Re: [313] Adult Trans Am Thoughts
It was a lot of fun to see them live, and hear some new material. Does anyone know what song has really fast vocals and every verse end with Stop? That was a really nice track, and I didn't recognize it. Their music I believe you're talking about Don't You Stop. It's on the Misinterpreted 12 g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] new Drexciya LP!
jt, The 12 is definitely more pounding than a lot of recent Drexciyan releases. That said, it's still a bit on the experimental tip. Two of the tracks are pounding techno grooves: one with a twisted sort of Detroit feel (offkey synth stabs) and the other with harsh spacy sounds layered in. The third has more of an electrobass feel, but still retains that Drexciyan deepness (probably my favorite of the 3 tracks). Nothing really earcatching with any of the tracks, but that's pretty much Drexciya's style of late (as you say, different and less direct). I passed on the last Tresor release as well but feel that this one is a bit better (although definitely not Drex's best work). g On Thursday, June 20, 2002, at 12:55 PM, J. T. wrote: aghh you guys are giving such conflicting opinions i guess i'll just wait and hear for myself! raoul! wutsup! you got me anxious to hear it but then i dont think they're getting better better like you..not exactly worse, but different and less direct.. and alex! wutsup! you got me lowering my expectations, but then you are mentioning the last tresor stuff...which i thought was the absolute weakest! no basslines either, except for on about 3 tracks..(huh?) really meandering kinda nowhere stuff.. and then there's arne who's comparing it to drexciya 3 one of my favorites! i guess with these 3 crazily different opinions, it must be a classic! jt Start of message text nah, no basslines JT. I only have the 12, but I've listened to it a few times and it's nothing to write home about. The 12 and LP on Tresor are head and shoulders above this one, although I've not heard the full LP To be honest, I was a bit disappointed when I got it... 3 rhythm tracks really, no melody or bassline, at least one of which is abstract kind of electronica stuff. It's kind of closer to the Translusion thing than to the Drexciya thing on tresor.. J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 20/06/2002 16:06:04 To:313@hyperreal.org cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [313] new Drexciya LP! hey tom can you offer up a little more info, or anybody else who's got it? koert? what other drex project might it compare with? if it's not too hot i'm guessing it's continuing like that last album? (i hope there are basslines this time...) jt ...There's also a 12, 'Drexcyen R.E.S.T. Principle', too. Which I bought last week and is pretty average IMHO... Cheers, Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Financial Services Authority for investment business activities. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com _ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: [313] Concert last night: ADULT.
Perhaps they should've played Silent Property to make the point a bit stronger? Anyways, I think a lot of their attitude stems from disgust about the whole electroclash hype. Here's the article about it: http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_06.13.02/thebeat/adult.html I guess I can understand that they're afraid of a backlash against all artists painted with the electroclash marketing brush (though electroclash sucks just doesn't have a good ring to it), and that a number of artists are jumping on the bandwagon before they've developed their own sound (or can even do a live show), but I think the people who were pushing this sound before it became popular will continue to have a following even after everything plays out. Looking forward to hearing them play in TO tonight... g On Friday, June 14, 2002, at 03:56 PM, armin holzgethan wrote: subtle irony, i suspect [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I was there. The only thing that stood out to me, is before ADULT. played hand to phone Nicola said something like this is an old one from awhile back, a few of you might know this one Are they so popular now that all their fans are THAT new?? Dunno just thought that was weird. Their set was great though. Magas also rocked. Great schizophrenic dancing, that man. : ) Both of them could have played much longer, imho. I am definetly happy I came out, despite rumors that the redwings chaos would get in my way. :) -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] .edu To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 06/14/02 11:57 Subject: [313] Concert last night: ADULT. AM Last night, in Saint Andrew's in Detroit, Adult. performed while the Redwings took the Cup. The audience was pretty into it, despite all the hoopla outside in downstairs in the bar. Was anyone else there? I am curious to hear your impressions. Sorry if this is slightly off-topic. Magas played before Adult. Before Magas, this tall skinny guy in a blazer spun records. He looked kind of like the late Ian Curtis. I am also curious if anyone knows who he is. He played some good stuff, but he wasn't on the bill. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] italo-disco track ID's
Yeah, that's a great mix. It used to be on www.viewlexx.com, but it's gone now. A partial tracklisting was posted on the list a while back, but here you go: On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 09:06 AM, Alasdair Lyon wrote: Hi folks, can anyone ID the italo-ish tracks starting at these times in I-F's nyc 07-10-01 mp3 mix that is/was on mixnet? 0:15:54, (has a chorus going 'I will remember, you will remember forever') Gino Soccio - Remember 1:15:30, (just instrumental) End Games - First, Last, and Everything and the track right after it at: 1:19:15 (the verses start with vocals going 'you are the best in town, you take me up and down') Los Angeles TF - Magical Body g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Influencial radio shows
