Re: (313) dancetracks.com
Rubbish online. You need to spend at least $50 and then you pay tons on shipping. Much of what you order isn't in stock and you end up having paid $30 in shipping for $10 of records. Good shop if you're in NY, though. - Original Message - From: nathan goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: (313) dancetracks.com hi folks has anyone had any experience with dancetracks via the net? what are the percentages like of having what they say is instock? thanks nath
Re: (313) Boogymann on Superhuit.
I think it's sample clearance issues. Whats the deal with the stream of one siders (or 2 siders with the same stuff on both sides!!) ? Bit of a sham - especially as we have to pay the import $$ in the UK ... Even a side of moodymann's random waffling would have been betetr than nothing :/ /moan
Re: (313) m u s i c
Abstract Thought - Hypothetical Situations LP I haven't been able to find this anywhere. Any UK people seen it in the shops?
Re: (313) m u s i c
Dan Curtin Distort.Archive.Desire (downlow) I haven't bought a Dan Curtin record since his album on Sublime and this is a real return to form. That frenetic, but funky as you like drum programming, weird jazzy melodies, gorgeous warm basslines. It's just ace, ace, ace. KIM Flores Monstrosi (Tigersushi) There's a handy Psychic TV track on the flip but it's the KIM track for me. I'm guessing it's a Krautrock thing - I recognise the Ghormengast studio, maybe Conny Plank's? - but it wouldn't be out of place on old Plastikman b-side, stripped down to just a beat, a bassline and eerie reverb. Krikor Pas De Norm (Karat) Like Akufen but less frantic, and more of a natural groove to me. Anthony Shakir's been playing it a lot and it was a highlight for me when I heard him. Static-ey hi hats, stolen strings and a vocoded voice saying bass. What more do you want? Plus I scored copies of Ultradyne's E-Coli and ...Is Evil releases. Wicked.
(313) Dan Curtin on Downlow - wtf?!
JT Minto let me slap you on the back for putting this out: this is f***ing kicking!
Re: (313) Technics MK5's
I'm not sure if these are the new Technics I used in Liverpool (Scott?) but something very weird happened with the pitch at one point. Basically it started wavering all over the place. When I mixed out, which was like mixing out of a badly drummed disco record, the new record was at about -6, which was not right at all but prior to that I thought I'd maybe had a wee bit too much to drink. I've heard other people have experienced similar things (Tristan?). Personally I'd buy a mkII. J - Original Message - From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: (313) Technics MK5's Didn't know these existed until I saw the posts here today... Has anyone used these badboys yet ? Some 'interesting' sounding features : Stylus Kick Cancel and Anti-Skip [??] Arm-end Scale for Quick Weight Setting [??] High Grade Audio Cable in Arm [do they sound noticeably diff now?] ... I notice theres still no mention of detachable phono cables tho - grr ! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Reynolds vs Degiorgio (was 29 Detroit 12s)
Ha! Ken I can be quite the drama queen. No, I just think it is an interesting debate. - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: RE: (313) Reynolds vs Degiorgio (was 29 Detroit 12s) Surely you're not interested in such cattiness Jonny?! ;-) -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Reynolds vs Degiorgio (was 29 Detroit 12s) I was intrigued to read of the spat between Simon Reynolds and Kirk Degiorgio and went on a hunt for the juicy details. I can only find Reynolds' blog entries, Degiorgio's response seems to have been taken off his website. That's a bit silly because he looks like he lost the argument to me. It's not often I find myself agreeing with Simon Reynold's but he's just right about white soul boys, I think. Anyone know the gist of Kirk Degiorgio's response? Rob? Your blog came up on my search.
Re: (313) Best lines to the DJ
Somebody recently came up to me to bet me a fiver he could make it to the end of my set without making a fool of himself. After drunkenly staggering back and falling over a sofa immediately afterwards he quickly conceded defeat. The same night a girl started licking my new shoes. Bizarre. Best response to inane punter harrassment seems to be to say slowly and clearly: Sorry, I'm not the DJ, he's gone off for a bit. (delivered in a - these aren't the droids you're looking for - style) Astonishingly this seems to satisfy people even if you're wearing headphones, pushing vinyl on turntables and fiddling with the mixer.
(313) Carl Craig wins case against Carol Marvin
Sorry if this has already been mentioned. Copy pasted from the DHP: Press Release * For Immediate Release DATE: 10 JULY 2003 COURT VERDICT PROVES CARL CRAIG'S CONTRACT AS CREATIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL WAS WRONGLY TERMINATED IN MAY 2001. CARL CRAIG VS. CAROL MARVIN AND POP CULTURE MEDIA JUDGE: ROBERT L. ZIOLKOWSKI COURT: STATE OF MICHIGAN WAYNE COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT TODAY 8 JURORS AWARDED CARL CRAIG VICTORY IN CONTRACT DISPUTE AGAINST CAROL MARVIN. THE TRIAL STARTED JULY 7, 2003 AND ENDED JULY 10, 2003 THE LAW SUIT WAS FILED IN MAY 2001. CRAIG WAS AWARDED DAMAGES THAT EQUAL THE REMAINDER OF HIS CONTRACTED FEE IN 2001 AND ALL UNPAID EXPENSES INCURRED DIRECTLY FROM 2000 DEMF. THESE EXPENSES INCLUDED ARTIST HOTEL EXPENSES, ARTIST FLIGHTS, AND ARTIST EQUIPMENT RENTAL FEES. CRAIG ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH POP CULTURE MEDIA AS CREATIVE DIRECTOR IN 2000. SINCE THE LAW SUIT WAS FILED IN 2001 CAROL MARVIN CHANGED ATTORNEYS FOUR (4) DIFFERENT TIMES IN A SUSPECTED ATTEMPT TO DELAY PROCEEDINGS. I'M HAPPY THIS IS OVER. THIS IS A WEIGHT THAT IS LIFTED FROM MY SHOULDERS AND NOW I CAN CONTINUE TO PURSUE MY MUSICAL AND BUSINESS ENDEAVORS SAYS CRAIG CRAIG IS ENJOYING THE SUCCESS OF HIS CURRENT PROJECT DETROIT EXPERIMENT ( WITH DETROIT BASED LEGENDS MARCUS BELGRAVE AND AMP FIDDLER ALONG WITH GUESTS BENNY MAUPIN, GERRY ALLEN, AND REGINA CARTER) AND WILL PERFORM AT THIS YEARS NEWPORT JAZZ AND NORTH SEA JAZZ FESTIVALS ALONG WITH OTHER TOURS GLOBALLY.
Re: (313) The message in Herbie's LPs (was Re: (313) amp fiddler lovewar)
My favourites: Empyrean Isles is far better than Maiden Voyage. The Prisoner Speak Like A Child are gorgeous, layered post bop lps. The Japanese only Dedication for the fantastic solo Nobu - and of the later electronic ones, my pick would be Sextant. Though all of Sextant, Mwandishi and Crossings are essential. I prefer this stuff to Headhunters and later. Saying that, most later albums have some track that makes it all worthwhile. If you can track them down, pick up the 12s of Stars In Your Eyes (promo for the extended mix) and Magic Number. There was a really tedious South Bank show (UK ITV) on Herbie Hancock last week. It didn't encourage me to run and grab his recent stuff. Jonny - Original Message - From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:57 AM Subject: (313) The message in Herbie's LPs (was Re: (313) amp fiddler lovewar) On 7/6/03 7:28 PM, Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you jazz fans, how about the top 3-5 must have Herbie Hancock LPs or moments ? Commentary encouraged. Maiden Voyage is a standout LP and track. Sublime mid 60s jazz exploration. The classic Dolphin Dance bookends the album. Head Hunters is the next must have. So completely influenced by 60s soul, and so influential on 70s funk and jazz. You know the bassline for Chameleon by heart even if you don't recognize the title. Trippy synth solos abound. I heard Sunlight on a Shake or CC mix and had to track down the 1977 release. Commercial, mildly funky, and so loaded with antique gear it'll make your head spin. Warning: vocoder in FULL effect. Most people point to Rockit from Future Shock next. An electro classic that's flat-out over-exposed right now. I haven't really listened to his last two releases enough to find favorite moments. That doesn't mean they aren't lurking in there. -- im P.S. Get a hold of Sound-System just to hear People are Changing. It's a cover of a brilliantly funky Timmy Thomas song.
