source control
I'm looking for some best practices for using source control for CF development. We will probably be using MS SourceSafe, with a combination of Dreamweaver MX and CF Studio 5.0, and CF Server MX (not that it matters). Specifically, I am curious to know how the administration has been setup, as I have seen numerous notes dedicated to the 'nightmares' associated with CF and source control. Do you setup 2 network shares and use 1 for the "checked-out" working location? Or does every developer run a local copy of the free CF Server, and then check-out and edit locally, which would allow the check-in to go back to the central dev server? How is project management handled -- as far as delivering a "version" of the site/code? Any info, URLs, suggestions, or comments are appreciated. Thank you, John M Stover II [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Elizabeth
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Thanks
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source control
I am working with a team to develop a site for the first time. I've always been solo before. Any experience with visual source safe or using the version control that is part of studio projects? Which is better? If source safe is used can the files be saved on a server other than the source safe server? Thanks for the help. Kevin Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source Control
We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source control on our site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences regarding source control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. Thanks -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Source Control
Any suggestions on source control products? I have looked into: - Visual Source Safe ($5000+) -CVS -CVS NT -Tortoise -WIN CVS What is everyone using and how good is it??? Functionality I prefer: -Ability to check-in / out files -History of changes -Integration w/ Homesite is a plus but not required. The first time I tried MS Visual SS it was very easy to integrate with. I have tried using CVS, but had problems getting everything setup smoothly. Management would rather take the free choice over the expensive one. Suggestions please!!! Ryan Duckworth Macromedia ColdFusion Certified Professional Uhlig Communications 10983 Granada Lane Overland Park, KS 66211 (913) 754-4272 ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=37 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181914 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: source control
I'm using sourcesafe here myself for source control, admittedly though I'm not using the labelling and versioning features. They are a bit bizarre in SourceSafe. I honestly use the source control that studio uses in a project. AFAIK, it checks out the file to the actual location on the server. So you can test it as if it's live on the dev server I think... Try testing VSS with a cf project. It's pretty tightly integrated, so you may just find some favourable results. -Original Message- From: Stover, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: source control I'm looking for some best practices for using source control for CF development. We will probably be using MS SourceSafe, with a combination of Dreamweaver MX and CF Studio 5.0, and CF Server MX (not that it matters). Specifically, I am curious to know how the administration has been setup, as I have seen numerous notes dedicated to the 'nightmares' associated with CF and source control. Do you setup 2 network shares and use 1 for the "checked-out" working location? Or does every developer run a local copy of the free CF Server, and then check-out and edit locally, which would allow the check-in to go back to the central dev server? How is project management handled -- as far as delivering a "version" of the site/code? Any info, URLs, suggestions, or comments are appreciated. Thank you, John M Stover II [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: source control
I use CVS and checkout files to my local PC. On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Costas Piliotis wrote: > I'm using sourcesafe here myself for source control, admittedly though I'm > not using the labelling and versioning features. They are a bit bizarre in > SourceSafe. > > I honestly use the source control that studio uses in a project. AFAIK, it > checks out the file to the actual location on the server. So you can test > it as if it's live on the dev server I think... > > Try testing VSS with a cf project. It's pretty tightly integrated, so you > may just find some favourable results. > > > -Original Message- > From: Stover, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:44 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: source control > > > I'm looking for some best practices for using source control for CF > development. We will probably be using MS SourceSafe, with a combination of > Dreamweaver MX and CF Studio 5.0, and CF Server MX (not that it matters). > > Specifically, I am curious to know how the administration has been setup, as > I have seen numerous notes dedicated to the 'nightmares' associated with CF > and source control. Do you setup 2 network shares and use 1 for the > "checked-out" working location? Or does every developer run a local copy of > the free CF Server, and then check-out and edit locally, which would allow > the check-in to go back to the central dev server? How is project > management handled -- as far as delivering a "version" of the site/code? > > Any info, URLs, suggestions, or comments are appreciated. > > Thank you, > > John M Stover II > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: source control
On Monday, July 29, 2002, at 11:43 , Stover, John wrote: > Specifically, I am curious to know how the administration has been > setup, as I have seen numerous notes dedicated to the 'nightmares' > associated with CF and source control. Do you setup 2 network shares > and use 1 for the "checked-out" working location? Or does every > developer run a local copy of the free CF Server, and then check-out and > edit locally, which would allow the check-in to go back to the central > dev server? How is project management handled -- as far as delivering a > "version" of the site/code? We have a central CVS repository and multiple environments designated: local-dev, development, qa, integration, production. local-dev: each developer runs CFMX locally (on Windows) with either a local database instance or sharing the development instance. They have a CVS checkout area and have DWMX set up so the checkout area is the 'local site' and their local CFMX install area is the 'remote site'. development: we run automated nightly builds from the top of the CVS tree to the (shared) development server (Solaris). qa: QA have on-demand builds from the top of the CVS tree (or any designated labeled code set underneath it) to the QA server (Solaris). Such builds are intended to be stable, testable builds. integration: QA also have on-demand builds from the CVS tree to the integration server (Solaris). This is our production mirror, where we run load tests etc. production: Release Engineering work with our Production Support team to co-ordinate known QA'd builds from the CVS tree to the production server. Builds are labeled as necessary to identify them so that we know exactly what code is on which server environment. We also keep our configuration files / scripts etc under CVS, with separate development / qa / integration / production sub-trees (e.g., we have a sitewideconstants.cfm include file that describes the server environment, domain names etc). Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Source Control
Allaire was using Sourcesafe.
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RE: Source Control
Elizabeth, If you want good source control and deployment follow this link: http://www.interwoven.com/products/teamsite/ VSS is good but TeamSite is very good. -JR Hello Everyone, I recently posted a question about Microsoft sourcesafe and did not get an answer. I am taking this to mean not many people use MS SourceSafe. What kind of source control (networked) does everyone with CF use? Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks Elizabeth --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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--=_428728268==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I use SourceSafe all the time with CF Studio 4.1. Everything seems to work very well, I haven't come across any problems.. UNTIL... I installed Studio 4.5. It had terrible problems with source control... you could check files out, and back in again, but Studio wasn't showing you that you'd checked files back in... I ended up rolling back to 4.1, and everythings been fine. At 11:36 26/05/00 -0700, you wrote: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >--=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFC706.9A44E200 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello Everyone, > >I recently posted a question about Microsoft sourcesafe and did not get an >answer. I am taking this to mean not many people use MS SourceSafe. What >kind of source control (networked) does everyone with CF use? > >Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly appreciated. > >Thanks >Elizabeth > >--=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFC706.9A44E200 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = >xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > >Hello Everyone, > > > >I recently posted a question about Microsoft sourcesafe and did = not get >an answer. I am taking = this to mean not many people use MS >SourceSafe.What kind of source control (networked) does everyone with CF = >use? = > > > >Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly = appreciated. > > > >Thanks > >Elizabeth > >--=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFC706.9A44E200-- > >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. --=_428728268==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I use SourceSafe all the time with CF Studio 4.1. Everything seems to work very well, I haven't come across any problems.. UNTIL... I installed Studio 4.5. It had terrible problems with source control... you could check files out, and back in again, but Studio wasn't showing you that you'd checked files back in... I ended up rolling back to 4.1, and everythings been fine. At 11:36 26/05/00 -0700, you wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFC706.9A44E200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, I recently posted a question about Microsoft sourcesafe and did not get an answer. I am taking this to mean not many people use MS SourceSafe. What kind of source control (networked) does everyone with CF use? Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks Elizabeth --=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFC706.9A44E200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" eudora="autourl">http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> Hello Everyone, I recently posted a question about Microsoft sourcesafe and did = not get an answer. I am taking = this to mean not many people use MS SourceSafe.What kind of source control (networked) does everyone with CF = use? = Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly = appreciated. Thanks Elizabeth --=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFC706.9A44E200-- -- Archives: http://www.egroups.com/list/cf-talk" eudora="autourl">http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk" eudora="autourl">http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --=_428728268==_.ALT-- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
This is a good program, but it has to be used right and configured right. It took me awhile to really know it Is there anything I can help with? > -Original Message- > From: Greg Czechowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Source Control > > > We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source > control on our > site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences > regarding source > control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. > > > Thanks > > > -- > > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf > _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > 'unsubscribe' in the body. > -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control
Don't forget the service packs as well. - Original Message - From: "Craig M. Rosenblum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Source Control > This is a good program, but it has to be used right and configured right. > > It took me awhile to really know it > > Is there anything I can help with? > > > -Original Message- > > From: Greg Czechowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Source Control > > > > > > We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source > > control on our > > site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences > > regarding source > > control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- > > > > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > > To Unsubscribe visit > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=li sts/cf > > _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > 'unsubscribe' in the body. > > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=li sts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
Resurecting a previous thread on source control (see end for summary): Seems to be 2 options so far: 1. MS source safe - good, but hard to configure(?), and a possible (SP?) issue with Studio 4.5 - Nick Slay: has studio 4.5 issue been sorted? Greg Czechowicz: does it still stink? and how? 2. TeamSite - "VSS is good but TeamSite is very good" (john rice) Has anyone used PVCS? Has anyone used more than one of the above, and how do they compare? Bert Dawson > -Original Message- > From: Fred T. Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Don't forget the service packs as well. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Craig M. Rosenblum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > This is a good program, but it has to be used right and > configured right. > > > > It took me awhile to really know it > > > > Is there anything I can help with? > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Greg Czechowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement > source > > > control on our > > > site. Could someone please email me their prior > experiences > > > regarding source > > > control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it > stinks. > > > > From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Allaire was using Sourcesafe. > From: john rice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > If you want good source control and deployment follow this link: > > http://www.interwoven.com/products/teamsite/ > > VSS is good but TeamSite is very good. > From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I use SourceSafe all the time with CF Studio 4.1. > Everything seems to > work very well, I haven't come across any problems.. UNTIL... I > installed Studio 4.5. It had terrible problems with source > control... you > could check files out, and back in again, but Studio wasn't > showing you > that you'd checked files back in... I ended up rolling back > to 4.1, and > everythings been fine. > From: Elizabeth Marcotte KJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I recently posted a question about Microsoft sourcesafe and > did not get an > answer. I am taking this to mean not many people use MS > SourceSafe. What > kind of source control (networked) does everyone with CF use? > > Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Elizabeth -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control
