NEXT_HOP attribute for BGP and IP routing table entry?

2000-08-28 Thread Jacques Allison

Hi All,
Quick question about the NEXT_HOP attribute used in the BGP protocol...
If the UPDATE packet cross EBGP link, the NEXT_HOP will be the IP address of
source BGP speaker from AS.  This will not change with in the AS.  All BGP
tablesin AS will have the same NEXT_HOP IP - but what will be used in the IP
routing table.  BGP first check if route to NEXT_HOP is in the local IP
routing table.(sync enabled, ext..)
Then what?  Does it first look what the next hop ip address is in the IP
routing table and use this IP for the routing table entry, OR does it add
the IP routing table entry with the SAME NEXT_HOP attribute IP as all the
BGP speakers in the AS have?
Both make sense, but not sure which one will be used...  it has to do a
recursive lookup anyway!

Thanks for your feedback
Jacques Allison


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RE: ROUTING 2.0

2000-08-28 Thread 221BSB Kruczkowski, Raphael

Hi all,
I took the routing exam Monday and failed by 60 points.  What I did wrong is
study BGP and not worry about OSPF and EIGRP.

The exam outline is what you will see on the exam, if you feel comfortable
with the outline, you will do ok.

Raphael Kruczkowski
CCNA, CCDA, (BCRAN), MCSE
221BSB Systems Administrator
DSN: 337-6457,Civ: 0172-5850123
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What about stuff on Aggregate, Supernetting & CIDR?
I also have my exam soon, please let me know how it went, and if you
have any tips I would appreciate it

Cheers
Kerry

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cannot see route in bgp table?

2000-08-28 Thread Yee, Jason

Dear Sir,

Here is the configuration for our router.
The problem is that, we cannot see our Class-C Network
(202.77.96-202.77.127)
in BGP routing table:

KARG1>sh ip bgp 202.137.0.0
BGP routing table entry for 202.137.0.0/20, version 2
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
  Advertised to non peer-group peers:
  202.161.128.181
  Local
202.137.2.174 from 0.0.0.0 (202.137.2.134)
  Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, weight 32768, valid, sourced,
local,

best

KARG1>sh ip bgp 202.77.96.0
% Network not in table

These Class-C Network cannot go to outside world.

attatched is my router configuration <> 





!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname KARG1
!
enable secret 5 $1$9/RR$zMWmJ8mh0CfqJpvO.vkxZ1
!
username linknet password 7 070234405A00090A1B1319
!
!
!
!
clock timezone Jakarta 7
ip subnet-zero
no ip source-route
ip wccp web-cache
no ip finger
ip name-server 202.137.3.120
!
!
!
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 202.137.2.134 255.255.255.255
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 full-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet1/0
 description Cache Engine
 ip address 202.137.2.157 255.255.255.240
 no ip directed-broadcast
 full-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet2/0
 ip address 202.137.2.166 255.255.255.240
 no ip directed-broadcast
 full-duplex
!
interface Serial3/0
 description POP-SLIPI
 ip address 202.137.2.234 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial3/1
 description POP-MANGGA DUA
 ip address 202.137.2.230 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial3/2
 description POP-MATRAMAN
 ip address 202.137.2.214 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial3/3
 description CONNECTION TO IIX via INDOSAT
 ip address 198.32.204.30 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial3/4
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial3/5
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial3/6
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial3/7
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial4/0
 bandwidth 8192
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 fair-queue 64 256 0
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
interface Serial4/0.1 point-to-point
 bandwidth 8192
 ip address 202.161.128.182 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 frame-relay interface-dlci 387   
!
interface Serial4/1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial4/2
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial4/3
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
router ospf 100
 area 0 range 202.77.123.0 255.255.255.0
 area 0 range 202.77.124.0 255.255.252.0
 area 0 range 202.137.0.0 255.255.0.0
 redistribute connected
 network 202.77.123.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 202.77.124.0 0.0.3.255 area 0
 network 202.137.0.0 0.0.15.255 area 0
 network 202.161.128.180 0.0.0.3 area 1
 default-information originate
!
router bgp 9905
 no synchronization
 bgp dampening
 network 202.77.96.0 mask 255.255.224.0
 network 202.137.0.0 mask 255.255.240.0
 neighbor 198.32.204.29 remote-as 7597
 neighbor 198.32.204.29 version 4
 neighbor 198.32.204.29 soft-reconfiguration inbound
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 remote-as 11919
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 ebgp-multihop 5
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 version 4
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 soft-reconfiguration inbound
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 distribute-list 1 in
 no auto-summary
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.181 100
ip route 202.77.96.0 255.255.240.0 202.137.2.233
ip route 202.77.116.0 255.255.255.0 202.137.2.229
ip route 202.77.120.0 255.255.252.0 202.137.2.229
ip route 202.77.124.0 255.255.252.0 202.137.2.174
ip route 202.137.0.0 255.255.240.0 202.137.2.174
ip http server
!
logging trap debugging
access-list 1 permit any
access-list 10 permit 202.137.2.203
access-list 10 permit 202.137.2.204
access-list 180 deny   ip 172.16.0.0 0.15.255.255 255.240.0.0 0.15.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 192.0.2.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 128.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 191.255.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 192.0.0.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 224.0.0.0 31.255.255.255 224.0.0.0 31.255.255.255
access-list 180 permit ip any any
snmp-server engineID local 00090201C9F2B400
snmp-server community public RO
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line aux 0
 transport input all
line vty 0 4
 password 7 141A0707180D3A24282921
 login
!
end




Decnet routing with using HSRP

2000-08-28 Thread Dove

Hi,

My company is using Cisco 2501 and 2621 routers. We are using DECNET and
TCP/IP protocols. Before that, I know that when the router is enable DECNET
routing, it cannot implement HSRP. However, somebody told me that a new
verison IOS can do that. Is that true? If true, where can I find this
information?

Regards.
dovelet


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cannot see route in bgp table?

2000-08-28 Thread Yee, Jason

Dear Sir,

Here is the configuration for our router.
The problem is that, we cannot see our Class-C Network
(202.77.96-202.77.127)
in BGP routing table:

KARG1>sh ip bgp 202.137.0.0
BGP routing table entry for 202.137.0.0/20, version 2
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
  Advertised to non peer-group peers:
  202.161.128.181
  Local
202.137.2.174 from 0.0.0.0 (202.137.2.134)
  Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, weight 32768, valid, sourced,
local,

best

KARG1>sh ip bgp 202.77.96.0
% Network not in table

These Class-C Network cannot go to outside world.

attatched is my router configuration <> 





!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname KARG1
!
enable secret 5 $1$9/RR$zMWmJ8mh0CfqJpvO.vkxZ1
!
username linknet password 7 070234405A00090A1B1319
!
!
!
!
clock timezone Jakarta 7
ip subnet-zero
no ip source-route
ip wccp web-cache
no ip finger
ip name-server 202.137.3.120
!
!
!
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 202.137.2.134 255.255.255.255
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 full-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet1/0
 description Cache Engine
 ip address 202.137.2.157 255.255.255.240
 no ip directed-broadcast
 full-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet2/0
 ip address 202.137.2.166 255.255.255.240
 no ip directed-broadcast
 full-duplex
!
interface Serial3/0
 description POP-SLIPI
 ip address 202.137.2.234 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial3/1
 description POP-MANGGA DUA
 ip address 202.137.2.230 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial3/2
 description POP-MATRAMAN
 ip address 202.137.2.214 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial3/3
 description CONNECTION TO IIX via INDOSAT
 ip address 198.32.204.30 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial3/4
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial3/5
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial3/6
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial3/7
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial4/0
 bandwidth 8192
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 fair-queue 64 256 0
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
interface Serial4/0.1 point-to-point
 bandwidth 8192
 ip address 202.161.128.182 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 frame-relay interface-dlci 387   
!
interface Serial4/1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial4/2
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial4/3
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
router ospf 100
 area 0 range 202.77.123.0 255.255.255.0
 area 0 range 202.77.124.0 255.255.252.0
 area 0 range 202.137.0.0 255.255.0.0
 redistribute connected
 network 202.77.123.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 202.77.124.0 0.0.3.255 area 0
 network 202.137.0.0 0.0.15.255 area 0
 network 202.161.128.180 0.0.0.3 area 1
 default-information originate
!
router bgp 9905
 no synchronization
 bgp dampening
 network 202.77.96.0 mask 255.255.224.0
 network 202.137.0.0 mask 255.255.240.0
 neighbor 198.32.204.29 remote-as 7597
 neighbor 198.32.204.29 version 4
 neighbor 198.32.204.29 soft-reconfiguration inbound
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 remote-as 11919
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 ebgp-multihop 5
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 version 4
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 soft-reconfiguration inbound
 neighbor 202.161.128.181 distribute-list 1 in
 no auto-summary
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.181 100
ip route 202.77.96.0 255.255.240.0 202.137.2.233
ip route 202.77.116.0 255.255.255.0 202.137.2.229
ip route 202.77.120.0 255.255.252.0 202.137.2.229
ip route 202.77.124.0 255.255.252.0 202.137.2.174
ip route 202.137.0.0 255.255.240.0 202.137.2.174
ip http server
!
logging trap debugging
access-list 1 permit any
access-list 10 permit 202.137.2.203
access-list 10 permit 202.137.2.204
access-list 180 deny   ip 172.16.0.0 0.15.255.255 255.240.0.0 0.15.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 192.0.2.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 128.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 191.255.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 192.0.0.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 180 deny   ip 224.0.0.0 31.255.255.255 224.0.0.0 31.255.255.255
access-list 180 permit ip any any
snmp-server engineID local 00090201C9F2B400
snmp-server community public RO
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line aux 0
 transport input all
line vty 0 4
 password 7 141A0707180D3A24282921
 login
!
end




sync port and ISDN port IP addresses

2000-08-28 Thread Ravi Kumar

hi

i have cisco router with 2 sync ports and 1 isdn bri.

i want to configure isdn as backup link in case leased line fails.

in this scenario, whether serial interface and ISDN bri interface do have same
IP address or 2 different ip addresses

bye
ravee


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LS100, Fore ATM NIC, W2K, C5K

2000-08-28 Thread Adrian Chew

Anyone tried getting an ATM NIC on Windows 2000 to work with an Lightstream
100 and Catalyst 5000 LANE blade?  I suspect Microsoft's lack of backward
compatibility in their Windows 2000 ATM implementation is preventing this
setup from working.  I'm using a Marconi Forerunner LE 155 adapter.

>From what I can find, the LS100 only supports UNI 3.0 and the help files in
W2K says Microsoft's implementation is UNI 3.1.  I tried using both
auto-configured LECS address from the LS100 and using the well known LECS
address (5155 on Cat 5000 being the LECS, LES/BUS, 12.0(9) something code).

If anyone out there has any experience with ATM NICs and Windows 2000
talking to Cisco equipment, let us know your experiences.

Meantime - gotta yank the card out and get it into my other test machine
with NT4 (I know the Marconi drivers for NT4 has a UNI 3.0/3.1 selection
option).  Couldn't get my 3Com 3C339 Token Ring PCI card to work with W2K
either - no drivers.

P/S - It sure feels like Token Ring is dying - with the slowly dwindling
supply of decently supported NICs for it.

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Re: ROUTING 2.0

2000-08-28 Thread Kikpasa

What about stuff on Aggregate, Supernetting & CIDR?
I also have my exam soon, please let me know how it went, and if you
have any tips I would appreciate it

Cheers
Kerry

vevenkatasubramanian kandasamy wrote:
> 
> hi
> going to take routing 2.0 tomorrow.i have gone thru routing tcp/ip and
> internet routing architecture.is this enough.please give ur suggestion.
> 
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Re: Minimum BGP Address Aggregation

2000-08-28 Thread Jason


""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:v04220882b5d05ad06a2b@[63.216.127.98]...
> >What do you mean by "may NOT be globally routable" ? This would be due to
> >the address aggregation on the the 1st Tier ISP ?  Would this be a
problem
> >even if I'm connected to a 1st Tier ISP rather than a lower Tier ISP ?
>
> Depends on the policy of the particular ISP, even tier 1.  Some
> simply don't want to advertise any /24 that's not part of their
> address space, some won't do it except for direct customers who have
> negotiated to advertise provider-independent address space, some
> might not be willing to negotiate to advertise an a more-specific
> assignment of another provider's space, and some don't care.

So this is a policy issue where the ISP doesn't want to advertise the
address rather than that it cannot be done ? Is there a specific range of
address defined as "provider-independant address space" and if so, who do we
need to get hold of to get this addresses ?

> >  Could I multihome a network
> >across different countries or different geographical region ?
>
> You might -- which might or might not be a good idea. Depends what
> you are trying to accomplish.  When I've done this, there were some
> very carefully designed policies to protect transoceanic bandwidth.

In this scenerio, I want to allow users to access this network without being
affected by the congestions that occurs between international link.  I have
simulated the network links and policies in the lab to protect this
bandwidth but would like to draw further feedback to identify any other
potential problem. It is also one of the more interesting BGP exercises .

