Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
kjetinho wrote: > Is the InguzEq still working on the latest versions of LMS? Mine has > stopped working. I'm running 7.9.4 on Windows and pretty sure Inguz EQ is still working. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Is the InguzEq still working on the latest versions of LMS? Mine has stopped working. kjetinho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42755 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I've collected all the Inguz resources into 4 posts in new thread. (I thought it might get lost in this very long thread.) It includes updated installation files for Windows and Ubuntu, links to the updated files, together with Inguz documentation. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109921-Inguz-EQ-DRC Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Replacememt "InguzDSP.exe.config" for LMS 7.9.2 (Sox 14.4) When Inguz is used for DRC, if the sampling rate of the previously selected impulse filter doesn't match the sampling rate of what is being played - Inguz uses Sox to resample the impulse filter. For example, if the impulse filter is 44.1kHz and one plays a 96kHz file, Inguz will resample the impulse filter to 96kHz. To do this Inguz uses, by default, the Sox "polyphase" parameter. This is no longer supported by Sox 14.4 (installed by LMS 7.9.2). As a result, when using LMS 7.9.2/Sox 14.4, the resampling will fail and DRC will drop out. The original -InguzDSP.exe- can be used with an amended -InguzDSP.exe.config- file which includes a new "soxFmt" entry: Code: -(I did a test build of -InguzDSP.exe- which used an updated the Sox command line. _That_is_no_longer_needed._)- First save the existing "InguzDSP.exe.config" file to a safe place, as a backup. Copy the unzipped file to: Windows 7 C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\ Ubuntu \usr\sbin\ For Ubuntu, set the file as executable by: Code: sudo chmod +x \usr\sbin\InguzDSP.exe.config *** Please note: the above Ubuntu file location is that specified in the original Inguz installation guide. NOT that suggested by W0153R in an earlier post in this thread. If you have used W0153R's installation guide you will need to modify the above accordingly. *** There was a bug in the Sox originally included in the Windows version of LMS 7.9.2. This was corrected in the December 10, 2018 (1544453860) nightly. This bug only affected Windows installations and would have prevented any resampling at all by Sox. So, if you are on Windows LMS 7.9.2 prior to December 10, 2018 (1544453860) it might be a good idea to install the current nightly. I have also updated the "InguzDSP.exe.config" secion in the Inguz Documentation pdf file that I posted in an earlier thread. The updated Inguz Documentation and all the other files I have recently posted here can be downloaded from: https://app.box.com/s/0iohpwgqnuiztmsd3y5g2dxqug4wdvq8 26272 Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB, Once more you are absolutely correct. Test Signals aren't in the Web Interface, but on my pCP they are there! Maybe an opportunity for a short note in Italics in the Help PDF ? A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirruna, I'm using iPeng on an iPad at the moment and there the Test Signals are under EQ/Setting/Test Signals. Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB, Again many thanks for putting this together. However, re-reading the "Help" after all these years reminds me that somewhere along the way the Settings sub menu and Test Signals have disappeared from all my installations. Were these part of the original install files or did the plugin generate them? A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I've attached a revised version of "Index.html"
Changes:
These concern the Web interface (when using Internet Explorer) - now
fully operational.
- "Save preset" button displayed - many thanks to bobertuk
- "Up" buttons now work properly
- Removed the help links. These used to fail, disconcertingly, because
the Inguz website is no longer active.
I've also created a pdf file which contains the very helpful information
that would have been displayed if the above links had been active (many
thanks to bobertuk for providing an Inguz archive). It also contains
some additional thoughts from myself (shown in italics) mainly on
Flatness.
Please back up your existing Index.html file to a safe place before
proceeding.
Locations for Index.html:
Windows 7
C:\Program Files
(x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ\HTML\EN\plugins\InguzEQ\
Ubuntu:
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/HTML/EN/plugins/InguzEQ/
On Ubuntu - set permissions
("squeezeboxserver:nogroup" is probably correct for the owner:group but
it is worth checking your own installation.)
Code:
sudo chown squeezeboxserver:nogroup
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/HTML/EN/plugins/InguzEQ/Index.html
Please let me know if there are any problems.
26264
26265
+---+
|Filename: Inguz Settings Help v2c.pdf |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26265|
+---+
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB, Thank you for the updated plugin, playing radio now as AAC. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I've updated an Inguz.pm file with the entries in the previous post. There are no guarantees but I have tested them as far as I can. The attached zip file contains the following: _custom-types.conf_ Change: deleted the entry for "aap" - no longer required _Plugin.pm_ Added/updated the following entries for both 24 bit and 16 bit player sections: aac - new entry aap - deleted - replaced by the aac entry alc - (Apple Lossless) earlier version is broken - updated to to work with more up to date versions of LMS mp4 - new entry (for mp4 and m4a containing aac) spt - new entry (for Spotty plugin) Changed FLAC compression level to "0", as used in LMS convert.conf file. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY UPDATED YOUR OWN PLUGIN.PM TO SUIT YOUR OWN REQUIREMENTS YOU SHOULD CHECK WHETHER THIS VERSION WILL CAUSE YOU PROBLEMS. THE INDIVIDUAL ENTRIES ARE SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUS POST. IN ANY CASE: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE BACKUP COPIES OF YOUR OWN INGUZ PLUGIN.PM, INGUZ CUSTOM-TYPES.CONF AND INGUZ CUSTOM-CONVERT.CONF _Installating:_ Stop LMS *** First copy the existing Inguz Plugin.pm, custom-types.conf and custom-convert.conf to a safe place, as a backup (See below for folder locations.) Unzip the file and copy the contents to: Windows 7 64 bit: C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ\ Ubuntu: /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/ Using terminal: set ownership of the files: sudo chown -R squeezeboxserver:nogroup /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ Delete the existing Inguz custom-convert.conf (_in_the_above_folders_). Inguz will automatically regenerate a new custom-convert.conf file from the templates in Plugin.pm when LMS is restarted. Restart LMS If you encounter any problem with the new Plugin.pm: restore the backed up versions and please let me know. 26242 +---+ |Filename: Plugin.pm.18-12-13-jb.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26242| +---+ Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I've been looking at the Inguz Plugin.pm and custom-convert.conf and
have come up with the following amendments.
Save a backup copy of your Plugin.pm and custom-convert.conf before
proceeding.
To edit Plugin.pm you will probably need an editor that supports LF line
endings, such as Wordpad on Windows.
Stop LMS before editing.
If you are using the original Inguz Plugin.pm:
- Replace the existing aap entry with this aac entry (the aap entry is
no longer required):
- Replace the existing alc entry with this updated alc entry (for Apple
Lossless) - the orignal alc entry is broken:
- Add mp4 entry (for mp4 and m4a containing aac)
- Add spt entry for Spotty Spotify plugin
If you have previously edited the Plugin.pm for your own requirements
you can pick and choose.
Plugin.pm entries:
Code:
aac flc * $CLIENTID$
# IF
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [$CONVAPP$] -id "$CLIENTID$" -wav -wavo -d
24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
alc flc * $CLIENTID$
# FT:{START=-j %s}U:{END=-e %u}
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $START$ $END$ $FILE$ | [$CONVAPP$] -id "$CLIENTID$"
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs --totally-silent -0 --ignore-chunk-sizes -
mp4 flc * $CLIENTID$
# FT:{START=-j %s}U:{END=-e %u}
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $START$ $END$ $FILE$ | [$CONVAPP$] -id "$CLIENTID$"
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs --totally-silent -0 --ignore-chunk-sizes -
spt flc * $CLIENTID$
# RT:{START=--start-position %s}
[spotty] -n Squeezebox -c "$CACHE$" --single-track $FILE$
--disable-discovery --disable-audio-cache $START$ | [sox] -q -t raw -b 16 -e
signed -c 2 -r 44.1k -L - -t wav - | [$CONVAPP$] -id "$CLIENTID$" -wav -wavo
-d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent --ignore-chunk-sizes -
custom-convert.conf entries:
Code:
aac flc * 00:04:20:23:09:e3
# IF
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id "00:04:20:23:09:e3" -wav
-wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
alc flc * 00:04:20:23:09:e3
# FT:{START=-j %s}U:{END=-e %u}
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $START$ $END$ $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id
"00:04:20:23:09:e3" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs --totally-silent -0
--ignore-chunk-sizes -
mp4 flc * 00:04:20:23:09:e3
# FT:{START=-j %s}U:{END=-e %u}
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $START$ $END$ $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id
"00:04:20:23:09:e3" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs --totally-silent -0
--ignore-chunk-sizes -
spt flc * 00:04:20:23:09:e3
# RT:{START=--start-position %s}
[spotty] -n Squeezebox -c "$CACHE$" --single-track $FILE$
--disable-discovery --disable-audio-cache $START$ | [sox] -q -t raw -b 16 -e
signed -c 2 -r 44.1k -L - -t wav - | [InguzDSP] -id "00:04:20:23:09:e3" -wav
-wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent --ignore-chunk-sizes -
Important: replace "00:04:20:23:09:e3" with the MAC address of your own
player(s).
To regenerate the Inguz custom-convert.conf file from an updated Inguz
Plugin.pm.
- Stop LMS,
- save a backup copy of the Inguz current custom-convert.conf file, just
in case.
- delete the current Inguz custom.convert.conf
- restart LMS
- Inguz custom-convert.conf will be regenerated
I will roll these up into a revised Plugin.pm and include it in another
post.
