Re: Amp Fiddler album
this is amazing thanks for the heads up, never even knew about this release! https://linktr.ee/dancurtinmusic From: kent williams Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 3:24 To: Tristan Watkins Cc: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: Amp Fiddler album For me there's something that I hear as Detroit in music: it's honest and openly emotional, it makes a direct appeal to your senses and your heart. Marvin Gaye, Moodymann, Amp Fiddler are embedded in a tradition. Make something excellent and if you can't quite do that, make people feel something. On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 1:12 PM Tristan Watkins wrote: > > I'm don't think I mentioned this here when Amp Fiddler passed, but I recently > got this album, The One, with Will Sessions. Just had it on again. Some of > his best music here. Seven Mile is especially attention grabbing (Moodymann > shared a clip of this track on Instagram, which is how I found out I'd slept > on this), but the whole album is really nice. > https://willsessions.bandcamp.com/album/the-one > > RIP
Re: Amp Fiddler album
I get a lot of P-Funk from it as well. I think he played with them at one point maybe? As you say, lots of obvious nods to Motown, but seamlesslessly blended with what is very recognisably “him”. On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 at 02:24, kent williams wrote: > "The One" is such a fantastic representation of Detroit music. Detroit > music attracted me by the way that unique musical environment > produces such original, heartfelt music. The very conscious use of > 1970s musical tropes in a new century to say something new. And > there's an unbroken chain going back to the 1950s and beyond. People > who were involved with Motown were still around as guys like Amp came > along. > > For me there's something that I hear as Detroit in music: it's honest > and openly emotional, it makes a direct appeal to your senses and your > heart. Marvin Gaye, Moodymann, Amp Fiddler are embedded in a > tradition. Make something excellent and if you can't quite do that, > make people feel something. > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 1:12 PM Tristan Watkins > wrote: > > > > I'm don't think I mentioned this here when Amp Fiddler passed, but I > recently got this album, The One, with Will Sessions. Just had it on again. > Some of his best music here. Seven Mile is especially attention grabbing > (Moodymann shared a clip of this track on Instagram, which is how I found > out I'd slept on this), but the whole album is really nice. > https://willsessions.bandcamp.com/album/the-one > > > > RIP >
Re: Amp Fiddler album
"The One" is such a fantastic representation of Detroit music. Detroit music attracted me by the way that unique musical environment produces such original, heartfelt music. The very conscious use of 1970s musical tropes in a new century to say something new. And there's an unbroken chain going back to the 1950s and beyond. People who were involved with Motown were still around as guys like Amp came along. For me there's something that I hear as Detroit in music: it's honest and openly emotional, it makes a direct appeal to your senses and your heart. Marvin Gaye, Moodymann, Amp Fiddler are embedded in a tradition. Make something excellent and if you can't quite do that, make people feel something. On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 1:12 PM Tristan Watkins wrote: > > I'm don't think I mentioned this here when Amp Fiddler passed, but I recently > got this album, The One, with Will Sessions. Just had it on again. Some of > his best music here. Seven Mile is especially attention grabbing (Moodymann > shared a clip of this track on Instagram, which is how I found out I'd slept > on this), but the whole album is really nice. > https://willsessions.bandcamp.com/album/the-one > > RIP
Amp Fiddler album
I'm don't think I mentioned this here when Amp Fiddler passed, but I recently got this album, The One, with Will Sessions. Just had it on again. Some of his best music here. Seven Mile is especially attention grabbing (Moodymann shared a clip of this track on Instagram, which is how I found out I'd slept on this), but the whole album is really nice. https://willsessions.bandcamp.com/album/the-one RIP
Re: Amp Fiddler died.
I had the pleasure of meeting Amp in 2004 at Movement. He did a voiceover for my college radio show back then. Real friendly nice guy and extremely talented. On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 4:35 AM kent williams wrote: > In thinking about Amp, I forgot about how much he did to help Dilla when > he was just a kid. Dilla was a talent that would have found a way without > Amp, but we're all lucky Dilla had such a mentor. Detroit might not be > unique in how its network of mentoring & influence works but the results > have been staggering over the years. And it's a web that connects everyone > alive & working today back to Detroit's amazing past. > > On Monday, December 18, 2023, the Beauty and Belief Society < > thequietoverh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Words. >> RIP. >> >> Long time no hear kent. >> >> Def made his impact on some Dilla shit off the top, and if im thinking >> correctly he's prob the guy who ended up lugging an obnoxiously heavy old >> ass synth out just to record Over the Breaks. >> >> Lots of 313 folks like that during the same era. No disrespect. Just >> wanna recogonize real for being real. >> >> Like... on some Mike Huckaby shit. >> >> For real I'm pretty sure I have a Prince Po 12" somewhere burnin' up for >> a spin right now. >> >> Any Bling 47 fans out there? >> >> Don't mind me. I have no idea what I'm talkimbout >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 9:43 PM kent williams >> wrote: >> >>> Amp was singular. I had a press pass the year he played the main stage >>> at DEMF so I watched him from close up, checking his hands on the keys >>> and how he interacted with thousands of people like they were friends >>> on his couch. I drove into Chicago to see him again a few months >>> later, and he was the same, but different. In both contexts, he read >>> the room and modulated his performance for the space and audience. >>> >>> When I think of comparisons, Prince, Stevie Wonder, D'Angelo all come >>> to mind. But it's more like they're all drinking from the same well, >>> not that Amp was like them, in any imitative way. He was someone who >>> you can identify from just a few notes. >>> >>> And it always seemed effortless, weightless. The funk flowed out of >>> him like his breath. That's how you can tell that someone is an >>> artist - they've mastered the mechanical demands of their music, to >>> where they don't have to think about playing. They're just there in >>> the music, and their goal is emotion and communication. The music is >>> a seamless part of themselves they can share. >>> >>> When I think of Amp that's what I think of: his personality, his >>> humor, his emotional connection. I will miss him a lot. >>> >>
Re: Amp Fiddler died.
In thinking about Amp, I forgot about how much he did to help Dilla when he was just a kid. Dilla was a talent that would have found a way without Amp, but we're all lucky Dilla had such a mentor. Detroit might not be unique in how its network of mentoring & influence works but the results have been staggering over the years. And it's a web that connects everyone alive & working today back to Detroit's amazing past. On Monday, December 18, 2023, the Beauty and Belief Society < thequietoverh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Words. > RIP. > > Long time no hear kent. > > Def made his impact on some Dilla shit off the top, and if im thinking > correctly he's prob the guy who ended up lugging an obnoxiously heavy old > ass synth out just to record Over the Breaks. > > Lots of 313 folks like that during the same era. No disrespect. Just wanna > recogonize real for being real. > > Like... on some Mike Huckaby shit. > > For real I'm pretty sure I have a Prince Po 12" somewhere burnin' up for a > spin right now. > > Any Bling 47 fans out there? > > Don't mind me. I have no idea what I'm talkimbout > > > > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 9:43 PM kent williams > wrote: > >> Amp was singular. I had a press pass the year he played the main stage >> at DEMF so I watched him from close up, checking his hands on the keys >> and how he interacted with thousands of people like they were friends >> on his couch. I drove into Chicago to see him again a few months >> later, and he was the same, but different. In both contexts, he read >> the room and modulated his performance for the space and audience. >> >> When I think of comparisons, Prince, Stevie Wonder, D'Angelo all come >> to mind. But it's more like they're all drinking from the same well, >> not that Amp was like them, in any imitative way. He was someone who >> you can identify from just a few notes. >> >> And it always seemed effortless, weightless. The funk flowed out of >> him like his breath. That's how you can tell that someone is an >> artist - they've mastered the mechanical demands of their music, to >> where they don't have to think about playing. They're just there in >> the music, and their goal is emotion and communication. The music is >> a seamless part of themselves they can share. >> >> When I think of Amp that's what I think of: his personality, his >> humor, his emotional connection. I will miss him a lot. >> >
Re: Amp Fiddler died.
Words. RIP. Long time no hear kent. Def made his impact on some Dilla shit off the top, and if im thinking correctly he's prob the guy who ended up lugging an obnoxiously heavy old ass synth out just to record Over the Breaks. Lots of 313 folks like that during the same era. No disrespect. Just wanna recogonize real for being real. Like... on some Mike Huckaby shit. For real I'm pretty sure I have a Prince Po 12" somewhere burnin' up for a spin right now. Any Bling 47 fans out there? Don't mind me. I have no idea what I'm talkimbout On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 9:43 PM kent williams wrote: > Amp was singular. I had a press pass the year he played the main stage > at DEMF so I watched him from close up, checking his hands on the keys > and how he interacted with thousands of people like they were friends > on his couch. I drove into Chicago to see him again a few months > later, and he was the same, but different. In both contexts, he read > the room and modulated his performance for the space and audience. > > When I think of comparisons, Prince, Stevie Wonder, D'Angelo all come > to mind. But it's more like they're all drinking from the same well, > not that Amp was like them, in any imitative way. He was someone who > you can identify from just a few notes. > > And it always seemed effortless, weightless. The funk flowed out of > him like his breath. That's how you can tell that someone is an > artist - they've mastered the mechanical demands of their music, to > where they don't have to think about playing. They're just there in > the music, and their goal is emotion and communication. The music is > a seamless part of themselves they can share. > > When I think of Amp that's what I think of: his personality, his > humor, his emotional connection. I will miss him a lot. >
Amp Fiddler died.
Amp was singular. I had a press pass the year he played the main stage at DEMF so I watched him from close up, checking his hands on the keys and how he interacted with thousands of people like they were friends on his couch. I drove into Chicago to see him again a few months later, and he was the same, but different. In both contexts, he read the room and modulated his performance for the space and audience. When I think of comparisons, Prince, Stevie Wonder, D'Angelo all come to mind. But it's more like they're all drinking from the same well, not that Amp was like them, in any imitative way. He was someone who you can identify from just a few notes. And it always seemed effortless, weightless. The funk flowed out of him like his breath. That's how you can tell that someone is an artist - they've mastered the mechanical demands of their music, to where they don't have to think about playing. They're just there in the music, and their goal is emotion and communication. The music is a seamless part of themselves they can share. When I think of Amp that's what I think of: his personality, his humor, his emotional connection. I will miss him a lot.