Re: (313) Herbie H
Talking of Herbie - did anyone in the UK see the 'South Bank Show' last Sunday? They did a special on him. Loads of wicked old footage of him in the 70's/80's. Lots of interesting insights too. Hee hee. I don't like biographical type documentaries. I'd rather they got into the technical stuff, the problems they faced etc. Even if you know nothing in advance you learn something, and some of the enthusiasm rubs off. I saw a fantastic documentary on Mark Morris, the choreographer. Usually I'd put dance on a par with Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals but not after seeing that. Jurren: Flood is good, especially the cover art! Check with Nick the Record, I think he has one on sale. Hit me off list if you want. Maybe JT can recommend some stuff for us for the list? or anyone else? top 5 jazz lp's to find that we might like?? would be interested to know. Personally, I'll stick to Blue Note and suggest, as well as those Herbie Hancock LPs: Joe Henderson's Page One Kenny Dorham's Una Mas Bobby Hutcherson's Patterns Eric Dolphy Out To Lunch! Pete LaRoca Basra That's nowhere near enough! J
Re: (313) club sodade (was amp fiddler lovewar)
The 12 features both Kerri mixes on the 2x12 - they might slightly differ - plus instrumental and beats mixes of both. 3 tracks on each side, which isn't so great. But if, like me, you're only after those mixes and have already grabbed the Pepe Bradock ones then it's better value than the LP. - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) club sodade (was amp fiddler lovewar) I could well be wrong but I think the Kerri Chandler mixes were done on a separate 12 too.. __ yeah what is the deal with the separate 12... did it come out as a preview to the 2xLP or after, or what? What is different on it than the 2xLP, etc. Does anyone actually have both? Are there plans for any more? Cheers, Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) club sodade
The 12 features both Kerri mixes on the 2x12 - they might slightly differ - plus instrumental and beats mixes of both. 3 tracks on each side, which isn't so great. But if, like me, you're only after those mixes and have already grabbed the Pepe Bradock ones then it's better value than the LP. is the cc mix on the same 12 with the pepe mixes? it is, isnt it? what about the chateau flight? is that LP only? shame if so... yeah the LP was muy expensivo, a couple friends are gonna want this stuff so i'll point them to the seperate 12s...do they have nice covers too? just curious, the LP cover is so nice (but not worth an extra $10!) Yep, CC + Pepe Bradock. The FK remix came out about 5 or 6 years ago, too. Beyond that everything is exclusive to the LP, AFAIK.
(313) Late jazz?
i like this album a lot... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=CASS80307071313sql=An7jqeat24x a7 shake, i'll hit you up soon! okaybyebye I was going to ask if anyone had any strong recommendations on jazz from after the 70s. Andrew Hill's album from 2002, Dusk, is a firm favourite of mine - I'm listening to it for about the 200th time as I type. It isn't Marsalis style classic jazz, it isn't noisy art made for Wire readers, it's just ace. Much like Joe Henderson (yes OK, Jurren so what? ;) Andrew Hill just focused on his own musical personality, without caring much for fashion. That's a good signal that Here-lies-great-music if you ask me. Anyone else got some hot late jazz tips? Dusk: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=CASS70305161434sql=Aexg9keztaq7q
Re: (313) Prince (does not Compute)
Oh damn Sean, Erotic City is so much more than that f**king White Horse... :) glad you made that observation. now I know I'm not crazy. for years I've noticed that Prince likes to borrow heavily from Kraftwerk (and many other artists). I used to keep a mental list of his Kraftwerk inspired tracks, but havent really given it much thought lately. one example that immediately springs to mind: Computer Blue steals melodies from Computer World/Computer Love and Pocket Calculator. Darling Nikki was a rendition of another Kraftwerk tune, but cant recall which Trans Europe Express I think. Erotic City is just that Ride TheWhite Horse song. Anyone else think of any others?
Re: (313) We never know
Mine's on Creative out of Italy, too. It's been issued at various points on compilations, though I can't say which off the top of my head. Saw it on gemm recently.. But I thought I got it on creative.. An italian label..never seen it on buzz... is somebody know where iI can catch on vinyl D.May mixes of sueno latino (on buzz rec ?)
Re: (313) Bleep If It's Summer where you are
The tracklisting is... Soha Les Enfants Du Bled - Yellow Armando Land Of Confusion [Remix] - Fix Brown Bros Sunshine - Brown Bros Ten City My Piece Of Heaven [David Morales' Mix] - East West Needs Walking Thru Circles - Needs Voices Voices In My Mind - Sound Of Ministry Carolyn Harding Dream A Dream - Next Moov Kerri Chandler What Is 6 23? - King Street Voices Can You See The Light? - Voices Moodymann Goes On - Grassroots Caress Catch The Rhythm [Danny Krivit Edit] - Strut Paula Ralph Aint No Running Away [Frankie Feliciano Ricanstruction] - Estereo Ten City Whatever Makes You Happy [Kerri Chandler Remix] - Ibadan Davina Don't You Want It - Happy Blaze Louie Vega Brand New Day - MAW Jonny McIntosh did this sweet, summery house set for us at the Bleep43 party Saturday before last. Thanks to Tristan Watkins for kindly hosting the set online. http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/mixes/JonnyMcIntosh_Bleep43_21_06_2003.wma
Re: (313) Mojo interviews Prince OT (1985)
Didn't I read somwhere that you recently thought a moustache would be cool, Robert? - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:49 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mojo interviews Prince OT (1985) I remember thinking Morris Day and The Time were the coolest thing ever. What was I thinking?
Re: (313) itiswhatitis records
If David Cooper is still on the list, it's one of his Round Table distribution labels. Could it be the Cobblestone Jazz ep? Really excellent ep that come out I think last year; a couple of Canadian guys that sound like they're doing a live, improvised thing. Reminds me a little of the first Mahogani ep: really deep bassline, very nice keys. Many thanks for the info Chris, much appreciated. However, it's much more mecahnical than that I think? any more takers - not sure this is the one
Re: (313) 3rd wave djing
I'd never known what Ableton does so I just looked it up. F***ing hell do I want a go on that. It sounds ideal for general re-editing too - which I've previously being trying, without any success, to do in Logic (I'm on a Mac). That's what I want for my birthday. - Original Message - From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: RE: (313) 3rd wave djing -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 14:59 Fantastic...if this is 3rd wave djing then bring it on. Can anyone give me a couple of sentances on how this is done and what equipment is needed ? Definitely - I'd love to see more people getting into doing this sort of stuff! Basically you are alright with a copy of Ableton - you can control it adequately with a mouse and keyboard, and once you've got your tracks together and ready to mix, you're away! But to *really* step into the world of 3rd wave DJing, the best thing to do is get hold of a MIDI controller keyboard which has lots of knobs and sliders on it - map the sliders and knobs and keys to various Ableton controls (mutes, volume levels, effects sends) and before long you'll start to feel nearly as physically connected to the set you're playing as you do with traditional decks and vinyl. Brendan
(313) I could care less (was Hawtin or Mills...)
I could care less (or in the uk, I *couldn't* care less) Yeah, is this a cultural thing? Why do so many Americans say the opposite of what they mean on this?
Re: (313) Movement Question
Is that maybe that Krikor thing that Shake played when I saw him in Liverpool? Similar cut up approach to that Canadian beginning with 'A' - some strings and stuff. I liked it. Maybe it's that. Bet you're glad I'm back on 313 being helpful, eh? Desperately seeking for that track ID to! Now that we are on track ID's what is that track that every body from 7th city (Shake, Dan Bell and John Tejada) dropped in every set they played and except for Dan Bell i heard them play twice this weekend! It a minimal house track with a macintosh computer voice that says 'Bass' and some more talking but my brain is still to fried to remember it. It must be big tune because it looked that i was the only fool who did not recognised it :)
Re: (313) Movement Question
Yes, it's a similar approach to Akufen. Thanks :) Is that maybe that Krikor thing that Shake played when I saw him in Liverpool? Similar cut up approach to that Canadian beginning with 'A' - some strings and stuff. I liked it. Maybe it's that. Bet you're glad I'm back on 313 being helpful, eh? Akufen?
