Re: Scripts!!!! and no budget!!!

2000-10-04 Thread Brian


many ways to do this.

if they will enable rsh or ssh on the routersthen this can be very
easy.  You just use a simple script and rsh the commands.

Otherwise I would use perl and some of the Cisco perl libraries out there.

My last resort would be to use "expect", or opening a filehandle to a
telnet process connected to the router.

If they would just give you an SNMP Read Only access then you could get
alot of this information just by doing snmp queries..once again in a
scripted language such as Perl.

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Cthulu, CCIE Candidate wrote:

 Hi, all,
 
 I am currently on an interesting assignment where I have to pull routing
 information and address information off of about 200-300 routers or switches
 with router on a stick installed...without using ANY form of network
 management software, and using only USER level access.
 
 The information I need to know is:
 
 -what interfaces are using used   (show ip interface brief)
 -what addresses are on this interfaces (show ip address brief)
 - what routing protocols are being used (show ip protocol summary)
 - what are this's router's neigbhors (show cdp neighbor)
 -what are this router's routing protocol neighbors (use commands such as
 show ip bgp neighbor, show ip ospf neig)
 
 
 
 So, armed only with telnet, a non-enable capable user account/password, and
 my wits (stop laughing, Chuck!), I have to cull this information, and using
 that d*mned visio, make a big picture.  After that, I must take the big
 picture, and make address modifications, etc. to "improve stuff", then work
 with a team to implement this new architecture.  This organization does not
 have a consistent or clear picture of its network, but needs it for the
 major league changes it must make.
 
 
 So, my choices are to manually log onto each device, cull the information,
 or come up with a script that would log onto each device, run these
 commands, and turn on teh capture text feature of whatever terminal program
 (telnet client) I am using, and output to a simple little text file named
 after the router which has just been accessed.  Is Procomm Plus a good fit
 here?  Can I buy/download that off the web?
 
 
 My problem is I am script impaired;  I have searched the Cisco/groupstudy
 websites, and can not find any references to help me build this script.  ANy
 links would be appreciated.  I do not have any UNIX workstations available
 to me... only Windows 95 on a
 ;(
 
 TIA,
 
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RE: books for ccda

2000-10-04 Thread Trevor Corness, CCNA

This is really a question for the Associates list, but I'll answer it here,
as I am not sure if you are signed up for the Associates list.
I have been preparing for this exam, but am yet to actually sit the test.  I
have used both DCN, and Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top-Down Network Design.  I
have found both to be excellent sources of information, and plan to keep
both on my bookshelf as bible-like references in the future.  Also, I seem
to remember Priscilla having flash cards on her site for prep for the CCDA
exam (http://www.priscilla.com).

Both very good books, I found Priscilla's writing style more bearable to
read as a human trying to read it cover-to-cover.  I found DCN to be a good
insomnia-breaker, and reference guide for the concepts which I had a hard
time grasping from Top-Down (not often, due to Priscilla's excellent
explanations).  I HAVE read both cover-to-cover.. and highly suggest taking
the time to work through the case studies in the DCN book.. as I have heard
there are a lot of scenario / case studie questions on the exam.  I can not
verify this personally, as I have not sat that one.

For the DCN book, I have found pdf copies of it floating around on the net.
I am not sure about the legality of this, but do a search on Cisco's website
for it.. I believe it is usually called dcn.pdf -- I found this file a few
days after my return period at Chapters expired.. so I was out the $90CDN it
cost me.. OUCH.  But well worth the money, if you prefer bound media.

 Regards,
  Trevor Corness, CCNA MCSE MCP+I
  Network Systems Engineer, DataCom
  BMS Communications Ltd.
  http://www.bmscom.com

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sorry to bother everyone.  i'm sure this question has been asked numerous
times but I'd like to take just one last poll before i go out and spend the
$$.  what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda?  lammle's
old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno?  top down network
design by oppenheimer?

anyone's thoughts on a *combination* of these books you found helpful would
be much appreciated.

thanks again for your time,

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CCNA Virtual Lab Trainer

2000-10-04 Thread kmanojk

HI,

are You interested in a  copy of TODD lamle' CCNA Virtual Lab trainer 
2.0  for a great price?


only from those india contact me 


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RE: Scripts!!!! and no budget!!!

