? I ask because I have a feeling there's 
more overlap than some may anticipate; music geeks are geeks looking 
for an obsession (from personal experience anyway). I know when I was 
young I had hefty bags upon bags full of comix...early Marvel 
(Spiderman, Daredevil, FF, X-Men, Dr. Strange, Avengers, etc., etc) 
and D.C.  I used to spend my weekly allowance on them. My guess is 
that many of you know the origin of my email handle from other 
sources than Saturday morning cartoons of yore. It's pretty amazing 
how many former comic book junkies populate email music lists.

jeff


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Re: [313] OT: I have one thing to say....

2002-05-04 Thread glyph1001
Hmmm, I think the Ben Affleck casting is interesting, actually.  We'll 
just have to see if he's acrobatic enough.   :-)I also heard that 
the 'Alias' chick (can't think of her name at the moment) is Elektra and 
its proven she can fight on camera so that's a good choice.  But then 
again, casting a mega movie-star as a masked superhero is a no-no 
because what producer would pay mega-movie star money to only have the 
star's face covered half the time so I'm hoping that need doesn't get in 
the way of things.


I'm personally looking towards a Spider-man  X-men team up and perhaps 
a 'Justice League' live-action movie in the future.   :-)


In super-hero fever,
g.

Tim Maughan wrote:


on 4/5/02 6:42 pm, glyph1001 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Also, Sean, did you see the new Star Wars preview along with the Hulk
and directed by Ang Lee!?!?!  Whooohoo!! That's gonna be bad-ass!



it should be ggod, better than the Ban Affleck daredevil movie they're
shooting now...


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[313] OT: I have one thing to say....

2002-05-03 Thread glyph1001

Spider-Man.


Go see it.  It RAWKED!   :-)

g.


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Re: [313] DEMF mistake

2002-04-22 Thread glyph1001
Yeah, I guess so.  They're still posted on the official demf site as a 
live act and also on deepchord's own website: www.deepchord.com


g.

Grammenos, Peter wrote:


What about deep chord? Are they still doing a live set


-Original Message-
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Sent:   Sunday, April 21, 2002 12:39 PM
To: 313
Subject:Re: [313] DEMF mistake

Chad Novak
Gene Farris
Dave Angel -was contacted but had prior engagements
Kevin Saunderson
DJ Shadow
Sarena Tyler
X-Excutioners
Black Eyed Peas
Roni Size - was contacted but had prior engagements
Drexciya
Rob Hood - contact was attempted but no response

g.



Trevor Wilkes wrote:

I seem to recall Dave Angel as well...last i checked he
wasn't there
anymore.

Trevor Wilkes
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: [313] DEMF mistake


Hey-

Can someone repost the names that were announced on this
year's DEMF

website

but were later pulled? Repeat: NOT the entire roster, just
the names that
got PULLED from the list.

Here's what I have so far:

DJ Shadow
X-Ecutioners
Black Eyed Peas
Drexciya
Kevin Saunderson


anyone remember the others?

thanks,

Ken





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Re: [313] DEMF mistake

2002-04-21 Thread glyph1001

Chad Novak
Gene Farris
Dave Angel -was contacted but had prior engagements
Kevin Saunderson
DJ Shadow
Sarena Tyler
X-Excutioners
Black Eyed Peas
Roni Size - was contacted but had prior engagements
Drexciya
Rob Hood - contact was attempted but no response

g.



Trevor Wilkes wrote:


I seem to recall Dave Angel as well...last i checked he wasn't there
anymore.

Trevor Wilkes
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Subject: [313] DEMF mistake



Hey-

Can someone repost the names that were announced on this year's DEMF


website


but were later pulled? Repeat: NOT the entire roster, just the names that
got PULLED from the list.

Here's what I have so far:

DJ Shadow
X-Ecutioners
Black Eyed Peas
Drexciya
Kevin Saunderson


anyone remember the others?

thanks,

Ken


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[313] Real Detroit: DEMF Article

2002-04-12 Thread glyph1001

www.getrealdetroit.com

Plus,  early this morning, the commmittee members appeared on Fox 2 News 
Detroit on and off throughout their broadcast discussing the event and 
its intentions this year.


A few artists who were mentioned to be on the lineup is:

DJ Zap
Mad Professor
Green Velvet

...a sneak preview.  =)

g.


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Re: [313] a confirmation

2002-04-12 Thread glyph1001

Stew is definitely in.  He's quite excited to play from what I hear.   =)

g.

henrique casanova wrote:


sorry for this post but i can't read all e-mails today.
anyone knows if these artists will be at demf for sure?:

-drexciya
-robert hood
-stewart walker




henrique casanova
S.O.M.


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Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up

2002-04-12 Thread glyph1001

Dear Mr. Kooky Scientist.

With all fondness, due respect, and admiration of your music, etc.   I 
think its time that you not continue to bring up the same story of you 
getting stuck with the hotel bil for the 4th or 5th time.  The reason is 
that 1): you are an important techno artist with bad ass tracks that are 
hard to get and being nit-picky about this will just make you look bad. 
2) I'm sure you are now getting more gigs due to the exposure from the 
DEMF and the money you get from the gigs I'm sure has made up for the 
hotel money a twice fold and then some, so please find it in your heart 
let it go.  3) If you are not responsible for any hotel fees, never put 
yor credit card down, just explain why you're not responsible and 
explain to them who will be responsible and leave the hotel 50 bucks for 
incidentals.  And last but not least 4) DJ's and acts get dicked like 
that all the time...not just DEMF...its like...an occupational hazard so 
the only thing you can do is learn from the mistakes made and protect 
yourself next time.  I don't mean anything bad or disrespect by this but 
you're just too important of an artist, you should be above it all.


Thanks for reading.

Peace,

G.

Fred Giannelli wrote:


on 4/12/02 12:01 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 08:54 -0700 12-04-2002, Bill Van Loo wrote:


Available at:

http://www.electronicmusicfest.com


WOW!

It actually says Drexciya!!!

It's not live but AFAIK this will hopefully be the first live
appearance from our favorite aqua-funkers
Oh and George Clinton is nice too... and so is Deepchord live, Rob Hood



Well let's hope everybody gets paid what they've been promised and the hotel
rooms don't get charged back to all the artists like last year... ; O

Telepathic regards,
The Kooky Scientist






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Re: [313] FW: DEMF- Larry Heard, Moodymann, Hanna...

2002-04-06 Thread glyph1001

Yep, April 12th is when all hell breaks loose.  = D

g.

Matthew L. Thompson wrote:


Ok, I was thoroughly confused myself but I think I've made sense of that
now.  Still wondering how or why last year's lineup for that party was
posted to the list, that was confusing as hell.  Glad we got that straight.
:)

So is April 12th the date that the DEMF lineup is officially going to be
made public?  That's the sound of it from Gregg McPhedrain's post...

Matt
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Dan Sicko wrote:


the names below are from last year's party, right?


Yep. (names deleted to avoid further confusion)


Where was the first post in this thread? -- I don't remember seeing
it come through.  I'd like to see the party line-up again.


Here's what George Jones forwarded:

---begin
Forwarding this to the list for Chris Gray...


Hey guys, I just spoke with Brett and since there maybe isn't that much
definitive information about what to expect at this year's DEMF, I
thought I'd pass this along to all those interested. Thanks for allowing
my intrusion.


Brett Dancer and Track Mode Recordings announce the following event:
=

Sunday, May 26th
Banco Building on Woodward
10pm-7am
$25 (approximately, TBD)

Live acts:
--

Hanna (Warren Harris)

Moodymann (J.A.N.)

Larry Heard (Mr. Fingers) - Larry also on vocals, accompanied by Norma
Jean Bell on sax and Jerry the Cat on percussion


DJs:


Robert Barrett, Music Is... Records - UK
Brett Dancer, Track Mode Recordings
Malik
Theo Parrish, Sound Signature
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Re: [313] Blade II (OT)

2002-03-24 Thread glyph1001
Hehe, yeah Paul Oakie sure gets around.  I gotta hand it to the guy 
thoughhe's pushing himself and his brand of music into where it 
needs to be.  Can't even mess with it.


g.

Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:


On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, glyph1001 wrote:


This movie hauls amazing ass...my gawd!!!  Just wish there was some good
techno in it.

g.



the soundtrack is supposed to meld hiphop with electronica artists.
just imagine if ice cube was with carl craig instead of whomever...






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[313] Blade II (OT)

2002-03-23 Thread glyph1001
This movie hauls amazing ass...my gawd!!!  Just wish there was some good 
techno in it.


g.


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Re: [313] Blade II (OT)

2002-03-23 Thread glyph1001
Based on what I heard, I doubt it.  Its nothing that will jump out at 
you and could remember IMO, although its mostly collaborations between 
electronica and rap artists. Bottomline, you're defintely in for a treat 
film-wise.The Matrix had better come out rocking harder than this 
because the camera shots on this flick are insane...total superhero 
shit.  I mean views you never thought possible and the special 
effects/cgi is jaw-dropping.  One of my fave martial arts actors, Donnie 
Yen (Iron Monkey) turns out to be in it and choreographed the fighting 
scenes.  :::swoon:::  

One thing that gets me is how people bring their little kids to a film 
like this.  A little 7 or 8 yr old girl ended up sitting next to me and 
she was covering her face on some scenes because it was pretty gorey.


Anyway, I'm planning to see it again.   :-)   Resident Evil is next. 
And from what I've seen...Milla  is Orietta St. Cloud,  hands down, ok? 
Let there be no doubt!  :-)   I can't wait for Spiderman, Triple X with 
Vin Diesel and Sam J(ackson): its like extreme sports meets james bond, 
and Minority Report with Tom Cruise which looks interesting.


Have a nice movie weekend folks,
g.

Matthew L. Thompson wrote:


I'm planning to see it Sunday evening.  That's been one of my key thoughts
about this movie all along, as to whether another rave anthem would be
born from the sequel's movie soundtrack (as was the played-to-death
Confusion remix by New Order from Blade I).  Oh well... I'm going because
I plan to enjoy the film, regardless of the music, right? Well... maybe. ;)

Matt
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Subject: [313] Blade II (OT)



This movie hauls amazing ass...my gawd!!!  Just wish there was some good
techno in it.

g.


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[313] 313 related gear [Fwd: JP-8000 for sale]

2002-03-16 Thread glyph1001



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Subject: JP-8000 for sale
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:38:05 EST
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Roland JP-8000 for sale. The big blue Sean Deason Razorback machine. I used 
it on Progress (one track). I paid $1100 for it used, asking $400 plus 
shipping (USA only). Patch list/manual included.


Please e-mail me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: RE: [313] Space Dj´z

2002-03-14 Thread glyph1001
Actually that mix series was pretty much started by Alan.  He approached 
Prime Dist. to do a mix cd and came up with that title/concept which he 
thought at first was only for his mix cd only.  The name stuck for the 
Space DJz release due to a slight miscommunication and it was too late 
to change it.  Although, I must comment that the design work for Alan's 
import or UK version is a bit 'yucky' compared to the domestic.


have a nice day,

g.

Pryor, Ryan N wrote:


hehe...I wonder who named their release that first. T-1000 or Space Dj's..

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Hello,

I saw a copy of a mixalbum by the
SPACE DJ'Z called ´THE LAST DJ'Z ON EARTH´
in a shop today..the tracklisting looked
quite cool..anybody any info on this???

Thanks,

Martijn

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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-11 Thread glyph1001

I want to respond to the music has no color bit

If music has no color, I'd like to see 4 black dudes play the roles of 
the 4 Beatles in a movie.  Or a white man playing the role of Jimi 
Hendrix in a movie.


g.


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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread glyph1001
clap clap clap: there ya go!  i know we've been through this and 
the opinions of it is varied but that new de9 is slammin', even now.


g.

Berislav wrote:




trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white)
techno: carl cox? (black)
jungle: goldie (black)



come on, man ,techno carl cox
if somebody is mega super star in techno thats got to be Richie Hawtin, who
is that carl cox figure.
fat ass dj running intec nothing special




b.






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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread glyph1001
cox is definitely more known in a 'mainstream' type of way as opposed to 
richie.  I certainly didn't see richie in a commercial in europe where 
he's got an apron on and mixing batter in a bowl in a kitchen, promoting 
some mix cd or club night.  


g.

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hmmm. hawtin or cox. internationally, i really think cox might have a
slightly higher profile, although i could be wrong.



On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Berislav wrote:




trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white)
techno: carl cox? (black)
jungle: goldie (black)


come on, man ,techno carl cox
if somebody is mega super star in techno thats got to be Richie Hawtin, who
is that carl cox figure.
fat ass dj running intec nothing special




b.






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Re: [313] Portal

2002-03-04 Thread glyph1001
When I watched Pump Up The Volume, it did say that Paradise served 
non-alcholic drinks but once in a while they would spike the punch.


g.

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I don't know about the Paradise Garage, but Studio 54 most definately
served alcohol.

Vinyl (home of Body and Soul) in NYC doesn't sell alcohol. I guess that's
not really bad for a Sunday afternoon club, but I was there once on a
Saturday night (afterparty for the only ever Nuyorican Soul live concert- yes, 
i'm
bragging ;) ).

That was a bit weird not getting a drink during prime bar hours.


On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, robin pinning wrote:


well, i don't know what info has been posted alreadymy understanding
is that it is some or all former founders of the Music Institute who have
leased out the first floor of the 2030 building to provide quality music
on weekend nights from approximately 12-6am in an alcohol-free venue.
opening nite:  march 22nd.


wow, an alcohol free venue...that just wouldn't survive over here (which
is more the pity really)...interesting


and yes i am aware the paradise garage and studio 54 (and the warehouse?)
were alcohol free


robin...



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Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-04 Thread glyph1001
I feel to many Americans, movements would seem more exotic, 'cooler', 
and unique' if it came from the UK.  Its just the way it is, I guess.


g.

Dan Sicko wrote:

Speaking to the Why SD and not Juan? issue directly, I'd just like 
to offer up the strange infatuation the US media holds for UK pop 
culture exports (I know this term is a bit of the large blanket 
variety) ...


I think often times a movement seems that much more legitimate to 
the US (and I mean the lowest common denominator US) when it comes 
back to us through a UK prism.


Inferiority complex?  Just another obstacle to overcome?

-d

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Re: [313] Hype, Marketing, and BS

2002-03-03 Thread glyph1001
does anyone notice how before its more records sold per record and now 
its less records sold but with more releases?


hope that makes sense.

g.


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Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-02 Thread glyph1001
because you're not doing anything else but worry about someone else's 
bee's wax.  what are you doing for yourself?  if you're not part of the 
solution, you're part of the problem.


i mean no offense at all, but its the truth.

g.

neon tse tse wrote:


am 01.03.2002 19:10 Uhr schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


People, you are always going to be broke if you're worrying about someone
else's income.



always going to e broke ?

who are you talking to ?

what you mean by that ?

m
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Re: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-28 Thread glyph1001
I read this article in the Real Detroit last night over dinner.  A good 
article, I especially LOVE the last thing Lenny says on there.

He speaks the gospel alright.:-)

Peace,
G.

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here's an octave one interview i just did for real detroit.

www.getrealdetroit.com/articles/aricle.php?id=741




On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, s mcgill wrote:


Originally I thought it was called Untold as it was on Blackwater EP on 430
west.

It has since I think featured Anne Saunderson vocal and Kev remix.

But I prefer the later Kaotic Spatial Rhythms remix myself.


Go on, give our lil' brother a bash. No. go on. No. go on, everyone else
has. Oh alright then.

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Wasn't the Blackwater with vocals the original?  I have the release on 430
west by Octave One with the instrumental on one side and Ann Saunderson
singing vocals on the other side. IMO - those vocals are excellent.  If
you're talking about a vocal that just says, balckwater over the
background, that's very E-dancer sounding - it's actually the e-dancer


remix


also out on 430 west.  Those vocals are pretty hairy IMO.  There's also a
new Octave one remix of the tune that is supposed to be the strings


remix.