Re: Confirm Amp Fiddler deceased?
does pitchfork + stereogum work ? and detroit news? https://pitchfork.com/news/amp-fiddler-storied-detroit-artist-dies-at-65/ https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/12/18/amp-fiddler-influential-detroit-funk-musician-dies-at-65/71957442007/ https://www.stereogum.com/2245901/amp-fiddler-dead-at-65/news/
Re: Confirm Amp Fiddler deceased?
His own Facebook page confirmed it here: https://www.facebook.com/AmpFiddlerMotorCity/posts/pfbid02fbeGX1GJAZgHeJNidhJsn9sqPuCVpxX5bbJuDEd2YNNQHdWu8ZuvM9MX5NYLy8h6l On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 1:51 PM Thorin Teague wrote: > > Seeing a lot of goodbyes and Lamentations on my Facebook feed today. I'm > assuming it's legit, can somebody definitively confirm that Amp Fiddler has > passed?
Confirm Amp Fiddler deceased?
Seeing a lot of goodbyes and Lamentations on my Facebook feed today. I'm assuming it's legit, can somebody definitively confirm that Amp Fiddler has passed?
Amp Fiddler
Hey all, I thought this might be of interest: "We humbly request your offerings & donations to support Detroit's own international ambassador of funk, soul & electronic music, keyboardist, record producer, Afro-futurist, AMP FIDDLER. After many months in the hospital, and now at home recuperating from surgery in August, Amp needs our resources to support his continued healing as he journeys back to the stage. Many have asked what is needed, or how they can assist. Your loving generosity is appreciated at this time." https://gofund.me/c38d8a97
(313) amp fiddler boston tonight
Nobody told me and I didn't find out until today so I probably won't be there, and I don't even know if there are any Boston cats on this list anymore, but Amp Fiddler is playing at the Middle East tonight for 12 bucks. -- matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org AIM: mkbatwerk
(313) Amp Fiddler video
this is some crazy weird animation sh*t. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_7t60Y1NDWQ
(313) Amp Fiddler article in The Independent
I hate to interrupt all the 313techknow talk *cough* but I found this article in today's Independent: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2201627.ece - Greg
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler article in The Independent
I've never understood why Amp isn't a huge star in the US. I've played Waltz of the Ghetto Fly to hip hop MCs, little kids, my mom, co-workers at the University, and everyone loves Amp. Good music makes friends everywhere it's heard; I don't believe that listeners are prejudiced against music just because it hasn't been marketed to them. I think that people just don't get to hear a lot of things they might like. On 2/1/07, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to interrupt all the 313techknow talk *cough* but I found this article in today's Independent: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2201627.ece - Greg
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler article in The Independent
Datum: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:03:10 -0600 Von: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: 313@hyperreal.org I think that people just don't get to hear a lot of things they might like. so true. word is b... c* -- Feel free - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail?ac=OM.GX.GX003K11711T4781a
(313) (A little OT) Re: (313) Amp Fiddler article in The Independent
Good music makes friends everywhere it's heard; I don't believe that listeners are prejudiced against music just because it hasn't been marketed to them. I think that people just don't get to hear a lot of things they might like. I may be going off on a tangent here... I definitely agree with your last statement. But if only it was as simple as people being prejudiced (or not) because something has *not* been marketed to them... A couple of weeks back, when DJ Drama got busted by the RIAA I forwarded to some of the guys at work. I got a reply along the lines of The death of hip-hop wouldn't be so bad. All that macho bullsh!t and guns and sh!t It was clear that this was prejudice against the entire genre because of the way a certain aspect of hip-hop *has* been marketed by the media. So, after my initial reaction (irritation), I resolved to try and do some edutaining - but that is another story. I am glad I got that off my chest :) Peace, N
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler article in The Independent
On 2/1/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never understood why Amp isn't a huge star in the US. I've played Waltz of the Ghetto Fly to hip hop MCs, little kids, my mom, co-workers at the University, and everyone loves Amp. Good music makes friends everywhere it's heard; I don't believe that listeners are prejudiced against music just because it hasn't been marketed to them. I think that people just don't get to hear a lot of things they might like. we stocked many copies of waltz of the ghetto fly at the shop i work at in pittsburgh, because of this he has a pretty strong decently sized following here despite being almost completely unknown outside of the people who got it from us. someone was even trying to bring him here to play live, but got the run around from his agent. too bad. tom
Re: (313) (A little OT) Re: (313) Amp Fiddler article in The Independent
Actually even a lot of the more 'credible' MCs take that line to an extent - but they're talking about commercial hip-hop. Lupe Fiasco says something similar. Nas' album takes that view as its theme. Probably the most interesting thing of late is the popularity of regional styles - hypy, Baltimore house, baile funk, etc - globally which DJs like Low Budget and Disco D (RIP) have credited to the fact that people are resisting the marketed urban music of majors, where here Australian hip-hop, once despised, is massive. I gotta admit hip- hop hasn't been the same since 50 Cent came on the scene - he certainly ain't nothing on 'Pac! The whole G Unit stable is wack. I think the negativity within hip-hop is a phase and it will emerge stronger, more fertile. Electronic music has experienced the same cycle. A couple of weeks back, when DJ Drama got busted by the RIAA I forwarded to some of the guys at work. I got a reply along the lines of The death of hip-hop wouldn't be so bad. All that macho bullsh!t and guns and sh!t It was clear that this was prejudice against the entire genre because of the way a certain aspect of hip-hop *has* been marketed by the media.
(313) Amp Fiddler in the D
Free this Sunday evening at 10:15 pm - part of the yearly Concert of Colors @ the Max M. Fisher Music Center on Woodward (moved from Shane Park - ?) http://www.accesscommunity.org/coc/Schedule.html
Re: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
- Original Message - From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell I can't guarantee the authenticity of the Amp Fiddler claim as it just came through from a Tortured Soul email and isn't listed on the Neighbourhood site or myspace page, but I'll be there anyway. Tickets available at Ticket web http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user?query=searchregion=xxxcategory=miscsearch=osunlade and as of a couple of hours ago also on the door. Quite an odd night. Really lucky we got tickets because the pay-on-the-door queue was 100s deep by 8:30 and they didn't start letting people in until 9:00 (when pay on the door prices magically jumped in price... Hmmm). It was my first time at Neighbourhood. It's got two massive Funktion 1 stacks and some tinier Funktion 1s scattered beyond the dancefloor. Bacardi crap was everywhere - on a projector the whole show, drink specials, you name it. It felt like DEMF in more than one way. Osunlade was hit and miss. After three jam songs where the saxophonist went totally spastic (not in a bad way - just a bit overwhelming to kick things off; oh, and he was way too loud), Osunlade plucked Nadirah Shakoor from the front of the crowd and they did a three-song medley with 'Tree of Life' in the middle of it. She's ridiculously cute. Really short with a massive afro. One helluva voice too. After that it kinda meandered between slow and mid-tempo jam songs (presumably all from the new album, which I haven't properly heard yet). Actually there was one track near the end when he pulled Nadirah Shakoor back on stage and had her join this Parisian woman who's name I didn't catch. That tune was pretty sweet, and at a nice housey tempo. To conclude he told us he was going to sit down on stage with the two ladies and play one last song. It was a cover of Radiohead's 'Everything in it's right place'. WTF!?!?!!? I'm not sure if he was singing it or not (he had been singing backing vocals and one duet throughout the show, showing pretty wide range) but if it was him, his voice really trasformed. That was completely unexpected... Kinda cool. Reeealy weird. After about 45 minutes Tortured Soul came on with Amp Fiddler on keys. I can't recall if Tortured Soul is usually a three-piece where two of them play just bass and drums, but that's what it was last night. The first song and part of the second were slightly marred by feedback from Amp Fiddler's Nord Electro through a microphone, which may or may not have explained why he wasn't singing. One thing I got a huge kick out of was seeing Amp Fiddler in the Tortured Soul Blues Brothers-style uniform, except he was wearing black track suit bottoms instead of the usual black slacks. I'll post a couple of camera phone pics later if anyone wants to see (actually, there will probably be 19 million online later today, because there were stupid amounts of very invasive photgraphers on-hand). Anyway... when they finally got over the sound problems they rocked it. The singing was excellent throughout, and you could see Amp Fiddler singing along without a mic, just because he was feeling it. Towards the end he had a massive solo on two Nords that was seriously sick. He was chopping up these really tight arpegiated distorted rhodes keys. It was sick, probably the highlight of the night. They weren't on for long enough. Then there was about an hour wait on a crowded dancefloor for Pharell. The crowd (it must be said) by this point had shown how horrible they were (although for most of the first two acts they'd just been fairly annoying). So many robots (in the Kool Keith sense), but I guess this is West End clubbing... 90% of them were definitely there just to see Pharell. This was fairly excruciating. The DJ pulled out all sorts of Tribe, De La, KRS, Lords of the Underground (big party hip hop classics) in order to keep the crowd at bay. There were a number of times it felt like it could kick off, and far too many people trying to do MTV spring break grinding and genero-dancing on a dancefloor with no space. Annoying... So when Pharell finally came on and played a bunch of generic, bland hip hop, with none of the character of his better work, it was pretty damned disappointing. I certainly wouldn't recommend him to anyone if he can't pull off something better on a night like this. We stuck around until he played 'Frontin' (after waiting that long, we couldn't really leave before it) but it lasted probably less than 2 minutes, as did most of his better tracks. I'm the kinda guy that wants to hear someone expand on their ideas when they play live, not to hear sub-radio-edits. Anyway... disappointing end to a once-in-a-lifetime night with a lot more potential than was delivered (mostly because
FW: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
-Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 09:35 It was a cover of Radiohead's 'Everything in it's right place'. WTF!?!?!!? He put a mix of this out as a boot a bit back then it kind of got sanctioned and redone and appeared on a Radiohead covers comp recently.