2000-10-04 Thread Gabriel . Neagoe

one idea to build your network is to use HP OpenView Network Node Manager
downloadable for free (60 days trial) at
http://www.openview.hp.com
It will draw the network map and give you plenty of information if you have
snmp enabled on the equipment



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tel: +401 20 40 300
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 To:   Cthulu, CCIE Candidate
 Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Scripts  and no budget!!!
 
 
 many ways to do this.
 
 if they will enable rsh or ssh on the routersthen this can be very
 easy.  You just use a simple script and rsh the commands.
 
 Otherwise I would use perl and some of the Cisco perl libraries out there.
 
 My last resort would be to use "expect", or opening a filehandle to a
 telnet process connected to the router.
 
 If they would just give you an SNMP Read Only access then you could get
 alot of this information just by doing snmp queries..once again in a
 scripted language such as Perl.
 
 On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Cthulu, CCIE Candidate wrote:
 
  Hi, all,
  
  I am currently on an interesting assignment where I have to pull routing
  information and address information off of about 200-300 routers or
 switches
  with router on a stick installed...without using ANY form of network
  management software, and using only USER level access.
  
  The information I need to know is:
  
  -what interfaces are using used   (show ip interface brief)
  -what addresses are on this interfaces (show ip address brief)
  - what routing protocols are being used (show ip protocol summary)
  - what are this's router's neigbhors (show cdp neighbor)
  -what are this router's routing protocol neighbors (use commands such as
  show ip bgp neighbor, show ip ospf neig)
  
  
  
  So, armed only with telnet, a non-enable capable user account/password,
 and
  my wits (stop laughing, Chuck!), I have to cull this information, and
 using
  that d*mned visio, make a big picture.  After that, I must take the big
  picture, and make address modifications, etc. to "improve stuff", then
 work
  with a team to implement this new architecture.  This organization does
 not
  have a consistent or clear picture of its network, but needs it for the
  major league changes it must make.
  
  
  So, my choices are to manually log onto each device, cull the
 information,
  or come up with a script that would log onto each device, run these
  commands, and turn on teh capture text feature of whatever terminal
 program
  (telnet client) I am using, and output to a simple little text file
 named
  after the router which has just been accessed.  Is Procomm Plus a good
 fit
  here?  Can I buy/download that off the web?
  
  
  My problem is I am script impaired;  I have searched the
 Cisco/groupstudy
  websites, and can not find any references to help me build this script.
 ANy
  links would be appreciated.  I do not have any UNIX workstations
 available
  to me... only Windows 95 on a
  ;(
  
  TIA,
  
  Charles
  
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: books for ccda

2000-10-04 Thread Andrew Larkins

I used the lammle book for the ccda exam about 2 weeks ago and passed. I did
have to brush up on some ccna stuff as well. You just need to have some
lateral thinking and know how to apply what is written in the book

Otherwise - in my opinion the book is sufficient

Andrew

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sorry to bother everyone.  i'm sure this question has been asked numerous
times but I'd like to take just one last poll before i go out and spend the
$$.  what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda?  lammle's
old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno?  top down network
design by oppenheimer?

anyone's thoughts on a *combination* of these books you found helpful would
be much appreciated.

thanks again for your time,

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Re: books for ccda

2000-10-04 Thread Audio Kisei

thanks for your idea/tips/suggestions.  i'm sorry i bugged the
groupstudy.cisco list with this question but i am glad to have found some
suggestions from people who have already sat the exam such as yourselves.

thanks again for taking the time, i hope i can make up the favor in the
future,

AK


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the
 $$.  what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda?  lammle's
 old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno?  top down network
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RE: Out of Office AutoReply: Juniper

2000-10-04 Thread Rayappa Mayakunthala

Guys,

I got a bunch of these. Can you all turn off the "Out of Office" replies
going to Internet on your respective mail systems? We use Exchange Server
5.5 at our site and we turn off "Out of Office" replies to Internet. I do go
out of office and I do set the Out of Office reply when I go, but none
outside my company gets that. Do they need to know on the Internet that I am
out of office?