If that's your sentiment, then you'd probably relate to Solvent's track off the Disco Nouveau compilation called My Radio (it's an ode to an old radio show on CFNY in Toronto). That one brings me to tears. Though I didn't grow up listening to Mojo or CFNY (hey, I grew up in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada), I did listen to a couple of very influencial radio shows when I was a wee lad. When I could stay up for it, Night Flight from 12-4am on Friday and Saturday nights on CKER used to play hip-hop and RB. And I don't remember the name of it offhand, but there was a long running show on the university radio station (CJSR) from 2-4pm on Saturday afternoons which played hip-hop and electro (it was all the same back then). Also, if anyone has any mp3s of Mojo's shows, I'd love to hear them. g On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 12:25 AM, John Kohlstrand wrote: A final note: Anyone have an .mp3 of Mojo doing his MFA rap? (I'll bet someone does). I would die for that. The significance of the whole thing eluded me when I was 12 and taping songs off his show. Back then, radio seemed to suck less. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Influencial radio shows
Oh yeah, one more I forgot, Brave New Waves on CBC Radio (this one's been mentioned on the list before). So many all-night study sessions spent listening to that... On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 01:08 PM, :P wrote: radio free earth - Original Message - From: gord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Kohlstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: [313] Influencial radio shows If that's your sentiment, then you'd probably relate to Solvent's track off the Disco Nouveau compilation called My Radio (it's an ode to an old radio show on CFNY in Toronto). That one brings me to tears. Though I didn't grow up listening to Mojo or CFNY (hey, I grew up in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada), I did listen to a couple of very influencial radio shows when I was a wee lad. When I could stay up for it, Night Flight from 12-4am on Friday and Saturday nights on CKER used to play hip-hop and RB. And I don't remember the name of it offhand, but there was a long running show on the university radio station (CJSR) from 2-4pm on Saturday afternoons which played hip-hop and electro (it was all the same back then). Also, if anyone has any mp3s of Mojo's shows, I'd love to hear them. g On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 12:25 AM, John Kohlstrand wrote: A final note: Anyone have an .mp3 of Mojo doing his MFA rap? (I'll bet someone does). I would die for that. The significance of the whole thing eluded me when I was 12 and taping songs off his show. Back then, radio seemed to suck less. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: electro is trendy
I'm curious about that... any names to recommend ? Everyone needs to hear the following old electro tracks: Pretty Tony - Fix It In The Mix Freestyle - Jam The Box Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock Planet Patrol - Play At Your Own Risk Captain Rapp - Bad Times Garrett's Crew - Nasty Rock Twilight 22 - Electric Kingdom A few other classics off the top of my head: Afrika Baambaataa - Looking for the Perfect Beat Hashim - Al Naafiysh (The Soul) Sexual Harassment - I Need A Freak The Unknown DJ - 808 Beats Model 500 - No UFOs Egyptian Lover - Egypt, Egypt JJ Fad - Supersonic Electro Empire (www.electroempire.com) is a good site to check out audio clips and get some history on the artists. Though some of the artists listed there fall more into the category of hip-hop than electro... but I'll leave categorizations to those who stock shelves in record stores. ;) g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] [OT] Re: [313] submerge.panel and technology
Something to ponder: Perhaps a technology based culture isn't what every society needs or wants. While admitting that technological advancements in sanitation and medicine are universally beneficial, one could also argue that every family in the world having a computer and internet connection would simply lead to cultural homogenization and not necessarily mean a better life for everyone. Agreed that societies which are technologically advanced have a competitive advantage in the global economy, but should all cultures be forced into global capitalism and the technology race? g On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 12:21 PM, James Hurlbut wrote: I wasn't at the panel, but I disagree with the idea that technology is a root cause of the massive inequality of the world. I think technology is neutral, it is a tool whose use can be motivated by greed and profit or by social consciousness. The current tide of globalism from below, a historic network of independent media reporters, organizers, and activists exists today because of widespread deployment of communication technology throughout the first and and parts of the third world. Events like the World Social Forum at Port Alegro Brazil or the Seattle protests couldn't have been organized without technology. I'm not delusional, I know 3/5 of the world's population doesn't have clean sanitation let alone have used a telephone, but that's more of a reason we need to focus on getting technology in the hands of the disempowered rather than wishing it would go away. My two cents, back to techno. At 10:15 AM 6/5/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah this is a little late but. i was at the submerge panel saturday morning of demfit had a very pro technology flavor to it...imo that is rather problematic since technology has played a _large_ part in the rising levels of inequality both in the united states (the income of the poorest 20 percent of households has fallen in real terms by about 15 percent in the last 25 years) as well as in developing countries (increases in technology have led to globalization which has led to dramatic increases in inequity in these countries)..i understand that the panelists were not there to speak on such things but all of us have a responsiblity to understand our place in the world back to the music kathleen mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _,.., /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ jamie /| /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/,-' hurlbut / / /_/_/_/_/_/_/,-'/ / /_/_/_/_/_/_,:../ / |,' hurlbotics.com |/ ' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF sets that you where impressed with