RE: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
Oh yeah, I remember this now. Vinyl Junkies had some. I didn't think much of the record at the time, but I'm sure it was interesting live -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 12:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: FW: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 09:35 It was a cover of Radiohead's 'Everything in it's right place'. WTF!?!?!!? He put a mix of this out as a boot a bit back then it kind of got sanctioned and redone and appeared on a Radiohead covers comp recently.
Re: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
It was a cover of Radiohead's 'Everything in it's right place'. WTF!?!?!!? I don't know if this is the same version he played at the party, but I picked this 12 up the other week. The Telefon Tel Aviv cover is pretty cool too, as is the Cinematic Orchestra. There is a 4 part series of these 12's out, haven't heard the rest. http://www.discogs.com/release/692386 Here is the full CD http://www.discogs.com/release/668306 Thanks for the review Tristan. Adam On 6/23/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, I remember this now. Vinyl Junkies had some. I didn't think much of the record at the time, but I'm sure it was interesting live -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 12:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: FW: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 09:35 It was a cover of Radiohead's 'Everything in it's right place'. WTF!?!?!!? He put a mix of this out as a boot a bit back then it kind of got sanctioned and redone and appeared on a Radiohead covers comp recently.
Re: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
yeah good stuff tris - not far off this: http://brownswood.5.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=4177 you should post it up there. or allow me.. tortured soul, the name, never fails to let theo's filtered delivery of 'might do something wrong' enter my cortex... oh yeah On 6/23/06, Adam Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a cover of Radiohead's 'Everything in it's right place'. WTF!?!?!!? I don't know if this is the same version he played at the party, but I picked this 12 up the other week. The Telefon Tel Aviv cover is pretty cool too, as is the Cinematic Orchestra. There is a 4 part series of these 12's out, haven't heard the rest. http://www.discogs.com/release/692386 Here is the full CD http://www.discogs.com/release/668306 Thanks for the review Tristan. Adam On 6/23/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, I remember this now. Vinyl Junkies had some. I didn't think much of the record at the time, but I'm sure it was interesting live -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 12:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: FW: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2006 09:35 It was a cover of Radiohead's 'Everything in it's right place'. WTF!?!?!!? He put a mix of this out as a boot a bit back then it kind of got sanctioned and redone and appeared on a Radiohead covers comp recently.
Re: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
I've seen Amp play (twice), and Tortured Soul (3 times) and I can totally see them meshing together nicely. I actually opened for TS DJ'ing at a small club in Iowa City, and I love the way that they're comfortable mixing out of a DJ set. I don't remember what I was playing when they did this, but they picked up the chords and bassline of the track and jammed on it for several minutes before starting into one of their own tracks. Their set this year at DEMF was actually pretty wonderful despite being lightly attended, due to heat and whatever else kept people from coming out during the day. We were hiding from the sun under the trees to the left of the stage, as was Boo Williams (who played a party later that night). Talking to Boo and doing my exhausted minimum-energy-vector dancing in the trees was one of my more enjoyable moments this year. TS played best during an impromptu encore set due to the next act's late arrival... it's an interesting thing to contemplate, the link between live musicians 'jamming' and a DJ playing a set. In both cases the critical element to both things is an interactive connection between audience and performer. Without the performer 'listening' to the audience, it just becomes too open-ended and ephemeral.
Re: (313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
On 6/23/06, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their set this year at DEMF was actually pretty wonderful despite being lightly attended, due to heat and whatever else kept people from coming out during the day. We were hiding from the sun under the trees to the left of the stage, as was Boo Williams (who played a party later that night). Talking to Boo and doing my exhausted minimum-energy-vector dancing in the trees was one of my more enjoyable moments this year. TS played best during an impromptu encore set due to the next act's late arrival... it's an interesting thing to contemplate, the link between live musicians 'jamming' and a DJ playing a set. In both cases the critical element to both things is an interactive connection between audience and performer. Without the performer 'listening' to the audience, it just becomes too open-ended and ephemeral. yeah i was hiding in the trees off to the right of the stage, in a half sleep half haze half dehydrated state. very enjoyable, one of the highlights for sure. those guys are good. i definitely would like to check them out playing with amp, i bet that would be way too hot. tom
(313) Last minute Amp Fiddler action in London tonight (maybe) guesting for Tortured Soul + Osunlade and Pharell
I can't guarantee the authenticity of the Amp Fiddler claim as it just came through from a Tortured Soul email and isn't listed on the Neighbourhood site or myspace page, but I'll be there anyway. Tickets available at Ticket web http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user?query=searchregion=xxxcategory=miscsearch=osunlade and as of a couple of hours ago also on the door. Tortured Soul @ Neighbourhood w/ Pharell Williams of N.E.R.D. and Osunlade ** special TS set w/ guest Amp Fiddler** www.neighbourhoodclub.net 6.22.06 Thursday LONDON, UK 6.23.06 Friday LONDON, UK Cargo w/ Osunlade www.cargo-london.com Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
(313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney last weekend
http://photos.australianrozie.com/GVF05?page=3 Oh lordy! Amp Fiddler was awesome last weekend in Sydney. Even though it was cold and raining. He has such a great onstage presence and him and his band were great players. He definitely delivered on any expectations and then some that I had of him. I guess most of you in the US and Europe have caught him long before us down under, but you haven't already, he's so worth the effort.
(313) Amp Fiddler Melbourne
To all those peepz e-mailing me about Amp Fiddler side shows in Melbourne here is the official word from the publicist: Everyone will have to come to the festival if they want to see Amp Fiddler I'm afraid!
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney
Funny you say that! A promoter texted me the other day and asked if I though a Digable Planets tour would be viable! He's the guy who has toured Rahsaan Patterson and Roachford so we'll see. I suggested Good Vibrations as the ideal fest. The Amp Fiddler tour is the most exciting thing to come up for us since finding out that (1) Michael Mayer is touring and (2) Ben Affleck/Matt Damon are in town... ;) Yep, that's the one. They're both being brought out as part of a music festival that last year brought out Gangstarr. Perhaps next year it will be Digable Planets... On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 17:12 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrested Development? As in 3 Years, 5 Months 2 Days In The Life Of ... Arrested Development? How long have they been back together? On a slightly related note I read that Digable Planets have reformed... MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 01/18/05 04:57 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development
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They have a new album, Arrested Development. I haven't played it yet. It's out in Aus in a couple of weeks. Arrested Development? As in 3 Years, 5 Months 2 Days In The Life Of ... Arrested Development? How long have they been back together? On a slightly related note I read that Digable Planets have reformed... MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 01/18/05 04:57 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney
And Theo Parrish is back in Aus in Feb, TBC... -- From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 9:57 AM For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development
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But can we expect KDJ any time soon? (one can wish :-) ) Cyclone Wehner wrote: And Theo Parrish is back in Aus in Feb, TBC... -- From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 9:57 AM For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development
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I don't know. There was so much political fallout with Theo, esp in Syd, the promoter felt kinda disheartened and she has not mentioned it to me for a while. I don't know if Kenny wants to come to Aus. It's a very long way - 7 to 16 hrs flight from Japan even - and he seems to like being at home and close to his peepz. I respect that. He knows there's interest. But can we expect KDJ any time soon? (one can wish :-) )
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney
looks like it's south pacific time at 313 while the rest of the world sleeps. i really hope theo returns soon. it's a long time between dances here. i don't know anything about the political fallout in sydney. but it was at a really crap club that shut things down because they weren't selling enough alcohol. plus the sound system was a joke. if you weren't humping the speakers you couldn't hear a thing. same for kenny larkin actually, totally inadequate sound system. anyway, different club, bigger sound system and bob's your uncle. there's more than one promoter in sydney. brennan green from modal and balihu is coming in feb to visit. hopefully we'll sort out some gigs for him. james www.jbucknell.com Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.com.au To 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org 19/01/05 07:35 PM cc Subject Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney I don't know. There was so much political fallout with Theo, esp in Syd, the promoter felt kinda disheartened and she has not mentioned it to me for a while. I don't know if Kenny wants to come to Aus. It's a very long way - 7 to 16 hrs flight from Japan even - and he seems to like being at home and close to his peepz. I respect that. He knows there's interest. But can we expect KDJ any time soon? (one can wish :-) ) ForwardSourceID:NT000181DE
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney
The best promoters for it turned it down in Syd - you can guess who they might be - so the Melb people did it themselves as that was the only option. It was shopped around. It's left a trail of heartache I can tell you. But Sydney is tough. The guys who did the gigs have a deal with Music For Freaks so they are doing an album now and that's their focus. Their band is pretty tight. Angela has a lot of presence (she used to act and got accepted by NIDA). looks like it's south pacific time at 313 while the rest of the world sleeps. i really hope theo returns soon. it's a long time between dances here. i don't know anything about the political fallout in sydney. but it was at a really crap club that shut things down because they weren't selling enough alcohol. plus the sound system was a joke. if you weren't humping the speakers you couldn't hear a thing. same for kenny larkin actually, totally inadequate sound system. anyway, different club, bigger sound system and bob's your uncle. there's more than one promoter in sydney. brennan green from modal and balihu is coming in feb to visit. hopefully we'll sort out some gigs for him. james www.jbucknell.com Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.com.au To 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org 19/01/05 07:35 PM cc Subject Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney I don't know. There was so much political fallout with Theo, esp in Syd, the promoter felt kinda disheartened and she has not mentioned it to me for a while. I don't know if Kenny wants to come to Aus. It's a very long way - 7 to 16 hrs flight from Japan even - and he seems to like being at home and close to his peepz. I respect that. He knows there's interest. But can we expect KDJ any time soon? (one can wish :-) ) ForwardSourceID:NT000181DE
Re: (313) Digable Planets (was: Amp Fiddler in Sydney)
Michael.Elliot-Knight wrote: On a slightly related note I read that Digable Planets have reformed... from http://www.kindred-spirits.nl http://www.kindred-spirits.nl/images/upload/nieuws2/nieuws2_6.jpg jurren
Re: (313) Digable Planets (was: Amp Fiddler in Sydney)
On Jan 20, 2005, at 6:48 AM, jurren baars wrote: Michael.Elliot-Knight wrote: On a slightly related note I read that Digable Planets have reformed... from http://www.kindred-spirits.nl http://www.kindred-spirits.nl/images/upload/nieuws2/nieuws2_6.jpg worlds colliding, listening to Jniero Jarel on Kindred Sprits, it's VERY much in the same groove as my personal fave effort from Digable Planets: Blowout Comb LP. If you like that style definitely check it out... Roy Ayers, Native Tongues, Philly soul, jazzy, melodic.. diverse and masterpiece of production. This one is gonna turn heads. I love the whole Kindred Spirits philosophy.. long overdue antidode to the the hyper-genre-obsessed music marketplace. peace -- Matt MacQueen http://sonicsunset.com
(313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney
