[AsburyPark] Re: Another AP Icon Demolished - no adopted or Official Plan plan
-Sign me up for the recall petition! <]:~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > There certainly is an "adopted plan". The process was followed > > (assuming for the moment it was the correct process) and resolutiond > > were passed. > > > > The Offical Adopted Plan is the one on file at the City Clerks > > Office. > > > > The Clerks Office is, by law, the official keeper of the City > Record. > > One should (assuming the Clerks Office is functioning properly) get > a > > copy of the Adopted Plan which was offically logged and filed. > > > > Lets see where this goes. > > Werner, remember, this is Asbury Park. I would not count on it. Sorry > you missed the council meeting tonight. They TRIED to defuse the > situation by repeating the lame stories. Aaron actually tried to make > people believe that Asbury Partners did the unofficial official plan > (June 2002) and tried to make that the plan. Keady saw through this in > that there was no incentive for Asbury Partners trying to add language > that was more adverse to them with regard to C-8. I beleive they are > stupid, but not that stupid. Keady was blown off by the cast of usual > suspects. However, I was especially dismayed by Ed Johnson reaction > who took Keady to task and told him to move on. Ed said the June 2002 > plan was just a mistake. A bigger mistake is him being a > councilmember. I guess he took DJ's article in TCN to heart and is now > going to play ball with his team cohorts. > > Back to the city clerk. As I said earlier, Kay told me that the plan > he considered the official adopted plan was the June 2002 version at > issue. That is he said, until Don Sammet told him it wasn't. He called > me later in the day to say he had a copy of the ordinance (2607) that > adopted the plan attached to the March 15, 2002 plan. Don Sammet told > him was the one adopted. That is the integrity of our public record > keeping. I assure you, if anyone actually knew what is the adopted > plan, they ain't telling. > > At the meeting I pointed out another detail which shows that they are > blowing smoke up our asses. The ordinance adopting the plan says it > gave the plan to the Planning board for review on 1/16/2002 (meaning > the plan had to be created before this date). The PB gave its > recommendations to the council on 4/26/2002, and the ordinance dated > 6/5/2002, adopted the plan in gave the PB (on 1/16/2002) except for > its acceptions and objections to the recommendations of the PB, which > werre further enumerated. Now pertaining to the plan, that is it. > There is no discussion that it was amended from some date before > 1/16/2002 (given to PB)to 3/15/2002. That's it. The only dates are > 1/16/2002 and 4/26/2002. Where did this 3/15/2002 plan come from? That > is not what the ordinace adopted. It adopted whatever plan was given > to the PB on 16/2002, which certainly could not have been dated > 3/15/2002, 2 months later. > > Finally, Aaron stated that C-8 must come down and new footings > installed. This is total new construction. He lied by only telling > half of the truth. Aaron stated that the only conditions placed on C-8 > development in the 3/15/2002 plan was to remove the garage and redo > the facade. He failed to say that the 3/15/2002 contains a section > identical to the 6/5/2002 plan which says that if the developer > can "finish" the project it can be built to the existing height. The > operative word is "finish." Finish does not mean demolishing the > structure, excavating and redoing the footings. That's a total new > development. > > They are trying to pull a fast one here. It's time to wake up and > smell whatever it is they're cooking. Look at the timing. Last week > its confirmed C-8 must come down (which I predicted). I and others > point out that if demolished they can rebuild to existing height, and > thus, would want an amendment for which we could and should get money. > I ask for clarification of what could be done on C-8 site if > demolished and all of a sudden the city this ain't the plan. At best > it is gross ineptitude, at worse, its criminal. > > Like it or not, the council, with the exception of Keady, won't do a > damn thing about this. Apparently, Johnson is included with the > majority. These council members are not even familar with these > documents. Time for a recall. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an
[AsburyPark] Re: Another AP Icon Demolished - no adopted or Official Plan plan
The Asbury Park city clerk is a man who is unsure of what he is doing. It took me over a week to get info from him that should have taken only a day. Don't get me wrong, he is a nice guy but he is a couple of Buds short of a six-pack. He is definately not controlling the strings in that office. <];~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "The Clerks Office is, by law, the official keeper of the City Record. > One should (assuming the Clerks Office is functioning properly) get a > copy of the Adopted Plan which was officially logged and filed." > > " where this goes." > > Where we go is to `never never land'; that "official anythings" remain > so is a function of rules society adopts and agrees to function by; > when you have the `tail' of one level of government, The Fishman, > directing its head, and this government in turn directing its superior > level of government, and so on and so on till we get to Trenton, which > shall always be thought of by me as the `supreme never never', all > bets are off. > > In many places on this planet, when government begins to act thusly, > the revolution is often not far behind. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > now that we > > > know that there is no "adopted" or `Official Plan' plan, there would > > > have been no necessity to pull or reduce anything; the Fish may have > > > inadvertently missed squeezing a few more big bucks from Asbury. > > > > There certainly is an "adopted plan". The process was followed > > (assuming for the moment it was the correct process) and resolutiond > > were passed. > > > > The Offical Adopted Plan is the one on file at the City Clerks > > Office. > > > > The Clerks Office is, by law, the official keeper of the City Record. > > One should (assuming the Clerks Office is functioning properly) get a > > copy of the Adopted Plan which was offically logged and filed. > > > > Lets see where this goes. > > > > Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan - website storage needed
Yahoo group apthehardtalk is another Asbury group. It was started a few months ago but doesn't have any activity. I think you can put it in that groups file. Membership is instant & yahoo has everyones info so its just a couple of clicks. <]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since the waterfront redevelopment plan is no longer available on the > City's website, I wanted to upload the (9) files comprising the > waterfront redevelopment plan to the Files section of the forum, > however, there is a size limitation (5mb per file 20mb for group) > which precludes this. Anyone know where I can upload these files to be > available for viewing by the public? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
-Werner, if you think a few malcontents on this board arguing back and forth is going to change anything in Asbury, I want whatever drugs you're doing! <];~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can see Werner going crazy with these posts that bare > > only a small reference to Asbury Park > > You got that right! Reminds me of that guy playing the > fiddle while Rome burned around him. > > "Meaning: Dithering about with unimportant things > while important things get left unattended." > > Sounds like the inmates have taken over the asylum again. :-) > > Really though, I see the 'off-topic' discussions as just another > indicator that people have resigned themelves to the decisions made > and direction being taken in Asbury Park. > > Seems that time (4+ years) has been on "their" side to wear out the > concerned minority and critics of public policy. As evidenced by the > lack of focus on attempting to correct some of the obvious > deficiencies in our City's "Big Plan" > > Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Live & Repeat Electric News For Asbury
Boy are you starving for attention! <]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings if you missed my live broadcast at 8 PM you can catch the replay > as it repeats 10:30 pm and every hour on the half hour through the morning. > > It was a good show. > > Being that this is an asbury chat board you can catch the broadcast on the > web at the following: > > _http://www.asburyparknj.com_ (http://www.asburyparknj.com) > _http://www.asburyparkcity.com_ (http://www.asburyparkcity.com) > _http://www.asburyparkvideo.com_ (http://www.asburyparkvideo.com) > > Peace to all! > > Kevin Brown > Live Electric News week nights a 8 PM est. > _http://www.electricnews.com_ (http://www.electricnews.com) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break
The only people I see outside that theater are drug dealers. They must be waiting to see West Side Story or Valley of the Dolls. <]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/3/05 4:51 PM, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > New York theaters put on professional shows. Locally you get the > > ocassional touring company. Someone from Jersey isn't going to drive > > to AP to see some community theatre. Hey Judy! Hey Mickey! Let's put > > on a show! > > Who wants those artsy fartsy wierdos hanging around their > > neighborhoods anyway? Just D.J. of the Slime City News. <]:~) > > Sandy, > > Did you know that just up the road in Long Branch is a PROFESSIONAL theatre > that performs the same world premiere shows that wind up in New York City? > They've world premiered work by some of the best contemporary playwrights in > the country. It's hardly community theatre. And if Asbury Park gets a > theatre, chances are it would develop into a fine regional theatre as well. > > Regional theatres like McCarter Theatre (Princeton), George Street Playhouse > (New Brunswick) and Crossroads Theatre (New Brunswick) play major roles in > bringing people to those towns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break
I always got those two confused! Well he's dead now so no more confusion. <];~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach Boys!" > > You're confusing August with Ringo. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach Boys! > > <];~) > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 10/3/05 4:27 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Gary please don't mistake my question for an assertion. I've > > taken > > > > no position here. I'm just trying to understand what you are > > > > saying. I still need an answer. Why does a place like Great > > > > Adventure thrive financially with no government subsidy, yet > > > > theaters and art districts, which you maintain are "big draws" > > need > > > > subsidy? > > > > > > I guess you have to look at the bigger picture. Why do trashy > > television > > > shows get better ratings than shows that try to make a statement? > > Why do > > > trashy novels sell more than pure literature? > > > > > > One could say that in a free market society that this is a good > > thing; > > > however, why is it that schools will include great literature in > > their > > > classrooms but ignore the trashy novels that outsell those books 6- > > 1? Could > > > it be because it's part of a greater good? I think so. I think > > that's why > > > the government tries to help businesses get off of the ground. > > > > > > Let's face it, Six Flags is part of a gigantic corporation that > > can afford > > > to run tons of ads down the throats of the masses while a normal > > theatre > > > cannot ever expect to do so. While there is a lot of costs to > > running an > > > amusement park or a Fortune 500 company, there are plenty of costs > > involved > > > in running a theatre (as you, more than most, are aware of). In > > addition to > > > rent, there are hefty utility costs, salaries to stagehands, > > directors, > > > actors, lighting crews, stage designers, marketers, etc. > > Unfortunately, you > > > would be very, very hard-pressed to survive at $20-$50 ticket > > prices. And > > > that's the rub. > > > > > > Theatre exists to show the good and bad of society. It is our > > truth teller. > > > It's our pathway from the past to the present and where we are > > headed. > > > Theatre tries to do this at a price that people can afford. > > Sometimes it > > > may seem expensive, but when compared to what a normal business > > would have > > > to charge to make a profit (or just survive) it is a bargain. But > > that > > > bargain comes with a price. It means tons of fundraising, begging > > everyone > > > from single subscribers to giant corporations to the government. > > > > > > And the government plays the smallest role of any of them. It > > plays a > > > necessary role, but a small one. Theatres have been forced to find > > > alternative sources for 96-98% of their operating budget. > > > > > > What does it cost per person to subsidize PBS? It's a > > meaninglessly small > > > number. I don't care if you never watch PBS, if you're gonna > > complain about > > > what the government subsidizes towards arts & culture than you > > better go > > > through the budget and pick out the thousands of other things that > > have no > > > bearing on your life and complain about those as well. > > > > > > Subsidization may sound awful, but it happens in almost every > > industry. Why > > > do people feel bad about the poor farmer who's got a decision > > about selling > > > the family farm for a couple of million dollars to a developer who > > wants to > > > put up a shopping mall but they hate the fact that artists are > > being helped? > > > > > > Maybe the problem is that America shoots for the lowest common > > denominator. > > > We despise our European roots because they still believe
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break
I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach Boys! <];~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/3/05 4:27 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gary please don't mistake my question for an assertion. I've taken > > no position here. I'm just trying to understand what you are > > saying. I still need an answer. Why does a place like Great > > Adventure thrive financially with no government subsidy, yet > > theaters and art districts, which you maintain are "big draws" need > > subsidy? > > I guess you have to look at the bigger picture. Why do trashy television > shows get better ratings than shows that try to make a statement? Why do > trashy novels sell more than pure literature? > > One could say that in a free market society that this is a good thing; > however, why is it that schools will include great literature in their > classrooms but ignore the trashy novels that outsell those books 6- 1? Could > it be because it's part of a greater good? I think so. I think that's why > the government tries to help businesses get off of the ground. > > Let's face it, Six Flags is part of a gigantic corporation that can afford > to run tons of ads down the throats of the masses while a normal theatre > cannot ever expect to do so. While there is a lot of costs to running an > amusement park or a Fortune 500 company, there are plenty of costs involved > in running a theatre (as you, more than most, are aware of). In addition to > rent, there are hefty utility costs, salaries to stagehands, directors, > actors, lighting crews, stage designers, marketers, etc. Unfortunately, you > would be very, very hard-pressed to survive at $20-$50 ticket prices. And > that's the rub. > > Theatre exists to show the good and bad of society. It is our truth teller. > It's our pathway from the past to the present and where we are headed. > Theatre tries to do this at a price that people can afford. Sometimes it > may seem expensive, but when compared to what a normal business would have > to charge to make a profit (or just survive) it is a bargain. But that > bargain comes with a price. It means tons of fundraising, begging everyone > from single subscribers to giant corporations to the government. > > And the government plays the smallest role of any of them. It plays a > necessary role, but a small one. Theatres have been forced to find > alternative sources for 96-98% of their operating budget. > > What does it cost per person to subsidize PBS? It's a meaninglessly small > number. I don't care if you never watch PBS, if you're gonna complain about > what the government subsidizes towards arts & culture than you better go > through the budget and pick out the thousands of other things that have no > bearing on your life and complain about those as well. > > Subsidization may sound awful, but it happens in almost every industry. Why > do people feel bad about the poor farmer who's got a decision about selling > the family farm for a couple of million dollars to a developer who wants to > put up a shopping mall but they hate the fact that artists are being helped? > > Maybe the problem is that America shoots for the lowest common denominator. > We despise our European roots because they still believe in things like art > & culture as defining a society. We fail to understand how there could be > Muslims who are so offended by what we call art these days that they want > our society to be wiped out. To MOST OF THE WORLD, arts & culture is how > they want to be remembered. I guess Americans would rather be remembered > for how well their stock did today. We don't think of legacies or legends; > heroes or people who changed the world. We think of immediate > gratification. > > August Wilson passed away yesterday. In some places around the world, I > expect there is a significant loss being felt. It's a shame that 99% of the > people in America have no idea who Wilson was. And that's why the arts > should be subsidized in my opinion. Because men like August Wilson have > done so much for society that people SHOULD know about them instead of > having them linger in obscurity... While we linger in ignorance. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break