Most impressive set award goes to Strand @ SOS on Saturday night. Yeah I know, all the hardcores were probably avoiding Motor like the plague, but since I couldn't stay for Monday (we really need to get Canadian and American holidays synced up), I wanted to catch the Aux Men and see what all the hype was about. Needless to say, Optic Nerve w/ Aux Men had one of the best theatric openings I'd ever seen (for a performance in a club), but good ole Cubase stole the show (literally). However, it was Strand that really delivered. Really smooth, funky, Detroit style techno/tech house in the 430 West vein done live. Absolute beauty. The small crowd there really appreciated it. Shame I didn't catch the UR afterparty that night though... I was hoping Scan 7 would bring the UR sound, but they were a no show. g PS. So was the Aux Men set on monday night?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF sets that you where impressed with
Damn... I've caught the UR afterparty for the past 2 years and both times were a blast. Suburban Knight always manages to give me a second wind after a long day at the festival. I didn't even know that there was a UR party on Saturday (I thought the only one was the cabaret on Friday). Guess I'll have to stay tuned to the underground a little better next year... ;) And I wasn't sure whether Scan 7 was a group or one guy. There were 3 people onstage when Scan 7 performed at DEMF the first year. I guess the guy working the gear was Scan 7. g On Wednesday, May 29, 2002, at 04:59 PM, Grammenos, Peter wrote: Shame I didn't catch the UR afterparty that night though... I was hoping Scan 7 would bring the UR sound, but they were a no show. g PG Scan 7 had some problems with his equipment and couldn't get it repaired in time. He took me by surprise when i saw him dancing next to me @ the UR after party w/ when he should have been over @ motor playing a live set. Cannot say enough about the UR party, it was the best after party of the year for me ;) -Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] exclusive records on ebay? (flamebait)
$100US for SID #1?! Man, I should sell my copy so I can make rent money this month. g On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, at 03:56 PM, Mad'R wrote: So it could be Smart Mad Mike doing this ? if not : I think S.I.D. should be sold outside S.I.D. Who's cutting in who's fingers now ? Mad'R - Original Message - From: Jwan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [313] exclusive records on ebay? here's my spin: If you beleive that we live in a somewhat free country, then people are free to do whatever they wish. So if someone wants to sell a promo/whitelabel on ebay,that's their buisness. as for the SID records we all know you can only purchase them in detroit, so it may be worth someone's time/money to buy one off of ebay, if they won't heading to the 313 anytime soon. Jwan Allen Technoir Records [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.technoiraudio.com (412) 681-1398 Free Game Guides! Complete walkthrus, secrets, hints and tips exclusively from IGN.com Play better today at http://guides.ign.com ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Bunker Records in North America
Hey all, I've been off the list for a while so forgive me if this has already been posted in my absence. --- dialectro is proud to present: The Bunker Records Dirty Brown World Tour The West-Coast Sound of Holland Featuring: Legowelt (LIVE) Orgue Electronique (LIVE) DJs: TLR (Mr. Clavio/Creme Organization) Schmerzlabor (Unit Moebius/Acidplanet) + the Electric Workers crew [Cryogenetic (Twilight 76), Drumatix (audio research), freakdrivr, axi-o-matic, and Chase23 (LIVE)], DJ Sabrina, and fillspace (LIVE ambient set) Featured alongside the music will be artwork depicting the dirty brown world. The artwork will be in various styles and mediums including paintings, grafitti, photography, and industrial and digital design. Saturday March 23, 2002 Zen Lounge (526 Queen St. W) Toronto, Ontario, Canada 19+, Art reception @ 8pm Tickets: $15 in advance, $20 @ the door Tickets available in Toronto at: Metropolis Records, Rotate This, Play de Record Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info and to get tickets outside of Toronto http://www.dialectro.com/ Supported by: Electric Workers, electromuse, and FAR out IDeAs --- Hope to see some of you there. g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Motor Rumors
On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 05:27 PM, Altitude wrote: On a side note, Hamtramck is WAY sketchy so if you are going to park far from the club do yourself a favor and dont walk alone, it seems that anytime anything happens within 15 blocks of the motor the club is blamed for it. I can second that. I've only been to Motor once for the Epoch party on NYE 2000, but that certainly was an experience (and not just because of the party). Catching a cab late at night in Hamtramck is near impossible. A bunch of us had to wait in the convenience store at the gas station there for almost 2 hours for a cab (at 4am). In addition, the gas station attendants said they had to lock the doors and turn off all the lights earlier that night because someone had fired a gunshot at the store. Even the cab we caught was sketchy (the cab driver was racist and didn't seem to notice red lights too well, someone had puked or _something_ in the back seat, and the wheel alignment on the cab was so out of whack that the driver had to keep the steering wheel turned 90 degrees in order to drive straight... no joke). g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] disco nouveau. detroit. december 7 2001