Haven't heard it, but Mike Taylor was supposed to play it on his show last
weekend - maybe he can shed some light.

Dennis

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From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Neil Wallace
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: [313] black water with vocals?

Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 9:25:37 AM, a knob was tweaked and out came:

NW i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty


duff


NW female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

Was it the Ann Saunderson vocal mix?  Just open your heart,
open your mind, let the love flow let the sun shine?

That's been out for a while now.


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Re: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org

2002-02-27 Thread glyph1001
Nah, there's nothing wrong with ya.  Sometimes, in order to 'break in' 
certain measures have to be taken.  Surely,there's plenty of ways to go 
about it and your explanation is one.   If you want to suffer through, 
you can.  Or if you want to play to it and change your style later on, 
that's a great way too.  This also occurs in the movie industry where an 
indie producer may work his way up to notoriety and financial award by 
producing a money-making film and then down the road he/she will have 
the clout and freedom and most importantly THE MOOLAH to do 
serious/experimental films.  This may not sit well with alot of people 
but its just how the world works from my observation.


Laters,
g

Ploegmakers, Joost wrote:


Hi,

I'm always a bit confused about how I feel on these practises. I've seen it
happen before: D.J. or producer or singer gets famous easily by being
friends with the right people at the right time, (sometimes good looks are
are great help in this) get noticed by the larger ignorant crowd and media
by playing commercial crap music and when at the righ momentum they get
educated, miraculously develop a sense of taste and decide to break with the
past and now all of a sudden expect the true people to take them
seriously.

That's the negative point of view. On the other side, the good taste was
probably always there, it just needed some time to surface. And at least the
person in question has seen the light (some people never do).

We've seen it happen with big names like:
Madonna
George Michael
Robbie Williams
And now with 100% Isis (and I bet there are more examples from the
underground)

My dilemma is: I really have respect for Madonna, George and Robbie. Is
there something wrong with me?

Joost


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From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 09:28
To: bart wolff; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org


Her latest mix-cd called ´reformations´or ´transformation´(i believe?)
is quite good, as mentioned already, deep/dark/funky techno and
no more clubby stuff, she broke with that kind of sound and scene...

What´s next..dj Joost van Bellen playing Awakenings???

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Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 9:57
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: Re: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org


Well, i am not a fan of 100%isis, but i must say, that a year or so, she has
stunned me a few times with a very good, pumping, minimal techno set

Yes i know, all the Dutch on the list find that hard to believe, and so do
i...but it's a fact




At 25-2-2002 + 16:00, you wrote:


Following on from that,  maybe some of the Dutch and Belgian contingent on
here may be able to help...

I heard a mix by a female Dutch DJ called 100% Esis (or something like
that)
on London's Kiss FM a couple of years back which mixed the likes of 16b,
Mills and others in a quick half hour mix. Anybody heard of her or seen
her
play?

Cheers


Toby





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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org



Hi,

We have added an interview with one of Hollands leading techno DJ's,


Lady


Aida to our website. She is an excellent DJ, she writes her column for


a
big


dutch music magazine and her clubnight (Fluid) in her hometown


Eindhoven
is


one of the longest running clubnights in Holland.

For those of you who don't have a clue who she is (proberly 95% of you


:))


we have added to DJ mixes from her to our website. One of them is


recorded


live at Fluid, the other one shows the state of the dutch techno scene,


so


one mix with only dutch artists.

read and listen here:


http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexr


eq


=viewarticleartid=10

or:
http://technotourist.org and click on 'Interviews' and select 'Lady


Aida'


Enjoy!


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Re: [313] Carl Craig on Equinox

2002-02-21 Thread glyph1001
That has to be the same 'Wrap me in his arms' as 'Rap Me In Its Arms', 
the title I saw on a playlist recently on an old copy of one WDET Fast 
Forward Newsletter playlist, dated 12/07/90.


--g.

Koen Mariën wrote:


'Wrap me in his arms' was released on Retroactive and did feature on the
Equinox compilation on Buzz. check marsels retroactive discography @
http://nomorewords.net/retroactive/ ! IMHO it's one of the best tracks C2
ever made, thx to the heavenly voice of Sarah Gregory. been looking for this
track for years, a friend of mine paid about 65 $ for his copy of CAD004.

happy huntin'!

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Onderwerp: [313] Carl Craig on Equinox


I remember a Carl Craig track called Wrap me in his arms but
cannot find it. I am sure it was on an album called Equinox on
Buzz. Does any know of this and could let me know.
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Re: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313

2002-02-20 Thread glyph1001

Ok, let me put a quash on all this talk about how World Party was a flop.

Have you considered the fact that maybe the music wasn't there yet? 
Meaning the event/concept was probably ahead of its time. How many 
people were into techno as much as today?  I seem to remember artists 
like Derrick and Inner City were on the bill right?  So if you are 
referring to musical credibility, you can't get any more credible than 
those guys. They were the big, superstar headliners, right ? And it 
still failed. The bottom line is, not too many people were even aware of 
Detroit techno, especially not early 90's Detroit. And certainly not 
enough to fill an entire arena. After all the Music Institute couldn't 
even last, and that club was the size of one closet in the Joe Louis 
Arena (not Cobo).  Besides, that was almost 10 years ago. You have to 
figure that the people into techno now were kids back then and knew 
nothing of this music.  

If anything, Carol's mistake was that she put TOO MUCH faith in the 
drawing power of this music at that time, to her financial regret.


--g.

Holly MacDonald-Korth wrote:


well, we all know what a great success World Party was!

what credibility!!

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Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313


I'll even say further that Pop Culture themselves has experience in 
organizing (or have been involved in) huge events and festivals in the 
past (i.e. as far as I know, the 'World Party' and the Jazz Festival) so 
that's the 'promoter' component there.  As if Carl had previous 
experience in putting together a huge festival on his own. To be quite 
frank, it seems to me alot of 'buddies' were picked to play the last two 
years.  


Flame, flame,

--G.

(Truth Be Told) wrote:


Why would it be necessary to have promoters? Don't they bring in their
favorites anyway or do they bring in big names for a big payday? If 
you look

at the first statement if the Free Press article: A seven-member board of
longtime Detroit techno musicians will choose the artist lineup... the
panel is there only to choose the talent they don't need to know how it
works (festival producer/promoter = Pop Culture Media). I would think that
traveling and developing relationships with other DJs/artists, they 
are more
then qualified to choose a lineup. The fact there are 7 shows there 
will be

checks and balances where someone couldn't just bring in their buddies
(perhaps as before). Plus, most of them have been around almost 20 
years and

know who was there from the start.
I'm hopeful too that they'll produce a good lineup and keep the spirit
alive.

Truth

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Re: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313

2002-02-20 Thread glyph1001


I think the last two DEMF's were successes on commercial *and* 
artistic levels. But that's just one 
aging-techno-gone-all-downtempo-and-broken-beat man's opinion.  :)


-d

Tee hee, its all good Dan.   :-)

I don't know...out of all the things she could've invested money in she 
chose to invest in a Detroit Techno music event in '93 or '94 with great 
talent rather than doing some other mainstream mish-mash, because where 
would that leave us? With NO techno music event to enjoy, period. Of 
course she didn't capitalize and it was her risk..another lesson 
learned.  Chalk one up for experience. Nonetheless, it was a gamble on 
techno. And she had the decency to choose someone who knew what's up. 
How about some props for that? She could've easily chosen some cheese 
label of the month AR jerk to pick the talent so our ears can bleed.


The one who shells out the cash get no props because its automatically 
'always about the money.'  Could it just be that she saw potential for 
this to be bigger in a positive way, even almost 10 years ago?   Yes, 
yes, yes!...we live in a shameless, capitalistic country/world...that's 
life.  And like most things in life, any investment made, there is a 
hope, and sometimes an expectation of a return.  But what makes a big 
difference is whether or not this person have the foresight to remain 
true to the art...without having to go broke in the process.