Hi Bert! I still haven't had the chance to try 4.5 since the time I had the problems, with SourceSafe.. I will try and get the latest download and try again!! I can't say that I found it hard to configure though? Once installed, I had no problem connecting to it, working with projects. Having said this, I don't work in a team environment, although I do use two different machines, both of which access the same SourceSafe database. Nick > From: Bert Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:18:42 +0100 > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Source Control > > Resurecting a previous thread on source control (see end for summary): > > Seems to be 2 options so far: > > 1. MS source safe - good, but hard to configure(?), and a possible (SP?) > issue with Studio 4.5 - > Nick Slay: has studio 4.5 issue been sorted? > Greg Czechowicz: does it still stink? and how? > > 2. TeamSite - "VSS is good but TeamSite is very good" (john rice) > > Has anyone used PVCS? > Has anyone used more than one of the above, and how do they compare? > > Bert Dawson > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Fred T. Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> Don't forget the service packs as well. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Craig M. Rosenblum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> This is a good program, but it has to be used right and >> configured right. >>> >>> It took me awhile to really know it >>> >>> Is there anything I can help with? >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Greg Czechowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>> >>>> We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement >> source >>>> control on our >>>> site. Could someone please email me their prior >> experiences >>>> regarding source >>>> control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it >> stinks. >>>> > > >> From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> Allaire was using Sourcesafe. > > >> From: john rice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> If you want good source control and deployment follow this link: >> >> http://www.interwoven.com/products/teamsite/ >> >> VSS is good but TeamSite is very good. > > >> From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> I use SourceSafe all the time with CF Studio 4.1. >> Everything seems to >> work very well, I haven't come across any problems.. UNTIL... I >> installed Studio 4.5. It had terrible problems with source >> control... you >> could check files out, and back in again, but Studio wasn't >> showing you >> that you'd checked files back in... I ended up rolling back >> to 4.1, and >> everythings been fine. > > >> From: Elizabeth Marcotte KJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> I recently posted a question about Microsoft sourcesafe and >> did not get an >> answer. I am taking this to mean not many people use MS >> SourceSafe. What >> kind of source control (networked) does everyone with CF use? >> >> Please any ideas and suggestions are greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> Elizabeth > -- > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > To Unsubscribe visit > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or > send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the > body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
CF Source Control
As we expand to more developers we need to come up with a good source control solution. What is everyone using for source control? What packages work best with CF Studio? What problems have you had with using source control? How many developers do you have using source control? Does it work with RDS? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Mark Johnson --- Senior Cold Fusion Developer Cardinal Communications -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control
Well, we use Visual Source Safe and its great for us. Especially the fact that you can integrate the Source Safe features right into a project in CF Studio. I have had some experience with other source control applications and found VSS much easier to use. Dylan Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Development - Original Message - From: "Greg Czechowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: Source Control > We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source control on our > site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences regarding source > control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. > > > Thanks > > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control
In <058501bfa3e4$872b8330$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Czechowicz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in a fit of unbridled passion, wrote: > We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source control on our > site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences regarding source > control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. I've used PVCS in the past.. I think SourceSafe is cool in the fact that it integrates well with CF Studio. I've yet to see a killer source control system.. they all have crappy interfaces, imo. -- Reuben King <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Senior Web Consultant Stonebridge Technologies <http://www.sbti.com/> Phone: (512) 502-3332 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
take a look at starteam http://www.starbase.com it integrates well with studio and projects we use it here. Its a all in one...source and trouble tracking. -Original Message- From: Reuben King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Source Control In <058501bfa3e4$872b8330$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Czechowicz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in a fit of unbridled passion, wrote: > We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source control on our > site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences regarding source > control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. I've used PVCS in the past.. I think SourceSafe is cool in the fact that it integrates well with CF Studio. I've yet to see a killer source control system.. they all have crappy interfaces, imo. -- Reuben King <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Senior Web Consultant Stonebridge Technologies <http://www.sbti.com/> Phone: (512) 502-3332 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
what about it stinks? We're using it and it's a tuff tool...i mean it's very stringent... > -Original Message- > From: Greg Czechowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Source Control > > > We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source > control on our > site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences > regarding source > control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. > > > Thanks > > > -- > > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
try out perforce. www.perforce.com It might not be as 'simple' to use as VSS but our developers switched to it two years ago because they had so many problems (disasters) with VSS. I had never used one before but now I swear by it. It is simple to use and extremely powerful. I know someone else, Dan Switzer, was going to try it out. Maybe he can refute/back my claims. Scott Rowe -Original Message- From: Greg Czechowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Source Control We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source control on our site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences regarding source control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. Thanks -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
I downloaded and installed it. The feature list is incredible rich, but there is most definitely a learning curve involved. I had to put it on the backburner until I had more time to play with it. However, there are some really killer features (like being able to have multiple developers work on the same document) which I'm dying to play around with. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time right now to learn how to use it. -Dan -Original Message- From: Scott Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control try out perforce. www.perforce.com It might not be as 'simple' to use as VSS but our developers switched to it two years ago because they had so many problems (disasters) with VSS. I had never used one before but now I swear by it. It is simple to use and extremely powerful. I know someone else, Dan Switzer, was going to try it out. Maybe he can refute/back my claims. Scott Rowe -Original Message- From: Greg Czechowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Source Control We are currently using Visual Source Safe to implement source control on our site. Could someone please email me their prior experiences regarding source control. We currently use Sourcesafe and frankly it stinks. Thanks -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
-Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control backburner until I had more time to play with it. However, there are some really killer features (like being able to have multiple developers work on the same document) which I'm dying to play around with. Unfortunately, I Doesn't that break the whole concept change control? This feature is currently available windows explorer. Duane -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
Actually, it does a bit compare and can merge the edited sections together, letting the user confirm the changes before saving them. I'm not saying this is a feature that should be used widely, but there have been a number of times a developer has left work without checking a document back in, where I just needed to make a quick change to the document. (Usually a spelling error or something like that.) Unfortunately, with them having the document checked out, I can't make the change. This feature would allow me to make the change, then when they go to check in the document, it will warn them that a change has occurred and show them what the document looks like with the merged changes. They can then either except the changes or save only their version. (At least this is the way I gather it works from the docs-I've yet to try it.) -Dan -Original Message- From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control -Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control backburner until I had more time to play with it. However, there are some really killer features (like being able to have multiple developers work on the same document) which I'm dying to play around with. Unfortunately, I Doesn't that break the whole concept change control? This feature is currently available windows explorer. Duane -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
Yep, it does work that way. I work with another developer in London and due to our combined laziness, I mean time-zone difference, this program allows him to not have to wait for me to get in so he can change something. It's really easy to merge the differences as well. It can even auto-merge for you which I've heard is pretty accurate but I'm afraid to try. When you merge it will show you the original page code and your changes in one color, the other persons changes in another one. You can then easily merge the two together. Or you can viciously overwrite all their changes. :-) Scott -Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control Actually, it does a bit compare and can merge the edited sections together, letting the user confirm the changes before saving them. I'm not saying this is a feature that should be used widely, but there have been a number of times a developer has left work without checking a document back in, where I just needed to make a quick change to the document. (Usually a spelling error or something like that.) Unfortunately, with them having the document checked out, I can't make the change. This feature would allow me to make the change, then when they go to check in the document, it will warn them that a change has occurred and show them what the document looks like with the merged changes. They can then either except the changes or save only their version. (At least this is the way I gather it works from the docs-I've yet to try it.) -Dan -Original Message- From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control -Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control backburner until I had more time to play with it. However, there are some really killer features (like being able to have multiple developers work on the same document) which I'm dying to play around with. Unfortunately, I Doesn't that break the whole concept change control? This feature is currently available windows explorer. Duane -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