Please let me know if you encounter any problems.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirrunna, I'm not sure why AAC doesn't play (as opposed to AAC+) when you set up Inguz custom-convert.conf with a valid aap entry. However, there is probably little point in investigating when there is already a working solution for playing AAC and AAC+ via Inguz. Just drop the "aap". Incidentally, I might be wrong but in your second pic of the filetypes I wouldn't expect AAC to go through Inguz without "Native" and "faad/flac" disabled - though that would probably depend on the player. By the way, as far as your earlier post is concerned (the one I commented on) it would be a good idea to add a qualification otherwise it might be unfair on someone who happens on your post unaware of the issues. Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
For completeness, here is uVBox with the InguzEQ plugin removed playing the same radio station File Format:AAC Bitrate:64kbps CBR (Converted to 705kbps FLAC) Sample Rate:48.0 kHz URL:http://live-radio01.mediahubaustralia.com/2FMW/aac/ Title:Classic FM NSW and File Types +---+ |Filename: File Types no Inguz.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26216| +---+ A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I just fired up another Vortexbox, named uVBox, edited the InguzEQ plugin aap line in sub template_FLAC24 Code: aap flc * $CLIENTID$ # IFT [faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id "$CLIENTID$" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent - No other change - i.e. left custom-types.conf alone. Restarted Squeezebox server, then in the web gui I selected one of the players attached to my standard Vortexbox and switched it across and tried a radio station and it played as aac+ . Loaded my "Transistor Radio" Inguz preset and the station played (sounding dreadful) proving that the Inguz plugin is doing its thing. Interestingly, radio stations appear to play as either aac+ or mp3, I could not get a radio stream to play aac. Checking Settings/File Types showed aac and aac+ (see first attached image) and the radio station details File Format: AACplus Bitrate: 64kbps CBR (Converted to 705kbps FLAC) URL: http://live-radio01.mediahubaustralia.com/2FMW/aac/ Title: Classic FM NSW Now on my other Vortexbox updates yesterday as discussed above, File Types show aac only, no aac+ (see second image) radio station details File Format: AAC Bitrate: 64kbps CBR Sample Rate: 48.0 kHz URL: http://live-radio01.mediahubaustralia.com/2FMW/aac/ Title: Classic FM NSW Got me fooled ! +---+ |Filename: file types aac.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26213| +---+ A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB, I welcome your constructive review of my enthusiastic but incautious update of the plugin. I regard this thread as a peer review of code (I was an assembler programmer for 10 years back in the 1970s before moving into management). The problem I was attempting to solve was that aac radio streams wouldn't play with Inguz as installed. Having commissioned several new pCP players recently I felt it easier to update the template rather than entries for each player in custom-convert.conf So, where to from here ? Should I delete the zip file from my earlier post ? I agree that someone more qualified than me should update the known non working code in the plugin. I look forward to testing it. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirrunna, Thanks for that. This is going to sound like nit-picking of the highest order - and I apologise for that. A few words of caution though. We are in a situation where many people using Inguz have probably updated their Plugin.pm and custom-convert.conf (which is re-generated by Plugin.pm) for their own particular requirements. (For example the "alc" section in your Plugin.pm is broken.) If your new Plugin.pm is used "as is" it might well knock out something else that has been previously tweaked. The zip file contains: install.xml custom-types.conf Plugin.pm They all have CRLF line endings which might possibly cause problems with non-Windows sytems such as Ubuntu, etc. The original files had LF line endings and I think it is best to maintain that for compatibility. install.xml The only change in this is to the version number. While it is obviously a good idea to have version numbers, in the current situation where no one person is responsible for Inguz and where various people are making their own amendments to Plugin.pm, etc changing version numbers might get confusing - just a thought. custom-types.conf You have changed the "aap" entry to "aac". In my experience there is no need for an "aac" entry in the Inguz custom-types.conf as it already specified in the LMS "types.conf". The "aap" entry becomes redundant but does no harm. Plugin.pm See my earlier comments. It might be a good idea for someone to try to pull together a Plugin.pm which contains the necessary corrections and additional entries that people have made over the years and to have that as a reference. However, that is much easier said than done but I will try to do a bit of research over the coming week (unless someone else would like to do it). In the mean time I think it is probably best to give people the choice of replacing the Plugin.pm (the other files are not really necessary) or editing the entries in their existing files. Edit with Wordpad or an editor that supports "LF" line endings. _Plugin.pm_ In the last section headed "# transcode for 24-bit FLAC output (sb2, sb3, transporter)" (This is at the end of the file.) Replace the aap entry with: Code: aac flc * $CLIENTID$ # IFT [faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id "$CLIENTID$" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent - _custom-convert.conf: _ The aap entry would be replaced by: Code: aac flc * XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX # IFT [faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id "XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent - (Where "XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" represents the player's MAC address) Of course, edits to the Inguz custom-convert.conf file will take immediate effect once LMS is restarted. BUT the Inguz custom-convert.conf file will eventually be overwritten with a re-generated custom-convert.conf file from the entries in Plugin.pm, e.g. if Inguz is de-enabled and then re-enabled in the LMS Plugins, etc, etc. Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
A few months ago I noticed that AAC internet radio streams would not play at all if I had the InguzEQ loaded. This was explored in this thread https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109437-AAC-Transcoding-help-needed. JohnB solved my problem with an AAC setting for custom-convert.conf. I have updated the InguzEQ plugin to correctly generate the entry for AAC streams in custom-convert.conf and also updated the custom-types.conf to reflect the aac changes. The computer systems manager in me insisted on updating the plugin's version number to identify the change. Attached is a zipped file containing the install.xml, plugin.pm and custom-types.conf . To install, stop squeezebox server, replace the existing files and restart. I just untick the EQ plugin on the Settings/Plugins screen, restart the server without EQ, update the files then re-install the EQ plugin. +---+ |Filename: Plugin.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26203| +---+ A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Glad that it worked - and glad to have helped. Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wow - this just worked, easily. Thank you! Running on Windows 10 Pro... rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Sorry this is a long post. I've combined the instructions for Windows installation into this one post. *MANUAL INSTALLATION FOR WINDOWS* *INSTALLING THE PLUGIN* The plugin is the user interface: it lets you control filter functions from the Squeezebox remote control. To install: Download the plugin from: http://inguzaudio.com/EQ/download.php Unzip in the Logitech Media Servers Plugins directory. You should end up with a folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ\ containing the plugin file Plugin.pm and a few other supporting files. Stop and restart the Logitech Media Server. Open the Logitech Media Server web interface, select Settings -> Plugins. Verify that the EQ plugin is checked. On a Duet: using the remote control, select the EQ menu (under Extras) or on a Touch use the Touch screen. You will see a message indicating that the server must be restarted. Stop and restart the Logitech Media Server a second time. *INSTALLING THE FILTER PROCESSOR* The filter processor is the engine: it processes audio files as they are played, and sends the processed audio to your Squeezebox or Transporter. To install the processor: Download the filter processor from: http://inguzaudio.com/DSP/download.php Unzip in the Logitech Media Server C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\ folder. Youll see a few new files, including InguzDSP.exe, in the folder. *INSTALLING UPDATED PLUGIN.PM, INDEX.HTML* The original plugin.pm is not compatible with Perl 5.22 or higher so I amended the file. Download an updated Plugin.pm from the bottom of this folder: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77084-RC-(Inguz-etc-)=903072=1#post903072 On Windows 7 64 bit, copy the Plugin.pm file to folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ\ bobertuk did a fix in* index.html* for the missing text 'Save Preset' in the button in the web interface when using Internet Explorer. Download an updated index.html from the bottom of this post: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77084-RC-(Inguz-etc-)=903072=1#post903072 On Windows 7 64 bit, copy the new index.html to folder: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ\HTML\EN\plugins\InguzEQ\ *GETTING STARTED* STARTING THE PLUGIN LMS may not recognize the plugin immediately when its installed. Then, when the plugin is first used, it needs to write some configuration information. The first time: Restart LMS. From the LMS web interface, select Server Settings -> Plugins. Verify that the EQ plugin is checked. Verify that the Plugins menu or the EQ plugin are active on the player. If you have a Duet: Using the remote control, select the EQ menu (under Extras). If you have a Touch: use the Touch screen. You will see a message indicating that SqueezeCenter must be restarted. Restart LMS a second time. Check the LMS/Settings/Advanced/File Types that the InguzDSP options are enabled. RUNNING Now the plugin and filter processor are installed, you should be able to play music. From the Duet remote control or Touch screen, etc, you can configure the plugin and change equalization settings. For room correction, you need to create and install room correction filters. After playing the first track, check that theres a file Log.txt in the application data folder (C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\). This is the filter processors log file, and you should read it occasionally to check that the filter processor is working properly. More detail about the log file can be found below. LOG FILE When the filter processor runs, it writes information into a file log.txt, which you can find in the InguzEQ folder. On Windows 7 64bit, this is in C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\. You can read this log file with a text editor. No updates in the log? If you play music but there are no updates in the log file, first check that the LMS file types are selected properly (see the installation instructions for details). A TYPICAL LOG For each track played, you should see a series of lines in the log, like this: 20070104235906: InguzDSP (version 0.9.12) -wav -d 24 -id 00:04:20:10:01:ae -r 44100 20070104235906: 00:04:20:10:01:ae This evaluation version will expire 6/1/2007 12:00:00 AM 20070104235906: 00:04:20:10:01:ae Gain -16 dB 20070104235906: 00:04:20:10:01:ae Impulse Impulses\Normal.wav, matrix MatrixImpulses\Space.wav 20070104235906: 00:04:20:10:01:ae EQ00323806D3 20070104235907: 00:04:20:10:01:ae 16/44100 PCM => 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20070104235921: 00:04:20:10:01:ae 232:The pipe is being closed 20070104235921: 00:04:20:10:01:ae 1802240 samples, 14609.375 ms, 2.7379679144385 * realtime, peak -6.6932641448126 dBfs The number at the start of each line is a timestamp: in this case, 2007-01-04 (January 4th), 23:59:06. The
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB wrote: > Installing Ingush on W7 is fairly straight forward (I am using Inguz on > W7 with LMS 7.9.x as well as on Ubuntu). I haven't installed it on W10 > but I will dig out the W7 instructions. > > Of course, if you are using Inguz for DRC everything depends on the > quality of the measurement and filter generation. The instructions for installing Inguz on Windows would be very much appreciated. I will probably also try to do DRC again, but I think I can figure that out as the process of making the filters presumably hasn't changed... rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Installing Ingush on W7 is fairly straight forward. I haven't installed it on W10 but I will dig out the W10 instructions. Of course, if you are using Inguz for DRC everything depends on the quality of the measurement and filter generation. Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Does anyone by any chance have a guide for installing Inguz on Windows 10 / LMS 7.9.x? I haven;'t used Inguz since LMS 6.x, but would quite like to get it going again... rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I have compiled a new build of InguzDSP.exe which overcomes a potential
problem with later versions of Sox and which I am currently testing. I
will provide a link to it when I am convinced there are no issues with
it (it certainly seems to work fine, but it is early days). In the mean
time, if anyone would like a copy of the file please send me a PM. (I
don't think I am infringing any copyright issues as Hugh Pyle has made
the source code available.)