For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 09:57 +1100, David Gillies wrote: For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development Oh, here's a link to the flyer: http://folkmail.thefolk.com/users/jules/images/74522.jpg
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney
Arrested Development? As in 3 Years, 5 Months 2 Days In The Life Of ... Arrested Development? How long have they been back together? On a slightly related note I read that Digable Planets have reformed... MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 01/18/05 04:57 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development
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Yep, that's the one. They're both being brought out as part of a music festival that last year brought out Gangstarr. Perhaps next year it will be Digable Planets... On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 17:12 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrested Development? As in 3 Years, 5 Months 2 Days In The Life Of ... Arrested Development? How long have they been back together? On a slightly related note I read that Digable Planets have reformed... MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 01/18/05 04:57 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Amp Fiddler in Sydney For the Sydney 313'ers, Amp Fiddler is playing a side show at the Metro 11th Feb along with Arrested Development
(313) Amp Fiddler last night NYC
Great show last night by Amp and the gang at SOB's. I missed Tortured Soul, they must have started playing really early. DJ True was spinning a mix of downtempo and soulful house...sketchy mixing but the crowd didn't seem affected. Amp went on at around 11pm and played for roughly an hour and forty minutes. There was a really good turnout for a tuesday night crowd. Although SOB's has a tiny stage, the group of six were all really animated. Amp switched from a standing by a vocal mike to sitting at the keyboards and back...within the same song. Two song highlights for me were 'Love and War'(an anthem here in Ft. Greene Brooklyn) and an extended 'I'm doing fine' which got a bit punk for a second. Everyone sang happy birthday to Paul Randolph who did a great job on bass. In the tradition of crowd walkup's at SOB's, there were two surprise guests, N'Dea Davenport from The Brand New Heavies contributed vocals to 'I'm doing fine' and Sheila Horne from P-Funk ccontributed vocals to 'Possibilities'. Both have amazing voices and left the crowd pretty stunned. Amp's playing Detroit thursday night at St. Andrews. So get out and see this show. dave
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR
err bit of an odd one but I bought my dad the amp fiddler album for his birthday [hes a big fan of motown :) ] - he totally loves it and was asking if theres anything else I could recommend along those lines ? Any recommendations would be great ! ta, marc - Original Message - From: Scott K Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: RE: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR Thanks for the post. Nice to see Amp getting the critical respect he deserves. Scott -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3608606 d __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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van hunt - soul vibes...van hunt pulls it off very very well...very good songwriting... martin luther - noticable improvement from his firs record check out his site www.rebelsoulmusic.com b
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR
check the forthcoming wale oyejide album. tiny bit more hip-hop, but mostly soul stuff. On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Marc Langsman wrote: err bit of an odd one but I bought my dad the amp fiddler album for his birthday [hes a big fan of motown :) ] - he totally loves it and was asking if theres anything else I could recommend along those lines ? Any recommendations would be great ! ta, marc - Original Message - From: Scott K Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: RE: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR Thanks for the post. Nice to see Amp getting the critical respect he deserves. Scott -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3608606 d __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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He may like the new Rahsaan Patterson album, After Hours, on Dome UK, Van Hunt, Erykah Badu's Baduizm (classic in the 'neo-soul' genre), Alicia Keys' Diary Of..., Aya's album on Naked (has a housier feel), AYRO's excellent ElectronicLoveFunk, also albums by Eric Benet, Maxwell (first album), Donnie's album, Jill Scott's albums, Vivian Green's A Love Story, Lizz Fields' album... -- From: Marc Langsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:27 PM err bit of an odd one but I bought my dad the amp fiddler album for his birthday [hes a big fan of motown :) ] - he totally loves it and was asking if theres anything else I could recommend along those lines ? Any recommendations would be great ! ta, marc - Original Message - From: Scott K Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: RE: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR Thanks for the post. Nice to see Amp getting the critical respect he deserves. Scott -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3608606 d __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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Thanks for all the recommendations :) [Will probs chek them out myself actually too ! ] ... Ill move him to jeff mills next I reckon ;) peace, Marc - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: Re: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR He may like the new Rahsaan Patterson album, After Hours, on Dome UK, Van Hunt, Erykah Badu's Baduizm (classic in the 'neo-soul' genre), Alicia Keys' Diary Of..., Aya's album on Naked (has a housier feel), AYRO's excellent ElectronicLoveFunk, also albums by Eric Benet, Maxwell (first album), Donnie's album, Jill Scott's albums, Vivian Green's A Love Story, Lizz Fields' album... -- From: Marc Langsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:27 PM err bit of an odd one but I bought my dad the amp fiddler album for his birthday [hes a big fan of motown :) ] - he totally loves it and was asking if theres anything else I could recommend along those lines ? Any recommendations would be great ! ta, marc - Original Message - From: Scott K Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: RE: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR Thanks for the post. Nice to see Amp getting the critical respect he deserves. Scott -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3608606 d __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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Some Aus people may be interested, Van Hunt is touring Australia later in the year. Also Rahsaan Patterson is playing the following dates: Saturday August 7 Melbourne (Groovalicious @ Evolution) Wednesday August 11 Gold Coast Thursday August 12 Sydney (FAT @ Gas) Friday August 13 Brisbane Saturday August 14 Sydney (The Basement) His new album (by far his best) features Van Hunt. The LP After Hours has been given an Australian release and is great. Patterson and Hunt did an album together for MCA but the label thought it too dark. ;) I think Theo has had a Patterson cut or two on his mix CDs. I am also hearing of an Amp Fiddler tour in summer. ;) -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc Langsman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 3:55 AM van hunt - soul vibes...van hunt pulls it off very very well...very good songwriting... martin luther - noticable improvement from his firs record check out his site www.rebelsoulmusic.com b
RE: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR
Thanks for the post. Nice to see Amp getting the critical respect he deserves. Scott -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Amp Fiddler on NPR http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3608606 d __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
(313) Amp Fiddler on NPR
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(313) Ridiculous record prices (Amp Fiddler)
So, yesterday I saw Amp Fiddler's Waltz of A Ghetto Fly LP in a local Chicago record store. The record is selling here for $27 US. Doesn't that seem a bit insane?! I can't believe Amp Fiddler can't get a domestic release for his stuff... ~David
(313) amp fiddler and tp
just spotted these on a thread on the deephousepage, and thought i'd share: http://www.gottahavehouse.com/video/amp1.zip amp fiddler live part 1 http://www.gottahavehouse.com/video/amp2.zip amp fiddler live part 2 http://www.gottahavehouse.com/video/tp.zip terrence parker hope everyone had a wonderfull time. i enjoyed the little snippets i caught from the webcasts. jurren _ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
Re: (313) Soul Out: Amp Fiddler Live, Theo Parrish, Peanut Butter Wolf, HFusion
Yes sir... His name morphed from HFusion from DJ Fusion. Hands down one of the best 5 dj's in Detroit. Used to dj for Slum Village.
Re: (313) Soul Out: Amp Fiddler Live, Theo Parrish, Peanut Butter Wolf, HFusion
KevinHis name morphed from HFusion from DJ Fusion. Hands down one of the best 5 dj's in Detroit. Used to dj for Slum Village. Thanks for the info Kevin. So, don't know anything about this guy, if anyone bumps into any mixtapes by him, or online mixes any where, please let me know. I enjoyed that last tape. Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Amp Fiddler - d'oh!
Oh yeah, someone already posted that info. Dammit.
(313) Amp Fiddler on UK TV tonight
Mr Fiddly will be playing live on Later With Jools Holland at 11.15 (I think) on BBC2 tonight.
(313) Soul Out: Amp Fiddler Live, Theo Parrish, Peanut Butter Wolf, HFusion
Instant Vintage Presents: Soul Out Featuring the sounds of Amp Fiddler Live (Genuine) Theo Parrish (Sound Signature) Peanut Butter Wolf (Stones Throw) HFusion (Sound Signature) Centre Street Saturday May 29 2004 Doors open at 10pm Produced by www.krossover.com 311 East Grand River, Harmonie Park, Detroit 313.965.3651
Re: (313) Soul Out: Amp Fiddler Live, Theo Parrish, Peanut Butter Wolf, HFusion
HFusion (Sound Signature) same geezer who did that cd? (dj fusion does fusion?) starts off with Tears For Fears. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
Wow- that's a really good point. On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, David Powers wrote: Interesting post. Just to put this in perspective, here in Chicago I've never ever seen an Amp Fiddler record. In contrast, at Gramaphone they get multiple copies of all the Ghostly stuff and it does seem to be selling pretty well... However I wasn't really aware that Matthew Dear was being so hyped, I really just checked out the records because they were in the store, had no idea he got written up in Rolling Stone or is supposed to be some next big thing. I haven't really heard mention of Amp Fiddler outside the 313 list. I did turn a couple of my hiphop-head friends on to Amp Fiddler however. The thing is, in the US, the Urban/RB style is really very corporate and Amp Fiddler probably would have a harder time going over here the way he might be able to in the UK. The market for more indy urban sounds is rather small, like a minority of people that might dig on underground hiphop. Amp Fiddler would need to get played by Clear Channel and the like to have a chance in the US urban market. Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. That is how it appears to may but maybe somebody has a different take on it??? ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:01:27 - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
I was having the same thought, which is that ghostly is being covered as if they were an indie rock band/label. they kinda have that aura around them anyways... From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:19:39 - To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Interesting post. Just to put this in perspective, here in Chicago I've never ever seen an Amp Fiddler record. In contrast, at Gramaphone they get multiple copies of all the Ghostly stuff and it does seem to be selling pretty well... However I wasn't really aware that Matthew Dear was being so hyped, I really just checked out the records because they were in the store, had no idea he got written up in Rolling Stone or is supposed to be some next big thing. I haven't really heard mention of Amp Fiddler outside the 313 list. I did turn a couple of my hiphop-head friends on to Amp Fiddler however. The thing is, in the US, the Urban/RB style is really very corporate and Amp Fiddler probably would have a harder time going over here the way he might be able to in the UK. The market for more indy urban sounds is rather small, like a minority of people that might dig on underground hiphop. Amp Fiddler would need to get played by Clear Channel and the like to have a chance in the US urban market. Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. That is how it appears to may but maybe somebody has a different take on it??? ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:01:27 - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
- I really noticed this as well. they're battering this album - arent they? - I was really surprised at first, but like Robert says, he's the next - portishead kind of thing for all the lawyers etc! not that there is - anything wrong with that at all. - yeah, but it caught me by surprise to see they were spending - s much - money on it. I reckon its good though, they're really - pushing a detroit - artist that they feel has a chance to appeal to quite a few people. - weird that he's not getting pushed in the US - maybe the - record co. who - licensed it aren't as confident? they'll probs push it when it's a hit over here. just a thought, i mean why spend the cash all over the world on promotion when the US follows what the UK does anyway. that's a joke btw before the lsit explodes :) robin...
