RE: licensing software

[Jae Kang]

LDMS (LanDesk Management Suite) from Intel is much more solid product.
SMS (ordinary product as usual from MS ) is very poor.

Also don't forget that if you have very large slow WAN connections,
enabling S/W licensing function is not recommended.
WILL NOT WORK.

Jae-Joon Kang - Senior Network Integration Engineer.
Ipex Information Technology Group
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Santeramo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2000 3:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: licensing software
> 
> 
> Need a software package that will inventory all the software 
> and hardware
> on my NT based network.  Any suggestions?  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PIX Firewall show connection counters

[Apoorva S.Malavia]

I need to see the config on the fw.
 
"Bishara, Anan" wrote:
Hello everybody, This maybe of topic of this message
but it is related to it
somehow. I have a DNS in my DMZ zone, I am facing problem is that DNS
stop
resolving names after a while and I have to clear Xlate, where it will
work
for a while and then stops again. Anybody have any suggestion or face
this
problem?
Regards,
Anan
-Original Message-
From: Apoorva S.Malavia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX Firewall show connection counters
more precisely
clear xlate *
Mark Holloway wrote:
> Yes, "clear xlate" is what you want.  Clear xlate will knock
people off
but
> more than likely they will "refresh" their browser if it's web base. 
FTP
> connection may timeout and telnet session will drop.  You said
"you might
as
> well reboot if you're gonna clear xlate" - but the PIX takes about
a
minute
> to reboot as opposed to clear xlate being an instant function. 
In an
> environment where I work we have 5000+ users on the inside interface
using
> the outside (internet) and dmz interfaces.  A reboot would get
me fired!
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jorge Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Pete Ruttman (adminpr)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 9:32 PM
> Subject: RE: PIX Firewall show connection counters
>
> > I don't have a pix manual handy, but if memory serves, the command
is
> clear
> > xlate
> >
> > I'm sure you all will let me know if I'm wrong :->
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of
> > Jorge Rodriguez
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 7:21 PM
> > To: Pete Ruttman (adminpr); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: PIX Firewall show connection counters
> >
> > Did you try " Clear Counters"  ?
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Pete Ruttman (adminpr)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: PIX Firewall show connection counters
> >
> >
> > > >Is there any commands to clear the counters on a PIX ?
> > > >I amtrying to reset to 0 the numbers displayed by
> > > >"show connections".
> > > >
> > > >It seems, the only way is a F/W reboot, to clear the
> > > >`show connections` counters in order to monitor max
> > > >number of TCP/IP connection through the PIX
> > > >
> > > My gut reaction is that isn't possible since the show connections
is
> > totaling the current xlate connections the PIX is doing. 
You can use
> clear
> > xlate to clear out the xlate connections but then of course you
are
> knocking
> > people off so you might as well reboot.
> > >
> > > pete
> > >
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Re: Errata for Giles Book, 1st Edition

[Brad Ellis]

Throw the book out, use it as a paperweight, or put it on Ebay...then go buy
the book by Mr. Caslow.

-Brad
"Darren Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hello All,
>
> Does anyone have the URL for the errata for this book, I had it a long
> time ago but have lost the bookmarks.
>
> Cisco CCIE Study Guide by Roosevelt Giles.
>
> Darren
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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

[Albert]

Yep, I will second that.

I was hired to be the Network and Facility Administrator.  I got into
trouble (kind of) because I got tired of hearing one of the junior Sys Admin
complaining about MS when he was repairing a server and help him out.  My
boss came by and told me to get back to my stuff and let the junior admin do
his job.  He said I was hired to do Cisco and not MS.  I am starting to tell
the other staffs (users) that as soon as it come out of the wall jack, it is
not my responsibility and they have to talk to the other MIS staffs.

By the way, I only have two months experiences. (no IT before this job)
Live in a high cost and low IT wage area, Vancouver Canada,  and make more
than $29,000us.

Get motivated, I mean studying.  Read everything on this list.  If you see
ANY thing that you don't understand, find the answer in CCO.  Practice at
home every night.  Put yourself on a schedule to get your CCNP in four
months.  THAN go and have a talk with your boss.  If you know your stuff
(even with less than 1 year experiences), you will be able to find a fun job
that pays well and is challenging.  I did.   I just finish setting up a VoIP
(with help of people on this list).  I am now doing the planning for a 144
VoIP setup, collocation for our server farm, planning a redesign of our
entire network.

Oh, start collecting business cards.

Albert



""Mark Holloway"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
001501bfcea8$3467aae0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001501bfcea8$3467aae0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> NOTE: I am not a CCIE yet.
>
> I'm 26, work as a Level 2 WAN admin (out of 4 levels, and getting promoted
> to a 3 shortly), and make a base of $60k (and a $3k sign on bonus when I
> started) + $12k added to my salary for being on call 24x7x365.  This is in
> Las Vegas which is typically considerd a very low-end of the marketplace
> (because the Casinos are cheap as hell!  Never work in one! I did and it
> sucked!  Besides, they are ALL Token Ring because of the sheel number of
> IBM/AS400 dominance.  I now work 10 miles away from the strip).  I only
get
> called once or twice a week, usually I can resolve the issue from home.
> Prior to this job I had my MCSE and CCNA (Jan 1999, worked at the
Tropicana
> Hotel as a Network Admin), although I now realize more than ever that
hands
> on is the only true measure of ones abilities.  When I completed my MCSE I
> knew right away I had wasted 10 weeks of my time taking 6 exams in
relation
> to my career, but I did learn alot about NT and was glad for my own sake
of
> knowledge, but nothing I would want to brag about to other "System
admins".
> In 99% of the REAL network jobs, the Network Administrator is not
> responsible for Servers or operating systems.  The only concern should be
> packets, cells, circuits, troublshooting, and monitoring, among a few
> others.  Forget Exchange, SQL Server, NT Domains, and all that other crap.
> Don't get me wrong, it's good to know, but only for your own knowledge and
> troubleshooting purposes, don't let your employer make your responsible
for
> that crap.  A Senior Level Network Administrator should never have to
worry
> about the work of System Administrators and an Operations department.
BTW,
> I heard Sprint Long  Distance (not Sprint the loca carrier or Paranet/ENS)
> is offering CCIEs $120k + $30k sign on bonus.  This came straight from one
> of their enigneers.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kevin S. Mahler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
>
>
> > No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote:
> > >3com in Milpitas pays that much?  Dang..
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Ryan Ward
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
> > >
> > >
> > >FYI...
> > >
> > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both
> got
> > >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also
> have
> > >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little
> > >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of
raises.
> > >
> > >-Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Brad Ellis
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
> > >
> > >
> > >Chad,
> > >
> > >With 3 months of experience what do you expect???  $150k/yr?  You still
> need
> > >to "prove" yourself.  No offense, but the certs you have aren't very
hard
> to
> > >get.  If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places
won't
> pay
> > >OT these days.  Give yourself a year or two in the business.  After
that
> > >experience, plus a CCNP y

Free Documentation CD for newbies

[Albert]

Hello everyone,

I have 6 Documentation CDs.  They are old (found when cleaning up) but still
good to study with.
3 - December, 99
1 - November, 99
1 - June, 99
1 - May, 99

I also have some Cisco Configuration Guides that came with the 3600s and
2900s.  I will pay for the post in Canada (sorry Yanks).  The first ones to
reply off list will get them.  Please only newbie.  I remember how hard to
find studying material when I started.

Albert




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RE: PIX Firewall show connection counters

[Bishara, Anan]

Hello everybody, This maybe of topic of this message but it is related to it
somehow. I have a DNS in my DMZ zone, I am facing problem is that DNS stop
resolving names after a while and I have to clear Xlate, where it will work
for a while and then stops again. Anybody have any suggestion or face this
problem? 
Regards,
Anan

-Original Message-
From: Apoorva S.Malavia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX Firewall show connection counters


more precisely
clear xlate *



Mark Holloway wrote:

> Yes, "clear xlate" is what you want.  Clear xlate will knock people off
but
> more than likely they will "refresh" their browser if it's web base.  FTP
> connection may timeout and telnet session will drop.  You said "you might
as
> well reboot if you're gonna clear xlate" - but the PIX takes about a
minute
> to reboot as opposed to clear xlate being an instant function.  In an
> environment where I work we have 5000+ users on the inside interface using
> the outside (internet) and dmz interfaces.  A reboot would get me fired!
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jorge Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Pete Ruttman (adminpr)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 9:32 PM
> Subject: RE: PIX Firewall show connection counters
>
> > I don't have a pix manual handy, but if memory serves, the command is
> clear
> > xlate
> >
> > I'm sure you all will let me know if I'm wrong :->
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Jorge Rodriguez
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 7:21 PM
> > To: Pete Ruttman (adminpr); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: PIX Firewall show connection counters
> >
> > Did you try " Clear Counters"  ?
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Pete Ruttman (adminpr)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: PIX Firewall show connection counters
> >
> >
> > > >Is there any commands to clear the counters on a PIX ?
> > > >I amtrying to reset to 0 the numbers displayed by
> > > >"show connections".
> > > >
> > > >It seems, the only way is a F/W reboot, to clear the
> > > >`show connections` counters in order to monitor max
> > > >number of TCP/IP connection through the PIX
> > > >
> > > My gut reaction is that isn't possible since the show connections is
> > totaling the current xlate connections the PIX is doing.  You can use
> clear
> > xlate to clear out the xlate connections but then of course you are
> knocking
> > people off so you might as well reboot.
> > >
> > > pete
> > >
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Re: Cisco's uOne ???!!!!!

[Apoorva S.Malavia]

I second on that.
Kenny Sallee wrote:
Maybe you should post a specific problem.  This
list is not a free
consultancy mechanism.  Most of us are consultants who spend most
of our
time billing for the info you are requesting.  If you want to
pay I will
gladly spend time helping youIf you post a problem, I will help
if I can
and if I have the free time.
Kenny
- Original Message -
From: "kaushik khakhar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:15 AM
Subject: Cisco's uOne ???!
> Hi Friends,
>
> I am in no doubt on the expertise and knowledge of this group. Fortunately
> or Unfortunately(I Dont know), I have not got a single answer on
my last 2
> questions. Today, I am on an edge, I need to implement Unified
> messaging(uOne and AS5300). And all of you are requested to freely!!
send
> your experience and skills. I need,
>
> VoIP/FaxoIP/AS5300/uOne and  much more.
>
> Hope to get replies.
>
> Thanks ,
>
> Kaushik
> 
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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

[Dale Holmes]

Thomas: CCIE required skill #1 - Attention to detail - Chad only has 3 
months experience, James has 3 yrs. experience, makes 27K (not 29, again 
that is Chad), and is pathetically under paid.

James: Call the folks in the ad below if they are anywhere near you. They 
are looking for someone in the Des Moines area. The ad I've pasted below 
pays around $70k. They have more jobs in IA. Call them, get one, make money, 
be happy... If you take one of their jobs, tell them they owe me a finders 
fee! [=`)

To all: Remember that tech jobs are a dime a dozen, no matter what the HR 
people say. You are worth what you will settle for... Weigh your options 
against your own personal time and budget constraints. Of course, you 
probably should not QUIT a job until you have landed another one, BUT if you 
are as dramatically underpaid as James, and you have the skills (and certs), 
RUN SCREAMING IN TERROR!!! FAX your resume at every opportunity!!!


Job ad below***

Prestigious Des Moines client seeks Network Operations Manager to lead staff 
of six PC operators. Responsibilities include performance analysis and 
assessment by using performance tools and working toward problem resolution. 
Your staff will be responsible for scheduled maintnance to prevent component 
failures during business hours, printer administration and supporting change 
control processes. The successful candidate will work with GroupWise 
electronic mail and FORE data communications equipment. Fulltime salaried 
position to $70K with excellent company benefits. For more information on 
this position or other opportunities in the Des Moines area, call Mark 
Whitcomb at 515/223-9525
email resume to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Requisition Number: 407997

Ideal technical background will include Novell, Windows NT and CISCO 
routers.