I am that "London Developer" and can't agree more with what Scott has said (and I'm not saying this just because he's my boss), Perforce is a wonderful product which has made a potentially difficult situation very easy. Other great features include being able to skip back to previous changes in the documents history so you can eradicate any error your boss may have made. :-) -Original Message- From: Scott Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control Yep, it does work that way. I work with another developer in London and due to our combined laziness, I mean time-zone difference, this program allows him to not have to wait for me to get in so he can change something. It's really easy to merge the differences as well. It can even auto-merge for you which I've heard is pretty accurate but I'm afraid to try. When you merge it will show you the original page code and your changes in one color, the other persons changes in another one. You can then easily merge the two together. Or you can viciously overwrite all their changes. :-) Scott -Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control Actually, it does a bit compare and can merge the edited sections together, letting the user confirm the changes before saving them. I'm not saying this is a feature that should be used widely, but there have been a number of times a developer has left work without checking a document back in, where I just needed to make a quick change to the document. (Usually a spelling error or something like that.) Unfortunately, with them having the document checked out, I can't make the change. This feature would allow me to make the change, then when they go to check in the document, it will warn them that a change has occurred and show them what the document looks like with the merged changes. They can then either except the changes or save only their version. (At least this is the way I gather it works from the docs-I've yet to try it.) -Dan -Original Message- From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control -Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control backburner until I had more time to play with it. However, there are some really killer features (like being able to have multiple developers work on the same document) which I'm dying to play around with. Unfortunately, I Doesn't that break the whole concept change control? This feature is currently available windows explorer. Duane -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
I figured I would stick my nose in here. Having not used the Perforce product I can not speak good or bad about it. We use Visual Source Safe and have been for about 3 years. Everything the other users are saying about perforce can be said about source safe. Depending your configuration of source safe you can allow multiple people to checkout the same document. Then as each person checks the document in source will compare what is being checked in with what is currently in source safe. If you changed a line(s) of code and no one else has then source safe simply merges your changes automatically. If however, you changed some lines and someone else changed the same lines it will show you the 2 versions and allow you to choose which set of lines to place into source safe. Once "merged" you can even tweak the lines to get them into their final form. The only restriction on the multiple checkout function is for files that are binary, for example Word documents, graphics, etc. In this case since it doesn't have text to display differences with it will only allow one person to have them checked out at once. We have been very happy with source safe. We have had as many as 6-8 programmers working on 1 project simultaneously merging changes and adding files without any problems. We have even taken advantage of going back into the history and pulling a previous version of a file when someone "screwed up" the current version. You can even "pin" versions. In this case you can take a specific version of a file and this is the one retrieved whenever you get latest version. However, I can have a later version checked out and working on it. In this way if you have a routine that is stable and working you pin that version. You can then enhance and add functionality to a later version without worrying about corrupting someone else's application. This usefulness comes in to play when you allow multiple projects to share the same program. Good luck with your decision! __ Bill Grover Supervisor IS DepartmentPhone: 301.424.3300 x396 EU Services, Inc. FAX: 301.424.3300 x1396# 649 North Horners Lane E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW: www.euservices.com __ > -Original Message- -- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:30:19 +0100 From: "Reid Philpot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Source Control Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am that "London Developer" and can't agree more with what Scott has said (and I'm not saying this just because he's my boss), Perforce is a wonderful product which has made a potentially difficult situation very easy. Other great features include being able to skip back to previous changes in the documents history so you can eradicate any error your boss may have made. :-) -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
Bill, I've been using VSS about 4 years now, pretty much problem free. One of my only pet peeves is that it doesn't offer a web interface as of 6.0 (without a third party tool). I'm interested in how you got pinning to work. As I understand it pinning allows you to create a link to a label correct? Unfortunately I have never been able to successfully get pinning to work. Also do you, or you VSS admin, run analyze often on your database? TIA, Duane -Original Message- From: Bill Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Source Control I figured I would stick my nose in here. Having not used the Perforce product I can not speak good or bad about it. We use Visual Source Safe and have been for about 3 years. Everything the other users are saying about perforce can be said about source safe. Depending your configuration of source safe you can allow multiple people to checkout the same document. Then as each person checks the document in source will compare what is being checked in with what is currently in source safe. If you changed a line(s) of code and no one else has then source safe simply merges your changes automatically. If however, you changed some lines and someone else changed the same lines it will show you the 2 versions and allow you to choose which set of lines to place into source safe. Once "merged" you can even tweak the lines to get them into their final form. The only restriction on the multiple checkout function is for files that are binary, for example Word documents, graphics, etc. In this case since it doesn't have text to display differences with it will only allow one person to have them checked out at once. We have been very happy with source safe. We have had as many as 6-8 programmers working on 1 project simultaneously merging changes and adding files without any problems. We have even taken advantage of going back into the history and pulling a previous version of a file when someone "screwed up" the current version. You can even "pin" versions. In this case you can take a specific version of a file and this is the one retrieved whenever you get latest version. However, I can have a later version checked out and working on it. In this way if you have a routine that is stable and working you pin that version. You can then enhance and add functionality to a later version without worrying about corrupting someone else's application. This usefulness comes in to play when you allow multiple projects to share the same program. Good luck with your decision! __ Bill Grover Supervisor IS DepartmentPhone: 301.424.3300 x396 EU Services, Inc. FAX: 301.424.3300 x1396# 649 North Horners Lane E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW: www.euservices.com __ > -Original Message- -- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:30:19 +0100 From: "Reid Philpot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Source Control Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am that "London Developer" and can't agree more with what Scott has said (and I'm not saying this just because he's my boss), Perforce is a wonderful product which has made a potentially difficult situation very easy. Other great features include being able to skip back to previous changes in the documents history so you can eradicate any error your boss may have made. :-) -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control
> try out perforce. www.perforce.com Yeah go on then, I dare you! > It is simple to use You think? > extremely powerful. Perhaps, personaly I never got it to do more than delete an entire directory of write protected files without being told to, but I suppose you could argue that the ability to delete files that are write protected without so much as an "are you sure" dialog is prety powerful. In my opinion this software is little more than a sack of S*** thrown together by a bunch of amateurs with no idea what a user really wants out of a bit of software. -- James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they go flying by. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control
What we did to pin a file was to right click on the file. Then you choose "Show History" option. You will now get a list of all date and times when the file was checked in. Simply click on the "check in" you want and click the pin button. The file must be checked into source safe for this button to be enabled. Once pinned if you "get latest version" of the project the system will give you the pinned version, not the last version. We run analyze daily. We have a computer in our office setup to run automated tasks for our company (reports, database sync, etc.). One of this computers functions is to run analyze. To do this we created a batch file that has the proper commands and switches to have analyze find and fix problems. Then ever night/morning at 3:00 am the computer will launch this batch file. When we come in the analyze status screen is up and we can check what it did. Usually it will find some "minor problems fixed". But we have been seeing this message for so long and every thing works perfectly that we ignore it. The only time we get worried is if it reports a major error. The only time this has happened is when the server crashed in the middle of someone checking in a large project. At that point we just note what file and project it had trouble with, run analyze again, then check the project and make sure it's complete. If anything is missing or corrupted then we grab the latest version from whoever is working on it and push it into SourceSafe. But we've only had a major problem twice since we started using it and both times recovered without any problems. __ Bill Grover Supervisor IS DepartmentPhone: 301.424.3300 x396 EU Services, Inc. FAX: 301.424.3300 x1396# 649 North Horners Lane E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW: www.euservices.com __ > -Original Message- > Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:36:33 -0400 > From: "Duane Boudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Source Control > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Bill, > > I've been using VSS about 4 years now, pretty much problem > free. One of my > only pet peeves is that it doesn't offer a web interface as > of 6.0 (without > a third party tool). > > I'm interested in how you got pinning to work. As I > understand it pinning > allows you to create a link to a label correct? Unfortunately > I have never > been able to successfully get pinning to work. Also do you, or you VSS > admin, run analyze often on your database? > > TIA, > Duane -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Source Control CVS
Ok, I have found that the only mac ver of VSS is 499.00. I think I will take a look at CVSnt. But after reading and reading I have not yet found a step by step instruction on how to install CVSnt server and configure the WINcvs client. Or is WINcvs a client? Could someone point me to a "cook book" step by step instruction for installing and configuring? __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Source Control
> What is everyone using and how good is it??? I moved from CVS to Subversion and I can't look back anymore The software is here: http://subversion.tigris.org/ First class docs: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ For Windowws clients this is a good GUI: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This may be worth a check to get an idea about the alternatives: http://better-scm.berlios.de/comparison/ http://better-scm.berlios.de/comparison/comparison.html Massimo Foti DW tools: http://www.massimocorner.com CF tools: http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/ ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=35 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181916 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Source Control
Ryan Duckworth wrote: >Any suggestions on source control products? > > Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ I'm moving to it from both CVSNT and Perforce. It works really well, especially when coupled with a powerful file manager like Directory Opus (http://www.dopus.com/). >I have looked into: >- Visual Source Safe ($5000+) > > Yuck. >-CVS >-CVS NT >-Tortoise >-WIN CVS > > WinCVS and TortoiseCVS are UIs for CVS or CVSNT. There are comparable tools for Subversion, though the full-blown UI tools are a bit lacking, so I use TortoiseSVN (http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/). >What is everyone using and how good is it??? > > I used CVS and CVSNT for ages but didn't like the lack of some features. Then I tried Perforce and while it is amazingly powerful it was a bit too expensive for me (I'm attempting to get co-workers to use versioning for their work and have three of 'em and its $750 per seat). >Functionality I prefer: >-Ability to check-in / out files >-History of changes >-Integration w/ Homesite is a plus but not required. > > There is an SCC addon for SVN called SVNProxy available for $20. Personally I prefer to do that outside of the development tool and tie it to my file manager, thus my use of TortoiseSVN. >The first time I tried MS Visual SS it was very easy to integrate with. > > SourceSafe is one of the worst available, little better than RCS. It doesn't revision meta changes (renaming files, etc), is very platform dependent, isn't developed much, >I have tried using CVS, but had problems getting everything setup >smoothly. > > It can be a bit tricky at times. Subversion is a little tricky but the documentation for TortoiseSVN explains how to set it _all_ up nicely - worth reading. One thing to consider about SVN is that it is starting to take over from CVS for many open-source projects, which drives its development and that of add-ons. Due to this it is gaining a huge amount of support from 3rd parties. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=38 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181917 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Source Control