> >How could I ensure that the traffic takes the nearest route to the
network
> >and the data traffic from the network takes the nearest gateway out to
the
> >destination on the internet ? What is the potential problem with this ?
>
> Not sure what you mean by this.  In general, the default of most
> routing schemes is closest exit (hot potato) rather than best exit
> (cold potato).  Again, discussed in some detail in the new paper.

Iin this case, since the gateways are transoceanic, without redistributing
BGP into IGP, it would appear that it is difficult to select the best exit
using IGP.

Jason




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ROUTING 2.0

2000-08-28 Thread vevenkatasubramanian kandasamy

hi
going to take routing 2.0 tomorrow.i have gone thru routing tcp/ip and
internet routing architecture.is this enough.please give ur suggestion.

kind regards
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syslog

2000-08-28 Thread Swart Douwe

I have been through the cisco site to see what they recommend in the way of
syslog daemons to capture syslog information.

Does linux (Any variety) have the syslog daemon installed, or installable?

I have downloaded the Kiwi software syslog daemon - what do others prefer
for reliability and simplicity?

Thanks for your time

Douwe


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Re: Cisco CCIE Test Lab

2000-08-28 Thread Circusnuts

Can we say Big Ticket items !!!  How about the Light Stream & the ATM
inerface for the 4000 :-)

Phil

- Original Message -
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To: "'EEIEOL'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco CCIE Test Lab


> Catalyst 5000 with Fast Ethernet / token ring / LANE
> Cisco 2511 (as a terminal server)
> Various 2500's
> 2 x 3600's with voice modules
> 1 x 4000 router
>
>
> Sin a bhfuil ..
>
> Feargal
>
> > Feargal Ledwidge, CCNA CCDA CCNP
> > Wyle Electronics
> > Network Projects Manager
> > Direct: 949.453.3016
> > Fax: 949.788.4794
> > Pager: 800.776.9431
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: EEIEOL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco CCIE Test Lab
>
>
> A Chairde,
>Can I ask what equipment I would need to setup a CCIE test
> lab?
>
>Slan / Ed
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Re: CCNA Advise

2000-08-28 Thread Jon

OUCH!!!
How have you prepared for the test up to now?

I'd suggest you slip the proctor a C-note and see if they will let you take
in some notes, or use a lifeline. ;)  8 times...   That's allot of money!

Seriously,
Please read the CCNA book from Sybex.  Try to find someone local to you that
has a CCNA, or better yet CCNP, and ask them to have a little chat.  You
probably need a better understanding of the OSI Layers and subnetting.  OSI
becomes very easy once you get the main points.  Subnetting is all in the
table.  Do you know how to write out the Subnet table?

Good Luck

Jon


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CCNA Advise

2000-08-28 Thread Chuck Lanley

Can someone help me?  I have sat my CCNA exam 8 times and can't seem to
pass.  Is there some kind of study material I should be using?

Cheers


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Re: Cable Modem problems

2000-08-28 Thread Zippo

try using 12.1 ios with the ip address dhcp feature.  it works like a champ

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> I have a cable provider that has major problems all the time.  The
> problem is that they occasionally loose the network connectivity.  They
> always have us reinitialize the cable modem and get assigned an ip address
> and gateway address.  Everything works for about 2 minutes and then we
have
> to do it all again.  The tail fin 3com modem show proper lights.  However,
I
> can ping my own address but no longer the gateway everytime.  I then have
to
> reinitialize (restart) the cable modem and release/renew my dhcp address
to
> get it working again.  Anyone have a clue. why this is.
>
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Re: load balancing on Rip

2000-08-28 Thread William V. Wollman

CEF switching allows you to control the type of load sharing on a per
interface basis -- with the ip load-sharing command -- see below

To enable load balancing for Cisco Express Forwarding (CEF), use the ip
load-sharing interface configuration command. To
disable load balancing for CEF, use the no form of this command.

ip load-sharing [per-packet] [per-destination]
no ip cef [per-packet]

Syntax Description

 per-packet
  (Optional) Enables per-packet load balancing on the interface.
 per-destination
  (Optional) Enables per-destination load balancing on the
interface.



Default

Per-destination load balancing is enabled by default when you enable CEF.


Atif Awan wrote:

> you do not need any commands to setup load balancing. The router will
> automatically load balance between equal cost routes. However, by default
> the router will load balance upto four equal cost routes and if you need to
> load balance between paths that are greater in number than four then you
> need to configure the router to do so.
>
> You can confirm that the router is load balancing when you take a look at
> the routing table and you see multiple next hops for a particular
> destination. Or a more entertaining way might be to turn on debug ip packet
> for packets to that destination ( do not use this command unless you know
> what you are doing ) and then issue a ping to that destination. You should
> see the next hop changing for every echo request ( provided the router is
> configured for process switching )
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip
>
> >Could You show me the commands to load balance RIP please. I have never
> seen
> >how to do this
> >Duck
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:06 PM
> >Subject: RE: load balancing on Rip
> >
> >
> >>
> >> RIP does not support load balancing for unequal cost routes.
> >>
> >> For routes with the same hop count and pointing to the same
> >> destination RIP does load balancing by default and will load
> >> balance upto 4 equal cost routes by default.
> >> However, you can configure it to load balance between six equal
> >> cost routes.
> >>
> >> How the router will load balance depends on the switching process
> >configured
> >> on the router. For process switching the router will do per packet
> >> load balancing and for fast switching the router will perform load
> >balancing
> >> per destination.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >> Agnelo D'souza
> >> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:47 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: load balancing on Rip
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Can anyone tell me how to load balance on rip for
> >> equal and unequal costs.
> >>
> >> Agnelo
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Modem - Reverse Telnet

2000-08-28 Thread nycisco

After i reverse telnet into a USRobotic modem from router, how can i get out of it and 
back to the router console ?  Thanks very much for any help.


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Fatbrain Discount codes

2000-08-28 Thread Todd Plambeck

Does anyone know of any active Fatbrain discount codes?

Todd

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One Objective in Routing 2.0

2000-08-28 Thread yangluobin

Dear group,

By looking at the objectives of Routing 2.0, I found the following
topic:
Describe the use of the fields in a routing table.
Can anybody tell me about what is called the fields in a routing
table and how to use these fields?

Thanks in advance
Luobin



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Aironet 340 Series

2000-08-28 Thread Pete

Has anyone worked with these wireless products? If so what did your think?

Sincerely,
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Re: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Erick B.


Use the Hardware/software compat.matrix tool on CCO...
it'll tell what IOS you need min.

> > I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router
> that is new.  We got a 4
> > port ethernet module for it and a Network module
> that holds 2 WAN
> > interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the
> IOS sees it and everything
> > is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and
> nothing happens.  Thought
> > module was bad so got a replacement today. 
> Inserted the 2 WAN cards in
> the
> > new module and placed in router.  Still nothing,
> does not see the WAN
> cards.
> >   So then i placed the ethernet module in the same
> slot the WAN module was
> > in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So
> then I took the 2 WAN
> cards
> > out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's
> we have to make sure that
> > they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with
> this question. Is there
> > something that I must do to get the 3640 to
> recognize this Network Module
> > with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck
> did I just get 2 bad
> > Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new
> one.


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Re: 350-001 examin very tough

2000-08-28 Thread OHMSIR

How do you get the opportunity of these free training programs? Is this 
through your jobs or are the open to all? if so how?

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Passed CCNA

2000-08-28 Thread JL

OK, as much as I always previously loathed all the people who would post
regarding passing the CCxx test, I now find myself in the position to do so
(I think now that I was probably just jealous). I took and passed the CCNA
2.0 test today with a 903. My only complaint was that I had to answer
several questions after the test (NDA  & are you over 18..etc..)before I
could see my results. My thanks to all the list members who post here and
share their valuable time to help us all get thru these tests and on with
our careers. Anyway, time to take a night off from studying and then start
finishing off my mcse (2 tests left!), then maybe a little Linux or Win2k or
CCDA? Who knows...education is a life long process and when I quit learning
I'll be dead.

Thanks to Everyone for all your posts,

JL

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RE: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Jason Baker

Try updating to IOS version 12.1.1 :) but watch out there are bugs for this
IOS
check out caveats.

Regards
Jason 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 5:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please Help


To all,

I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4 
port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN 
interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything 
is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought 
module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in the 
new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN cards.

  So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was 
in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN cards

out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that 
they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there 
something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module 
with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad 
Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.


Thanks for your help

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Re: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread David Williams

You're OK on the network modules. You'll need ver 12.0 of IOS to support
2-port serial modules (either WIC-2T or WIC-2A/S). I had the same problem
with a 3620

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>
> I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4
> port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN
> interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything
> is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought
> module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in
the
> new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN
cards.
>   So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was
> in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN
cards
> out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that
> they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there
> something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module
> with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad
> Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.
>
>
> Thanks for your help
>
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RE: BGP Multi-Homing

2000-08-28 Thread Rob . Baird

John,
Level3 will route the /24 registered to another provider. We will
need written permission from the owner of the block authorizing us to source
the route from Level3. A number of Level3's peers will not accept a /24.
This will prevent us from announcing this route to those providers.

Let me know if you have any problems,
Rob Baird
Level 3 Communications



-Original Message-
From: John Deatherage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 1:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BGP Multi-Homing


Does anyone know where I can find good whitepapers or configuration examples
of BGP in multi-homed environments?  ARIN won't give out anything less than
a /21, but some providers won't advertise networks unless the IPs belong to
you.  Just another situation where politics are as much of a part of an
engineer's job as everything else.  Good thing we have VPs to slam providers
 Level 3 

I've checked the archives and read recent posts by Howard Berkowitz (looking
forward to the whitepaper on Sept. 1st).  Any other ideas???

This paragraph from Howard basically sums up what I'm discovering:

Depends on the policy of the particular ISP, even tier 1.  Some
simply don't want to advertise any /24 that's not part of their
address space, some won't do it except for direct customers who have
negotiated to advertise provider-independent address space, some
might not be willing to negotiate to advertise an a more-specific
assignment of another provider's space, and some don't care.

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Re: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Michael Fountain

What IOS are you running in the 3640?


>
>To all,
>
>I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4
>port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN
>interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything
>is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought
>module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in the
>new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN 
>cards.
>  So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was
>in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN 
>cards
>out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that
>they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there
>something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module
>with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad
>Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.
>
>
>Thanks for your help
>
>Steve
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Re: load balancing on Rip

2000-08-28 Thread Michael Fountain

The router is probably fast-switching.  Which means it is load balancing on 
a per-destination basis.

All of your traceroutes are for the same destination, so they are going the 
same route.

On the serial interface, if it is T1 or slower, do a "no ip route-cache"

That will turn off fast-switching, and make the router process switch the 
packets.  It is then supposed to load balance on a per-packet basis instead 
of a per-destination.


>
>The admin distance is 120, hop count is 2 for two entries to the same
>network yet when I do a traceroute it only traces through the first entry
>Duck
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>Cc: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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>Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:58 AM
>Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip
>
>
> > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
> >
> > > How come when I do a traceroute it only shows that one path is being
>used.
> > > Thanks
> > > Duck
> >
> > show us the route table output,then show us the traceroute.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Agnelo D'souza
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Could You show me the commands to load balance RIP please. I have
>never
> > > seen
> > > > > how to do this
> > > >
> > > > there are no special commands.  RIP will load balance accross equal
>cost
> > > > paths.  If you have two routes to the same destination and they have
>equal
> > > > hop count, then rip is going to do the balancing.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Duck
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: load balancing on Rip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RIP does not support load balancing for unequal cost routes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For routes with the same hop count and pointing to the same
> > > > > > destination RIP does load balancing by default and will load
> > > > > > balance upto 4 equal cost routes by default.
> > > > > > However, you can configure it to load balance between six equal
> > > > > > cost routes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How the router will load balance depends on the switching 
>process
> > > > > configured
> > > > > > on the router. For process switching the router will do per 
>packet
> > > > > > load balancing and for fast switching the router will perform 
>load
> > > > > balancing
> > > > > > per destination.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf Of
> > > > > > Agnelo D'souza
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:47 AM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: load balancing on Rip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Can anyone tell me how to load balance on rip for
> > > > > > equal and unequal costs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Agnelo
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Re: BGP Multi-Homing

2000-08-28 Thread Adrian Chew

Adding on to the question...

1) If a /24 is not acceptable, does the acceptable range start at /21 or /23
or?

Here is what I believe is doable - but you need your providers to co-operate
along:-

1) Get a /? from your provider, ensure they allow you to advertise a more
specific route for the portion of their address space assigned to you.  Then
re-advertise this to your other providers (from what Howard say, it can't be
a /24 so I'm wondering what's the minimum as per question above).  You will
need your own ASN.

2) Use a single provider, multi-homed BGP, and advertise the specific
networks with the no-export community.  Your provider will learn multiple
routes to you via BGP but will not re-advertise them.  Since you are using a
portion of your provider's address space, it is already being advertised as
a larger aggregate route so the rest of the Internet knows how to route to
you via your provider.  You can use private ASN space (get a private ASN
number from your provider) for this.