RHIConsulting is an E.E.O.
Please contact us - Address: 1200 35th Street Suite 600, West Des Moines, IA 
50266-1906
Phone: (515) 223-9525
Fax: (515) 221-9771


>From: Thomas Trygar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Thomas Trygar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:30:38 -0400
>
>NEVER QUIT A JOB. 29000 is low, but you only have 3 months experience. Look
>and plan interviews while still getting work experience from present
>employer.
>
>Tom Trygar
>
>Dale Holmes wrote:
>
> > Yes. Quit today! Go to www.dice.com and find another job in your area.
> >
> > Where do you live anyway?
> >
> > >From: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
> > >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this
> > >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value
> > >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow
> > >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with
> > >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting
> > >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ??
> > >
> > >*
> > >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is
> > >underpaid no matter
> > >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a
> > >CCNA. At least it was 3
> > >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan
> > >development.
> > >
> > >Derek S. Winchester
> > >Sr. Wan Engineer
> > >Data Communications Department
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Phone: 410-953-4887
> > >Cell: 443-562-3456
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM
> > >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
> > >
> > >
> > >$29k is very low in the IT industry.
> > >
> > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should
> > >be making 40-50k
> > >
> > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each
> > >other.
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM
> > >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I
> > >have about 3 months of
> > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs
> > >on the side)
> > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and
> > >CCDA. I am currently
> > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus
> > >overtime. This seems low
> > >to
> > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar
> > >situation is making.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
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RE: EIGRP contiguous AS

[Chuck Larrieu]

Excellent!

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kenny Sallee
Sent:   Monday, June 05, 2000 1:49 PM
To: Gerwin Boschloo; 'Luong, David'; 'Robert Padjen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: EIGRP contiguous AS

Sure it will work -- if you redistribute. This is where you will possible
see routing loops.

 You can also create a tunnel interface on both EIGRP routers and share
EIGRP info that way.  This way they will both look like they are directly
connected.  Here's a possible config for the tunnel:

 (e0) r1(s0) -(s0) r2(s1) -(s0)r3(e0)

r1 and r3 e0 interfaces are in the 172.16.0.0 address space
All serial interfaces are in the 192.168.0.0 address space
r1 and r3 are running eigrp
r2 is running igrp with someone else

r1:
int e0
ip address 172.16.2.1 255.255.255.0

int tunnel 0
ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
tunnel source 
tunnel destination 


router eigrp 100
network 172.16.0.0
no auto

r3:
int tunnel 0
ip address 172.16.1.2 255.255.255.0
tunnel source 
tunnel destination 

router eigrp 100
network 172.16.0.0
no auto


Kenny

- Original Message -
From: "Gerwin Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Luong, David'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Robert Padjen'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:16 PM
Subject: RE: EIGRP contiguous AS


> EIGRP and IGRP are both Interior Gateway Protocols that are used inside a
> AS. Therefore, when you want to connect different AS'es, you need an
> Exterior Gateway Protocol like BGP. Within BGP you are routing to
different
> AS'es therefore the AS'es should be unique.
>
> Therefore: EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 50     EIGRP AS 1 will not
work.
>
> Gerwin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luong, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:14 AM
> To: 'Robert Padjen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: EIGRP contiguous AS
>
>
>
> If I remember correct, AS numbers do not have to be contiguous unless if
you
> want automatic redistributing between EIGRP and IGRP.  If you have
different
> AS across boundaries then you will need to have to manually redistribute..
.
>
> My $0.02...
>
> David Luong, CCNA,Network+,A+,i-Net+
> Telecommunications Analyst
> Insurance Corporation of B.C.
> Vancouver, B.C CANADA
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Padjen [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  ]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 3:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: EIGRP contiguous AS
>
>
> I have an interesting question for the group, although
> it is not directly related to any of the current
> exams.
>
> Does an EIGRP AS have to be contiguous or can it be on
> two sides of an IGRP 'AS'. I note that the use of the
> term AS is a mis-nomer for both protocols, but...
>
> For example, does:
>
> EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 1      EIGRP AS 1
>
> pose a problem?
>
> Does:
>
> EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 50     EIGRP AS 1
>
> My belief is that it could work, but it breaks the
> concept of an AS and could lead to routing topology
> table problems. Any takers?
>
> (I'll be working with my team in the lab, but thought
> it was an interesting thought questions.)
>
> Nothing but net!
>
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Re: VLAN problems with Catalyst 3548G

[Apoorva S.Malavia]

Is VLAN 1 up ?
Lance Hubbard wrote:
Got a new toy to play with...a Cat 3548G.  Problem
is, that while creating a
new VLAN (in this case I chose "VLAN 100"), The VLAN interface seems
to have
a love affair with the shutdown/Administratively down state. 
Anyone had
similar hurdles to clear?  (besides the obvious "no shutdown",
it is
ineffective)
Cheers,
Lance

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loopback for IPSEC and DLSW

[Mohan]

Hi, will there be any problem using the same loopback interface for dlsw and
ipsec peers?  

thanks 

mohan

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Re: new version of 802.1q?

[Eric Fairfield]

We refer to it as Spanning Forest at Ctron.  
We have implemented it but using proprietary extensions at this point much like 
Cisco has.  As soon as 802.1s is standard we will do the same.

  "Andy Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote in message 01a401bfcf28$864e67b0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:01a401bfcf28$864e67b0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  spot on - draft available at:
   
  ftp://p8021:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/8021/s-drafts/d4/802-1s-d4.pdf
   
  don't know about spanning forest 
  tho...;-)
   
  cheers
   
  Andy
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Eric 
Fairfield 
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:38 
PM
Subject: Re: new version of 
802.1q?

I believe 802.1s is the standards group working 
on Spanning Forest (per vlan stp)

  "Andy Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote in message 01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  have been having (semi) argument at work 
  about dot1q versus ISL
   
  my understanding is that dot 1q runs one 
  instance of spanning tree per trunk, rather than per vlan as ISL does - 
  hence if one VLAN is blocking then dot1q disables the entire 
  trunk
   
  A collegue of mine reckons that dot 1q now 
  does as per ISL and runs STP on a per-vlan basis, but the 802.1q spec has 
  changed without the # changing
   
  someone help me out here...
   
  thanks
   
  Andy
   
   

Re: Frame Relay on back-to-back routers (without FR switches)

[Joe Martin]

You can do this.

Here's the basics:

R1
interface Serial1/0
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no fair-queue
 frame-relay interface-dlci 16


R2
frame-relay switching
interface Serial1/0
 ip address 192.168.2.2 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no fair-queue
 frame-relay interface-dlci 16
 frame-relay intf-type dce

ping 192.168.2.2

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms

JOE
CCIE 5917


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> Is it possible to use a T1 as the physical layer, and
> configure frame relay over it (instead of something
> like HDLC) ?
> I want to know if we can run Frame Relay between two
> routers back to back without FR switches ?
> Or can and should one of the router be configured as a
> switch ?
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Re: Very interesting RIP issue

[Nimesh Vakharia]

> So, are you suggesting that the RIP update be passed through 16 router hops?  I am
> not the routing protocol expert of this group, but I know that you will only
> update your neighboring router routers.

Oh updates, are all broadcast if its a broadcast medium, and u
specify nieghbor if its a non broadcast network 

> know how a ttl of 1 works, when most routers decrement before looking at the
> packet.

TTL of 1 I guess the router will process the packet and if its
supposed to be forwarded will decrement TTL by 1 and the packet should
expire at the next hop.

Nimesh.

> 
> Nimesh Vakharia wrote:
> 
> > If I remember this right, RIP scales upto 16 hops... after that you can
> > ICMP host unreachables.. so max TTL would be 16..
> >
> > Nimesh.
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Lance Simon wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I was wrong about it not being in the IP header.  The ttl is in the ip
> > > header.  RIP updates are transported over UDP port 520.  Now, what do you
> > > think the ttl for a RIP update should be, Nimesh?  And why?
> > >
> > > Nimesh Vakharia wrote:
> > >
> > > > It would be very interesting to see these traces. The switch must be doing
> > > > something very wierd. A UDP header consists of Source Port, Dest Port,
> > > > Length and the checksum... TTL's are usually L3 and a max TTL 2 indicates
> > > > somethings really screwed up.
> > > >
> > > > Nimesh.
> > > >
> > > >  On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Lance Simon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Actually, if the switch is routing, it will decrement the hop or ttl
> > > > > value.  And the ttl on a RIP update is in the UDP header.  If you are
> > > > > not convinced I will send you the traces.  And finally, as Travis
> > > > > stated, a RIP update should only have max ttl of 2.
> > > > > Lance
> > > > >
> > > > > Cormac Long wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Not sure what the nature of the problem is here, but
> > > > > > here are a couple of points to note:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. The TTL field is in the IP header and not the UDP
> > > > > > header.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. The TTL is only decremented after the packet
> > > > > > crosses a router hop ( a switch hop does NOT count).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. The inital TTL=15, and it gets decremented after
> > > > > > that as it crosses routers. This makes it surprising
> > > > > > that you're seeing TTL=1 or 2. It implies alot of
> > > > > > router hops.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cormac
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cormac Long, CCSI#21600
> > > > > > http://www.cormaclong.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Lance Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi group!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am a lurker at best here, but today I saw
> > > > > > > something that really
> > > > > > > puzzled me.  While I was looking at a trace file I
> > > > > > > noticed something
> > > > > > > unusual about the ttl values for RIP updates on a
> > > > > > > PacketEngines switch.
> > > > > > > This switch is connected to a Cat5000 and I had a
> > > > > > > sniffer in between the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > two.
> > > > > > > My understanding of RIP is that the ttl value = 2
> > > > > > > and that it is
> > > > > > > decremented as it enters a switch/router and then it
> > > > > > > is looked at.
> > > > > > > Therefore, a ttl=2 would become ttl=1 before the
> > > > > > > packet is even looked
> > > > > > > at.  If the ttl=1 it would become ttl=0 and then,
> > > > > > > instead of being
> > > > > > > looked at, it would be discarded.  Is this correct?
> > > > > > > First, let me say that the Packet Engines 2200
> > > > > > > switch is a very good box
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and it is communicating well with the Cat5k.  The
> > > > > > > RIP updates are being
> > > > > > > handled well by both sides, but;  when looking at
> > > > > > > the sniff, the ttl
> > > > > > > value from the packet Engines box is set to =1.  How
> > > > > > > can this be?
> > > > > > > Do I totally misunderstand the UDP ttl value in
> > > > > > > relationship to RIP?
> > > > > > > Any insights would be helpful.   BTW, I have got a
> > > > > > > call into a
> > > > > > > PacketEngines s/w engineer and am waiting for a
> > > > > > > response.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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Re: FTP Throughput

[Apoorva S.Malavia]

I think they might be traffic shaping your ftp traffic.
 
-Apoorva
"venkat_r"@hexaware.co.in wrote:
Thanx for ur reply Guilherme,
 We have tried FTP during different times of
the day from different
desktops and servers.. These servers provide better throughput
on other
point to point lines.
 Well, we only suspect that our ISP could have
done some traffic
shaping to limit FTP to a certain limit. But I am not too sure how
they
could do it on a per session basis.. I know we can restrict traffic
not to
peak beyond a certain limit for a given protocol, but if this alone
is
done, then simultaneous File transfers would have hampered the throughput
of all the sessions. The throughput remains the same irrespective of
the
number of sessions opened simultaneously
Venkat
"Spolidoro, Guilherme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 23/05/2000
16:27:50
To:   Venkataramanaiah R/stg_che/India/HIL, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:  RE: FTP Throughput
FTP runs over TCP, that requires an acknoledge for n packets (window).
On a
WAN environment, if you have plenty of BW, delay is going to be one
of the
limiting factors. Other factors are: I/O on your PC, quality of the
TCP/IP
stack (I have Win95 and we connect through a DS-3 to the Internet,
but I
cannot get any faster than 130-150Kbps), etc.
If you try to do the same thing using Linux you might have a better
result.
Win95 and NT 4.0 (not sure what releases) they have a bug on the TCP
stack.
It doesn't negotiate/change the windows size properly. Did you ever
noticed
that sometimes it's faster stop a download and start a new one? That's
the
reason, if the tcp stack in Win95/NT worked properly, it should change
the
window size on the "run", but it doesn't (sliding window).
Guilherme Spolidoro
CCNA, CCDA, CCSA, CCSE
Telecom Analyst
Unisys
A&T - I.T.
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-Original Message-
From: "venkat_r"@hexaware.co.in [mailto:"venkat_r"@hexaware.co.in]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 2:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTP Throughput
Hello Friends,
 We face a peculiar problem in our company.We
have a 512K access
speed to Internet. Our ISP is VSNL in India. When we do an FTP, we
never
achieve a throughput greater than 100Kbps...Very funny thing here is
we
peak to 512K on our local link to VSNL, if we initiate simultaneous
FTPs.
But for all the FTP sessions, the maximum throughput achieved is only
80 to
100 Kbps.
 Is there anyway to restrict the throughput
to a limit for a single
session in the internet cloud, which could be creating this problem
for
us.Can some expert throw some light on this please.?
Warm regards and Thanks in advance
Venkat
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Re: EIGRP contiguous AS

[Joe Martin]

> Therefore: EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 50     EIGRP AS 1 will not
work.
This will work.  You just need to do redistribution from one to the other
and remember the fact that the IGRP domain in the middle is FLSM based.