New York theaters put on professional shows. Locally you get the ocassional touring company. Someone from Jersey isn't going to drive to AP to see some community theatre. Hey Judy! Hey Mickey! Let's put on a show! Who wants those artsy fartsy wierdos hanging around their neighborhoods anyway? Just D.J. of the Slime City News. <]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't the fact that theater and art districts are in > > need of government funding proof that people really don't care > > enough about them to pay for them, and therefore proof that they are > > not the best tourist draws? > > Do you really think that Broadway, Off-Broadway, and Off-Off Broadway really > doesn't play a role in: > > A) the identity of New York City > B) tourist dollars for New York City > C) jobs for New York City > > If you don't see this as an investment, there's really nothing I can do to > change your mind except tell you to go to the theatre districts of NYC and > see what it brings to the table night after night. It's easy to get people > excited about the weekends. Things like theatre bring people to the hotels > and restaurants and stores every single day. > > Instead of trying to answer or convince you of something that should be > quite obvious, let me ask you this. Why is it that virtually EVERY > town/city in America that has ever been reborn has done it through the arts > or entertainment? If it's not important to subsidize and MAKE SURE the arts > survive then explain to me why all of these towns loved to utilize the arts > to make the property attractive to business owners and lure residents in? > > Of course, most towns/cities are stupid enough to try pushing the arts out > after the property values are high enough... Then, like karma, the towns > start their downward slide to obscurity again while the artists move and > improve a different area. That's why I think Asbury Park is in a unique > situation. It truly is close to starting over from scratch. Why not be the > town to EMBRACE the arts instead of pushing them away after luring people to > the area? Why follow the same pattern that everyone else does when you can > use the arts to your advantage? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break
Little Bo Peep, you must be lost with your flock. This is an Asbury Park group not a Long Branch group. Please re-direct your post to the proper group from now on. <:~} --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The Broadway ARTS LLC Group hopes to revitalize the Broadway corridor. I > have been reading so much about this with very little said about what's really > happening. > > None of the current owners are being allowed to participate in this plan and > the plan will allow the use of eminent domain, if we do not bow down to the > powers behind it. > > In a time when the entire Country is screaming out against eminent domain > abuse, we here in Long Branch keep getting plan after plan all of which at it's > core is the grabbing of land from current owners to give to politically > affiliated friends of the Long Branch Administration. > > Mayor Adam Schneider has received the political support of both the Katz and > Pereira families for years now. Mayor Schneider's law offices are in a > building owned by one of Larry Katz's LLC's or property management companies. > One may jokingly say; "They are as thick as thieves." Only with the lower > Broadway plan it's not a funny expression! > > As a current owner of property in the targeted area I felt that the stories > left far too much out to be ignored. First of all two accounts said that > Broadway Arts LLC, the developer is Representing a group of long- time business > owners on the block. > > When in fact Siperstien's owner Larry Katz and his son Todd are the only > business operators at property on the block in the 2 party group.None of the > other property owners presently on the two blocks are permitted to be > included. > > As a matter of fact all of them who approached Todd Katz were sent away with > no hope to participate. He wants to buy us all out for very little. Most > are tired of his arrogant attitude and none of us cares about how close or > beholding the Mayor is to him and his father. Nor do we care how many appointed > official positions he has served in at the bequest of the Mayor. All we are > getting is a forced appraisal and in a short time a 2 week notice to sell or > loose our land through eminent domain. Just like the MTOTSA home owners. > > The City's appraiser, Hugh McGuire is the very same guy who appraised the > ocean front which included Mr. Bruce Mac Cloud's Cooper avenue home. That > appraisal was for $140,000.00, when Mr. Mac Cloud's appraiser came in at over > $600,000.00. So how confident can we, the commercial property owners be with > what is coming. > > A good look at lower Broadway does indicate it needs some tender loving > care, no one disputes this. Frankly the buildings that need most of the work > have been used as storage and warehouses as well as industrial purposes are all > owned by Mr. Katz. It's obvious to us who have been property owners for > decades here, feel Mr. Katz served himself by only using his properties as > storage and warehouses. One could easily conclude that he kept downtown in need of > revitalization. > > However every property owner who has brought plans to renovate their > buildings to the City were turned away, because apparently this deal between Mayor > Schneider and political supporters Katz & Pereira families has been in the > smoke filled back rooms of political nonsense for as far back as 5 years. > > The plan stinks, for it is excluding the present property owners and > stealing away their tenants into his proposed west bank of Lower Broadway. > > Besides one of the two buildings Broadway Arts LLC wants to donate to the > City is the old Clem Sommers Building. Guess what, neither Katz nor The > Pereira's own that building. How do you offer in a development proposal property > to a City that you don't even own? > > Further more what does the City need with two buildings. Operating theatres > is not a good idea for Municipal Governments. Almost every theatre company > in New Jersey operates at a loss. All of them are subsidized as much as 50% > of their annual budgets. Do the tax payers of the City of Long Branch need > this additional tax burden? I think not! > > Lower Broadway does not need Katz. He wants to close his business on Lower > Broadway and move into the Evicted Bowling Alley he bought across from > Monmouth Race Track on Joline Avenue, that's fine. To expect to use in his exit > plan his political clout with Mayor Schneider to evoke eminent domain so he > could take away all the commercial properties owned by us is extremely corrupt. > > Leave us in Peace and build a bowling alley where your paint store is now, > you owe the City at least that much seeing as you eliminated the only > recreational indoor facility in town with you
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
-GG518 aka fireguy. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I was told that he was a CABANA BOY or a TOWEL BOY at the Allenhurst > Beach Club. His father is the supervisor of public works here in A.P. > So with DADDY'S political connections he was employed as an A.P.F.D > dispatcher." > > OK I give up; who's the poor bastard you guys are having fun with? > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope your gut is O.K., Sharon. But it is true ,this is not a joke. > > I was told that he was a CABANA BOY or a TOWEL BOY at the Allenhurst > > Beach Club. His father is the superviser of public works here in > > A.P. So with DADDY'S political connections he was employed as an > > A.P.F.D dispatcher. I was told that somehow he was able to by- pass > > Civil Service and was appointed to the position of Firefighter. I've > > seen this guy and I would bet all the money I have that he could > > never pass the Firefighter's Civil Service physical test. It's a > > really tough test and if you saw the build on this guy, I think you > > would agree, he wouldn't be able to pass this test. A couple of > > years ago, under the stewardship of Terry"I got a few bucks stashed > > in the attic"Weldon he was appointed as a Fire Inspector.I couldn't > > believe this when I heard it but the more I learn about A.P. > > politics the more I can believe it. Just hold on to your gut sister. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > I'm bustin' my gut here! YEEEOOOWWW! > > > Love you Sandy! > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Well, it is 12:40. What was the big announcement at Curruption > > > > Central?- > > > > Anyone know or care? > > > > -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > What is going on at City Hall is totally different from the > > Wonder > > > > Bar. The > > > > > Wonder Bar is in regards to the hurricane effort. City hall > > Press > > > > Conference > > > > > is a lot different. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: E News Live Tonight at 8 PM
-First of all, I don't find you entertaining. Second,if this is the future of entertainment, I'll make sure my TV set is serviced yearly. Is this the reason you went to New Orleans to be in that room to get a computer show on the air. You should have been helping to save people instead of playing with computers. And you claim to be a man of the cloth. Ha! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings: > > The Electric News is going live tonight at 8 PM > > All domain names will be blasting a live feed to the world from my desk. > > I am asking people to come on at any one of the web sites to see it and tell > me how it is. > > Not the content, cause Iam ugly and full of self opinions, we all know that > already. > > I am looking for comments on the quality of the service. > > You can IM me if you are an aol member when Iam broadcasting and I will give > you a free plug from yourr IM or email. > > Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) for tonight, and > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) for other > things... > > the broadcast will be available on the following domain names: > > _www.asburyparkcity.com_ (http://www.asburyparkcity.com) > _www.longbranch.net_ (http://www.longbranch.net) > _www.longbranch.tv_ (http://www.longbranch.tv) > _www.longbranch.info_ (http://www.longbranch.info) > _www.longbranchlive.com_ (http://www.longbranchlive.com) > _www.asburyparknj.com_ (http://www.asburyparknj.com) > _www.asburyparkvideo.com_ (http://www.asburyparkvideo.com) > _www.electricnews.com_ (http://www.electricnews.com) > _www.lbtoday.com_ (http://www.lbtoday.com) > > THE LINK AT _www.longbranchlive.com_ (http://www.longbranchlive.com) will > automatically expand the media player to full screen. To reduce the full > screen double click on it and it will go to the embedded size on the web page. > Visa Versa to return to full screen mode... > > This is cutting edge, for it is how entertainment will be provided into the > household in the near future. Interested individuals who wish to have time > spots for themselves or their business or commercials should contact me early > for the best opportunities. > > Thanks > KEVIN BROWN > > To be removed from this list just email me and it will be done. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
I hope your gut is O.K., Sharon. But it is true ,this is not a joke. I was told that he was a CABANA BOY or a TOWEL BOY at the Allenhurst Beach Club. His father is the superviser of public works here in A.P. So with DADDY'S political connections he was employed as an A.P.F.D dispatcher. I was told that somehow he was able to by-pass Civil Service and was appointed to the position of Firefighter. I've seen this guy and I would bet all the money I have that he could never pass the Firefighter's Civil Service physical test. It's a really tough test and if you saw the build on this guy, I think you would agree, he wouldn't be able to pass this test. A couple of years ago, under the stewardship of Terry"I got a few bucks stashed in the attic"Weldon he was appointed as a Fire Inspector.I couldn't believe this when I heard it but the more I learn about A.P. politics the more I can believe it. Just hold on to your gut sister. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm bustin' my gut here! YEEEOOOWWW! > Love you Sandy! > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it is 12:40. What was the big announcement at Curruption > > Central?- > > Anyone know or care? > > -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > What is going on at City Hall is totally different from the Wonder > > Bar. The > > > Wonder Bar is in regards to the hurricane effort. City hall Press > > Conference > > > is a lot different. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
And our taxes pay for this city slacker! If it wasn't for Daddy he would still be a CABANA BOY in Allenhurst. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You can read about it in the paper tomorrow and the coaster. If everyone is > so interested then you should have been there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
Well, it is 12:40. What was the big announcement at Curruption Central?- Anyone know or care? -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is going on at City Hall is totally different from the Wonder Bar. The > Wonder Bar is in regards to the hurricane effort. City hall Press Conference > is a lot different. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
That's right, your the big credentialess reporter for a non sanctioned paper. <]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Be there tomorrow at 11:00 am and find out how wrong those websites > are. Trust me there will be a press conference there with a mojor > announcement. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Tomorrow (Wednesday) at 11:00 am. Be there or be square!!! > > > > A Red Herring, there is no indication that there is a meeting at > that > > time and place. Check any of the usual "City" websites. > > > > Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
maybe Christie is coming into town to announce some new indictments. Shit the list is so long it could be anyone here even. <];~} --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Be there tomorrow at 11:00 am and find out how wrong those websites > > are. Trust me there will be a press conference there with a mojor > > announcement. > > > Should I bring handcuffs or will they be supplied? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] GOOD BYE BENNIES !
We can roll up the sidewalks one more time! <];~) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rebuttal to TriCity from ANYBODYS (if anybody cares!)
Thanks Werner.As a big Anne Rice fan I've been looking for something like this. You are a bottomless fount of onfo. Again thanks for the link. <]:!) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Werner, I missed you. I thought you were on your way to New Orleans > > to have the Superdome a National Historic Landmark! <]:~) Hang in > > there. Even Asbury is part of a bigger world that we live in. > > Everything is relevent. AP could be the next Katrina.-- > > Aww Shucks. Thanks > > It really is national tragedy for American History. > > http://www.tourneworleans.com/ > > http://www.neworleans.worldweb.com/SightsAttractions/HistoricSitesInt erp > retiveCentres/index.html > > Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rebuttal to TriCity from ANYBODYS (if anybody cares!)