Re: (313) track id from i-F set?
Can't hear it but is it maybe Haven't Been Funked Enough by the Extras? J http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/smil/djsets/startdjset.sram?2534202+2584688+258 4508+3754699+9706873 4 mins in - electro/italo number help me funk it up, we gonna funk it up () what is this?
Re: (313) Subject: Re: (313) Moodymann Ltd edition Peacefrog ep
Flying records in London for 15 quid. They've sold out now, though. It's one sided, Shattered Dreams, I think matrix is PFG035 or thereabouts. I got mine on Saturday. I'm pretty sure they'd all gone by Monday. - Original Message - From: David Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: (313) Subject: Re: (313) Moodymann Ltd edition Peacefrog ep Can the two people who supposedly have this explain how they got it and maybe give some factual information about it - have you been sent a promo or did you buy it somewhere?
Re: (313) Moodymann Ltd edition Peacefrog ep
I think this one's probably Peacefrog's idea, to be fair. They've always been into limited press runs. So you got it, Placid? It is unfortunately very good, eh? i'm getting tired of these ltd edition, private pressing runs. i am as much a fan of kdj's work as the next house-head, but i'm not willing to jeopardize my financial well-being by dropping a ridiculous sum of money on a two to three track EP. because of these limitations, i don't get to enjoy the sounds from this lush lush deep work? that's a bunch of horse sh*t! ... and folks wonder why bootlegs are pressed up. sorry for the rant... it just gets frustrating trying to track down reasonably priced, innovative vinyl releases. peace -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 5:26 AM To: Jonny McIntosh; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Moodymann Ltd edition Peacefrog ep Lush lush lush lush lush deep moodymann... But bl***y expensive I believe the normal ep is coming out soon
Re: (313) nuphonic 4 - 2xLP
I don't know, to be honest. Nuphonic, apparently, were sitting on a whole load of Russell stuff which they planned to release. Now they've gone bust I hope someone somewhere still will. (There are some curious rumours as to why they went down...) Also, I think I heard tale that Danny Wang was going to release the remix of Block 16's Elektrokution that he did on Balihu? Can anyone confirm? i'm not really a fan of the label, but I bought this whole compilation double pack online just because it had this one Arthur Russell track that is really amazing then when the records arrive - it turns out that the a side that is meant to have the Russell track on it, is exactly the same as the b flip side on the same piece of wax - annoying !!! does anyone onlist own this dbl pack and can tell me whether this was a general mispress, or was i just a victim of incidental badluck?
Re: (313) a few finds and ?/Dance Mania
Sex Mania's nothing to do with Dance Mania as far as I know. All that stuff was NY based, not Chicago, and was Wild Pitch related. There was some great stuff on all those labels. It came up recently on the DHP: http://deephousepage.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=028105#0 0 Interesting stuff about Power doing Peacefrog's US distribution.
Re: (313) spotters Q
Hmm, I have a silver label with black writing with no artwork which is what we treat as 1st press at work. Sounds like E-Bloc have it right, or maybe all record shops conspire against you? ;) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:28 PM Subject: (313) spotters Q TomI have a copy of what I always thought was a first edition - as Dan says, white, black writing, Alan Oldham artwork. A-side art is a headless naked woman in fishnets (plus text: 'LIMITED EDTTION!! SERIOUS JACK NOISE'), b-side is a woman in what looks like retro flying gear (bomber jacket and goggles). Run-out groove says 'Archer'... I've also got one like this as well (hence selling my spare) - but heads I know who were around when these first hit e-bloc/spin inn swear blind to me that those Alan Oldham ones were like 2nd or 3rd issue The robbing fecking gits certainly sell the two plain text labels as first issue anyway.. Maybe they were the first, but didn't make it over here till after the others?? What about the one that has a silver and blue label too that I have seen - that's deffo around 88/89 issue What about the story that Derrick turned up over here to stay with Neil Rushton(pre all the network techno stuff) with a load of records, and sold them all over here? Is there any truth in that story? Dan might know.?
(313) Hello again
Hey! I've been off list for a while. I notice all the talk of Shake in Holland, sorry to be a bit late, but how was he? He was playing up at Scott Nick's T-Funkshun in Liverpool on Friday and played all kinds of stuff: KDJ, The Clash, old Prelude stuff and, of course, Radiohead. Someone's probably mentioned it already. It was a great sojourn oop north. Great to meet the debonair and few pints worse for wear Alex Bond - where did you get to? Left the T-Funkshuneers in the pub with Shake the next day, though he was strictly on the Mecca Cola. Not been much in the way of great Detroit records for me lately, but maybe I've just been missing the recommendations and playlists from here. Mills' Medium is maybe the only thing I've picked up. Oh, and the latest Theo Parrish with Hanna but that one's going to sit on the shelves, I think. Has anyone seen the Liaisons Dangereuses LP reissue here in the UK yet? Enough questions for one post.
Re: (313) blaze
Keeping My Mind is record number one on my wants list. I agree, it's strange Blaze have become popular now that they're not quite as on it as they were. Still, they come out with some quality cuts, and I think Natural Blaze was their best album. I don't have much to add to the recommendations, of early stuff my favourite's Sometimes Love by Jerry Edwards on Easy St. I don't know why this wasn't on either of those Pure Blaze compilations?! If You Should Need A Friend and Reaching stand out from then, too. They really got going in the period up to '94, I'd say, with the stuff on Sumo, Polar etc. Mid Nineties stuff like Debbie Pender, with those organ basslines, helped define that UK garage sound (for better or for worse), and Moonwalk is perhaps my favourite Blaze record ever. It'll be tracks like these they'll be remembered for, I imagine, rather than the likes of Star Suite. I think innovative house probably largely lies elsewhere these days. That's not to say I don't make a point of checking everything with their name on it though :) - Original Message - From: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: Re: (313) blaze not an album, but a e.p. black rascals 'keeping my mind' on sumo. one of the great deep house tracks. i've always thought it weird that blaze has become popular in the last few years when their production in the last five years or so seems but a mere shadow of their early work. but i guess that's just my personal taste. james
Re: (313) My Culture..My Music...
Post all your unwanted records to me. I am superficial as f**k like that. Coming from the UK, my parents only ever owned Kenny Rogers records, so I need all the help I can get. Thanks. I guess its time to take those Leroy Burgess and Patrick Adams records I have down to Record Time, and trade them in for some Lynyrd Skynyrd and Whitesnake records. You know. For some stuff I can feel.
Re: (313) Disco Top Tens
Here's ten that spring to mind. I don't know if I qualify as studious though :) Black Ivory Mainline First Choice Love Thang Jesse Gould Out Of Work First Choice Let No Man Put Asunder Diana Ross Love Hangover Dinosaur L Go Bang [Francois Kevorkian Remix] Loose Joints Is It All Over My Face? Chic I Want Your Love Ashford Simpson Found A Cure Dexter Wansel Life On Mars - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id How about a disco top ten Maarten? I know the list has been here before, but I'm always interested in studious people's lists. Be much obliged. k
Re: (313) Track ID
I agree Ken - but I think Do You Remember House? sucks :) I was born in 1977, so no, I don't remember house before it was house. Shoot me. I Think Of You and Gloria's Muse from the LP are both ace, but another Blaze triumph last year was their collaboration with LLV for Brand New Day. And I completely agree about it dividing people along soulful vs punk lines in their attitude to house, which is a shame. I know which side I'd rather be on, but great music is made without a guiding theory, rather just listening to your own voice - to get all hokey - and pointless genre divisions obscure that fact. However, I have some misgivings abt the underlying idea: that house has somehow been distorted by excessive modernism, hard beats, electronic emphasis - it seems to want to put the genie back into the bottle: I remember house when it really was a spiritual thing. Catchy phrase, but would I really want to not have had 'glitch house'? Also, some of the prime proponents of new styles in house it seemed to me during the 90s were none other than Blaze themselves. This is muddled or misguided thinking to me. Note well though, I love Hedge and Milan to bits, love every single thing they've done to bits including the whole of the latest album, I just think the idea of creating a dichotomy between 'rootsy' and 'modern' is wrong and you'll find all sorts of people and soul on either side of that artificial divide.