It's also quite popular in the Netherlands, Finland, and other areas of northern Europe. I know a lot of people dismiss it as being nostalgia music, but I feel that many artists are taking it in new directions and fusing old sounds with new ones in interesting ways. Some other artists who I feel have been pushing boundaries in the retro-electro subgenres (I'm partial to the terms electrodisco and electrowave myself) recently are: I-F Legowelt Orgue Electronique Op:l Bastards Le Syndicat Electronique G. D. Luxxe Ellen Allien Inform3r ... and I always thought mullets were more of a glam rock thing. ;) They're still quite out of fashion here in Canada (due to the past association with hockey thugs). g On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, at 07:51 PM, diana potts wrote: For those who who just can't seem to get enough of the eighties synth sound, I strongly suggest the album. It is cleanly produced and put together (the track selection flows quite well and tight) and I know alot of work went into it by Sam, Brendan G. and many other Ghostly crew members to keep it in the barries of their audio vision. The tracks by Adult., Perspects and DMX Krew are the ones that stand out strongest on the album IMHO. An entire weeks worth of events were recently dedicated to this sound deemed electroclash by the event's promoters in NYC. (I'm hoping that term doesn't stick btw). This li'l sub genre seems pretty strong in Germany and other parts of Europe as well. I've had the album for some time, and every time I listen to it I look forward to and ponder what kind of impact, if any, it will have on bringing the sound stronger/closer to the states-though from the number of mullets in nyc, it's already caught on quite well here;) Another artistic and fine job by Ghostly. my medicated dog is licking the carpet for no good reason, diana --- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friday December 7th, 2001 Ghostly International presents... chapter II: Disco Nouveau A Ghostly evening of electro, disco-punk and neo-new wave. Disco Nouveau is a pre-release event for Ghostly International's Tangent 2002: Disco Nouveau compilation featuring new music from Adult., DMX KREW, Ectomorph, I-F, Perspects, Solvent, Daniel Wang, Susumu Yokota and more. Avaliable February 19th, 2002. (CD/3x12) Featuring: ADULT. (live) (Detroit/Ersatz Audio) DMX Krew (UK/Rephlex, International Deejay Gigolos) Charles Manier (USA/Ghostly International) Plus special guest DJ: Ectomorph (Ann Arbor/IT/*67) The Labyrinth 1703 Cass Ave. Detroit, Michigan $15 10-4am 18+ www.ghostly.com/dn for flyer, directions, etc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] disco nouveau. detroit. december 7 2001
On Thursday, November 22, 2001, at 10:21 PM, james boylan wrote: Some other artists who I feel have been pushing boundaries in the retro-electro subgenres. Isn't that a contradiction? I quite like some of this stuff myself, but I wouldn't really say its pushing the boundaries. That's why I said those artists pushing the boundaries within those subgenres. It's debatable whether the subgenres themselves are pushing new boundaries (re. whether taking retro sounds and fusing them new ones is pushing boundaries). But I think that discussion had enough play in the DE9: Closer to the Edit thread. g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Bunker Records North American tour
Hi all, Seeing as there's been an amazing Dutch-Detroit connection happening over the past few years, I thought some people might be interested in this. I'm looking for promoters interested in bringing the Bunker Records tour to their city. The tour features Legowelt and Orgue Electronique (Live), alongside DJs TLR, and Schmerzlabor. You can get more info about the tour at: http://www.bunker-records.com/bk/info/booking.htm Hit me back private for more details if you're interested. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FinalScratch package price
On Thursday, November 1, 2001, at 12:07 PM, Jayson B. wrote: one of the most amazing things about the beos is its natural audio latency time. STANDARD this OS spits out audio at THREE MILLISECONDS. 3 ms. Think about that one more time. That means the ONLY time a dj is going to really noticed any latency is when he's doing some heavy scratching, and minute at best. When you look at windows with its 35ms on a great day latency, you see why this system needs to be run on be os. Anyone have any specs on Mac OS X? I've heard from propaganda (http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/audio.html) that audio throughput latency on OS X is as low as 1ms. To quote: The Core Audio HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) provides ultra low latency communication between applications and I/O devices that is measurably more efficient than previous solutions. M-Audio reports latency as low as 40 samples on Mac OS X from the company’s audio interfaces. That translates into 1ms throughput latency — and you get this performance in a full multi-channel environment. Unfortunately there are no pro audio apps out for Mac OS X to test this with. If this is true, I would think that it makes more sense to release Final Scratch on Mac OS X rather than BeOS... g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Detrechno