Werner, I missed you. I thought you were on your way to New Orleans to have the Superdome a National Historic Landmark! <]:~) Hang in there. Even Asbury is part of a bigger world that we live in. Everything is relevent. AP could be the next Katrina.-- - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally - a post related to Asbury Park ! - Perhaps this will start a > trend away from the current chat revolving abound member bashing, > politics, religion, racism, etc,etc. > > (I'm putting on my flame-proof suit) > > Werner > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "cyberbuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 09/05/05 > > > > Editor; TriCity > > > > Thank you for the publicity. > > > > Leonard Soriano > > ANYBODYS > > CC: J. Keady, E. Johnson, J. Reilly, S. Koperweis Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Sharon Boone
-Go ahead Sharon, let him sue you. Because then he has to open all his books to you. Then you'll see how much money his non-profits are makeing with the conglomerote of Web sites and who knows what else he's running down there. Did I hear silicone valley of the cloth? <];~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > SHARON BOONE (PRESUMABLY) WROTE > > I see. You're a professional exploiter, just like Pat Robertson, > calling for the murder of Hugo Chavez, as long as your hat is full > when it's passed! Too bad they didn't snipe you, O white boy, holier > than thou or those "coloreds" as you call them. I'd like to see the > video of one of them "thugs" as you call them giving you a good old > fashioned ass-whipping! You deserve one! Pretending to be a man of > the cloth, to keep from holding a REGULAR job! How's your 501C3 > status going? Have one! Got a EIN? I wished the FBI would wire me up > to catch you! > > response: > > I doubt very much you really are Sharon Boone, you sound more like Mike > Booth. However, I never used the word "colored" in any post that I originated. > > Also this will be the last time I acknowledge anything you write, because > quite frankly you have absolutely no credibility. As for making fun of my skin > color... "I forgive you." > > As for your judgement of me, your wrong. However your slanderous and racist > remarks are filled with hate, a matter I am sure could be prosecuted against > you. > > As for your comments about my organization... you have no clue. > I would ask you post your true contact information so I can follow up your > public assaults with a law suit. > > Please speak only facts when you speak of me or I will defend my name and > the name of my organization to the fullest extent of the law. > > Rev. Kevin Brown > Lighthouse Mission > Long Branch, NJ > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Katrina offers opportunity for Bush to regain public support
After the tragedy we have all witnessed this past week, I think everyone deserves at least a two minute laugh. Go to app.com. Click opinion. Go to subject matter under editorials. If you have todays Press it is on pg. c3. I want some of what ever this guy is on. <];~) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
"Half-past dumb" would be the correct spelling. Glad I could help you out. <]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sandy, > can you spell "Half-Past Dumb"? > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why should you embarress your loving family like that? <;~)- > > > -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Mario, since I said "Thank You" for calling me a Dittohead, didn't > > that tip you off that I knew what it was? Once again, Thank You! I > > wear the Dittohead tag proudly! Mega-dittos, Rush!!! > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fox news - Rush - Pat - Falwell
I guess your a Rev. made from the same cloth as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson. Next you'll be blaming the gays for the hurricane because you know they were responsible for 9/11. <];-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "noblarneyzone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Re: Jersey Kev's comment: > > > > > > One week later the same mob > > screamed at him and spit at him and said "Crucify Him." Let's not > leave that out cause it is the crucifiction that saves the believing > heart... > > > mjd 's comments> > > Those folks had probably been listening to the demagogic > blathering on Fox > > news, right-wing hate radio, or pharisees like Pat Robertson and > Jerry > > Falwell. > > > > mjd > > KEV AGAIN > Talk is cheap!!! > > Now tell me how does your hostility feed one hungry person? > Now tell me how does your hositlity give drink to one thirsty person? > > Than tell me how you liberal horse manure helps the children who are > devasted and confused??? > > I want you to go to Houston, Texas and tell the kids there when they > ask YOU "When can we go home?" That well, you can't because Bush is > still president or that Conservatism has invaded your home in the > form of water, snakes, etc, etc > > The problem with your gripe is you have no answers. I havent seen > John Kerry on his swamp boat out there lately. Where is Hillary? > > I guess I should be thankful that you are at least blaming man and > taking shots at me, instead of blaming God. > > However, your kind comes to that soon anyway. > > LOL > > KB > > > > > > > > > > Original Message > > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- canât fathom the > Jesus you > > praise Date: 9/4/2005 12:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: > > Jesus never counted on Government(s) for anything. Exactly my > > point. He walked everywhere he went, never blaming or > complaining. > > Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey... on that day he was > > heralded such as a King would be. One week later the same mob > > screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the > > Government "Crucify Him!" > > > > Thanks for prooving my point for me. > > > > Kevin Brown > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > "â¦even the addicted who have struggled for so long were > always the > > > ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going > > > before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take > the > > > ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay > behind > > and > > > unfortunately they suffered for it." > > > > > > Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor "even the > > > addicted⦠were always the ones with the greatest mobility", > > > notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of > the > > > paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that > the > > poor > > > are among those having the "greatest mobility" and absolve a > > president > > > of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his > highest > > > duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. > > > > > > I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked > among > > > lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no > > influence > > > over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise > tolerating, > > much > > > less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of > business > > > is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when > presented > > the > > > choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened > > hundreds > > > of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit > of > > his > > > Iraqi folly. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > > > > > > "Some people blamed the President for not responding to the > > needs of > > > > the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit." > > > > > > > > Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the "people who elected > not to > > > > evacuate" and us as to how people without automobiles were to > > pack up > > > > their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles > to > > what? > > > > > > > > We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, > > likely > > > > have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach > that > > your > > > > particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but > all > > that > > > > begs the question,
[AsburyPark] Re: FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
-Five days late, millions of dollars short! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > FROM THE WHITEHOUSE: > > On behalf of President Bush, thank you for your correspondence. > In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, President Bush and all > Americans send their thoughts and prayers to the families of > those who have lost lives and to all those affected by this > natural disaster. > > The President is directing Federal agencies throughout the > government to do all in their power to assist the victims of > Hurricane Katrina. The top priority is to save and sustain lives. > President Bush established a White House task force to oversee > Hurricane Katrina response and recovery, and he convened a Cabinet > meeting to ensure that Federal agencies' efforts are timely and > fully coordinated. Residents of the Gulf Coast states affected by > the hurricane have lost loved ones, lost homes, and been displaced > from their communities, and they will have the full support of the > Federal government. > > The President has called for the coordination of all parties > involved in the response and relief efforts. Federal, state, and > local governments are working side-by-side to deliver relief to > the areas physically damaged by Hurricane Katrina and to > communities across the South that will be affected in the aftermath > of the storm. Efforts and resources are focused on saving lives, > sustaining lives, and supporting long-term recovery. For > information and guidance you may wish to visit the FEMA website at > www.fema.gov or call 800-621-3362 or 800-621-FEMA. > > The President has called on all Americans to support the relief and > rescue efforts through charitable contributions and aid. Americans > who wish to contribute can do so by contacting charities that are > assisting with hurricane relief. For more information on relief > and recovery efforts, please visit the USAFreedom Corps website at > www.usafreedomcorps.gov. > > Thank you again for taking the time to write. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fox news - Rush - Pat - Falwell
If your a man of the cloth, as you claim you are, why are you hiding out in a room in the middle of this human tragedy playing with electronic gear. You should be out in the streets tending to your flock. That's what Jesus would have done.I know that if I was able to be there, I would be helping the victims not sitting on my ass quoting history & scripture,and spewing nonsense on a web site. Shame, Shame Shame on you! <]:-( --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "noblarneyzone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Re: Jersey Kev's comment: > > > > > > One week later the same mob > > screamed at him and spit at him and said "Crucify Him." Let's not > leave that out cause it is the crucifiction that saves the believing > heart... > > > mjd 's comments> > > Those folks had probably been listening to the demagogic > blathering on Fox > > news, right-wing hate radio, or pharisees like Pat Robertson and > Jerry > > Falwell. > > > > mjd > > KEV AGAIN > Talk is cheap!!! > > Now tell me how does your hostility feed one hungry person? > Now tell me how does your hositlity give drink to one thirsty person? > > Than tell me how you liberal horse manure helps the children who are > devasted and confused??? > > I want you to go to Houston, Texas and tell the kids there when they > ask YOU "When can we go home?" That well, you can't because Bush is > still president or that Conservatism has invaded your home in the > form of water, snakes, etc, etc > > The problem with your gripe is you have no answers. I havent seen > John Kerry on his swamp boat out there lately. Where is Hillary? > > I guess I should be thankful that you are at least blaming man and > taking shots at me, instead of blaming God. > > However, your kind comes to that soon anyway. > > LOL > > KB > > > > > > > > > > Original Message > > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- canât fathom the > Jesus you > > praise Date: 9/4/2005 12:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: > > Jesus never counted on Government(s) for anything. Exactly my > > point. He walked everywhere he went, never blaming or > complaining. > > Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey... on that day he was > > heralded such as a King would be. One week later the same mob > > screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the > > Government "Crucify Him!" > > > > Thanks for prooving my point for me. > > > > Kevin Brown > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > "â¦even the addicted who have struggled for so long were > always the > > > ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going > > > before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take > the > > > ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay > behind > > and > > > unfortunately they suffered for it." > > > > > > Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor "even the > > > addicted⦠were always the ones with the greatest mobility", > > > notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of > the > > > paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that > the > > poor > > > are among those having the "greatest mobility" and absolve a > > president > > > of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his > highest > > > duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. > > > > > > I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked > among > > > lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no > > influence > > > over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise > tolerating, > > much > > > less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of > business > > > is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when > presented > > the > > > choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened > > hundreds > > > of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit > of > > his > > > Iraqi folly. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > > > > > > "Some people blamed the President for not responding to the > > needs of > > > > the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit." > > > > > > > > Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the "people who elected > not to > > > > evacuate" and us as to how people without automobiles were to > > pack up > > > > their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles > to > > what? > > > > > > > > We get that you're a true
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip
-Thank you, Mario. I Couldn't have said it better myself in such few words. <]:-) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JK's comment: > > > My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the > PresidentDon't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay > behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. > from Harry Truman: "The buck stops here." > > > from Anne Rice: > > "...a chorus of voices rose. 'Why didn't they leave?'...'Why did they stay > there when they knew a storm was coming?'...'Why do people live in such a > place?'...Now the voices grew even louder. 'How could people shoot one > another?'...'What kind of people are these, the people of New Orleans, who stay in a > city about to be flooded, and then turn on one another?' > "Well, here's an answer. Thousands didn't leave New Orleans because they > couldn't leave. They didn't have the money. They didn't have the vehicles. They > didn't have any place to go. They are the poor, black and white, who dwell in > any city in great numbers; and they did what they felt they could do - they > huddled together in the strongest houses they could find. There was no way to > up and leave and check into the nearest Ramada Inn. > "What's more, thousands more who could have left stayed behind to help > others. They went out in the helicopters and pulled the survivors off rooftops; > they went through the flooded streets in their boats trying to gather those > they could find." > Respectfully, > mjd > > > > > > > > Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Responding to Skip > Date: 9/4/2005 9:50:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: > > > In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: > > "Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of > the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit." > > Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the "people who elected not to > evacuate" and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up > their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? > > We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely > have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your > particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that > begs the question, should the "people who elected not to evacuate" > have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? > > > Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were > emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they > should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at > fault here. Certainly not the President. > > SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and > see the error of their ways. > > I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard > clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about what was to > happen, before it happenned. But I ask you, even if God showed me ahead of time. > like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have said; "Thank You > Brother Brown, let me get out of here now!" and how many do you think would have > laughed at me? (at the very least) > > As far as the Doctrine of God helps those that helps themselves... I do not > subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that silly notion was that > JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL! > > Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch among the extreme needy and I > had a daughter living in the French Quarter for three years while she > struggled with drugs if you must know. Why I even mention this is because I was > always amazed how the poor, even the addicted who have struggled for so long > were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going > before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. > > Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay > behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. > > Happy Sunday > Kevin Brown > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > _Asbury park home_ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Asbury+park+home&w1=Asbury+park+home&w2=Asbury+park+nj&w3=Asbu ry+park+hotel&w4=Asbury+park+real+est > ate&w5=Asbury+park&w6=Seaside+resort&c=6&s=131&.sig=ZElj2kVWE_ravi9Wo 0Oplg) > _Asbury park nj_ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Asbury+park+nj&w1=Asbury+park+home&w2=Asbury+park+nj&w3=Asbury +park+hotel&w4=Asbury+park+real+estate& > w5=Asbury+park&w6=Seaside+resort&c=6&s=131&.sig=CQriiWFSyJBhtWVV7qdih Q) > _Asbury park hotel_ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/gads