(313) Really late 2002 tops
Hey all, Not had email since NYE (btw, sincere and prolific apologies for being a drunken d!ck and not realising at Public Life...). I haven't heard the latest Drexciya stuff, and there are a few things people have mentioned I realise I've missed out on, but here's my tops of 2002 so far. First off, 10 for Steve techno. Though there's a few I haven't got round to picking up yet on Iridite, downlow, Keynote etc. Agent K Feed The Cat [Jason Brunton Remixes] (UK Laws Of Motion) Convextion Gray Sky Warm Car (US downLow) DJ Oji Una We Lift Our Hands In The Sanctuary (US Sancsoul)* Future Beat Alliance Head Ways (UK Emoticon) James Cotton Mind Your Manners (US Ghostly International) MOS Utilities 2 (NE Rushhour) Macho Cat Garage The Muffler Strut (US downLow) Macho Cat Garage Freedom For The Macho Cat (NE Viewlexx) Russ Gabriel Flip Down To Break (UK Emoticon) $tinkworx Todas Los Nochas (NE Delsin) *Jason Kessler did the design ;P Also, got a CD of The Moderator and latest $tinkworx on Keynote - these are both very, very good. It is part of my plans to ignore Dave Clarke's favourites, btw. There were tons of great reissues and edits, but other original work that got me the most included... Blaze I Think Of You from Spiritually Speaking LP (UK Slip 'N' Slide) Classic Man Lounge Sessions EP (US Natural Resource) Iz Diz Mouth [Pepe Bradock Remix] (UK Classic) Jill Scott Slowly Surely [Theo Parrish Remix] (US Ugly Edit) Joakim Cotton Gun EP (FR Versatile) Jovonn Spirit LP (US Track Mode) Kerri Chandler Basement, Red Light A Feeling 2 (US Madhouse) Kuniyuki Precious Hall (US Natural Resource) Larry Heard Praise [Tribal Remix] (US Trackmode) Larry Heard Tente Imaginar from Trip Do Brasil 2 EP 5 (FR Rhythmix) Leroy Burgess 2 (UK Soul Brother) Little Louie Vega feat. Blaze Brand New Day (US MAW) Los Hermanos Quetzal (US Los Hermanos) Metro Area LP (US Environ) Needs Walkin' Thru Circles (DE Needs) Ola Jagun The Ancestral Ryhthms Oda Oya (US Spiritual Life) Osunlade Touched My Soul from Pride 12 (US Set) Outlaw Soundworks Out [Joe Claussell Remix] (US Dancetracks) Peven Everett I Can't Believe I Loved Her (US Nitegrooves) Peven Everett Studio Confessions (UK Genuine) Scott Ferguson White Buffalo EP (DE Gigolo) Shaun Escoffery Space Rider [DJ Spinna Remix] (UK Oyster) Skatebaard Skateboarding Was A Crime (In 1989) (NO Tellektro) Theo Parrish Solitary Flight (US Sound Signature) Theo Parrish track on Detroit Beatdown comp.
Re: (313) music box vol.3
I think #2 was the one with Tour De France (Kraftwerk) and Domina (Gottsching)? Also had Sharivari (Number of Names), Peut Etre Pas (Liaisons Dangereuses) Optimo (Liquid Liquid). Did we ever get to the bottom of who did On On off the first volume? It's the track Jesse Saunders based his on apparently, but who did it? I hear that toot toot, beep beep sample a lot. Also, has the Liaisons Dangereuses reissue come out yet? can anyone tell me what was on number two (emc02)??
Re: (313) Ian Cheshire
I couldn't make it with my never ending cold... damn! Congratulations Ian! Just in time for Christmas. And I'll second the props for the skills - that man's tight! Ian Cheshire is an unbelievably tight, controlled hard techno DJ. If you have the chance to see him, run don't walk (he has a residency in Germany in addition to London gigs). He played 3 extrememly nice sets tonight, including two of the best treatments of Jaguar and Orange I've ever heard. I know this is no secret to Londoners, but the rest of the world should take note. The man has got sick skill. He is also about to become a father! He ran out of Slices #4 tonight as his wife went into labor. Looks like [313] will have a new subscriber soon. :)
Re: (313) top tunes 2002
Brendan mentioned the 95 North remix recently, which I haven't been able to find anywhere: any tips, preferably with online samples? I heard her Full Moon the other day for the first time, and thought it was a stunner. J 'coloured section' lp i guess], so i can safely post my top 2002! brandy 'what about us' [universal] interesting choice...this is a very wierd record for something that got into the charts really experimental rhythm that really jars when you first hear it then you get used to it... was it neptunes that did the prod?
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
I'm with KJ. Can I get a promo? ;) Seriously, it just so happens that the best techno being made right now is by people on or near to 313. Running through my favourite ten or twenty records this year I see several on Delsin, Rush Hour, Down Low and Emoticon. It's not all that surprising, perhaps: the best music tends to come out of groups of people all contributing ideas and communicating with each other. One of the great things about 313 is that it's facilitated a lot of that. It's seriously reaffirmed *my* faith in any music business, in any case - it can be done on a cottage industry level, and it can be a lot more fun and rewarding doing it that way. And all I do is DJ at friends' parties sometimes. Jonny Oh and i just got a preview of the new $tinkworks on Keynote and it is f**king great. Now i have a lot of his records but this one is definitly the best one i have heard until now... Oh and i am not forced to write this :) Isn't it ironic that fellow 313ers tend to mostly hype each others labels and music projects. Well Mr. 'Techno' isn't it ironic that you question the credebility of listmembers. I find it really insulting that you do not believe me when i say that a record is good. There are a lot of likeminded people on this list so some of them run a record label and/or produce the music you like and if i can't say that i like that because you think i am just hyping listmembers then i think your just here to troll around
Re: (313) Re: new vinyl recommendations
I don't know what you are all on about. It's ace. Better than Transition, too, Stephen - none of that nonsense self help spiel ;) On an aside, I just got delivery of the Convextion 12 on downLow. As usual, some of the best singles of the year arrive at the end, this is superb! the new los hermanos quetzal was a little disapointing, it sounds a little cheesy like trance, i don't see what all the hype is about. cant say Im too impressed either to be honest - dunno if Id go quite as far as trance tho ;) saying that I liked the first hermanos but it still sounded very jaguar-esque to me !
Re: (313) mixer advice
Two Scots shelling out for an Allen Heath mixer (I've got the same as Toby's)! Take that Brendan! It must be good :) It's maybe not the price range currently being talked about? There's no LFO on mine, is that a feature of more recent models? - Original Message - From: Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: RE: (313) mixer advice Agreed, I got a xone:32 for around 400 and it seems really nice and solid too - having a filter on the mixer is quite a cool and worthwile addition (specially when it has an LFO to modulate it :)
Re: (313) d'angelo id
Spanish Joint There's an excellent reedit/remix by 95 North that's, IMO, superior. - Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: (313) d'angelo id there's a song by d'angelo that i've heard a lot of house dj's usetheo parrish used it in his first demf set a few years back. does anyone know the name? lks
Re: (313) d'angelo id
Spanish Joint There's an excellent reedit/remix by 95 North that's, IMO, superior. Do you have release info on this, or is there matrix info if it's a white label (I thought it was)? Been meaning to track this down for ages. I thought there wasn't a lot of difference between original and re-edit but I've never heard them side-by-side. Is it just pressing, sound quality, etc, or have they made it fixed-tempo as well? In short, why d'ya like it better? I'm not at home, as you can guess but I have it backed with an edit of Stevie Wonder. I can't remember which track, maybe Another Star but I'm not sure. Matrix is WON001. No artist info is given. Side by side, there's little difference: slightly better EQing for the dancefloor, less flabby. I can't really put my finger on it exactly. The LP version just sounds a bit weaker in comparison.