I have Jit The Anthem by Sole Tech on Detrechno. It's essentially the same as Chuck (except Jit is repeated over and over rather than Chuck). I bought it about 3 years ago and have only seen it once or twice since, but I've never seen Chuck around. I've always wanted to have both of them so that I could do a Jit-Chuck mix where the two tracks are cut back and forth. :) g On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 06:11 PM, M Elliot-Knight wrote: What's the scarcity of any Detrechno releases? Chuck on the Aux 88 Electro Boggie mix is brilliant. MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: we kan never be satisfied
Seems a bit suspect to me... (unless it's a member of A Number of Names who is capitalizing on a crate of sealed records they kept for posterity). g On Wednesday, September 26, 2001, at 06:55 AM, Andy Mitchell wrote: I was willing to pay well over $500 for this, but still lost it... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw- cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1465768387r=0t=0show Tutorial=0ed=1001200421indexURL=0rd=1 Maybe you should try again: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1468818081 Seems somebody's onto a good thing (ie. a box load of sealed Sharevari singles) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] we kan never be satisfied
Did you see them perform it live at DEMF this year? It was amazing... I loved it when there were about 25 people onstage doing live improv funk (is there any other way?) There was only a sparse crowd, most of whom didn't seem to realize what they were seeing (either that or they were too tired to show any enthusiasm -- it was relatively early in the day). I know I was getting my groove on. g On Sunday, September 23, 2001, at 09:18 AM, jim proffit wrote: I was willing to pay well over $500 for this, but still lost it... I should've used the strike at the last minute -method: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw- cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1465768387r=0t=0showTutorial=0ed=1001200421 indexURL=0rd=1 (if link's broken, copy paste the the rest) -Proffit _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313]online record stores
On Wednesday, September 19, 2001, at 10:07 AM, Danny Ward wrote: I would suggest trying www.planetxusa.com for any online record orders. They were one of the pioneers in online music shopping and have been around long enough to have built a solid reputation throughout the industry. I only talk highly of them because I personally, as well as a good majority of their shoppers have had nothing but solid performance by PX. Here's my experiences with Planet X: 1) Their policy for international orders (including Canada) is terrible. The first time I ordered from them, I had to do a wire transfer to their bank account in NY because they can't verify international VISA numbers (for some reason the extra 3 digits on the back of a VISA card isn't good enough). Thus the order cost me an extra $30 Canadian in wire transfer fees. 2) When I received my first order, a double album I bought contained two copies of the same record. I brought the issue up and their solution was to refund me for it on my next order. The only reason why I accepted this was because they were willing to let me use my ghastly international VISA number on the next order (so I wouldn't have to pay the absurd wire transfer fees). 3) When I placed my second order, I brought up the issue of the refund was told it would happen. It didn't (I was charged the full amount of the second order). 4) Also on my second order, I didn't receive notice of what records I would be receiving (just notice that a package had been shipped to me). When I tried to find out what records were shipped, they said, our system isn't quite set up for that - yet. 5) I can't navigate their website in Linux (my main operating system for software development) since they use Internet Exploder specific website features (and there's no version of Internet Exploder for Linux). Perhaps the last point is nitpicking, but it's important for me. Especially since Planet X seems to pride itself on independence (what's more independent than a hacker developed, DIY operating system?). Anyways, I just needed to vent about that. Needless to say, I won't be ordering from them again. g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] http://www.viewlexx.com
Forgive me if someone already IDed these (I missed a couple of postings when I was changing from digest mode to regular mode): 6. B.W.H. - Living Up 14. Pluton Humanoids - World Invasion 19. The Parallax Corporation - Theme From Cocadisco(?) (Viewlexx) I'm not sure if the title is correct on 19 since the album doesn't have a tracklisting on it. I enjoyed that mix so that much I cut it up into tracks and burnt it onto 2 CDs. :) g PS. For those into electrodisco and other new retro influenced sounds, have a listen to my newest mix at http://dialectro.com/axiomatic/ (the older mix is predominantly new old electro) On Saturday, September 8, 2001, at 07:16 AM, Mad'R wrote: Nice tracking list, thanks !! Ferenc rules bigtime He's very underrated here in Holland Although i'm not a electro freak , I do like some of the italo,disco and early housetracks he plays the Madonna retro is : Annie - The Greatest Hit if only someone could make a track listing of Recloose sets ;-) Mad'R Kent Williams: http://www.viewlexx.com Mike Taylor: thanks for this link! this is such a great mix, I would kill for a tracklisting. Few I recognised: -? (sounds like some Space or John Carpenter synth thing... Escape from New York soundtrack?) -Gino Soccio - Remember (Atlantic) -? -Mr.Flagio - Take a chance (Squish) (NOTE: a cover version of the Laswell original) -Amin Peck - Girl on me (Delirium) -? -Casco - Cybernatic love (House of music) -Lime - Angel eyes (Prism) -Charlie - Spacer woman (Mr.Disc organization) -? (the new Madonna-sampling retro tune...) -? (GOD DAMN this is familiar...what was it...?) -? (some quality house: can't let you go...) -? (another infamous 70's porn disco classic...can't remember) -? (space invaders from outer space...can't remember) -? (classic can't remember) -Cellophane - Gimme love (SPQR) -? (nice) -Los Angeles T.F. - Magical body (Il discotto) -? (destiny... some new Viewlexx thingy can't remember...) -Scotch - Penquins' invasion (American disc) (NOTE: vocal version is another (later)version of this) -? -? (that INFAMOUS classic tune they played to death on Hotmix-5 shows...) Proffit _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Gigolo: Munich To Detroit, Zombie, Dave Clarke