Cheers,
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H1B Visa Bill Passed

2000-10-04 Thread JohnMail

Folks:

Yesterday the Senate passed (96 to 1) a bill to increase the quota of H1B
Visas from 115,000 to 200,000.  Also a few interesting changes have been
made to the law.  The most important one is as follows:

"Previously,  temporary workers could not accept another job other than the
on they accepted as part of the visa program, thus damping competition for
wages and workers.  The Bill allows them to accept new employment when the
prospective employer files for an H1B worker"

This measure will certainly help remove the "indentured servant" nature of
the H1B program.  Also the competition for jobs will definitely increase.
For more information on this subject check out the following articles @
TechWeb.


http://update.techweb.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eqN0BCuMn0H302KA



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Re: Napster Question

2000-10-04 Thread Jonn Martell


I'll agree with Jeff in that Napters/Scour or any client/server technology
can use HTTP to transfer files across most firewalls. 

But even with MIME content-type filtering, this would not prevent someone
from sending a MP3 declared as a GIF between custom "web" clients and
servers.

The only way fully block Web based Napster types is to look inside the
MIME files further to detect MP3 patterns (are there any?) in the files
(yuck) or return to text only (with tags of course).  There goes the GIFs
:-)

Or we can adapt to the situation and seriously examine of efficiency and
cost of the current music distribution "INDUSTRY". Personally, "I want to
pay for the songs I listen and I also want to pay for people creating
playlists. Lastly, I'll pay for the delivery (the Internet), [has anyone
figure out what a 10 minute songs costs in terms of bandwidth? MP3 would
chew up our link if we didn't limit it through QOS.] I'll give each of
these portions of the music delivery a few cents"  
In sort: "Take the INDUSTRY out of the RECORDING"

nuff rambling. 

 The Internet: Resistance is futile, you have already 
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 Tom Pruneau wrote:
  
  How about just permitting established connections. That should do 
  it, only allowing responses to you requests
 
 You're missing the point.  Napster can work around much of this.  Scour
 certainly can (it has "push" capability, using an established
 connection), and Scour fully supports HTTP protocol.  You would have to
 filter based on HTTP transfer, and MIME content-type to really block it
 completely.
 
 Blocking access to the "Napster" servers only blocks access to the index
 servers.  Actual file transfers don't involve the Napster netblock
 (AFAIK).  Then there is Napigator (out-of-band Napster index servers).
 
 It will likely only get worse :-(
 
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CCNA mark standard?

2000-10-04 Thread frank jordan

I will take CCNA soon,i want to know what 822 means .
How many mistakes i could make at most to pass CCNA.

Thanks .

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RE: booksamillion

2000-10-04 Thread Pieter Jordaan

Has anyone heard of the following book. It was published 02/2000 and is now
out of print. Why is it out of print and who has seen it?

Ccie Routing and Switching Cheat Sheet (exam 350-001) 
By Van Hoek, Andrew D.


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here are a few other others:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ 

http://www.bookpool.com/ 

http://ciscoinanutshell.com/cisco.shtml 

http://www.dealtime.com/main.asp?AID=26859eb=yes 

http://www.fatbrain.com/ 

http://www.ora.com/ 

and the best one

http://www2.ciscopress.com/

 "Vern Stitt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/29/00 05:14PM 
I always use the following search engines to find the lowest prices:


http://www.addall.com/ 

http://www.bestbookbuys.com/ 

http://isbn.nu/ 

One of these will usually find a great price!

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hi,does anyone know is there a switch simulator?

2000-10-04 Thread cslx

just like the route simulator,if there is ,where can i download it?
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in an ATM network,how can a node learn the address of LECS?

2000-10-04 Thread cslx

and how to config PNNI?


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Re: How much is CIM Expert Lab IP Routing?

2000-10-04 Thread Vincent

you can check amazon.com

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 Could someone please tell me how much is the Cisco CIM Expert Lab IP
 Routing?  It's name and part number from Cisco web site are as below:

 IP Routing simulation practice lab CD
 CIM-LAB-IP=

 Thanks.