The 2nd option would alleviate the headaches of trying to get your own
addresses and ASN but limits you to one provider.

Any thoughts?

Regards,
Adrian

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examples
> of BGP in multi-homed environments?  ARIN won't give out anything less
than
> a /21, but some providers won't advertise networks unless the IPs belong
to
> you.  Just another situation where politics are as much of a part of an
> engineer's job as everything else.  Good thing we have VPs to slam
providers
>  Level 3 
>
> I've checked the archives and read recent posts by Howard Berkowitz
(looking
> forward to the whitepaper on Sept. 1st).  Any other ideas???
>
> This paragraph from Howard basically sums up what I'm discovering:
>
> Depends on the policy of the particular ISP, even tier 1.  Some
> simply don't want to advertise any /24 that's not part of their
> address space, some won't do it except for direct customers who have
> negotiated to advertise provider-independent address space, some
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Network Drawings

2000-08-28 Thread Avila, James


Does anyone know the drawing application used in Network Computing for the
featured networks?

thanks,


jim avila

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ILS + LANE trunks

2000-08-28 Thread Patrick Kirk

Edge switch w/out LANE capability (Cat4000).  Can I connect it to a 5500
(via ISL or dot1q trunking) that already has LANE trunking set up.  This
would allow the edge switch to participate in VTP and communicate w/ the
rest of the network w/out having to be a LANE client.  

I'm not sure a switch can have 2 trunks.  But can it have 2 trunks w/ 2
different trunking protocols???  One ISL trunk w/ one LANE trunk??

Anybody have this kind of setup?  Done this in the lab?  Seen literature
that says it can work?  I've looked all over Cisco's website and it shows
all kinds of diagrams w/ this exact scenario, but never says in the
documentation that a switch can have 2 functioning trunks???

Thanks in advance.


Patrick Kirk
Network Engineer
Vision Service Plan
http://www.vsp.com



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" Interface Async " command

2000-08-28 Thread NRS Hariharan

Hi all,
  I like to know when we will be using the " Interface Async " command and
how .. 



Thanks,


hari


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Re: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread John Deatherage

Is the port adapter a NM-2W= ?  This holds 2 WAN slots...  Check out
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/net_m
od2/ovrnetm.htm

According to this, you have to have IOS release 12.0(7)XK or higher for the
2-WAN card slots.  I'm willing to bet the IOS release is older, without even
knowing anything else about the problem.  Was I right?

John

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:38 PM
Subject: Please Help


> To all,
>
> I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4
> port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN
> interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything
> is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought
> module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in
the
> new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN
cards.
>   So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was
> in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN
cards
> out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that
> they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there
> something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module
> with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad
> Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.
>
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Steve
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Re: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Oz

Call TAC  as you may need a later ver of the IOS for the  router to see the
network cards
Oz
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Re: PIX configuration

2000-08-28 Thread Jay Hennigan

On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, SH Wesson wrote:

> My network is as follows:
> 
> 
> 
> Ethernet Segment ---|PIX||RTR|--OUT TO INTERNET
> INTERNAL   DMZ  EXTERNAL
> 
> I have a few servers out in the DMZ zone.  How and what is the standard for 
> security configuration for the PIX and the RTR (router).  Is the RTR suppose 
> to shield only the servers in the DMZ and allow all other access inside?  Is 
> the PIX suppose to be configured such that any traffic from the Ethernet 
> Segment on the INTERNAL network  going through the INTERNET is filtered and 
> allowed via the OUTBOUND list on the PIX.  How about the conduit?  How is 
> that suppose to be used.

A lot depends on your business model, what services the DMZ servers
are offering to the Internet, and what permissions you wish to allow 
the internal users.  Are you using NAT at the router?  At the PIX? 
Both?  How will this scale?  Any plans for a remote office?  Remote 
users need access to resources in DMZ?  Inside?  
 
> I have the network pretty much setup, but wanted some suggestions as to if 
> I'm doing it right.  I'm currently using the RTR to protect the servers in 
> the DMZ as well as placing some security for inbound connections while using 
> the PIX to establish/filter what traffic can go outbound and what can't.  
> How about traffic coming inbound from the INTERNET, should that type of 
> traffic be filtered on the RTR or by using the conduit on the PIX.  Any help 
> with how to setup security at what section of the network (where) would be 
> greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

As a first cut, I would place an access list on the router that allows
established connections DMZ -> outside and also allows inbound connections 
to those ports on those servers you have in the DMZ.  You'll also likely 
need to allow UDP port 53 for DNS.  Will one of the DMZ servers be a name
server?  If so, will it be authoritative for any zones, and need to do 
zone transfers to a secondary (TCP 53)?  With a deny any any log at the
end of the router access list you can see what holes you need to open if
things aren't working as planned.

The PIX will by default allow connections originated on the inside to
connect to the outside, so the configuration should be minimal there 
unless you're either denying certain types of traffic originated inside, 
or plan to allow static mappings and certain traffic originating from 
DMZ or internet to reach hosts on the inside network.  There's no reason
not to deny unwanted and/or malicious traffic both at the router and at 
the PIX.  More security.  If a host in the DMZ gets compromised, it's
nice to have another defense for the inside.

The biggest problems with this type of setup are customer related, not
configuration or hardware.  You design a secure network and then someone
demands the ability to use PCAnywhere to get to his inside workstation
or worse yet hangs a modem on it.  Insist on IPSEC/VPN for such idiocy
if at all possible.

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Re: BGP Multi-Homing

2000-08-28 Thread Russell Lusignan

Hey John, I feel your pain on that one :)

Check these links for the BGP stuff..  I found some pretty useful
information on it here..

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/18.html
Check the BGP4 Case Studies here, pretty useful

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Internetworking:BGP
Need CCP login, lots of BGP info and examples.

Hope that helps..
Russ..

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> Does anyone know where I can find good whitepapers or configuration
examples
> of BGP in multi-homed environments?  ARIN won't give out anything less
than
> a /21, but some providers won't advertise networks unless the IPs belong
to
> you.  Just another situation where politics are as much of a part of an
> engineer's job as everything else.  Good thing we have VPs to slam
providers
>  Level 3 
>
> I've checked the archives and read recent posts by Howard Berkowitz
(looking
> forward to the whitepaper on Sept. 1st).  Any other ideas???
>
> This paragraph from Howard basically sums up what I'm discovering:
>
> Depends on the policy of the particular ISP, even tier 1.  Some
> simply don't want to advertise any /24 that's not part of their
> address space, some won't do it except for direct customers who have
> negotiated to advertise provider-independent address space, some
> might not be willing to negotiate to advertise an a more-specific
> assignment of another provider's space, and some don't care.
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Re: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Dale Holmes

The IOS version on the 3640 needs to be upgraded so that it sees the card... 
simple thing to do really. Check on CCO to find out what release you need to 
support the card.

I remember my first time - man I pulled my hair out until somebody told me 
what the problem was...

Dale
[=`)


>From: "Steve Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Steve Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Please Help
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:38:01 CDT
>
>To all,
>
>I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4
>port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN
>interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything
>is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought
>module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in the
>new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN 
>cards.
>  So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was
>in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN 
>cards
>out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that
>they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there
>something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module
>with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad
>Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.
>
>
>Thanks for your help
>
>Steve
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Re: Mostly Relevant - One Way to Pass Time

2000-08-28 Thread Rishard Chapoteau

Actually IPv6 started back in 91 or 92 if I'm not mistaken.  They don't want
to do it unless they have to because it would cost so much to upgrade, but
as we move along with V4 we are burying ourselves in a bigger whole that
will cost us even more in the end.

Rishard


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> And something in those archives struck me as funny...
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/774/6.html
> is a second qtr of '96 talking 'bout IPv6.  So, 5 years later, makes
> you wonder {OK, makes me wonder} are we ever going to transition?
> {other than 6bone}
> *would love to hear about someone using this in production
>
> And on another note, was something I was not aware of...
>
> The IPJ
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/subscribe.html
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/faq.html
>
> Thanks for giving me something to do on a boring Sunday night. ;-)
>
> TroyC
>
>
> On 21 Aug 2000 01:21:04 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Chuck Larrieu")
> wrote:
>
> >Without feeling guilty for not studying
> >
> >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/
> >
> >and while away a Sunday evening exploring. There be treasure to be found
> >among the Packet Magazine archives and the historical documents from the
> >early 90's. Warning - a fast internet connection is recommended. Lots of
> >these are long PDF's.
> >
> >Chuck
> >--
> >I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life
as
> >it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you
will
> >study US!
> >( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG )
> >
> >http://www.cl.cncdsl.com/Locutus.html
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Re: Proxy-server over a WAN link

2000-08-28 Thread Scott Plumley

Proxy server's work off IP Address's.  So if you have a WAN tide together
with routers then all you would have to do is set up all the IP Networks in
the Local Address table.

Scott P. MCSE, MCDBA

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>   Are all proxy-server a LAN program or is their a proxy-server that can
be
> setup and work over WAN links?
>
>
> Brian
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RE: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Aaron K. Dixon

What is the product number of the module that you are trying to use?

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Steve Carson
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please Help


To all,

I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4
port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN
interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything
is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought
module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in the
new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN cards.
  So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was
in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN cards
out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that
they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there
something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module
with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad
Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.


Thanks for your help

Steve
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RE: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Aaron K. Dixon

Take a look on CCO to see what the IOS requirement is for the module you're
trying to use.  You may need a T train based on the modules you are using.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Steve Carson
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please Help


To all,

I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4
port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN
interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything
is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought
module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in the
new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN cards.
  So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was
in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN cards
out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that
they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there
something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module
with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad
Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.


Thanks for your help

Steve
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Re: Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread John Hardman

Hi

Check the release notes for the IOS version you are using, I'll bet that the
NM you are using is not supported in that version.

HTH
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> To all,
>
> I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4
> port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN
> interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything
> is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought
> module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in
the
> new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN
cards.
>   So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was
> in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN
cards
> out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that
> they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there
> something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module
> with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad
> Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.
>
>
> Thanks for your help
>
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BGP Multi-Homing

2000-08-28 Thread John Deatherage

Does anyone know where I can find good whitepapers or configuration examples
of BGP in multi-homed environments?  ARIN won't give out anything less than
a /21, but some providers won't advertise networks unless the IPs belong to
you.  Just another situation where politics are as much of a part of an
engineer's job as everything else.  Good thing we have VPs to slam providers
 Level 3 

I've checked the archives and read recent posts by Howard Berkowitz (looking
forward to the whitepaper on Sept. 1st).  Any other ideas???

This paragraph from Howard basically sums up what I'm discovering:

Depends on the policy of the particular ISP, even tier 1.  Some
simply don't want to advertise any /24 that's not part of their
address space, some won't do it except for direct customers who have
negotiated to advertise provider-independent address space, some
might not be willing to negotiate to advertise an a more-specific
assignment of another provider's space, and some don't care.

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Re: ATM Dead?

2000-08-28 Thread David Ristau

remember DSL runs over a ATM/Frame Relay variant.
DSL is HOT HOT HOT.


Billy Monroe wrote:
> 
> My friend is taking a 3 year Master program in ATM.
> Do you think that is worthwhile ?
> 
> "Kris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > ATM is hardly a dead technology at this stage in the game.  Though we're
> > not really seeing it to the desktop and LANE implementations aren't the
> > hottest thing, it's an incredible technology in the backbone.  Providers
> > love it because it allows us to run anything and everything over it (from
> > voice to IP, and everything in between) and maintain quality of
> > service.  One backbone carrying everything.  So ignore ATM at your own
> > risk, because it's going to be with us for quite some time.
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> >
> > From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: ATM Dead?  Was: 350-001 examin very tough
> >
> > But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be introducing new
> > implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over the WAN is still
> > fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near future, as a matter
> > of
> > fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all of our main
> > branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
> > connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >  Chuck,
> > >
> > >  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
> > >  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
> > >  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
> > >  mind I consider it dead technology.
> > >  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
> > >  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
> > >  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
> > >  something more interesting.
> > >
> > >  Regards, and good luck for the written.
> > >
> > >  Keep watching the skies ..
> > >
> > >
> > >  Phil.
> >
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Re: Passed BCMSN

2000-08-28 Thread Rah Sta

On the BCMSN exam are there any fill in command type question like on the 
ACRC exam ?