Re: (313) rhythm tracks?
Two of my favourite rhythm tracks: Farley Funkin With The Drums (House) with Pumping The Bass, I think - 1st track, anyway. And Virgo Go Wild Rhythm Tracks (Other Side) - 3rd track on side 2! Rock those rhythms!
Re: (313) interesting stuff? (was RE: (313) re: best decks)
The Artcyclopedia (http://www.artcyclopedia.com) describes minimalism as 'a style of art in which objects are stripped down to their elemental, geometric form, and presented in an impersonal manner'. Robert Hood's Minimal Nation EP (Axis, 1994) is as pure as it gets, discharging solidly 3-dimensional shapes into the sonicsphere. Listening to Rhythm, you meditate on its building blocks of melody and rhythm, and find in them sonic paradoxes worthy of Escher's drawings. http://www.lipsons.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/escher/ascending.html And don't try to tell me it can't be done without cheating!!! ;)
Re: (313) re: best decks
But it's worth persevering with. I rarely touch the record or platter and it gives you far more control over those records that aren't constant, e.g. disco. It also doesn't sound so obvious. You also become far more sensitive to tempo changes - it'll take about 10-20 seconds to get stuff pretty much dead on when cueing up. I wouldn't follow Pierre when it comes to beat matching in any case ;) I've yet to master the trick of using the pitch adjust to do it. Tricky, but the best way. jeebers--it's bad to slow a record by dragging your finger against the platter? does the same apply to speeding the record up by twisting the spindle? i just watched what dj pierre did and tried to do the same.
Re: (313) re: best decks
I don't mean to go on, but... You can *hear* whether a record is too fast or slow. You don't have to know in advance. Also: cueing up is *faster* when you get used to not touching the records. Try it. If anything, pitch mixing means you have more control over records and therefore don't have to worry about, say, disco records that speed up at a chorus: you accurately compensate as it happens. I'll say it again: try it. I don't touch records in the mix, and I don't organise my records by bpm or front - back (I'm not sure what that means but I think you mean programming out a set in advance), and believe it or not, can mix records I've never heard before: I buy new ones after all. And it is much easier doing this by using the pitch control. Depends a little bit on the amount of time you've got to get the mix in, and whether or not the target track is being thrown out to into the open, or whether it's only in your cans. Pitch mixing also means you've got to know your tracks very well, OR (I emphasise or) that you've cheated in some way (front-back box, or BPM's on labels). Horses for courses as they say. ;)
Re: (313) re: best decks
I've thought about not replying to this, but your tone annoys me. More fool me :P So I apologise for being involved in this most ludicrous of threads. I don't quite get what you're saying - you're right. Please try and construct well formed sentences, it makes it easier for me. I'm suggesting people can try the pitch control technique - it's not, as you seem to be saying (and this is a prime example of where you get incoherent), cheating or impossible. It isn't: I do it, others do it and it's fine. It's OK. Maybe you just can't manage it. That's OK too. Maybe you feel your 6 years' professional experience is being undermined? I'm sorry about that. All I am suggesting is that it can be done and that it has it's benefits. But then *you* are the one telling us about horses for courses, so you know this, right? Anyway, I'm not going to continue flogging this dead horse. If you feel the need to continue your hilarious gags like the CJ initials one, do it offlist, and try the even better gag: Have you got a rubber, Jonny. It kills me every time. Sorry 313. Maybe I've been reading the DHP too much lately. I you're all getting the wrong end of the stick with what I'm saying. Firstly, my comments were in association to a little bit upon the circumstances (i.e. awkward venue acoustics, bad/underpowered/non-existant monitors, headphone breakdown). Secondly, I worked long and hard enough to mix either via touching or shifting since 1991 (professionally for 6 years) using a mix of the two as a basis. Lastly, You can *hear* whether a record is too fast or slow. You don't have to know in advance. - ahhh now I know why headphones and a monitor come in handy. Please. :) I'll reiterate Horses for courses as they say. BTW, you're initials ain't CJ are they? :) I think I got out of bed on the wrong side this morning. This sarcastic headache won't waver. Dscaper
Re: (313) re: best decks
OK. If I've misread I apologise, though I'll confess I'm still unable to see it when I read your emails. That's not reading between lines :) Just one point, I'm sure you *can* play unknown records on the fly: all records are unknown at some point. That's precisely my point about pitch control: it's a lot easier. If it isn't your bag, then fair enough. I don't think we actually disagree there, given my misreading. And I'm not suggesting you do have to do it all the time. As Neil pointed out to me, if you need to be at plus 8, you're going to have to use your hands. I'm not claiming there's any more merit in it than as a general approach. If I've given the impression of suggesting people must mix in one way then that'll be my mistake. My last post on this. Take care, J R McIntosh ;)
Re: (313) ugly edits
#1 has been bootlegged and is apparently doing the rounds in the UK for 6.5UKP, so don't go paying silly prices. There have clearly been far more than the 500 copies of the original rumoured to have been pressed. I like the irony of the bootlegged bootleg, especially with all the rubbish rumours and inflated prices that have surrounded it. That's the sound of someone who fell for it, yes ;) Support your local bootleg bootlegger.
Re: (313) SLICES #3
Not much to add to this, but that I had a really great time. Any night I end up fully baked at 5am with my head between my speakers listening through West Ends and Preludes rates highly. Ken did an excellent job getting them going: even the Norwich City supporters seemed to be bobbing their heads (I can't understand why they were there - they were playing Palace but at home?). If I had one complaint it would be that you played Promised Land, reducing already slight choice of records by one. I was badly prepared as it turns out: I ended up playing every record in my bag and a b-side I've never even listened to before... doh. One trainspot I will do for you Anya was my favourite moment: Bas Noir's Addicted 2 Luv [Tony Humphries dub] - I don't care about anyone else but *I* was going off when I played that :) Shawn - I will remind you of that Sheila E offer ;) The special guest played some classics for me, too: The Word Is Love, Clay Acox's Keep On Dancing. Top stuff. My ears are still ringing, but that might be the West End/Prelude abuse when I got home. Brendan: my D Train favourite is Trying To Get Over. The highlight for me, though, was seeing everyone. I've said it before but London 313ers are some of the nicest, most down to earth people. BIG shout outs to you all: Dan, Brendan, Guy, Nicole, Anya, a not as drunken as usual Tristan, Ian and of course massive thanks to Ken, Toby and Emile. See you at the next one!
Re: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna
What is this Soulseek people speak of? Will it help me in my attempts to preview records before going down the record shop? If so, please send me instructions off list. Fanks girlsnboys. there's soulseek of course ;-)
Fw: (313) [313] rockin' doubles.
OK, OK, Mr bad language filter, you win: the Sh!t... The Kenny Larkin mix of Xirtam 2 is downright dangerous with two copies. As is doubles of the CC Drums Suck mix of Dave Angel (whatever it is called, I forget right now). Also, try scratching a double of 69 Poi et Pas back a half beat or two as it dips into the filter - as it comes out it's still phazing but the resulting rhythm is wicked. Things with filtering going on work well like that: The Sh!t also springs to mind. Sean Deason as Freq's 'Xirtram 2'. There's a Claude Young on Frictional I like to mess with too, but I can never seem to get it quite right.
Re: (313) name that tune
My reasons for not owning a mobile are slipping away beneath me. First the Under Mi Sleng Teng ring tone and now this... That Shazam works on mad rare soul records, like real obscure stuff. Haven't tried any techno though.
Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly
Yeah! And proper dark too. I preferred the simple basement and ground floor set up. I haven't been for years but there used to be a wee raised bit in the middle of the ground level dancefloor and it'd be well dangerous when it was pitch dark. Pure @ the Venue back then set up high hopes for life in me that are rarely matched. The Venue in Edinburgh - its dark, its sweaty, the bogs are useless, the sound systenm is some random stacks of speakers but what more could you ask of a techno club :) somehow the fact that its the only place in edinburgh to see the likes of jeff mills, dave clarke, dj funk, derrick may, mark farina etc means that its pretty rocking and somehow the mankiness kind of suits the tunes!
Re: (313) November parties in London
Sat 16/11 - Slices#3 @ Public Life - Jonny McIntosh, Ken Odeluga + v.special guest www.bleep43.com Fabric - DJ Hell Damn, DJ Hell's got my number - he put Miss Kittin up against me in Liverpool and now he realises he better go do his own dirty work. Come on ya bas! Whilst on the subject, the recent Scott Ferguson (of Ferris Park) 12 on Gigolo is quality. I've bought a ton (well actually two tons) of records, and will post reviews to twoplayer.co.uk as soon as I've ploughed through them all.
Re: (313) ot politics
dunno, but bear in mind that when you arrive we will lock you up when does the boat leave, somebody save me a seat $*I^%O%*^ jt
Re: (313) theo track id
It's deffo James Mason, Sweet Power Your Embrace from the LP Rhythm of Life (which got repressed about 18 months or so ago). Not sure if it came out on a 12 or not... pretty sure it's james mason It did come out on 12 fairly recently, i.e. about 2 or 3 years ago. One of those reissue series, I forget which label, but the kind of thing you pick up in Selectadisc/Fopp. Also track down his absolutely stunning I Want Your Love 12 from the mid 90s. I'm pretty sure Soul Brother reissued that too, but my copy's on Mighty Fine. It's essential.
Re: (313) magic trax/ Fowlkes
I've got the Tresor 12 of Magic Trax: it's got Flash Flood, a Drexciya track, FFWD and something else (maybe Blake Baxter?). What else is on the bootleg? I never realised that the Infiniti Collection came out on vinyl (I recently came upon the promo Sonar 123 on Metroplex, the Peacefrog 12 of which I looked for for years)! I spent a long Christmas holiday in the Hong Kong new territories with that, Landcruising and Sean Deason's Razorback on CD. All 3 conjure fantastic, vivid recollections of rickety boat trips out to island restaurants and Christmas Eve midnight treks through the countryside to pick up champagne from a 7-11. Jonny - Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: Re: (313) magic trax/ Fowlkes It's called 'Flash Flood'? It's the last track on the 2nd side on my copy (which is the promo/bootleg or whatever). Another listmember mentoined it was re-released on Tresor, so I just checked and found both the Ron Cook you wanted and this Infiniti track on Tresor 36 'Magic Tracks', and the Infiniti but hey uh wasnt it magic trax we were talking about in the first place? i'm suddenly very confused...magic trax (the promo one with ron) is 8 tracks on 12 and it is one of the quietest records i own which is why i'm looking for it somewhere besides magic trax. i dunno if ffwd is on there or not but i'm also really after ron's release on metroplex...i forget what number it was, in the teens somewhere...if anybody could comment on it or give more info i'd sure appreciate it! jt _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
Personally, I like to get the dancers dancing and the 'spotters 'spotting: I like having the whooping, screaming, yelling, jacking, climbing the walls AND the googly eyed what's he doing?!? What's that record?! You don't have to dance to recognise that it's a pretty similar achievement: everyone comes away saying, damn he/she banged it out - *that's* what I'm after. As to how you do it, do it any way you want to. I used to do tricks far more than I do now, I now never scratch beyond the odd second copy doubling up, and I pretty much conform to Cyclone's sleep house school of DJing. I certainly *wouldn't* say that the mix supercedes the records - quite the opposite - and in any case, it's just something that I have observed works better for the music I play. Some of the sleep house gang would say that mixing it up in the Mills style is mix over content, but they'd be equally wrong. It's horses for courses, and I suppose a good DJ will adapt accordingly. In my case, it's certainly not lack of skill - I'm relying on some charity here :) - nor is it some deeper than thou homage to the house canon, it just works for me. Not to say there aren't style over content DJs, but they're the *real* boring ones. All just IMHO.
Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
And I'll quickly add I don't always get to do what I like, so don't kick my head in if I don't have you climbing walls ;) ... Johnny Mcintosh will be appearing at Public Life, London on 16 November, in Slices #3, dedicated to all forms of house. :o) Personally, I like to get the dancers dancing and the 'spotters 'spotting: I like having the whooping, screaming, yelling, jacking, climbing the walls
Re: (313) old tresors
Last night I got home and switched on Radio 4 - it's the new Environ - and the leading Edge science show was discussing Terry Riley's Sun Rings composition for the Kronos Quartet. It's based on some sounds obtained from plasma waves in and around earth. The bit I caught was about these waves being thrown up by the Earth's electromagnetic fields and travelling to the poles. Higher frequencies arrive before lower ones so the recording have this sliding sound. It's eerie as. But the Jupiter ones (jovial? har har) are melodic and rhythmic. It all sounded superb. Check them out, and have a read, at: http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/space-audio/ kj: Someone told me that the vinyl version of Rings of Saturn also has the tracks cut at a scaled size as the actual rings of saturn. nd that they based the sound of the track on the metrial of the ring. each ring apparently has a different substance, and they tried to reflect that in the sound. [i think i got this from odwo keshun's book, can't even recollect the title right now, so all of the above might have been my own immagination. i'll look it up when i get home.] jurren
Re: (313) old tresors
Radio 4 is what makes the UK worth living in. I listen to nothing else on the radio. I'm deadly serious on both counts. After that there was Melvyn Bragg's In Our Time, which is ace too, but I had guests. It's a right laugh round mine, believe me: later on I settled down to read up on Donald Davidson and finish Ovid's Metamorphoses. With a glass of Lagavulin and my cat. I may look 17 on the outside, but I'm about 60 on the inside. In any case, I have to listen to Radio 4 in order to pick up those secret Oxbridge codes I was taught when I did that how to run the country class for Mods.
Re: (313) liasons...
Speaking of Conny Plank, someone a while back (was it you Matt?) posted a link to a good source for Harmonia, Cluster etc. on CD. I'm especially looking for the Harmonia albums but even Rough Trade never has them in stock. So if you could repost that link I'd be grateful. Oh, and good looking out for that reissue info, Alex. That'll save me a bit of cash. Jonny - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dan Sicko (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: RE: (313) liasons... It took me years to find out anything about this wicked old band. I was just looking on the deephousepage and came across this link. It seems they're re-issuing *that* LP (you know, the one that Carl Craig, Kirk Degiorgio etc sampled). Which is good I guess. http://www.liaisonsdangereuses.de/li/index.htm Yeah I think the re-issue is a good thing, people need to know and hear this influence. The oft-overlook missing link here is legendary German producer Conny Plank, who has produced other greats like early Kraftwerk, and even D.A.F., Ultravox, (and I think even has some Devo). Anyway there's no doubt the Liasons music had a big influence on the 80's Detroit homemede clique/club prep scene (a la Charivari, Direct Drive, Giavanti, Luomo Detroit, etc.) when it was all about european names clothing styles, import records and stiff kraftwerkian jerky nu-wave funk. Refer to Techo Rebels book, chapter 2 Party Out of Bounds for more on this cool melting pot (also united in part by what Mojo was playing on the radio airwaves)... peace, Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) new records and public life
I've heard mixed reviews of this but I haven't heard it yet - I take it it's the Kraftwerk sampling Tranz 12? The last MAW I liked was Odyssey about 4 years ago but all of a sudden I've started liking some things: the Jazzanova mix of Our Time Is Coming is great - a kind of Roy Ayers megamix thing, and V's In Time I really like, too. I've heard KDJ playing MAW records, though that was about 4 years ago, too ;) - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: RE: (313) new records and public life gotta also mention this new MAW record that made me do a double take when I heard it in the store. Yo *I* gotta do a double take when I see MAW getting props on 313... Minto are you overdoing your medication again ??? ;)
(313) 313 @ Public Life photos
Hey all, Anya's posted some pictures of the list party @ Public Life back in May and I've put them up on the net: www.timetojack.org/publiclife.htm No captions, as I don't know who's who in all of them, so let me know off list and I'll add them. I'm the sweaty chimp in the fifth photo. Makes me look 17. Do I anyway? Don't answer that. Ten pence if you can ID the record I'm playing. J
Re: (313) 313 @ Public Life photos
I've added a few frankly hilarious captions. Feel free to add people IDs and correct me where I've got it wrong. I was very drunk that night but admittedly am not now, and I'm still unsure who's who. J
Re: (313) 313 @ Public Life photos
I don't smoke and the barmaid wouldn't let me buy anything non alcoholic. Actually, come midnight that was clearly untrue. - Original Message - From: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@Hyperreal.Org' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313 @ Public Life photos Not if they're like me and don't smoke, 'cause then you have a glass of Jack Daniels attached to your hand. -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jonny McIntosh Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 @ Public Life photos do the DJ's and performers *ever* perform without a cigarette dangling from thier mouths? not according to these photos they dont :^) sean
Re: (313) 313 @ Public Life photos
I duffed that gag up, didn't I? Should have read wouldn't let me buy anything alcoholic. You may continue. I don't smoke and the barmaid wouldn't let me buy anything non alcoholic. Actually, come midnight that was clearly untrue.