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Re: How much is CIM Expert Lab IP Routing?

2000-10-04 Thread Vincent

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587200104/o/qid=970655854/sr=2-3/002
-9206330-2905655

after review, please tell me what's it, I am also prepare for the lab, soon
taking the written,
any information about the written exam are welcome

Vincent Chong

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if you know chinese,you can go to ciscofan.yeah.net

2000-10-04 Thread cslx


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Inverse ARP -- Layer 2 or Layer 3?

2000-10-04 Thread JCoyne

Inverse ARP -- Layer 2 or Layer 3 and why?




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Re: CWSI

2000-10-04 Thread Scott Nelson

Any reseller can give you an eval.

http://www.cisco.com/public/crs/locator/


Scott




 depends on how fast you want it.

 become a Cisco reseller (easy enough to do) then order the Not For Resale
 Kit2

 For about $500 (forget if that is Cdn/US $) you get almost the entire
 management software line for use in your network.

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Re: Inverse ARP -- Layer 2 or Layer 3?

2000-10-04 Thread JCoyne

Here is the answer Howard Berkowitz gave:

Again, you are getting into areas the original OSI reference model,
as taught by Cisco, simply does not cover.  More recent OSI documents
(e.g., Internal Organization of the Network Layer) split the network
layer into three sublayers, the bottom overlapping many descriptions
of data link:

 Subnetwork Independent (subnetwork here means type of transmission
system)
 Subnetwork Dependent Convergence
 Subnetwork Dependent Access

IP, IPX, etc., are at the subnetwork independent layer.  Frame relay
(with protocol identification), AAL, LLC, etc., are at the subnetwork
dependent level.  Subnetwork Dependent Convergence maps from
independent to dependent, such as ARP.

Therefore, Inverse ARP and regular ARP are layer 3 protocols. I'd
also argue they are edge signaling (i.e., control) protocols rather
than end-to-end protocols.

RARP and DHCP, however, are layer 3 management protocols


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Re: in an ATM network,how can a node learn the address of LECS?

2000-10-04 Thread Flem

Each LEC queries the ATM switch for the LECS ATM
address via ILMI. To enable such queries to get a
successful response from the ATM switch, the ATM
address of the LECS should be configured into the ATM
switch .

Or staticly configure the LECS address on the LEC .

PNNI is an ATM routing protocol used for routing call
setups and is implemented in the ATM switches . It is
not implemented in the LEC . 


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Free Book: ATM

2000-10-04 Thread Makarand Yerawadekar

Gang, 

Please chk the url-- 

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/lm/buffer/offer/layer3/b/1427_jump/L542-166XX


Please watch the line wrap. 



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Re: Traffic shapping,

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Fountain

How about this -

interface s0
custom-queue-list 1

queue-list 1 queue 1 byte-count 1500
queue-list 1 queue 2 byte-count 6000
queue-list 1 protocol ip 1 tcp 80
queue-list 1 protocol ip 1 tcp 20
queue-list 1 protocol ip 1 tcp 21
queue-list 1 default 2




  This should set up the serial interface to use queue-list 1 for custom 
queueing.

  Queue list 1 is set to sample 1500 bytes per round from bucket 1 and 6000 
bytes from bucket 2.

  It is then set to put anything that is on tcp ports 80 (HTTP), 20 (FTP), 
or 21 (FTP) into bucket one.  Everything else (default) is put into bucket 
2.

  This will not shape the traffic to 20/80 unless you are filling up the T1 
and there is a requirement for queueing.
  Once it requires queueuing it will put FTP and HTTP traffic into bucket 
one and everything else into bucket two.  It will then pull packets from 
bucket 1 until it hits the 1500 mark and then go to bucket 2 and pull until 
it reaches the 6000 mark.  It will then return to bucket one.  That means 
that every round of sampling from the buckets, bucket 1 gets 1500bytes out 
of 7500 total, or 20%.  Bucket 2 gets 6000bytes out of 7500, or 80%.