 Raheem


>From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Passed BCMSN
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:01:34 -0400
>
>Passed last friday with a score of 846/1000. Two down (ACRC/BCMSN), two to 
>go (BCRAN, CIT). Basically my impressions are the same
>that are reflected in the archives:
>
>Know Spanning tree, MLS, trunking, multicasting, VTP, vlans really well.
>
>Here's how I passed:
>1. Read "Cisco LAN Switching" by Kevin Hamilton & Kennedy Clark. Cisco 
>press.  This is a great book and I call it the "Switching
>bible".
>2. Read "BCMSN" by Thomas, Bass & Robinson. McGraw Hill. Good supplement, 
>but not the bible!!
>3. Took the 1 week training class at Mentor Technologies. Mentor (used to 
>be CCCI) always does a great job and the instructor, Pete
>Welcher, was superb. Really good labs. Thanks Mentor Tech!
>
>BCRAN is next. I'll check the archives for books, hints.
>
>Scott Strand
>SWIFT Network Analyst
>CCNA, MCP
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PIX configuration

2000-08-28 Thread SH Wesson

My network is as follows:



Ethernet Segment ---|PIX||RTR|--OUT TO INTERNET
INTERNAL   DMZ  EXTERNAL

I have a few servers out in the DMZ zone.  How and what is the standard for 
security configuration for the PIX and the RTR (router).  Is the RTR suppose 
to shield only the servers in the DMZ and allow all other access inside?  Is 
the PIX suppose to be configured such that any traffic from the Ethernet 
Segment on the INTERNAL network  going through the INTERNET is filtered and 
allowed via the OUTBOUND list on the PIX.  How about the conduit?  How is 
that suppose to be used.

I have the network pretty much setup, but wanted some suggestions as to if 
I'm doing it right.  I'm currently using the RTR to protect the servers in 
the DMZ as well as placing some security for inbound connections while using 
the PIX to establish/filter what traffic can go outbound and what can't.  
How about traffic coming inbound from the INTERNET, should that type of 
traffic be filtered on the RTR or by using the conduit on the PIX.  Any help 
with how to setup security at what section of the network (where) would be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks.



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Re: Passed BCMSN

2000-08-28 Thread STRAND Scott

Raheem,

There are a few. Not as many as ACRC.

--Scott

Rah Sta wrote:

> On the BCMSN exam are there any fill in command type question like on the
> ACRC exam ?
>
>  Raheem
>
> >From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Passed BCMSN
> >Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:01:34 -0400
> >
> >Passed last friday with a score of 846/1000. Two down (ACRC/BCMSN), two to
> >go (BCRAN, CIT). Basically my impressions are the same
> >that are reflected in the archives:
> >
> >Know Spanning tree, MLS, trunking, multicasting, VTP, vlans really well.
> >
> >Here's how I passed:
> >1. Read "Cisco LAN Switching" by Kevin Hamilton & Kennedy Clark. Cisco
> >press.  This is a great book and I call it the "Switching
> >bible".
> >2. Read "BCMSN" by Thomas, Bass & Robinson. McGraw Hill. Good supplement,
> >but not the bible!!
> >3. Took the 1 week training class at Mentor Technologies. Mentor (used to
> >be CCCI) always does a great job and the instructor, Pete
> >Welcher, was superb. Really good labs. Thanks Mentor Tech!
> >
> >BCRAN is next. I'll check the archives for books, hints.
> >
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Please Help

2000-08-28 Thread Steve Carson

To all,

I am in need of some help.  I have a 3640 router that is new.  We got a 4 
port ethernet module for it and a Network module that holds 2 WAN 
interfaces.  Put the ethernet module in and the IOS sees it and everything 
is fine.  Put the 2-port serial module in and nothing happens.  Thought 
module was bad so got a replacement today.  Inserted the 2 WAN cards in the 
new module and placed in router.  Still nothing, does not see the WAN cards. 
  So then i placed the ethernet module in the same slot the WAN module was 
in to make sure that slot works and it does.  So then I took the 2 WAN cards 
out of the module and put them in 2 spare 2600's we have to make sure that 
they work, and they do.  So this leaves me with this question. Is there 
something that I must do to get the 3640 to recognize this Network Module 
with the 2 WAN cards in it or by some strange luck did I just get 2 bad 
Network Modules and should try and order a 3rd new one.


Thanks for your help

Steve
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Re: inverse arp

2000-08-28 Thread Erick B.


'show frame map' for frame relay inverse arp. 

--- me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a command to discover ip addresses learn
> from inverse arp.


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FW: Video conferencing over IP question

2000-08-28 Thread Croyle, James


I am putting together a IP/VC solution for 1500 users at 2 sites right now.
How many users do you have at the sites, then you can estimate bandwitch
requirements.  From Cisco's webpage, you will need the 3660 (or others) to
run Multimedia Conference Manager, one at each site.  I hit our Cisco rep
today with some very detailed questions, and he had to check with his in
house experts...

Jim Croyle

-Original Message-
From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:20 PM
To: 'Jeff Walzer'; 'Cisco'
Subject: RE: Video conferencing over IP question


Good luck!
We looked into the same type of thing, but it seems right now the best
option
for video is ISDN :-)



-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:35 AM
To: 'Cisco'
Subject: Video conferencing over IP question


We are building a Frame Relay network from scratch. We have 2 main offices
and around 8 remote offices. For equipment the four main offices will have
3640s and the 4 remote offices will have 2620s. Two of the main offices will
100 + users while the other two will have 25 + users. The remaining remote
offices will have 5-10 users. We currently run 3 ISDN lines into each office
for video conferencing and the phone bills are quite expensive. 

We are looking into running video conferencing over the Frame network and my
question concerns what switch I should install in the offices. Right now I
am looking at the 3548 XL at two of the main offices with 2924 XL switches
for the rest of the offices. If video conferencing over IP becomes a reality
in 6 months I was thinking about adding a 5000 series switch at the main
site to have a core/distribution layer with the 3548 XLs serving as the
access layer. I am concerned about the 2924 XLs in the four remote offices.
Should I look into the 3524 XL series for the remote offices to be able to
handle the video conferencing traffic?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: Http redirection using access-lists?

2000-08-28 Thread Kent

See it is still a little bit confusing:

If the router has three interfaces:

one connects to the internal network, one to the cache
engine and one to the internet, where should I put the
'ip redirct" command?

Thanks

Kent

--- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Kent wrote:
> 
> > you mean the fastethernet connects to the internet
> or
> > the cache engine or both?
> > 
> 
> you can configure the wccp on the link exiting your
> border router
> 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Kent
> > --- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Kent wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Brain,
> > > > 
> > > > When you use WCCP where did you put the
> configure?
> > > I
> > > > mean which inferface, the one towards to
> clients,
> > > the
> > > > cache Engine or internet? 
> > > 
> > > you would put it on the interface which has all
> the
> > > traffic aggregated you
> > > wish to redirect.  Probably your fast ethernet
> > > interface.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I assume it should be the inferfaces connect
> to
> > > the
> > > > Cache Engine and internet, but not sure. Never
> > > played
> > > > with cache engine myself.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > Kent
> > > > --- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Khodaverdian, Hamlet
> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Has anyone used access-lists to redirect
> http
> > > > > traffic to a Cache Engine? Is
> > > > > > this even possible?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am aware that WCCP is capable of doing
> http
> > > > > redirection and have used it
> > > > > > before, but I was wondering if
> > > > > > there are other ways to do http
> redirection.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > thanks in advance,
> > > > > 
> > > > > yes, you can do this using policy routing,
> but I
> > > > > don't recommend
> > > > > it.  If you are going to do it, then at
> least
> > > use
> > > > > IOS 11.3, in which
> > > > > policy routing was fast switched.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the below:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 208.206.76.0/24   LAN ethernet
> > > > > 208.206.76.44 Address of the cache server
> > > > > !
> > > > > interface Ethernet0
> > > > >  description To Office Ethernet
> > > > >  ip address 208.206.76.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > >  no ip directed-broadcast
> > > > >  no ip mroute-cache
> > > > >  ip policy route-map proxy-redir
> > > > > !
> > > > > access-list 110 deny   tcp host
> 208.206.76.44
> > > any eq
> > > > > www
> > > > > access-list 110 permit tcp any any eq www
> > > > > route-map proxy-redir permit 10
> > > > >  match ip address 110
> > > > >  set ip next-hop 208.206.76.44
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This will allow the cache server itself to
> get
> > > out
> > > > > via port 80, but
> > > > > anything else gets sent to the cache server.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Realize that the layer 3 header is not
> > > re-written. 
> > > > > When the cache server
> > > > > receives the packet, it must be configured
> to
> > > accept
> > > > > packets to any
> > > > > destination.  Each OS has a way of
> accomplishing
> > > > > this, for example with
> > > > > linux you would use ipchains or ipfwadm.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Policy routing has no provision for health
> > > checks
> > > > > nor
> > > > > failover.which is why I would use
> WCCP
> > > or a
> > > > > layer 4 switch
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Re: ATMmachine-SDLC_line----Router----Frame Relay/IP/DLSW-------Router----SDLC_line----Tandem

2000-08-28 Thread John Neiberger

Yes, you can use Dlsw for this.  We have almost 200 ATM machines in our
network and we use DLSw+ for connectivity back to our mainframe.  Check CCO
for examples.

HTH,
John

>  Hi I would like too ask,  if I can do this using Dlsw.
>  
>  We have ATM machine connected to the router via SDLC and the router on
the other side is connected to the Tandem also via SDLC line.
>  Can I use DLSW between the routers, o I must use STUN. What other
solutions I have. (ATM is  PU2.0)





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inverse arp

2000-08-28 Thread me

Is there a command to discover ip addresses learn from inverse arp.






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Re: Http redirection using access-lists?

2000-08-28 Thread Kent

you mean the fastethernet connects to the internet or
the cache engine or both?

Thanks

Kent
--- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Kent wrote:
> 
> > Brain,
> > 
> > When you use WCCP where did you put the configure?
> I
> > mean which inferface, the one towards to clients,
> the
> > cache Engine or internet? 
> 
> you would put it on the interface which has all the
> traffic aggregated you
> wish to redirect.  Probably your fast ethernet
> interface.
> 
> > 
> > I assume it should be the inferfaces connect to
> the
> > Cache Engine and internet, but not sure. Never
> played
> > with cache engine myself.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Kent
> > --- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Khodaverdian, Hamlet wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello all,
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone used access-lists to redirect http
> > > traffic to a Cache Engine? Is
> > > > this even possible?
> > > > 
> > > > I am aware that WCCP is capable of doing http
> > > redirection and have used it
> > > > before, but I was wondering if
> > > > there are other ways to do http redirection.
> > > > 
> > > > thanks in advance,
> > > 
> > > yes, you can do this using policy routing, but I
> > > don't recommend
> > > it.  If you are going to do it, then at least
> use
> > > IOS 11.3, in which
> > > policy routing was fast switched.
> > > 
> > > In the below:
> > > 
> > > 208.206.76.0/24   LAN ethernet
> > > 208.206.76.44 Address of the cache server
> > > !
> > > interface Ethernet0
> > >  description To Office Ethernet
> > >  ip address 208.206.76.1 255.255.255.0
> > >  no ip directed-broadcast
> > >  no ip mroute-cache
> > >  ip policy route-map proxy-redir
> > > !
> > > access-list 110 deny   tcp host 208.206.76.44
> any eq
> > > www
> > > access-list 110 permit tcp any any eq www
> > > route-map proxy-redir permit 10
> > >  match ip address 110
> > >  set ip next-hop 208.206.76.44
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This will allow the cache server itself to get
> out
> > > via port 80, but
> > > anything else gets sent to the cache server.
> > > 
> > > Realize that the layer 3 header is not
> re-written. 
> > > When the cache server
> > > receives the packet, it must be configured to
> accept
> > > packets to any
> > > destination.  Each OS has a way of accomplishing
> > > this, for example with
> > > linux you would use ipchains or ipfwadm.
> > > 
> > > Policy routing has no provision for health
> checks
> > > nor
> > > failover.which is why I would use WCCP
> or a
> > > layer 4 switch
> > > 
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Re: BGP !!!

2000-08-28 Thread Subramanian Nallasivam

Hi,

  BGP is used to create inter domain free loop routing between AS.
It uses Path Vector as its metric. It carries the number of the AS as it
traverse the network to avoid loops. Hope this helps you.

-Subbi.


Raees Ahmed Shaikh wrote:

>
>
> I was always hearing about the great BGP as a very scalar
> protocol with lots of advantages, and suddenly I was a little shocked
> to learn that it was a variant of the distance-vector-protocol
>
> I have read many books praising the qualities of link-state protocols
> and mentioning the disadvantages of distance vector protocols I am a
> bit confused as a matter of preference what should I generally speak
> about distance vector protocol V/s Link state protocols.
>
> Lots of lessons and surprises to be learnt more,
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Pls .If somebody can elaborate and explain that will be great.
>
> Shaikh Raees Ahmed,
> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer,
> Cisco Certified Network Associate,
> Systems & Network,
> IT Division.



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ATMmachine-SDLC_line----Router----Frame Relay/IP/DLSW-------Router----SDLC_line----Tandem

2000-08-28 Thread Viliam Popadic



Hi I would like too ask,  if I can do this using 
Dlsw.
 
We have ATM machine connected to the router via 
SDLC and the router on the other side is connected to the Tandem also via SDLC 
line.
Can I use DLSW between the routers, o I must use 
STUN. What other solutions I have. (ATM is  
PU2.0)


RE: Video conferencing over IP question

2000-08-28 Thread Marshal Schoener

Good luck!
We looked into the same type of thing, but it seems right now the best
option
for video is ISDN :-)



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Walzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:35 AM
To: 'Cisco'
Subject: Video conferencing over IP question


We are building a Frame Relay network from scratch. We have 2 main offices
and around 8 remote offices. For equipment the four main offices will have
3640s and the 4 remote offices will have 2620s. Two of the main offices will
100 + users while the other two will have 25 + users. The remaining remote
offices will have 5-10 users. We currently run 3 ISDN lines into each office
for video conferencing and the phone bills are quite expensive. 