The original point is that there should be promoters in the committee, 
yes?  I'm saying Carol has had experience in organizing/promoting big 
events therefore she's the 'promoter' element.  Whether or not the gigs 
were good is a new ball game and gawd, one promoter is good 
enough...sheesh!   :-)


Have a good day all,

--g.

Dan Sicko wrote:

Ok, let me put a quash on all this talk about how World Party was a 
flop.



no ... I at least meant flop in every American, commercial sense of 
the word.


The music was definitely not there yet ... this was the city that 
couldn't keep the narrow confines of the Music Institute open. And a 
year or so later she books Joe Louis Arena ...  not smart.  It was a 
shallow attempt to capitalize on all the Europeans in for the World 
Cup games.  Too bad they were all staying a half hour away around 
Pontiac where the games were being held. Carol took a huge risk and it 
didn't pay off.


And the credibility ... that would all be down to that event's 
artistic consultant ... Gary Arnett.  Props.   I'll have to drag out 
the flyer to list the killer line-up.


I think the last two DEMF's were successes on commercial *and* 
artistic levels. But that's just one 
aging-techno-gone-all-downtempo-and-broken-beat man's opinion.  :)


-d

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Re: [313] Fwd: STOP PRESS NEWS FROM DETROIT

2002-02-19 Thread glyph1001

Uh...how quickly we take sides without hearing the truth from BOTH sides.

--g

MD wrote:


How quickly ppl forget..



The committee was formed by DEMF founder Carol


Marvin.



md


--- Lorie R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: STOP PRESS NEWS FROM DETROIT
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:59:23 EST


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE--ALAN OLDHAM  TO SERVE ON


ARTISTIC COMMITTEE FOR DEMF


2002

DETROIT-- Former WDET-FM program host,

international DJ, Generator/Pure 


Sonik
Records producer/owner and most recently, Pure

Comics 


writer/artist/publisher
Alan Oldham (also known by his stage name of DJ


T-1000) has officially been


invited by Pop Culture Media, the producer of DEMF,


to sit on the


seven-member Artistic Committee of the 2002 Detroit

Electronic Music 


Festival.




Each member of the Committee, which also includes

Godfather of Detroit 


Techno
Juan Atkins and Moods and Grooves owner/DJ Mike

Grant among tohers, will 


have
the opportunity to submit the names of people that

they think should 


perform
at this year's DEMF, discuss reasons why, and

eventually vote 


democratically
on the results.

What a difference a year makes ! says a


visibly-excited Oldham. Needless


to say, I'm honored to have been sought out and

asked to participate. I 


look
forward to working together with all of my fellow


Committee members to help


map out the creative direction of this year's


DEMF.


What DJs and/or live acts are Oldham planning to


propose to the committee ?


Well, it's a little too soon to divulge that


specific info, but I will say


that my emphasis will be on a few Detroit people


like myself who were


overlooked in years past. Also, my personal


criteria and logic is that you


must have records out, or if you're a non-Detroit


artist, you must have


recorded for or have some connection to a Detroit


label. I'd consider


lesser-known talents also. Of course, that's just


me. There are six other


very esteemed opinions to take into account.

And will DJ T-1000 finally get to rock the DEMF as


a performer ?


I'm proud to say that I'll be finally taking the


stage as a DJ at the DEMF


this year. It's been a long time coming.I've played

big European parties 


like
Mayday, Astropolis,Tribal Gathering and Love


Parade, but this is home. I


can't wait to bang it.

Also due to this news, Oldham's new artist CD on


Pure Sonik as DJ T-1000,


Neutra, originally scheduled for late March, will


be delayed to debut


exclusively at the DEMF in May. The Neutra EP,


the three-track vinyl


preview of the album, is out on schedule in late


February.


All other details about this year's DEMF will be


announced shortly by Pop


Culture Media. On the web at:


electronicmusicfest.com.


For information about Alan Oldham, contact Pure

Sonik Records at 


313-417-4471
or on the web at: www.puresonikrecords.net

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Re: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313

2002-02-19 Thread glyph1001
I'll even say further that Pop Culture themselves has experience in 
organizing (or have been involved in) huge events and festivals in the 
past (i.e. as far as I know, the 'World Party' and the Jazz Festival) so 
that's the 'promoter' component there.  As if Carl had previous 
experience in putting together a huge festival on his own. To be quite 
frank, it seems to me alot of 'buddies' were picked to play the last two 
years.  


Flame, flame,

--G.

(Truth Be Told) wrote:


Why would it be necessary to have promoters? Don't they bring in their
favorites anyway or do they bring in big names for a big payday? If 
you look

at the first statement if the Free Press article: A seven-member board of
longtime Detroit techno musicians will choose the artist lineup... the
panel is there only to choose the talent they don't need to know how it
works (festival producer/promoter = Pop Culture Media). I would think that
traveling and developing relationships with other DJs/artists, they 
are more
then qualified to choose a lineup. The fact there are 7 shows there 
will be

checks and balances where someone couldn't just bring in their buddies
(perhaps as before). Plus, most of them have been around almost 20 
years and

know who was there from the start.
I'm hopeful too that they'll produce a good lineup and keep the spirit
alive.

Truth

I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it for myself...






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Re: [313] Re: DEMF 2002: The Sexy Adventures of Carol Marvin313

2002-02-19 Thread glyph1001
That doesn't matter.  Experience only adds to the knowledge of doing 
better next time.


--G.

Dan Sicko wrote:

I'll even say further that Pop Culture themselves has experience in 
organizing (or have been involved in) huge events and festivals in 
the past (i.e. as far as I know, the 'World Party'



Let's not forget what a huge flop the World Party was ...

I haven't been to a jazz festival since Branford Marsalis was 
supporting his Crazy People Music album, so I don't know how well 
that's been handled ...


-d





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Re: [313] it makes me wonder why i care

2002-02-17 Thread glyph1001
Uh...of course they take it seriously.  For many of these dj's, its a 
career.


g.

Bill VanLoo wrote:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/in_depth/sci_tech/2002/boston_2002/newsid_1
822000/1822822.stm

Hoping this inspires some heady discussion,



To the contrary, I think this quote from the article says it all:

It also seems to be about having a bit of a laugh. Chris Csikszentmihalyi,
Assistant Professor of Media Arts and Sciences at the Media Lab, cannot
resist poking a little fun at human DJs who take the project far too
seriously and feel their midnight hour is about to be taken away. 

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Re: [313] it makes me wonder why i care

2002-02-17 Thread glyph1001
I am aware of that these professors are just having fun.  I'm just 
pointing out as to why certain dj's would take their craft more

serious than others...that's all.  ;-)

peace,
g.

Bill VanLoo wrote:


Uh...of course they take it seriously.  For many of these dj's, its a
career.



Sure, of course it is. Yet I still have a sneaking suspicion that this fall
firmly into the category of we did it because it was a fun thing to build,
not we did it to replace Richie Hawtin or Carl Cox.


As I was pointing out earlier, the article says as much.

This really isn't especially (313) relevant, though. Also, don't take my
examples too seriously - I don't necessarily consider either Hawtin or Cox
to be the pinnacle of the DJ craft.





Cheers,

Bill





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2002-02-10 Thread glyph1001



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Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 23:14:26 -0600
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Ok then - let's discuss some American artists (black artists that is) that
don't get their dues, within the techno/house/drumbass/etc. community that
is, because we all know that outside of it they are virtually unknown. So
I'll throw out a couple of names just to get the ball rolling (hopefully).
Pick which ever you want and tell us what and why you think they are -- oh
man I feel like I should be wearing a tweed coat with elbow patches.

Eddie Flashin' Fowlkes (or is it Old Skool now) - he was there along
with the other magnificent three but never got the recognition.
Alan Oldham - not only is he a great music producer but without him
DJAX-UP-BEATS would not be the same. Has never made enough comic books.

and here's some that aren't in the dance music genres but should be
celebrated and discovered

James Blood Ulmer - guitarist
Steve Coleman and the M-Base Collective
Andrew Cyrille - drummer

Just thought we could talk about the artists instead of bitching about
whether we should be talking about the artists.