JOE
CCIE 5917

"Gerwin Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> EIGRP and IGRP are both Interior Gateway Protocols that are used inside a
> AS. Therefore, when you want to connect different AS'es, you need an
> Exterior Gateway Protocol like BGP. Within BGP you are routing to
different
> AS'es therefore the AS'es should be unique.
>
> Therefore: EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 50     EIGRP AS 1 will not
work.
>
> Gerwin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luong, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:14 AM
> To: 'Robert Padjen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: EIGRP contiguous AS
>
>
>
> If I remember correct, AS numbers do not have to be contiguous unless if
you
> want automatic redistributing between EIGRP and IGRP.  If you have
different
> AS across boundaries then you will need to have to manually
redistribute...
>
> My $0.02...
>
> David Luong, CCNA,Network+,A+,i-Net+
> Telecommunications Analyst
> Insurance Corporation of B.C.
> Vancouver, B.C CANADA
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Padjen [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  ]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 3:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: EIGRP contiguous AS
>
>
> I have an interesting question for the group, although
> it is not directly related to any of the current
> exams.
>
> Does an EIGRP AS have to be contiguous or can it be on
> two sides of an IGRP 'AS'. I note that the use of the
> term AS is a mis-nomer for both protocols, but...
>
> For example, does:
>
> EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 1      EIGRP AS 1
>
> pose a problem?
>
> Does:
>
> EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 50     EIGRP AS 1
>
> My belief is that it could work, but it breaks the
> concept of an AS and could lead to routing topology
> table problems. Any takers?
>
> (I'll be working with my team in the lab, but thought
> it was an interesting thought questions.)
>
> Nothing but net!
>
> =
> Robert Padjen
>
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Errata for Giles Book, 1st Edition

[Darren Ward]

Hello All,

Does anyone have the URL for the errata for this book, I had it a long
time ago but have lost the bookmarks.

Cisco CCIE Study Guide by Roosevelt Giles.

Darren

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Re: FREE CCN BOOK - YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Apoorva S.Malavia]

didn't work.
Larry Osei-Kwaku wrote:
OK folks this link should take you right to the forms
if you don't want to take the tour.. Please watch the
word wrap. Highlight both lines and copy and paste in
your browser.
Larry
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/lm/show_form.pl?95899398230688476562580538&TEST-166XC
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Re: EIGRP contiguous AS

[Kenny Sallee]

Sure it will work -- if you redistribute. This is where you will possible
see routing loops.

 You can also create a tunnel interface on both EIGRP routers and share
EIGRP info that way.  This way they will both look like they are directly
connected.  Here's a possible config for the tunnel:

 (e0) r1(s0) -(s0) r2(s1) -(s0)r3(e0)

r1 and r3 e0 interfaces are in the 172.16.0.0 address space
All serial interfaces are in the 192.168.0.0 address space
r1 and r3 are running eigrp
r2 is running igrp with someone else

r1:
int e0
ip address 172.16.2.1 255.255.255.0

int tunnel 0
ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
tunnel source 
tunnel destination 


router eigrp 100
network 172.16.0.0
no auto

r3:
int tunnel 0
ip address 172.16.1.2 255.255.255.0
tunnel source 
tunnel destination 

router eigrp 100
network 172.16.0.0
no auto


Kenny

- Original Message -
From: "Gerwin Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Luong, David'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Robert Padjen'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:16 PM
Subject: RE: EIGRP contiguous AS


> EIGRP and IGRP are both Interior Gateway Protocols that are used inside a
> AS. Therefore, when you want to connect different AS'es, you need an
> Exterior Gateway Protocol like BGP. Within BGP you are routing to
different
> AS'es therefore the AS'es should be unique.
>
> Therefore: EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 50     EIGRP AS 1 will not
work.
>
> Gerwin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luong, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:14 AM
> To: 'Robert Padjen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: EIGRP contiguous AS
>
>
>
> If I remember correct, AS numbers do not have to be contiguous unless if
you
> want automatic redistributing between EIGRP and IGRP.  If you have
different
> AS across boundaries then you will need to have to manually redistribute..
.
>
> My $0.02...
>
> David Luong, CCNA,Network+,A+,i-Net+
> Telecommunications Analyst
> Insurance Corporation of B.C.
> Vancouver, B.C CANADA
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Padjen [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  ]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 3:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: EIGRP contiguous AS
>
>
> I have an interesting question for the group, although
> it is not directly related to any of the current
> exams.
>
> Does an EIGRP AS have to be contiguous or can it be on
> two sides of an IGRP 'AS'. I note that the use of the
> term AS is a mis-nomer for both protocols, but...
>
> For example, does:
>
> EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 1      EIGRP AS 1
>
> pose a problem?
>
> Does:
>
> EIGRP AS 1      IGRP AS 50     EIGRP AS 1
>
> My belief is that it could work, but it breaks the
> concept of an AS and could lead to routing topology
> table problems. Any takers?
>
> (I'll be working with my team in the lab, but thought
> it was an interesting thought questions.)
>
> Nothing but net!
>
> =
> Robert Padjen
>
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RE: SNA device types

[Lima, Frederico]

PU 2.1 is not APPN.   

PU 2.1 is more a LEN node ( low-entry node ) and it can exist without APPN.

PU 2.1 is the PU type required for the LU 6.2 sessions.


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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SNA device types


Darren,
   you are mostly right, but a bit mixed up.

In SNA there are PU types and LU types.

The PU type describes the function/capabilities of the device within the SNA
hierarchy:
PU types:
5VTAM (SSCP)
4FEP
3 there is no PU type 3
23274/3174 cluster controller, 3777 RJE station, other devices
(typically
connected to a FEP by a leased line running SDLC 1974-1980s) . Token ring
SNA
gateway (1990s). SNA gateway on a LAN with a CISC router running DLSw to
another
Cisco router on a token ring (1990s-). Any SNA gateway product running on a
server will be a PU type 2.
1I've forgotten what that was.


then when peer to peer networking came into SNA:
2.1  APPN (advanced program to program networking) supports independant LUs.
Includes more recent 3174 etc cluster controllers.


The type of the LU describes what data stream it uses to communicate. ie the
format of the data sent from one LU to another.

LU types
new-fangled ones:
6.1 application to application  CICS  - not used much
6.2 application to application (APPC)
classic ones:
3  printer attached to a 3174 cluster controller using 3270 data stream
2  3270 display terminal (3278, 3179 etc) your basic "green screen", or
emulation of one on a PC
1  SNA character set  - printer or RJE station
0  content of data stream not specified (this was used for program to
program
communication before APPC/APPN  came in eg Solve:Netmaster INMC, an Aussie
product)

SLU :
in classical SNA a session is between two LUs. One of the LUs is the Primary
(PLU), the other the Secondary (SLU). The primary LU is the application on
the
mainframe, such as CICS, TSO etc. The secondary LU is the user's terminal.

Hope this isn't too overwhelming and it helps. Feel free to ask more
questions!

Jenny


---
Question for all:

In the SNA hierarchy there are defined types 5,4,2 and 1 nodes.

>From what I've read so far I've assembled the following:

Type 5IBM Mainframe (Runs VTAM) SSCP
& PU5
Type 43705/3725/3745/3746 FEP/Communications ControllersPU4
Type 23174 Cluster Controller   PU2
Type 2Token Ring SNA GatewayPU2
Type 1Token Ring Device LU
Type 1TN3270 Terminals  SLU

Type 5 & 2Cisco Router acting as DSPU Concentrator  PU5
& PU2

Is this anywhere near close?

Does an ethernet client running a TN3270 session also appear as an SLU
or LU?

Sorry if this is basic but SNA is the area that I am definately weakest
and while I can configure up basic DLSW+ services I prefer to understand
the underlying principles.

Darren


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RE: Isolation

[Dale Cantrell]

Hey guys, don't give up the dream just yet. I've been at this I.T. stuff
8 months and it's been rough, too! But with enough persistance, going to 
any/all Cisco seminars, attending user group meetings, I have landed on a 
gold mine,,for me. I've started a few days a week with a used router, 
switch, IBM equipment, reseller, named Duane Whitlow and Co.
Conrad Viceroy was good enough to take my Hounding with a bit of salt
and let me in. Enough of a plug, but this was Exactly what I needed. Loading 
images from TFTP, password recovery, generally checking all equipment before 
shipment, gives lots of hands on. I've died and gone to heaven. :>)) My CCNA 
date keeps getting pushed back, but I wasn't in any hurry in the first 
place. Some of us have harder heads for subnetting to sink into! :>)
Thanks for posting guys.
Dale Cantrell

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To: "'Michael Linehan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Cisco Groupstudy. com 
Mailing list (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Isolation
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:10:34 -0400

You are not alone.  I'm in the same spot as you are.  I have virtually zero
hands on with Cisco equipt.  My current position is slowly squeezing my
enthusiasm.  In a couple of months, I'm am gone from here and hopefully I'll
find something that will allow me to work with Cisco equipment (nice to have
other types thrown in as well) even though I may have to start at the lower
end.  I've already started on the CCNP track and I find it damn difficult to
get through the study material without hands on.  I'm hoping to get a couple
of routers on my own because I think classes are just too expensive.  Good
luck on your journey.


Vijay Ramcharan, MCSE, CCNA


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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 4:16 PM
To: CiscoStudyGroup
Subject: Isolation


Although this group is great for collabarating...I feel the need for
some human interaction. My current job environment entails me as the
only network proffessional on staff. Is any member of the list a current
member of the NPA? If so, what do they think? Is this worth the $175.00
per year? Are there any other options in the Twin Cites (Minnesota)
area??

Also I have a philosophical question. Would it be better to find a
position that peripherally allows some Cisco WAN experience before
embarking on CCNP/CCIE? I have my CCNA. Or  should one just go for it
anyway?

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RE: setting mtu size on a 2611

[Chuck Larrieu]

One reason might be a move to voice over IP. While I am not really up to
speed on this yet, I recently attended Cisco sponsored AVVID training, and
this was a point that was made. On the internal network, having a smaller
MTU helps greatly on the voice over side. Voice packets suffer less delay
when data packets are smaller rather than larger. Voice packs don't have to
wait around for large data packets to go through. Less delay = better voice
quality.

I asked specifically about the issues on the data side, and the instructor
did point out that ATM, with a packet size of 53 bytes, was highly efficient
and did not cause data services to denigrate.

I suppose there is the additional overhead of fragmenting and reassembling
large packets. And a major issue if the DF bit is set. One more reason never
to set the DF bit, I suppose.

Chuck

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Robert John Lake
Sent:   Monday, June 05, 2000 9:58 AM
To: Clark, Jason
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:Re: setting mtu size on a 2611

Hi,

Why do you want to change the MTU size You are going to walk into
serious issues if you do.

Robert



"Clark, Jason" wrote:
>
> Good Morning
>
> I am trying to manually set the MTU size on a 2611 and am receiving the
> following message % Interface Ethernet0/0 does not support user settable
> mtu."  Is it not possible to manually set the MTU size on Ethernet
> interfaces?
>
> TIA
>
> Jason
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Re: FRS 2.0 Beta a Hoax???

[Henrique Issamu Terada]

I had my FRS 2.0 Beta scheduled to 21/05/2000.
I just sent eariler my subscrition paper to a Sylvan Authorized Partner (in
Brazil) , and it scheduled for me.
As that girl told me, it was so hard to get it, but fortunatelly , it'done.
Not just me , but my three collegues also got it.

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified
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Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:19 PM
Subject: FRS 2.0 Beta a Hoax???