[AsburyPark] Re: New Orleans
Kevin wrote:"Bsides why is it that only Liberals are complaining...??? Well besides the usual Liberals that we are used to hearing from I heard these Liberals actually shouting about the lack of aid and the failure of sonny boys preparedness. Bill O'Reilly,Shepard Smith, Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson... Numerous top Rep. officials. Tom Delay"Nobody knows who's in charge" So Mr. Webbie, since your Mr. Techie all you have to do is visit other web sites for your answer but you won't because the truth is not on your side and "You Can't Handle The Truth" <]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of > the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit." > > Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the "people who elected not to > evacuate" and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up > their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? > > We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely > have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your > particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that > begs the question, should the "people who elected not to evacuate" > have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of > the > > people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Subsequent > to the storm > > the levees broke and the sea reclaimed much of its sea bed for New > Orleans > > is BELOW SEA LEVEL. > > > > I now have heard reliable eye witness reports from the actual > locations in > > NO and from People I know in Washington, DC. > > > > First off: > > > > The violence was so bad let me give you the eye witness report I got > from > > someone I know and also hearing this on CABLE NEWS TONIGHT, as a > confirmation. > > > > At the Super Dome. A man raped and killed a SEVEN YEAR OLD GIRL. > 10 other > > men beats him to death. This all happened within 30 minutes when > apparently > > the same man who raped the little girl struggled with a National > Guardsman - > > taken his weapon and shooting him. > > > > Now from the Washington friends: The White House was not about to > go in and > > subject rescue workers to the violence without first securing the > area with > > a sufficient amount of soldiers. The violence was so HIGH, it took > 10,000 > > plus Military to call the area stable. > > > > No matter who you wish to blame - it's really doesn't matter. > > > > It's starting to turn around. > > > > I for one pay no attention to ignorance. In this country as free as > you are > > to spout off... other are as free to tune out! > > > > Besides why is that only Liberals are complaining...??? > > The be happy - and no worries crowd are not good at NASTY!!! > > > > May The Peace of The Lord Jesus Christ Be Upon All Mankind. > > > > Rev. Kevin Brown > > Lighthouse > > Long Branch, New Jersey Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Chief Justice Rehnquist Dies
-Hopfully he was able tp go in peasce with minor pain.and the harnds of the Lord reaching to accept his even though they are not pure. But Jesus will absolve him of his sins and his hands will turn pure white along with his soul. He was an educated man with alot of decisi0ons to make. /too bad he had to make so many bad ones, But his life is over now, his legacy will determine his judgements. So you Brother Rehnquist go have a sit with the lord and tell him what you have been up to lately. BYM I wouldn't they about your young decisions, Best if He finds out about them at a later date, When He's gotton to know better, It'll go down alot easier then, So noe my prayers go to your soul and those you leavr behind. I just have a simple question to ask of you. Could you leave that cool robe with all the markings on it to me. Thsnk you- thatwill be real RAD man. <]:~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Go In Peace and thank you for your service to our Nation. > > Rev. Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Chief Justice Rehnquist Dies
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Go In Peace and thank you for your service to our Nation. > > Rev. Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1423
Sonny boy didn't put James Witt back in charge of FEMA. He should have done it though. If he had done that, he would be admitting his mistakes and we know that sonny boy won't admit to ever making a mistake. Mr. Witt has been hired by the La. Governor but I don't know in what position. It is related to the rescue & clean up. It would take a democrat to repair the mess made by sonny boy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Frank's right. Guess who the administration had to put back in charge of > FEMA? James Lee Witt!! > Has anyone heard the spin they're putting on N.O. now? That the people left > behind were too lazy to work. How about that? Demonize the victims, so you > don't have to empathize with them. > Maureen > > In a message dated 9/3/2005 3:28:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Sure Sandy. You can say it's all the President's fault. I, of > > course, > > > refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. > > > > Has anyone corrected you yet on this, BB? Hurricane Andrew > > occured under the glorious reign of King Geo. Bush I. He had a > > political hack in charge of FEMA, and as a result proceeded to > make a > > horrible situation worse. Bush, Sr.'s aloofness during that > > hurricane's devastation has been considered to be one of the > factors > > in his inability to win a 2nd term. President Clinton put a non- > > partisan professional in charge of FEMA. His name was James Lee > > Witt. For eight years FEMA ran like a well-oiled machine, until > > Sonny Boy, that n'er do well spoiled frat boy, put another hack in > > charge of FEMA and then folded FEMA into the department of > homeland > > security, which he in turn put in the hands of a LAWYER! So it is > > indee very generous of you not to blame Clinton for Hurricane > > Andrew. At least the people in New Orleans know the truth. Many > are > > referring to their city as Lake George in honor of the guy who > > couldn't possibly have imagined that the levees could be breached > > despite books, numerous articles, and programs predicting just > that > > scenerio. > > If Bush's failures in this area do not amount to active > > genocide, they seem to me to be a case of passive "genocide by > > neglect". > > And please don't waste your prayers on me. If I'm headed > for > > the infernal regions, I'll be sure to say hello to George, Dick, > > Karl, Condi (I hope the shoes she bought in Ferragamos in NYC > > YESTERDAY are asbestos lined), and the rest of that gang for you. > >Frank D'Alessandro > > Speak up - It's America!! > Maureen Nevin > Asbury Radio -"The Radio Voice of Asbury Park" > 88.1FM - "5" Years on the Air!! > Asbury's Own Live Talk Show > 601 Bangs Avenue > Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or > Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/ > Call the show 732-775-0821 > Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
The survivors on TV have said they couldn't leave because it was the end of the month or they needed to wait for their paychecks and they had no money in order to leave. The transportation you mention is not free. The OEM should have corraled the public & school buses to aid in the evacuation. I can believe that a city with a predominately black population can be run by blacks and ran well. New Orleans wouldn't have the tourist trade it has if it wasn't run properly. Asbury Park is one of the few exceptions,as we have seen. In fact most of the big cities in the US have mostly black residents and are ran fine with black elected officials. There is no way the entire city could have been evacuated in time if they were told to do so. Physically impossible. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don't buy into the Welfare statement! New Orleans is a large City > comparable in size to NYC. It has one of the most efficient rapid > transit systems in the United States! Many residents don't own a car > like New Yorkers because, YOU DON'T NEED ONE! The buses run every 5 > MINUTES! Cabs have METERS in them! Ask AP how rapid or convenient or > affordable, is this system run by NJ transit? You just can't beleive > a city run by Blacks FOR Blacks, is that efficient, huh? Well, it is, > which is why the Mayor was so upset that the FEDS didn't come in, > when asked. Washington knew 7 days in advance, that a major hurricane > was going to hit the Gulf coast! Going up the chain of command, the > governor did contact the FEDS. They IGNORED HER! She called the > President on Wednesday, as a last resort! She, not Nagin, is the > governor. You all seem to have inherent racism, built in to your > psyche, so you just can't imagine a city being WELL-run by a > minority, where the minority is the MAJORITY! All you can see is a > black face out of control, a screaming, crying, white WOMAN! Wait > until the emergency is over and the TRUTH comes out! My sister left > New Orleans for Houston, on 8/26/05, Saturday! They WERE told! > > > > First of all, and i heard this on TV and not sure if it is true, > the > > resident were not told to evacuate in a timely manner. If all the > > residents had the ways and means to leave, the infrastructure would > > not have been able to handle it. It would have been one big parking > > lot. > > Knowing it is the end of the month and also that most residents > live > > paycheck to paycheck, You don't just tell them to evacuate, you > have > > to aid them in the evacuation. Supply transportation to get the > > residents out.Transport them to a safe area to ride out the storm. > > They had concerns about the roof of the Superdome before they > > seltered the residents there. > > Coming across the Gulf the hurricane was a catagory 5. The > officials > > knew the levees were built to withstand a catagory 3. So they were > > aware that the levees could be compromised and unfortunately and > > sadly they were. > > After that sonny boy vacationed in Crawford and went to a party in > > Ca. without giving any thought to the victims in the Gulf states. > > Just a side note. Al Sharpton just took the press to task,as you > > have been doing, told them to stop calling the > survivors "refugees". > > I'm not to crazy about the guy all the time but at least he is > never > > afraid to set anyone straight. I'm now glad that Kanye was cut off > > on the show last night. Because they did it has been all over the > > press & net.Now everyone knows what he said not just the ones > > viewing the show.MSNBC,NBC etc. should be ashamed of themselves for > > cutting he off but now I say thank you. <:~) > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > The local and state officials completely failed in the pre- > storm > > > > evacuations etc. The federal gov. failed post-storm. <:-( > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > WHERE DID THE MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS & THE GOVERNOR GO WHEN THE > > > STORM > > > > HIT > > > > > ??? > > > > > WHY OH WHY DID THEY NOT TAKE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT > LEAVE > &g
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
First of all, and i heard this on TV and not sure if it is true, the resident were not told to evacuate in a timely manner. If all the residents had the ways and means to leave, the infrastructure would not have been able to handle it. It would have been one big parking lot. Knowing it is the end of the month and also that most residents live paycheck to paycheck, You don't just tell them to evacuate, you have to aid them in the evacuation. Supply transportation to get the residents out.Transport them to a safe area to ride out the storm. They had concerns about the roof of the Superdome before they seltered the residents there. Coming across the Gulf the hurricane was a catagory 5. The officials knew the levees were built to withstand a catagory 3. So they were aware that the levees could be compromised and unfortunately and sadly they were. After that sonny boy vacationed in Crawford and went to a party in Ca. without giving any thought to the victims in the Gulf states. Just a side note. Al Sharpton just took the press to task,as you have been doing, told them to stop calling the survivors "refugees". I'm not to crazy about the guy all the time but at least he is never afraid to set anyone straight. I'm now glad that Kanye was cut off on the show last night. Because they did it has been all over the press & net.Now everyone knows what he said not just the ones viewing the show.MSNBC,NBC etc. should be ashamed of themselves for cutting he off but now I say thank you. <:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The local and state officials completely failed in the pre-storm > > evacuations etc. The federal gov. failed post-storm. <:-( > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > WHERE DID THE MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS & THE GOVERNOR GO WHEN THE > STORM > > HIT > > > ??? > > > WHY OH WHY DID THEY NOT TAKE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT LEAVE > THE > > CITY OUT > > > OF THE CITY EARLIER > > > > > > Who do we blame I really don't know who is the blame but we need > to > > work > > > together to help everyone that needs help. > > > > > > Toni > > Not living there now, the Governor is in Baton Rouge, the State > Capitol. I wouldn't expect her to be in New Orleans or any outlying > Parish during the height of the storm. Remember, the storm by- passed > New Orleans. It was the levee that burst, that inundated the City, > the > day AFTER the storm. The Mayor has a storm headquarters WITHIN the > city > but can't control a levee break, especially when the feds told him to > kiss their ass, when they refused 2 YEARS IN A ROW, for needed funds. > The Army Corp of Engineers, a Federal Flood Mamagement Team like the > Tennessee Valley Authority, is in charge of the levees, NOT the City! > It's a part of the Emergency Management. I haven't lived there in 35 > years, yet you want ME to be the expert for you, but because I LISTEN > and I READ, you want ME to be EINSTEIN, when YOU PEOPLE who are > natives > of NEW JERSEY, don't even know your OWN laws and regulations! Spare > ME! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
The local and state officials completely failed in the pre-storm evacuations etc. The federal gov. failed post-storm. <:-( --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > WHERE DID THE MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS & THE GOVERNOR GO WHEN THE STORM HIT > ??? > WHY OH WHY DID THEY NOT TAKE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT LEAVE THE CITY OUT > OF THE CITY EARLIER > > Who do we blame I really don't know who is the blame but we need to work > together to help everyone that needs help. > > Toni Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Hannitized. I hear that is some type of CULT. I was told that the more sonny boy sinks, the more Kool-Aid they are making. Cheers! <;~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Thanks for the correction, Frank! > > > > Now let's see if I can get this right: > > > > Hurricane Andrew: George H.W. Bush's fault. > > Hurricane Katrina: George W. Bush's fault. > > Hurricane = Bush genocide. > > > > Yup. Another clear case of "Bush Derangement Syndrome." Your > > hatred of the Bush family has retarded your ability to think > clearly. > > > > Fortunately I'm qualified to give you a perscription to fight that. > > You need to be Hannitized. Listen to 77 AM next Monday to Friday > > from 3:00 to 6:00 PM. The truth is the antidote for Bush > > Derangement Syndrome. > > > > Feel better Frank. > > > Not sure about your credentials to make the above diagnosis, but > happy to see you finally accepted a correction from someone re one of > your purported "facts". Glad to be of help. > Frank D'Alessandro > PS Never said that either hurricane was the "fault" of either Bush; > nice try at diversion, though. It's the aftermath that concerns me. > But don't want to overload you with too many corrections or confuse > you with too many facts. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: say it loud
Connie Ricepattie is a puppet of sonny boy. Sonny boy fumbled the proverbial football big time.<:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sharon Boone wrote..." > > Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B! She does NOT speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM!" > > > Pardon me, but is that the most racist thing that I have ever read here > or anywhere else? > Your damn right Condi Rice doesn't speak for any Black Person...Condi > Rice speaks for all people of all races, all creeds and all religions. > She speaks and does more for the freedom of Man than any other woman I > know of on this Earth. Instead of villifying Condi Rice, you Sharon, of > all people should be hoilding her up as an example of what a woman can > become if they WORK hard and TRY to better themselves. Shame on you. > > And shame on the rest of you who take such a horrific tragedy and turn > it into your political football. George Bush was no more or less to > blame for the sufferings caused by Katrina than anyone reading this. > And George Bush is the President of The United States, he is not the > person in charge of New Orleans, or the Gulf Coast. The elected > leadership of the hurricane ravaged Gulf Coast have by and large proved > to be a bunch of whimpering incompetent idiots who could spell > leadership with a spel checker. There had been no leadership down > there until the President arrived and Bush had the balls to say so. > > BlueBishop, thank you for taking on these idiots, as Skip said, your > posts have been cogent and right on target. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MSNBC TELETHON
Tahat's his normal face. - -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Singer Kaye West was just cut off the air because he said "George > Bush > > doesn't care about black people". > > Mike Myers looked like he was gonna hurl! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
-Can't a girl just have a little fun now & then? <;~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not touching this one but you assume a lot! You know what assume does, huh? Assume makes an ass out of u and me! > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:25 AM + 9/3/05, sandy wrote: > >Hey Joe, You don't know if im straight or gay, white or black or > >whatever or if im male or female. > >Now that I offended you again, I guess you'll go back to the other > >site and complain about me again. You don't know me. Grow up little > >man. > > Your yahoo profile says you are a 21 year-old female. And you'd have to be either gay or lesbian to be a member of what you refer to as "the other site." Am I wrong? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Oh Joey, baby. I gave you more credit than that. You know you can't believe everything you read. You are sneeky. Are you a private dick or just a little one? <;~)- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:25 AM + 9/3/05, sandy wrote: > >Hey Joe, You don't know if im straight or gay, white or black or > >whatever or if im male or female. > >Now that I offended you again, I guess you'll go back to the other > >site and complain about me again. You don't know me. Grow up little > >man. > > Your yahoo profile says you are a 21 year-old female. And you'd have to be either gay or lesbian to be a member of what you refer to as "the other site." Am I wrong? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