we use freeVCS, and it's free and pretty good. -Original Message- From: Ryan Duckworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Source Control Any suggestions on source control products? I have looked into: - Visual Source Safe ($5000+) -CVS -CVS NT -Tortoise -WIN CVS What is everyone using and how good is it??? Functionality I prefer: -Ability to check-in / out files -History of changes -Integration w/ Homesite is a plus but not required. The first time I tried MS Visual SS it was very easy to integrate with. I have tried using CVS, but had problems getting everything setup smoothly. Management would rather take the free choice over the expensive one. Suggestions please!!! Ryan Duckworth Macromedia ColdFusion Certified Professional Uhlig Communications 10983 Granada Lane Overland Park, KS 66211 (913) 754-4272 ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181918 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Source Control
Ryan Duckworth wrote: > Any suggestions on source control products? > > I have looked into: > - Visual Source Safe ($5000+) From MS, I've never used it. > -CVS > -CVS NT > -Tortoise > -WIN CVS All of these are CVS and CVS front-ends. CVS is good, though I recommend Subversion (subversion.tigris.org). It's supposed to be the new CVS replacement. There aren't as many tools built for it because it's fairly new, but you can get TortoiseSVN, which is great. > Functionality I prefer: > -Ability to check-in / out files > -History of changes > -Integration w/ Homesite is a plus but not required. I think VSS integrates with HS/CFS, and I've heard of a wrapper plug-in that will enable it for CVS. With Tortoise, you can right-click on the folders pane and access Tortoise's CVS/SVN controls from there on a folder level, though through explorer, you can use it per-file. Other than the HS/CFS integration, you can't really go wrong. Check in/out and monitor history are what version control is all about. > The first time I tried MS Visual SS it was very easy to integrate with. > I have tried using CVS, but had problems getting everything setup > smoothly. One word. Tortoise. Install and check it out. -nathan strutz ~| Protect your mail server with built in anti-virus protection. It's not only good for you, it's good for everybody. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=39 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181919 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Source Control
used VSS before, was ok, but ii didn't use it with HS. Some issue wiht htat project file in HS...yuk Using CVSNT now with Tortoise. Its schweet. Doug On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:28:20 -0700, Nathan Strutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Duckworth wrote: > > > Any suggestions on source control products? > > > > I have looked into: > > - Visual Source Safe ($5000+) > > From MS, I've never used it. > > > -CVS > > -CVS NT > > -Tortoise > > -WIN CVS > > All of these are CVS and CVS front-ends. CVS is good, though I recommend > Subversion (subversion.tigris.org). It's supposed to be the new CVS > replacement. There aren't as many tools built for it because it's fairly > new, but you can get TortoiseSVN, which is great. > > > Functionality I prefer: > > -Ability to check-in / out files > > -History of changes > > -Integration w/ Homesite is a plus but not required. > > I think VSS integrates with HS/CFS, and I've heard of a wrapper plug-in > that will enable it for CVS. With Tortoise, you can right-click on the > folders pane and access Tortoise's CVS/SVN controls from there on a > folder level, though through explorer, you can use it per-file. > > Other than the HS/CFS integration, you can't really go wrong. Check > in/out and monitor history are what version control is all about. > > > The first time I tried MS Visual SS it was very easy to integrate with. > > I have tried using CVS, but had problems getting everything setup > > smoothly. > > One word. Tortoise. Install and check it out. > > -nathan strutz > > ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=37 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181920 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Source Control
We use Visual Source Safe. We don't have problems with source control cause we use it. I can't get the RDS to work though. I've heard a lot of developers say they can't get it to work too. I'm fairly certain that it will work if you set it up correctly though. -Original Message- From: Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Source Control As we expand to more developers we need to come up with a good source control solution. What is everyone using for source control? What packages work best with CF Studio? What problems have you had with using source control? How many developers do you have using source control? Does it work with RDS? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Mark Johnson --- Senior Cold Fusion Developer Cardinal Communications -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Source Control for Linux
Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version control Thanks! Bill Wheatley Director of Development AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Studio and Source Control
Ok, I need some help with this - I'm missing something.. Our CIO decided to implement source control for our web pages, so we ordered MS Visual SourceSafe. VSS comes with a very informative manual (none). Using an article from Allaire ( http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=12588&Method=Full ), I installed VSS on the web server, created a directory to be used as the working folder, created a project in VSS, added all the files from the web site, and set the working folder to what I created for it. Went over to my laptop, went into CFADMIN and filled out the SourceControl fields, created a local working directory, installed VSS (NetSetup from server), fired up CFStudio, created a new project, pointed it to the working directory, chose a source control, mapped it, launched it from Studio, told it to get current version of all the files in the project from the server, went back to Studio, and added all the files to the project. *whew* File Locations: Web pages: \intranet\ VSS working folder on server: d:\VSS Work Files\Intranet\ VSS working folder on laptop: d:\CFProjects\Intranet\ CFStudio project: d:\CFProjects\Intranet CFADMIN: Path to SrcSafe.ini: d:\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\ Working Directory: d:\VSS Work Files\ Yes, I work with the live files. Yes, I know it's a no-no. As soon I get this figured out, I'm going to make a copy of the intranet's folder and setup another web site for my development. Then I get to try and figure out how to automatically copy over changes (suggestions??). But, first things first: Ok, the problem. I open up a file (checkout), make a change, save it, check it back in, the change isn't "live". Why not? Where is version 2 stored? It was my understanding that the working folders were only a place to temporarily put files being worked on. So, wouldn't that mean when the file was done being worked on that it would propagate to the original location (in this case, where the web pages are kept)?? Do I need to set up some kind of deployment thing? If so, what do I need to do? I'm really rather lost here since I don't know where the files (version 2 from above) is actually kept (to copy it up to the live site). What is the use of telling CFADMIN about VSS? The notes say to make sure that the RDS service has sufficient rights to the working folder, but Studio isn't using RDS - it's local. Which then leads me to ask how do I set up a project to use RDS that will go through the server's VSS? I'm basically having a hard time understanding how all of this fits and works together. I thought I did, but apparently, I don't. If some kind soul could take some time and detail out what I'm dealing with here (concepts, tips, suggestions) I would GREATLY appreciate it. -Jeff -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control CVS
wincvs is the client. I am not so sure about the stability of CVS running as a server on NT. If all the programmers are on the same network you can map drives to a shared directory and use it as your source repository. CookBook => http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, David Brown wrote: > Ok, I have found that the only mac ver of VSS is 499.00. I think I will > take a look at CVSnt. But after reading and reading I have not yet found a > step by step instruction on how to install CVSnt server and configure the > WINcvs client. Or is WINcvs a client? > > Could someone point me to a "cook book" step by step instruction for > installing and configuring? > > > > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: source control - arch
I know a few of you have asked about various source control systems (VSS, CVS, etc) recently, and I just ran across this new open source solution called arch. http://www.regexps.com/#arch It sounds very flexible, and it comes highly regarded from the open-source crowd. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/05/2155215&mode=thread Especially good for sparse/remote development efforts: "with the ability for branches to live on separate servers from the main trunk of the project's development", and more. It seems worth checking out (no pun intended, har har)! Adam. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Hey Vernon! About Source Control
Does Dreamweaver MX support any source control integration other than Visual SourceSafe...like the way CF Studio supported a wide array of tools via Microsoft's SCC API? The documentation only appears to address using Visual SourceSafe with it with all other source control options totally ignored. Or if you can point me to where that is documented I'll read it myself. Thanks, Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
ColdFusion Server-side Source Control
Okay, I've spent enough time spinning my wheels on this by myself - any help is appreciated :) Anyone successfully implemented server-side source control through CF? Found better docs somewhere on this feature within CF? We've got source control set up through studio, but we're trying to have an internal development server connect to a client's VSS db, and have all of our local developers use RDS locally on that machine for this effort - the problem seemingly lies in that there are multiple projects and multiple working directories. The form in the CFAdmin only allows a single DB to be connected (and is kinda vague about exactly which .ini file to connect to) and only a single working directory. Any experiences, configurations and references to other documentation would be greatly appreciated! Secondly and similarly, has anyone tried using the CF server-side source control or even studio integrated source control using SourceGear's SourceOffSite? Looks like it *should* work the same (only faster) since their based on the same API... Truman -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Source control ans Studio 5
Hello all, Has anyone used PVCS with CF Studio 5? I have a project created in CFS Studio, it's mapped to PVCS. There are no errors, but opening a directory takes forever, and I'm not able to check out files - the option is greyed out on the right-click popup. Opening the same diretory in Windows Explorer takes a couple seconds. In CF Studio 5 it can take 8 or 9 minutes to load the project, then diretcory changes within the project take another two or three minutes. The project repository and the code directories are on mapped drives over TCP/IP through a VPN. I'm not sure what else to tell you :) Any ideas? I'm pretty stumped here. Thanks! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Source Control for Linux
Yes there are many but not CF based CVS is one such system. Justin - Original Message - From: "William J Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:53 PM Subject: Source Control for Linux > Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? > I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version > control > > Thanks! > > > Bill Wheatley > Director of Development > AEPS INC > Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner > www.aeps.com > www.aeps2000.com > 954-472-6684 X303 > ICQ: 417645 > > > > -- > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > > -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control for Linux
Seems to me that http://www.cvshome.org/ would be the most obvious choice? Ken > -Original Message- > From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:53 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Source Control for Linux > > > Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? > I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version > control > > Thanks! > > > Bill Wheatley > Director of Development > AEPS INC > Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner > www.aeps.com > www.aeps2000.com > 954-472-6684 X303 > ICQ: 417645 > > > > -- > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > To Unsubscribe visit > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control for Linux
Let me know what you find, or write, as we need one also. At 07:53 AM 10/12/00 -0400, William J Wheatley wrote: >Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? >I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version >control > >Thanks! > > >Bill Wheatley >Director of Development >AEPS INC >Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner >www.aeps.com >www.aeps2000.com >954-472-6684 X303 >ICQ: 417645 > > > >-- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a >message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control for Linux
Does it integrate well with CFStudio? How? At 08:12 AM 10/12/00 -0400, Ken Wilson wrote: >Seems to me that http://www.cvshome.org/ would be the most obvious choice? > >Ken > > >> -Original Message- >> From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:53 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Source Control for Linux >> >> >> Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? >> I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version >> control >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Bill Wheatley >> Director of Development >> AEPS INC >> Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner >> www.aeps.com >> www.aeps2000.com >> 954-472-6684 X303 >> ICQ: 417645 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >> To Unsubscribe visit >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf >_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >'unsubscribe' in the body. > >-- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a >message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control for Linux