>
> I don't think that Cisco is really conducting a beta for this exam. I
think
> that they are going through the motions with Sylvan and just pretending to
> do a beta. Nobody I know was able to successfully schedule the exam. It
> wouldn't surprise me if those who claim they are scheduled for the beta
show
> up at the appointed time only to find that the exam is unavailable.
>
> The whole thing looks very suspicious to me. If there really is a beta
exam,
> I wanna see proof... [=`)
>
> >From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Sylvan Prometric and FRS 2.0 Beta Test
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:42:20 -0700
> >
> >The same thing happened to me also. I called right in at 5:00 AM (I am in
> >AZ). I got the message saying we are closed. I dialed right back and it
> >said
> >please hold for a rep , yada, yada, yada ). I thought I was one of the
> >first
> >people to get through. It was early and I fell asleep on hold. I woke up
at
> >9:00 AM and I was still on hold. I called back from another phone and the
> >recording said all of the test slots were full.
> >It sounds like we got routed into a loop.
> >
> >Oh well, I guess I will have to pay the full price.
> >
> >Rick
> >CCNA, MCSE ,CNA
> >
> >"Joe McCormack" wrote in message
> ><002001bfcd95$85c49f60$88ac30d0@awaphxhq>...
> > >What a company.  They put me on hold right after they started taking
> >calls.
> > >This was 7am Central Time (5:00am where I live).  They kept me on hold
> >for
> > >over an hour.  I hung up and called back only to be told that the FRS
2.0
> > >beta test slots were all gone.  When I got to the office one of my
> >coworkers
> > >told me that he called at 5:30am our time and got registered in a
couple
> >of
> > >minutes.
> > >
> > >I called and asked for a supervisor so I could complain.  The person I
> >got
> > >did not act like a supervisor and made it very clear that she really
did
> >not
> > >care if I stayed on hold for a week (thanks Shelly).
> > >
> > >Missing the beta exam is not really a big deal but wasting over an hour
> >of
> > >my time at 5:00am is a big deal to me.  Unless I am mistaken they are
the
> > >only game in town for scheduling certification tests.  It would be
great
> >if
> > >Cisco would provide an alternative company for test scheduling.
> > >
> > >If Sylvan Prometric puts you on hold do not wait very long!
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Re: VLSM Question

[Sriram Venkataramani]

Hello,
Your answer is'nt convincing to me. Please do not take it otherwise. Can you
explain your answer?

Thanks
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Subject: VLSM Question


> It should be:
> area 23 range 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.240
>
> --
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 23:49:40 -0700
> From: Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: VLSM Question
>
> I have four different interfaces on a 2514 router (e0,e1,s0,s1), each
> interface is on a different subnet, and the mask is 30 bits. Here's they
> are:
> int e0 = 172.16.10.4 /30
> int e1 = 172.16.10.8 /30
> int s0 = 172.16.10.12 /30
> int s1 = 172.16.10.16 /30
> ( I only want two addresses per subnet)
> I'm running OSPF routing protocol on this router. Each route is
> configured in a different area, so that makes this router an Area Border
> Router.
> here's the logic:
> router ospf 23
> route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.0 area 1
> route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.0 area 2
> route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.0 area 3
> route 172.16.10.16 0.0.0.0 area 4
> I want to summarize the addresses into one route for the routing table.
> Is this possible?
> Here's the binaries on the last octet:
> 4 = .0100
> 8 = .1000
> 12= .1100
> 16= .0001
> I came up with summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224
> (ABR script = --
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 23:49:40 -0700
> From: Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: VLSM Question
>
> I have four different interfaces on a 2514 router (e0,e1,s0,s1), each
> interface is on a different subnet, and the mask is 30 bits. Here's they
> are:
> int e0 = 172.16.10.4 /30
> int e1 = 172.16.10.8 /30
> int s0 = 172.16.10.12 /30
> int s1 = 172.16.10.16 /30
> ( I only want two addresses per subnet)
> I'm running OSPF routing protocol on this router. Each route is
> configured in a different area, so that makes this router an Area Border
> Router.
> here's the logic:
> router ospf 23
> route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.0 area 1
> route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.0 area 2
> route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.0 area 3
> route 172.16.10.16 0.0.0.0 area 4
> I want to summarize the addresses into one route for the routing table.
> Is this possible?
> Here's the binaries on the last octet:
> 4 = .0100
> 8 = .1000
> 12= .1100
> 16= .0001
> I came up with summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224
> (ABR script = area 23 range 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224)
> Is this correct?)
> Is this correct?
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Filtering NetBEUI & IPX on Bridged interfaces

[Terry L. Hartman]

I have been looking for a way to filter out NetBEUI & IPX from propogating
across bridged interfaces.

Scenario:

8 - ISL VLANs & 10 - Remote (T1) sites with routed IP and Bridged LAT
traffic. Bridging is enabled for the LAT traffic, however, there are a few
IPX servers which traffic does not need to be seen on any other nets. The
customer also doesn't beleive in removing the extraneous protocols that new
machines ship with (NETBEUI & IPX/SPX) - they say too many machines to
re-configure.

I have attached a protocol analyzer to all VLANs and there is rogue traffic
/ protocols propogating on the LANs.

I want to be able to filter IPX and NetBEUI from leaving the interfaces /
LANs they originate from (bridged) while permitting LAT / DEC traffic. I
figured the best way was with an Access-List 2xx or trying to tunnel,
however, I am having trouble finding the appropriate type codes.

thanx,


#1 Rule of Networks:
It Has To Work!!!

Terry L. Hartman - MCP, CCNP
Systems Engineer
Enstar Networking Corporation

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Re: Cisco's uOne ???!!!!!

[Robert John Lake]

Hi,

I agree, but if its a quick query then I may be able to answer it for
you.

Robert

Tim O'Brien wrote:
> 
> If I were you I would place a call to TAC. They will help you get this up
> and running and will have much more expertise than someone on the list who
> may have implemented it once before (no offence intended to anyone that has
> done this). That is what TAC is for. 800-553-2447
> 
> Tim
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:15 AM
> Subject: Cisco's uOne ???!
> 
> > Hi Friends,
> >
> > I am in no doubt on the expertise and knowledge of this group. Fortunately
> > or Unfortunately(I Dont know), I have not got a single answer on my last 2
> > questions. Today, I am on an edge, I need to implement Unified
> > messaging(uOne and AS5300). And all of you are requested to freely!! send
> > your experience and skills. I need,
> >
> > VoIP/FaxoIP/AS5300/uOne and  much more.
> >
> > Hope to get replies.
> >
> > Thanks ,
> >
> > Kaushik
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Re: Firewall!!!!

[Apoorva S.Malavia]

I work with both all the time. I prefer the PIX's too. But, there are
rumours that the PIX's can be hosed down easily. I have yet to see some
evidence on it. Also, the VPN feature is still new to the PIX environment.
But, cisco will catch on pretty fast.

-Apoorva

Achal Kataria wrote:

> Hey People,
>
> Just wanted to know one thing , which one is better PIX or
> Checkpoint Firewall 1 and why??
>
> Thanx in adv
> Achal
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RE: Isolation

[Vijay Ramcharan]

You are not alone.  I'm in the same spot as you are.  I have virtually zero
hands on with Cisco equipt.  My current position is slowly squeezing my
enthusiasm.  In a couple of months, I'm am gone from here and hopefully I'll
find something that will allow me to work with Cisco equipment (nice to have
other types thrown in as well) even though I may have to start at the lower
end.  I've already started on the CCNP track and I find it damn difficult to
get through the study material without hands on.  I'm hoping to get a couple
of routers on my own because I think classes are just too expensive.  Good
luck on your journey.


Vijay Ramcharan, MCSE, CCNA


-Original Message-
From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 4:16 PM
To: CiscoStudyGroup
Subject: Isolation


Although this group is great for collabarating...I feel the need for
some human interaction. My current job environment entails me as the
only network proffessional on staff. Is any member of the list a current
member of the NPA? If so, what do they think? Is this worth the $175.00
per year? Are there any other options in the Twin Cites (Minnesota)
area??

Also I have a philosophical question. Would it be better to find a
position that peripherally allows some Cisco WAN experience before
embarking on CCNP/CCIE? I have my CCNA. Or  should one just go for it
anyway?

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SNA device types

[jennifer . margrison]

Darren,
   you are mostly right, but a bit mixed up.

In SNA there are PU types and LU types.

The PU type describes the function/capabilities of the device within the SNA
hierarchy:
PU types:
5VTAM (SSCP)
4FEP
3 there is no PU type 3
23274/3174 cluster controller, 3777 RJE station, other devices (typically
connected to a FEP by a leased line running SDLC 1974-1980s) . Token ring SNA
gateway (1990s). SNA gateway on a LAN with a CISC router running DLSw to another
Cisco router on a token ring (1990s-). Any SNA gateway product running on a
server will be a PU type 2.
1I've forgotten what that was.


then when peer to peer networking came into SNA:
2.1  APPN (advanced program to program networking) supports independant LUs.
Includes more recent 3174 etc cluster controllers.


The type of the LU describes what data stream it uses to communicate. ie the
format of the data sent from one LU to another.

LU types
new-fangled ones:
6.1 application to application  CICS  - not used much
6.2 application to application (APPC)
classic ones:
3  printer attached to a 3174 cluster controller using 3270 data stream
2  3270 display terminal (3278, 3179 etc) your basic "green screen", or
emulation of one on a PC
1  SNA character set  - printer or RJE station
0  content of data stream not specified (this was used for program to program
communication before APPC/APPN  came in eg Solve:Netmaster INMC, an Aussie
product)

SLU :
in classical SNA a session is between two LUs. One of the LUs is the Primary
(PLU), the other the Secondary (SLU). The primary LU is the application on the
mainframe, such as CICS, TSO etc. The secondary LU is the user's terminal.

Hope this isn't too overwhelming and it helps. Feel free to ask more questions!

Jenny

---
Question for all:

In the SNA hierarchy there are defined types 5,4,2 and 1 nodes.

>From what I've read so far I've assembled the following:

Type 5IBM Mainframe (Runs VTAM) SSCP
& PU5
Type 43705/3725/3745/3746 FEP/Communications ControllersPU4
Type 23174 Cluster Controller   PU2
Type 2Token Ring SNA GatewayPU2
Type 1Token Ring Device LU
Type 1TN3270 Terminals  SLU

Type 5 & 2Cisco Router acting as DSPU Concentrator  PU5
& PU2

Is this anywhere near close?

Does an ethernet client running a TN3270 session also appear as an SLU
or LU?

Sorry if this is basic but SNA is the area that I am definately weakest
and while I can configure up basic DLSW+ services I prefer to understand
the underlying principles.

Darren


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RE: setting mtu size on a 2611

[Clark, Jason]

Yeah, I know it's not a good idea to change the MTU.  The reason I am doing
this is for testing purposes for a customer.  I am trying to test out PMTU
discovery.  Basically I want to change the MTU to 1450 on the router and
then enable PMTUD on a Solaris box and configure Solaris with the default
MTU of 1500 and have the two devices negotiate the MTU to 1450.

Thanks

Jason

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> 
> Why do you want to change the MTU size You are going to walk into
> serious issues if you do.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> "Clark, Jason" wrote:
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> > Good Morning
> > 
> > I am trying to manually set the MTU size on a 2611 and am 
> receiving the
> > following message % Interface Ethernet0/0 does not support 
> user settable
> > mtu."  Is it not possible to manually set the MTU size on Ethernet
> > interfaces?
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RE: Dialer Pool & Dialer Rotary

[Feliz, Edgar]

Dialer maps are considered legacy DDR, Like frame-relay map statements,
while dialer pools are the new kids on the block. Why Cisco's IOS does not
permit both kinds of statements to be used on one BRI interface is a
question for the developers I think.

You should just be able to configure legacy DDR, with multiple map
statements on the BRI interface. Or make both dialer interfaces part of the
same dial pool. So both will have "Dial pool 1" lets say. Because even if
you have different dialer interfaces they can be part of the same dialer
pool. 

Hope this helps.

EF

-Original Message-
From: Choh Koon Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dialer Pool & Dialer Rotary


Hi all,

As far as I knew is the Dialer pool, pool-member command allowed us to 
assigned a number of dialer profiles to a physical interface. 
Dialer rotary-group is only aassign One Dialer profile to one interface
only.

I had int Dialer0 which is configure to dial to remote office and Dialer1 is
configure to dial into the ISP. I had only one physical ISDN interface and I
would like to assign both dialer profile to the BRI interface. Dialer pool
can do the job, but not dialer rotary-group.

While I configure it I realise that I can't assign dialer pool IF , i had
the dialer map map in used.( Dialer0 is configure using Dialer Map & Dialer
1 is without Dilaer Map )

Can anyone here tell me why dialer pool is not applicable if dialer map is
active ??? How can I share single physical BRI interface when i had one
dialer profile with dialer map, and another dialer profile is without dialer
map ???

Thanks.

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Re: OT: licensing software

[NHK]

Microsoft SamLite 1.0 edition might suit your need, just that they only
inventory your desktop software.
Can't provide you a reference at the moment, but if you really want it I'll
upload the files.