  It isn't an exact way to do this, and it only happens when traffic on your 
T1 is hitting the point where queueing is required, but it should guarantee 
that HTTP and FTP doesn't flood out your other traffic.






Dear Group,

i've got the following problem.or question
May your experience helps.

We have running  an new INTRNET server wich is also used by or Internationl
users worldwide. I dont want that the use more than 10 to 20% of the max
line speed (512kb)to
the WAN Provider for downloading HTTP, FTP  from the INTRANET Server into
the WAN.



INTRANET SERVER --Ethernet---Router 3620 -512kb LL co-located 
Router
3620 --FRAME RELAY 128kb LL- Router 3620---USERS


I am sure that there is a possibility to keep this traffic low. But i dont
no how to configure that on the cisco router. As i rember
is should work with custom queuing for instance. May somebody can help with
same config examples.


many many thank in advance

regards
Michael
from Austria

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RE: Token Ring Network Reference - SC30-3374-02

2000-10-04 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)
Title: RE: Token Ring Network Reference - SC30-3374-02





Try this link.
http://www.networking.ibm.com/tra/whitepapers/TR00-3.htm


HTH,
Elmer





Re: booksamillion

2000-10-04 Thread Andre' Paree-Huff

Pieter,

My first guess would be this.  The book was chartered by some publishing
house with Andrew Van Hoek as the author.  Once the book is in progress many
of the publishing houses will get it out on Amazon.com, booksamillion.com
well before it goes to press to get presales.  I would bet that sometime
during the writting stage or possibly before that it was canceled and never
published.  I have searched 4 online book store and find no recored of this
book nor of the author.  If you have an ISBN number I'd be more then happy
to do some additional searching or inquires for you as I work with several
publishing houses and if it's from one that I work with I'll see what I can
find out.

It could also be that the book contained some NDA information and Cisco
pressured the publisher into pulling it off the shelf.


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 Has anyone heard of the following book. It was published 02/2000 and is
now
 out of print. Why is it out of print and who has seen it?

 Ccie Routing and Switching Cheat Sheet (exam 350-001)
 By Van Hoek, Andrew D.


 Pieter Jordaan
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 here are a few other others:

 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/

 http://www.bookpool.com/

 http://ciscoinanutshell.com/cisco.shtml

 http://www.dealtime.com/main.asp?AID=26859eb=yes

 http://www.fatbrain.com/

 http://www.ora.com/

 and the best one

 http://www2.ciscopress.com/

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 I always use the following search engines to find the lowest prices:


 http://www.addall.com/

 http://www.bestbookbuys.com/

 http://isbn.nu/

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RE: Home lab

2000-10-04 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: RE: Home lab





Bob, talk to Brad Ellis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about this. I just purchased several items from him. His customer service was excellent (ordered yesterday, delivered today!), he included everything you need, and the prices are competitive.

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Arcane BGP question

2000-10-04 Thread Tom Pruneau

Greetings All

I have a fairly Arcane BGP question, so any help will be appreciated


I'm specifically looking at the flags in the attribute type field of the
update packet.

Bit 0 is the optional/well known bit
Bit 1 is the transitive/non-transitive bit

What I can't figure out is what determines whether a well known attribute
is a 
"well known mandatory" or a "well known discretionary"

mandatory and discretionary don't seem to be the same thing as transitive
and non-transitive (although they do seem similar)
but there is no bit (at least according to the documentation I'm
referenceing (internet routing architectures by halabi and BGP 4 by John
Stewart) which specifically states whether a well knonw is mandatory or
discretionary.


Any Help?


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Re: OT: anyone has Redback experience?

2000-10-04 Thread Brian

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Phillip Heller wrote:

 I work with Redback stuff quite a bit.  Mostly the SMS 1k and the SMS
 1800. I'm just now starting to work with the SMS 10K.
 
 Pros: 
 
   You'll swear they ripped off cisco's command parser and syntax
   Contexts are cool.

they probably did, but that "interface" is an open standardits not
cisco proprietary.  Its used by alot of things, like Foundry and Zebra for
example.