We are looking into running video conferencing over the Frame network and my
question concerns what switch I should install in the offices. Right now I
am looking at the 3548 XL at two of the main offices with 2924 XL switches
for the rest of the offices. If video conferencing over IP becomes a reality
in 6 months I was thinking about adding a 5000 series switch at the main
site to have a core/distribution layer with the 3548 XLs serving as the
access layer. I am concerned about the 2924 XLs in the four remote offices.
Should I look into the 3524 XL series for the remote offices to be able to
handle the video conferencing traffic?

Thanks,
Jeff

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RE: ATM Dead? Was: 350-001 examin very tough

2000-08-28 Thread Ledwidge, Feargal

I recently took the CATM class and we had some discussion over whether ATM
was dead or not 

The consensus was this:

ATM has been passed out by a combination of Fast Ethernet, Gig Ethernet and
soon 10-Gig Ethernet - some of the newer features in IOS add the QOS factor.
However, someone forgot to tell the Telco's / Service Providers. ATM is a
big big big part of their networks and will continue to be for a long time
into the future. Also, a couple of Cisco's high end routers use an ATM
backbone - so an understanding of ATM is necessary.  Also, understanding how
ATM works helps you understand how carriers provision Frame Relay - so again
ATM knowledge is good.


Also, since the earlier post mentioned Token Ring, let me take a stab at
that too.

I hate Token Ring. Not dislike - but HATE. I've always hated it - with a
passion ! But as long as people have mainframes and SNA traffic and other
legacy IBM devices then Token Ring will play an important part in enterprise
networks. Therefore a thorugh knowledge of Token Ring will be required into
the future.

Just my 2 cents.

Feargal



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATM Dead? Was: 350-001 examin very tough


It's not dead yet, but it is definitely coughing up blood...

Who's killing it? Ethernet. That's right, Ethernet... go figure.

Dale
[=`)


>From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: ATM Dead?  Was: 350-001 examin very tough
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:02:27 -0700 (PDT)
>
>But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be introducing new
>implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over the WAN is still
>fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near future, as a matter 
>of
>fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all of our main
>branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
>connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.
>
>John
>
> >  Chuck,
> >
> >  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
> >  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
> >  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
> >  mind I consider it dead technology.
> >  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
> >  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
> >  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
> >  something more interesting.
> >
> >  Regards, and good luck for the written.
> >
> >  Keep watching the skies ..
> >
> >
> >  Phil.
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> >  Stefan, sorry to hear the bad news. What were your
> >  > breakdowns?
> >  >
> >  > If you are fortunate enough to work for a Cisco
> >  > channel partner, Cisco
> >  > offers a lot of free training. Call your local
> >  > channel manager for
> >  > information. Hell, if you are a good Cisco customer
> >  > you can probably get in.
> >  > Threaten to buy Nortel stuff!  ;->
> >  >
> >  > Global Knowledge has a two day OSPF class and a
> >  > three day BGP class they
> >  > offer. I will be taking both in about three weeks.
> >  > I'll post a report when I
> >  > complete each.
> >  >
> >  > I'm doing self study on ATM, having been told by a
> >  > couple of folks, and
> >  > having determined from the blue print that for
> >  > written it is more
> >  > terminology than anything else. Embarrassed as I am
> >  > to say it, my primary
> >  > source has been ATM for Dummies ( that's enough, you
> >  > guys :-> ) which
> >  > all in all is not really that bad, and whatever I
> >  > can glean from CCO. Oh,
> >  > the QoS book by Ferguson and Huston has a very good
> >  > ATM introduction.
> >  >
> >  > Chuck
> >  > Will make my first attempt late October
> >  >
> >  > -Original Message-
> >  > From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> >  > stefan cufre
> >  > Sent:Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:10 PM
> >  > To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > Subject: 350-001 examin very tough
> >  >
> >  > Hi Guys, i took the 350-001 examin today and failed
> >  > ..
> >  > This examin was very tough and i have never though
> >  > those questions would turn up in the examin. i think
> >  > i
> >  > studied too much and being confused by different
> >  > people
> >  > saying different thing. i decided to go for training
> >  > course to get proper training. Any advise good
> >  > training
> >  > partner.
> >  >
> >  > Thks/Brgds Stefan
> >  >
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RE: ATM Dead?

2000-08-28 Thread Irwin Lazar

Tough question.  Currently, ATM is the predominant control protocol in
service provider networks, but that is starting to change.  The complexity
of managing IP-over-ATM overlay networks, as well as the loss of efficiency
due to the ATM cell-tax (especially on high-speed links) is causing many
service providers to begin to migrate ATM control planes to MPLS.  Using
MPLS, service providers can provision "ATM-like" services, but they can do
it over a variety of layer 2 protocols such as Frame Relay, Ethernet, PPP,
or ATM cells.

If you look at Marconi (formerly FORE), arguably the leader in ATM products,
they are already working on migrating their products to support MPLS.
Another item worth noting, none of the major hardware vendors that I know of
have plans to produce ATM-to-packet interfaces at speeds of OC-48 or above,
effectively killing ATM in the network core.  From what I've read, the cost
and complexity of designing the SAR process outweighs any benefit.

I believe that ATM will be around for a long while (heck, X.25 is still
around).  I believe that most service providers will begin to migrate data
traffic to MPLS control planes by converting their ATM switches to become
label switch routers.  ATM will still be used to provide CBR services for
things like voice and video, with ATM switches handling both ATM and MPLS in
"ships in the night" mode.  Over time, and as MPLS-QoS services mature, the
ATM control plane will be fully replaced by MPLS.  Once that happens,
service providers can begin to phase out ATM cells at Layer 2, replacing
them with variable length packets over PPP or Ethernet. 

Where ATM continues to thrive is in relatively low speed services such as
DSL.  Most DSL connections still use ATM framing, and probably will for a
good long while.

So, is a 3 year Masters program in ATM worthwhile?  Sure, your friend is
planning on going to work within service provider networks, and he gets some
exposure to MPLS.

Just my .02.

Irwin



> -Original Message-
> From: Billy Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 1:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ATM Dead?
> 
> 
> My friend is taking a 3 year Master program in ATM.
> Do you think that is worthwhile ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Kris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > ATM is hardly a dead technology at this stage in the game.  
> Though we're
> > not really seeing it to the desktop and LANE 
> implementations aren't the
> > hottest thing, it's an incredible technology in the 
> backbone.  Providers
> > love it because it allows us to run anything and everything 
> over it (from
> > voice to IP, and everything in between) and maintain quality of
> > service.  One backbone carrying everything.  So ignore ATM 
> at your own
> > risk, because it's going to be with us for quite some time.
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> >
> > From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: ATM Dead?  Was: 350-001 examin very tough
> >
> > But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be 
> introducing new
> > implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over 
> the WAN is still
> > fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near 
> future, as a matter
> > of
> > fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all 
> of our main
> > branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
> > connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >  Chuck,
> > >
> > >  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
> > >  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
> > >  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
> > >  mind I consider it dead technology.
> > >  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
> > >  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
> > >  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
> > >  something more interesting.
> > >
> > >  Regards, and good luck for the written.
> > >
> > >  Keep watching the skies ..
> > >
> > >
> > >  Phil.
> >
> >
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Re: Minimum BGP Address Aggregation

2000-08-28 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Howard,
>
>""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:v0422087fb5d03ca65021@[63.216.127.98]...
>
>  > >I was told by an ISP that the minimum address aggregation acceptable on
>the
>  > >Internet is a single class C address space.  Is this correct?
>  >
>  > No, it is not.  It is the minimum allocation of provider-independent
>  > space by registries.  A /24, however, may NOT be globally routable.
>
>What do you mean by "may NOT be globally routable" ? This would be due to
>the address aggregation on the the 1st Tier ISP ?  Would this be a problem
>even if I'm connected to a 1st Tier ISP rather than a lower Tier ISP ?

Depends on the policy of the particular ISP, even tier 1.  Some 
simply don't want to advertise any /24 that's not part of their 
address space, some won't do it except for direct customers who have 
negotiated to advertise provider-independent address space, some 
might not be willing to negotiate to advertise an a more-specific 
assignment of another provider's space, and some don't care.

>
>  > There are large numbers of organizations that multihome without their
>  > own address allocations.
>
>Without a address allocation, how could the multi-home be done ? Through
>use/advertising of Default/static routes ?

Several ways.  I discuss these in detail in my BGP series on 
CertificationZone, a new paper in which should be in the CCIE free 
area on September 1.

Specifically, see RFC's 1998 and 2270 for some schemes.


>  Could I multihome a network
>across different countries or different geographical region ?

You might -- which might or might not be a good idea. Depends what 
you are trying to accomplish.  When I've done this, there were some 
very carefully designed policies to protect transoceanic bandwidth.

>
>How could I ensure that the traffic takes the nearest route to the network
>and the data traffic from the network takes the nearest gateway out to the
>destination on the internet ? What is the potential problem with this ?

Not sure what you mean by this.  In general, the default of most 
routing schemes is closest exit (hot potato) rather than best exit 
(cold potato).  Again, discussed in some detail in the new paper.

"What Problem are you trying to solve?"
***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not 
directly to me***

Howard C. Berkowitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID only)
   but Cisco stockholder!
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Re: Pix Firewall Password Recovery - 2nd question

2000-08-28 Thread Art Davis

Yes, the primary unit will failover, though it may take up to a minute.
There's a bug in many versions that causes the failover process to take much
longer (10 minutes) if you're using a syslog server. They fixed it by turning
off syslogging of the failover process!




Not  a problem, since I have the OS diskette. I didn't need to do the
recovery, I was seeking the general knowledge around it. Here is another
question though.
 
When you have 2 firewalls and they are setup for redundancy, ( forgive my
ignorance if I'm using the incorrect terms and feel free to correct me. )
and one fails, does the other automatically step in, or how does that work?
 
Joey

[Fowler, Robert]  ) -Original Message-
From: Guyler, Rik [EESUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:40 PM
To: Fowler, Joey; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Pix Firewall Password Recovery


I have done the PIX password recovery per CCO and can confirm that it does
indeed work as stated.  The only "gotcha" I can think would be a problem is
knowing the correct PIX OS version running on the box.
 
Rik Guyler

-Original Message-
From: Fowler, Joey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pix Firewall Password Recovery




I've been told be someone who attended the Cisco training course on PIX that
to do a password recovery on one you have to send it to Cisco for them to do
it. However looking on Cisco's Web site I found the Password Recovery
Procedure for PIX. The only one I have access to is in production so I can't
"test" this out. Comments will be appreciated.


Thanks, 
Joey Fowler 



Arthur Davis
Network Engineer
Altra Energy Technologies



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Re: ATM Dead?

2000-08-28 Thread Billy Monroe

My friend is taking a 3 year Master program in ATM.
Do you think that is worthwhile ?




"Kris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ATM is hardly a dead technology at this stage in the game.  Though we're
> not really seeing it to the desktop and LANE implementations aren't the
> hottest thing, it's an incredible technology in the backbone.  Providers
> love it because it allows us to run anything and everything over it (from
> voice to IP, and everything in between) and maintain quality of
> service.  One backbone carrying everything.  So ignore ATM at your own
> risk, because it's going to be with us for quite some time.
>
> Kris,
>
>
> From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: ATM Dead?  Was: 350-001 examin very tough
>
> But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be introducing new
> implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over the WAN is still
> fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near future, as a matter
> of
> fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all of our main
> branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
> connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.
>
> John
>
> >  Chuck,
> >
> >  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
> >  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
> >  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
> >  mind I consider it dead technology.
> >  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
> >  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
> >  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
> >  something more interesting.
> >
> >  Regards, and good luck for the written.
> >
> >  Keep watching the skies ..
> >
> >
> >  Phil.
>
>
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Re: load balancing on Rip

2000-08-28 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

The admin distance is 120, hop count is 2 for two entries to the same
network yet when I do a traceroute it only traces through the first entry
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip


> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
>
> > How come when I do a traceroute it only shows that one path is being
used.
> > Thanks
> > Duck
>
> show us the route table output,then show us the traceroute.
>
> Brian
>
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Agnelo D'souza
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
> > >
> > > > Could You show me the commands to load balance RIP please. I have
never
> > seen
> > > > how to do this
> > >
> > > there are no special commands.  RIP will load balance accross equal
cost
> > > paths.  If you have two routes to the same destination and they have
equal
> > > hop count, then rip is going to do the balancing.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > > Duck
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:06 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: load balancing on Rip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > RIP does not support load balancing for unequal cost routes.
> > > > >
> > > > > For routes with the same hop count and pointing to the same
> > > > > destination RIP does load balancing by default and will load
> > > > > balance upto 4 equal cost routes by default.
> > > > > However, you can configure it to load balance between six equal
> > > > > cost routes.
> > > > >
> > > > > How the router will load balance depends on the switching process
> > > > configured
> > > > > on the router. For process switching the router will do per packet
> > > > > load balancing and for fast switching the router will perform load
> > > > balancing
> > > > > per destination.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of
> > > > > Agnelo D'souza
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:47 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: load balancing on Rip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > Can anyone tell me how to load balance on rip for
> > > > > equal and unequal costs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Agnelo
> > > > >
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Cable Modem problems

2000-08-28 Thread Tretter, Paul


I have a cable provider that has major problems all the time.  The
problem is that they occasionally loose the network connectivity.  They
always have us reinitialize the cable modem and get assigned an ip address
and gateway address.  Everything works for about 2 minutes and then we have
to do it all again.  The tail fin 3com modem show proper lights.  However, I
can ping my own address but no longer the gateway everytime.  I then have to
reinitialize (restart) the cable modem and release/renew my dhcp address to
get it working again.  Anyone have a clue. why this is.