CVS is called Concurrent Versioning System (or something real close to that) Heres an example usage of CVS. There are Three developers on a project. Imagine four souce tree's one for each developer and a "master" tree. Okay so someone "checks out" a file and then modifies it and then "checks it" back in to his source tree. At this point the master source tree can be patched to contain all three developers changes and if any one modified the exact same file and the exact same line thats the only time there would ever really be a conflict in merging the two source tree's. So how is this cool? Automatic comments in files and there are SO many cool utilities for CVS, WinCVS, WebCVS stuff etc. which allow you to use any client you like for version control. Say you wanted to see some code from a source tree a few versions back? No problem CVS can keep track of all of your previous source tree's so you can recreate your souce tree at just about any point so you can undo / redo changes rather easily. It does not Integrate with CFStudio :) P.S. this is just more generic knowledge sharing than a specific reply to any one post : ) Jeremy Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Source Control for Linux Does it integrate well with CFStudio? How? At 08:12 AM 10/12/00 -0400, Ken Wilson wrote: >Seems to me that http://www.cvshome.org/ would be the most obvious choice? > >Ken > > >> -Original Message- >> From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:53 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Source Control for Linux >> >> >> Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? >> I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version >> control >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Bill Wheatley >> Director of Development >> AEPS INC >> Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner >> www.aeps.com >> www.aeps2000.com >> 954-472-6684 X303 >> ICQ: 417645 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >> To Unsubscribe visit >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf >_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >'unsubscribe' in the body. > >--- --- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Source Control for Linux
Use CVS its free and industry standard. > -Original Message- > From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:30 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Source Control for Linux > > > Let me know what you find, or write, as we need one also. > > At 07:53 AM 10/12/00 -0400, William J Wheatley wrote: > >Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? > >I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use > for version > >control > > > >Thanks! > > > > > >Bill Wheatley > >Director of Development > >AEPS INC > >Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner > >www.aeps.com > >www.aeps2000.com > >954-472-6684 X303 > >ICQ: 417645 > > > > > > > >- > - > >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > >To Unsubscribe visit > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=list s/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Studio and Source Control
I won't swear to having all of the answers but I'll attempt to answer what I can! __ Bill Grover Supervisor IS DepartmentPhone: 301.424.3300 x396 EU Services, Inc. FAX: 301.424.3300 x1396# 649 North Horners Lane E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW: www.euservices.com __ > -Original Message- > > Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:14:14 -0400 > From: Jeff Shepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Cf-Talk (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Studio and Source Control > Message-ID: <0DA2368A31D0D311A59900B0D0210674016F3211@MAIL-AK> > > Ok, I need some help with this - I'm missing something.. > > Our CIO decided to implement source control for our web > pages, so we ordered > MS Visual SourceSafe. VSS comes with a very informative > manual (none). Using > an article from Allaire ( > http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=12588&Method=Full ), I > installed VSS on the web server, created a directory to be used as the > working folder, created a project in VSS, added all the files > from the web > site, and set the working folder to what I created for it. > Went over to my > laptop, went into CFADMIN and filled out the SourceControl > fields, created a > local working directory, installed VSS (NetSetup from > server), fired up > CFStudio, created a new project, pointed it to the working > directory, chose > a source control, mapped it, launched it from Studio, told it > to get current > version of all the files in the project from the server, went back to > Studio, and added all the files to the project. > > *whew* > > File Locations: > > Web pages: \intranet\ > VSS working folder on server: d:\VSS Work Files\Intranet\ > VSS working folder on laptop: d:\CFProjects\Intranet\ > CFStudio project: d:\CFProjects\Intranet > CFADMIN: > Path to SrcSafe.ini: d:\Microsoft Visual Studio\VSS\ > Working Directory: d:\VSS Work Files\ > > Yes, I work with the live files. Yes, I know it's a no-no. As > soon I get > this figured out, I'm going to make a copy of the intranet's > folder and > setup another web site for my development. Then I get to try > and figure out > how to automatically copy over changes (suggestions??). > > But, first things first: > > Ok, the problem. I open up a file (checkout), make a change, > save it, check > it back in, the change isn't "live". Why not? Where is > version 2 stored? It > was my understanding that the working folders were only a place to > temporarily put files being worked on. So, wouldn't that mean > when the file > was done being worked on that it would propagate to the > original location > (in this case, where the web pages are kept)?? Ok, let me ask this, where in source safe did you set where the file's "live" location is. Answer: no place because there is no place to set it. In source safe when you check out a file it places the latest version of the file in the working folder of the person checking the file out, i.e. each person/computer can have their own working folder. Once you finish the edit and check the file back in you are simply updating the version in source safe to know about the changes you just made to the file. To "push" the file to your web site destination you will need to copy the file there yourself. When you check in the file it will leave the file behind in your working folder, unless you told SourceSafe to remove the file. You will notice that I said each person/computer can have their own working folder. What I mean is that if you login to multiple computers each computer can have a different working folder location and SourceSafe will remember this. > > Do I need to set up some kind of deployment thing? If so, > what do I need to > do? I'm really rather lost here since I don't know where the > files (version > 2 from above) is actually kept (to copy it up to the live site). You should have the latest copy in your working folder that you can copy. > > What is the use of telling CFADMIN about VSS? The notes say > to make sure > that the RDS service has sufficient rights to the working > folder, but Studio > isn't using RDS - it's local. Which then leads me to ask how > do I set up a > project to use RDS that will go through the server's VSS? Probably because many people setup their working folders on a CF server. What we do here is to have 2 CF servers. Our live server is running the "released" version. We have a development server as well. We m
Source Control and Your Dog
We're battling at work over whether to switch to Perforce or PVCS for our source control. If anyone has any thoughts on whether one or the other is better in a CF coding environment, feel free to speak up. We have local and remote developers, if that makes a difference. jay PS - We're switching away from VSS, which is where the dog comes in. ~~ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Best affordable source control solution
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C059E5.41174200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm interested in acquiring a source control solution for Cold Fusion Studio. Unfortunately, the obvious candidate: VSS is unbelievably expensive if you buy it a s a seperate application ($499 per workstation or something like that). Is there any other viable solution out there? Kind regards, Marc Schipperheyn _ .e> ___ mr M.Schipperheyn MBA Technical Director___[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ .e> ___ Friesestraatweg 215a P.o. Box 2010__ tel: +31 (0)50 5757888 9704 CA Groningen__fax: +31 (0)50 5757889 The Netherlands http://www.thefactore.com _ .e> ___ Premium Partner for Allaire. Multimedia development _ with Macromedia Director, Authorware & Flash. < The future is technological, but it will not be a world of gray steel. > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C059E5.41174200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 all, I'm = interested in=20 acquiring a source control solution for Cold Fusion Studio. = Unfortunately, the=20 obvious candidate: VSS is unbelievably expensive if you buy it a s a = seperate=20 application ($499 per workstation or something like that). Is there any = other=20 viable solution out there? Kind=20 regards, Marc=20 Schipperheyn __<theFactor.e>___ .e> ___mr M.Schipperheyn MBATechnical = Director___ = [EMAIL PROTECTED]_ .e> ___ Friesestraatweg 215a P.o. Box 2010__ tel: +31 (0)50 57578889704 CA=20 Groningen__fax: +31 (0)50 = 5757889The=20 Netherlands http://www.thefactore.com_ .e> ___ =20 Premium=20 Partner for Allaire. Multimedia development _ =20 &= nbsp; with=20 Macromedia Director, Authorware & Flash.< The = future is=20 technological, but it will not be a world of gray steel. >=20 --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C059E5.41174200-- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: source control - arch
Who uses it? I have only heard about it from the slashdot article. On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Cantrell, Adam wrote: > I know a few of you have asked about various source control systems (VSS, > CVS, etc) recently, and I just ran across this new open source solution > called arch. http://www.regexps.com/#arch > > It sounds very flexible, and it comes highly regarded from the open-sourc e > crowd. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/05/2155215&mode=threa d > > Especially good for sparse/remote development efforts: "with the ability for > branches to live on separate servers from the main trunk of the project's > development", and more. > > It seems worth checking out (no pun intended, har har)! > > Adam. > > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT: source control - arch
It's probably not being used by very many people seeing as the release date was uhh... yesterday, but then again, I'm not really the expert - just spreading the word. You might have some luck emailing the author of the software, he'd most likely be happy to share the number of downloads, etc. It probably has some maturing to do in certain areas, but I haven't tried it yet - it might be perfect for all I know. He claims it "blows the doors off CVS", which is a pretty bold claim - not sure if it's a good or bad thing yet that he would say that. Adam. > -Original Message- > From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:04 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: OT: source control - arch > > > Who uses it? I have only heard about it from the slashdot article. > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Cantrell, Adam wrote: > > > I know a few of you have asked about various source control > systems (VSS, > > CVS, etc) recently, and I just ran across this new open > source solution > > called arch. http://www.regexps.com/#arch > > > > It sounds very flexible, and it comes highly regarded from > the open-sourc > e > > crowd. > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/05/2155215&mode=threa > d > > > > Especially good for sparse/remote development efforts: > "with the ability > for > > branches to live on separate servers from the main trunk of > the project's > > development", and more. > > > > It seems worth checking out (no pun intended, har har)! > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
"lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
I mostly work at home with my flatmate, and we've just started our first major collaboration on developing a CMS. We don't have any source control software, and frankly we think most such software would be overkill. *All* we want is to be prompted that someone already has a file open when we try to open it. That's it. MS Office seems to have this built-in. Is it possible in Homesite? Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
WebDav is also supported. It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Does Dreamweaver MX support any source control integration other than Visual SourceSafe...like the way CF Studio supported a wide array of tools via Microsoft's SCC API? The documentation only appears to address using Visual SourceSafe with it with all other source control options totally ignored. Or if you can point me to where that is documented I'll read it myself. Thanks, Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
> It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 I vote for CVS integration at least once a year :-) Massimo Foti Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver http://www.macromedia.com/go/team ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
I'll certainly submit it. The obvious first idea would be to provide, at the very least, the level of support that was already in CF Studio/Homesite since many of us alrady use that. That support of Microsoft's SCC API provided lots of options and is a glaring omission from Dreamweaver...unless, of course, it already supports it without the fact being documented. Thanks, Ken Ps: Failure to provide previous level of support for the scc api looks like a bug to me rather than an enhancement request. Which do I check off on the form? :) -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control WebDav is also supported. It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Does Dreamweaver MX support any source control integration other than Visual SourceSafe...like the way CF Studio supported a wide array of tools via Microsoft's SCC API? The documentation only appears to address using Visual SourceSafe with it with all other source control options totally ignored. Or if you can point me to where that is documented I'll read it myself. Thanks, Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