Oh I'll also add Mary Wilson of the original Supremes - listen to her with
Cannonball Adderly for proof of her superior voice (compared to scary Diana
Ross)

MEK
  
  
  






  
 glyph1001
  cc: 
  Subject:  Re: [313] Black techno artists
 02/09/02 12:30 PM
 Please respond to
 glyph1001
  
  





Right on!!  Can't say it better myself.  =)

Have a nice day!

g.

If you ain't feelin' it, this ain't for you!  --Steve Harvey  (Kings
of Comedy)

Nicole Slavin wrote:


at the risk of being slated, how can so many people remove the context of
this music. it comes from a society and a place that has been a long time
marginalised. and, you will find the same problems in any european country
you decide to venture into.
you cannot divorce the artists' experience from their music and to deny

that

race is an issue for this music is well, frankly, weird.
why the dismissiveness towards this subject? would you look at a piece of
art without wondering about its social and historical context, would you
read a book and take it only at face value?
i know many people on the list feel this subject has been talked to death,
but it hasn't. it is still relevant and unresolved. how can you say you

have

no need to understand problems of the US, they are our problems too and

the

cultural and policitical and economic hegemonies of the US run the entire
world. do you want us to be programmed and passive forever?
there, i've had my say, criticise if you will.
N
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From: Berislav Oremus 
To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org

Date: 09 February 2002 07:07
Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists



With no disrespect intended (I really love your music and your


contributions


to the list), I think a lot of Europeans have trouble relating to racial
problems in the US


this is so offtopic again, but im asking my self how we europeans cant
understand a racial problem in us, and again everything we do (in smaller
countreys) is so not democratic and we always live on some teritory of
economic sanctions, but we have to understand a rical problem in US. im
confused

i have a very big respect for black artist, and realy i dont have any
problems with black or white.
but i dont have any need to understand problems in US, at the same time


that


somebody from US have no need to understand problems that we have, or we
had

and lets take that off this list... music learnd

Re: [313] Black techno artists

2002-02-09 Thread glyph1001

Right on!!  Can't say it better myself.  =)

Have a nice day!

g.

If you ain't feelin' it, this ain't for you!  --Steve Harvey  (Kings 
of Comedy)


Nicole Slavin wrote:


at the risk of being slated, how can so many people remove the context of
this music. it comes from a society and a place that has been a long time
marginalised. and, you will find the same problems in any european country
you decide to venture into.
you cannot divorce the artists' experience from their music and to deny that
race is an issue for this music is well, frankly, weird.
why the dismissiveness towards this subject? would you look at a piece of
art without wondering about its social and historical context, would you
read a book and take it only at face value?
i know many people on the list feel this subject has been talked to death,
but it hasn't. it is still relevant and unresolved. how can you say you have
no need to understand problems of the US, they are our problems too and the
cultural and policitical and economic hegemonies of the US run the entire
world. do you want us to be programmed and passive forever?
there, i've had my say, criticise if you will.
N
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From: Berislav Oremus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org
Date: 09 February 2002 07:07
Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists



With no disrespect intended (I really love your music and your


contributions


to the list), I think a lot of Europeans have trouble relating to racial
problems in the US


this is so offtopic again, but im asking my self how we europeans cant
understand a racial problem in us, and again everything we do (in smaller
countreys) is so not democratic and we always live on some teritory of
economic sanctions, but we have to understand a rical problem in US. im
confused

i have a very big respect for black artist, and realy i dont have any
problems with black or white.
but i dont have any need to understand problems in US, at the same time


that


somebody from US have no need to understand problems that we have, or we
had

and lets take that off this list... music learnd me to be tolerant


b.


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Re: [313] RE: 313 Digest 3 Feb 2002 14:27:23 -0000 Issue 917

2002-02-04 Thread glyph1001

Mr. Atkins,

As always, thanks for speaking out and clearing up all misconceptions.

Peace,
G.

JuanAtkins wrote:


Once again, I see I have to get on this M.F. to set somebody strait. The
article that this Luna person is referring to, was a Detroit panel
discussion with a lot of other Detroit artist (other than Derrick May) as
well. The quote that this Luna person is referring to, about Richie
Hawtin, was actually from Eddie Fowlkes and not myself because I make it a
point not say anything personal about other Detroit artist when I do
interviews. If I've said it once, I'll say it a hundred times, please have
your facts tight when you post something about Juan Atkins on this M.F.  OK
Looney, Oops I mean Luna

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[313]Pump Up Thee Volume

2002-02-02 Thread glyph1001

Ok, my turn to rave about this show...

Finally saw part one last night after  2 1/2 hours of downloading and I 
must say it worth the wait.  Gosh, I was a little kid in those days and 
I had no idea there were such clubs like Muzic Box or the Warehouse 
(until way later) but I too felt the same excitement from this music and 
all I did was buy it (whenever I can scrounge up $5.00.  Domestics were 
$4.32, tax incl. by then) and listen to it on the radio.  The Imports 
Etc. we saw in the program is the second location on Plymouth Ct.  The 
first one was small, had a tiny front window w/bars, and small steps 
lead to the door with a homemade Import Etc sign in front of the door 
.  A third location was later opened in the Bucktown Milwaukee Ave 
neighborhood by the same owner when rave music was the new thing but it 
closed a few years later.Another record store they failed to mention 
was Loop Records on State Street.  I went to that one the most with my 
$4.32.  A few steps down was State Street Records where Liz Torres and 
Master CJ released In The City and Face It  Those were some bad-ass 
records too.  If you can find those on vinyl, I suggest you snag em'.
But, in the late 80's it was all closed down and in the 90's most of it 
was demolished and turned into a small park.  Only the jewish college 
and Walgreens drug store survives today.  Loop Records later on reopened 
on Michigan Ave, not far from the old location but it didn't last too long.


During the summers, I'd open the living room windows and blast house 
music out the window.  The neighborhood kids would end up hangin out 
under our window and I'd play records like Summertime Summertime by 
Nocera on Sleeping Bag Records, Puerto Rican Lover and Baila by 
Ralphi The Razz Rasario.  Time to Jack by Chip E. (one of my big 
favs).  Jack The House by Femme Fion on DJ International, We Rockin' 
Down The House by Adonis, all the fingers Inc. stuff...


Anyway, those where the days.  If anyone hasn't seen the program, please do.

Thanks for reading,

G.


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Re: [313] U R souldiers

2002-01-31 Thread glyph1001

Ok let me uh..try and use my deciphering skills here.  Heheh.

What the guy means here Micheal is that why would you respond
with such fervor (wild) when you can delete (click it away=delete) the
post so that you wouldn't have to read it.


Glyph

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hm and to big Michael



If this is meant to be me then I'd appreciate you not using my personal
name in such a condescending manner - if it's a fight with words you
want...


- the subject 'boring is interesting -



That was not my subject line - I was replying to someone else's who added
the word boring


how can u go so wild, when u can click it away ?



What exactly does this mean? Click WHAT away? What am I going wild over?
You are being VERY vague and I do understand you have a language barrier to
overcome but I'm willing to work with that and understand what you mean.


you wouldn´t even need to read ?



Again, read WHAT?!


- I was just answering your answer anyway -




- but till I get kicked off the list today :D




- gonna make some more noise -



Make all the noise you want but until you actually DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE
THE WORLD IN A TANGIBLE FORM (like volunteer in your community, etc.) -
noise is all you will be making.