Paul

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Cat 6500 using MLS!

2000-08-28 Thread Nabil Fares

Greetings,

We just got in 6500 with a router blade, trying to enable MLS using an
external router (not the built-in router blade).  I've having some problems
with the switch talking MLS to the external router, it keeps pointing to the
built-in blade, any pointers?

Thanks,

Nabil

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Re: ATM Dead?

2000-08-28 Thread Kris

ATM is hardly a dead technology at this stage in the game.  Though we're
not really seeing it to the desktop and LANE implementations aren't the
hottest thing, it's an incredible technology in the backbone.  Providers
love it because it allows us to run anything and everything over it (from
voice to IP, and everything in between) and maintain quality of
service.  One backbone carrying everything.  So ignore ATM at your own
risk, because it's going to be with us for quite some time.

Kris,


From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATM Dead?  Was: 350-001 examin very tough

But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be introducing new
implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over the WAN is still
fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near future, as a matter
of
fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all of our main
branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.  

John

>  Chuck,
>  
>  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
>  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
>  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
>  mind I consider it dead technology.
>  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
>  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
>  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
>  something more interesting.
>  
>  Regards, and good luck for the written.
>  
>  Keep watching the skies ..
>  
>  
>  Phil.


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Video conferencing over IP question

2000-08-28 Thread Jeff Walzer

We are building a Frame Relay network from scratch. We have 2 main offices
and around 8 remote offices. For equipment the four main offices will have
3640s and the 4 remote offices will have 2620s. Two of the main offices will
100 + users while the other two will have 25 + users. The remaining remote
offices will have 5-10 users. We currently run 3 ISDN lines into each office
for video conferencing and the phone bills are quite expensive. 

We are looking into running video conferencing over the Frame network and my
question concerns what switch I should install in the offices. Right now I
am looking at the 3548 XL at two of the main offices with 2924 XL switches
for the rest of the offices. If video conferencing over IP becomes a reality
in 6 months I was thinking about adding a 5000 series switch at the main
site to have a core/distribution layer with the 3548 XLs serving as the
access layer. I am concerned about the 2924 XLs in the four remote offices.
Should I look into the 3524 XL series for the remote offices to be able to
handle the video conferencing traffic?

Thanks,
Jeff

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fatkid.com - where are you ?

2000-08-28 Thread Billy Monroe

I requested 5 hour lab on fakid.com but nobody answer or confirmed my
request...
I tried to call them 5 times but it seems the phone is busy.

Have your ever had such problem before ?

Thanks,

Billy



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RE: Access-List filter & NT login

2000-08-28 Thread Nguyen_Trang

Brian/All:

Oops, sorry Brian.  That second line was not there in the test access-list.
The first line was the only line there.  I have since performed additional
test.  Here are the results:
Recap:
> > Network A = 222.9.241.0 (network connecting to outside)
> > Network B = 222.9.242.0
> > Router Interface 0/0 = 222.9.241.15
> > Router Interface 0/1 = 222.9.242.15
> > ip access-list extended Test
> > permit tcp any 222.9.242.0 0.0.0.255 established
> > ip access-group Test in (to router interface 0/0)
Objective:  Network B able to surf the web.

With only the above permit, I put a protocol-analyzer 
on the interface. I notice that dns query UDP 53 is not being replied.
so I added the following statements and the log show:

permit tcp any 222.9.242.0 0.0.0.255 established (205 matches)
permit tcp any any eq domain
permit udp any any eq domain
permit tcp any any eq echo (just for test)
permit udp any any eq echo (just for test)
permit tcp any any eq whois (just for test)
permit udp any any eq rip (250 matches) (just for test)
permit tcp any any eq hostname (just for test)
permit udp any any eq who (just for test)
permit tcp any any (just for test)

Still the test machine cannot access the web.  So I added
permit ip any any
Then the test machine can access the web.  The protocol analyzer
shows that the dns query UDP received a reply from the outside.
the hits shows up in the permit ip any any.  
The problem seems to be in the dns query UDP reply.  I thought
the permit tcp&udp any any eq domain would take care of the 
problem but it didn't.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 9:34 PM
> To: Nguyen_Trang
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: Access-List filter & NT login
> 
> 
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Nguyen_Trang wrote:
> 
> > What I am missing?  Thanks in advance for your help.
> > 
> > Objective:  
> > Hosts on network B can surf the net.
> > Specific host IP address can log into the Windows NT server
> > on network B.
> > 
> > The networks have valid class C address.  The addresses
> > have been changed in the following exhibits.
> > Network A = 222.9.241.0
> > Network B = 222.9.242.0
> > 
> > Router (B) sits between two networks A & B.
> > The Ethernet interface 0/0 = 222.9.241.26 (Network A).  
> > The Ethernet interface 0/1 = 222.9.242.26 (Network B).
> > The Networks on this router (B) are 222.9.241.0 and 222.9.242.0
> > The ip route on router (B) is 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 222.9.241.1
> > 
> > The router (A) on network A IP address is: 222.9.241.1.
> > The networks on this router (A) are: 222.9.242.0 via 222.9.242.26.
> > The ip route on router (A) is 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 is to the serial port
> > 
> > If there is no access-list on router B, hosts on network B have
> > no problem going to the internet.  If the following filter 
> is applied,
> > the hosts cannot go to the Internet.
> > ip access-list extended Test
> > permit tcp any 222.9.242.0 0.0.0.255 established
> > permit tcp 222.9.242.0 0.0.0.255 any
> 
> this is your problem.  The first line is "ok", but it won't come into
> effect until after the first packet has made it thru the 
> list.  the next
> line is "not ok".  Your saying "allow any packet to come into 
> router B's
> e0/0 so long as it has a source address of 222.29.242.0.  
> 222.29.242.0 is
> the network that will be going OUT this interface, not into 
> it.  What you
> probably meant to do was say "permit tcp any 222.9.242.0
> 0.0.0.255"...which says "allow packets in from anywhere so long as
> they have a destination of 222.9.242.0 (and are tcp of 
> course)".  After a
> packet is allowed in on that rule, further packets can be 
> caught by the
> first rule (if htey are tcp).
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> > 
> > I have not work on the Windows NT log in.  Any information on 
> > how to get this done also would be very much appreciated.
> > 
> > the list is applied to 222.9.241.26 in
> > 
> > Thanks in advance / Trang
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Cisco OPSE Test info

2000-08-28 Thread Daniel Ji

Hi, Cisco Buddies:

Does anyone know anything about the OPSE(Open Programmable Swithing
Engineer) test for Cisco Voice partner? My company asked us to take the
test, I figured out it's good for me and my company anyways, and it probably
wouldn't take much of my time beofre my CCIE Lab date. My questions are as
below:

1)What Material is BEST for preparing for the test? Any one has official
course material want to trade with me for other good stuffs(CCIE written ,
CVoice, CIM...)?
2)Is there any URL in CCO where I can get the OPSE study materials? I have
partner access to CCO.

Any comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks in advance!

Daniel
CCNP 2.0 + CVoice, Lab on Dec 7-8.




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Pix Firewall Password Recovery - 2nd question

2000-08-28 Thread Fowler, Joey
Title: Pix Firewall Password Recovery



Not  a problem, since I have the OS diskette. I 
didn't need to do the recovery, I was seeking the general knowledge around it. 
Here is another question though.
 
When 
you have 2 firewalls and they are setup for redundancy, ( forgive my ignorance 
if I'm using the incorrect terms and feel free to correct me. ) and one fails, 
does the other automatically step in, or how does that work?
 
Joey

  [Fowler, 
  Robert]  ) -Original Message-From: 
  Guyler, Rik [EESUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 
  August 28, 2000 12:40 PMTo: Fowler, Joey; Cisco Groupstudy 
  (E-mail)Subject: RE: Pix Firewall Password 
  Recovery
  I 
  have done the PIX password recovery per CCO and can confirm that it does 
  indeed work as stated.  The only "gotcha" I can think would be a problem 
  is knowing the correct PIX OS version running on the box.
   
  Rik 
  Guyler
  
-Original Message-From: Fowler, Joey 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:31 
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Pix Firewall 
Password Recovery
I've been told be someone who attended the Cisco 
training course on PIX that to do a password recovery on one you have to 
send it to Cisco for them to do it. However looking on Cisco's Web site I 
found the Password Recovery Procedure for PIX. The only one I have access to 
is in production so I can't "test" this out. Comments will be 
appreciated.
Thanks, Joey Fowler 



CCIE Lab

2000-08-28 Thread EEIEOL

A Chairde,

   Can you tell me what equipment I would need to setup a CCIE
lab?


Slan / Ed

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Re: ATM Dead? Was: 350-001 examin very tough

2000-08-28 Thread Dale Holmes

It's not dead yet, but it is definitely coughing up blood...

Who's killing it? Ethernet. That's right, Ethernet... go figure.

Dale
[=`)


>From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: ATM Dead?  Was: 350-001 examin very tough
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:02:27 -0700 (PDT)
>
>But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be introducing new
>implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over the WAN is still
>fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near future, as a matter 
>of
>fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all of our main
>branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
>connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.
>
>John
>
> >  Chuck,
> >
> >  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
> >  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
> >  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
> >  mind I consider it dead technology.
> >  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
> >  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
> >  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
> >  something more interesting.
> >
> >  Regards, and good luck for the written.
> >
> >  Keep watching the skies ..
> >
> >
> >  Phil.
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> >  Stefan, sorry to hear the bad news. What were your
> >  > breakdowns?
> >  >
> >  > If you are fortunate enough to work for a Cisco
> >  > channel partner, Cisco
> >  > offers a lot of free training. Call your local
> >  > channel manager for
> >  > information. Hell, if you are a good Cisco customer
> >  > you can probably get in.
> >  > Threaten to buy Nortel stuff!  ;->
> >  >
> >  > Global Knowledge has a two day OSPF class and a
> >  > three day BGP class they
> >  > offer. I will be taking both in about three weeks.
> >  > I'll post a report when I
> >  > complete each.
> >  >
> >  > I'm doing self study on ATM, having been told by a
> >  > couple of folks, and
> >  > having determined from the blue print that for
> >  > written it is more
> >  > terminology than anything else. Embarrassed as I am
> >  > to say it, my primary
> >  > source has been ATM for Dummies ( that's enough, you
> >  > guys :-> ) which
> >  > all in all is not really that bad, and whatever I
> >  > can glean from CCO. Oh,
> >  > the QoS book by Ferguson and Huston has a very good
> >  > ATM introduction.
> >  >
> >  > Chuck
> >  > Will make my first attempt late October
> >  >
> >  > -Original Message-
> >  > From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> >  > stefan cufre
> >  > Sent:Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:10 PM
> >  > To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > Subject: 350-001 examin very tough
> >  >
> >  > Hi Guys, i took the 350-001 examin today and failed
> >  > ..
> >  > This examin was very tough and i have never though
> >  > those questions would turn up in the examin. i think
> >  > i
> >  > studied too much and being confused by different
> >  > people
> >  > saying different thing. i decided to go for training
> >  > course to get proper training. Any advise good
> >  > training
> >  > partner.
> >  >
> >  > Thks/Brgds Stefan
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Re: Minimum BGP Address Aggregation

2000-08-28 Thread Jason

Howard,

""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:v0422087fb5d03ca65021@[63.216.127.98]...

> >I was told by an ISP that the minimum address aggregation acceptable on
the
> >Internet is a single class C address space.  Is this correct?
>
> No, it is not.  It is the minimum allocation of provider-independent
> space by registries.  A /24, however, may NOT be globally routable.

What do you mean by "may NOT be globally routable" ? This would be due to
the address aggregation on the the 1st Tier ISP ?  Would this be a problem
even if I'm connected to a 1st Tier ISP rather than a lower Tier ISP ?

> There are large numbers of organizations that multihome without their
> own address allocations.

Without a address allocation, how could the multi-home be done ? Through
use/advertising of Default/static routes ? Could I multihome a network
across different countries or different geographical region ?