Best wishes,
Ryan






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Please respond to "Dave Santeramo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject:  OT: licensing software




Need a software package that will inventory all the software and hardware
on my NT based network.  Any suggestions?




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Re: BSCN objectives

[Benjamin Walling]

There is a BSCN course here in Tampa in July.  If there is space, I'll sit in
and see what it is.

Ben







"Ryan LaTorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/05/2000 09:49:23 PM





  
  
  
 To:  Benjamin Walling/HQ/INDECON@Indecon, "Groupstudy"   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
  
 cc:  
  
  
  
 Subject: Re: BSCN objectives 
  









Those objectives at the Global Knowledge web site are straight from the ACRC
course. Although I have not taken the Routing 2.0 exam, I recall the
consensus on Groupstudy was that the test did not resemble the current ACRC
very much at all.

Long story short, I wouldn't trust that outline until Global Knowledge is
ready to start teaching the BSCN - October, last I heard!


- Original Message -
From: "Benjamin Walling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: bscn objectives


>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/cust/classes/C-TRN-BSCN.html
>
> Lists a brief overview of the subject matter.
>
> http://db.globalknowledge.com/catalog/outline.asp?course=515a&cat=6
>
> Lists an outline of the BSCN course as offered by Global Knowledge.
>
> That should give a basic overview of what to know.  I would prefer to have
some
> solid objectives before burning $100.  If anyone takes the test, can you
please
> lend your thoughts to the accuracy of these two pages.
>
> Ben





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Re: BSCN objectives

[Ryan LaTorre]

Those objectives at the Global Knowledge web site are straight from the ACRC
course. Although I have not taken the Routing 2.0 exam, I recall the
consensus on Groupstudy was that the test did not resemble the current ACRC
very much at all.

Long story short, I wouldn't trust that outline until Global Knowledge is
ready to start teaching the BSCN - October, last I heard!


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: bscn objectives


>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/cust/classes/C-TRN-BSCN.html
>
> Lists a brief overview of the subject matter.
>
> http://db.globalknowledge.com/catalog/outline.asp?course=515a&cat=6
>
> Lists an outline of the BSCN course as offered by Global Knowledge.
>
> That should give a basic overview of what to know.  I would prefer to have
some
> solid objectives before burning $100.  If anyone takes the test, can you
please
> lend your thoughts to the accuracy of these two pages.
>
> Ben


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firewall configuration question XXXX

[Sim, CT (Chee Tong)]

Dear friends,  I am just a junior,  I have a few question after seeing our
company firewall configuration...  Pls see below,
 
1) What is meaning  of   "ip inspect name fw tcp"
2) What is meaning of   "ip nat outside"  and "ip nat inside"   What is the
difference?
3) What is meaning of"ip inspect fw in"
4) What is meaning of"ip nat pool rabobank 192.168.3.101 192.168.3.200
netmask 255.255.255.0"

 
 
Chee Tong
 
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname RBFW2514
!
enable password X
!
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
!
ip inspect name fw tcp
ip inspect name fw udp
ip inspect name fw smtp
ip inspect name fw ftp
!
!
process-max-time 200
!
interface Ethernet0
 description Interface facing Financial Service Provider
 ip address X .X.X.X 255.255.255.0
 ip access-group 100 in
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip nat outside
!
interface Ethernet1
 description Interface facing Rabobank (Trusted) network
 ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.254.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip nat inside
 ip inspect fw in
!
interface Serial0
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 shutdown
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
ip nat pool rabobank 192.168.3.101 192.168.3.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
ip nat pool rabobank1 192.168.3.201 192.168.3.240 netmask 255.255.255.0
ip nat pool rabobank2 192.168.3.101 192.168.3.240 netmask 255.255.255.0
ip nat inside source list 1 pool rabobank2
ip nat inside source list 2 pool rabobank1
ip classless
ip route 172.16.0.0 255.255.0.0 192.168.3.31
ip route 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 10.168.3.2
ip route 199.105.176.0 255.255.248.0 192.168.3.21
ip route 199.105.184.0 255.255.254.0 192.168.3.21
ip route 205.183.246.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.3.21
ip route 208.134.161.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.3.21
no ip http server
!
access-list 1 permit any
access-list 100 permit tcp any any eq www
access-list 100 permit tcp any eq www any
access-list 100 permit tcp any any eq 5100
access-list 100 permit tcp any eq 5100 any
access-list 100 permit tcp any any eq 60101
access-list 100 permit tcp any eq 60101 any
access-list 100 permit tcp any any eq 7091

access-list 100 permit tcp any any eq 4040
access-list 100 permit tcp any any eq 6080
access-list 100 permit tcp any any range 8194 8294
access-list 100 permit udp any any range 48129 48192
access-list 100 permit udp any eq 6080 any
access-list 100 permit udp any eq 4040 any
snmp-server engineID local 000902107B8102E6
snmp-server community public RO
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 
 login
 length 0
!
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[Tiang Ping Onn Gordon]

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RE: Cisco's uOne ???!!!!!

[Chuck Larrieu]

Start with www.cisco.com. on the lower right you will find links to the
Cisco AVVID architecture.  You have a lot of reading to do.

In general, this is not something that you want to just wake up one day and
decide to install. You may want to get ahold of your Cisco sales person, or
a good third party consulting company, and start the educational process.

UOne boxes, if I understand correctly, are the component of an IP telephony
infrastructure that provide services such as voice mail.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
kaushik khakhar
Sent:   Monday, June 05, 2000 7:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Cisco's uOne ???!

Hi Friends,

I am in no doubt on the expertise and knowledge of this group. Fortunately
or Unfortunately(I Dont know), I have not got a single answer on my last 2
questions. Today, I am on an edge, I need to implement Unified
messaging(uOne and AS5300). And all of you are requested to freely!! send
your experience and skills. I need,

VoIP/FaxoIP/AS5300/uOne and  much more.

Hope to get replies.

Thanks ,

Kaushik

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RE: Cisco Certified Salaries

[Dave W.]

Well said.  I love it.

A CCIE in any third world country could earn less than a KFC staff in big 
cities.  A medical doctor earns <$US20,000 in countries like Vietnam.  No 
surprise.

All in all, it's about supply & demand plus fortune involved.

Dave.

>From: Duncan Maccubbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Duncan Maccubbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:43:41 -0400
>
>  I hate to get involved in this but I have seen some responses that were
>not well thought out. I worked with a guy who had much experience here in
>the DC/Metro area with routing and switching in a large government agency.
>He moved out to the Denver area and the best offer he could get was $29k
>with HP. He returned to the DC/Metro area to get $100k+. "I agree anyone
>making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live"
>is not accurate at all. The market you live in will determine what you get
>paid. Some areas have a small IT market with many people around with certs
>and experience that will dictate lower pay. You make $60k in some areas and
>you are rich. Go to NY city and you will be living in the streets. $27k
>maybe good money in you area. All I can say is to look around and see if
>you can make more.
>
>Duncan


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RE: mls rp in 6509

[Bartlett, DS1]

The first line creates an virtual interface called VLAN1

The second line allows multilayered switching to occur for all accounts on
VLAN 1.  This follows the Route one switch many theory of operations on a
network.

Good luck and have fun networking.

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> 
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> Could anyone tell me what this does.
> 
> int vlan 1
> mls rp ip
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Passed support 2.0

[Jim Rampley]

 
I passed support 2.0 last week for my last test for CCNP.  I got an 
873 with 692 being the passing score.  Everyone complained so much about 
the old CIT test being so poorly worded, I took the new version.  I thought 
it was a very well worded test with little ambiguity.  
 
I have several years of troubleshooting experience which came in real 
handy.  As a matter of fact, without a bunch of experience or LOTs of lab 
time I don't believe this test will easily be passed.  I read the Cisco 
Press CIT book, Priscilla's CIT flash cards, and Boson CIT test #2.  (There 
are 3, so I just picked one).
 
Headn' on to CCDP.  
  
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acronym)

RE: new version of 802.1q?

[tgaston]

Hello,

I have done some research on this recently. We had an issue with the
Catalyst 4006, which currently does not support ISL trunking. What I found
is that Cisco has implemented PVST+ (Per VLAN Spanning Tree) extention
technologies within their newer switch platforms that allow 802.1q trunks to
do Spanning Tree per VLAN. This ofcourse is not a standard, this someting
Cisco has done within their products. I beleive the standards bodies are
working to allow the standard 802.1q to do STP per VLAN in the future. 

In further discussions with the engineers at Cisco, they stated that
implementing 802.1q trunking today does not pose any issues.

Regards,

Thad Gaston



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Sent: 6/5/00 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: new version of 802.1q?

I believe 802.1s is the standards group working on Spanning Forest (per
vlan stp)

"Andy Harding" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote in message
01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...
have been having (semi) argument at work about dot1q versus ISL
 
my understanding is that dot 1q runs one instance of spanning tree per
trunk, rather than per vlan as ISL does - hence if one VLAN is blocking
then dot1q disables the entire trunk
 
A collegue of mine reckons that dot 1q now does as per ISL and runs STP
on a per-vlan basis, but the 802.1q spec has changed without the #
changing
 
someone help me out here...
 
thanks
 
Andy
 
 


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RFC1700 and other useful information - port numbers and more

[Chuck Larrieu]

Got to wondering about RFC 1700, being as it is dated sometime in 1994. So I
inquired of the IETF, and was informed that port numbers and other
assignments are now being updated and made publicly available by IANA

www.iana.org

so, check it out: http://www.iana.org/numbers.htm#P  your gateway to the up
to date listing of assigned TCP and UDP port numbers, IP protocol numbers,
and more.

Maybe a bit less friendly than the old RFC, but lots of good stuff there.

In any case,  RFC1700 is ok, but going forward, IANA is the source of the
latest and greatest.


Chuck

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Re: Frame Relay on back-to-back routers (without FR switches)

[K Sacca]

Remember, frame relay is an Interface Specification
only.  Frame Relay specifies how a user device such
as a router delivers info to a WAN for transmission.

So he could set encapsulation frame-relay on each
router, but what good that would do I don't know.

You can test F/R back to back as a PVC but I would
do it right and set one up with frame-relay switching

Ken

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> Without a switch, in what way is it Frame Relay?
> 
> 
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> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Frame Relay on back-to-back routers
> (without FR switches)
> >Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:59:37 -0400
> >
> >I want to know if we can run Frame Relay between
> two
> >routers back to back without FR switches ?
> >
> >yes you can
> >
> >you probably would want a frame relay switch to
> practice hub and spoke
> >and other nice things ;but you can run frame realy
> over a back to back
> >connection
> >
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RE: CCNA and subnetting questions

[Cate, Constance]

1) Read the question, they will tell you what they want you to know; they
just don't say it very clearly sometimes. Just like the real world where you
have to go plowing through the s&*^ to get to the info you need.
2) If they don't say differently in the question that you read very
carefully,  then the assumption is that you cannot use the "zero
subnets."
 
When you are preparing for a test remember that you are expected to
understand the default behavior of the IOS version you are being tested on.
If the question does not specify a different configuration from the default,
then assume the default. Sometimes the information is implied by some
configuration detail and not directly stated, so. think through all the
implications of the information you are given.

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Subject: CCNA and subnetting questions


Hello everybody,
 
Well, I'm taking a stab at the CCNA this Monday.  I'm wondering if, for the
purposes of the exam, that when you get subnetting questions whether you're
supposed to assume that subnet-zero has been enabled or not.  I just
recently completed my MCSE, and with all the Microsoft tests the zero
subnets cannot be used.  But I've seen it both ways in studying for the
CCNA.  Thanks in advance.
 
~Seth~

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RE: firewall features

[Ryan Moffett]

Justin,

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/secur
_c/scprt3/index.htm

Take a look at the Context Based Access Control and the various other
firewall features.

Ryan Moffett

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Justin Marcus
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 8:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: firewall features


hello ppls :)

if i have an ios with that special firewall thing in it..
how do i actualy use it.. i was using that cisco search function on there
website to find info but like it always does for me it gave back unrelated
topics :(..

like is there special commands built into the access-list commands ?
or is it a special command all together. ?
anyways could someone fill me in please :)

thanks heaps :)

Justin...