I hear they're working on it still! <:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you telling me they haven't? > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Everybody wants to take over Asbury Park, esp. the crooked > polititions.!- > > -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Sandy, no offense taken! I was upset when the responder said you > were gay, then I felt apologetic because I don't want to offend > anyone! Gay or straight! Blacks say the Gays want to "takeover" > Asbury Park and squeeze the Blacks out! Not my words! Just > repeating! I hear it all the time! I really don't have an opinion on > where gays choose to live. Don't care! My daughter has gay neighbors > and they are warm and caring, which was why I said, "no flames" in > my last post! I don't care what you say here, someone will get > offended. What I'm trying to say is, don't care what you are, > man/woman/straight/gay. I enjoy your posts! > > > > > > Sharon Boone > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sharon, Im sorry that you didn't see that I was making fun of A.P > > and not the victims of the gulf coast. My heart is breaking for > the > > people down there. None of us should have to wait this long for > aid > > in that heat. I apoligize if you are offended. My prayers are with > > all the victims of this natural disaster. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Dear Sandy, > > > You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of > > Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the City! > > You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a creep > > for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore > her > > anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and > they > > will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what > happens > > when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not the > > usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue > for > > 5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B! She does > NOT > > speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is > > the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome > > THEM! > > > > > > > > > Sharon Boone > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your > > obligations > > > to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our > > > waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). > > > Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you > are, > > we > > > are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the > Gulf > > > states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry > about > > too > > > much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There are > > only > > > a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing > > compared > > > to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on this > > > board). > > > Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury > Park! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Everybody wants to take over Asbury Park, esp. the crooked polititions.!- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sandy, no offense taken! I was upset when the responder said you were gay, then I felt apologetic because I don't want to offend anyone! Gay or straight! Blacks say the Gays want to "takeover" Asbury Park and squeeze the Blacks out! Not my words! Just repeating! I hear it all the time! I really don't have an opinion on where gays choose to live. Don't care! My daughter has gay neighbors and they are warm and caring, which was why I said, "no flames" in my last post! I don't care what you say here, someone will get offended. What I'm trying to say is, don't care what you are, man/woman/straight/gay. I enjoy your posts! > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sharon, Im sorry that you didn't see that I was making fun of A.P > and not the victims of the gulf coast. My heart is breaking for the > people down there. None of us should have to wait this long for aid > in that heat. I apoligize if you are offended. My prayers are with > all the victims of this natural disaster. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Dear Sandy, > > You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of > Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the City! > You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a creep > for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore her > anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and they > will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what happens > when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not the > usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue for > 5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B! She does NOT > speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is > the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome > THEM! > > > > > > Sharon Boone > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your > obligations > > to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our > > waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). > > Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you are, > we > > are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the Gulf > > states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry about > too > > much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There are > only > > a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing > compared > > to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on this > > board). > > Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury Park! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MSNBC TELETHON
Hey Sharon! I guess Kaye will slam down the phone on Katie Curic when she calls him next summer to do a free "Today Show" concert! LOL --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w rote: > Can't have that, huh? > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Singer Kaye West was just cut off the air because he said "George Bush > doesn't care about black people". Did he think he was telling us > something we didn't know already? > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Updated "Who To Blame,"
Dear Rev. Brown, What I was trying to point out is the fact that if sonny boy had acted earlier alot of the suffering could have been avoided. The prisoners should have been bussed before the storm, to prisons elsewhere. Maybe if sonny boy was in DC instead of vacationing in Tx. there could have been a plan and the criminal activities could have been lessen. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/2/2005 5:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:24:27 - > From: "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Who to blame > > What is finally rolling into the disaster area now should have been > ready to roll in there on Tues. Wed. the lastest. > > By the way, I've been a team member for 20 years. > > > > > > > Sandy nothing personal but you seem to forget the jails let every one out on > Monday so they wouldn't drown to death. Instead of being appreciative that > compassion was shown them, they broke into the gun shops and raided them for > machine guns and ammo. > > Then when the entire criminal population of New Orleans was armed for bear. > The rescue crews who attempted to assist the distressed got " freaken shot > at..." > > There you go. Be mad at Bush for not confronting the 4500 criminals at > large with guns face to face. AFterall he is a Texan and has a few guns of his > own. > > I think he should have called Chuck Norris, Arnold Swartznegger and Bruce > Willis and Stallone impressed them into service and heloed in to Battle... > > Matter of fact Sandy it is really my fault... really. > > I was at Mardi Gras a few years ago. I was on a soap box preaching "Christ > to them" as the bible instructs me to do. As I was bringing forth a fiery > message someone threw and hit me in the head with a coconut. If anybody > knows, the coconut is the most coveted prize of the parade. > > Anyway... Instead of demanding retribution for the assault I prophesied a > terrible thing would happen upon those that scorn the innocent in this City. > > So Blame me. > > Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] MSNBC TELETHON
Singer Kaye West was just cut off the air because he said "George Bush doesn't care about black people". Did he think he was telling us something we didn't know already? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Huge Oil Spill
Yeah. You need to slick that hair back, dude. <:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The news is reporting that two giant oil tanks capable of holding > 160,000 barrels of oil are spilling into the Mississippi right now. > Pictures show a giant oil slick. > > They are really having a bad week there. > > I could have used that oil, too. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
I never thought i'd see the day a lawyer was lost for words. It is a brand new day! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'll bet! While the others roll their eyes at me and leer at my > >husband! He's quite a hunk! My husband would never come there. He's > >homophobic and admits it! > > > Oh...my...God Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Why should you embarress your loving family like that? <;~)- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario, since I said "Thank You" for calling me a Dittohead, didn't > that tip you off that I knew what it was? Once again, Thank You! I > wear the Dittohead tag proudly! Mega-dittos, Rush!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Hey Joe, You don't know if im straight or gay, white or black or whatever or if im male or female. Now that I offended you again, I guess you'll go back to the other site and complain about me again. You don't know me. Grow up little man. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 9:11 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote: > >... All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM! > > So now cities belong to specific races of people? Nice way to cooperate there Sharon... Happy to see it's still safe in your world to vilify gays!... You do know that your hero "sandy" is a gay person, right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 9:11 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote: > >... All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM! > > So now cities belong to specific races of people? Nice way to cooperate there Sharon... Happy to see it's still safe in your world to vilify gays!... You do know that your hero "sandy" is a gay person, right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 9:11 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote: > >... All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM! > > So now cities belong to specific races of people? Nice way to cooperate there Sharon... Happy to see it's still safe in your world to vilify gays!... You do know that your hero "sandy" is a gay person, right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Sharon, Im sorry that you didn't see that I was making fun of A.P and not the victims of the gulf coast. My heart is breaking for the people down there. None of us should have to wait this long for aid in that heat. I apoligize if you are offended. My prayers are with all the victims of this natural disaster. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Sandy, > You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the City! You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a creep for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore her anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and they will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what happens when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not the usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue for 5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B! She does NOT speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM! > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your obligations > to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our > waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). > Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you are, we > are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the Gulf > states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry about too > much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There are only > a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing compared > to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on this > board). > Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury Park! > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New Orleans Update
Unfortunately they are being called "refugees" because they are black. Do you think that if they were oil barons sonny boy would only be getting the troops with supplies there today? Four days after the fact! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to know why these people are being called "refugees"? Refugees are non-citizens! They are "evacuees"! There are no Haitians, Puerto ricans or Dominicans like residents here in AP. These people are the descendants of French, Indian, Spanish who "settled" New Orleans in the 1700's! Refugees? NOT! CUBANS are refugees, not native-born citizens who have lived in Louisiana for over 450 years! I am indignant as it is my home town and people are being shuttled like cattle, separated from their babies, just like slavery! I say Impeach Bush and fire that FEMA director! 5 days with no food and water! I survived Hurricane Betsy in 1965 with 5 ft of water in my kitchen downstairs. I survived Camille in 1969, without a scratch, on St. Anthony St., which is now under water. I found out that in 1965 the levee was blasted on purpose in the 9th Ward, which is ALL-Black to save white Metarie, Was the levee blasted this time to get rid of all the Blacks? 500 Black people drowned that night! We are expendable! Can you say, "IMMINENT DOMAIN"? Blacks are real savvy to the dealings of racist whites in the south! There's not too much wool you can pull over thier eyes! The Federal government was asked for funds after a dry run on this type of tradgedy a year ago! The government saud, NO! The money was sent to IRAQ! The 165 year old home of former White Citizens Council Member, trent Lott will be rebuilt, FIRST! New Orleans is 78% Black, Asbury Park is 80% Black. Watch what happens to New Orleans and Asbury Park will be dealt the same, only on a smaller scale! Nothing changes! Spare me your comments! > A Strong Black Woman > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > FROM MY DOMAIN SERVER CREW IN NEW ORLEANS:POSTED BY KEVIN BROWN The Real News > The following is the result of an interview I just conducted via cell phone with a New Orleans citizen stranded at the Convention Center. I don't know what you're hearing in the mainstream media or in the press conferences from the city and state officials, but here is the truth: > > "Bigfoot" is a bar manager and DJ on Bourbon Street, and is a local personality and icon in the city. He is a lifelong resident of the city, born and raised. He rode out the storm itself in the Iberville Projects because he knew he would be above any flood waters. Here is his story as told to me moments ago. I took notes while he talked and then I asked some questions: > > Three days ago, police and national guard troops told citizens to head toward the Crescent City Connection Bridge to await transportation out of the area. The citizens trekked over to the Convention Center and waited for the buses which they were told would take them to Houston or Alabama or somewhere else, out of this area. > > It's been 3 days, and the buses have yet to appear. > > Although obviously he has no exact count, he estimates more than 10,000 people are packed into and around and outside the convention center still waiting for the buses. They had no food, no water, and no medicine for the last three days, until today, when the National Guard drove over the bridge above them, and tossed out supplies over the side crashing down to the ground below. Much of the supplies were destroyed from the drop. Many people tried to catch the supplies to protect them before they hit the ground. Some offered to walk all the way around up the bridge and bring the supplies down, but any attempt to approach the police or national guard resulted in weapons being aimed at them. > > There are many infants and elderly people among them, as well as many people who were injured jumping out of windows to escape flood water and the like -- all of them in dire straights. > > Any attempt to flag down police results in being told to get away at gunpoint. Hour after hour they watch buses pass by filled with people from other areas. Tensions are very high, and there has been at least one murder and several fights. 8 or 9 dead people have been stored in a freezer in the area, and 2 of these dead people are kids. > > The people are so desperate that they're doing anything they can think of to impress the authorities enough to bring some buses. These things include standing in single file lines with the eldery in front, women and children next; sweeping up the area and cleaning the windows and anything else that would show the people are not barbarians. > > The buses never stop. > > Before the supplies were pitched off the bridge today, people had to break into buildings in the area to try to find food and water for their families. There was not enough. This sp
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Shame on you. you know sonny boy wasn't doing nothing for I believe was 9 minutes. He kept making strange faces to the kiddies. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BB... > > I admire your stamina for arguing with someone who most likely > believes Bush "did nothing" for 7 minutes while America was being > attacked 4 years ago. > > By the way...Why is it, when the US was attacked by Japan in 1941, our > first reaction was to attack Libya? That doesn't make sense, does it? > Everyone KNOWS the Libyans had nothing to do with bombing Pearl > Harbor. We should have focused all of our efforts on defeating Japan, > proclaiming victory, and bringing the boys home from the Pacific. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Sandy why call him sonnyboy? Is not every man someone's son? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Com'on there, you know exactly why I call him sonny boy! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sandy why call him sonnyboy? Is not every man someone's son? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