I just saw Hell play here in Toronto, and I can say that while he dropped a few nice tracks and his mixing was tight, I found it rather boring. I was actually pretty disapointed. His set really lacked energy and direction, IMHO. Though I'm interested in hearing his set at FUSE to see how it compares. And Zombie Nation is a huge rave/club anthem in Europe. While it's not strictly in the trance vein, it has that very catchy synth line and euro-disco feel, so I can see why it's so big over there (and barely known here in North America). Dave Clarke's justifcation in Jockey Slut for why he remixed it is a good laugh. For someone with such good taste in electro, he's a real cheeseball. Not that he ever plays electro when he DJs live... g Cyclone Wehner sez: They have had a few anomalies of late - eg Chance The Sunkids garage diamonds. There's a big article on Zomie Nation in Jockey Slut (Oct) with their millionth (or sumthin') Dave Clarke article. For a man with such a profound distaste for journalists/the media he does a lot. Everyone (I know with taste) is raving about the new DJ Hell Fuse mix-CD. He is among my favourite DJs. Check it out. I thought Central station only licenced hi-nrg rave/house hits?? What the hell is going on? Peace, Patrick, Southern Outpost. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Gigolo: Munich To Detroit, Zombie, Dave Clarke
Cyclone Wehner sez: I just saw Hell play here in Toronto, and I can say that while he dropped a few nice tracks and his mixing was tight, I found it rather boring. I was actually pretty disapointed. His set really lacked energy and direction, IMHO. Though I'm interested in hearing his set at FUSE to see how it compares. It was probably the crowd - what were they like? I rate him very highly. Was he playing more straight-up techno or the gigolo stylee weird electro/disco stuff? The latter is where his heart is at I think now. It was a cheesy club with lots of people coming up just as I was getting bored. Most of the people didn't have a clue who Hell was... His set was predominantly straight-up techno, though he started with some good electro and dropped one really bassy, f*cked-up techno track in the middle of his set that I enjoyed. No weird electro/disco like I was expecting. Towards the end of his set, he just faded out the track he was playing and put on a jazzy, vocal-house track. Then he proceeded to mix right back into the bland techno again. Very strange. g
Re: [313] Gigolo: Munich To Detroit
Roland van Oorschot sez: At 10:05 10/28/2000 +0200, you wrote: yeah it has been played a lot over here (but i think it's a year or two old or something?). And it even gets tastier: the melody is from 1984. The whole track is ripped from an old Commodore 64 game-tune from the game Lazy Jones. Hey, what song is it in the game? I picked up the SID file from http://www.c64gg.com/l3.html but I can't seem to find a tune from the game that sounds like Zombie Nation. I do recognize song 7 in the SID as being Blondie(?) though... Ahh, the old C64 SID sound is bringing me too much nostalgia (lo-hi lo-hi lo-hi lo-hi...). g
Sets on undergroundcommittee.com (was Re: DJ Rolando's set)
Just browsed the sets on undergroundcommittee.com and I'm really interested in hearing them. One problem however... I don't use MS Windows. Are there any plans to generate Real Audio versions of those sets so that users of other operating systems can listen to them? g Michael Kim sez: WOW unbelievable. very, very consistent with my taste in music... is there any other mix cd's he's done besides the Aztec Mystic? Mike _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] new Claude Young album
Yeah, just listened to it yesterday. Classic Detroit techno soundscapes and rhythms. Some minimal tracks and some a bit more pounding. Not groundbreaking, but a good solid sound nonetheless. g Andrew Duke sez: anybody heard this yet? Claude Young presents: / Patterns The Album (dark minimalist techno tracks grouped with eerie dark soundscapes) Djax 2x12 -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New Release
yeah, been digging around the Clone site recently and in addition to having some killer electro on their label (and affiliate labels), they also have some amazing stuff in their record shop. unfortunately they seem rather backed up at the moment because they haven't responded yet to the order I sent them last Friday. biting my nails... g On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, sloes wrote: from the Clone mailinglist: Finally, the summer is over, and we're releasing new music again. The catalog of the online shop was also updated. Check out all these new releases, visit our site www.clone.nl E-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or call us for distribution ++31(0)10 4369506 Also other good news. Grammar, a label we distribute has it's own site, please check it out at www.grammar.nl. Oh, and if you're looking for great music online, listen to what hotmix has put online: http://www.hotmix.nl/mixnet And now, without further ado, the releases: New Releases Clone, Viewlexx. Vcd/13 Viewlexx 12/11 (Tracklisting etc. on www.hotmix.nl) I-f /Parallax corp. -Coca disco ll (city of destiny) Another limited pre-release taken from the forth coming Parallax corp. Album by I-f and his partner Intergallactic Gary . A 5 track dance floor burner ,with some exclusive tracks wich won't appear