 
 Cons:
 
   Their QA process is a bit, umm, deficient. (hardware, and software)
 
 MPLS isn't a Redback technology.  It's used to provide the flexibility,
 qos, and traffic-engineering characteristics of ATM to IP networks
 (without using ATM).
 
 Juniper has a white paper on it that is a decent starting point (for
 theory at least).
 
 http://www.juniper.net/techcenter/techpapers/21.html
 
 
 --phil
 
 On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Jae  Kang wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone have a good experience with Redback products?
 
 Also I think I have a good knowledge about the follwoing two term.
 MLS (Multilayer Switching - layer 3 switching term ) and
 MPS(Multiple layer server - ATM term.)
 
 But, what about MPLS(?) Is this redback-specific?
 
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RE: booksamillion

2000-10-04 Thread Pieter Jordaan

Andre

Hope this helps

Que; ISBN: 0-7897-2324-7

Regards

Pieter Jordaan

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Pieter,

My first guess would be this.  The book was chartered by some publishing
house with Andrew Van Hoek as the author.  Once the book is in progress many
of the publishing houses will get it out on Amazon.com, booksamillion.com
well before it goes to press to get presales.  I would bet that sometime
during the writting stage or possibly before that it was canceled and never
published.  I have searched 4 online book store and find no recored of this
book nor of the author.  If you have an ISBN number I'd be more then happy
to do some additional searching or inquires for you as I work with several
publishing houses and if it's from one that I work with I'll see what I can
find out.

It could also be that the book contained some NDA information and Cisco
pressured the publisher into pulling it off the shelf.


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Subject: RE: booksamillion


 Has anyone heard of the following book. It was published 02/2000 and is
now
 out of print. Why is it out of print and who has seen it?

 Ccie Routing and Switching Cheat Sheet (exam 350-001)
 By Van Hoek, Andrew D.


 Pieter Jordaan
 The Internet Solution Hosting
 Tel: (27-11) 283 5000
 From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: booksamillion


 here are a few other others:

 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/

 http://www.bookpool.com/

 http://ciscoinanutshell.com/cisco.shtml

 http://www.dealtime.com/main.asp?AID=26859eb=yes

 http://www.fatbrain.com/

 http://www.ora.com/

 and the best one

 http://www2.ciscopress.com/

  "Vern Stitt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/29/00 05:14PM 
 I always use the following search engines to find the lowest prices:


 http://www.addall.com/

 http://www.bestbookbuys.com/

 http://isbn.nu/

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Traffic Shaping

2000-10-04 Thread FRS

Hi,

What does the IOS 'load' command do in traffic shaping and QOS situations?

Thanks


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CIT/Support 2.0 Exam and Boson Tests

2000-10-04 Thread Pickett, Mike
Title: CIT/Support 2.0 Exam and Boson Tests





Hey guys,


Just checking to see with the recent rash of people that have passed this test, if you used boson at all, if you thought test 1, 2, 3 was most similar to the cisco exam

thanks


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Re: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread .

I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
girl.
While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
training class.
So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training class manager
said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.  He
had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day ( We
had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in the
remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do even
half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing experience. My
company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint to Global
Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.

Very unprofessional of them.

After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any one.
I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
Knowledge, but this is what happened to me.


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 A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
with
 their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
had
 a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ...

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Re: ipsec isakmp problem

2000-10-04 Thread Javier Contreras

Hi
I would really recommend to go on 12.1.3ta for IPSEc, version
12.07any has the problem of asimmetric SA after some time has pass,
(not only when the session expires).
It will work for some cases, but for high traffic, forget it.
We are using 3640 + 12.1.3ta, and it is working quite well...
Of course, 12.1 will add a lot of problems on voice, routing, etc, etc
:-) you will have to live with it

Regards.


Ibrahim wrote:
 
 Hi group,
 
 We installed tunnel  ipsec (using GRE, isakmp-preshare, cisco 3640  IOS
 12.0.7XK1) between 2 routers. Then tunnel   ipsec can work, but the problem
 is after the session expired, the ipsec can't establish anymore, and we've
 to run this command "clear crypto sa"  manually on both routers, and the
 session can be established.
 