Am I tripping, or doesnt DW have its own source control? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2002 12:59:52 PM >>> WebDav is also supported. It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Does Dreamweaver MX support any source control integration other than Visual SourceSafe...like the way CF Studio supported a wide array of tools via Microsoft's SCC API? The documentation only appears to address using Visual SourceSafe with it with all other source control options totally ignored. Or if you can point me to where that is documented I'll read it myself. Thanks, Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
Not to split hairs, but about 70% of the features from CFStudio were included in DWMX. The other 30% would not be considered bugs (officially speaking). While they are no less important to those who miss/need a particular feature(s), feature request would be the correct option. =) -Vern -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control I'll certainly submit it. The obvious first idea would be to provide, at the very least, the level of support that was already in CF Studio/Homesite since many of us alrady use that. That support of Microsoft's SCC API provided lots of options and is a glaring omission from Dreamweaver...unless, of course, it already supports it without the fact being documented. Thanks, Ken Ps: Failure to provide previous level of support for the scc api looks like a bug to me rather than an enhancement request. Which do I check off on the form? :) -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control WebDav is also supported. It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Does Dreamweaver MX support any source control integration other than Visual SourceSafe...like the way CF Studio supported a wide array of tools via Microsoft's SCC API? The documentation only appears to address using Visual SourceSafe with it with all other source control options totally ignored. Or if you can point me to where that is documented I'll read it myself. Thanks, Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
You referring to that check-in/check-out capability? Not quite the same thing. Ken -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Am I tripping, or doesnt DW have its own source control? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2002 12:59:52 PM >>> WebDav is also supported. It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Does Dreamweaver MX support any source control integration other than Visual SourceSafe...like the way CF Studio supported a wide array of tools via Microsoft's SCC API? The documentation only appears to address using Visual SourceSafe with it with all other source control options totally ignored. Or if you can point me to where that is documented I'll read it myself. Thanks, Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
What DW has (of it's own) is not really source control, I would say it's site management (link mgmnt, ftp, file synching, and so on). -Vern -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Am I tripping, or doesnt DW have its own source control? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2002 12:59:52 PM >>> WebDav is also supported. It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Does Dreamweaver MX support any source control integration other than Visual SourceSafe...like the way CF Studio supported a wide array of tools via Microsoft's SCC API? The documentation only appears to address using Visual SourceSafe with it with all other source control options totally ignored. Or if you can point me to where that is documented I'll read it myself. Thanks, Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
Just voted for CVS too -Original Message- From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Hey Vernon! About Source Control > It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 I vote for CVS integration at least once a year :-) Massimo Foti Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver http://www.macromedia.com/go/team ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control
Hate saying this, "Me too" ;-) -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hey Vernon! About Source Control Just voted for CVS too -Original Message- From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Hey Vernon! About Source Control > It would be super-helpful to let the DW team know what source control flavors you want to see - more requests for a flavor = more demand = higher priority for inclusion in future. I know they want to include more source control options...so get your $.02 in! > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=6 I vote for CVS integration at least once a year :-) Massimo Foti Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver http://www.macromedia.com/go/team ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Server-side Source Control
Yes I have some experience, and my conclusion is STAY AWAY! Vss and CF just don't seem to integrate well. We thought we had it solved, until we lost a day's worth of development. Our final conclusion was to simply run CF and VSS seperately and use Alt + Tab a lot. I would agree that the multiple projects appear to be the issue, but we never had enough time to invest in trying to solve it... Good luck.. JM -Original Message- From: Truman Esmond III To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24/08/00 7:43 PM Subject: ColdFusion Server-side Source Control Okay, I've spent enough time spinning my wheels on this by myself - any help is appreciated :) Anyone successfully implemented server-side source control through CF? Found better docs somewhere on this feature within CF? We've got source control set up through studio, but we're trying to have an internal development server connect to a client's VSS db, and have all of our local developers use RDS locally on that machine for this effort - the problem seemingly lies in that there are multiple projects and multiple working directories. The form in the CFAdmin only allows a single DB to be connected (and is kinda vague about exactly which .ini file to connect to) and only a single working directory. Any experiences, configurations and references to other documentation would be greatly appreciated! Secondly and similarly, has anyone tried using the CF server-side source control or even studio integrated source control using SourceGear's SourceOffSite? Looks like it *should* work the same (only faster) since their based on the same API... Truman -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: ColdFusion Server-side Source Control
Hmmm... That's where I seem to be heading as well. :( Good idea, not so good implementation. I'm going to poke around a bit more - I'll let everyone know if I get it to work. Thanks for the feedback Truman -Original Message- From: Milks, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 7:21 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: ColdFusion Server-side Source Control Yes I have some experience, and my conclusion is STAY AWAY! Vss and CF just don't seem to integrate well. We thought we had it solved, until we lost a day's worth of development. Our final conclusion was to simply run CF and VSS seperately and use Alt + Tab a lot. I would agree that the multiple projects appear to be the issue, but we never had enough time to invest in trying to solve it... Good luck.. JM -Original Message- From: Truman Esmond III To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24/08/00 7:43 PM Subject: ColdFusion Server-side Source Control Okay, I've spent enough time spinning my wheels on this by myself - any help is appreciated :) Anyone successfully implemented server-side source control through CF? Found better docs somewhere on this feature within CF? We've got source control set up through studio, but we're trying to have an internal development server connect to a client's VSS db, and have all of our local developers use RDS locally on that machine for this effort - the problem seemingly lies in that there are multiple projects and multiple working directories. The form in the CFAdmin only allows a single DB to be connected (and is kinda vague about exactly which .ini file to connect to) and only a single working directory. Any experiences, configurations and references to other documentation would be greatly appreciated! Secondly and similarly, has anyone tried using the CF server-side source control or even studio integrated source control using SourceGear's SourceOffSite? Looks like it *should* work the same (only faster) since their based on the same API... Truman -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: ColdFusion Server-side Source Control
I've worked on a project where the customer used SourceOffSite, and from the remote developer side using CFStudio it worked quite well. I don't know the exact details as to how they had the server setup, but I believe there was SOS server running on the devel box and CF Server didn't know anything about version control (CF Admin VSS configs were blank). Us remote developers simply ran SOS client, told it to grab the latest version, then used CFStudio to auto check-in/out the code as we worked on it throughout the day. HTH, ...Jay At 04:43 PM 8/24/2000, you wrote: >Secondly and similarly, has anyone tried using the CF server-side source >control or even studio integrated source control using SourceGear's >SourceOffSite? Looks like it *should* work the same (only faster) since >their based on the same API... > >Truman -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Source Control: everyone uses it, right?
Anyone not use source control? Would you hire a web development shop to work on a project if they routinely did not use source control but relied on the developers to maintain informal source control? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Source control ans Studio 5
I've done it with Networked drives. At the City of Los Angeles, I was in the office with the server and some other programmers were in an office a few blocks away. (PVCS 6 using CFStudio 5). PVCS was on a Unix Box. My connect times were pretty good, theirs were fairly slow. I would say it is the VPN that is probably slowing you down. _ From: Jeff Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Source control ans Studio 5 Hello all, Has anyone used PVCS with CF Studio 5? I have a project created in CFS Studio, it's mapped to PVCS. There are no errors, but opening a directory takes forever, and I'm not able to check out files - the option is greyed out on the right-click popup. Opening the same diretory in Windows Explorer takes a couple seconds. In CF Studio 5 it can take 8 or 9 minutes to load the project, then diretcory changes within the project take another two or three minutes. The project repository and the code directories are on mapped drives over TCP/IP through a VPN. I'm not sure what else to tell you :) Any ideas? I'm pretty stumped here. Thanks! _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Source control ans Studio 5
We use Studio/VSS and it works fine, except over the VPN, when it slows right down to unworkable, both opening the project and opening individual files. It seemed to be a bit quicker using the VSS client to do checkin/checkout, but was still dog slow. Not sure why the right click option would be greyed out though. Sorry - have't got a solution, but i'd agree with Sandy that the VPN is probably the bottleneck. Cheers Bert > -Original Message- > From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 February 2004 15:16 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Source control ans Studio 5 > > > I've done it with Networked drives. At the City of Los > Angeles, I was in the > office with the server and some other programmers were in an > office a few > blocks away. (PVCS 6 using CFStudio 5). PVCS was on a Unix Box. > > > My connect times were pretty good, theirs were fairly slow. > I would say it > is the VPN that is probably slowing you down. > > _ > > From: Jeff Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:08 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Source control ans Studio 5 > > Hello all, > > Has anyone used PVCS with CF Studio 5? > > I have a project created in CFS Studio, it's mapped to PVCS. > There are no > errors, but opening a directory takes forever, and I'm not > able to check out > files - the option is greyed out on the right-click popup. > > Opening the same diretory in Windows Explorer takes a couple > seconds. In CF > Studio 5 it can take 8 or 9 minutes to load the project, then > diretcory > changes within the project take another two or three minutes. > > The project repository and the code directories are on mapped > drives over > TCP/IP through a VPN. > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: [RE: Source Control for Linux]
No. You have to have a development server (or development directory) for any of this to work. Peter Theobald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does it integrate well with CFStudio? How? At 08:12 AM 10/12/00 -0400, Ken Wilson wrote: >Seems to me that http://www.cvshome.org/ would be the most obvious choice? > >Ken > > >> -Original Message- >> From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:53 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Source Control for Linux >> >> >> Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? >> I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version >> control >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Bill Wheatley >> Director of Development >> AEPS INC >> Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner >> www.aeps.com >> www.aeps2000.com >> 954-472-6684 X303 >> ICQ: 417645 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >> To Unsubscribe visit >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf >_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >'unsubscribe' in the body. > >-- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts&bodyRsts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: [RE: Source Control for Linux]