How could I ensure that the traffic takes the nearest route to the network
and the data traffic from the network takes the nearest gateway out to the
destination on the internet ? What is the potential problem with this ?

Thanks.


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CCIE Lab

2000-08-28 Thread EEIEOL

A Chairde,

   Can you tell me what equipment I would need to setup a CCIE
lab?


Slan / Ed

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Re: load balancing on Rip

2000-08-28 Thread Atif Awan

Also keep into consideration the switching process configured on the router.
Intstead of doing a traceroute why dont you ping the destination and observe
the route the packets take. Do an extended ping and observe the recorded
routes.

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To: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Date: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip


>On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
>
>> How come when I do a traceroute it only shows that one path is being
used.
>> Thanks
>> Duck
>
>show us the route table output,then show us the traceroute.
>
>Brian
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Agnelo D'souza
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip
>>
>>
>> > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
>> >
>> > > Could You show me the commands to load balance RIP please. I have
never
>> seen
>> > > how to do this
>> >
>> > there are no special commands.  RIP will load balance accross equal
cost
>> > paths.  If you have two routes to the same destination and they have
equal
>> > hop count, then rip is going to do the balancing.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> >
>> > > Duck
>> > > - Original Message -
>> > > From: Atif Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:06 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: load balancing on Rip
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > RIP does not support load balancing for unequal cost routes.
>> > > >
>> > > > For routes with the same hop count and pointing to the same
>> > > > destination RIP does load balancing by default and will load
>> > > > balance upto 4 equal cost routes by default.
>> > > > However, you can configure it to load balance between six equal
>> > > > cost routes.
>> > > >
>> > > > How the router will load balance depends on the switching process
>> > > configured
>> > > > on the router. For process switching the router will do per packet
>> > > > load balancing and for fast switching the router will perform load
>> > > balancing
>> > > > per destination.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
>> > > > Agnelo D'souza
>> > > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:47 AM
>> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > Subject: load balancing on Rip
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > > Can anyone tell me how to load balance on rip for
>> > > > equal and unequal costs.
>> > > >
>> > > > Agnelo
>> > > >
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Re: About CCNA WAN Switching

2000-08-28 Thread Karen . Young


The AXIS produxt was renamed to the MGX 8220.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/74/121.html

Karen E Young
NEtwork Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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Raymond Mak
   
  cc:   
   
Sent by: Subject: About CCNA WAN Switching 
   
nobody@groups  
   
tudy.com   
   
   
   
   
   
08/27/2000 
   
11:32 PM   
   
Please 
   
respond to 
   
Raymond Mak
   
   
   
   
   



Hi,

Would someone can tell what is the difficulty of the exam?
And also I have a quick look on the book "Cisco WAN Quick Start", but it
seems that it does not contain materials about AXIS. Where can I find
more materials about AXIS?
Thanks


Best Regards,
Raymond


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Cleveland area engineer, somewhat off topic

2000-08-28 Thread Robert . Schussler

Anyone out there interested in a support position for a major backbone
provider?  Broadwing has an opening for a Sales Engineer to support 16xx to
36xx platforms in Internet, frame, and vpn environments.  CCNA, CCDA, or
even CCNP desirable.  Opening is in Cleveland.  I'm an SE in Indianapolis.

Reply offline or online at your preference.

Bob Schussler
Sales Engineer
Broadwing / Indianapolis
317-469-3719

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RE: Pix Firewall Password Recovery

2000-08-28 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: Pix Firewall Password Recovery



I have 
done the PIX password recovery per CCO and can confirm that it does indeed work 
as stated.  The only "gotcha" I can think would be a problem is knowing the 
correct PIX OS version running on the box.
 
Rik 
Guyler

  -Original Message-From: Fowler, Joey 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:31 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Pix Firewall Password 
  Recovery
  I've been told be someone who attended the Cisco 
  training course on PIX that to do a password recovery on one you have to send 
  it to Cisco for them to do it. However looking on Cisco's Web site I found the 
  Password Recovery Procedure for PIX. The only one I have access to is in 
  production so I can't "test" this out. Comments will be 
  appreciated.
  Thanks, Joey Fowler 


Re: 350-001 examin very tough

2000-08-28 Thread Kris Jacobs

Token ring dead, yes. But ATM? Not doubting, but asking.

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Phil Barker wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> I think I'll be joining you about the same time
> (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
> boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
> mind I consider it dead technology.
> The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
> rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
> with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
> something more interesting.
> 
> Regards, and good luck for the written.
> 
> Keep watching the skies ..
> 
> Phil.
> 
> --- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> Stefan, sorry to hear the bad news. What were your
> > breakdowns?
> >
> > If you are fortunate enough to work for a Cisco
> > channel partner, Cisco
> > offers a lot of free training. Call your local
> > channel manager for
> > information. Hell, if you are a good Cisco customer
> > you can probably get in.
> > Threaten to buy Nortel stuff!  ;->
> >
> > Global Knowledge has a two day OSPF class and a
> > three day BGP class they
> > offer. I will be taking both in about three weeks.
> > I'll post a report when I
> > complete each.
> >
> > I'm doing self study on ATM, having been told by a
> > couple of folks, and
> > having determined from the blue print that for
> > written it is more
> > terminology than anything else. Embarrassed as I am
> > to say it, my primary
> > source has been ATM for Dummies ( that's enough, you
> > guys :-> ) which
> > all in all is not really that bad, and whatever I
> > can glean from CCO. Oh,
> > the QoS book by Ferguson and Huston has a very good
> > ATM introduction.
> >
> > Chuck
> > Will make my first attempt late October
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > stefan cufre
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:10 PM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  350-001 examin very tough
> >
> > Hi Guys, i took the 350-001 examin today and failed
> > ..
> > This examin was very tough and i have never though
> > those questions would turn up in the examin. i think
> > i
> > studied too much and being confused by different
> > people
> > saying different thing. i decided to go for training
> > course to get proper training. Any advise good
> > training
> > partner.
> >
> > Thks/Brgds Stefan

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RE: 350-001 examin very tough

2000-08-28 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: RE: 350-001 examin very tough





I concur on the free training portion here.  I attended free switching training, which helped me some with passing the Switching 2.0 exam and will attend a 3-day advanced routing class next week.  I have already passed this test but extra FREE training never hurts, does it?  All of the training in my area is taught by a "Channels" SE, who in my case is a seasoned CCIE.  He is good as is the training.

The story I get from him is that Cisco is permitted to teach a "portion" of what the training partners provide, but they don't want to teach it all as that would remove the need to have training partners in the first place.  This way, we (supposedly resellers) can get some free training on the complex stuff and fill in the blanks via other means, like books and CCO.

Rik Guyler


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From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:49 PM
To: stefan cufre; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 350-001 examin very tough



Stefan, sorry to hear the bad news. What were your breakdowns?


If you are fortunate enough to work for a Cisco channel partner, Cisco
offers a lot of free training. Call your local channel manager for
information. Hell, if you are a good Cisco customer you can probably get in.
Threaten to buy Nortel stuff!  ;->


Global Knowledge has a two day OSPF class and a three day BGP class they
offer. I will be taking both in about three weeks. I'll post a report when I
complete each.


I'm doing self study on ATM, having been told by a couple of folks, and
having determined from the blue print that for written it is more
terminology than anything else. Embarrassed as I am to say it, my primary
source has been ATM for Dummies ( that's enough, you guys :-> ) which
all in all is not really that bad, and whatever I can glean from CCO. Oh,
the QoS book by Ferguson and Huston has a very good ATM introduction.


Chuck
Will make my first attempt late October


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stefan cufre
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Subject:    350-001 examin very tough


Hi Guys, i took the 350-001 examin today and failed ..
This examin was very tough and i have never though
those questions would turn up in the examin. i think i
studied too much and being confused by different
people
saying different thing. i decided to go for training
course to get proper training. Any advise good
training
partner.


Thks/Brgds Stefan


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Re: Good question involving EIGRP & ISDN

2000-08-28 Thread Adrian Chew

Your traffic continues to use the BRI because of the IP fast-switching cache
that is enabled by default in IOS.  On your BRI interfaces, do this:

int bri x/x
 no ip route-cache

You can also use the "backup interface" command on the serial interfaces
instead of floating static routes as you have currently setup.  The IP
route-cache can be cleared manually:-

clear ip cache

Note - I believe the route-cache should only be disabled on the BRI
interfaces in this case...  can anyone confirm this?

Regards,
Adrian

"Andre Fecteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I have two locations connected by a T1 and ISDN(BRI).  The T1 is the
> main and the BRI is
> meant as backup for just in case the T1 fails for some reason.  I have
> EIGRP running
> between the T1 with a private addressing scheme.  I have a default route
> leading out through
> the BRI interface with a Administrative Distance of 250.  The BRI
> interfaces as well as the
> interface leading to the Internet are all passive interfaces so the
> routing info won't leak into
> the internet.  I have a default route on the side of the T1 that has an
> interface leading to the
> Internet.  Everything works except once I shutdown one of the T1
> interfaces and the BRI
> comes up all the traffic continues to use the BRI even after I bring the
> T1 back online.  I
> want the BRI to go down and all traffic to resume using the T1 interface
> for obvious
> reasons.  Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my configuration?  It
> works, but not
> completely as needed!!!  Help!!!
>
> Internet connected router:
> router eigrp 10
>  passive-interface Ethernet0/0
>  passive-interface BRI1/0
>  network X.X.X.X
>  no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
> !
> ip nat inside source static X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X extendable
> ip nat inside source static X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X extendable
> ip nat inside source static X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X extendable
> ip nat inside source static X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X extendable
> ip nat inside source static X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X extendable
> ip nat inside source static X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X extendable
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 X.X.X.X   --- To the default gateway internet
> router.
> ip route X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X  250 --- To the other side private.
>
>
> Inside router (other side of T1):
> router eigrp 10
>  passive-interface BRI1/0
>  network X.X.X.X
>  no auto-summary
>  no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 X.X.X.X--- To the T1
> ip route X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X  X.X.X.X  250  --- To the BRI
> no ip http server
>
> Can I fix this problem by redistributing the static routes to eigrp?
> And how do I do it?  Cause my attempts have failed, if that's a viable
> option anyway!
>
> Thanks,
> Andre
>
>
>


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Routing Theory (RE: BGP !!!)

2000-08-28 Thread Lubbers, Robert D



> -Original Message-
> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 9:38 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  BGP !!!
> 
> To get into the detailed reasons would involve true routing theory, 
> but suffice it to say that the "disadvantages of distance vector" are 
> really specific limitations of RIP and IGRP, such as classful 
> operation, periodic update, etc.
> 
Where might this be found, Howard?  Nasty math and all.  Don't hold
back.

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RE: Higher than CCIE...

2000-08-28 Thread Phil Barker

I havn't found the start of this thread, so I hope you
don't mind me interrupting here.

I think I would be tempted to get one CCIE cert first
and then re-evaluate your position. From a marketing
angle I don't think you'll generate many more $$$/hour
having all five than just holding one CCIE cert.
Even holding one cert will give you the respect of
your peers.
If its knowledge you crave, then study for life and
you'll probably feel less anxious about proving how
good you are through pieces of paper.

I tend to use my bits of paper when I feel that I need
to which is generally once a year when I'm looking for
a contract. 

Good Luck and keep watching the skies 

Phil.
--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
>But what if you started at a young age and had time
> to get all of 
> >these things banged out by the time you were 35 and
> then tried to 
> >find a company that specializes in them all.
> 
> One of the little things that bugs me in life is
> seeing ads for a car 
> repair shop that "specializes in all foreign and
> domestic cars."
> 
> It has been said that a generalist knows less and
> less about more and 
> more until he eventually knows nothing about
> everything, while a 
> specialist knows more and more about less and less
> until he 
> eventually knows everything about nothing.
> 
> >I would want to get these certs, if not for the
> money, just simply 
> >for the hunt.
> 
> Let me simply say there's more than one kind of game
> to hunt. 
> There's a rush to seeing your name on an RFC or
> book.  There's a rush 
> when I see that I have massively simplified a
> network design 
> (thinking of how I once moved one router from
> distribution to core 
> and did away with the need for 100 static routes). 
> There's a rush to 
> figuring out the problem that an incoherent customer
> thinks they want 
> to solve.
> 
> At one time, I did rather pure IBM networking,
> including VTAM and NCP 
> gens. I could probably fumble my way through one
> today, but I'm 
> certainly not current and someone else would do
> better. But I'm 
> incredibly better at IP routing than I was back in
> the days when 
> subnets hadn't been invented.
> 
> 
> 
> >I just love the rush of seeing "congradulations" at
> the end of a 
> >cisco test. I do agree with you on your point of
> why a company would 
> >hire someone who knew it all when they just wanted
> a piece of their 
> >brain. I also think, on the other hand, that the
> sky is not the 
> >limit and the only way to get higher in life...is
> to get better at 
> >what you do. By the way, I did a double-take when I
> saw that you 
> >replied to one of my posts. I know that you are a
> very respected man 
> >in this field and wanted you to know that I
> appreciate your time in 
> >writing on this topic. Thank you from a young
> hopeful,
> 
> 
> You posted something thought-provoking and worth
> replying to.
> 
> >
> >Mark Z. ~ CCNA, CCDA
> >
> >
> >The most classic answer to many of the questions
> that deals with 
> >networks: It depends...
> >
> 
> And when your client won't accept that and demands a
> "quantitative 
> answer," 42 works very well.
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Re: Pix Firewall Password Recovery

2000-08-28 Thread Art Davis

I've had to use a special floppy for both LocalDirector and Pix password
recovery. You make the disk with a file in the Software Center.
If you crack the case open you'll see it's just a PII motherboard, with an AGP
slot!