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Re: firewall features

[Tim O'Brien]

I am not sure what version of IOS you are running or what platform but I
found these on the 12.0 IOS. Hope they help

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/secur
_c/scprt3/scfirewl.htm

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/secur
_c/scprt3/index.htm

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/secur
_c/index.htm

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/secur
_r/index.htm

Watch the word wrap

Tim


- Original Message -
From: "Justin Marcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 8:13 PM
Subject: firewall features


hello ppls :)

if i have an ios with that special firewall thing in it..
how do i actualy use it.. i was using that cisco search function on there
website to find info but like it always does for me it gave back unrelated
topics :(..

like is there special commands built into the access-list commands ?
or is it a special command all together. ?
anyways could someone fill me in please :)

thanks heaps :)

Justin...

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OT- looking for Jarrett Hines

[Chuck Larrieu]

Sorry to do this guys. Jarrett - your e-mail is being bounced. I've got the
router set up. You on line?

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Re: VLAN problems with Catalyst 3548G

[Ariel]

 From what I recall only 1 VLAN interface can be up at one time.  Think of 
the VLAN interfaces like the sc0 interface on a Cat5000 in that you can 
assign the VLAN and IP address of the switch itself for telnet/SNMP or 
other remote access to the switch.  The difference being you don't have to 
reconfigure the VLAN interfaces when you want to change them, just shut one 
down and no shut the one you want to work.
If you shutdown the VLAN 1 interface then do a no shut on the VLAN100 
interface it should come up, make sure you have console access or telnet 
access to the IP address you assigned to the VLAN 100 interface or the 
switch may become unreachable..

Also note that even though the VLAN 100 interface is down that VLAN 100 
would still exist and work for any ports that belong to that VLAN..

This is the same behavior as the Cat2900XL switches..

I hope this is what you were looking for...

Greg Myran
CCIE#5906


At 03:15 PM 6/5/2000 , Lance Hubbard wrote:

>Got a new toy to play with...a Cat 3548G.  Problem is, that while creating 
>a new VLAN (in this case I chose "VLAN 100"), The VLAN interface seems to 
>have a love affair with the shutdown/Administratively down state.  Anyone 
>had similar hurdles to clear?  (besides the obvious "no shutdown", it is 
>ineffective)
>
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>
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firewall features

[Justin Marcus]

hello ppls :)

if i have an ios with that special firewall thing in it..
how do i actualy use it.. i was using that cisco search function on there
website to find info but like it always does for me it gave back unrelated
topics :(..

like is there special commands built into the access-list commands ?
or is it a special command all together. ?
anyways could someone fill me in please :)

thanks heaps :)

Justin...

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Re: Cisco Certified Salaries

[John Neiberger]

I don't know where you live, but in Denver you'd most likely be making
20k/year more than that with those qualifications.  Of course, as usual,
this depends on experience and who you decide to work for, but generally IT
salaries are pretty high here.

>  I only make $45,000 a year and I am a CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, MCT
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:00 PM
>  Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries
>  
>  
>  > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of
>  > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side)
>  > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently
>  > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems
low
>  to
>  > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making.
>  >
>  > Best Regards,
>  > Chad,  MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
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Async PPP dial-i on AUX

[peter whittle]

Hi all,

I am interested in configuring the AUX port with external modem to
handle ppp dial in on either a 2500 or a 4000.

Does any one know of a reference where I can find out more about using
the aux port as
another port rather than as a terminal port? The location of a specimen
configuration would be appreciated.

Thanks

Peter

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Re: Async PPP dial-i on AUX

[Brad Ellis]

speciman configuration:

hostname Router1
!
username Router2 password imadork
!
interface Async1
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
 encapsulation ppp
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 dialer in-band
 dialer map ip 10.1.1.2 name Router2 broadcast 5551212
 dialer-group 1
 ppp authentication chap
 no cdp enable
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 async1
!

dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
line aux 0
 modem InOut
 transport input all
 rxspeed 38400
 txspeed 38400
 flowcontrol hardware


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>
> I am interested in configuring the AUX port with external modem to
> handle ppp dial in on either a 2500 or a 4000.
>
> Does any one know of a reference where I can find out more about using
> the aux port as
> another port rather than as a terminal port? The location of a specimen
> configuration would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
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Re: Off Topic but of note - CCNP Certificates are out

[George Zhang]

Chuck,

When did you pass your last CCNP exam?  What else came with the package?
I just passed my last CCNP test --- CIT 4.0 today and look forward to receiving
the CCNP certification package.  Please let me know how is that CID training
course after you use it.  Thanks.

George Zhang

Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> Got mine today. And in the package was a nice little treat. Details
> concerning how to get  access to a free on line CID training course. Just in
> the nick of time. I start class next week.  :->
>
> Chuck
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Re: Router/Firewall

[Brad Ellis]

hi!  you can use a 1750...make sure it has enough DRAM&FLASH to support the
firewall feature set.  also make sure you purchase the firewall feature set!

I can set that up for them at a reasonable cost if they are interested.

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
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> Hello All,
>
> I have a client who wants to split his T1 between voice and data. 12 lines
> of data and 12 lines of voice. The split will be done by an Adtran
DSU/CSU.
> They want to then use a Cisco router for the Internet connection, however
> they need to have firewall capabilities. They were told by someone to use
> the Cisco 1750. Does anyone know about this router, does it have firewall
> capabilities, are they good enough or should they get another firewall
> besides the router. Also is this a good router for their purposes (70 user
> network).
>
> Have a wonderful Day!
>
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Re: Off Topic but of note - CCNP Certificates are out

[sliu]

George, congrats on your new CCNP, great job!
I got certified back on April 7, and still haven't received my CCNP
package.
So, I went on to the galton website to check it out, only to find out that
the package
was mail just on June 1.
Would that free CID training CD be included in it? I am looking forward to
it

- Sean
CCNP, and others



   
   
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Chuck,

When did you pass your last CCNP exam?  What else came with the package?
I just passed my last CCNP test --- CIT 4.0 today and look forward to
receiving
the CCNP certification package.  Please let me know how is that CID
training
course after you use it.  Thanks.

George Zhang

Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> Got mine today. And in the package was a nice little treat. Details
> concerning how to get  access to a free on line CID training course. Just
in
> the nick of time. I start class next week.  :->
>
> Chuck
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Re: Where In Sydney?

[Justin Marcus]

hey :)
www.routercom.com sells them for $60AUS along with routers and other
cables, they seem to be very reliable and there in sydney :)

Justin...

On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Swart, Douwe wrote:

> Does anyone know where in Sydney I can buy 
> 
> Router-to-Router Cable DB60-DB60 to connect two router serial ports 
> 
> I know I can buy it from OS, but if anyone knows of a place in Sydney,
> please let me know.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Douwe 
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Re: Cisco question...

[Brad Ellis]

same with Premier.

-brad
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> I don't know the level, but we're Silver Partner , and there's the same
> "Gentleman agreement" , in order to avoid Cisco get people from its
> partners.
> I think this is the same for Gold partners, not sure about Premier ...
>
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>
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: OT: Cisco question...
>
>
> > I just had a quick question to pose to the group and I apologize for it
> > being OT.  My question is this:  What level of agreement do you have to
> have
> > with Cisco for them not to be able to talk to employees about working
for
> > Cisco?  We are a named account and I was contacted by Cisco last week
> about
> > a job in my area, but when I told them who I worked for they said "sorry
> we
> > can't talk to you" and that was that.  I know why they have this
> agreement,
> > but I'm just curious at what level (Silver, Gold, etc) this comes into
> > effect, or is it on a case by case basis?  Thanks in advance for any and
> all
> > responses!
> >
> > Eric L. McMasters, CCNP/CCDA
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Re: why my question cannot be forwarded to everyone anymore

[Brad Ellis]

cheech,

yes, you can do that, but you need a special cable you can only buy from me
for $500.

joke...NO!  You can't do that!  You need the same encapsulation types at
both ends.

-Brad
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> other people's question and answer?
>
> I have a question, If i use two different encapsulation and two end of the
> routers  Router A use HDLC and Router B use SDLC.  Can it work
>
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>
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Off Topic but of note - CCNP Certificates are out

[Chuck Larrieu]

Got mine today. And in the package was a nice little treat. Details
concerning how to get  access to a free on line CID training course. Just in
the nick of time. I start class next week.  :->

Chuck

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mls rp in 6509

[Dennis Ighomereho]

Hi,
Could anyone tell me what this does.

int vlan 1
mls rp ip

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Re: CCIE info

[Thomas Lisa]

Hear, Hear

At my present rate I'll be 60+ when I get my CCIE (assuming of course that I
actually get it)!

Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy



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> I of course am far more interested in the oldest to attain the prize on the
> day of his/her  lab. Us old dogs still need a bone or two once in a while
> :->
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Yes, I had already seen that.
> His name is Brandon Ta , and is the only one in the world who has 3 CCIE's.
>
> Does anyone know who is the youngest , and his age ?
>
> thanks
>
> Henrique Issamu Terada
> CPM Comunicações - Brazil
> CCNA Certified
>
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> Subject: CCIE info
>
> > Check out the link from Packet magazine. Be sure to scroll down, about 3/4
> > way down you can read
> > about a guy that has 3(!) CCIE certs.
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/connect.html
> >
> > Nat
> > CCNA, MCSE, CNA
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Re: Where In Sydney?

[Brad Ellis]

but it from Bob, the cable man!

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-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
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>
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> please let me know.
>
> Thanks
>
> Douwe
>
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Re: Router/Firewall

[Tim O'Brien]

You will need the firewall IOS feature set for the 1750. You will probably
also want to bump up the memory on the 1750. The IOS firewall feature set is
very nice and should be able to do everything that you will need.

Tim

try Cisco part # CD17-CH-12.0.5= (require a minimum of 4MB flash and 16MB
DRAM memory)

- Original Message -
From: "Amsel, Moshe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:40 PM
Subject: Router/Firewall


Hello All,

I have a client who wants to split his T1 between voice and data. 12 lines
of data and 12 lines of voice. The split will be done by an Adtran DSU/CSU.
They want to then use a Cisco router for the Internet connection, however
they need to have firewall capabilities. They were told by someone to use
the Cisco 1750. Does anyone know about this router, does it have firewall
capabilities, are they good enough or should they get another firewall
besides the router. Also is this a good router for their purposes (70 user
network).

Have a wonderful Day!

Moshe Amsel
Customer Support Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cognet Corp.
465 Columbus Avenue
Valhalla, NY 10595
Phone:  (914) 747-0770
Fax:  (914) 747-3930

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Re: Cisco question...

[Henrique Issamu Terada]

I don't know the level, but we're Silver Partner , and there's the same
"Gentleman agreement" , in order to avoid Cisco get people from its
partners.
I think this is the same for Gold partners, not sure about Premier ...

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified

- Original Message -
From: McMasters, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:17 PM
Subject: OT: Cisco question...


> I just had a quick question to pose to the group and I apologize for it
> being OT.  My question is this:  What level of agreement do you have to
have
> with Cisco for them not to be able to talk to employees about working for
> Cisco?  We are a named account and I was contacted by Cisco last week
about
> a job in my area, but when I told them who I worked for they said "sorry
we
> can't talk to you" and that was that.  I know why they have this
agreement,
> but I'm just curious at what level (Silver, Gold, etc) this comes into
> effect, or is it on a case by case basis?  Thanks in advance for any and
all
> responses!
>
> Eric L. McMasters, CCNP/CCDA
> OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer
>
> Phone:913.859.1986
> PCS:913.485.9734
> Fax: 913.859.1234
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Router/Firewall

[Amsel, Moshe]

Hello All,

I have a client who wants to split his T1 between voice and data. 12 lines
of data and 12 lines of voice. The split will be done by an Adtran DSU/CSU.
They want to then use a Cisco router for the Internet connection, however
they need to have firewall capabilities. They were told by someone to use
the Cisco 1750. Does anyone know about this router, does it have firewall
capabilities, are they good enough or should they get another firewall
besides the router. Also is this a good router for their purposes (70 user
network).

Have a wonderful Day!

Moshe Amsel
Customer Support Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cognet Corp.
465 Columbus Avenue
Valhalla, NY 10595
Phone:  (914) 747-0770
Fax:  (914) 747-3930

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RE: OSI Game

[Kane, Christopher A.]

http://www.decodes.com/solitaire/solitaire.html 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Newell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:56 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: OSI Game


Someone within the last month put a link to a site to an OSI game that was
great for learning the model.  I would greatly appreciate the link again.  I
have since misplaced it.