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You guys are making me wish that I kept touring with Amp! Pias is in charge of Amp's record and they are a Europe based label. I bet you all the Europe hype will spill over to the states, at least on a strong underground level (which it has already). Is the mainstream ready for something this funky and fresh in the states? Amp has been at this sh*t forever and all the hype he gets is well deserved. anywho.here is a link to a video of Amp at bbc. thats me on guitar.. http://www.pias.com/videos/ampbbc.wmv p.s. I like that Dog Days track. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:20:49 + It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Hey Tristan. I really noticed this as well. they're battering this album arent they? I was really surprised at first, but like Robert says, he's the next portishead kind of thing for all the lawyers etc! not that there is anything wrong with that at all. yeah, but it caught me by surprise to see they were spending s much money on it. I reckon its good though, they're really pushing a detroit artist that they feel has a chance to appeal to quite a few people. weird that he's not getting pushed in the US - maybe the record co. who licensed it aren't as confident? anyway, yeah, just wanted to say I really noticed it too. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring _ There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=hotmail/es2ST=1
Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. I was having the same thought, which is that ghostly is being covered as if they were an indie rock band/label. they kinda have that aura around them anyways... I completely agree with that - Ghostly artists and record reviews don't look out of place in magazines like Spin, whereas if the same magazine covers someone like Amp Fiddler or say any of the usual Detroit techno/house suspects I'm compelled to think: Well looks like they dug up the one music journo they have on staff that knows something about dance music or has set foot in a dance club to do an article on __ just so they can appear hip to the kids who buy White Strips, the Rapture, Death Cab for Cutie, AND the new Basement Jaxx. That being said, the nice thing about Ghostly is - they might just get more people into techno. A very weak might. MEK
RE: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
just to pile on here for a sec (not that this topic really *needs* another post), but Dave makes a good point... There was a Ghostly night here in San Francisco a year or two back that was filled with indie kids that one normally only sees not dancing with their arms crossed at obscure rock shows. (Further, my conversations with folks at the bar uncovered the fact that at least half the crowd knew Ghostly from their college days in Ann Arbor.) Interestingly, they did not break out Matt Dear that night, but headlined with a Dabrye hip-hop set, which seemed a good choice for the not-dancing SF indie crowd. In contrast, an Amp Fiddler show would likely draw a more typical house and hip-hop crowd, like Ayro + Bugz a couple months back. So, maybe it's not even just about *marketing*, but actually about people's taste in music?! 0d -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:20 PM To: Phonopsia; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Interesting post. Just to put this in perspective, here in Chicago I've never ever seen an Amp Fiddler record. In contrast, at Gramaphone they get multiple copies of all the Ghostly stuff and it does seem to be selling pretty well... However I wasn't really aware that Matthew Dear was being so hyped, I really just checked out the records because they were in the store, had no idea he got written up in Rolling Stone or is supposed to be some next big thing. I haven't really heard mention of Amp Fiddler outside the 313 list. I did turn a couple of my hiphop-head friends on to Amp Fiddler however. The thing is, in the US, the Urban/RB style is really very corporate and Amp Fiddler probably would have a harder time going over here the way he might be able to in the UK. The market for more indy urban sounds is rather small, like a minority of people that might dig on underground hiphop. Amp Fiddler would need to get played by Clear Channel and the like to have a chance in the US urban market. Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. That is how it appears to may but maybe somebody has a different take on it??? ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:01:27 - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Original Message -- From: Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, maybe it's not even just about *marketing*, but actually about people's taste in music?! where do you think people get their tastes from? come on, why else would a rock crowd not want to hear amp fiddler? because theyve been trained to want a certain thing. real fans of music don't draw lines like that. people who buy into marketing do. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler [Marketing and music taste]
Oh- and to change topic a little bit, I just listened to AMp Fiddler album for the first time this morning (yeah- I've been talking without hearing- flame away), but my assumptions were absolutely correct about the record. Its basically smooth jazz. OK- maybe that's harsh, but its absolutely 100% indebted to 70's funk and soul music. There's not even an attempt to turn these songs out into something new. Not to say I dont like it. It will definately hold a certain place in my catalog (dinner party music), but there is absolutely nothing that's going to make me go back and want to hear it again in order to explore things i might have missed (the matt dear album had me going back for weeks on end as it finally grew and bloosomed in my brain). My thoughts exactly...it's good stuff for sure, but not something that's got me all excited like some folks seem to be. Each to their own I guess
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- Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) Amp Fiddler [Marketing and music taste] My thoughts exactly...it's good stuff for sure, but not something that's got me all excited like some folks seem to be. I agree it's not innovative really. I do think he brings his own sound out very well though, and I think it's remarkably solid straight through. For that matter, I don't think anything he's done has been terribly innovative. And I guess I wouldn't say anything I've bought in the last few years has sounded all that groundbreaking. At best most of it is just a further distillation/combination of existing sounds. But I don't really see that as a bad thing. For the record, it is definitely something that's grown on me with repeated listens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
- Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
Amp Fiddler's album is soon to be the album of choice for thirtysomething lawyers and suits who also bought Massive Attack, Portishead and LTJ Bukem to play in the background at their dinner parties. Just you wait. -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Just a side note about Amp Fiddler : they'll be playing live in Paris in February - in the New Morning, a famous jazz club... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Interesting post. Just to put this in perspective, here in Chicago I've never ever seen an Amp Fiddler record. In contrast, at Gramaphone they get multiple copies of all the Ghostly stuff and it does seem to be selling pretty well... However I wasn't really aware that Matthew Dear was being so hyped, I really just checked out the records because they were in the store, had no idea he got written up in Rolling Stone or is supposed to be some next big thing. I haven't really heard mention of Amp Fiddler outside the 313 list. I did turn a couple of my hiphop-head friends on to Amp Fiddler however. The thing is, in the US, the Urban/RB style is really very corporate and Amp Fiddler probably would have a harder time going over here the way he might be able to in the UK. The market for more indy urban sounds is rather small, like a minority of people that might dig on underground hiphop. Amp Fiddler would need to get played by Clear Channel and the like to have a chance in the US urban market. Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. That is how it appears to may but maybe somebody has a different take on it??? ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:01:27 - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Lots of stuff: Bone, Pullen, Mills, Amp Fiddler and a 'few' new records
Well, I'll try and generate some banter. Apologies if some of this is cross-posted. Saw Bone (twice) and Pullen this weekend. Bone was very good (as usual) and Pullen was better than I've heard him in a long time (although I didn't pay a ton of attention). Bone played some of the forthcoming Subject Detroit 02-04 releases @ Fabric but I had no idea of telling when they were on. He then played a track from 02 @ Plastic People Sunday morning which was rather nice. Impressions are a bit vague from 8 or 9 am, so apologies for the lack of detail. Watched a good chunk of the Exhibitionist DVD on Friday. I think it'll basically appeal to Mills fans and piss off anyone who doesn't like him or is on the fence. It's pretty sloppy in parts, but it's unbelievably candid, and you can switch between camera angles on-the-fly. Cool to watch his every movement in that much detail. Definitiely worth checking out for fans. Finally got my hands on Amp Fiddler's 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly', and the Yam Who remix of Only Child's 'Find a Way', on which he sings (and I think he plays keys too). Have had about a week with them now. The Yam Who remix is rather nice. Starts out with piano and vocal and slowly builds up some slower beatdown steam. Nice keys all over this one. The album is fantastic. There are a few songs on there that are going to blow people away I think, particularly 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' (even has George Clinton on vocals as the song winds down) and 'I Believe in You', which has some amazing backing vocals and a really simple but crafty lyric. But the whole thing is excellent. A proper album, from bigger P-funk moments to Love and War-style soul. Don't expect anything uptempo really, but get ready for something that'll really grow on you. Also got the John Tejad and Arian Leviste on MG a while back, but only finally put it on recently. Have had a chance to listen to it once so far, but there are somenice moments. On the whole, I'm less impressed with Tejada's collaborative efforts, and this didn't really compare to their last MG release on first listen, but I think Tejada fans should definitely give it a shake. If I have any lingering criticisms of him these days, it's that I think he's filling up double-packs when he might only have enough quality tracks for a 12, but I guess that's a minor point, and 'The Toiling of Idle Hands' was an exception to that I thought. Here's some new purchases from the weekend. Don't have them in-hand yet, so these notes are just based on audio clips. Hoefully I'll get some more detailed reviews out in the next week. Probably a few more to come as well. Got these all @ Piccadilly, who've have loads of new stuff in over the last few weeks. I really love that damn shop! :) Kai Alce : M-7 - 12 (a tasty, dirty Detroit house groove. Not essential, but nice) Brothomstates : Rktic / Matala Bobo - 12 (Arcola thingy which everyone is rightly spooing over) Chef : Extraball (The Remixes) - 12 (Kemit Sources and Freaks remixes - both sound hot) DJ Genesis : Back In The Middle (The Remixes) - 12 (has that Theo Parrish remix we all been waiting for - yay!) Everyday People Feat. Loretta Heywood : I Can't Sleep - 12 (Spacek and Afronaught remixes - a gorgeous vocal) Mark Force : Running In The Red - 12 (not sure how I missed out on this earlier. I know I had it in my cart at one point... Quality broken techno) Franz Ferdinand : Take Me Out - Morgan Geist Re-Version - 12 (think: House of Jealous Lovers remix, but slower, better, and this time with the vocal. Col) Inner Life : Moment Of My Life / I Like It Like That - 12 (Salsoul reissue that Farley always caned in those WBMX mixes - one of my favorite Hotmix 5 classics) Kerrier District : Kerrier District - 3xLP (Vibert gone disco) K L : Smile / Life - 12 (this one slipped by unnoticed the first time - '99. Kenny Larkin on KMS reissue. Feel dumb for not having it sooner...) Monolake : Cern / White II - 12 (yummy) Moodmusic Limited : Unreleased Vol.2 - 12 (guess I'm gonna have to track down that Heinrik Schwarz as well, innit) New Sector Movements : Sho You Right / Something - 12 (new NSM promo on Virgin. Slow-mo broken soul - may as well call it rb. Sounds tasty though) Nu Era : Some Think Electronic - 2x10 (yet more broken techno, from the 4 Hero massive) Osunlade Nadirah Shakoor : Pride / Touched My Soul - 12 (repress. Dig both tracks) Recloose : Us Vs Us - 12 (was hesitant first time I saw it, eventually it was the Kid Sublime remix that sold me. Real slow. Real good) Franck Roger : Mascarade - 12 (deep house and broken beats a la Versatile. Delivers exactly the quality you'd expect) Arthur Russell : The World Of Arthur Russell - 3xLP (Very happy to have Dinosaur L and a few others off of this, and hoping to learn about a ton of his other stuff. Soul Jazz hooks my ass up!) Sequel : Neptune, Moon Mars / Upsolid - 12 (more very tech-y broken beats on Sonar Kollectiv) Dani Siciliano : Likes... - 2xLP (when I first heard