Any more personal communications between myself and you I'd like to keep
off the 313 list because so far it has had little to do with music...

peace
MEK


  
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need 2 add this -

I never wanted 2 speak with the words of others and instrumentalize them 4
my own sight

if this happens or happened I am sorry and tell me

but I do see that the way it´s treated here is also instrmentalizing
sometimes,

by not talking about the things that are there -

- it´s a thin line

- this is xactly why I want to get the messages straight,

that people talk about what the ideas of what the artists want to
communicate

and if they interact to it - yep dancing, singing swinging and feeling and
moving

one thing that I do know 4 sure is -  it´s not only music


hm and to big Michael - the subject 'boring is interesting -

how can u go so wild, when u can click it away ?

you wouldn´t even need to read ? - I was just answering your answer anyway
-

- but till I get kicked off the list today :D

- gonna make some more noise -


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peoplez
plantz
peaze
pluz
m

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Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!)

2002-01-31 Thread glyph1001
Now c'mon guys.  Be nice, will ya?  The man's trying to understand and 
explore the messages behind
Detroit Techno.  Its not all just about Artists and Titles.  Like Mike 
says, alot of this music are the dreams
of artists who live in Detroit.  Why do they have these dreams?  Is it 
because these dreams are based
on the truths that many are not willing to admit or want to sweep under 
the rug?  

I'm not saying we have to talk about them everyday but when it comes up, 
please show some respect
to those who are looking for deeper answers.  If you have nothing to 
enlighten us all with, then delete the

post and move on.

Peace,

Glyph

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah, enough with the armchair philosophy and politics - if you really want
to do something constructive - the 313 list (add the entire internet to
that) is not the place to get it done - your community/neighborhood is. Get
away from the computer and be active - then maybe you can come back and
tell us what you did to make it a better place but sitting around talking
metaphysics isn't going to do it. Vote Nader. Thank you.

MEK



  
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


the culture is a construction based on the things we got planted inside


:D


the idea of a nation is the most negative methaphysical construction I


can


think off -



How about taking this conversation to

alt.culture.*
or
alt.metaphysics.*

or if newsgroups aren't your thing to some web-forum. Perhaps I'm the only
one but this thread (among few other self-evident recent ones) has
grown very boring and I'm tired of hitting delete. I just lve acting
as net police...



J

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Re: [313] about the members

2002-01-31 Thread glyph1001

This is like filling out a AOL profile.  =)

Name: Marina
Sex: Female
Age: 28/ Taurus  =)
Born: Hong Kong, Kowloon
Raised: NYC/Chicago
Living currently: Doing a stint in Detroit.
On list since: 1997.
Record/CD Collection? I share a big rec. collection with my brother 
dating back to the 80's.  Small CD collection.  =)
Occupation: I help run a (soon to be 2) labels in Detroit.  I also do 
graphics and web design for the labels.  
Hobbies: All of the above and want to get into doing documentaries and 
films, script writing...the whole nine yards.

Fave Quote:  Don't ask because you probably won't like what I have to say.










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Re: [313] about the members

2002-01-31 Thread glyph1001
OH OH OH,  One more goal I'd like to achieve, along with my partner in 
life is to apply for a grant that can enable us to get iMacs and fruity 
loops, cubase, reason, rebirth etc into a Detroit school and teach inner 
city kids how to make music.  I think the future of Techno lies there.   =)



glyph1001 wrote:


This is like filling out a AOL profile.  =)

Name: Marina
Sex: Female
Age: 28/ Taurus  =)
Born: Hong Kong, Kowloon
Raised: NYC/Chicago
Living currently: Doing a stint in Detroit.
On list since: 1997.
Record/CD Collection? I share a big rec. collection with my brother 
dating back to the 80's.  Small CD collection.  =)
Occupation: I help run a (soon to be 2) labels in Detroit.  I also do 
graphics and web design for the labels.  Hobbies: All of the above and 
want to get into doing documentaries and films, script writing...the 
whole nine yards.

Fave Quote:  Don't ask because you probably won't like what I have to say.










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Re: [313] about the members huh

2002-01-31 Thread glyph1001

yep,  if the elders are down with posting statsi'm down.:-)



Dan Sicko wrote:


At 4:13 PM -0500 1/31/02, J. T. wrote:

uhh...is this 313 lovelines...im 25, all man, on 313 longer than you, 
got more records than you..

i love you guys and im not complaining but this is kinda ridiculous.
how many people are on this list...are only the extra-important 
people supposed to post their stats...i dont get it



uh, no ... everyone who wants to can post their stats  ... why must 
we take everything so seriously?


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Re: [313] r s song in vanilla sky

2002-01-29 Thread glyph1001
David Morley...hadn't heard that name in a long time.  I'm thinking of 
this record I have by him on R  S.  Clear vinyl.

My collection is back in Chi-town so does anyone remember?

Glyph

Dan Sicko wrote:


*Too Good To Be Strange
by Andrea Parker and David Morley
Performed by Andrea Parker / Two Sandwiches Short of a Lunchbox
Courtesy of Strictly Confidential / R  S Records

god bless IMDB

At 3:41 PM -0500 1/28/2002, Jim Grindle wrote:


 I finally saw vanilla sky this weekend
There is a song playing when Tom is drunk in the club
and the lasers are over his head...Not the leftfield cut
I watched the credits but missed the song title but saw an r  s release
that I have to assume was the song in question.
Anyone help me out?




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Re: [313] jeff mills stars again

2002-01-27 Thread glyph1001
This is quite an interesting subject, a subject he spoke about  quite 
vehemently at Musikundmaschine last year during a breakfast/brunch 
session, courtesy of Axis. Sitting across from me and plus other 
journalists, the distinguished man went on in a rant about how tired he 
is of it all.  Tired of the press, tired of conforming to what is 
expected of him. Seems to me, he just wants to move on with his music/dj 
style. Like totally move on. I thought  he must've gone off his rocker 
but then as he explained himself, I gradually understood.  

Frankly, I believe its up to his audience to appreciate the switcher-roo 
he is contemplating and perhaps progress along with him.  Those I think 
are the true believers of this talent.  Its unfair to carelessly lump 
Jeff in the 'overrated, under skilled + massively over paid superstar dj 
category, if not tech. Looking at his career, he has worked his butt 
off (ever noticed how skinny the man is?) to arrive at his current 
prestige.  His schedule is non-f***ing stop.  In observing him at Musik, 
I've come to the conclusion that this man is just amazing. A bloody 
genius who has a genuine passion for the music and its progression.  

So basically my friend, with all due respect...I don't know what to tell 
ya.  Heheh, it is what it is, eh?.  We can only progress with him in the 
belief that he can lead this music into a new direction or get out there 
and make it ourselves.  Me, I'm sticking around.


My 2 ¢,

--Glyph

innercity records wrote:

we just heard that jeff's quitting (quit?) techno and 
in future will only play house clubs with dates
this year at fabric and the god awful tribal sessions 
in manchester.


he's totally blown out the uk's most important clubs
orbit, lost, slam and atomic jam after constant assurances
that he'd be touring uk this year.

if he feels the need to take his sound to another new
audience then fair play but to turn his back on what
he's best known for really beggars belief.

i for one won't be putting on me best shiny shoes and
sparkly shirt and paying £20 to see him while in the
company of a bunch of clueless fashion victims who
are probably in the club only to prance around to
some overrated, under skilled + massively overpaid 
superstar tech dj.


after 3 years of not playing the uk due to his bollocks
immigraion excuse this is how he repays his long time
fans and followers who've spent countless money on
his records and hours queing in the rain to go hear
him spin.

i don't think i'd actually be as angry over any other dj
doing this which just shows the kind of admiration this
guy has over here and i'm sure it'll be the same for
many others.

simple reply of course is for all us to turn our back
to him and stop buying his music and going to his
club dates. it works both ways.

pure arrogance (again)


innercity.









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Re: [313] jeff mills stars again

2002-01-27 Thread glyph1001
OH, I'm not feeling this one.  What do you or people you've spoken to 
know about what made Jeff who he is? This all keepin' it real stuff is 
extremely annoying. Its another way of keeping a man back from his 
potential and achievements.  In other words, Playa-hatin'!  Look, before 
living in Detroit, (I used to commute back and forth from Chicago) I 
used to have a romanticized view of the D because of the music.  Since 
living here for the time being, I've had in many conversations been told 
about life in detroit from people who've been here all their lives who 
they themselves are busy looking for opportunities to leave.  Not only 
was I schooled on the mentality of the city, but also politics in the 
music and how people treat each other on a basic level.   My conclusion? 
It is not what its cracked up to be.  