You are oh so wrong! <:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/2/05 3:14 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I liked McCarthy. I Long for the old House Un-American > Activities > > > Committee!!! > > > > > Isn't that what we have now? If you don't agree with everything > this > > president says or does you have been deemed un-american. > > I pay close attention to conservative publications and blogs. I > don't see anyone on our side calling your side un-American. I > constantly see your side accusing us of calling you un-American. > Very curious behavior on your part. Maybe it's some sort of guilty > feeling for your postions? > > > > And with the way this guy has ruined our reputation around the > >world,... > > That's your fault for believing he has. Follow more closely than > the Main Stream Media showing nothing but our few detractors as if > there is no one else and you will find the overwhelming majority of > the world respects us and is on our side. You just have to tune out > of ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN once in a while. > > >I'm kinda happy to be thought of as un-american. As least when the > >dust settles > > I can say I wasn't one of the sheep that followed without really > >paying > > attention to what was going on. > > You start out complaining that people are calling you un-American, > then say you are happy to be un-American. Reap what you sow. > > > We had the ENTIRE world in our corner after 9/11. He blew all of > >that by > > losing interest in the Taliban and trying to finish his daddy's > >war. A war > > that his father knew would turn out like it has today. Guess I > >need to give > > poppy a little credit on this one... > > > George H.W. Bush was leading a UN coalition that operated under an > agreement that said nothing more than get Iraq out of Kuwait. Once > he did, it was over. He had no coalition or UN agreement to conquor > Saddam. However, he went into Iraq anyway, and all the liberals went > ballistic and said he was exceeding his UN authority. They called > him all kinds of names like imperialist, etc. So as not to be over- > thrown, Saddam gave up and signed on to WMD inspections. > > Now flash forward to 2002. Saddam violated 18 resoultions of the UN > for not letting the WMD inspections take place. Under President > Clinton, congress voted for the use of force to oust Saddam and > appropriated money to do it. Bush implements the Clinton plan, and > suddenly you guys aren't for it anymore and are flip flopping on > your suport for his father. > > My side stays consistant. You guys are all over the board. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
To prove how bad things were handled, Cheney is hiding in an un- disclosed location from sonny boy. <:~)- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/2/05 3:14 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I liked McCarthy. I Long for the old House Un-American Activities > > Committee!!! > > > Isn't that what we have now? If you don't agree with everything this > president says or does you have been deemed un-american. > > And with the way this guy has ruined our reputation around the world, I'm > kind happy to be thought of as un-american. As least when the dust settles > I can say I wasn't one of the sheep that followed without really paying > attention to what was going on. > > We had the ENTIRE world in our corner after 9/11. He blew all of that by > losing interest in the Taliban and trying to finish his daddy's war. A war > that his father knew would turn out like it has today. Guess I need to give > poppy a little credit on this one... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
What is finally rolling into the disaster area now should have been ready to roll in there on Tues. Wed. the lastest. By the way, I've been a team member for 20 years. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please then identify for me the equipment and humans the President > is supposed to have at the ready to evacuate hundreds of thousands > of people, spread across three states, who stayed behind to ride out > a cat 4-5 hurricaine, which by the way put left 20 feet of water > over 80% of a city. Is there some compound somewhere where a million > guys are sitting around waiting with a billion dollars in rescue > equipment? Is there any admistration in history who could have > involuntarily moved all those poeple out who stayed? You just aren't > considering the size of the task at hand. No government anywhere > could do anything about this other than what you see being done > right now. Your Bush bashing is really coming at a bad time here. > Instead of complaining why not jump in with the team for once? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > -I am not blaming sonny boy because people stayed behind. I'm > > complaining about his lack of readiness to action after the storm > > had passed. It's a shame that your such a die hard republican > > because you can't see the forest for the trees. <:~)- > > > > - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > -Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane. > > > > I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately > > after > > > > the hurricane passing through the area. > > > > > > > > > If that's the case then you aren't being very fair to him. As > far > > as > > > giving notice to the people, I live in New Jersey and I followed > > this > > > storm everyday on the news way back when it was still > a "tropical > > > depression" without a name. There was about a week to 10 days > > notice > > > of this storm to the people in the South. Then for days people > > were > > > told to evacuate. Then evacuations plans were put into effect > and > > > hundreds of thousands of people did go. You can't blame the > > President > > > for the ones who stayed behind. > > > > > > Response after the storm was as good as it gets. You aren't > going > > to > > > put FEMA or Red Cross workers there before hand and make them > > victims > > > of the storm too. They have to come in after and that is > exactly > > what > > > they did, and have been doing since the moment the storm passed > > over. > > > > > > Of the 43 Presidents this country has had, do you think any one > of > > them > > > had resources (both human and monetary) at the ready to ensure > > that no > > > one got hurt in a category 4-5 hurricaine in the Gulf Coast? > > Surely > > > you don't. > > > > > > Playing politics with the deaths of thousands of Americans would > > make > > > me feel pretty awful. You should reflect on what you are > saying. > > You > > > know there is nothing any President could have done differently. > > > > > > The title of this thread is reflective of the victimology > identity > > that > > > holds someone is always responsible for another's misfortune. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
-I am not blaming sonny boy because people stayed behind. I'm complaining about his lack of readiness to action after the storm had passed. It's a shame that your such a die hard republican because you can't see the forest for the trees. <:~)- - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane. > > I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately after > > the hurricane passing through the area. > > > If that's the case then you aren't being very fair to him. As far as > giving notice to the people, I live in New Jersey and I followed this > storm everyday on the news way back when it was still a "tropical > depression" without a name. There was about a week to 10 days notice > of this storm to the people in the South. Then for days people were > told to evacuate. Then evacuations plans were put into effect and > hundreds of thousands of people did go. You can't blame the President > for the ones who stayed behind. > > Response after the storm was as good as it gets. You aren't going to > put FEMA or Red Cross workers there before hand and make them victims > of the storm too. They have to come in after and that is exactly what > they did, and have been doing since the moment the storm passed over. > > Of the 43 Presidents this country has had, do you think any one of them > had resources (both human and monetary) at the ready to ensure that no > one got hurt in a category 4-5 hurricaine in the Gulf Coast? Surely > you don't. > > Playing politics with the deaths of thousands of Americans would make > me feel pretty awful. You should reflect on what you are saying. You > know there is nothing any President could have done differently. > > The title of this thread is reflective of the victimology identity that > holds someone is always responsible for another's misfortune. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
-Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane. I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately after the hurricane passing through the area. Yesterday he told us we should conserve fuel. So what does he do. Takes a jet and a motorcade for some sight seeing and photo ops. He should practice what he preaches. No politician needs to sightsee an area in order to send help & relief. He should stay in Crawford, where he seems to do the least amount of harm. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. The point to this "nonsense" as you call it is my disbelief that > anyone would blame the President or anyone else for a storm. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a point to this nonsense? > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's > > ineptness.- > > > > > > Sure Sandy. You can say it's all the President's fault. I, of > > course, > > > refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. I couldn't > > > imaging myself politicizing the deaths of so many Americans with > the > > > arguement that a human being controls the jet stream. I know the > > > President is a powerful guy, but the jet stream? > > > > > > Perhaps it's time to take off the tin foil hat. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Is there a point to this nonsense? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's ineptness.- > > Sure Sandy. You can say it's all the President's fault. I, of course, > refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. I couldn't > imaging myself politicizing the deaths of so many Americans with the > arguement that a human being controls the jet stream. I know the > President is a powerful guy, but the jet stream? > > Perhaps it's time to take off the tin foil hat. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
I can't believe how stupid I am. I am so sorry. I thought you were a lawyer but now that your diognosing me, I guess your a doctor. I know that lawyers stoop to name calling but I thought it was above something a physician would do. I don't hate anyone. I don't like alot of this guys mismanagement and lying to you & me to get into a war that daddy lost the first time out. you know he's losing it when he changes the name from "War in Iraq" to "Conflict in Iraq". Unfortunately, no matter what you call it innocent Americans are dying because of sonny boy's lies to the American people. There is no defending that. I'll pray for you, sonny boy, our troops overseas and in our gulf war and esp. for all the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's ineptness.- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sandy you appear to be suffering from what Charles Krauthammer > calls "Bush Derangement Syndrome," which is an affliction caused by > such hatred of the President that one will blame him for anything. > > As I pray for those that were victimized by a hurricane, I'll throw > one in for you! ;-) > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I will blame my government for not being ready to deal with the > > after effects of this disaster known as Katrina. We all saw it > > coming for days.They knew the levees could not withstand a stage 4 > > or 5 hurricane. It was predicted to be a 5 when it hit land. Sonny > > boy reduced the funding to the levee work. > > We knew there would be damage after the storm and that help would > be > > needed. The resources should have been standing by to go into the > > area after the storm had past. You don't call up the Nat. Guard 3 > > days later esp. since most are in Iraq fighting his war. We had > > supplies in the tsunami area quicker than in New Orleans.FEMA was > > always a top rate agency. Sorry to say that between sonny boy and > > Jersey Mickie, it no longer is top rate. > > I have been active in the political process my whole life. I vote > > early and often. > > I think you should take a look out the windows down there in New > > Orleans, looks to me like the black american is still oppressed. > > It's really sad that we see this on our TV's in 2005. I am praying > > for these helpless victims constantly. No human beings should be > > treated like this. God bless you Rev. and keep safe. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If I was to blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large Usama > > Bin Laden. > > > He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of > > America which > > > occurred on September 11 th. > > > > > > He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they were > > nuclear > > > bombs and crash them into our buildings. > > > > > > That event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to > > prevent the > > > repeat of such attacks. > > > > > > Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern of > > every > > > American who was worried about terrorist activity. > > > > > > I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called "Armegedon" In the > > movie broken > > > pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a cab > > driver looking > > > out his window screams; "Sadam Hussien is bombing us!" > > > > > > Today, years later... > > > > > > No other planes have been hijacked and used in a similar manner. > > Thank you > > > Lord! > > > > > > Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord! > > > > > > The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord! > > > > > > Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord! > > > > > > Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just like > > America did > > > in 1776 - 1863. It took us over 80 years to get our act > > together. Yet the > > > opposition wants it done in 4. Please don't forget it took us > > well in the > > > 1960's to stop oppressing our black americans! > > > > > > If you do not like the present Government... Vote against it in > > the next > > > General Election. Until then pick up a tool and start building, > > protectin
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
I will blame my government for not being ready to deal with the after effects of this disaster known as Katrina. We all saw it coming for days.They knew the levees could not withstand a stage 4 or 5 hurricane. It was predicted to be a 5 when it hit land. Sonny boy reduced the funding to the levee work. We knew there would be damage after the storm and that help would be needed. The resources should have been standing by to go into the area after the storm had past. You don't call up the Nat. Guard 3 days later esp. since most are in Iraq fighting his war. We had supplies in the tsunami area quicker than in New Orleans.FEMA was always a top rate agency. Sorry to say that between sonny boy and Jersey Mickie, it no longer is top rate. I have been active in the political process my whole life. I vote early and often. I think you should take a look out the windows down there in New Orleans, looks to me like the black american is still oppressed. It's really sad that we see this on our TV's in 2005. I am praying for these helpless victims constantly. No human beings should be treated like this. God bless you Rev. and keep safe. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I was to blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large Usama Bin Laden. > He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of America which > occurred on September 11 th. > > He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they were nuclear > bombs and crash them into our buildings. > > That event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to prevent the > repeat of such attacks. > > Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern of every > American who was worried about terrorist activity. > > I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called "Armegedon" In the movie broken > pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a cab driver looking > out his window screams; "Sadam Hussien is bombing us!" > > Today, years later... > > No other planes have been hijacked and used in a similar manner. Thank you > Lord! > > Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord! > > The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord! > > Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord! > > Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just like America did > in 1776 - 1863. It took us over 80 years to get our act together. Yet the > opposition wants it done in 4. Please don't forget it took us well in the > 1960's to stop oppressing our black americans! > > If you do not like the present Government... Vote against it in the next > General Election. Until then pick up a tool and start building, protecting and > comforting our fellow Americans, instead of tearing down. > > Don't be a Katrina in human form! > > God Bless America! > God Bless The afflicted! > God Bless the Military! > God Bless The President! > The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat members, the world. > > Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh God! > > Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: SONNY BOY
Just wanted to see how observent you are. Congratulations! <:~)- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I won't take it personally if you just SKIP over my rants. Please > pray for the victims of the hurricane." > How could I? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just think, after two days of vacation & four days of very sincere > > speeches & photo ops, sonny boy will be arriving in the Gulf coast > > today. That means he will get there before all the desparatly needed > > help he has been saying is on the way. Well maybe it's been on the > > way. But on the way to where, Iraq. If it was going there, it would > > have arrived days ago. > > > > Our own Michael Chertoff-head of homeland security, which now > > oversees FEMA. This is the first time in my lifetime( and I won't > > say what that is, he he)that FEMA wasn't in a needed disaster area > > within 24 hrs. And this was a disaster we saw coming for days and > > should have been prepared and justing sitting outside the danger > > zone to move right into action. > > > > God help us if we are hit with another terrorist attack. Sonny boy > > and little Mickey Chertoff will probably hide out in Crawford. > > > > I'm on a roll. I have to rant! More to come. I won't take it > > personally if you just SKIP over my rants. Please pray for the > > victims of the hurricane. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] SONNY BOY