RE: (313) Re: amp fiddler album
some classic tales in there like the realisation that he *did* know Moodyman and the stolen J-Dilla zips story oh, forgot to ask, what is this story?? is it good gossip? come on, I'm bored. The Dilla story? OK, paraphrased cos you asked so nicely: Amp hooks up young Dilla with his first MPC and lessons on how to use it. Also introduces him to Q-Tip, kickstarting a path to beatmaking superstardom. Dilla owes Amp a favour and promises to work on an album if Amp ever makes one. Amp starts to make album but Dilla is too busy to help. And then... Some kid who works in a Detroit barbershop asks Amp to produce a demo. Says he bought 10 zips from a dude for $100 and if Amp produces his demo he can keep 'em. Later when checking out the zips Amp recognises them as Dilla beats. Calls Dilla and says I've got all your zips! Whassup?. Dilla explains that someone broke into his house and stole some zips and tells Amp You can have 'em. But wait, there's more! Amp chooses a beat and makes it into the title track of Waltz Of The Ghetto Fly. All along he's thinking I know this track from somewhere, I've heard it before. A buddy comes by and says, Yeah I know that track, it's from Q-Tip's Amplified album!. Coincidently, one of Amp's companies is called Amplified. Hear the Dilla/Q-Tip joint: http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/rm/muze.download.akamai.com/2890/us/usrm/191/33 4191_1_06.ram?obj=v11016 Hear the Dilla/Amp twist (guitar by John Arnold): http://www.groovedis.com/lp/ampfiddler/waltz/b2.ram Ta da! By the way, a few months ago in Hiroshima I found a second hand 7 by Mr Fiddler of, you guessed it, Waltz Of The Ghetto Fly which was released by a French major about a decade ago. Has anyone checked Amp's old Mr Fiddler album from circa 1990/91? It's often available dirt cheap on Ebay. Andy
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- Original Message - From: Andy Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: RE: (313) Re: amp fiddler album some classic tales in there like the realisation that he *did* know Moodyman and the stolen J-Dilla zips story oh, forgot to ask, what is this story?? is it good gossip? come on, I'm bored. The Dilla story? OK, paraphrased cos you asked so nicely: WOW. Now *that* is a story! Ta da! By the way, a few months ago in Hiroshima I found a second hand 7 by Mr Fiddler of, you guessed it, Waltz Of The Ghetto Fly which was released by a French major about a decade ago. So this was just an earlier version of that song then? Has anyone checked Amp's old Mr Fiddler album from circa 1990/91? It's often available dirt cheap on Ebay. I was tasked with finding it in a Detroit record store at the last DEMF, but alas, I did not set foot in one. Some time thereafter, the Mancunian seeker found it on mp3, and said it was *OK*. I really wanna hear 'Waltz of the Ghetto Fly' immediately though. For those who are unclear on it, I believe it's not actually out until February or March, but promo copies started flying around stores and actual recipients in the last couple of weeks. Have yet to hear a negative report. Tom, I am coming to Pittsburgh to steal your copy. I leave in 3 hours. ;) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really wanna hear 'Waltz of the Ghetto Fly' immediately though. For those who are unclear on it, I believe it's not actually out until February or March, but promo copies started flying around stores and actual recipients in the last couple of weeks. Have yet to hear a negative report. Tom, I am coming to Pittsburgh to steal your copy. I leave in 3 hours. ;) ha. no seriously, these are finished copies we have here. no idea why you dont have em yet. theyre carried here by groove distribution and watts as well. the shop i work at does international shipping and its a great shop. the amp album is my pick of the week there: www.seventwentyrecords.com tom andythepooh.com
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Wait up, is that the new Ghetto Fly album??? its brilliant. really great soul music just cant be beat. the mix of superficial is different from the 12 mixes, and i think its different from the mix on that carl craig mix cd on react as well. anyway, its good sh*t, i highly reccomend it. new alton miller on track mode is decent too, not as good as the mahogani obviously, but good nonetheless. tom -- RIP jbible andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Louise Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait up, is that the new Ghetto Fly album??? yeah Waltz of a Ghetto Fly. its hot hot hot. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Re: amp fiddler album
its brilliant. really great soul music just cant be beat. Seconded. Plenty of audio samples over at http://www.groovedis.com/lp/ampfiddler/waltz/waltz.asp the mix of superficial is different from the 12 mixes Isn't this new mix the (second) one Theo used on Contemporhythms? I finally got round to watching the Amp interview from the Red Bull Music Academy the other day... some classic tales in there like the realisation that he *did* know Moodyman and the stolen J-Dilla zips story. Those links again: LO-FI: http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/link/avwebmt1215//RBMA/56k-amp%20fiddler. rm HI-FI: http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/link/avwebmt1215//RBMA/DSL-amp%20fiddler. rm
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That Red Bull conference is fabulous but they need better media coverage of it. They could exploit it so much better. I know people would like to read about it. Here they sent a writer for a surf mag to cover it last year! Doh! -- From: Andy Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: amp fiddler album Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 1:30 PM its brilliant. really great soul music just cant be beat. Seconded. Plenty of audio samples over at http://www.groovedis.com/lp/ampfiddler/waltz/waltz.asp the mix of superficial is different from the 12 mixes Isn't this new mix the (second) one Theo used on Contemporhythms? I finally got round to watching the Amp interview from the Red Bull Music Academy the other day... some classic tales in there like the realisation that he *did* know Moodyman and the stolen J-Dilla zips story. Those links again: LO-FI: http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/link/avwebmt1215//RBMA/56k-amp%20fiddler. rm HI-FI: http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/link/avwebmt1215//RBMA/DSL-amp%20fiddler. rm
(313) amp fiddler album
its brilliant. really great soul music just cant be beat. the mix of superficial is different from the 12 mixes, and i think its different from the mix on that carl craig mix cd on react as well. anyway, its good sh*t, i highly reccomend it. new alton miller on track mode is decent too, not as good as the mahogani obviously, but good nonetheless. tom -- RIP jbible andythepooh.com
(313) Steve Rachmad/Amp Fiddler
on rushhour.nl Rachmad and Amp have some new music up. ryan _ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! No crowds, free parking. http://shopping.msn.com
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Go John!!! Dr. Nutcracker
(313) London spam: Amp Fiddler and John Arnold
Amp Fiddler live at the Jazzcafe on 20th Nov 2003 http://www.jazzcafe.co.uk and John Arnold joins him, see below. Usual suspects tonight at the Juno Rooms! : ) Have a good weekend y'all. Cheers, Anya Begin forwarded message: From: The Jazz Cafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:24:46 PM Europe/London To: Jazz Cafe Subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Jazz Cafe Newsletter [...] NOW BOOKING JOHN ARNOLD added as support to AMP FIDDLER ON 20 NOV 2003
RE: (313) amp fiddler lovewar
hahaha thank you dave! andy, you can like it and i wont think less of you! :) many (deaf!! :P) really good friends on here dig amp a lot too. i'm not consciously comparing it to anything. music stands on its own and so do opinions. my ears hear what they hear. it has elements of jazz, house, soul/rb, etc etc. a great combination it would seem, which is why i am/was interested. but it comes out terribly disappointing and uninspired and overly familiar _to my ears_. your mileage may vary and all that. it IS generic sounding _to me_ -- even if the combination of genres seems to defy that, the sounds themselves dont. somehow, my brain tells my ears i have heard it before -- even if the different sounds were never together in quite the same way before, i still recognize them and dont like them, on their own, together, either way. and in any case, if it was a generic record of sounds i liked...but i just plain dont like the sounds or vocals. coming at it as a jazz record or an rb record or a house record does not change how it sounds or how i hear it. if i tried to hear it as whatever unique new hybrid genre it may be i'd still hear the same thing. it does not have that much character, to me. nothing you're saying makes it sound any better, to me. enough people have already given amp props that i dont think you need to defend your opinion...but i am a potential fan of this music for stated reasons, and i was wayyy disappointed. enough said!! jt Yeah, I agree completely with JT's comments, as a long time jazz player and fan I notice that some of the jazzier things seem more hype to others on this list than to myself, and I think maybe it's because my background and jazz makes me a little harder to impress with releases that go in that directions. It's so easy to sound like noodly lounge music in this genre!!! Haven't heard the new amp fiddler record so I can't comment on that specifically. But, well I'll just keep my opinion on his cover of Too High to myself. ;) --Dave -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) amp fiddler lovewar i just dont know what to say about this description of love and war. IMO nothing is generic about anything about it. perhaps the old quote he used in the lyrics is a little familiar, but i think that was the point. what lyrics?? i heard lovv and some scatting..?? quote? guess i need to listen again...? but i just dont even like his voice or his delivery..syruppy, too smooth not enough real feeling..to my