The background:
There is a potential issue with DRC when Inguz uses SOX versions after
14.3.
When doing DRC Inguz checks the sampling rate of the file being played
with the sampling rate of the selected filter and, if they differ, it
uses SOX to resample the filter to the file sampling rate. For example,
if you have selected a 44.1kHz filter file and then play a 96kHz file,
Inguz will use Sox to resample the 44.1kHz filter file and create a
96kHz filter file.
The potential problem with this is that Inguz uses a SOX command that
was removed from Sox version 14.4 (i.e. the "polyphase" option). It was
already deprecated in Sox 14.3 but still usable.)
If Inguz cannot resample the filter file the audio files plays, but
without any DRC.
This would only affect people when Sox 14.4 is installed. Even then it
is possible to get round the issue by getting Inguz to use Sox 14.3
instead or switch filter files when one selects an audio file with a
different sampling rate. However, perhaps that is less than ideal.
The Sox command line that Inguz uses is hard coded in InguzDSP.exe.
Luckily Hugh Pyle has made the source code available and I have
recompiled InguzDSP.exe with a Sox compliant command.
Original line 86 in program.cs:
Code:
static string _soxFmt = "\"{0}\" -r {1} \"{2}\" polyphase";
which generates Sox command:
Code:
Sox input_file -r new_sample_rate output_file polyphase
Replacement line 86:
Code:
static string _soxFmt = "\"{0}\" \"{2}\" rate -v -I {1}";
which generates Sox command
Code:
Sox input_file output_file rate -v -I new_sample_rate
Touch, Meridian G92, Bryston B4 SST2, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant
Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
W0153R excellent tutorial. Your procedures also work with Vortexbox 2.4 A recent thread in the Klipsch forums showed how to use REW (Room EQ Wizard freeware) to measure your room and calculate Parametric Equalizer (PEQ) settings. https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/167089-using-rew-to-find-parametric-equalizer-peq-settings/ Some time ago Darren Yeats pointed out that Inguz " EQ presets can be defined separately from the EQ GUI plug-in. There is an xml file for each preset which you can configure by hand to have an indefinite number of EQ bands. On Linux the preset files live at /usr/share/InguzEQ/Settings/. " http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=51994.0 reply #18 So we should be able to use REW to create PEQ settings and then build a working preset. Here is an EQ conf for a preset I call Transistor Radio, a great preset for testing if EQ is working after installing Inguz - Transistor Radio.preset.conf 0 0 0 -20 -20 0 -20 -20 0 10 You can see it is a 5 band equalizer with -20db bass cut, flat at 1000Hz and -20db treble cut, sounds just like an old tinny pocket transister radio. It is simple to modify a .preset.conf, and after selecting the modified preset Inguz will show the response in the graph in the GUI. I have found that Inguz EQ is not just a software parametric equalizer, rather it appears to draw a line between points, so that if you want to equalize a bump in your speaker's response, then define the frequency at start of the bump with a zero, the bump peak frequency with a negative db number and the frequency where the response is flat with a zero - 0 -10 -12 0 These entries will build an EQ curve flat to 850Hz, -10db at 900Hz, -12db at 950Hz and flat from 1000Hz REW makes measurement simple by its ability to output a measurement sweep including the timing reference signal as a .wav file. This is done in the REW Generator function - select "Meas. Sweep", click the WAV icon and tick "add timing reference signal", set the WAV sample resolution and record the sweep. Convert the WAV to flac, use MP3Tag to add a title and add the track to your LMS library. So with our REW measurement Sweep complete with timing reference saved as a track in LMS, we can select the REW measurement function , make sure that the measurement sweep is set to what was recorded in the previous step (20 to 20,000 etc) and that the "Wait for timing reference" box is ticked and play our sweep through a squeezebox and measure the system response. Make sure that Don't Stop the Music or SpiceFly SugarCube is disabled. You will probably have to play the measurement sweep adjusting the volume several times until you have a good volume level. You can now use REW to calculate the PEQ settings and either edit an existing preset.conf or copy and rename an existing preset.conf and edit the new settings into the file. In the LMS GUI, go to Extras / Inguz EQ make sure that the settings file created/edited earlier is selected. Then play the sweep through the Squeezebox and measure with REW, the timing bleep will trigger REW to start measuring. This way the effect of the Inguz EQ settings can be measured and verified. This sequence can be repeated until you are happy with the equalisation. I use WinSCP to edit the .preset.conf file in /usr/share/InguzEQ/Settings/ All that is left is to figure out where to place the microphone in the room .. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
CLIPPING InguzDSP creates a few files in /usr/share/InguzEQ/, after you've set up Inguz there are 2 files of interest: error & log.txt. You can check for errors with: Code: cat /usr/share/InguzEQ/error It should give you no output at all. The file log.txt can get big and we're only interested in the latest data so we'll use 'tail' to just give us the end of the file and print any new information as it comes in: Code: tail -f /usr/share/InguzEQ/log.txt If there's clipping going on, it will print 'CLIPPING+' or 'CLIPPING-' and something along the lines of: Code: 20180105181413: 01:53:01:53:01:02 2387377 samples, 404442.711 ms (1610.266 init), 0.1335 * realtime, peak 0.865 dBfs We're only interested in the last bit, the peak-value, a peak > 0 means clipping. The log will also contain the following information: Code: 20180105181939: 00:04:20:16:cd:70 24/96000 PCM => 24/96000 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB Once again, we're only interested in the last bit, the gain, if you're experiencing clipping you should adjust it. In the above example a gain of 1dB lower would already prevent the clipping. To adjust the clipping enter the following in a terminal: Code: sudo nano /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/i386-linux/InguzDSP.exe.config RESAMPLING By default InguzDSP will turn off when LMS needs to resample (except for MP3 & OGG-files). I've added extra profiles to Plugin.pm that allow for resampling and even upsampling. There are 4 extra profiles in there: template_FLAC24_resample: allows for resampling when necessary and spits out 24bit FLAC's template_FLAC16_resample: allows for resampling when necessary and spits out 16bit FLAC's template_FLAC24_upsample192 and template_FLAC24_upsample96: upsampling to respectively 24bit/192kHz and 24bit/96kHz InguzDSP uses 24bit filters and all processing is done in 24bit, template_FLAC16_resample turns it back into 16bit after the processing is done. On line 3596 of the attached Plugin.pm you'll find 2 extra if-statements checking for the squeezebox-model, you should adjust here if you want to use a certain profile. I've got a Receiver (which can playback 24bit/48kHz) so I've got it setup to apply the FLAC24_resample-template when the modelname equals 'receiver', and I've got a SqueezeLite-box with a soundcard that can only do 16bit/48kHz so I've got that setup to use the FLAC16_resample-template. You can find the model-name of your device on LMS-settings page. If you've already got InguzDSP set up, replacing the Plugin.pm-file and restarting LMS twice should take care of the settings but you might have to delete the file 'custom-convert.conf' in the same folder (/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/) before restarting. +---+ |Filename: InguzEQ_Plugin.pm_resampling.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24300| +---+ W0153R's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
bobertuk wrote: > Well... not so much a correction but a possibility - which I haven't > tried for Inguz. Have a look at... > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip > > Just in case the URL doesn't link correctly... > > Code: > > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip > > > > > It's a method for getting MusicIP to run on a RaspberryPi and with > modifications other ARM boards - I had it running well on XU4. MusicIP > is like Inguz in that it's Intel only. I tried at one time to get > Inguz running on an Intel machine with Ubuntu but couldn't get it to > work although I do know other forum members have been successful. > > Maybe with a little work something similar to the MusicIP/ARM install > will get Inguz to work on ARM. > > Bob > > PS > I went from Ubuntu 16.04 on XU4 -> Windows 10 on Intel-NUC simply > because of audio software availability. The Win 10 setup means I can > use Inguz, MusicIP is much easier to use and is more flexible, and > some audio software is only available for Windows. I found I was > constantly switching between Ubuntu, macOS and Windows to do different > things and it became a real pain! Its a shame because I like the XU4 > and Ubuntu! Thanks again for all the info Bob, much appreciated.unfortunately no luck with Inguz on the XU4 or a RPi3 :( gegen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
gegen wrote: > Thanks very much Bob, got me on the trail again :) when I've got some > time I'll "have a go" as they say and if successful will let you know. > > Regards, > > Mike. And absolutely the XU4 and LMS is a great solution if you can overcome the stuff you rightly point out...superfast and in my experience super reliable...months here without touching anything, just works. Regards gegen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