Thanks

Robb

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RE: Off Topic but of note - CCNP Certificates are out

[Jim Healis]

Hey, no fair! =(
I took my CID test before my CCNP pack has arrived.
Fortunately I passed it... so I don't need the training. What a waste. =)


Jim Healis, CCNP, CCDP
Senior Network Engineer
wine.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck
Larrieu
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:24 PM
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Subject: Off Topic but of note - CCNP Certificates are out

Got mine today. And in the package was a nice little treat. Details
concerning how to get  access to a free on line CID training course. Just in
the nick of time. I start class next week.  :->

Chuck

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Re: VLAN Trunk traffic question

[Kenny Sallee]

Actually, in a production network with many vlans, I think there will be
more traffic on the trunks.  If one port is a trunk and it has 5 vlans
configured, a broadcast from all vlans will traverse the trunk - so if all
vlan's broadcast at the same time, instead of 1 broadcast - as most ports
will see - the trunk will see 5.

As far as traffic passing the trunk where it is not destined for a user on
that trunk...Only broadcasts, multicasts, and unicasts destined for a real
user will traverse the trunk.  So a unicast to a user off swich C will not
be seen by switch B.  On switch A, if you do a "sh cam dynamic" you will see
MAC address mappings to the trunk port interface of users off switch C.

If you start talking about multiple VLANs then you can look at VTP prunning.
If setup properly, it will only send traffic on a trunk if there is a
particluar VLAN configured on a switch off that trunk.  In your scenario,
say you have 3 VLANs.  VLAN 1 is configured on all 3 switches.  VLAN 2 is
only on switch C and A.  VLAN 3 is only on Switch B and A.  Switches B and C
are trunking to switch A.  Switch A has user ports in all 3 VLANs.  A
broadcast from a port on switch A in VLAN 2 will not traverse the trunk to
switch B, because there are no user ports in that VLAN anyway.  Makes sense
huh?


Kenny

- Original Message -
From: "Gerwin Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Shaq Patel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: VLAN Trunk traffic question


> I don't think so. A trunk type is just a tag type and has nothing to do
with
> the traffic inside it. When you configure VLAN's, you split up your
network
> into broadcast domains. So I think that you will have less traffic on a
> trunk than you have without the trunks. Beware that when you (in the
router)
> bridge between the VLAN's, the amount of traffic will be increased because
a
> broadcast on VLAN 1 will also appear in VLAN 2.so this broadcast will
be
> twice inside the trunk.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Gerwin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Shaq Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VLAN Trunk traffic question
>
>
> ISL and done deal-
>
> John Neiberger wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'm suffering from a brain cloud at the moment.  So, willing to
suffer
> > the comic flames and arrows, I ask the following question:
> >
> > Assume we have three switches: A, B, and C.  A has a fast ethernet
> > connection to B and another to C.  B and C are not directly connected.
At
> > this point, these are not trunk lines and they are in the same VLAN.
That
> > means only traffic destined for B goes down the line to B, and traffic
> > destined for C goes to C.
> >
> > Now, if I were to make both of those connections trunk lines, either ISL
> or
> > 802.1q, would I still have only B-destined traffic going to B or would
> that
> > trunk be passing all traffic for that entire VLAN up to B even though
> > C-destined traffic is a waste of bandwidth on the B trunk?
> >
> > Thanks for the help, as always!
> >
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RE: CCIE info

[Chuck Larrieu]

I of course am far more interested in the oldest to attain the prize on the
day of his/her  lab. Us old dogs still need a bone or two once in a while
:->

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Henrique Issamu Terada
Sent:   Sunday, June 04, 2000 7:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: CCIE info

Yes, I had already seen that.
His name is Brandon Ta , and is the only one in the world who has 3 CCIE's.

Does anyone know who is the youngest , and his age ?

thanks

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:58 AM
Subject: CCIE info


> Check out the link from Packet magazine. Be sure to scroll down, about 3/4
> way down you can read
> about a guy that has 3(!) CCIE certs.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/connect.html
>
> Nat
> CCNA, MCSE, CNA
>
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Where In Sydney?

[Swart, Douwe]

Does anyone know where in Sydney I can buy 

Router-to-Router Cable DB60-DB60 to connect two router serial ports 

I know I can buy it from OS, but if anyone knows of a place in Sydney,
please let me know.

Thanks

Douwe 

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RE: BCMSN hardware question

[Bartlett, DS1]

I went to the course and here is what we had.

At the core we ran 2x Catalyst 5509 with RSM
Distribution we had 4x Catalyst 5005
Access Layer we had 8x Catalyst 1912

All in all a very good class.

Good Luck
Daryn P. Bartlett

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Kalman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 1:05 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  BCMSN hardware question
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I'm interested in taking BCMSN. Before plunking down $2500US, I was
> wondering if anyone could answer a few questions about the course?
> 
> What hardware is present? The sales rep at one training company said that
> all students have 1900s and 5500s. Another said that the course has those
> switches. (Quite a difference!) Another sales rep listed four model number
> series (1900, 2600, 5500 and 2500). I assume that a router would be
> helpful,
> but both 2500 and 2600? Still another sales person said that there would
> be
> internal routers (RSM, I presume) and ISLs (inter switch links, probably)
> and Supervisors (Sup III, I'd hope) but the salesperson had no idea what
> those acronyms meant.
> 
> Has anyone gone to this course (better yet, taught it)? Can you advise on
> the hands on component?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
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RE: Passed CCNA 1.0!

[Ward, Shane]

Not now ACRC you will need BSCN

-Original Message-
From: Seth Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Passed CCNA 1.0!


hey guys and gals,

Well, passed my CCNA this morning.  Showed up at the testing center and
my
internet registration hadn't gone through, and I was all pumped for the
exam, so I had to do some running around to get re-registered, but
that's
another story.  The exam itself I found surprisingly easy, compared with
the
depth with which I studied a lot of the material.  I think I was making
the
test out to be worse than it was.  I had 78 questions, and they were a
pretty good spread.  I had almost no questions on routing protocols.
The
test was probably strongest on OSI layers, bridging and switching, with
subnetting ranking up there too.  But no one area was extremely
difficult.
Anyway, I'm fairly new to this study group and haven't posted much, but
I
definitely appreciate the help and encouragement I've gotten.  Guess I'm
on
to the ACRC exam.

Speaking of which, can anyone suggest some good reading/study material
for
that exam?

Thanks again, looking forward to all the exams to follow.

~Seth~

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Passed CCNA 1.0!

[Seth Wilson]

hey guys and gals,

Well, passed my CCNA this morning.  Showed up at the testing center and my
internet registration hadn't gone through, and I was all pumped for the
exam, so I had to do some running around to get re-registered, but that's
another story.  The exam itself I found surprisingly easy, compared with the
depth with which I studied a lot of the material.  I think I was making the
test out to be worse than it was.  I had 78 questions, and they were a
pretty good spread.  I had almost no questions on routing protocols.  The
test was probably strongest on OSI layers, bridging and switching, with
subnetting ranking up there too.  But no one area was extremely difficult.
Anyway, I'm fairly new to this study group and haven't posted much, but I
definitely appreciate the help and encouragement I've gotten.  Guess I'm on
to the ACRC exam.

Speaking of which, can anyone suggest some good reading/study material for
that exam?

Thanks again, looking forward to all the exams to follow.

~Seth~

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Re: 6506 Vlan and layer 3 switching question

[Michael Rasmussen]

You shouldn't have to do anything else to route 
between just those two VLANs.  Also just a side note.  The mls rp ip 
command is not necessary since you are using the MSFC.

  ""Josh Youngman"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote in message 002801bfcf35$c2e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:002801bfcf35$c2e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  i have a 6506 with a 48prt 10/100 blade i wish to 
  configure 6 ports on one subnet (vlan2) and the rest on another (Vlan1) and 
  use the supervisor to route between the two vlans.  does anyone have any 
  sample configs on how to do this.  so far i have
  created the two vlans and assigned the 
  ports.  i then did a session 15:
  !
  router rip
  network 10.0.0.0
  !
  Interface vlan1
      set ip address 10.0.8.21 
  255.255.252.0
  mls rp ip
  !
  interface vlan2
      set ip 
  add   10.0.12.21 255.255.252.0
      mls rp ip
  !
  !
   
  what else do i need here to route between the two 
  vlans?
   
  thanks for any help.   

OSI Game

[Robert Newell]

Someone within the last month put a link to a site to an OSI game that was
great for learning the model.  I would greatly appreciate the link again.  I
have since misplaced it.

Thanks

Robb

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6506 Vlan and layer 3 switching question

[Josh Youngman]

i have a 6506 with a 48prt 10/100 blade i wish to 
configure 6 ports on one subnet (vlan2) and the rest on another (Vlan1) and use 
the supervisor to route between the two vlans.  does anyone have any sample 
configs on how to do this.  so far i have
created the two vlans and assigned the ports.  
i then did a session 15:
!
router rip
network 10.0.0.0
!
Interface vlan1
    set ip address 10.0.8.21 
255.255.252.0
mls rp ip
!
interface vlan2
    set ip 
add   10.0.12.21 255.255.252.0
    mls rp ip
!
!
 
what else do i need here to route between the two 
vlans?
 
thanks for any help.   

RE: whats up with the CCNP NYC study group

[Ryan Finnesey]

Did we find a place to meet yet ?



Ryan V. Finnesey
Network Administrator 
@tmosphere Interactive 
1375 Broadway, 11th floor 
New York, NY 10018 
212 827 2507 phone 
212 827 2525 fax 
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Subject: whats up with the CCNP NYC study group


AYO
who's down to get together and study for CCNP I am studying for BCRAN right 
now. CCNP 2.0 all daway.

I am in Union City NJ So some where in NJ could be logical as well

over and out

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Re: Cisco's uOne ???!!!!!

[Brad Ellis]

Send me some $$$ and I'll answer all your questions!!!

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
""kaushik khakhar"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hi Friends,
>
> I am in no doubt on the expertise and knowledge of this group. Fortunately
> or Unfortunately(I Dont know), I have not got a single answer on my last 2
> questions. Today, I am on an edge, I need to implement Unified
> messaging(uOne and AS5300). And all of you are requested to freely!! send
> your experience and skills. I need,
>
> VoIP/FaxoIP/AS5300/uOne and  much more.
>
> Hope to get replies.
>
> Thanks ,
>
> Kaushik
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Re: SWITCHING 2.0

[Michael Rasmussen]

The exam doesn't cover specifics about any of hardware.  You just need to
know what device you should use at what layer (Core, Distribution, or
Access) in a given situation.

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> hi !
> i am planning to give the switching exam next month.i have gone thru
> Cisco Lan switching book from cisco press.I dont know the structure of the
> exam ,whether it covers all cisco switches like 8500.please guide me in
> this.thank u .
>
> vs
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RE:

[Albert Ip]

You may need a CCO login.

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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:39 PM
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Subject: 




i got a doc not found message



Todd Plambeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/05/2000 02:17:56 PM

Please respond to Todd Plambeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject:  Free Security Book






 www.cisco.com/offer/securitysolution/D855

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Re: CCIE info

[Henrique Issamu Terada]

Yes, I had already seen that.
His name is Brandon Ta , and is the only one in the world who has 3 CCIE's.

Does anyone know who is the youngest , and his age ?

thanks

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified

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Subject: CCIE info


> Check out the link from Packet magazine. Be sure to scroll down, about 3/4
> way down you can read
> about a guy that has 3(!) CCIE certs.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/connect.html
>
> Nat
> CCNA, MCSE, CNA
>
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Isolation

[Michael Linehan]

Although this group is great for collabarating...I feel the need for
some human interaction. My current job environment entails me as the
only network proffessional on staff. Is any member of the list a current
member of the NPA? If so, what do they think? Is this worth the $175.00
per year? Are there any other options in the Twin Cites (Minnesota)
area??

Also I have a philosophical question. Would it be better to find a
position that peripherally allows some Cisco WAN experience before
embarking on CCNP/CCIE? I have my CCNA. Or  should one just go for it
anyway?


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Passed CIT and now a CCNP

[George Zhang]

I passed CIT 4.0 today with a score of 834.  It is my last test for
CCNP.  I finished in about 90 minutes and had about 15 minutes to
review.  The most difficult part of CIT, for me, is the ambiguity of the
questions.  Another thing is that you have to guess what Cisco wants you
to answer.  Without knowing how the score is calculated based on the
number of right/wrong answers, I had no idea if I passed or failed just
before I saw the "Congratulation".  Overall, my test was in line with
previous posts regarding CIT.

Here is my road to CCNP:

ACRC: 12/22/99
CMTD: 2/7/00
CLSC: 5/1/00
CIT: 6/5/

I would like to take this opportunity to thank every one in this group,
especially those who have answered my questions and or communicated with
me directly.  Knowing that many people are working towards CCNA, CCDA,
CCNP, CCDP, and CCIE has been a good motivation factor for me.  Thank
you all.