ears! it's a subtle thing. i really dont see how any of this music is generic. but you know amp fiddler plays keys on at least one and probably more tracks on that album. if its fresh to you then great. not generic? well, i have heard thousands and thousands of jazz records. i sell them for a living. so maybe it's unfortunate but i dont hear anything but limp playing/ideas, heard it 1000 times before kinda stuff, as far as the jazz elements go. as far as his voice i hear a alot of rb classic vocalists distilled into something generic. its not amps fault his voice sounds the way it does but it doesnt grab me at all. i gotta say i am not very enthusiastic about the jazzy kdj stuff either, but usually it comes together better, progresses, etc etc so that it doesnt bug me and hits me better. it's a subtle thing. sometimes playing/singing this kind of cheese gets by with me, other times it makes me cringe and run to pick up the needle.. box, the amp dog knights, the detroit experiment LP with amp on a lot of the jazz on detroit experiment falls flat as well imo! sorry. i know at least a few people on here who are into jazz agree with me.. i much prefer russ gabriel's recent stuff. if he hooked up with a nice rb vocalist i think it could be in the same area as amp but blow him out of the water. if i wasnt extremely disappointed with it i wouldnt have said anything... jt _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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I didn't mean his comments specific to the record, but he ended with some general comments on his perspective as someone really versed in jazz. Detroit Experiment I was really only feeling a couple tracks, it seemed pretty cut and dried, like stuff that has already been done better by Herbie Hancock in the 70s which is a real pinnacle of music for me. Herbie is sick! I don't mean to knock the talent of any of those musicians on the Detroit Experiment btw, it is just an opinion. A song like Too High though which Amp Fiddler remade, well I wasn't feeling his voice and you better be damn fresh if you are going to remake a Stevie song. I wish they would have had Stevie sing on a remake of his song, now THAT would have got me excited! /dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 6:01 PM To: David Powers Cc: 'J. T.'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) amp fiddler lovewar Quoting David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, I agree completely with JT's comments, as a long time jazz player and fan I notice that some of the jazzier things seem more hype to others on this list than to myself, and I think maybe it's because my background and jazz makes me a little harder to impress with releases that go in that directions. It's so easy to sound like noodly lounge music in this genre!!! Haven't heard the new amp fiddler record so I can't comment on that specifically. But, well I'll just keep my opinion on his cover of Too High to myself. ;) --Dave How can you completley agree with JTs comments when he spent most of the post picking apart a record you havent listend to yet? Its easy to shrug ones shoulders and say there will always be generic music within any given genre, but to make or support a critical agrument about an album you havent heard yet is a bit presumptuous, wouldnt you say? Anyway... Is there Anyone else anxiously awaiting the new John Digweed epic trance remix of Eye to Eye? Talk about a superstar DJ with the ability to smash through genre borders with uncontested skill and dedication to the craft! -J
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-- Original Message -- From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy, you can like it and i wont think less of you! :) this is the second time recently that someone on this list has called me andy. whats up with that? my name is clearly tom (or thomas, depending on which parts of my email you look at). my friend is the andythepooh.com cat, i just like the free good webmail service. : P tom andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also know very little about jazz compared to most, so maybe I don't have the same distaste as a more typical jazz head might. i think being too involved emotionally with any given style of music creates a distaste for certain sounds. when i was really into drum and bass, the left field style drum and bass didnt really appeal to me at all. neither did the second reprazent LP. now that im emotionally detatched from that, it seems what i can tolerate within that genre is much more varied. thats why i make no pledges of allegiance to any genres now, i just like it funky : ) I like Freakin, reminds me of a cut you'd hear coming out of someone's trunk at a BBQ in the summer, recalls a Fatback or SOS Band vibe almost. yeah, i really like that track alot as well. PS - I love Detroit Experiment as one of the whole greater than the sum of the parts thing, each track is a little different and the crazy influences do come out individually AND collectively (to me). Midnight at Twenty Grand!! thats what im saying. Speaking of... Now I gotta go drive to Dusty Groove and pick up the new Dwele LP: ive been rocking that when i was working in the local hiphop record shop, its a nice album, good summertime music. tom andythepooh.com
(313) stevie [was RE: amp fiddler lovewar]
-- Original Message -- From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] you better be damn fresh if you are going to remake a Stevie song. have you heard madlib's white label LP of covers of stevie tunes? its f'n brilliant. tom andythepooh.com
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Detroit Experiment I was really only feeling a couple tracks, it seemed pretty cut and dried, like stuff that has already been done better by Herbie Hancock in the 70s which is a real pinnacle of music for me. Herbie is sick! I am telling you Midnight at Twenty Grand is the cut!! Such a moody detroity soundtrack, I can imagine driving into the city to that one, or looking out a rooftop across the city on a warm night outside. BTW - Totally agree about Herbie... not trying to take anything away from him. But as a proponent of future music (esp. of the detroit flavor) I can't just sit back and say well that sound has been done better 30 years ago by someone else so why bother. I want people to keep pushing, I want to hear someone who'll in 30 more years have blown Herbie away... hey I know it's far fetched but you know what I mean. Once you have the Herbie moments on vinyl you need, there's plenty of places and trajectories he's launched forward... I want to seek out where those seeds landed and who is taking it forward... on the electronic tip especially. Ayro seems promising... So you jazz fans, how about the top 3-5 must have Herbie Hancock LPs or moments ? Commentary encouraged. Peace, Matt MacQueen
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hahaha ok matt one last reply then.. to. It's funny you use jazz as a reference cause that's the last thing I would have likened it too. I like the songwriting. I would classify it as 'rb' or 'soul' before I would think of it as jazz, but wherever me too!! its just the jazz elements that irritate me the most, followed closely by the too-smooth rb elements...my comments on the jazziness were really msiunderstood i think...talk good me not do I also think when you take a mouthful of something and spit it out immediately (judging from your reaction that seemed to be the case?) You nahh i've had a lot of other amp stuff in digital for awhile, but just title tracks, thought i'd give a whole record a try... might have written it off wholesale without looking a little further. I like Freakin, reminds me of a cut you'd hear coming out of someone's trunk at a BBQ in the summer, recalls a Fatback or SOS Band vibe almost. haha yeah freakin would definitely be my favorite one...not saying much tho..its not that i think any of its so terrible, just does nada for me...and i guess i was just very disappointed after all my friends have been sayin such good stuff and seem to dig it so much.. I like the lyrics to love and war... didn't hear any scat myself. haha did i just have the volume too low?? was i trippin?? i'll definitely have to listen again aghh The keys playing I find interesting, moreso than the rhythms... the piano keys in 'love and war' I think are great and moody. Did you yuck! too nice, but this is a very subtle thing to me...he could make another song with similar keys and i'd like them. i still wouldnt think it was much special tho... listen to the electronic synth parts in freakin' ? Crazy analogue sounds and squiggles and synth farts, etc. It's just a fresh little summer jammy jam, I don't see anything generic in it.. the solo is nuts! nahhh...generic is being harsh i guess, but it all does really remind me of other things, and in any case, not doing it for me...i do like this kinda stuff, but not THIS stuff...i'm really not looking for an entirely different approach or anything at allit's just..so close, but so far..to me...y'know? has a lot of talent on the keys and I like the sound of his voice myself definitely very talented, and great voice -- just not for me, and awfully familiar on both counts there, to my ears...seriously, blame it on all the cheesey rb i listen to. it dominates the radio down here y'know -- if its not country, it's slowjams and rb. couple that with the fact i sell lame jazz records by the crate...my ears have been tainted :P i like crazier sh*t..more unique if i gotta put it that way but maybe that isnt fair The beats I think could be better compared to other elements of his productions, but we'll see what happens in the future... Maybe Amp just needs some $tinkworx beats to liven it up!! hahaha n dont say that!! i was disappointed by the beats because i like them when they start but then...they go nowhere...drop those sticks out for awhile in lovewar or something! or drop out everything but the sticks..i love em but damn..i got annoyed after a few measures... i really did want to like this stuff y'know..i dunno maybe it was all just too built up before i heard it...cant see ever loving it but maybe i should relax my expectations some... hope i wasnt too hard on ya either andy, probably, sorry man! thanks for trying to open my ears some.. PS - I love Detroit Experiment as one of the whole greater than the sum of the parts thing, each track is a little different and the crazy influences do come out individually AND collectively (to me). Midnight at Twenty Grand!! yeah, again dont get me wrong -- i actually like this album too, tho at the same time i end up a little disappointed with most songs individually, they bug me at some point...but i really enjoy listening to it and yeah it works really well as a whole..i bought it for both my parents even (they hip y'know :P) It seems to be the trendy thing now with a lot of techno heads to dislike where Carl is going on the jazz collective tip and I'm not havin it... music needs to expand, the detroit sound is way to wide to stay pegged in a single genre. I'm glad people are going for it. i dont mind the direction a bit! i think it'll get better and better... PS - Speaking of... Now I gotta go drive to Dusty Groove and pick up the new Dwele LP: yeah i saw rolling stone kinda slammed it, 1 or 2 stars or something, but i love their stuff. se? its not that amp isnt my kinda thing, its just something subtle about it that makes..not doing it for me...i might really be digging some future stuff tho... i mean i call it generic, but so much music is these days, including a lot of music i love...new gangstarr is basically generic primo hiphop, but i dig it...i dont mean to be insulting when i say crap like that... jt