bobertuk wrote: > Well... not so much a correction but a possibility - which I haven't > tried for Inguz. Have a look at... > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip > > Just in case the URL doesn't link correctly... > > Code: > > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip > > > > > It's a method for getting MusicIP to run on a RaspberryPi and with > modifications other ARM boards - I had it running well on XU4. MusicIP > is like Inguz in that it's Intel only. I tried at one time to get > Inguz running on an Intel machine with Ubuntu but couldn't get it to > work although I do know other forum members have been successful. > > Maybe with a little work something similar to the MusicIP/ARM install > will get Inguz to work on ARM. > > Bob > > > PS > I went from Ubuntu 16.04 on XU4 -> Windows 10 on Intel-NUC simply > because of audio software availability. The Win 10 setup means I can > use Inguz, MusicIP is much easier to use and is more flexible, and > some audio software is only available for Windows. I found I was > constantly switching between Ubuntu, macOS and Windows to do different > things and it became a real pain! Its a shame because I like the XU4 > and Ubuntu! Thanks very much Bob, got me on the trail again :) when I've got some time I'll "have a go" as they say and if successful will let you know. Regards, Mike. gegen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
gegen wrote: > Hoping someone is going to correct me on that one :) Well... not so much a correction but a possibility - which I haven't tried for Inguz. Have a look at... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip Just in case the URL doesn't link correctly... Code: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip It's a method for getting MusicIP to run on a RaspberryPi and with modifications other ARM boards - I had it running well on XU4. MusicIP is like Inguz in that it's Intel only. I tried at one time to get Inguz running on an Intel machine with Ubuntu but couldn't get it to work. Maybe with a little work something similar to the MusicIP/ARM install will get Inguz to work on ARM. Bob PS I went from Ubuntu 16.04 on XU4 -> Windows 10 on Intel-NUC simply because of audio software availability. The Win 10 setup means I can use Inguz, MusicIP is much easier to use and is more flexible, and some audio software is only available for Windows. I found I was constantly switching between Ubuntu, macOS and Windows to do different things and it became a real pain! Its a shame because I like the XU4 and Ubuntu! 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
gegen wrote: > Thanks for the info, having done some further searching on various audio > forums it would seem that the InguzDSP part of the plugin will not work > with arm processors, shame. Hoping someone is going to correct me on that one :) gegen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
bobertuk wrote: > Hi gegen, > > Glad the pages helped. I tried getting Inguz to work on XU4 but like you > could never get it going properly. I went on to try out Brutefir and got > EQ working but could never get Room Correction working. In the end I > went over to Intel-NUC with Windows 10 and Inguz works as intended with > a few restrictions but nothing that prevents full use. Thanks for the info, having done some further searching on various audio forums it would seem that the InguzDSP part of the plugin will not work with arm processors, shame. gegen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
gegen wrote: > Hi bobertuk > Thanks those pages really helped. > Noticed you're using an XU4 with ubuntu 16.04, same here, would love to > get inguz running on that setup but haven't had much luck. Did you > manage to get it working on the XU4? > I got the plugin installed with the web page control working and file > types in LMS showing inguz but no sound unfortunately, I had assumed it > might be because of the arm processor. Hi gegen, Glad the pages helped. I tried getting Inguz to work on XU4 but like you could never get it going properly. I went on to try out Brutefir and got EQ working but could never get Room Correction working. In the end I went over to Intel-NUC with Windows 10 and Inguz works as intended with a few restrictions but nothing that prevents full use. 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
bobertuk wrote: > If anyone is interested attached is a zip file containing all of the > Inguz web site pages and content from 2015 which I downloaded it from > the 'Wayback Machine' one page at a time. The page URL links don't link > through to the other pages so each page needs to be looked at > individually but it may be useful. > > 23649 > > Bob Hi bobertuk Thanks those pages really helped. Noticed you're using an XU4 with ubuntu 16.04, same here, would love to get inguz running on that setup but haven't had much luck. Did you manage to get it working on the XU4? I got the plugin installed with the web page control working and file types in LMS showing inguz but no sound unfortunately, I had assumed it might be because of the arm processor. gegen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
If anyone is interested attached is a zip file containing all of the Inguz web site pages and content from 2015 which I downloaded it from the 'Wayback Machine' one page at a time. The page URL links don't link through to the other pages so each page needs to be looked at individually but it may be useful. 23649 Bob +---+ |Filename: Inguz Web Site.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23649| +---+ 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Bob,
That information is extremely interesting and very useful - thank you
for all your investigations.
I'm intrigued by your description of the Flatness control, in which I
assume you are quoting Hugh Pyle ("Inguz").
It says "often a flat target can sound thin and, well, flat".
Many people (perhaps most) using DRC don't actually use flat targets but
ones based to some degree on the B and similar curves, which are flat
to 500Hz, 1000Hz, etc (depending on the curve) and then gently drop
away, on the basis that these sound more subjectively "flat" than a flat
target.
However, I suspect that isn't really what the explanation of the
Flatness control means.
My filters are generated by Acourate and the resulting sound, using
Inguz DRC is anything but thin and "flat" - quite the opposite, the
sound is full, even and with depth. But then it depends on what was
meant by "flat" - dull?, smooth? lacking in depth? lifeless?
I suppose the sophistication of the software used to generate the DRC
filters (together with the parameters used when generating the filters)
are critical to the end result when using Inguz (or similar DRC
"engines") and I am very happy indeed with the sound with the Flatness
left at 10.
I find the Inguz DRC (together with the Acourate generated filters) is
extremely worthwhile. We all have different approaches to these things
but I only use the DRC functions and leave the other settings off, on
the basis that very often "less is more".
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I've found a fix for the 'Save Preset' button... Replace Inguz plugin 'index.html' line 592 with... Code: original index.html line 592 Code: If you run Inguz on a Windows PC (Windows 10 in my case) you can activate all the up/down buttons in iexplorer 11 by first running LMS, then press F12 ((Developer Tools), then just close down the developer tools window. All the up/down buttons should then work correctly. I have also found meanings of some of the Inguz settings... Quietness: "Quietness" is "loudness". Quietness zero means "flat"; quietness 10 means a loudness-curve EQ that boosts the bass and treble. This is a very subtle loudness control compared with some. Also there's a fundamental limitation to this architecture where your loudness change might not take effect for many seconds, due to the SB's buffering. Width: "Width" controls the stereo image width, by up to +/- 6dB (-6 is not mono). Note that increasing the width doesn't apply crossfeed to spread the image beyond the speakers, it just attenuates the middle compared with the side. Flatness: "Flatness": DRC creates a correction filter against its target curve (flat, by default), but often a flat target can sound thin and, well, flat. So my flatness filter looks at the frequency response of the correction filter and inverts it, over ten steps; theoretically so that with flatness=0 the in-room response is relatively unchanged from the uncorrected version (correcting for phase and reflections but not correcting peaks), and with flatness=10 the in-room response should be really quite flat.. Flatness 10 should give the "flat" in-room response. Skew: The Inguz skew control should be set to compensate for any discrepancy in the straight-line distance from tweeter to ear. At 44.1kHz sampling rate this equates to 22.68s of time delay per sample or about a third of an inch (7.7mm) of distance. This is ONLY true at this one sampling rate, so if you play material at different rates it only works for some of them. Enhanced Stereo Filter: Can be used: "To increase spatial separation between channels. The various Space filters broaden the stereo image in a normal system to well beyond the loudspeaker positions, enhancing the they are here feeling. I've been experimenting with Inguz quite a lot but I can't find any of the 'Enhanced Stereo Filter' files. Does anyone have copies of them stored anywhere? If so, would it be possible for you to PM them to me or attach them here. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirrunna wrote:
> Bob and John,
> ...
>
> In an earlier life I spent 10 years writing IBM Assembler, so I had a
> look at the plugin code in
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ,
> strings.txt contains the character string that appears on the Inguz
> screen with each string's variable name, so
>
> PLUGIN_INGUZEQ_SAVEPRESETFILE EN Save current settings as:
>
> is what to look for in Plugin.pm - while that is easy to find I
> couldn't work out what drew the clickable box.
Wirrunna,
I remembered reading something on the forum years ago about this so I
looked back at some of the old Inguz threads. Phil Leigh (where has he
gone!) mentioned this way back in 2011. He refers to an edit in the
Inguz plugin 'index.html' code to correct the clickable box. He attached
the corrected file to one of his posts but it was so long ago that the
attachment has been archived off.
Does that help? I took a look at the file and there's what I think is an
HTML commented line and an associated function. The code starts at line
#155 and is as follows but in copying here indents are lost...
// Save-As Preset
function savp(el)
{
if(!el) return;
var sType = el.id.substr(el.id.indexOf("_")+1);
var sval = "";
var ctrl = document.getElementById("edt_"+sType);
if( ctrl )
{
sval = ctrl.value;
}
var setfn = "Set" + sType;
if(typeof(_model[setfn])=="function")
{
_model[setfn]( sval, true, function(bOK){highlightSetting(el,
bOK)}
);
}
}
To me the code is almost meaningless so I'm of no help but you may find
something. Phil Leigh did!