I don't understand that answer. We do have a development server and a production server. They are both running Linux. I could install CVS on either or both. How does that help me have source code control from CFStudio? At 07:12 PM 10/12/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >No. You have to have a development server (or development directory) for any >of this to work. > >Peter Theobald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does it integrate well with CFStudio? How? > >At 08:12 AM 10/12/00 -0400, Ken Wilson wrote: > >>Seems to me that http://www.cvshome.org/ would be the most obvious choice? >> >>Ken >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:53 AM >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: Source Control for Linux >>> >>> >>> Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? >>> I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use for version >>> control >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> Bill Wheatley >>> Director of Development >>> AEPS INC >>> Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner >>> www.aeps.com >>> www.aeps2000.com >>> 954-472-6684 X303 >>> ICQ: 417645 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >>> To Unsubscribe visit >>> http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf >>_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >>'unsubscribe' in the body. >> >>-- >>Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >>To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the >body. > > >--- >Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer >LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 > >-- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the >body. > > > >Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 >-- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarsts&bodysts/cf_talk or send a message >to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: [RE: Source Control for Linux]
First of all, you need a source control SERVER. This sits wherever your files are. Then you need a source control CLIENT. This chats to the server and says: "I want this file, let me have it!" or "Please create a new version of this for me". So, you install the server on the file server and the client on your machine. There are CVS clients for Windows. I have never tried a CVS client on Windows, so I don't know how it will integrate into Studio. However, it appears that you can do most Windows Explorer type stuff from within Studio so my guess would be that (since CVS integrates with Explorer), that it would work fine. Paul PS It's just a guess, as I've never used it with Windows. > -Original Message- > From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 13 October 2000 14:58 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: [RE: Source Control for Linux] > > > I don't understand that answer. > We do have a development server and a production server. They are > both running Linux. I could install CVS on either or both. > How does that help me have source code control from CFStudio? > > At 07:12 PM 10/12/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >No. You have to have a development server (or development > directory) for any > >of this to work. > > > >Peter Theobald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Does it integrate well with CFStudio? How? > > > >At 08:12 AM 10/12/00 -0400, Ken Wilson wrote: > > > >>Seems to me that http://www.cvshome.org/ would be the most > obvious choice? > >> > >>Ken > >> > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:53 AM > >>> To: CF-Talk > >>> Subject: Source Control for Linux > >>> > >>> > >>> Does anyone use a system of source control for linux? > >>> I am going to write one if nobody else has a method they use > for version > >>> control > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> > >>> Bill Wheatley > >>> Director of Development > >>> AEPS INC > >>> Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner > >>> www.aeps.com > >>> www.aeps2000.com > >>> 954-472-6684 X303 > >>> ICQ: 417645 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > >>> To Unsubscribe visit > >>> http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf > >>_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >>'unsubscribe' in the body. > >> > >> > -- > >>Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > >>To Unsubscribe visit > >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/c f_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the >body. > > >--- >Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer >LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 > >--- --- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the >body. > > > >Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 >--- --- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ >To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarsts&bodysts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Source Control and Your Dog
I have never used perforce but I have used PVCS and did not like it. I recommend CVS; it's free and easily scriptable. On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Jay Jennings wrote: > We're battling at work over whether to switch to Perforce or PVCS for our > source control. If anyone has any thoughts on whether one or the other is > better in a CF coding environment, feel free to speak up. We have local and > remote developers, if that makes a difference. > > jay > > PS - We're switching away from VSS, which is where the dog comes in. > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Source Control and Your Dog
Is PVCS crap or something??? I know VSS is! -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Source Control and Your Dog I have never used perforce but I have used PVCS and did not like it. I recommend CVS; it's free and easily scriptable. On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Jay Jennings wrote: > We're battling at work over whether to switch to Perforce or PVCS for our > source control. If anyone has any thoughts on whether one or the other is > better in a CF coding environment, feel free to speak up. We have local and > remote developers, if that makes a difference. > > jay > > PS - We're switching away from VSS, which is where the dog comes in. > ~~ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Source Control and Your Dog
Jay Jennings wrote: >We're battling at work over whether to switch to Perforce or PVCS for our >source control. If anyone has any thoughts on whether one or the other is >better in a CF coding environment, feel free to speak up. We have local and >remote developers, if that makes a difference. > good old cvs I find great http://www.wincvs.org windows client http://www.cvsnt.org windows server tortise cvs is a great exporer shell ext which ties cvs directly into explorer... z ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Source Control and Your Dog
visual source safe or teamsite. i've used both of them. only heard good things about pvcs. so i guess any of the three would be ok. my $0.02 - Original Message - From: "Zac spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Source Control and Your Dog > Jay Jennings wrote: > > >We're battling at work over whether to switch to Perforce or PVCS for our > >source control. If anyone has any thoughts on whether one or the other is > >better in a CF coding environment, feel free to speak up. We have local and > >remote developers, if that makes a difference. > > > good old cvs I find great > > http://www.wincvs.org windows client > http://www.cvsnt.org windows server > > tortise cvs is a great exporer shell ext which ties cvs directly into > explorer... > > z > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Source Control and Your Dog
Microsoft's Visual Source Safe brought our development to its knees, so I understand where you're coming from. We switched to PVCS because it's our customer's choice. It's more clunkly that VSS, but it is robust - something VSS is most definitely not. And it does support remote developers- it has a web interface (with reduced features). However it really is only for use on Windows platforms - they advertise a Unix capability but you lose features and installing is a pain because their instructions are all wrong. Chris Norloff -- Original Message -- from: Jay Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:49:05 -0800 >We're battling at work over whether to switch to Perforce or PVCS for our >source control. If anyone has any thoughts on whether one or the other is >better in a CF coding environment, feel free to speak up. We have local and >remote developers, if that makes a difference. > > jay > >PS - We're switching away from VSS, which is where the dog comes in. > ~~ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [Best affordable source control solution]
CVS is free and IMHO the best "Marc Schipperheyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C059E5.41174200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm interested in acquiring a source control solution for Cold Fusion Studio. Unfortunately, the obvious candidate: VSS is unbelievably expensive if you buy it a s a seperate application ($499 per workstation or something like that). Is there any other viable solution out there? Kind regards, Marc Schipperheyn _ .e> ___ mr M.Schipperheyn MBA Technical Director___[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ .e> ___ Friesestraatweg 215a P.o. Box 2010__ tel: +31 (0)50 5757888 9704 CA Groningen__fax: +31 (0)50 5757889 The Netherlands http://www.thefactore.com _ .e> ___ Premium Partner for Allaire. Multimedia development _ with Macromedia Director, Authorware & Flash. < The future is technological, but it will not be a world of gray steel. > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C059E5.41174200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 all, I'm = interested in=20 acquiring a source control solution for Cold Fusion Studio. = Unfortunately, the=20 obvious candidate: VSS is unbelievably expensive if you buy it a s a = seperate=20 application ($499 per workstation or something like that). Is there any = other=20 viable solution out there? Kind=20 regards, Marc=20 Schipperheyn __<theFactor.e>___ .e> ___mr M.Schipperheyn MBATechnical = Director___ = [EMAIL PROTECTED]_ .e> ___ Friesestraatweg 215a P.o. Box 2010__ tel: +31 (0)50 57578889704 CA=20 Groningen__fax: +31 (0)50 = 5757889The=20 Netherlands http://www.thefactore.com_ .e> ___ =20 Premium=20 Partner for Allaire. Multimedia development _ =20 &= nbsp; with=20 Macromedia Director, Authorware & Flash.< The = future is=20 technological, but it will not be a world of gray steel. >=20 --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C059E5.41174200-- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
Yep... you could do it several ways...though not truly in homesite.All source control is is ensuring that two people cant edit the same file...so its a process of checking if the file is read-only before you go and make changes What source control does add is history and disaster recovery...in my opinion, even if you are working alone, source control should be used. -Original Message- From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 15:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? I mostly work at home with my flatmate, and we've just started our first major collaboration on developing a CMS. We don't have any source control software, and frankly we think most such software would be overkill. *All* we want is to be prompted that someone already has a file open when we try to open it. That's it. MS Office seems to have this built-in. Is it possible in Homesite? Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
Just shout at each other when youre opening a file. Works for us ;-) -Original Message- From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 15:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? I mostly work at home with my flatmate, and we've just started our first major collaboration on developing a CMS. We don't have any source control software, and frankly we think most such software would be overkill. *All* we want is to be prompted that someone already has a file open when we try to open it. That's it. MS Office seems to have this built-in. Is it possible in Homesite? Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 15:50 pm, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > All > source control is is ensuring that two people cant edit the same file... cvs and it's successors will happily let two people edit the same file (if you checkout non-read only). The trick is to cope well if you do. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
Why not consider using DW? I've been happily using Homesite for years, but recently I've made the jump, and if you're just looking to ensure that no one's writing over your code, then their check-in/check-out is ok I'm not saying that it's the greatest form of anything, but it's a decent solution. Scott -Original Message- From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? I mostly work at home with my flatmate, and we've just started our first major collaboration on developing a CMS. We don't have any source control software, and frankly we think most such software would be overkill. *All* we want is to be prompted that someone already has a file open when we try to open it. That's it. MS Office seems to have this built-in. Is it possible in Homesite? Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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At 15:53 15/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Just shout at each other when youre opening a file. >Works for us ;-) A crude, much-loved system ;-) But it's starting to hamper our work - we're both pretty quick. Also, you're scuppered when you try a multi-file Find/Replace... Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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At 11:03 15/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Why not consider using DW? We've just been experimenting with the MX 2004 trial. We just couldn't figure out the check in / check out system. Certainly not with the time we've got spare at the moment! Maybe when we're twiddling our thumbs, but on top of getting our heads round the DW "Site" system (I just dislike working with any of these kind of systems I've tried), there's all the other adjustments to make. I know Homesite inside-out, and it does everything I need - except this! Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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At 15:50 15/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Yep... you could do it several ways...though not truly in homesite.All >source control is is ensuring that two people cant edit the same file...so >its a process of checking if the file is read-only before you go and make >changes We thought of just manually changing files to read-only before editing them, but of course this stops YOU from editing it as well. Duh. But I'm not sure what you're saying here... a description of the basics of source control software, not suggestions for "manual" source control? >What source control does add is history and disaster recovery...in my >opinion, even if you are working alone, source control should be used. Homesite's backup systems and CD-Rs serve us well. A full "source control" app seems silly when all we want is a notification when someone else has the same file open. We're on the same network. How does MS Office do it so effortlessly? Do Word and Excel have a built-in CVS system?! Or is there just a bit of Windows scripting that can replicate this? The more I look at it, the more it seems odd that this basic little idea isn't built into Windows drive/file sharing. Bah. Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