Lots, including me are drawn to Detroit because of the music and insist 
that Detroit is this and that...Go Detroit!  Its cool, but we must 
remind ourselves that we're all looking at it from environments more 
pleasant and we need to understand that its ok if some folks can 
careless.  My perception is quite balanced now.   Don't get me wrong, I 
really wish things were better here but I'm not as naive about it as before.


In regards to Jeff, I don't and won't say he's dissing Detroit or blame 
Mills for not being a detroit artist because to me, he has risen above 
the crap and became a global figure when his opportunity came. Bigger 
than life itself to some.  Mills transcends Detroit.  If you're in a bad 
environment, you get the hell out.  You don't stay if you can help it 
and I don't care who you are (exception being that it depends on a 
person's mentality).  It applies especially if it deals with keeping 
your sanity and spirts up so you can WRITE music and live life to its 
fullest. Yeah, sometimes it takes a bad situation to force a person to 
do something remarkable but the sad, awful truth is that it HAS to take 
that sort of environment.   I always wanted to know why not California, 
as opposed to Detroit...now I know. 


Have a nice evening...flame away.  =)

glyph




I know some people in detroit that can't forgive Mills for, as they see it,
dissing detroit.

never forget what made you what you are.

-Joe














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Re: [313] jeff mills stars again

2002-01-27 Thread glyph1001





innercity records wrote:


you misunderstood me.
i dont  class him with the overpaid etc. as i personally
feel he's been in a league of his own for years with
nobody even now able to touch him on a good night.



Hmm, ok.



and it would be nice for him to give us the chance
to progress with him at the clubs we all love and
have seen him rock many times. not in some super
money club full of people who really won't understand
what he's actually doing.



Now you wouldn't know that.  The one thing I've learned about the
masses or mainstream, is that you have to beat em over the head
with it.  You can't expect people to use their own minds to seek out
something anymore.  That's not how the masses think.  Its maybe how
we think but certainly not the general population.

I feel he's trying to break into those clubs and play music
for people who doesn't have any idea what techno is.  He is
opening himself up to a new market, I guess.  I see it as a
challenge for him to do so.



if he wasn't so far up his own arse as to believe his
music isn't techno anymore then maybe we'd all get
this chance.

wasn't he the one who said
techno is whatever you want it to be..

so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs?



To you, they're house clubsto him they're places to wreak havoc in. =)
I think we just need to remain calm and see what happens.

Peace,

Glyph




paul







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off his rocker


but then as he explained himself, I gradually understood.

Frankly, I believe its up to his audience to appreciate the switcher-roo
he is contemplating and perhaps progress along with him.  Those I think
are the true believers of this talent.  Its unfair to carelessly lump
Jeff in the 'overrated, under skilled + massively over paid superstar dj
category, if not tech. Looking at his career, he has worked his butt
off (ever noticed how skinny the man is?) to arrive at his current
prestige.  His schedule is non-f***ing stop.  In observing him at Musik,
I've come to the conclusion that this man is just amazing. A bloody
genius who has a genuine passion for the music and its progression.

So basically my friend, with all due respect...I don't know what to tell
ya.  Heheh, it is what it is, eh?.  We can only progress with him in the
belief that he can lead this music into a new direction or get out there
and make it ourselves.  Me, I'm sticking around.

My 2 ¢,

--Glyph

innercity records wrote:


we just heard that jeff's quitting (quit?) techno and
in future will only play house clubs with dates
this year at fabric and the god awful tribal sessions
in manchester.

he's totally blown out the uk's most important clubs
orbit, lost, slam and atomic jam after constant assurances
that he'd be touring uk this year.

if he feels the need to take his sound to another new
audience then fair play but to turn his back on what
he's best known for really beggars belief.

i for one won't be putting on me best shiny shoes and
sparkly shirt and paying £20 to see him while in the
company of a bunch of clueless fashion victims who
are probably in the club only to prance around to
some overrated, under skilled + massively overpaid
superstar tech dj.

after 3 years of not playing the uk due to his bollocks
immigraion excuse this is how he repays his long time
fans and followers who've spent countless money on
his records and hours queing in the rain to go hear
him spin.

i don't think i'd actually be as angry over any other dj
doing this which just shows the kind of admiration this
guy has over here and i'm sure it'll be the same for
many others.

simple reply of course is for all us to turn our back
to him and stop buying his music and going to his
club dates. it works both ways.

pure arrogance (again)


innercity.









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Re: [313] jeff mills stars again

2002-01-27 Thread glyph1001



glyph1001 wrote:






innercity records wrote:


you misunderstood me.
i dont  class him with the overpaid etc. as i personally
feel he's been in a league of his own for years with
nobody even now able to touch him on a good night.



Hmm, ok.



and it would be nice for him to give us the chance
to progress with him at the clubs we all love and
have seen him rock many times. not in some super
money club full of people who really won't understand
what he's actually doing.



Now you wouldn't know that.  The one thing I've learned about the
masses or mainstream, is that you have to beat em over the head
with it.  You can't expect people to use their own minds to seek out
something anymore.  That's not how the masses think.  Its maybe how
we think but certainly not the general population.

I feel he's trying to break into those clubs and play music
for people who doesn't have any idea what techno is.  He is
opening himself up to a new market, I guess.  I see it as a
challenge for him to do so.



if he wasn't so far up his own arse as to believe his
music isn't techno anymore then maybe we'd all get
this chance.

wasn't he the one who said
techno is whatever you want it to be..





I've neglected to respond to the above:

What part of his music do you consider not techno anymore?  Is it what 
you think he will play at these house clubs or do you think his current 
material isn't techno?


I really believe his quote is a genuine one and he's not full of shite. 
LOL   I think we're the ones who have the problem because we have put 
techno in a box or given techno a stereotype whereas Mills hasn't, 
hence the quote.  Techno IS whatever we want it to be.  Its Beligum 
Rave, Gabber, its breaks, its tech-step, its tech-house, its TRANCE =), 
its IDM, its glitch, its click-house, ambient...on and on.


Techno is Techno.  Even Detroit Techno is its own brand of techno.

Ok, gotta go...the  neighbors got the RB blastin' now and I have try 
and to get back to work.  =)


Peace,

glyph




so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs?



To you, they're house clubsto him they're places to wreak havoc in. =)
I think we just need to remain calm and see what happens.

Peace,

Glyph




paul







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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [313] jeff mills stars again


off his rocker


but then as he explained himself, I gradually understood.

Frankly, I believe its up to his audience to appreciate the switcher-roo
he is contemplating and perhaps progress along with him.  Those I think
are the true believers of this talent.  Its unfair to carelessly lump
Jeff in the 'overrated, under skilled + massively over paid superstar dj
category, if not tech. Looking at his career, he has worked his butt
off (ever noticed how skinny the man is?) to arrive at his current
prestige.  His schedule is non-f***ing stop.  In observing him at Musik,
I've come to the conclusion that this man is just amazing. A bloody
genius who has a genuine passion for the music and its progression.

So basically my friend, with all due respect...I don't know what to tell
ya.  Heheh, it is what it is, eh?.  We can only progress with him in the
belief that he can lead this music into a new direction or get out there
and make it ourselves.  Me, I'm sticking around.