Bob
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1 x Radio
1 x Boom
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Does anyone know what the various Inguz settings are for? There are obvious ones of course, EQ and Balance for instance. But others are not so obvious and most of the Inguz website isn't accessible so it isn't possible to gather the information from there. JohnB was kind enough to explain what 'Flatness' is for. So, what are the following for and/or what do they do? Any others that you know of? Quietness Width Enhanced Stereo Skew Ambisonic Decoder Ambisonic Rotation Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
For those running Linux, remember that BrutefirDRC works also... Not much of a fancy UI compared to Inguz but has worked stably for me with Acourate room filters in LMS. http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2016/03/howto-logitech-media-server-brutefirdrc.html Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Wirrunna, I found the "|" earlier and discovered that it saved the profile. In my attempts to get the graphical EQ display working I discovered a Silverlight installer for Mac - silverlight needs activating through Safari security preferences. That got the EQ display working and the save button appeared in place of "|" on the latest LMS 7.91 nightly. I have an old desktop PC running with Windows 10 installed and found the same on that with Safari. Thank you for looking at the Inguz code. The problem I have at the moment is that I can't get the up/down buttons working - some do some don't. I'm sure it's an issue with the HTML code but my coding skills are poor to say the least. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Bob and John, I have spent some time looking at the Plugin.pm and strings.txt to see if I could figure out what the problem saving a preset is. First I installed LMS 7.0 on an old PC and loaded the Inguz plugin - see first screen pic - , look at "Save current settings as:" , there is a box that when clicked will save the settings and flash a light green colour over the text. The second screen pic from LMS 7.9.1 shows the same area of the screen but instead of a clickable box there is a "|" - however, clicking carefully will flash the light green and save the text, no need to go to iPeng, Orange Squeeze etc. Try it. In an earlier life I spent 10 years writing IBM Assembler, so I had a look at the plugin code in C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ, strings.txt contains the character string that appears on the Inguz screen with each string's variable name, so PLUGIN_INGUZEQ_SAVEPRESETFILE EN Save current settings as: is what to look for in Plugin.pm - while that is easy to find I couldn't work out what drew the clickable box. +---+ |Filename: Inguz on LMS 7.9.1.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23426| +---+ A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Bob, As far as I know REW can measure the loudspeaker/room frequency response but it can't, on its own, produce the correction files for Inguz. I have seen some mention of the REW measurements being used in other packages to create the correction files but I confess that I am not up to speed with what free software there is around that will create the correction files. The correction files that I use with Inguz are 32bit wave files - though they seem only to contain a pulse when looked at in an audio editor. The correction files go in /usr/share/InguzEQ/Impulses. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Wirrunna, tried looking at the YouTube video but it doesn't seem to exist anymore :( I managed to find IE on Windows 10 as well and as long as silverlight is installed, as you say the graphical display is there. I have iPhone 6 with iPeng but can't find any way to use it to set up EQ or to save anything. Any ideas? John, I'm going to have a closer look at REW to see if there is any way to export RC and import into Inguz. What file type does Inguz require, .wav, .pcm or what? And what folder does that file go into? I don't really want to spend out on Audiolense or Acourate without knowing that I can actually get a RC file into Inguz and establish that it works; i.e. that it does indeed change the character of the sound. 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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John, thank you for the Plugin.pm file, that did the trick - I must have broken the version I edited. Bob, http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?87506-Inguz-drc-eq-plugin-working is the link to the utube I will try an install onto another Vortexbox and update the install document. Just tried Orange Squeeze, the test signals are all there ad at least left/right identifier works. Will try more. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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I don't want to put anyone off and I am sorry if this is overkill or not appropriate for the forum, but I thought it might be useful to post an example of the DRC correction filter creation process using Acourate. These are a few screen shots of one of the versions I did. It is for my main speakers, without sub. 1. The measured response. (That "combing" isn't at all unusual) 23389 2. Amplitude preparation - i.e. a smoothing of the measured response. There is a trade off - the more accurately this follows the measured response the more restricted and narrow the listening position is. Acourate allows you to adjust how accurately it follows the measured response (Audiolense has 3 settings which do the same), but this is Acourate's recommended setting - a best compromise. 23390 3. Target prepartion. This shows the target curve (in black) after I prepared it, against the curves used to calculate the DRC filters. 23391 4. Filter generation. This is Acourate's simulation of the DRC result with the filters it has generated for that target and the amplitude file. It includes the target curve. 23392 +---+ |Filename: 4-simulated result 800.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23392| +---+ Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Bob, As you know, the GUI has been a problem for many years - one the rare occasions I need the GUI I use IE. As far as DRC is concerned, the correction impulse files, and how they are created, are critical. I might be wrong but I don't think REW creates these. There was a basic method that was described in the original Inguz instructions. I seem to remember that there was a Youtube video which someone did to demonstrate how to do this, so it might be worth looking for this. I did have a go using it but didn't get very far. For more control over the filter creation process there are two software packages that people have used (see below). They are expensive but they do give good results. The basic procedure is: - measure the room response (using a microphone and soundcard) - display the room response and create a target response - run the software to create the correction filters to use with Inguz - copy the correction filter wave files to the Inguz Impulses directory. In practice it is an iterative process - and people try different targets in order to get a final response which they feel is the most pleasing. Why not use a flat straight target? Well that doesn't necessarily work best for many people. One thing worth mentioning: sometimes a room will have a deep null (or near null) in the bass region - no DRC (or amplifier) can correct that. It will be caused by the room modes and the only solution is to move the listening position. I found that one incidental benefit of setting up DRC is that I had to start to scanning the room frequency response and that made me think about loudspeaker and listening positions. As a result I moved things around to make the frequency response smoother even before DRC. These are the software packages that were available a few years ago when I started looking at DRC. I use Acourate, Phil Leigh (who posted a lot on Inguz) used Audiolense. I have no idea to what extent they are currently being developed and there might be other options these days: AUDIOLENSE This comes in two versions: _Audiolense_2.0_ (165 Euro) - a more basic version which is very easy to use but has limited options. However this will be fine for most people with a stereo system. _Audiolense_XO_ (390 Euro) - a more advanced version with cross over design, etc, etc. Probably overkill. There is a trial version which enables you to create a corrected wave file that lasts 90 seconds, but you can't save your work. One advantage of Audiolense is that the room measurement is done within the main package, so you can see the result immediately. ACOURATE This costs 340 Euro. It is chock full of options which the non-expert will find totally confusing. However, once you get over the initial feeling of panic and follow the basic instructions it isn't so frightening. There isn't a trial version, but you can use download the measurement program for free and use that to measure the room response, send the impulse files to the developer together with a music clip of a few minutes and he will send you back a corrected version of the music clip. In either case - I'm not sure of the usefulness of the test files. They give some indication but, as I said, getting to a good result depends on trying various targets. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
John & Wirrunna Using Johns commented instructions I have Inguz working on an Intel-NUC which seems to have more than enough CPU power to run Inguz. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. John, I just followed your instructions to the letter, apart from having to modify permissions a little. The biggest problem was getting the EQ GUI working - initially I tried installing a silverlight lookalike for Linux called 'pipelight' in the hope of being able to get the GUI running direct in a web browser on Ubuntu. No luck, just couldn't get it to run in either Chrome or Firefox. So I downloaded silverlight for Mac and after activating it in Safari it works fine - well, the GUI anyway - connecting through Safari to the NUC on port 9000 is all that's needed. The adjusters (up and down buttons) for EQ work but most of the other adjusters, e.g. 'Quietness', do nothing. I seem to remember reading about this problem years ago and if I recall correctly, it was something to do with the version of silverlight being used, an earlier version being required. Could get it functioning on Windows 10 with IE and Safari (but not Edge) but still the same issue with the adjuster buttons. I seem to recall there was a way of getting those buttons to work but for the life of me I can't remember how. I get sound out of the speakers and changes to EQ changes the sound produced so in principle it's working. Except I don't have a clue how to get room correction up and running. I have REW and a USB calibrated microphone but don't know what file types to export from REW or where to put them in Inguz. I know that information was on the Inguz website but it's no longer accessible. There's a whole raft of threads on this forum about Inguz and I'm sure the information could be sifted out but I'd be grateful for any help here. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirrunna wrote: > No luck getting Inguz going on Vortexbox 2.4 running on Fedora 23. > Server log > [17-08-09 12:51:52.5694] Slim::bootstrap::tryModuleLoad (286) Warning: > Module [Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin] failed to load: > Can't locate object method "looppackage" via package > "Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin" (perhaps you forgot to load > "Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin"?) at > /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/Plugin.pm line 1. > Compilation failed in require at (eval 900) line 1. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 900) line 1. > > /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/ is no longer used, the > plugin is at /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ but with my > limited knowledge of Linux I don't know where this is set. The directories and paths you quote are those applicable on Ubuntu (Debian). Actually, as far as I understand it, -/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/- is a soft link to -/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ-. You say you are running Fedora. I know very little about it but, from what I can gather, there are similarities between Fedora and Redhat. The Inguz installation guide for Redhat differs from the Debian installation in that it uses different paths to the installation directories. So you might want to look at the Redhat installation instructions. In the Plugin.zip that you posted in #393 there are the original Inguz instructions for Redhat in file "inguz audio » Installation on Red Hat linux.htm" (when Plugin.zip is unzipped the instructions are in the Plugin/InguzEQ folder). A few points: - In the instructions, you will need to change "slimserver" to "squeezeboxserver" where it occurs in the paths, e.g. "-/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/InguzEQ-" becomes "-/usr/local/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ-". - The instructions refer to SlimServer - this, of course, is now LMS. - Inguz requires mono to provide Windows Net 2 support. When I installed Inguz on Ubuntu I was very green and had problems with mono. In the end I installed mono-complete (sudo apt-get install mono-complete) which is probably a gross over-kill - there is almost certainly a more elegant solution. - The instructions mention restarting "SlimServer" (i.e. LMS). In Ubuntu the terminal command for this is: -sudo /etc/init.d/logitechmediaserver restart- but I'm not sure whether it is the same in Fedora. I rebooted my Touch and restarted LMS a few times. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