Just think, after two days of vacation & four days of very sincere speeches & photo ops, sonny boy will be arriving in the Gulf coast today. That means he will get there before all the desparatly needed help he has been saying is on the way. Well maybe it's been on the way. But on the way to where, Iraq. If it was going there, it would have arrived days ago. Our own Michael Chertoff-head of homeland security, which now oversees FEMA. This is the first time in my lifetime( and I won't say what that is, he he)that FEMA wasn't in a needed disaster area within 24 hrs. And this was a disaster we saw coming for days and should have been prepared and justing sitting outside the danger zone to move right into action. God help us if we are hit with another terrorist attack. Sonny boy and little Mickey Chertoff will probably hide out in Crawford. I'm on a roll. I have to rant! More to come. I won't take it personally if you just SKIP over my rants. Please pray for the victims of the hurricane. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your obligations to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you are, we are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the Gulf states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry about too much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There are only a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing compared to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on this board). Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury Park! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] SUPER DOME BANNER
When sonny boy arrives in New Orleans this weekend, he will pull up on an army tank, wearing some military gear, and unfurl a banner from the Super Dome.."Mission Accomplished". He couldn't see the sense of only being able to use it just one time. The victims of the hurricane and sonny boys continuous inemptness will start cheering LOUDLY, When they notice that sonny boy is caught up in the banner and sonny boy is dangerously hanging from it. Unfortunately the Army, the Reserves,local & state Police and all frist responders had been order to stay away from the Dome because of the violence surrounding it. JUST HANG IN THERE SONNY BOY MAYBE DADDY WILL COME BY TO SAVE.I DOUBT IT THOUGH. IT WILL BE A BIG ARMY RESEVIST THAT WILL SAVE YOU. AND GUESS WHAT? SHE'S A FULL FLEDGE LESBIEN. DYKE ON BIKE SAVES PRESIDENT WHO'S ASKING NOW SONNY BOY? The reason the local Nat. Guard couldn't respond right away to keep things under control is because all those great people are in Iraq fighting sonny boys war. Did you know he's a War President? Well 0- 2. not a good record even with fuzzy math. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Like father, Like son
You would have thought that sonny boy had learned from his fathers mistakes but NO sonny boy's mistakes are worst than the old mans'. FATHER- Desert Storm Hurricane Andrew SONNY BOY-War in Iraq Hurricane Katrina I think it's appalling that there are still people dying along the Gulf coast. Our Goverment was able to get aid to India & Thiland faster than in our own country. The politicians are all over TV saying aid is on the way. It should have been there days ago. The goverment claims the flooding was keeping them out. How come every newsperson was able to get into New Orleans. This government should be ashamed of themselves but we know they are not. It is so so sad what we are seeing on TV. Four hurricanes in Florida and sonny boy had aid there right away for brother Jeb. Sonny boy says we should conserve fuel. So what is he going to do? Fly down to the disaster areas. Hey sonny boy, stay home,pack your bags in the white house for the last time and save the jet fuel. The price of gas is going to sky rocket even more and guess who will be making more money because of it. The entire Bush clan. Only in America friends, only in America. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Katrina
Unfortunately that's all we are going to have , the way things are going along this coast.<:-( WATCH THE TRAM CAR PLEASE!-just a memory. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/1/05 1:16 PM, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The value of real estate here in Monmouth county is pricing out the > > moms and pops. There are quite a few for sale in Pt and Seaside as > > well. You'd be surprised. Almost everyone has a price tag. Trust me. > > A number of years ago, motels were a ggood buy - not for the guy > > looking to make money from tourists, but from those looking to provide > > housing for the poor or homeless. In AP and even OG, the both > > opportunists toook advantage - the operators and the state/county. > > > > The rest is well documented. > > > > Go to Wildwood - plenty of conversions are stating to creep in as well. > > > > Want a room - go to AC. > > > Gotta say that's a mighty depressing statement. You're probably right as I > see it happening as well. But when tourism is one of New Jersey's strongest > components of the economy and towns like Wildwood have dozens if not over a > 100 hotels packed with people all summer long - it's a depressing thought to > think the state will lose that. > > If AC is our only destination place, it really changes the outlook of the > Jersey Shore and the Jersey Cape regions. I used to love going to Wildwood > for a week when I was a kid. Great boardwalk, incredibly large FREE beach. > That's the perfect tourist place. > > It would really be a shame in my opinion if our memories of places like > Wildwood and the old Asbury Park become nothing more than distant memories > of what New Jersey used to be. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Katrina
It's a crime what is happening in the Wildwoods. When I went there last month I came close to tears. If they want to build condos they should be restricted to the west side of the island which is in dire need of redevelopement. The Wildwoods are unique unto themselfs and should be kept the way they are. If they keep knocking down the cute motels and replacing them with condos, they will lose their tourist trade and we know the p/t condo residents will not support it. The Wildwoods cannot live without it's tourist trade. I just hope the insanity stops.- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The value of real estate here in Monmouth county is pricing out the > moms and pops. There are quite a few for sale in Pt and Seaside as > well. You'd be surprised. Almost everyone has a price tag. Trust me. > A number of years ago, motels were a ggood buy - not for the guy > looking to make money from tourists, but from those looking to provide > housing for the poor or homeless. In AP and even OG, the both > opportunists toook advantage - the operators and the state/county. > > The rest is well documented. > > Go to Wildwood - plenty of conversions are stating to creep in as well. > > Want a room - go to AC. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Katrina
They make enough money in a few months that they are able to close for the winter. There are a few that now stay open year round. Most have nice clean rooms with pools! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/1/05 12:37 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have to agree with Oakdorf. Even though inexpensive motels and > > boarding houses will fill up overnight for a rock and roll show, the > > rest of the year they usually house guys just released from the > > Monmouth County Jail. Cheap little temporary rooms with no security > > depsoit or even a month's rent is all those guys can find to live in > > when they are released. > > > > Just curious... Are the hotels in Point Pleasant filled with criminals after > Labor Day? Anybody know? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things
-CH is Convention Hall. The reference is to the liquor license being used by Asbury Partners at the Tiki Bar. How bout the license for Club Deep? AP Partners said they wanted a family BW and the first thing they did was open two alcohol establishments. But no rides for the kiddies. GO FIGURE! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon G. Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm confused. Who is CH and where is the license or the location? > > > Sharon Boone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- \"oakdorf\" wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > wrote: > > Oak: Actually, Ocean City has condos on top of thier boardwalk > > pavillions. I wish we had them here. The views! The ratables! Year- > > round activity at the beach! > > > You can't be serious. > > Not needed. > > How about cleaning up the entire town before embarking on blocking the > ocean. > > While you're at it, change the name of ocean ave - after all, you > won't be able to see it. (the ocean) > > how'd a liquor licensc that never existed ever wind up at CH anyway, > tom > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Look of Things -- a very strange bird - The problem with Tommy
-Skip's rants are so infantile it shows a strong need for attention. I suggest that as of this message everyone just ignore his posts. You see a post is from him you do not open it. Just go to the next post. This way he is left out of the loop, no one replies to his post and no one gets pissed off by his name calling non-sense. If you reply to anymore of his post that means you agree with his antics. JUST DON'T CLICK SKIP! JUST SKIP SKIP! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ".please let Skip know how you feel about his post below. It isn't fair to > ask me not to do it, but say nothing to Skip and let me take it on the chin > like this when he does it. .so I don't have to get into it with him.. 'You > are not merely a silly ass but a very strange bird.'" > > > > The problem with Tommy, he has a love affair with words; for him the word is > the thing, it is evidence, it is fact and with this belief he can rest > peacefully. I too love words; for me they're tools with which we attempt to > communicate, argue, express emotion and share information, but they are not > fact or evidence and are easily manipulated to trick, lie and deceive. > > > > Words are no more than bits and pieces of language and language is where the > real action lies. > > > > I suspect Tommy believes words to have literal and factual meaning and for > this reason believes the word to be the measure of the man. I believe words > to have temporal meaning at best, to be and have temporary and transitory > significance and to represent only part of what we mean; I think actions > speak louder than words. > > > > I play with words; ideas and meaning primarily because I can and secondarily > because many people manage to get so exercised over their use and abuse. > Language is loaded with mystery and magic for those of us that take or use > it literally; but language is only partially literal, is a tool set > constantly adapting and changing according to its usage and societal > pressure. > > > > Skip Bernstein > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://JerseyShoreRocks.com > > - Original Message - > From: "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:05 PM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird > > > > Dear everyone: If you don't want people getting nasty in these > > posts, then please let Skip know how you feel about his post below. > > It isn't fair to ask me not to do it, but say nothing to Skip and > > let me take it on the chin like this when he does it. Please let > > him know how you feel about such personal attacks so I don't have to > > get into it with him, and you won't have to have your board > > cluttered by it. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> "Those "green spaces" between the pavillions ought to have more > >> pavillions built on them." > >> > >> You really don't like Asbury do you Tommy? You don't like historic > >> buildings, you don't like a view of the ocean and you don't like > >> residents of the city getting fair compensation for the sale of > > their > >> assets. > >> > >> You are not merely a silly ass but a very strange bird. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: "Dirty Joanne" at Parkhill's
Isn't that Joanne in some of the pics taken in Parkhills? http://www.jerseyshoretoday.com/rock/parkhill's.htm --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "Dirty Joanne" joins discrimination probe > Published in the Asbury Park Press 08/19/05 > BY CAROL GORGA WILLIAMS > COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU > LOCH ARBOUR â" An Asbury Park woman is prepared to cooperate in a state > inquiry to determine whether Parkhill's Waterfront Grill committed > discrimination when it labeled customers on bills and credit card receipts. > > Joanne Fordyce, 34, said she has a bill from July 15, 2004, in which she was > labeled "Dirty Joanne" by a server named "Trish." She said she found the > receipt in mid-August 2004 when she changed purses. She and a group of > friends went to the Main Street restaurant and asked General Manager Malia > Wells for an explanation. > > Wells referred them to owner John Parkhill whom Fordyce said "blew them > off." Parkhill died in January, and his brother, Michael, took over. Michael > Parkhill could not be reached for comment. > > On Thursday, after the state Attorney General's Division of Civil Rights > said it was conducting an inquiry into another incident from July 2005 in > which Elliott Stein, 23, of Deal and Brooklyn, was labeled, along with his > girlfriend, Jennifer Cassin, as a "Jew Couple," Fordyce said she contacted > the state. > > "I'm going to be doing an affidavit for them, to help in their > investigation," Fordyce said. > > Peter Aseltine, a spokesman for the Attorney General's Office, said its > civil rights division has no other complaints about Parkhill's on file and > that Stein has not filed a formal complaint. He said the agency was embarked > on "fact-finding" regarding the incident to determine whether discrimination > laws were violated. > > Wells said Wednesday that the "Jew Couple" label was a result of "poor > judgment" on the part of a server who no longer works there. > > Stephen Reid, a restaurant spokesman, said it had been the servers' practice > to use descriptions of diners to identify them on checks, instead of table > numbers, as many establishments do. He said the restaurant now uses a > table-numbering system. > > "It takes the opportunity for mischief away from the servers," said Reid, > who added that Fordyce was a problem customer who had been banned from the > restaurant for more than a year. > > Fordyce denied she had any problems at Parkhill's until the labeling issue > surfaced. > > > The Associated Press contributed to this story. > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ain't that peculiar
-STOP THE PRESSES! This just in! During the dog days of August news is very scarce. But when you have the Parkhills story, why let it die? According to my sources, the reporter from the Post recieved a phone call from a female in Asbury Park. The caller said she also had a reciept from Parkhills with a derogatory discription on it. She had complained directly to the owner but nothing was done about it. The Post reporter met her at 3:00pm to interview her and they took like 30 photos.This women was then meeting the APP for another interview. Who knows, maybe we will have press tents set up like the Michael Jackson trial. This is nothing more than MEDIA OVERKILL!! To further add fuel to the fire the Most Honorable CROOK himself,N.J. Attorney Idiot, Harvey the invisible rabbit, sorry i ment worm, will now have an investigation into this. The guy can't find one crooked politition in this state, even though he is sitting on video(erased? Watergate?) and audio tapes which prove there are many scum polititions in So. Jersey not just in our great county. So folks looks like we'll be hearing about Parkhillsgate for some weeks to come. I'll keep you posted! FILM AT 11:00. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > somebody wrote..." > > Clearly I feel this couple should sue the pants off of > the bar and Karina, it is ashame they had there night ruined and > there dignity and pride bruised, I hope they get TONS!!!" > > > I am sorry, while what the waitress wrote to identify the patrons was > offensive and beyond stupid, > I can't see something like this ruining a night, let alone affecting > ones dignity or pride. > Despite the stark raving mad position of our own legal eagle, > BlueBishop, who flatly stated that racism > doesn't exist in AP, the sad fact is that incidents like what happened > at Parkhills are commonplace. > Hell, I have been with a group of Jewish people who blatantly rip apart > the Syrian Jewish people > WHO VACATION EVERY SUMMER IN DEAL AND OT and NOW WEST LONG BRANCH! > > I have been with a group of Black people who, talking about other Black > people that they didn't like, openly and offensively used > a favored slang word for the black man. You all know that word, it is > now part of the everyday vernacular, most especially among young > Black men. > > My favorite round table discussions though, are when I am with my > Italian friends, of which I have many, most of whose parents > were born and raised in Asbury Park and moved out after the riots. My > Italian friends have very strong opinions on Asbury Blacks. > > But there is no racism in Asbury and there is no vacationing in Monmouth > County. > > But then..., Mr. Bluebishop, who sounds alarmingly like the pseudo > publisher of the Tri City Rag, hits a "homer" when he discusses the > waterfront redevelopment. > I hate to admit that I am in 100% agreement with Skip on the Fishman and > Asbury Partners, however, how anyone can deny that they have gotten the > waterfront RE-development > off the ground is mistaken. Two projects are moving along, one has sold > out, and though a long way from perfect, the boardwalk area looks better > than it has in 20+ years or more. > Now, the true harbinger of whether or not the waterfront plan in AP does > anyone any good is the C8 project. Until that project takes off, while > things are looking good along Kingsley and Wesley, > C8 is the virus that continues to haunt any progress in Asbury Park. > > With all that said, even if C8 was finished and occupied, until Asbury > Partners RESTORES the historic structures on the waterfront nothing > really matters. > And that's where the Black Hole that is Asbury Park is truly located. > Because in the privacy of their dreams and visions for Asbury Park, > Asbury Partners would take ALL the historic structures > including the Stone Pony, Pryor Pavilion and Casino and knock those > structures down and replace them with condos and make boatloads of money > doing so. > Understand that once all those historic structures are restored; once > the mile of Oceanfront in AP is back to being habitable by nice people, > then the real work begins. The work of maintaining those historic > structures, the work of booking the right entertainment that will draw > cash paying customers that can support that maintenance. And once again, > Skip is correct, if Captain Kangaroo, Howdy Doodie > and The 3 Stooges were knocking on their door, Asbury Partners still > wouldn't be able to book a children's show in a restored Paramount or a > restored convention hall. Asbury Partners has no abilities > to run an entertainment complex. They also no nothing about historic > restoration. Hell, they wanted to replace Convention Halls windows with > windows from Home Depot. Those Andersen sliders sure would look good on > Convention Hall, those Copper windows, drech!