on the album. A unique house meets disco meets electro style wich perfectly fits in every great saturdaynight out. This may be one of those records wich set a trend (remember that I-f have had such impakt before with a whole bunch of his records and also with his unique dj style!!). We try to give everyone his share, but preorders might help to give you the quantities you need! (Check www.hotmix.nl for realaudio) Clone , C#18 -Duplex -ep4 Not a new artist but a change of sound for the new Clone ep by Duplex. Duplex delivers some fresh (detroit influenced) techno and house flavours on their 4th ep. Coming from a background from harder techno in Rotterdam (They produced music on labels such as X-trax and Hithouse together with people as Ferry Corsten and Hole in One in the '90s), they now explore the softer deeper shades of techno with 4 smooth bass driven tracks with nice floating layers of the most beautyfull sounds remembering us of the early days of Detroit techno. For everyone who missed Duplex's Ep3 (wich has been rated by people such as Laurent Garnier, Mr C., Michel de Hey and others) this is another change to get some different flavours from Rotterdam ! (check www.clone.nl for realaudio files) Clone , C#19 - Perspects - Hooverculture ep. After Adult.'s New phonies ep we are proud to present the other half of Detroit's Le Car . Perspects present his new 10 project as cellebration of the '80s culture wich has made many of us what we are today. A 4 track ep with electro pop, enjoying and cellebrating the good things from those days of doom and no hope. Sometimes it makes you wonder what kept us from going under... Well ,one of those things ,what keeps us going is music!! Perspects gives you another reason to stay alive . CLONE DISTRIBUTION WELCOMES : EAT THIS RECORDS , GROUNDZERO AND TECHNOTOURIST AS NEW WORLDWIDE EXCLUSIVE LABELS A small introduction for these new exclusive labels! First of all the Eat this label known for their Raginakudo project with Legowelt, EOG ,Funckarma ,Swap, Gimmick ao. We start with a new series of limited 10s and hopefully a repress of their backcatalogue soon. Then we welcome 2 new labels from Rotterdam (yes...another two new labels!!) ;Groundzero and Technotourist. Two labels (closely connected to each other) wich will cellebrate the exictense of techno music in it purest form. Pure music made for the love of it ranging from deep floating tracks to more dancefloor orientated techno. Groundzero and Technotourist will release music influenced by various styles and artists such as Basic channel, Derrick May , Kevin Saunderson , B12 , Carl Craig, John Tejada, Robert Hood , Moodyman etc. to give an idea of their coming releases. Technotourist 001 (TT001) The Technotourists - Follow the beat Mastered at Detroits NSC to give this piece of quality techno extra flavour for the Detroit fetishists. 4 Beautyfull tracks by this former Eevolute artist. Funky crispy percusion leading the nice strings with floating melodies. Each track is a great piece of techno music in the same vein as Chris Gray and John Tejada are taking their productions lately... Allready getting great responce among various techno jocks and magazines. A must have Groundzero 001 (GZ 001) The Moderator - In transit Another former Eevolute artist with a great 4 track ep. 2 driving techno tracks going steady over
Re: [313] Le Car - Autiobiography....??
Even better, go to the source... http://www.ersatzaudio.com/html/disco/ezcd13.html It's a best-of compilation that includes a few rareities. I'm pretty sure it's unmixed, but I haven't heard it all the way through, so don't hold me to that statement. :) g On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Diana Potts wrote: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=A498359 OR. 1.http://www.allmusic.com 2.Type in 'Le Car' in artist and select the Auto-biography CD diana From: Peter T. Bense [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Le Car - Autiobiography?? Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 00:55:03 -0400 /de-lurk mode=on Yeah guys, I know its been awhile since I posted but school's kept me real busy. ;o) Saw this one on the new-release lists and was wondering if anyone out there has had a chance to check it out yet. It says 23 tracks according to the Bent Crayon list and I was wondering if anyone know if it was mixed/unmixed or had opinions on the music? Thanks /Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] LAST MIN ANNOUNCEMENT: MISS KITTIN THE HACKER LIVE
Just picked up melodies en sous-sol the other day... some nice, dark, moody hard techno and electro. Time and Space is a beautiful track and will definately be seeing some play on my turntables. I haven't heard a lot from Perspects (Ian Clark), but what I have heard I've really enjoyed. Desire Efficiency... what more do I have to say? Makes me wish I lived in the D... anyone know if these artists will be making their way to Toronto in the near future? A must see for anyone following electro these days... g On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Kent williams wrote: I saw the Hacker (minus Kittin) in Paris and you really ought to get out and represent for Grenoble! And check out Good Life Records in general for proof that there's more to France than filter disco! Very high quality label, nice guys, and deserving your support! kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=chaircrusher -- mix On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Derek wrote: Thought this may be of interest to a good bunch of you. derek. - Wednesday, September 13th @ Motor in Hamtramck Live Performances by: Miss Kittin The Hacker (International DJ Gigolo's) Perspects (Ersatz Audio) Maersk (Maersk Music/Quadrant) along with: DJ Carlos Souffront Showtime: 10 pm Cost: $7 Motor 3515 Caniff Hamtramck, MI 313-369-0090 www.motordetroit.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SF techno events?