My 2 ¢,

--Glyph

innercity records wrote:


we just heard that jeff's quitting (quit?) techno and
in future will only play house clubs with dates
this year at fabric and the god awful tribal sessions
in manchester.

he's totally blown out the uk's most important clubs
orbit, lost, slam and atomic jam after constant assurances
that he'd be touring uk this year.

if he feels the need to take his sound to another new
audience then fair play but to turn his back on what
he's best known for really beggars belief.

i for one won't be putting on me best shiny shoes and
sparkly shirt and paying £20 to see him while in the
company of a bunch of clueless fashion victims who
are probably in the club only to prance around to
some overrated, under skilled + massively overpaid
superstar tech dj.

after 3 years of not playing the uk due to his bollocks
immigraion excuse this is how he repays his long time
fans and followers who've spent countless money on
his records and hours queing in the rain to go hear
him spin.

i don't think i'd actually be as angry over any other dj
doing this which just shows the kind of admiration this
guy has over here and i'm sure it'll be the same for
many others.

simple reply of course is for all us to turn our back
to him and stop buying his music and going to his
club dates. it works both ways.

pure arrogance (again)


innercity.









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Re: [313] KMS tonight

2002-01-26 Thread glyph1001
Oh and while you're there, please ask Kevin about the Reese Bassline 
if possible, perhaps that may resolve things.  =)


--Glyph

David Pinter wrote:


Anyone planning on catching this and looking to do a list meetup at Centro Fly?

btw, anyone else catch Paris spinning on GT yesterday? If it's archived it's 
worth a listen for track content. Lots of gems in that set.


-dave





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Re: [313] Will any of you...

2002-01-25 Thread glyph1001

I'll be going...it'll be VERY interesting.  =)

Glyph

Pryor, Ryan N wrote:


313'ers be attending this?

Critical Studies:Humanities Lecture Series Detroit Sound
Lecturing from 1:00 - 4:30 pm
Adam Lee Miller-Adult.
Carl Craig-Planet E
Rita Sayegh
Dan Sicko

Location-DeSalle Auditorium, Cranbrook Art Museum, Bloomfield Hills,
Michigan
Open to the public on a first-come, first-served basis with museum admission

For more information and directions: 
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Re: [313] Will any of you...

2002-01-25 Thread glyph1001
Uh...I take that lie back: my lift to the event backed out on me last 
min, so somebody else will need to do the reporting.


=(

Grand opening, Grand closing,

Glyph.



glyph1001 wrote:


I'll be going...it'll be VERY interesting.  =)

Glyph

Pryor, Ryan N wrote:


313'ers be attending this?

Critical Studies:Humanities Lecture Series Detroit Sound
Lecturing from 1:00 - 4:30 pm
Adam Lee Miller-Adult.
Carl Craig-Planet E
Rita Sayegh
Dan Sicko

Location-DeSalle Auditorium, Cranbrook Art Museum, Bloomfield Hills,
Michigan
Open to the public on a first-come, first-served basis with museum 
admission


For more information and directions: 
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-24 Thread Glyph1001
don't mean to be nit pick but the laugh was done by Allison Moyet  of 
Yazoo.  =)  Whatever happened to her?


glyph

Hans Veneman wrote:


On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:34:22PM +0100, Jongsma, K.J. wrote:

Is it definitely a sample of Nude Photo? I didn't pick that 
up! I thought it

sounded similar. Really dope track.


Just the little laugh, which is sampled, nude photo had the same sample, who
did the original laugh? For some reason the Human Leagua keeps poppin up.



Wasn't it Situation by Yazoo (Yaz in the US).

Hans





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Re: [313] a story?

2001-11-24 Thread Glyph1001
Yeah its sad.  I think the problem is that there is barely any money to 
market techno and it doesn't help if alot of artists like to remain 
anonymous.  The mainstream like a photo on the cover of CD or record, 
etc.   There's has to be something physical that they can grab on to. 
If you look at every big name cheesehead electronica artist, there is 
big money which includes publicity working behind the scenes pushin' 
them.  Look at the labels their on.  This is of course a general view 
but if one look at the details and make the right choices, no artistic 
integrity will be compromised.  If there's a will, there's a way.


We just have to make the box we sell techno in...prettier.


Peace,

Glyph

Javier Drada wrote:

Don't feel bad it's not any better in the States. Yeah you have some 
things here and there but if you look at the big picture, Underground 
is like a needle in a haystack. The majority of the club scene is all 
that rave progressive cheese crap. We have parties here in New Orleans 
and its like 30 people, no one really digs it, it's just chick. Miami 
not mucj different. Out in the West Coast a little different but in 
the Northeast, now we are talking. But like I said the US is pretty 
big and Underground, well it's like a needle in a haystack


j.d.

http://www.undergroundcommittee.com

504.837.4783 tel
504.553.5628 tel
504.553.5627 fax

Keepin' it real, keepin' it UNDERGROUND..Underground Committee.com



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From: Analog Headz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] a story?
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:58:48 +0200

well this is a funny story i would like to tell u people here.
i am a dj and i am from israel, in case u don`t know Psy-trance is huge
here, techno is very small, and yes when people here talk about techno 
they
only like hard stuff, like most people here really like hawtin but not 
like

carl craig and such.(i think that all the techno people here r less than
1000).
we did a couple of nits we got like 90 or less people inside.
now a good friend of main who is a goa dj but gives much respect to 
detroit
told asked me and my partner to spin is the small room of a big Goa 
party, i

mean they play stuff like 145BPM and even more.
it was very funny but sad too. i kicked off with stuff from SND,basic
channel,and alot of minimal dub music. after that we did play alot of 
micro

house stuff from poker-flat,playhouse,palette,kompakt force inc. ,7th
city,raygun and such. except for a couple of friends who likes us no 
one did
even pay attention some people looked at the SND record like it was a 
crazy

thing from mars. after 2 hours i got the idea no one cares so i played a
killer set of good minimal techno and mean ass elektro (there was only 
1 guy

who did breakdancing!!!- that was my audience).
i finished with the last 7th city with duvante and Lig. i didn`t know if i
should cry or lough.
thats the story wanted i wanted to share and i`ll be happy for some 
remarks.

AH



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Re: [313] Speaking of Jeff van dyke...

2001-11-24 Thread Glyph1001
He's was pretty good, except for a few minor trainwrecks.  I wonder what 
is making him so nervous, he was spot on at the musikundmaschine party. 
Anyway the guy busted out some old goodie, goodies like Shari Vari, 
people when ape over that...he also played an old early belgium techno 
track that goes, rock to the beat...I said rock to the beat..., forgot 
what it's called at the moment.  One Rythim is Rythim track which I call 
The Straw because it sounded like someone blowing into one.   Can 
anyone name that tune?  =)  He played alot of his purposemaker tracks 
and whoever said tracks like Bells isn't good, like those on the 
G-tech list, are haters because that track is hype, is well loved all 
over the world and the most important thing: the crowd goes nuts on it, 
everytime!  I didn't stay to hear the end of Jeff's set, and left at 
5:30 am 'cause my feet were killing me from dancing with heels on but 
over all it was a wonderful night.  I had fun.


glyph

Lorie R wrote:





Oops! I mean Mills.

How was he lastnight?


Lorie

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[313][Fwd: Check out DJ spotlight: T-1000 a.k.a. Alan Oldham]

2001-11-23 Thread Glyph1001
a little sumtin' sumtin to read.  =)  


happy turkey day!

--Glyph

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Re: [313] FinalScratch package price

2001-11-01 Thread Glyph1001

Damn that's wack...no Mac Version

glyph.

M Elliot-Knight wrote:

This is from an email directly from n2it that I got about 
FinalScratch... this version is $2,999.00 so that little Spin feature 
on DJ equipment was correct (if you buy this verison). Check the added 
feature that Richie and John have added to the package.


MEK


As part of this limited iiPROFSlo we will offer a completely congured, 
ready-to-use and ready-to-go system that consists of the

following components:
+ FINALSCRATCH software package
+ ScratchAmp signal processor
+ Three FINALSCRATCH records
+ Two FINALSCRATCH slipmats
+ Audio and USB cables
+ Installation and User's Manual
+ Sony Vaio or similar laptop loaded with a dual boot system of BeOS 
and Windows

+ After sales service, maintenance and e-mail support
FINALSCRATCH will come already loaded and ready to play with selected 
tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and Denitive
Records. You can then just load and `rip' your own music les and go from 
there.
The price for the complete PROFS is USD 2,999.00 excluding shipping, 
handling and taxes.


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