I know you said you don't want to set up version control but I really would suggest CVS. We knew nothing about it and got it up and running in no time. You don't even have to do anything in Homesite to get it to work with CVS perfectly. Just install TortoiseCVS client and you have full access to update/commit files right within HomeSite by right-clicking on the folders. Whole thing could be set up in a few hours and is well worth it. My $0.02. Sam -- Blog: http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 15:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? I mostly work at home with my flatmate, and we've just started our first major collaboration on developing a CMS. We don't have any source control software, and frankly we think most such software would be overkill. *All* we want is to be prompted that someone already has a file open when we try to open it. That's it. MS Office seems to have this built-in. Is it possible in Homesite? Gyrus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
This functionality is built into Windows, it just depends on how applications implement file open/save. In Windows API you can open a file, read to it, and optionally close it. Multiple program can get a shared open of a file or programs can get an exclusive open of a file. If you do an exclusive open and leave it open, then the file is locked and windows won't let another program open it. This is how Office does it's file open/save. It even allows the program to be notified when the file is no longer locked, which is a very kewl feature not present in most source control systems. However, most text editors, including HomeSite, open a file, read to memory, and then close it. When the save, then open, write, and close. They don't leave it open and thus it can be modified by another program. AFAIK, there is no option to change this behavior. Sam -- Blog: http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? At 15:50 15/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Yep... you could do it several ways...though not truly in homesite.All >source control is is ensuring that two people cant edit the same file...so >its a process of checking if the file is read-only before you go and make >changes We thought of just manually changing files to read-only before editing them, but of course this stops YOU from editing it as well. Duh. But I'm not sure what you're saying here... a description of the basics of source control software, not suggestions for "manual" source control? >What source control does add is history and disaster recovery...in my >opinion, even if you are working alone, source control should be used. Homesite's backup systems and CD-Rs serve us well. A full "source control" app seems silly when all we want is a notification when someone else has the same file open. We're on the same network. How does MS Office do it so effortlessly? Do Word and Excel have a built-in CVS system?! Or is there just a bit of Windows scripting that can replicate this? The more I look at it, the more it seems odd that this basic little idea isn't built into Windows drive/file sharing. Bah. Gyrus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
At 11:40 15/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I know you said you don't want to set up version control but I really would >suggest CVS. We knew nothing about it and got it up and running in no time. >You don't even have to do anything in Homesite to get it to work with CVS >perfectly. Just install TortoiseCVS client and you have full access to >update/commit files right within HomeSite by right-clicking on the folders. Thanks, someone whose posts I respect on another list has also recommended TortoiseCVS, and given a very convincing "get into CVS even if it seems like overkill" argument. So, I may well check this out (no pun intended ;-). Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I wonder if you wrote a WHS script to use within HS, if you couldn't emulate this behavior ... using, say the OpenTextFile method, and setting the iomode to "ForWriting" or "ForAppending"? Since the file was open in a way that told the system it was going to be written to, if that wouldn't lock it for any other application. If such operations are part of the API, I've got to believer there is a way to get to that function through ADO. H. ~~ Howard Owens Internet Operations Coordinator Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co. www.venturacountystar.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: GoCatGo1956 ~~ > -Original Message- > From: Samuel Neff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:44 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? > > This functionality is built into Windows, it just depends on how > applications implement file open/save. > > In Windows API you can open a file, read to it, and optionally close it. > Multiple program can get a shared open of a file or programs can get an > exclusive open of a file. If you do an exclusive open and leave it open, > then the file is locked and windows won't let another program open it. > This > is how Office does it's file open/save. It even allows the program to be > notified when the file is no longer locked, which is a very kewl feature > not > present in most source control systems. However, most text editors, > including HomeSite, open a file, read to memory, and then close it. When > the save, then open, write, and close. They don't leave it open and thus > it > can be modified by another program. AFAIK, there is no option to change > this behavior. > > Sam > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
> We're on the same network. How does MS Office do it so effortlessly? Do > Word and Excel have a built-in CVS system?! Or is there just a bit of > Windows scripting that can replicate this? The more I look at it, the more > it seems odd that this basic little idea isn't built into Windows > drive/file sharing. Office does it in pretty much the same way that DW does it. When you open the file, it puts a .lck file there with the same name. Then when anyone else tries to open the file, Office looks for a file of the same name but with a .lck extension. If that exists, then it warns the user. -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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If that's the case, it sounds like you could write a script that creates a custom open dialog ... it would -- after you select the file you want to open, check to see if there is a file of the same name with .lck extension ... -- if yes, not let you open the file; -- if no, let you open the file and create a .lck file All developers would then need to ALWAYS use the custom open dialog to open files. H. ~~ Howard Owens Internet Operations Coordinator Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co. www.venturacountystar.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: GoCatGo1956 ~~ > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:12 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? > > > We're on the same network. How does MS Office do it so effortlessly? Do > > Word and Excel have a built-in CVS system?! Or is there just a bit of > > Windows scripting that can replicate this? The more I look at it, the > more > > it seems odd that this basic little idea isn't built into Windows > > drive/file sharing. > > Office does it in pretty much the same way that DW does it. When you open > the file, it puts a .lck file there with the same name. Then when anyone > else tries to open the file, Office looks for a file of the same name but > with a .lck extension. If that exists, then it warns the user. > > -Kevin > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
CVS is a great idea. I've been playing with it for the past few days and I'm really starting to like it. Earlier in this thread someone wrote: >Yep... you could do it several ways...though not truly in homesite.....All >source control is is ensuring that two people cant edit the same file...so >its a process of checking if the file is read-only before you go and make >changes which isn't exactly true with CVS. It doesn't keep 2 people from editing the same file, it keeps 2 changes on a file from interfering with each other. It will allow you to both edit a file, but make changes to separate parts, which is a huge advantage. TortiseCVS is a great tool to use with it that does about everything you'll need. WinCVS is another client tool that, while not as cool, is a different interface with more CVS control. I also recommend downloading WinMerge (whether or not you use source control) to track changes between 2 versions of a file or even a whole directory of files. It's one of the best utils out there. http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ http://www.wincvs.org/ http://winmerge.sourceforge.net/ And as a bonus, here's the ultimate CVS reading material: http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html -nathan strutz -Original Message- From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? At 11:40 15/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I know you said you don't want to set up version control but I really would >suggest CVS. We knew nothing about it and got it up and running in no time. >You don't even have to do anything in Homesite to get it to work with CVS >perfectly. Just install TortoiseCVS client and you have full access to >update/commit files right within HomeSite by right-clicking on the folders. Thanks, someone whose posts I respect on another list has also recommended TortoiseCVS, and given a very convincing "get into CVS even if it seems like overkill" argument. So, I may well check this out (no pun intended ;-). Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev/ PGP key available [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
But does this TortoiseCVS setup work via RDS That's what I'd like to see. I've used VSS with CFStudio before and driveshares are required for remote servers which is much slower than RDS...at least on my LAN it is. Doug -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? I know you said you don't want to set up version control but I really would suggest CVS. We knew nothing about it and got it up and running in no time. You don't even have to do anything in Homesite to get it to work with CVS perfectly. Just install TortoiseCVS client and you have full access to update/commit files right within HomeSite by right-clicking on the folders. Whole thing could be set up in a few hours and is well worth it. My $0.02. Sam -- Blog: http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 15:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? I mostly work at home with my flatmate, and we've just started our first major collaboration on developing a CMS. We don't have any source control software, and frankly we think most such software would be overkill. *All* we want is to be prompted that someone already has a file open when we try to open it. That's it. MS Office seems to have this built-in. Is it possible in Homesite? Gyrus _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
No, CVS does not work with RDS. It has built in support for about 7 different protocols but since RDS is Macromedia proprietary that is not one of them. I really don't understand why you'd want to anyways.. CVS provides a complete solution for both version control and client/server communication over TCP/IP. RDS bugginess is one of the reasons we moved to CVS. Sam -- Blog: http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? But does this TortoiseCVS setup work via RDS That's what I'd like to see. I've used VSS with CFStudio before and driveshares are required for remote servers which is much slower than RDS...at least on my LAN it is. Doug [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Well, one minute though - it's not really fair since RDS is a means to remotely create, edit, and delete files. CVS is for source control and code manangement. It's apples and oranges. That being said, RDS is NOT perfect, however I think it works quite well most of the time. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Ray, I agree with you about RDS, but one thing bugs me sometimes. If for some reason RDS fails to connect on a save operation it gives a timeout. Then (often) under no circumstances can you save the file or reconnect to the host - nor can I even close CF studio. I have to kill it from the task manager window and open CF studio again. That's happened to me for years. Do others have this problem? -Mark -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? Well, one minute though - it's not really fair since RDS is a means to remotely create, edit, and delete files. CVS is for source control and code manangement. It's apples and oranges. That being said, RDS is NOT perfect, however I think it works quite well most of the time. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
yuppers. We have diehard RDS users here that abhor drive shares...on a windows network. Yeah, soucecontrol and transports are apples and oranges for sure. It would be neat if Macr would update RDS to interact with maybe at least two popular source control engines. That's all I was alluding to really. Doug -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ? Well, one minute though - it's not really fair since RDS is a means to remotely create, edit, and delete files. CVS is for source control and code manangement. It's apples and oranges. That being said, RDS is NOT perfect, however I think it works quite well most of the time. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: "lite" source control for Homesite+ ?
Yes, this is one of the problems I have as well. Another one is flakey connections. Your HS+ can go off the deep end if your connection to your remote box isn't quite perfect. MACR is aware of this and I bet we will see a solution in a future version, if there is one. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