I don't know if I want to get CCDA and CCDP before I go for CCIE.
I like to hear your opinions about the value of CCDA and CCDP.  How much
can you learn by studying for CCDA and CCDP?  How are they recognized in
the networking community?  Your opinions are greatly appreciated.

George Zhang, CCNP

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Re: How to make redundancy using BGP?

[Kenny Sallee]

What about this:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/cisco/mkt/ios/nat/tech/emios_wp.htm

Multihoming with NATA good read.

Kenny


- Original Message -
From: "Andy Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Daniel Ji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: How to make redundancy using BGP?


> I work for a european ISP as a network engineer and get this kind of cr*p
> all the time
>
> If you are SERIOUS about redundancy the go get an AS# and some PI
(Provider
> Independant) space from ARIN, etc - multi-home with two ISPs, take a full
> routing table, advertise your own routes, AS#, etc.  ie take a transit
> agreement (as opposed to a peering agreement which is something else
> entirely)
>
> There is no way in the world that two providers are going to sync up
private
> AS #s - in fact they couldn't do it as it would mean they would both be
> advertising the same address space as a part of their native AS# which you
> know can't be done.
>
> I'm a little hazy about DNS/bind but if you must have two PA (Provider
> Aggregate) address spaces from two providers then I believe that you can
> equally weight the two entries to resolve out alternately, although this
is
> potentially a nightmare from the tracerouting/symetrical routing
standpoint
> as DNS may well reolve ut differently each time.  (not entirely sure about
> this one - quite happy to be shot down if someone can out me straight)
>
> HTH
>
> Andy
> - Original Message -
> From: Eric Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:09 AM
> Subject: Re: How to make redundancy using BGP?
>
>
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > There are two way to do it:
> >
> > 1. the two ISP to agree on assign you a private BGP no. (I remember it
> > should be 65xxx, could someone let me know) and run BGP.  Info. as
follow:
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/cisco/mkt/ios/nat/tech/emios_wp.htm
> >
> > 2. using route-map to map diff. next-hop address to diff. NAT pool.
This
> > should work fine except I have problem with the icmp message (can't ping
> > from inside to outside).
> >
> > Good luck, Eric
> >
> > "Daniel Ji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 8h4ebg$549$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8h4ebg$549$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The following problem has obsessed me a long time:
> > >
> > > Our company has two ISPs, thus we have two links to internet, and each
> one
> > > assign their own IP blocks to us. now we want to have redundancy so
when
> > one
> > > link is down, we can use another link for a mission-critical server to
> > > continue to run.
> > >
> > > my question is:
> > > 1)Do we have to have our  own Internic assigned AS number so we could
> run
> > > BGP to "advertise" to the Internet that we have more than one route to
> the
> > > Internet?
> > >
> > > 2)Can we use an IP address assigned from our ISPs or Do we have to
have
> > our
> > > own IP in order to meet the requirement?
> > >
> > > Any help greatly appretiated!
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Daniel
> > > CCNA
> > >
> > >
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Re: Frame Relay on back-to-back routers (without FR switches)

[Dale Holmes]

Without a switch, in what way is it Frame Relay?


>From: quezada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: quezada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Frame Relay on back-to-back routers (without FR switches)
>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:59:37 -0400
>
>I want to know if we can run Frame Relay between two
>routers back to back without FR switches ?
>
>yes you can
>
>you probably would want a frame relay switch to practice hub and spoke
>and other nice things ;but you can run frame realy over a back to back
>connection
>
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Isolation

[Michael Linehan]

Although this group is great for collabarating...I feel the need for
some human interaction. My current job environment entails me as the
only network proffessional on staff. Is any member of the list a current
member of the NPA? If so, what do they think? Is this worth the $175.00
per year? Are there any other options in the Twin Cites (Minnesota)
area??

Also I have a philosophical question. Would it be better to find a
position that peripherally allows some Cisco WAN experience before
embarking on CCNP/CCIE? I have my CCNA. Or  should one just go for it
anyway?

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RE: whats up with the CCNP NYC study group

[Lugo, Ramon]

Hi Favio,
I am studying for ACRC, I don't mind to study together.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: whats up with the CCNP NYC study group


AYO
who's down to get together and study for CCNP I am studying for BCRAN right 
now. CCNP 2.0 all daway.

I am in Union City NJ So some where in NJ could be logical as well

over and out

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VLAN problems with Catalyst 3548G

[Lance Hubbard]

Got a new toy to play with...a Cat 3548G.  Problem is, that while creating a 
new VLAN (in this case I chose "VLAN 100"), The VLAN interface seems to have 
a love affair with the shutdown/Administratively down state.  Anyone had 
similar hurdles to clear?  (besides the obvious "no shutdown", it is 
ineffective)

Cheers,

Lance

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Re: VLANs and SC0!

[Kenny Sallee]

I've moved sc0 from vlan1 several times.  There should be no reason you
can't. Here's how our lab switch is setup now and working fine:

set interface sc0 15 192.168.168.251 255.255.255.0 192.168.168.255

 I would suspect an IP addressing/subnet mask or a configuration problem
here.  Also, since it's only one switch, why not set VTP to transparent?

Kenny

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From: "Gerwin Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jim Healis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cristina Hoselins"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: VLANs and SC0!


> I had the same problem, the only fine working condition is to leave the
sc0
> in VLAN 1 (as Cisco advises).
>
> Gerwin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Healis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 3:02 AM
> To: Cristina Hoselins
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VLANs and SC0!
>
>
> Just a couple questions that popped into mind:
> What is your addressing for the sc0 interface on the Cat5500?
> Are you trying to ping by IP address or name?
>
> Jim
>
> Cristina Hoselins wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > This is a stupid question:
> > I have recently run into some information that has caused me to doubt
> > the way a switch works.
> >
> > SITUATION:
> > R1(E0)--(2/6)Cat5500(2/7)--(e0)R2
> > A catalyst 5500 (no RSM) with 2 VLAN's configured: Vlan 1, Vlan 2,and 2
> > routers, both routers configured for VLAN 1 with 24 bit subnet mask, SC0
> is
> > part of VLAN1
> > by default
> > R1 pings R2 OK
> > R2 pings R1 OK
> > Cat5500 pings both routers OK
> > SO far so good...
> > Now I moved 2/6 and 2/7 to VLAN 2, set the vtp domain name XY and try to
> > ping
> > R1 pings R2 OK
> > R2 pings R1 OK
> > Cat5500 cannot ping the routers,neither the routers can ping the
Cat5500..
> > when you do a SH CDP NEIGH it sees both routers, SCO is still in
VLAN1...I
> > moved SC0 into VLAN 2, doesn't make a difference... DOes anybody know
why
> >
> > It's much appreciated.
> > Thank you
> > Cristina
> >
> > 
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Re: why my question cannot be forwarded to everyone anymore

[Dale Holmes]

No. It won't work.


>From: "Chee Tong Sim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: why my question cannot be forwarded to everyone anymore
>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 17:48:00 GMT
>
>Dear friends,
>
>Can I ask you why the question that I write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not
>forwarded to other people even I can get it myself.  but i still can read
>other people's question and answer?
>
>I have a question, If i use two different encapsulation and two end of the
>routers  Router A use HDLC and Router B use SDLC.  Can it work
>
>Thank you in advance
>
>Chee Tong
>
>
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Re: Cisco's uOne ???!!!!!

[Kenny Sallee]

Maybe you should post a specific problem.  This list is not a free
consultancy mechanism.  Most of us are consultants who spend most of our
time billing for the info you are requesting.  If you want to pay I will
gladly spend time helping youIf you post a problem, I will help if I can
and if I have the free time.

Kenny

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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:15 AM
Subject: Cisco's uOne ???!


> Hi Friends,
>
> I am in no doubt on the expertise and knowledge of this group. Fortunately
> or Unfortunately(I Dont know), I have not got a single answer on my last 2
> questions. Today, I am on an edge, I need to implement Unified
> messaging(uOne and AS5300). And all of you are requested to freely!! send
> your experience and skills. I need,
>
> VoIP/FaxoIP/AS5300/uOne and  much more.
>
> Hope to get replies.
>
> Thanks ,
>
> Kaushik
> 
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cit or support 2.0?

[First Last]

Any idea how many questions on each and what is passing on each exam?
Thanks. Please reply to this e-mail address. Jacinta Badu.
Which is easier or harder? Any support 2.0 objectives?

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New Lammale CCNA Book

[Mike Miller]

When is the official release date for sale to the public of this book?


PLMK,

Mike


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Re: Cisco's uOne ???!!!!!

[Dale Holmes]

Umm... Do you have a specific question?


>From: "kaushik khakhar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Cisco's uOne ???!
>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 07:15:14 PDT
>
>Hi Friends,
>
>I am in no doubt on the expertise and knowledge of this group. Fortunately
>or Unfortunately(I Dont know), I have not got a single answer on my last 2
>questions. Today, I am on an edge, I need to implement Unified
>messaging(uOne and AS5300). And all of you are requested to freely!! send
>your experience and skills. I need,
>
>VoIP/FaxoIP/AS5300/uOne and  much more.
>
>Hope to get replies.
>
>Thanks ,
>
>Kaushik
>
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BCMSN hardware question

[Steve Kalman]

Hi Folks,

I'm interested in taking BCMSN. Before plunking down $2500US, I was
wondering if anyone could answer a few questions about the course?

What hardware is present? The sales rep at one training company said that
all students have 1900s and 5500s. Another said that the course has those
switches. (Quite a difference!) Another sales rep listed four model number
series (1900, 2600, 5500 and 2500). I assume that a router would be helpful,
but both 2500 and 2600? Still another sales person said that there would be
internal routers (RSM, I presume) and ISLs (inter switch links, probably)
and Supervisors (Sup III, I'd hope) but the salesperson had no idea what
those acronyms meant.

Has anyone gone to this course (better yet, taught it)? Can you advise on
the hands on component?

Thanks,

Steve

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RE: Connecting 2 routers

[Quadri, Habeeb]

My appologies, dude.

Connection is between 2509 & 2513. Somebody is saying that these interfaces
can only go to a maximum of 64K, is it true?. What model of 2500 platform's
serial interface supports a full T1 speed.

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> 
> dude :
> 
> i don't think so . I have the same exact setup and i can go to it's
> maximun of 100.
> on the same equipmet 2503.
> 
> on the dce side
> clock ra 100
> 
> 
> 
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Re: new version of 802.1q?

[Andy Harding]

spot on - draft available at:
 
ftp://p8021:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/8021/s-drafts/d4/802-1s-d4.pdf
 
don't know about spanning forest 
tho...;-)
 
cheers
 
Andy

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  From: 
  Eric 
  Fairfield 
  Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:38 PM
  Subject: Re: new version of 802.1q?
  
  I believe 802.1s is the standards group working 
  on Spanning Forest (per vlan stp)
  
"Andy Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote in message 01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:01f801bfce8a$c41bace0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
have been having (semi) argument at work about 
dot1q versus ISL
 
my understanding is that dot 1q runs one 
instance of spanning tree per trunk, rather than per vlan as ISL does - 
hence if one VLAN is blocking then dot1q disables the entire 
trunk
 
A collegue of mine reckons that dot 1q now does 
as per ISL and runs STP on a per-vlan basis, but the 802.1q spec has changed 
without the # changing
 
someone help me out here...
 
thanks
 
Andy
 
 

whats up with the CCNP NYC study group

[Favio T]

AYO
who's down to get together and study for CCNP I am studying for BCRAN right 
now. CCNP 2.0 all daway.

I am in Union City NJ So some where in NJ could be logical as well

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Re: Frame Relay on back-to-back routers (without FR switches)

[quezada]

I want to know if we can run Frame Relay between two
routers back to back without FR switches ?
yes you can
you probably would want a frame relay switch to practice hub and spoke
and other nice things ;but you can run frame realy over a back to back
connection
 
 

Re: Frame Relay on back-to-back routers (without FR switches)

[John Hardman]

You need a FR switch in between them, most Cisco routers can be config'ed to
act as FR switches. Search the list, there are many posts on how to do this.

HTH
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John Hardman, MCSE+I, CCNA
ArrisTech/CCS-IS SysAdmin


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> Dear All,
> Is it possible to use a T1 as the physical layer, and
> configure frame relay over it (instead of something
> like HDLC) ?
> I want to know if we can run Frame Relay between two
> routers back to back without FR switches ?
> Or can and should one of the router be configured as a
> switch ?
> Thank you,
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