 I heard IOS 12.0.7XK1 has a problem in IPSEC, but I can't upgrade our 3640,
 every time I upgrade to any 12.1 version, All the interfaces disappear in
 configuration.
 
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Re:

2000-10-04 Thread Atif Awan

No it does not.

Atif

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Hi Groupies,

This doubt might look silly. I just saw in one of the Cramsession CID
questions that IGRP supports VLSM. Is this really true ? As far as I
know IGRP will not support VLSM. 

Anyone pls correct me if I am wrong and could you pls explain me how
IGRP can support VLSM.

Thanks in advance
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Re: CCNA mark standard?

2000-10-04 Thread Ejay Hire

This is a math question.  The Exam ranges from 300 to 1000.  There are 65 
questions.

1000 - 300 = 700 Total Points
700 points / 65 questions = 10.77 points per question.

1000 total points - 822 passing = 178 Missable points to pass
178/ 10.77 points per question = 16.6  Missable questions

You can miss 16 questions and still be a CCNA, but study to make a perfect 
score.

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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:59:01 +0800

I will take CCNA soon,i want to know what 822 means .
How many mistakes i could make at most to pass CCNA.

Thanks .

frank


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RE: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread William E Gragido

Like I said, personally, I can't say enough good about them, only hope my
boss(who I know is reading mail from this list :-), will let me go to
another class soon.

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 Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 8:56 AM
 To: J K; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
 York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
 The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
 However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
 girl.
 While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
 training class.
 So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training
 class manager
 said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.  He
 had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day ( We
 had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
 The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in the
 remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do even
 half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing
 experience. My
 company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint
 to Global
 Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
 from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.

 Very unprofessional of them.

 After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
 knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any one.
 I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
 Knowledge, but this is what happened to me.


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 Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:10 PM
 Subject: Question About Global Knowledge


  Hello all,
 
  A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
 with
  their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
 had
  a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ...
 
  thanks in advance
 
  Jim
 
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RE: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread Marshal Schoener

I just finished the BSCN class at the New York global knowledge...
I thought it was really good, and the instructor was great!!!

If I had your experience, I would not settle for them ignoring my letters.
I would be IN their office, and they would be giving me a COMPLETE
refund.  Don't let them take advantage of you!!!
Either get a free class and do it again, or get your money back!!!


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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:56 AM
To: J K; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question About Global Knowledge


I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
girl.
While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
training class.
So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training class manager
said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.  He
had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day ( We
had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in the
remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do even
half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing experience. My
company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint to Global
Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.

Very unprofessional of them.

After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any one.
I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
Knowledge, but this is what happened to me.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:10 PM
Subject: Question About Global Knowledge


 Hello all,

 A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
with
 their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
had
 a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ...

 thanks in advance

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Re: Multiple default gateways, same result?

2000-10-04 Thread Ejay Hire

Routes to an interface have a Admin distance of 0 (Connected)
Routes to an ip have a Admin distance of 1 (Static)

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 serial0.1 1
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.201.0.74 1

In theory, ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 serial0.1 1, should be more efficient 
because it forwards the packet directly to the next router, whereas, ip 
route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 serial0.1 1, will put an ARP request on the serial 
line.  The Packet still makes it either way, but the route to an IP is 
(minimally) faster.

ip route 10.48.2.0 255.255.255.0 ethernet0

If I'm understanding correctly, The router already sees this network as 
connected.  This statement would be redundant and unneccessary. (Unless you 
were redistributing static routes, but that's a different keg o' worms.)


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Subject: Multiple default gateways, same result?
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:28:46 -0500

Hey all,

For study purposes I have configured a 'remote' router (Cisco 2501) with
the following:

E0:  10.48.2.1 255.255.255.0

S0.1: 10.201.0.73 255.255.255.252  point-to-point (FR @ 128K CIR)

The 'corporate' router (Cisco 3640) is configured as follows:

E0: 10.1.1.2 255.255.0.0

S0/0.1:  10.201.0.74 255.255.255.252 point-to-point (FR)

I would like to assign the default gateway for the remote router as
follows:

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 serial0.1 1

I was wondering how this differs from using:

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.201.0.74 1

In addition, what advantage/disadvantages might I reap if I also configure
the 'remote' with the following line:

ip route 10.48.2.0 255.255.255.0 ethernet0

Are there any potential problems with the above line?