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I really love Amp Fiddler because of the RB feel, I'm surprised you don't like it, but hey! ;) He's really won over the DJs here. I love his song with Only Child, U Got Vibes. Is Amp's album as Mr Fiddler, With Respect, on Elektra circa 1990 still available in the US? Isn't JT Justin Timberlake's 'hip-hop' nickname? Just playin'! ;) -- From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) amp fiddler lovewar Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 9:34 AM hahaha ok matt one last reply then.. to. It's funny you use jazz as a reference cause that's the last thing I would have likened it too. I like the songwriting. I would classify it as 'rb' or 'soul' before I would think of it as jazz, but wherever me too!! its just the jazz elements that irritate me the most, followed closely by the too-smooth rb elements...my comments on the jazziness were really msiunderstood i think...talk good me not do I also think when you take a mouthful of something and spit it out immediately (judging from your reaction that seemed to be the case?) You nahh i've had a lot of other amp stuff in digital for awhile, but just title tracks, thought i'd give a whole record a try... might have written it off wholesale without looking a little further. I like Freakin, reminds me of a cut you'd hear coming out of someone's trunk at a BBQ in the summer, recalls a Fatback or SOS Band vibe almost. haha yeah freakin would definitely be my favorite one...not saying much tho..its not that i think any of its so terrible, just does nada for me...and i guess i was just very disappointed after all my friends have been sayin such good stuff and seem to dig it so much.. I like the lyrics to love and war... didn't hear any scat myself. haha did i just have the volume too low?? was i trippin?? i'll definitely have to listen again aghh The keys playing I find interesting, moreso than the rhythms... the piano keys in 'love and war' I think are great and moody. Did you yuck! too nice, but this is a very subtle thing to me...he could make another song with similar keys and i'd like them. i still wouldnt think it was much special tho... listen to the electronic synth parts in freakin' ? Crazy analogue sounds and squiggles and synth farts, etc. It's just a fresh little summer jammy jam, I don't see anything generic in it.. the solo is nuts! nahhh...generic is being harsh i guess, but it all does really remind me of other things, and in any case, not doing it for me...i do like this kinda stuff, but not THIS stuff...i'm really not looking for an entirely different approach or anything at allit's just..so close, but so far..to me...y'know? has a lot of talent on the keys and I like the sound of his voice myself definitely very talented, and great voice -- just not for me, and awfully familiar on both counts there, to my ears...seriously, blame it on all the cheesey rb i listen to. it dominates the radio down here y'know -- if its not country, it's slowjams and rb. couple that with the fact i sell lame jazz records by the crate...my ears have been tainted :P i like crazier sh*t..more unique if i gotta put it that way but maybe that isnt fair The beats I think could be better compared to other elements of his productions, but we'll see what happens in the future... Maybe Amp just needs some $tinkworx beats to liven it up!! hahaha n dont say that!! i was disappointed by the beats because i like them when they start but then...they go nowhere...drop those sticks out for awhile in lovewar or something! or drop out everything but the sticks..i love em but damn..i got annoyed after a few measures... i really did want to like this stuff y'know..i dunno maybe it was all just too built up before i heard it...cant see ever loving it but maybe i should relax my expectations some... hope i wasnt too hard on ya either andy, probably, sorry man! thanks for trying to open my ears some.. PS - I love Detroit Experiment as one of the whole greater than the sum of the parts thing, each track is a little different and the crazy influences do come out individually AND collectively (to me). Midnight at Twenty Grand!! yeah, again dont get me wrong -- i actually like this album too, tho at the same time i end up a little disappointed with most songs individually, they bug me at some point...but i really enjoy listening to it and yeah it works really well as a whole..i bought it for both my parents even (they hip y'know :P) It seems to be the trendy thing now with a lot of techno heads to dislike where Carl is going on the jazz collective tip and I'm not havin it... music needs to expand, the detroit sound is way to wide to stay pegged in a single genre. I'm glad people are going for it. i dont mind the direction a bit! i think it'll get better and better... PS - Speaking of... Now I gotta go drive to Dusty Groove and pick up the new Dwele LP: yeah i saw rolling stone
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I love his song with Only Child, U Got Vibes. i actually got this in mp3 and dig it too, couldnt figure out when it was from? i think i have some from that album too, but i didnt like most of em much...i dunno, maybe its just amp's voice that turns me off the most...either ya like it or ya dont, nothing to do with being good or not...y'know? and i like similar sounding vocalists, go figure... but minto knows my taste pretty damn good and says i'd dig the first amp a lot more, oh well... Isn't JT Justin Timberlake's 'hip-hop' nickname? Just playin'! ;) yeah thats me! i just got off my ab-roller, techno ladies hit me up with some emails ;) jt _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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I love his song with Only Child, U Got Vibes. i actually got this in mp3 and dig it too, couldnt figure out when it was from? i think i have some from that album too, but i didnt like most of em much...i dunno, maybe its just amp's voice that turns me off the most...either ya like it or ya dont, nothing to do with being good or not...y'know? and i like similar sounding vocalists, go figure... It's from Only Child's new album Solitaire on Grand Central. Isn't JT Justin Timberlake's 'hip-hop' nickname? Just playin'! ;) yeah thats me! i just got off my ab-roller, techno ladies hit me up with some emails ;) Ha, ha, sprung bad... I don't think he's sexy at all. The others can have him. This is one cat fight I'm staying out of. ;)
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I'm stunned. I really can't believe anyone doesn't love this record. When I played it for my friend Ben, who doesn't really pay attention to anything electronic and is generally uninterested in it, I had to rip the headphones off his head. When I played it out a couple of weeks ago, one of my friends who fiercely hates vocals in house was cheering me on. It's useless for me to reiterate Tom (Andy ;)'s points, b/c I think he's said it all perfectly, but Dave, please give this a listen, b/c I wouldn't characterize anything about it as jazzy in anything more than the vaguest sense. It is pure funk. The keys that come in 1/2-way through are gorgeous. Perhaps they're simple, but they are as effective as anything Moodymann has ever done on his own and then some. The precise moment that they enter confirms the perfect arrangement of this record. I have heard it at least 50 times now, and every time that his keys come in I get a tingle in my spine. It does it for me in every way. J.T., we're really butting heads recently, aren't we. ;) Oh, and his live set was bar-none the best moment of the festival for me. Nothing else was even close - other than maybe Traxx @ Cannonball. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) The message in Herbie's LPs (was Re: (313) amp fiddler lovewar)
On 7/6/03 7:28 PM, Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you jazz fans, how about the top 3-5 must have Herbie Hancock LPs or moments ? Commentary encouraged. Maiden Voyage is a standout LP and track. Sublime mid 60s jazz exploration. The classic Dolphin Dance bookends the album. Head Hunters is the next must have. So completely influenced by 60s soul, and so influential on 70s funk and jazz. You know the bassline for Chameleon by heart even if you don't recognize the title. Trippy synth solos abound. I heard Sunlight on a Shake or CC mix and had to track down the 1977 release. Commercial, mildly funky, and so loaded with antique gear it'll make your head spin. Warning: vocoder in FULL effect. Most people point to Rockit from Future Shock next. An electro classic that's flat-out over-exposed right now. I haven't really listened to his last two releases enough to find favorite moments. That doesn't mean they aren't lurking in there. -- im P.S. Get a hold of Sound-System just to hear People are Changing. It's a cover of a brilliantly funky Timmy Thomas song.
Re: (313) The message in Herbie's LPs (was Re: (313) amp fiddler lovewar)
IMHO Sextant is Herbie Hancock's best work although the LPs you mention are all excellent. On Sunday, Jul 6, 2003, at 21:57 America/Detroit, Ian wrote: On 7/6/03 7:28 PM, Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you jazz fans, how about the top 3-5 must have Herbie Hancock LPs or moments ? Commentary encouraged. Maiden Voyage is a standout LP and track. Sublime mid 60s jazz exploration. The classic Dolphin Dance bookends the album. Head Hunters is the next must have. So completely influenced by 60s soul, and so influential on 70s funk and jazz. You know the bassline for Chameleon by heart even if you don't recognize the title. Trippy synth solos abound. I heard Sunlight on a Shake or CC mix and had to track down the 1977 release. Commercial, mildly funky, and so loaded with antique gear it'll make your head spin. Warning: vocoder in FULL effect. Most people point to Rockit from Future Shock next. An electro classic that's flat-out over-exposed right now. I haven't really listened to his last two releases enough to find favorite moments. That doesn't mean they aren't lurking in there. -- im P.S. Get a hold of Sound-System just to hear People are Changing. It's a cover of a brilliantly funky Timmy Thomas song.
Re: (313) amp fiddler lovewar
I'm stunned. I really can't believe anyone doesn't love this record. When I alright, ok, i'm an idiot then! :P i listened to it again and gave it more of a chance...i must admit the lyrics are decent, dunno why i didnt notice them the first time, nice message yeah. i guess i only heard the things i didnt like -- the smoky horns, the very nice/typical keys (sorry, its just a scale! nicely played but too nice! loungey..spine tingling?? ookkk :P), and the vocal delivery in general (btw there are bits of scatting in there matt, not much but a little) to say its not jazzy is to ignore the smoky horns and loungey keys and scatty bits, but i agree lovewar isnt really very jazzy overall, or housey, or even that rb tho, its more like old soul because of the vocals...i really wanna like it, and now after being treated like a moron for not liking it, i almost cant help it :P it's very good but it just dont do much for me, even now that i feel stupid about it. the parts i dont like go a long ways towards turning me off to the whole thing. i dont like that loungey leaning sound (like dave mentioned..) and it's very _nice_ stuff -- there's no twist...too damn nice! i do like the dub better, didnt even listen to it the first time i played the record. the beat does drop to just sticks and has a lot more happening, nice snares etc etc. alright. i'll hold onto it a little while maybe it'll grow on me. i still just aint feeling amp's vocals either tho. very much like old soul but without any rough edges and sounding a bit overcooked...imo! t smooth and smoky. i bet he was great live without the studio smoothness. the record is all close but no cigar to me...i do like it more now that i hear what the lyrics are saying tho. i'll review some other stuff i really do like soon. so far out of an order of 30 records this is the only thing i'm not very happy with. jt _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