I'll keep this short since it's offtopic... I'm in the bay area this weekend with nothing to do and was wondering if anyone can recommend anything? g
Re: [313] Underground OT (was Re: [313] Pooh-blahs)
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not necessarily my rebuttal, but an interesting one, from Jeremy Gilbert and Ewan Pearson quoted without permission from Discographies - Dance Music, Culture, and the Politics of Sound: The only reason for staying underground is that in relation to dominant structures of power, you are weak. To celebrate that weakness rather than to try to overcome it is to concede social authority to those dominant discourses. It is, in fact, to _choose_ too remain in a subordinate position and to condemn others to a similar position. I find this statement to be rather naive and reductionist in a number of ways. Firstly, what if you don't support the dominant structures of power and the political stance you impose upon yourself by working together with them? This has nothing to do with being weak or strong, and everything to do with supporting and influencing change. By staying underground, you are making a statement that you have no interest in supporting these structures. This is done in hopes that reasonable people will recognize this and be influenced by it (thus affecting change). Secondly, it assumes that everyone is interested in power and that people are only either in a subordinate or dominant position (depending on the power they wield). While to a certain extent it is true that the desire to affect change is a struggle for power, it is certainly not individual power that is desired (this is often why those wanting to affect change don't reveal their identity or make public apperances). It is a struggle for power of reason. To open people's minds to something they might not have thought about, not fully understood, or not cared about before. One certainly does not gain individual power by supporting a cause greater than themself, nor are they in a dominant (or subordinate) position by making lifestyle decisions to help affect change (namely staying underground and often poor because of it). As for things said about not making a website and not telling anyone about your music in order to keep it underground... that's just missing the point entirely. Underground is about a state of mind, not crawling under a rock. Anyone who uses the term underground in an elitist, exclusionary way doesn't get it. g
[313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, JARED WILSON wrote: I agree, out side of the new plus 8 track (Electric Deluxe) I have not been to impressed with Detroit releases. I would say that the most avant techno of late has come from the likes of Marco Carola, Gaeton Parisio, and even some Adam Beyer releases (specifically the release on Conform Lost and Found??). And even the previously mentioned music is still just a refined techno. I think Detroit has become stagnant, but do not get me wrong this is not a negative view. I think the next few years will be very exciting for Detroit music and look forward to some of the next generation producers. Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. I'd disagree to some extent. Although maybe not as prolific as it has been for the majority of the past two decades, there are still some good sounds coming out of Detroit. I have been enjoying a lot of the Ersatz Audio stuff of late (it just pulls my retro industrial/new wave heartstrings). :) Perspects - Desire Efficiency is a beautiful track. Although not exactly avant garde (what truly is?), it does add a modern feel to an old sound. UR also has some nice tracks in their S.I.D. series (which includes everything from minimal techno to classic electro). And although I'm not a huge ghetto-tech fan (I did enjoy Disco D's I.R.S on Contaminated), Detroit is definately at the center of it. And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so soon after DEMF!? ;P I've mainly been focusing lately on collecting classic tracks that I consider to be groundbreaking, but as for recent techno (within the last couple of years) that I've considered to be avant garde, it would have to be the stuff coming from Neil Landstrumm, Christian Vogel, Daze Maxim, Justin Berkovi, and related artists. just my .02 g
Re: [313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20)
On 8 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself wondering where you guys are coming from... It seems your opinions regarding the state of music from Detroit is superficial at best...Where would your avant-guarde dj's be without someone snip Kenny Dixon jrever heard of him? Hey I'll be the first to admit that I have my head in the sand when it comes to house music, jazzy house, and related producers. Nor do I think that techno producers are any more avant garde than house music producers. I'm sure there's a lot of interesting house, soul, funk, rb, etc. coming out of Detroit these days too. It's unfortunate, but I find that whatever style of music you are into tends to become the center of your universe. I was just talking about Detroit music from a techno perspective. That's why I titled my reply Detroit techno/bread n' butter (bread n' butter because Detroit techno is what this list is based around, not implying that techno is the bread n' butter of Detroit music). Somehow the techno was dropped from that title. As for influences/racial issues, that's a whole new ball of wax (one which is probably best discussed elsewhere, and certainly won't be resolved by debating on a mailing list). Just speaking about music though, I find that it's good to know the roots, but one shouldn't mistake the roots for the tree. g