This is a copy of the InguzEQ plugin.pm that I edited. Details of the edit are documented in the file, just after the original version history, though, of course, the line number of the edit will now have changed because of the lines I added to describe what I did. There are absolutely no guarantees that my edit is correct or successful, but it doesn't throw up any errors on my Ubuntu system and it seems to work OK. I've had a quick look at the InguzDSP.zip file that you uploaded. The installation directories shown in setup files are different from those used in the Debian (or Ubuntu) installation - possibly because you are using Fedora(?). The Inguz plugin.pm in your zip file seems to be the last one that Hugh Pyle issued and is the one that I have successfully used in Ubuntu 14.04 (which uses Perl 5.18) and then edited to amend the deprecated code. +---+ |Filename: Plugin.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23387| +---+ Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
No luck getting Inguz going on Vortexbox 2.4 running on Fedora 23. Server log [17-08-09 12:51:52.5694] Slim::bootstrap::tryModuleLoad (286) Warning: Module [Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin] failed to load: Can't locate object method "looppackage" via package "Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin" (perhaps you forgot to load "Plugins::InguzEQ::Plugin"?) at /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/Plugin.pm line 1. Compilation failed in require at (eval 900) line 1. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 900) line 1. /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ/ is no longer used, the plugin is at /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins/InguzEQ but with my limited knowledge of Linux I don't know where this is set. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
John and Bob A little more digging around and I found an original Vortexbox script to setup Inguz (setup-Inguz master), and a much modified script that I used (setup-Inguz). These can be inspected using Wordpad on a windows box. Also I found clean Inguz install files. The previous files I uploaded contained a couple of Inguz filters that I used, including one called Transistor Radio which when selected made my Klipschorns sound like a tinny little radio - just to prove that Inguz was working. I recall that to get the web interface for Inguz working a later version of Silverlight was needed, but OrangeSqueeze on Android could build filters and save them. When Inguz first came out it would use 50% of CPU power on a single core Athlon 64, but these days it uses just a few % of one core on a Pentium. John, I'll try to make the change to the .pm file, but if you could attach a copy of the working one it would be much appreciated. +---+ |Filename: InguzDSP.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23384| +---+ A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB wrote: > Notes on the installation of Inguz on Debian sent. John, May I trouble you for a copy, I will attempt to get Inguz going on a Vortexbox 2.4 on Fedora 23. I stopped using Inguz when it crashed due to Perl updates. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Bob and John, Attached is a zip file with the windows install instructions, the inguz pm and a couple of files from when I had inguz running on a Vortexbox. In usr_share_InguzEQ\InguzEQ\temp I had to delete all the filter and json files to fit. Hope this helps. +---+ |Filename: usr_share_InguzEQ.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23383| +---+ A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Notes on the installation of Inguz on Debian sent. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB wrote: > Sure, I'll do that - but first I need to hunt out my notes and make sure > that they make sense (you know how it is when you write notes for your > own benefit). It will take a day or so. Thank you. No problem about how long it takes. > > Are you hoping to use it for DRC or for Equalization? (I use it for DRC > and have only used the Equalization to test things are working.) > I intend to try using Inguz for DRC and equalisation if I can get it to work. > > There are a few things worth pointing out: > > - I see from your signature that you are using Ubuntu 16.04. My > understanding is that this uses Perl 5.22. The InguzEQ plugin.pm uses a > deprecated expression at one point and that will probably cause fatal > error with Perl 5.22 or higher. It only gives a warning on earlier > versions of Perl (I am using Perl 5.18 and it works "as is"). The > correction is quite simple (fingers crossed) - see my recent post on the > subject in the Developers section of the forum. (No, I am certainly not > a developer!) > Yes, with this version of Ubuntu Perl 5.22 is used. I'll take a look in the developers forum now to see what needs changing. > > - If you are using the Web Interface on a PC, the Inguz control panel > doesn't work in Firefox but is fine in IE. I use iPeng on an iPad to > control Inguz, and that works reasonably OK. So, I'm not sure how things > will appear with any particular browser on your Ubuntu machine. (As my > Ubuntu server is headless, on the rare occasions I need to use the Web > Interface I use IE on my Windows PC to access the Ubuntu LMS.) > I generally use Chrome or Safari but I'll try out IE if neither of those work. > > - You might want to edit the Inguz custom-convert.conf file at some > point, say to add a mp4 section or to correct the outdated ALAC section, > etc. I mostly use flac and occasionally mp3 but I'll keep this in mind. Thank you for replying and your time in looking out your notes. It's much appreciated. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Sure, I'll do that - but first I need to hunt out my notes and make sure that they make sense (you know how it is when you write notes for your own benefit). It will take a day or so. Are you hoping to use it for DRC or for Equalization? (I use it for DRC and have only used the Equalization to test things are working.) There are a few things worth pointing out: - The InguzEQ plugin.pm uses a deprecated expression at one point and that will probably cause fatal error *_if_* you are using Perl 5.22 or higher. It only gives a warning on earlier versions of Perl (I am using Perl 5.18 and it works "as is"). The correction is quite simple (fingers crossed) - see my post on the subject. - If you are using the Web Interface on a PC, the Inguz control panel doesn't work in Firefox but is fine in IE. I use iPeng on an iPad to control Inguz, and that works reasonably OK. So, I'm not sure how things will appear with any particular browser on your Ubuntu machine. (As my Ubuntu server is headless, on the rare occasions I need to use the Web Interface I use IE on my Windows PC to access the Ubuntu LMS.) - You might want to edit the Inguz custom-convert.conf file at some point, say to add a mp4 section or to correct the outdated ALAC section, etc. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB wrote: > The download pages for InguzEQ and InguzDSP are still there (you need > both), but there aren't any links to them from the front page. > > InguzEQ: http://inguzaudio.com/EQ/download.php > InguzDSP: http://inguzaudio.com/DSP/download.php > > BUT, the installation instruction pages are not accessible. This is a > major problem as the installation procedure is critical. > > A few years ago I successfully installed Inguz on both a Windows 7 PC > and on Ubuntu Server > > I made my own copy of Hugh Pyle's instructions for installation on > linux. The instructions were slightly out of date, so I amended my copy > as I installed Inguz on Ubuntu. > > As I remember the Windows installation instructions were much simpler, > though by no means obvious. (I think I can remember them well enough to > install Inguz on Windows). > > By the way, an earlier post suggests that there is a need of a revised > plugin.pm to make Inguz work. That was the case at one time but the > installation files I downloaded worked fine without any tweaks. I think > Hugh Pyle had updated plugin.pm to deal with the Perl code that had been > deprecated. > > There are a few issues with Inguz - most of which have a work-around - > but I won't go into that now (probably too much information). Hi John, I'd like to install Inguz onto Ubuntu (on an Intel machine) so your amended instructions would be invaluable. Is it possible you could send me a copy? 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
The download pages for InguzEQ and InguzDSP are still there, but there aren't any links to them from the front page. InguzEQ: http://inguzaudio.com/EQ/download.php InguzDSP: http://inguzaudio.com/DSP/download.php BUT, the installation instruction pages are not accessible. This is a major problem as the installation procedure is critical. A few years ago I successfully installed Inguz on both a Windows 7 PC and on Ubuntu Server I made my own copy of Hugh Pyle's instructions for installation on linux. The instructions were slightly out of date, so I amended my copy as I installed Inguz on Ubuntu. As I remember the Windows installation instructions were much simpler, though by no means obvious. (I think I can remember them well enough to install Inguz on Windows). By the way, an earlier post suggests that there is a need of a revised plugin.pm to make Inguz work. That was the case at one time but the installation files I downloaded worked fine without any tweaks. I think Hugh Pyle had updated plugin.pm to deal with the Perl code that had been deprecated. There are a few issues with Inguz - most of which have a work-around - but I won't go into that now (probably too much information). Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
The Inguz website http://inguzaudio.com is partially down and seems to have been like that for some months. The front page is still there but when trying to drill down to the installation pages there are only errors. Does anyone know of any other way to access the full site? 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Phil Leigh wrote: > Please find attached a zip file containing: > plugin.pm - now applies Inguz for WMA and AAC playback to avoid jumps in > level between flac/mp3 and wma/aac playback > > index.html - fixes preset save bug in Inguz web UI > > my custom-convert.conf file as a GUIDE! > > Please note SOX is not used for WMA and AAC (there's no point). > > Remember to restart SBS after ANY changes to custom-convert.conf. > > Please enjoy entirely at your own risk :-) > > Cheers > Phil Hello guys, do someone have the Revised plugin.pm to let inguz work? makemebad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
On 64 bit Windows 7 the Inguz presets (i.e. equalization presets, etc) are in C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\Settings. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB to the rescue again. Thank you. blscorp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65189 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Where are the EQ presets stored? I would like to delete and/or rename some of them and can't find them in the Inguz related directories, nor do I see corresponding entries in the .conf files Thanks. blscorp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65189 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
PS that's LMS 7.7.5 on Windows 7 blscorp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65189 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Apple has been monkeying with security settings and a user no longer has permissions to write to the usr directory except usr/local; but Inguz is setup to use /usr/share. In order to use the Inguz plugin post El Captian, you need to install the filters into 'usr/local and provide permission for writing to that directory: sudo chown $USER /usr/local/InguzEQ/ The plugin.pm document also must be amended to /usr/local so the plugin knows where the filters are. Be sure to use another text editor than the OSX TextEdit.app since this application causes me problems with charcters. I attained success with wordpad and you could also use MSWord or a freeware variant. I made an alias of the InguzEQ folder that is placed in usr/local and put it on my desktop for verifying correct operation in the log and adding filters easily. Good luck! scintilla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
My Inguz installation no longer can access the directory set up for the filters and logs, as the SIP took away the user/share structure and I no longer have permission to md in terminal. I gather that I can make a new directory that is allowable, either under a specific profile or something. Do I just need to mod the .pm file? Is there another directory structure I can user for all users? TIA scintilla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Forgive me if this is covered ground, though I did search this thread
(and many others) with every keyword I thought might give me the answer,
with no luck.