"Fowler, Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've been told be someone who attended the Cisco training course on PIX that
to do a password recovery on one you have to send it to Cisco for them to do
it. However looking on Cisco's Web site I found the Password Recovery
Procedure for PIX. The only one I have access to is in production so I can't
"test" this out. Comments will be appreciated.


Thanks,
Joey Fowler



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Re: Passed BCMSN

2000-08-28 Thread David Williams

Couldn't agree with you more on Cisco LAN Switching book. I had Kevin
Hamilton as an instructor in my BCMSN class, and he was great. Good sense of
humor, too. We had a guy in our class by mistake for the first half day.
Kevin suggested that we force-feed him two cases of beer to flush the
unauthorized knowledge from his head. We all got a copy of the book.

"STRAND Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Passed last friday with a score of 846/1000. Two down (ACRC/BCMSN), two to
go (BCRAN, CIT). Basically my impressions are the same
> that are reflected in the archives:
>
> Know Spanning tree, MLS, trunking, multicasting, VTP, vlans really well.
>
> Here's how I passed:
> 1. Read "Cisco LAN Switching" by Kevin Hamilton & Kennedy Clark. Cisco
press.  This is a great book and I call it the "Switching
> bible".
> 2. Read "BCMSN" by Thomas, Bass & Robinson. McGraw Hill. Good supplement,
but not the bible!!
> 3. Took the 1 week training class at Mentor Technologies. Mentor (used to
be CCCI) always does a great job and the instructor, Pete
> Welcher, was superb. Really good labs. Thanks Mentor Tech!
>
> BCRAN is next. I'll check the archives for books, hints.
>
> Scott Strand
> SWIFT Network Analyst
> CCNA, MCP
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Re: Minimum BGP Address Aggregation

2000-08-28 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

If you are still thinking in terms of class C and half class C, you 
are not ready to plan BGP multihoming. You _must_ start thinking in 
CIDR terms.

>I was told by an ISP that the minimum address aggregation acceptable on the
>Internet is a single class C address space.  Is this correct?

No, it is not.  It is the minimum allocation of provider-independent 
space by registries.  A /24, however, may NOT be globally routable.

It doesn't sound like your provider understands multihoming.

>This would
>limit companies that do not require a vast amount of IP address to do any
>failover.

There are large numbers of organizations that multihome without their 
own address allocations.

>
>I have a full class C w/ one provider and a half class C (x.x.x.128-254) w/
>another provider and would like to do a multi-home  load balancing or a
>primary / backup configuration w/ BGP.

Load balancing and primary/backup are quite different. What is the 
problem you are trying to solve?  Do you have routers that can take a 
full Internet routing table (85,000 or so routes), or do you need a 
strategy that reduces the number of routes?  On what criteria do you 
want to distribute load?

>
>Anyone out there been up against this one?
>
>Mike
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ATM Dead? Was: 350-001 examin very tough

2000-08-28 Thread John Neiberger

But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be introducing new
implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over the WAN is still
fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near future, as a matter of
fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all of our main
branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.  

John

>  Chuck,
>  
>  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
>  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
>  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
>  mind I consider it dead technology.
>  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
>  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
>  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
>  something more interesting.
>  
>  Regards, and good luck for the written.
>  
>  Keep watching the skies ..
>  
>  
>  Phil.
>  
>  
>  
>  --- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
>  Stefan, sorry to hear the bad news. What were your
>  > breakdowns?
>  > 
>  > If you are fortunate enough to work for a Cisco
>  > channel partner, Cisco
>  > offers a lot of free training. Call your local
>  > channel manager for
>  > information. Hell, if you are a good Cisco customer
>  > you can probably get in.
>  > Threaten to buy Nortel stuff!  ;->
>  > 
>  > Global Knowledge has a two day OSPF class and a
>  > three day BGP class they
>  > offer. I will be taking both in about three weeks.
>  > I'll post a report when I
>  > complete each.
>  > 
>  > I'm doing self study on ATM, having been told by a
>  > couple of folks, and
>  > having determined from the blue print that for
>  > written it is more
>  > terminology than anything else. Embarrassed as I am
>  > to say it, my primary
>  > source has been ATM for Dummies ( that's enough, you
>  > guys :-> ) which
>  > all in all is not really that bad, and whatever I
>  > can glean from CCO. Oh,
>  > the QoS book by Ferguson and Huston has a very good
>  > ATM introduction.
>  > 
>  > Chuck
>  > Will make my first attempt late October
>  > 
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>  > stefan cufre
>  > Sent:  Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:10 PM
>  > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Subject:   350-001 examin very tough
>  > 
>  > Hi Guys, i took the 350-001 examin today and failed
>  > ..
>  > This examin was very tough and i have never though
>  > those questions would turn up in the examin. i think
>  > i
>  > studied too much and being confused by different
>  > people
>  > saying different thing. i decided to go for training
>  > course to get proper training. Any advise good
>  > training
>  > partner.
>  > 
>  > Thks/Brgds Stefan
>  > 
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Alternate lists

2000-08-28 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: Alternate lists





Well, it appears that the groupstudy archives are offline so I'll post this.


While I know that this list is far superior to anything out there, I am attempting to locate a comparable list for Nortel certification/education.  Yes, yes, Cisco is my preference (shields up!), but I need to learn the Nortel "way" as well since they maintain a sizable share of the market.  If anybody has any knowledge of a Nortel list, please reply to me directly.

Send all flames to: Null0


Thanks!
-- 
Rik Guyler
Principal Consultant
Internetwork Technology Leader
Cardinal Solutions Group, Inc.






Passed BCMSN

2000-08-28 Thread STRAND Scott

Passed last friday with a score of 846/1000. Two down (ACRC/BCMSN), two to go (BCRAN, 
CIT). Basically my impressions are the same
that are reflected in the archives:

Know Spanning tree, MLS, trunking, multicasting, VTP, vlans really well.

Here's how I passed:
1. Read "Cisco LAN Switching" by Kevin Hamilton & Kennedy Clark. Cisco press.  This is 
a great book and I call it the "Switching
bible".
2. Read "BCMSN" by Thomas, Bass & Robinson. McGraw Hill. Good supplement, but not the 
bible!!
3. Took the 1 week training class at Mentor Technologies. Mentor (used to be CCCI) 
always does a great job and the instructor, Pete
Welcher, was superb. Really good labs. Thanks Mentor Tech!

BCRAN is next. I'll check the archives for books, hints.

Scott Strand
SWIFT Network Analyst
CCNA, MCP

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RE: Cisco CCIE Test Lab

2000-08-28 Thread Ledwidge, Feargal

Catalyst 5000 with Fast Ethernet / token ring / LANE
Cisco 2511 (as a terminal server)
Various 2500's
2 x 3600's with voice modules
1 x 4000 router


Sin a bhfuil ..

Feargal

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Subject: Cisco CCIE Test Lab


A Chairde,
   Can I ask what equipment I would need to setup a CCIE test
lab?

   Slan / Ed

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Re: load balancing on Rip

2000-08-28 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

How come when I do a traceroute it only shows that one path is being used.
Thanks
Duck
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Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: load balancing on Rip


> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
>
> > Could You show me the commands to load balance RIP please. I have never
seen
> > how to do this
>
> there are no special commands.  RIP will load balance accross equal cost
> paths.  If you have two routes to the same destination and they have equal
> hop count, then rip is going to do the balancing.
>
> Brian
>
>
> > Duck
> > - Original Message -
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> > To: Agnelo D'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:06 PM
> > Subject: RE: load balancing on Rip
> >
> >
> > >
> > > RIP does not support load balancing for unequal cost routes.
> > >
> > > For routes with the same hop count and pointing to the same
> > > destination RIP does load balancing by default and will load
> > > balance upto 4 equal cost routes by default.
> > > However, you can configure it to load balance between six equal
> > > cost routes.
> > >
> > > How the router will load balance depends on the switching process
> > configured
> > > on the router. For process switching the router will do per packet
> > > load balancing and for fast switching the router will perform load
> > balancing
> > > per destination.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Agnelo D'souza
> > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:47 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: load balancing on Rip
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Can anyone tell me how to load balance on rip for
> > > equal and unequal costs.
> > >
> > > Agnelo
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Cisco CCIE Test Lab

2000-08-28 Thread EEIEOL

A Chairde,
   Can I ask what equipment I would need to setup a CCIE test
lab?

   Slan / Ed

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RE: Higher than CCIE...

2000-08-28 Thread Phil Barker


"Are your lambs silent now, or are they still bleating
?"


Regs,

Phil.

--- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27
Aug 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> 
> > At which point one might consider other pursuits -
> skydiving, scuba diving,
> > coaching Little League, climbing Anapurna, reading
> Toynbee's The Study of
> > History, volunteering at an old folks home,
> cultivating real friendships and
> > loving relationships. There is plenty in life to
> master, and not all things
> > must be determined by Cisco or other technology
> vendors. :->
> 
> But that's only deferring the problem, even if you
> use combos of some or
> all of the above. I mean, they're certainly
> worthwhile pursuits, but
> once you sky-dived on top of the Anapurna wearing an
> aqua-lung and
> reading Toynbee's on your way down, what are you
> gonna do next? :-)
> 
> -- 
> Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you
> want to experience
> true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty
> Rhoades.
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RE: 350-001 examin very tough

2000-08-28 Thread Phil Barker

Chuck,

I think I'll be joining you about the same time
(350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
mind I consider it dead technology.
The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
something more interesting.

Regards, and good luck for the written.

Keep watching the skies ..


Phil.



--- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
Stefan, sorry to hear the bad news. What were your
> breakdowns?
> 
> If you are fortunate enough to work for a Cisco
> channel partner, Cisco
> offers a lot of free training. Call your local
> channel manager for
> information. Hell, if you are a good Cisco customer
> you can probably get in.
> Threaten to buy Nortel stuff!  ;->
> 
> Global Knowledge has a two day OSPF class and a
> three day BGP class they
> offer. I will be taking both in about three weeks.
> I'll post a report when I
> complete each.
> 
> I'm doing self study on ATM, having been told by a
> couple of folks, and
> having determined from the blue print that for
> written it is more
> terminology than anything else. Embarrassed as I am
> to say it, my primary
> source has been ATM for Dummies ( that's enough, you
> guys :-> ) which
> all in all is not really that bad, and whatever I
> can glean from CCO. Oh,
> the QoS book by Ferguson and Huston has a very good
> ATM introduction.
> 
> Chuck
> Will make my first attempt late October
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> stefan cufre
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:10 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  350-001 examin very tough
> 
> Hi Guys, i took the 350-001 examin today and failed
> ..
> This examin was very tough and i have never though
> those questions would turn up in the examin. i think
> i
> studied too much and being confused by different
> people
> saying different thing. i decided to go for training
> course to get proper training. Any advise good
> training
> partner.
> 
> Thks/Brgds Stefan
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Cisco CCIE Test Lab

2000-08-28 Thread EEIEOL

A Chairde,
   Can I ask what equipment I would need to setup a CCIE test
lab?

   Slan / Ed

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RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

http://www.insync.net/~drews/bcran

Hth,

Ole

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN


I'm studying for the same exam. What did you use to study(etc. books 
guides)? Thank you


   Raheem


>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Thanks : Passed BCRAN
>Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:42:50 -0500
>
>I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the BCRAN
>exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
>I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole
>
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>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-28 Thread Rah Sta

I'm studying for the same exam. What did you use to study(etc. books 
guides)? Thank you


   Raheem


>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Thanks : Passed BCRAN
>Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:42:50 -0500
>
>I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the BCRAN
>exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
>I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole
>
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Minimum BGP Address Aggregation

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Bowlin

I was told by an ISP that the minimum address aggregation acceptable on the
Internet is a single class C address space.  Is this correct?  This would
limit companies that do not require a vast amount of IP address to do any
failover.

I have a full class C w/ one provider and a half class C (x.x.x.128-254) w/
another provider and would like to do a multi-home  load balancing or a
primary / backup configuration w/ BGP.

Anyone out there been up against this one?

Mike
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CIM for CCIE

2000-08-28 Thread Raymond Smith



Hey guys, 
 
Does anyone out there in groupstudy land know how effective are the new CIM 
expert labs are in preparation for the CCIE labs?  Also, I have been trying 
to find out if for example, a five user CIM kit includes 5 of the same course or 
different courses in the same kit, because a few of my buddies are considering 
pooling together to buy these CIM labs.  Anyone, feel free jump in with 
their 411?


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