Re: (313) What are the essential Metro Area releases??
Annoyingly, the US version has a different tracklisting to the EU version. The former's got a new track whereas the latter's got an old one. So I'm going to have to try and score a US pressing. Whilst on the Balihu tip, check out Danny Wang and Brennan Green's remix of Crazy Penis on Paper. A top slow jam with ace strings and a heart wrenching dub. My girlfriend pointed out it will mix well with Leroy Hutson's All Because Of You, and she was right. Keep an ear out for DJ Shakides in the near future, or maybe not because I will steal it and pretend that I invented it. I'm wearing jeans while I type this. JONNY For the past two years I've found every single one of them to be essential. So much so that i get alot of flak from my Detroit DJ brethern for playing them so damn much. To say nothing of the fact I've had copies hoisted from my box before. The album contains six of the tracks from the EP series and four brank cracklin' new tracks as well. I usually tell people to by #'s 2 and 3 first, as I think The Art of Hot and Caught Up are two of the finest things that puts most electronic music to shame. And if you dig those releases, may I also suggest Daniel Wang's Balihu label. Just as funky, but with more of a raw twist to the tunes. I'm wearing a suit while typing this. rob
Re: (313) Record cleaners
This came up not so long ago, but the general agreement was: Slightly soapy, lukewarm water, rinsed gently will do the job pretty well. This has best results in my experience. For some things lighter fuel's OK, but for sticky crap - like the Irn Bru I had on a Donald Byrd LP - soapy water is superior. Just make sure it's not too hot, obviously. Commercial record cleaning fluid is usually just cleaner lighter fuel, and far too expensive. You can apparently get mini hoover things which do the job best, but I wouldn't get that anal. - Original Message - From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:51 AM Subject: (313) Record cleaners Need to clean some of mine up... What do u recommend Placid -- http://www.acid-house.net Everything you wanted to know about acid house
Re: (313) t-funkshun
I am still intrigued, as I know you are Jonny, to find out the origin of one punter's claim that you had played UR's Seawolf at 33rpm. Answers on a postcard. I'm thinking maybe Tyree's Video Crash?
Re: (313) Fingers
You could pick up the recent reissue of Classic Fingers - nicely done on 3 bits of vinyl. The previous one on Blackmarket was only 2 slices. Amnesia has recently been bootlegged and features Waterfalls. Picking up the originals can be hard, but then you can be patient (I'm not very good at that) and save yourself a fortune. Just for the record, it's Chuck Roberts, not Chuck D on that release on Juno. His is the In the beginning there was... version that came out on the UK label Desire originally. J Ok, I'll get serious for a bit - anyone tried to get hold of any classic Fingers recently? (I'm thinking of Waterfalls and the like). How difficult is it going to be?
Re: (313) Fingers
Just for the record, it's Chuck Roberts, not Chuck D on that release on Juno. His is the In the beginning there was... version that came out on the UK label Desire originally. For the record. That speech was originally on Rhythm controll - my house released in 1987 on catch a beat records.. Larry heard took it and stuck it over can u feel it... Nice stats :) Did Larry Heard actually do it? I was never sure if this was a cheeky bootleg or not. J
(313) t-funkshun
Just a quickie to file my report on Scott McGill T-Funkshun's new Liverpool night. These guys are really doing their bit to represent quality music in Liverpool, and they're a great bunch - I had a great time on Friday night. They are also doing their bit to support the local licensed trade: I left three of them at 2pm the following day, still in the pub, with a large queue of Sambucas lined up. I bow down... ;) The next couple of nights with Baby Ford and then Luke Solomon will be great, never mind Valentine's Day. I also bumped into an old school friend, Jamie Ball, whose Turning Point records are as bonkers and scary as I'd expect. Check out Mark Forshaw's Revolution - with a healthy dose of Rob Hood influence. 0151 represents! J - Time to Jack: www.timetojack.org Jonny McIntosh, Someone Dressed In Beige DJ Oil Water
Re: (313) no subject
I'd just wish he would make more stuff in this vein. Or as we periodically lament: just more stuff full stop. Please!
Re: (313) is it all over my face
There are two versions. Originally Is it all over my face came out backed with Pop your funk and then got released again with a male vocal backed with the original female vocal. You can fairly easily find the reissue on West End that is the male and female vocals. Miles Davis: my faves are In A Silent Way, Filles De Kilimanjaro and ESP. Jonny I have a compilation from Larry Levan with loose joints - is it all over my face on it. Great disco cut, but I heard someone play a version with a male vocal in it? This is a different version than the one the larry levan west-end compilation. Is it a mix featured on the original west end release back in the day? help! And second, I am getting more and more into the jazz kind of things.. but I want to get me some miles davis stuf (pretty obvious).. but I dont know wich lps I should purchase... any suggestions?
Re: (313) is it all over my face
Oh, and the male vocal is actually Arthur Russell himself. Like Danny Wang on that first Balihu I have often wondered what on earth he is saying. Might have got which is the original mixed up, so don't believe me on that. There are two versions. Originally Is it all over my face came out backed with Pop your funk and then got released again with a male vocal backed with the original female vocal. You can fairly easily find the reissue on West End that is the male and female vocals.
Re: (313) is it all over my face
I'm guessing that one is the original, then (oops), and the other is the Larry Levan mix from the second release on West End. I told you not to believe me. with the original female vocal. You can fairly easily find the reissue on West End that is the male and female vocals. I have this reissue as well as a Male vocal version on the Nuphonic Loft Compilation- correct me if i'm wrong, but the male vocal version on the Loft Comp is different (better in my opinion) than the one on west end- was there an original pressing for the male vocal version on the loft comp?
(313) 3 posts in one
2)so what have been your most lucky finds? Arthur Russell's World of Deep (second copy) for the equivalent of about 2 UKP amongst mountains of cack in the only record shop open in Ghent at 9am. And I had repeatedly told Red D it wasn't worth the energy. It is always worth the energy. My first copy was $6 sealed, too.
Re: (313) Whatever happened to...
There's quite a few towards the end of it's time that are pretty pointless, IMO. Though the title of bad records don't usually stick in my mind, I can remember loathing the Camacho Project 12, Slave. You also get some great Simonelli stuff towards the end of the line. Nobody's mentioned Aphrodisiac's Song To The Siren - sounds a bit dated now, but it's still a great deep house tune. I really want to get my hands on more Nu Groove stuff... But what records are considered to be definate NO BUYS?
Re: (313) Vladislav Delay Saturday is Sold Out
Which Tate is it at? I've got a funny feeling my mate Dan is playing at the Tate Britain this weekend. Crap! Just called the Tate - sold out. Anyone have an extra ticket or two?