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
On what grounds are they going to sue? After the bartender wrote slut(or whatever) on your bill you go back to the place?? Why don't you sue? Or don't you have grounds to sue? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not the first time the staff at Parkhills have acted in > childish ways, I was a victim of their unprofessionalism and > immaturity last year when I received 2 tabs within a month when a > certain bartender wrote a derogatory name after my name ( like slut > and dirty) go figure, on one of the reciepts I even tipped this > server $5.00 on a $9.00 bill, > Do to the fact that they barely had their liquor licensed renewed > and already have pending lawsuits they should learn to behave > appropriatly. Clearly I feel this couple should sue the pants off of > the bar and Karina, it is ashame they had there night ruined and > there dignity and pride bruised, I hope they get TONS!!! > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting Sandy. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews > > have > > > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i > would > > not > > > be offended. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > > > - -- > -- > > > > > --- > > > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey > > Shore > > > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which listed > > their > > > > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > > > > > > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress > at > > the > > > > > > > > > > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ocean City!
-Then Asbury has to be in the top two!!! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > In reference to your comment: > > > Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City right > now. > > > > > Ocean City is #24 in the country for overpriced housing market! > _USATODAY.com_ > (http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2005-08-17-housing- valuations.htm) > > > > > Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: New poll for > AsburyPark Date: 8/17/2005 5:50:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: > Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City right > now. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > youre' kidding me, once again. No oversight?? > > > > YOu'd wind up with Ocean City and no beaches. Be one giant wall of > > condos...look at the bs they played with in the number of > > stories/height of building. > > > > Give them the key? Didn't need it when it wasn't locked. > > > > Jsut hope they manage to complete something. > > > > As far as retail - you'll have no major interest until a % of stuff > is > > done. Lot of space to fill at 450,000 sq ft. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --- -~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page > _Click Here!_ (http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM) > --- -~-> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
-You call that a train. Trains are supposed to be fast. I can ride my bike faster than nj transit! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is > > the same. > > > How about by mass transit? I'd bet it's a lot easier going from Asbury to > NYC than Ocean City to Philly. Maybe they have a bus or two, but we've got > that and the train. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
-Well Tom, I guess I just hate myself to no end. [:-) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sandy said: > > "You get me a copy of the voter registration list from the May > election and I'll show you all the gay home owners that do not vote." > > Careful Sandy!!! Joe D'Andrea, on behalf of New Jersey's Democrat Party > Machine, is about to call you a homophobe! He's about to claim your > comment will lead to actual violence and hate crimes against Gays. > > You can not say what you just said in Joe D'Andrea's America!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
-Which Ocean city? Jersey or Maryland? -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oak I LOVE Ocean City. I WISH Asbury could be like Ocean City right > now. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > youre' kidding me, once again. No oversight?? > > > > YOu'd wind up with Ocean City and no beaches. Be one giant wall of > > condos...look at the bs they played with in the number of > > stories/height of building. > > > > Give them the key? Didn't need it when it wasn't locked. > > > > Jsut hope they manage to complete something. > > > > As far as retail - you'll have no major interest until a % of stuff > is > > done. Lot of space to fill at 450,000 sq ft. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
-He was a man of intelligence? Maybe we should get a few people with it now. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Werner the state runs such efficient offices as the DMV. Ever wait > in line there? > > Government oversight is a joke. We shouldn't even have a CAFRA. > James Bradley had no one to answer to when building AP. How'd he do > it with no government worker to help him along? > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Where we split (I think, I'm not even sure) is that I don't say > > > that they have had 3 years to build because the agreement was > > > signed 10/2002. They couldn't do a thing without CAFRA, and that > > > approval was about 16 months ago. That doesn't even consider > those > > > other layers of government they had to get approvals from. > > > > > > We are both criticizing Asbury Partners; I just think my > criticism > > > is more fair. > > > > Some additional facts to consider before making your conclusions: > > > > It is well known policy that various State agencies, CAFRA > approval, > > etc, needed to be in the loop to gain final appoval of the > > redevelopment plan. The State encourages municipalities with > > redevelopment projects to seek input and review from the > applicable > > State entities at the earliest opportunity to streamline the > > overall approval process. > > > > In our case the plan and contract were negotiated in a vacuum > between > > the City and Asbury Partners with no guidance, input, or oversight > by > > any of the State agencies that everyone knew would eventually need > to > > sign off on the end product. > > > > The delay you are speaking of is the direct result of the City not > > engaging the State at the earliest opportunity. I was in frequent > > contact with my collegues at the State asking every few weeks if > any > > request for assitance or review had been received from Asbury Park. > > The answer was alway no. > > > > Only after the 'Deal' was made between the City and the Partners > was > > any comment asked for from the State. To show you how disfunctional > > the process was, comment was not even sought from internal > departments > > such as Public Works or the Fire Department. Never mind that we > had > > no City Planner or Engineer on staff at the time. > > > > As a result there were delays in approvals because the plan had to > be > > re-examined and changed after the principal parties thought it was > > solid. Had all the 'stake holders' been involved from the > begining, > > final approval would have been much earlier. > > > > This just highlights the fact that the Council had no experiance > in > > redevelopment and were willing to be led by parties that may not > have > > had the City's best interests at heart. Keeping potential critics > of > > what you want to do at bay has been the standard practice of this > > process from the begining. > > > > Timing wise, the City is now suffering from that choice. > > > > Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews have to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would not be offended. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By LEELA de KRETSER > - --- > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey Shore > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which listed their > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress at the > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
-The only thing the election showed was voter apathy. The voters are turned off because of the lack of positive action on the parts of the politicians. Five years after their initial victory the only thing they had to show for it was a new boardwalk and the demolition of the Palace. The people have given up in frustration. You get me a copy of the voter registration list from the May election and I'll show you all the gay home owners that do not vote. They put up AP signs on their lawns even though they don't know the canidates or registered to vote in this city. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tom, what was the voter turnout in %? > > Certainly a great deal higher than the percentage that post to this > board. A much more scientific study of what the people of AP want. > > I know I have a different mind-set about elections. One thing I've > never done in my life is claim that the result isn't what the people > wanted. That seems un-American to me. > > Even in elections where I greatly disliked the outcome, I didn't do > that. I was terribly disappointed about the election of Bill Clinton, > but conceded the moment it happened that it was what the voters wanted. > > In the 1960 election there was every reason for the Republicans to > claim voter fraud in Illanois, the election was stolen, Kennedey was > selected not elected, etc., but no one of my mind-set did. No one > with my mind-set would every do such damage to America or disrespect > its people that way. > > Compare the other mindset. Gore and Kerry are still giving speeches > that they were truly elected. Disprespectful to the American voter. > > I won't argue your point about the voters in AP being duped, or scared > or whatever. I just note that it is disrespectful to them. I don't > allege you intend that in any way; I am simply opining about the > consequences of what you say, intended or not. > > I concede you see it differently and are of another mind-set. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: WE MUST BLEND RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TO
Avon is considered a nice family beach but people only go there for the beach and go home. As for the other two and i may be wrong but some people like hanging out with the elite and they brag to their friends that they go to the beach there. People have been coming to Asbury because of the media. Cheap beach badges and free parking. Once the condos go up so will the beach fees and expensive new parking meters.- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking for some help with this: > > Avon is by far the most crowded and popular beach in the area. Just > packed with people. Looking at the town, they have nothing to > attract tourists. There is one eatery and one store on the > boardwalk. In town there is one restaurant, Columns By the Sea, > which doubles as a nightclub after they serve dinner. There is no > great shopping to speak of. The real estate prices are very high. > > What is the formula that makes Avon work? What makes the beach so > popular and crowded? Why is this little town so great? > > I'm asking the same of Allenhurst and Loch Arbor, which are exactly > like Avon. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/15/05 9:58 PM, "charlie leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > lighty, > > > > > > i thought mog was talking about ocena ave, beasue he mentioned > water front. i > > > wasnt talking about the rest of the town. i dont think the > lack of > > > business in the downtown has anything to do with condos > though. downtowns > > > sometimes go through tough times, and over time, they pick up > again. wasnt > > > there a tiem, when red bank was run down, and bad? > > > > > > > I grew up outside of Red Bank and I can tell you for a fact that > there was > > NEVER as many New Yorkers there on the weekends as there is every > Friday and > > Saturday nowadays. What I¹m getting at is that I would have to > say a good > > part of that town¹s comeback stems from tourism people from > outside the > > area coming to shop, for entertainment, for dining, etc. > > > > I think Asbury Park is going to be disappointed if they try > building a small > > town atmosphere at the shore without a heavy emphasis on tourism. > Tourism > > has always driven the majority of the Shore towns. Of course > there are a > > few towns that have always done well without attempting to attract > the > > tourist trade but they are clearly the minority. If Red Bank had > tried > > building itself back up solely on its own town people it would have > > struggled mightily. I think Asbury will struggle even more > because people > > in many areas of New Jersey just don¹t believe you can live down > here year > > round. > > > > I wonder if they¹ve ever done any studies or projections on how > many of the > > people buying the new condos plan on living year round? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: T-Dube's Ice Cream
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, none of Tom's or his friend's ice cream will be made > > from natural ingredients, it will all be artificially made. Won't > > need to be frozen either. It will gell together just like their b.s. > > Sandy that's not fair. You don't even know my friend! I've known him long before he had a rag sheet. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: T-Dube's Ice Cream
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, Wish You Were Here has Gelatto (check spelling). Kids had some > saturday night. > > I checked into the franchise for Cold Stone awhile back. I think the > Franchise and the fit out of the store was about $300K. I never > checked on any other franchises so I don't know if that is steep or not. > > I bet "Dan & Tom's Ice Cream" would put "Ben and Jerry's" out of > business. Liberal Lime, Conservative Coffee, Independent Slush. > Interesting flavours. > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > On 1st Saturday I ran into a client on Cookman. He reminded me > that > > 3 > > > years ago when I settled a case for him, I begged him to invest the > > > money by opening an Ice Cream Parlor on Cookman. He was kicking > > > himself in the rear on Saturday for not listening. > > > > > > I'd love to see a Cold Stone. Best ice cream I've ever had. > > > > Tom, doesn't "Wish You Were Here" sell ice cream? How about Ben & > > Jerry's? Want to go partners? Unfortunately, none of Tom's or his friend's ice cream will be made from natural ingredients, it will all be artificially made. Won't need to be frozen either. It will gell together just like their b.s. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: asbury got the blues
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First night in AP appeared to be an overwhelming success as there were > > plenty of people walking the downtown streets, lots of entertainment. I > > can't help but wonder why Cookman Ave is left open for vehicular > > traffic? > > Why weren't the streets closed? I remember the first few 1st nights having > the streets open for people to walk around and it made the night special. > Plus I think more people walked around ALL of town in those early 1st nights > rather than simply hang out on Cookman. > > Anybody know why the cars were allowed? Maybe there was alot more vehicular passing through and not enough pedestrian traffic to warrent the closing. We don't close off streets just because there is some pedestrian traffic, once a month. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