I'm running LMS 7.7.5 (the last "official" release?) on Windows 7 with
two Duet Squeezebox players. I don't need RC, just the EQ, and I can't
get any audible variation from EQ adjustments. The UI is properly
installed, the DSP is installed and appears to be running in processes,
LAME is installed, I can view and adjust the EQ settings in Web Control
under Extras, but no audible effect.
My library is mostly MP3's and some Apple Lossless. In file types, I
see no "InguzDSP" option available for any Stream Format under Apple
Lossless ("faad/sox" instead). Under MP3, "lame/InguzDSP" (the
irony...) appears under four iterations of FLAC Stream Format, but not
for the MP3 Stream Format, which offers "Native" or "Disabled." Am I
just out of luck with these file types?
I've gleaned that with some intimidating-sounding editing of conf files
some have gotten Apple Lossless to work, one thread even seemed to
indicate you could limit the processing to just one player (ideal for my
situation). But I have yet to actually hear the plug in work, so I'm
trying to crawl before I walk. Mp3s are the bulk of my library so I
tried choosing "Disable" for the MP3 Stream Format to see if that would
force them through one of the Inguz enabled options, but still can't
hear the DSP.
I've put in enough time and it seems close enough that I'd like not to
give up, so thanks in advance for a push in the right direction. And
sorry again if I missed the obvious answer somewhere in the haystack.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Archimago wrote: Thanks for the notes guys... Appreciate the knowledgeable input based on experience! Sounds like quite the undertaking to graft the DSP processing in. philippe_44: you may not consider yourself an audiophile, but I do think there are many kinds of audiophiles. And you're the kind that this hobby needs more of! Thanks :o LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Thanks for the notes guys... Appreciate the knowledgeable input based on experience! Sounds like quite the undertaking to graft the DSP processing in. philippe_44: you may not consider yourself an audiophile, but I do think there are many kinds of audiophiles. And you're the kind that this hobby needs more of! Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Archimago wrote: Sounds like quite the undertaking to graft the DSP processing in. One way of doing parametric EQ (better than nothing) in LMS would be to have extra sox commands with lots of filter parameters in custom-convert.conf. Those parameters might not be so difficult to change with a simple GUI. Yes, it's dirty but necessity is the mother of dirtiness. Best Regards, Gandhi not often enough well recorded and mastered cds *|* dbpoweramp with accuraterip *|* flac *|* fanless asrock z77e-itx intel i5-3570t *|* ubuntu 12.04.1 lts 32-bit *|* lms 7.8.0 *|* brutefirdrc 3.0 (rewv5) *|* transporter (balanced out) *|* thule ia252b *|* audio physic scorpio *|* no fancy cables. *+* also some booms. *+* harmony 525s for them all, including waking the server from s3. Gandhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Julf wrote: Technically it shouldn't be that hard. Unfortunately that means that while the algorithms might be copyable, none of the code is. And the algorithms aren't really rocket science anyway - again a case of yes, the easy 10% is done, now it is just the 90% of hard, boring work. :-/ Lesson? Please don't use platform-specific languages/tools/libraries Yep, that's exactly the point. Building the walls of a house is reasonably easy quick although it *must* be very well done if you want it to last, but all the finishing takes forever :) LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Archimago wrote: Interesting this discussion about Inguz after all these years and the link between this and the other discussion regarding the future of digital audio and DRC... -How I wish there was a way to integrate the DSP engine (eg. Inguz) into LMS itself.- A way to have access to EQ (maybe just a simple list format to enter some parametric data or likewise simple graphic EQ adjustments), room correction, channel balance, upsampling, right into the Player Audio settings. No need for Silverlight for adjustments. Compatibility with all architectures (of course more powerful CPU needed for complex processing). Due to the issues such as the ones in this thread, I've been doing things the long way. Whitebear Server to link LMS library to JRiver via DLNA/UPnP. Then using the JRiver 20 DSP engine to process the DLNA stream with room correction filters and sending out to my Transporter. It works, is reasonably stable. But has all the deficits of DLNA/UPnP and is inefficient. I would imagine this as the next evolutionary step for LMS for the technical / audiophile crowd. Has anyone done work on this? I see that the source code for Inguz is available on github as Visual C# files so the algos are already out there for someone who knows what they're doing :rolleyes:. I've experienced that for a LMS plugin to get enough interest, you must make it available on various platforms, Window, Linux x86 *and* ARM and some Atom and also to a lower extend OSX x86. Took me a lot of effort to do that despite I started from various elements that were already multi-platforms. Inguz seems to (I'm not using it so I might be wrong) be written in C# and fully dependant on msft 'stuff'. You can try to use mono, but I'm not sure how well it would work. So just to say that is sounds to me like a lot of work to re-do the integration into a generic LMS system. Other than that, you can stream directly from LMS to JRiver with the plugin I've done :) (although I'm struggling currently with a flac issue for JRiver, but you can use PCM) LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Interesting this discussion about Inguz after all these years and the link between this and the other discussion regarding the future of digital audio and DRC... -How I wish there was a way to integrate the DSP engine (eg. Inguz) into LMS itself.- A way to have access to EQ (maybe just a simple list format to enter some parametric data or likewise simple graphic EQ adjustments), room correction, channel balance, upsampling, right into the Player Audio settings. No need for Silverlight for adjustments. Compatibility with all architectures (of course more powerful CPU needed for complex processing). Due to the issues such as the ones in this thread, I've been doing things the long way. Whitebear Server to link LMS library to JRiver via DLNA/UPnP. Then using the JRiver 20 DSP engine to process the DLNA stream with room correction filters and sending out to my Transporter. It works, is reasonably stable. But has all the deficits of DLNA/UPnP and is inefficient. I would imagine this as the next evolutionary step for LMS for the technical / audiophile crowd. Has anyone done work on this? I see that the source code for Inguz is available on github as Visual C# files so the algos are already out there for someone who knows what they're doing :rolleyes:. Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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philippe_44 wrote: I'm not at all an audiophile my academic education is in signal processing / information theory Spot the correlation :) To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Archimago wrote: How I wish there was a way to integrate the DSP engine (eg. Inguz) into LMS itself. Technically it shouldn't be that hard. I see that the source code for Inguz is available on github as Visual C# files so the algos are already out there for someone who knows what they're doing :rolleyes:. Unfortunately that means that while the algorithms might be copyable, none of the code is. And the algorithms aren't really rocket science anyway - again a case of yes, the easy 10% is done, now it is just the 90% of hard, boring work. :-/ Lesson? Please don't use platform-specific languages/tools/libraries To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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philippe_44 wrote: I've experienced that for a LMS plugin to get enough interest, you must make it available on various platforms, Window, Linux x86 *and* ARM and some Atom and also to a lower extend OSX x86. Took me a lot of effort to do that despite I started from various elements that were already multi-platforms. Inguz seems to (I'm not using it so I might be wrong) be written in C# and fully dependant on msft 'stuff'. You can try to use mono, but I'm not sure how well it would work. So just to say that is sounds to me like a lot of work to re-do the integration into a generic LMS system. Other than that, you can stream directly from LMS to JRiver with the plugin I've done :) (although I'm struggling currently with a flac issue for JRiver, but you can use PCM) I have Inguz running on my Vortexboxes using Mono (instructions http://inguzaudio.com/installation/), as far as I can remember it was a simple install. I also run Inguz on my desktop Win 7 box which is used for tagging etc. Silverlight is a pita occasionally, (right now Firefox has blocked Silverlight (5.1.40416.0) but won't play with the current version (5.1.40620.0)) but on Chrome it works fine. Easy to adjust the graphic eq. sliders, wait a few seconds for the sound to change then use Squeeze Commander on Android to save the settings... then after listening for a while change it back 'cause it sounds crap. Like philippe, I read the discussions and have an occasional quiet cynical chuckle and I really enjoy Archimago's objective posts and blogs. I think it is time to replace my measurement mic with one of those USB devices and try the free versions of REW or DRCDesigner A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Apesbrain wrote: Getting the error Cannot initialize Silverlight: createSilverlightControl is not defined when accessing the Inguz settings page. Tried IE11, Chrome and Firefox all with same result. Is there a solution for this? Thanks. Obvious question, but do you have Silverlight installed and up to date? LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Yes, uninstalled/reinstalled as well. There is a reference in this this thread to an updated Silverlight.js: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?87506-Inguz-drc-eq-plugin-workingp=632743viewfull=1#post632743 Would you happen to have this file? Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Apesbrain, this post by do0g- http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?87506-Inguz-drc-eq-plugin-workingp=632743viewfull=1#post632743 - in an earlier thread looks relevant. I have zipped the silverlight.js mentioned in the post and attached it as silverlight.zip Try it and report back. By the way, even when you get the silverlight display going there are a couple of issues to be aware of - 1. There is a delay of several seconds playing time from when you make a change in the silverlight graphical equalizer to when the sound is actually changed due to buffering. You can hurry it up by moving the play position slider on the player ui. 2. The Inguz UI does not show the Save button, you have to use a tablet or phone - I use Squeeze Commander on Android to save settings. +---+ |Filename: Silverlight.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18337| +---+ A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Wirrunna wrote: I have zipped the silverlight.js mentioned in the post and attached it as silverlight.zip Try it and report back. Thanks for this! I still got the error in IE but as you suggested was able to access and save settings via my SBRadio display. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Apesbrain wrote: Thanks for this! I still got the error in IE but as you suggested was able to access and save settings via my SBRadio display. Glad to help, apologies for not noticing this thread earlier. Remember that Silverlight is a Microsoft product, that means that you should close all browsers, un-install Silverlight using the Control Panel, re-boot the computer, install Silverlight and then maybe it will work. I have been able to get it to work on IE and Chrome but not on Firefox. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Getting the error Cannot initialize Silverlight: createSilverlightControl is not defined when accessing the Inguz settings page. Tried IE11, Chrome and Firefox all with same result. Is there a solution for this? Thanks. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Hi - I'm working through what's req to get InguzEq running with room correction having has Eq working fine with v 0.9.32. I just reinstalled V 0.9.33 (from http://inguzaudio.com/downloads/ so presumably the latest). I copied the stuff from the two zip files over the top of the 0.9.32 install, both Eq and DSP, having first stopped the server, then restarted, per instructions. Eq plugin still there and enabled. My own Eq settings still there - all good. However although LMS plugins page now shows V 0.9.33 installed, the latest version info entries in log.txt (after restarting the server and successfully playing music) still show V 0.9.32. Did I mess up or are these v 0.9.32 log.txt entries correct? Sample of log.txt: 20150303021644: InguzDSP (version 0.9.32) -id 00:04:20:07:e7:fe -wav -wavo -d 24 20150303021645: 00:04:20:07:e7:fe Gain -16 dB 20150303021645: 00:04:20:07:e7:fe Impulse (null), matrix (null) 20150303021645: 00:04:20:07:e7:fe EQ0090758B15 20150303021645: 00:04:20:07:e7:fe 16/44100 PCM = 24/44100 PCM TRIANGULAR, gain -16 dB 20150303022316: 00:04:20:07:e7:fe Write DSPUtil.FastConvolver.00_04_20_07_e7_fe.tail (16382) 20150303022316: 00:04:20:07:e7:fe 18212712 samples, 391668.0032 ms (390.635 init), 1.0519 * realtime, peak -2.7026 dBfs Cheers - looking forward to getting this going shortly... Pete Logitech Media Server Version: 7.8.0 - 1395409907 @ Thu Mar 27 20:19:17 CUT 2014 Hostname: server Server IP Address: 192.168.0.100 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Windows Home Server - EN - cp1252 Platform Architecture: 586 Perl Version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) peted's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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OK, so I used the Inguz directed installation instructions from the website for OSX installation. I installed Mono first. After a restart, I show menu items for EQ, but the file-type options are grayed out, so I gather that the executable hasn't been invoked. I don't understand the Mac files structure well enough to know how to install the config files to get this all working. Help? scintilla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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RussellMrgn wrote: ok, sorry in advance, I have not read through this posting, except for the first few posts. Now comes the real deal of the posting Can someone post a 'how to', to get this working with the current realease of LMS? Start with this thread - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?87506-Inguz-drc-eq-plugin-working. Kuja What is the absolute minimum processing power required to run Inguz on a PC? I am just testing an ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe board right now and it runs Inguz EQ fine for an SB3 and a Touch playing different tracks - i.e. 2 instances of Inquz DSP and SpiceFly Sugarcube. Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893, Win 7 64 Home Premium, 4GB RAM, OCZ Vertex 2 120Gb SSD drive C, 120,000 tracks across two 2TB Samsung eco green (5400 rpm) drives. Power supply is a PicoPSU. WattMeter shows the complete system drawing 37 watts while Squeezebox Server is running with SugarCube and Inguz enabled and running a complete system scan using Windows Security Essentials. Windows Task Manager shows CPU usage is at about 70%, with MsMpEng.exe taking 40% ~ 50% CPU Before I started the complete scan, the Task Manager showed about 20% ~ 30% CPU and WattMeter showed about 25 to 30 watts for Squeezebox Server only. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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ok, sorry in advance, I have not read through this posting, except for the first few posts. Now comes the real deal of the posting Can someone post a @who To' to get this working with the current realease of LMS? RussellMrgn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Hello Phil,
I have now modified the file custom-convert.conf and the DSP
correction is applied for the apple lossless files, while aac (m4a
compressed) are played without the intervention of the DSP.
My attual configuration of custom-convert.conf:
aif flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# FT:{START=-skip %t}
[InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c -input $FILE$ $START$ -be -wav -wavo
-d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
aac flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# IFT
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
alc flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# FT:{START=-j %s}U:{END=-e %u}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $START$ $END$ $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id
00:04:20:22:bb:0c -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
amb flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# IFT:{START=-skip %t}
[InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c -input $FILE$ $START$ -amb -wavo -d
24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
ape flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# F
[mac] $FILE$ - -d | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c -wav -wavo -d 24
| [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
Thanks,
Marcello
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Phil Leigh wrote:
Marcello
I added this entry to my custom-convert.conf file to play apple files
via Inguz:
aac flc * 00:04:20:22:01:8e
# IFT
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:01:8e -wav
-wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
you need to replace my MAC address (00:04:20:22:01:8e) with the MAC
address of your device
Hope this helps
regards
Phil
Thank you for the reply Phil.
This is the first part of the my custom-convert.conf:
aif flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# FT:{START=-skip %t}
[InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c -input $FILE$ $START$ -be -wav -wavo
-d 24 | [flac] -cs -5 --totally-silent -
aac flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# IFT
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:01:8e
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
alc flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# F
[alac] $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c -wav -wavo -d 24 |
[flac] -cs -5 --totally-silent -
amb flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# IFT:{START=-skip %t}
[InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c -input $FILE$ $START$ -amb -wavo -d
24 | [flac] -cs -5 --totally-silent -
ape flc * 00:04:20:22:bb:0c
# F
[mac] $FILE$ - -d | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:bb:0c -wav -wavo -d 24
| [flac] -cs -5 --totally-silent -
The screen of configuration tipe of fliles:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w95/marcy1970/Schermata06-2456081alle190500.jpg
As I hope you see, the file type apple lossless is not clickable to
select the option inguz dsp.
Thanks again for your help.
Marcello
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
marcy1970 wrote: Hi all, i have a question specifically for Phil. I installed Logitech media server on a new imac with osx lion. I found it quite difficoltä to run the latest version of Inguz (0.9.33) for installation problems following this procedure : http://www.sugarmonster.net/InguzDownloads/index.html But now i have the plugin dsp nicely active and correction works with flac and mp3 files but not with apple lossless (alac). I tried and tried but it seems that we need to make some changes in the configuration files (?). I ask for a little help and sorry for the bad English language. Tanks, Marcello Marcello I added this entry to my custom-convert.conf file to play apple files via Inguz: aac flc * 00:04:20:22:01:8e # IFT [faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:01:8e -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent - you need to replace my MAC address (00:04:20:22:01:8e) with the MAC address of your device Hope this helps regards Phil Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Phil Leigh wrote: Marcello I added this entry to my custom-convert.conf file to play apple files via Inguz: aac flc * 00:04:20:22:01:8e # IFT [faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:01:8e -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent - you need to replace my MAC address (00:04:20:22:01:8e) with the MAC address of your device Hope this helps regards Phil Good to hear from you Phil, hope all well. adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Hi all, i have a question specifically for Phil. I installed Logitech media server on a new imac with osx lion. I found it quite difficoltä to run the latest version of Inguz (0.9.33) for installation problems following this procedure : http://www.sugarmonster.net/InguzDownloads/index.html But now i have the plugin dsp nicely active and correction works with flac and mp3 files but not with apple lossless (alac). I tried and tried but it seems that we need to make some changes in the configuration files (?). I ask for a little help and sorry for the bad English language. Tanks, Marcello marcy1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44043 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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I posted over in 3rd Party Software about an odd problem I just had with ImpulsePrep. -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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TheOctavist;695070 Wrote: Mr. phil.. can I get what I need from REW?? http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/ OR http://www.vicoustic.com/VN/Musicbroadcast/ProdutoInfo.asp?Id=110 OR http://www.acoustisoft.com/ OR http://www.fuzzmeasure.com/ Hi there... All of the tools you mention will let you measure/analyse the in-room response(with a suitably accurate measurement mic). I don't know if you can use them to generate convolution files (like you can with AudioLense or Acourate or BruteFIR) to use with Inguz though. I'm not sure if they let you specify a target response curve either. I only have extensive experience with AL (and the TACT hardware+Good Vibrations software - which was a sort of freeware precursor to Acourate). I wouldn't want to mislead you. Suggest you ask on a REW forum? Regards Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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are you versed in Brute Fir, sir?? I really want to make this happen..but dont want to pay a centodollar for software I may or may not take a shine to -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Mr. phil.. can I get what I need from REW?? http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/ OR http://www.vicoustic.com/VN/Musicbroadcast/ProdutoInfo.asp?Id=110 OR http://www.acoustisoft.com/ OR http://www.fuzzmeasure.com/ -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Hi Phil (Leigh), I don't know if you are still reading this thread but if you are I'd like to ask you a question. I had a go at getting Inguz up and running on a QNAP NAS but after a long time trying gave up. I got partway there but InguzDSP.exe doesn't seem to like the QNAP environment. So I decided to over to switch over to a low energy Windows 7 based system and got Inguz running easily using your modified files. It works a treat and Windows gives me direct access to lots of other Windows goodies like MP3tag as well. The question... I find that the first or second track played each day (after a daily Win7 reboot) does a lot of re-buffering. After that one track though, all following tracks play without a hitch. Is this something you've observed with windows? I'm using LMS/Inguz/SugarCube, the windows machine has been tuned to give priority to background tasks and other than things like AV, VNC nothing else is running. I've also un-installed all the retailer kak' and stopped non essential services. Thanks Bob P.S. Have you noticed that Inguz for Windows has recently been updated to v0.93? -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Thanks Phil. It appears that your target points are referenced to approx -8db, or am I seeing things? Aside from that question, our targets compare quite well. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Curt962;634075 Wrote: Thanks Phil. It appears that your target points are referenced to approx -8db, or am I seeing things? Aside from that question, our targets compare quite well. yes that's right - I'm used to drawing my targets like that when I had my TACT... see below for why: +---+ |Filename: CropperCapture[1].jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11931| +---+ -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