[313] Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet
It's Red D, I'll get in touch and let him know. And stop bypassing my mail filters, please! My inbox cannae cope. J - Original Message - From: Neontsetse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313s 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet anyone also got this one here :): Hallo, Ik ben met verlof tot vrijdag 20 september. Ik zal uw mailtje dus pas op maandag 23 september kunnen lezen. Voor dringende zaken kan je wel terecht op de jeugddienst: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 09/381.95.20. Groetjes, Bart seems like an automatic reply thing technology-gaps in the 313-system ? shoutz Bart - have a nice holiday ? :D
[313] record crates
Anyone know where I can get those plastic crates that are a perfect fit for twelves? (In the UK). I don't want those collapsible multi coloured ones from BQ as they break too easy. My shelves are full and I keep knocking records across the floor. Thanks in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] record crates
Thanks everyone. I'm glad there are options other than a day of young couple hell in the distant lands of Wembley's Ikea... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] TP and some new releases
the nubian mindz track on basic laws 2 is dope, to me it sounds like an early 90's deep house/techno track. the other track is nice too, but the nubian mindz tune is the one. It's the other way round for me. The Nubian Mindz track just seems poorly executed to my ears, and the vocal sample annoys, but the Freedom Soundz track is like an old wired-up Kenlou track: those snares! Recent buys for me: Blaze Spiritually Speaking LP - the EWF comparisons at their most apt. My favourite's the Amira collaboration, I Think Of You. Freaks The Washing Machine. A cut above the usual bouncy fare. Jazzanova remix of MAW's Our Time Is Coming - a Roy Ayers megamix remix. Osunlade pres. Nadirah Shakoor (sp? - not as bad as Jurren's attempt on Jacek Sienkiewicz, I hope ;). The slower cut, Touched My Soul grabbed me a few months back, I'm glad it's now out and I found it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] t-funkshun is back
Superfluous mixing. Heh heh. I hear there's a lot of that about these days. that. I regard Jonny right up there as a dj; superfluously mixing through house, disco, soul, techno, whatever. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] antal carl craig mixes
Leroy Burgess (from The Nick Straker band and others ) will perform in Paradiso in october. Was he? Also Black Ivory, Dazzle, Inner Life, Bumblebee Unlimited, Convertion, Phreek, the Aleems... I brought in a tape of the excellent Logg LP to listen to today. Leroy all the way! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mother father sister brother
There's a short version and a long version, and it's the second half of the long version that's mainly sampled. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the short version was the LP version and the long one the Tom Moulton remix? In any case, it ought to be quite easy to track down the long version you're after on a comp: I'd recommend the Norman Jay compilation of stuff on Philadelphia International on Harmless or BBE (can't remember which). Jonny wich version of MFSB - the message is love did Nick Holder sample on fruit loops - the message is love and Carl Craig on frs - the message is love? I have the original.. but there is not that high organ part in it, that bothe those records sample.. maybee it is the danny krivit re-edit I am looking for? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of them mixes over at hotmix. I'm ambivalent about their reasons: the resurgence of electro/new wave/italo type stuff is no different to all other music in that most of its rubbish (I mean Italo itself has got a pretty bad quality ratio) and the hotmix/clone/viewlexx stuff tends be the good stuff for me. And although the Electroclash thing can be overblown, people with peaked haircuts are fairly benign. All the media hype doesn't stop anyone from getting on doing their own thing, really. Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons. Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle, or some such thing. I hope they still make records, though Viewlexx has stopped. just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was looking for the I-f mixes, which are still up at http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too. I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of them mixes over at hotmix. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [313] another causality
Argghh! The mixes aren't there though, just the links. Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was looking for the I-f mixes, which are still up at http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too. I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of them mixes over at hotmix. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] moodymann @ demf2000
KDJ plays the later disco mix which came out in 1979 (or 78) and is just subtitled New Version. I have it on a UK EMI 12 release. 05. william devaughn - be thankfull on wich album and on wich label has this been released? I have what I believe to be the original album - Be Thankful for What You've Got (the title track is the hit obviously) on Roxbury records circa 1974. The single has been re-released many times and is readily avaliable in the hot classics series of 12s. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Viewlexx/ I-f 12 ID
Which I-f 12 has the following track listing? Burning Ignorance Slowfight/ Runner Theme from PACK remix Because it is ace and I must track it down. Thanks, Jonny - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] it´s house!
Chip E It's House (or It's Dub) on a DJ International 12 that has 6 early Chip E cuts. Also has Time To Jack on it. The original came out on House in around '84, I think? Jonny The vocals are indeed saying its house, its house! Well.. Ron Hardy used to play an early chicago record from 1984 with these vocals.. just a beat , little B-line.. and the vocals twisted and wrapped ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Prescription page
Right, I've brought in all my Prescriptions and knocked up a quick page which you can view at: www.timetojack.org/prescription/ Let me know of any spelling errors or other problems. I'm planning on scanning in labels later on, but our scanner is crap and our design software pretty basic, so if anyone fancies giving it a shot, please do. I'm aiming for jpegs 100 pixels wide, or thereabouts. Tristan's offered to fill in the blanks in the list, so that'll be OK, but if anyone has spare copies of the blanks, drop me a line. Cheers, Jonny I'll do it if you want, I've got some free webspace and time. If anyone wants to send me a copy of that Chuggles Nagual 12 to help complete the set, that'd be good ;) But seriously, I'm happy to give it a shot. I'm not doing much at work today except umm and ahh over whether I think Kevin Yost is really cheesy. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ugly Edits?
Sorry Paul, not having a pop at you personally, I just think it's weird that you could dismiss a record that you liked up till this morining now you know it has a sample in it. I do that all the time and am unashamed. I can't listen to half of Glenn Underground's old records nowadays as a result. Maybe I'm fickle, but I'm not really fussed about that. On the other hand, I knew Deep Burnt was a sample and I still think it's ace. Even if I play it every single time I DJ. BTW, Little Sunflower is originally on Hubbard's Backlash album and is excellently covered by jazz harpist, and Detroiter, Dorothy Ashby (Afro Harping LP) and elsewhere. I recommend hunting down these two versions if you care. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: 10 Years LOST: 25TH AUGUST
And anyone would be better than [yawn] Steve Bicknell... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] it´s not oooooooooveeeeeeer
I had another listen to Ron Hardy playing this a few weeks back and I'm now sure it's his own re-edit of the Pettibone mix, probably splicing bits of the accapella in there too- It's not oveaaah, oveaah... :) I dunno about Derrick May. As it happens, I picked up a copy of the Salsoul 12 recently. It seems to me that the Ramshorn issue is just a straight reissue of the Salsoul, but with far less information. Unless there are two Ramshorn pressings, you've already got the Frankie Knuckles mixes. Now let me tell you something..., the tracks on it should be: A1. Shep Pettibone Vocal A2. Shep Pettibone Inst. A3. Accapella. B1. Frankie Knuckles Vocal B2. Frankie Knuckles Inst. Though are probably not listed as such. The Frankie Knuckles one starts out with that wicked string line (which is played by Larry Heard on the Mr Fingers 2 on Housetime, I discovered today, along with riffs from Problemes and There but for the Grace of God). And the instrumentals aren't merely instrumentals but whole new mixes. HTH, Jonny no it isnt... so, I got the shep pettibone remix from let no man put asunder on ramshorn... but this wasnt the version that Ron Hardy and Derrick May used to play... people told me, that it was the frankie knuckles mix that Ron and Derrick spun. Its a cut up piece with dirty beats. I know it is released on salsoul in 1983.. but cant find the frankie knuckles version... or is there another remix of it? did the frankie knuckles remix ever appear on a compilation or something? baby baby baby baby baby baby baby, ow yeah Cheers, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Scotland between 17th and 25th...
Anything doing? I'm having to go back home that week, causing me to miss the Juan Atkins, Farben and Background night (damn, damn, double damn). Apart from the 25th, when I intend to console myself at the football, I'm happy to travel beyond my north east Fife confines to Edinburgh or Glasgow. An earlier date on an Atkins, Farben and Background tour would be nice. One week later and I'd have got a derby _and_ that night into the diary... dammit. Jonny - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