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RE: Layer3 switching - More Clarification

2000-10-04 Thread Miller, Nathan (AZ15)




If a router using silicon switching (or some other method of 
internal switching) routes the first packet and then caches information to allow 
the next packet in the conversation to be switched without looking at the 
routing table, and a layer three switch does essentiall the same 
thing are there really any significant differences between the modern router and 
a L3 switch? 
Nathan 
Miller

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  switching
  What are the benefits of layer3 
  switching (versus layer2)? Can I create VLAN's w/o using a router on a layer3 
  switch?


Re: Traffic Shaping

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Fountain

There is a 'load-interval' command that you can use to specify how often the 
router averages the load on an interface, in 30second intervals.   Normally 
when you do a 'show interface' you get a five minute averate.  With the 
load-interval command you can change that.

It that it, or are you looking at a different command?




Hi,

What does the IOS 'load' command do in traffic shaping and QOS situations?

Thanks


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Re: Arcane BGP question

2000-10-04 Thread Adrian Chew

Tom,

Not an expert by any means, but I believe here's how you explain it:-

Well known mandatory - is attributes that is ALWAYS present (eg. ORIGIN,
AS-PATH, NEXT-HOP)
Well known discretionary - is attributes that are optionally
added/configured (eg. Local Preference)

There is no bit that specifically indicated mandatory/discretionary - well
known attributes are pre-defined as per the protocol specifications and thus
should be recognized by all implementations.  Well known attributes are
always transitive.

Regards,
Adrian

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 I have a fairly Arcane BGP question, so any help will be appreciated


 I'm specifically looking at the flags in the attribute type field of the
 update packet.

 Bit 0 is the optional/well known bit
 Bit 1 is the transitive/non-transitive bit

 What I can't figure out is what determines whether a well known attribute
 is a
 "well known mandatory" or a "well known discretionary"

 mandatory and discretionary don't seem to be the same thing as transitive
 and non-transitive (although they do seem similar)
 but there is no bit (at least according to the documentation I'm
 referenceing (internet routing architectures by halabi and BGP 4 by John
 Stewart) which specifically states whether a well knonw is mandatory or
 discretionary.


 Any Help?


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Re: Layer3 switching--Follow Up Question

2000-10-04 Thread NetEng



Does a 32 port layer3 switch module then have 32 
collision/broadcast domains? What about broadcast based services?



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  What are the benefits of layer3 
  switching (versus layer2)? Can I create VLAN's w/o using a router on a layer3 
  switch?


PIX training...

2000-10-04 Thread Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan



Can 
someone recommend a good recource for learning the PIX 
firewall.

I 
heard someone say something about a cdrom from cisco, but I 
haven't
seen 
anything like that.

Thanks,
Jon


Re: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread Andre' Paree-Huff

I too am very sorry to hear about woodbridge123's experience with Global
Knowledge. Did you try calling GKN or just sending mail? did you send the
mail certified so that you get a receipt showing they received it? I have
had one bad experience with a training vendor (not GKN) and recieved 5 free
test vouchers plus a free class from them or another vendor of my choice in
the city, in cause I was really upset with them.

Concerning the instructor he should have never accepted the class that week
knowing his wife was due, And if GNK knew this they should never have put
him in the class.

I have been to many GKN training session and have nothing but great things
to say about them.
I would highly recommend them to anyone that is looking for a great training
facility to learn from.  Their equipment has always been in working order,
except for the one that a student spilt his cup of coffee in, and the
instructors have always been very knowledge in the area they were teaching
and willing to help in any way they can.  I had one instructor that stayed
late one night because the power had going out for a couple of hours.  We
finally left about 2 the next morning...never a complaint or anything.

There are a lot of great training vacilities out there.  If you have a doubt
call the company and ask for 5 or so referals from students that have taken
either classes or the exact class you are taking.  You can even ask who the
instructor will be, how many times they have taught the class and get
referals on the instructor.

Andre' Paree-Huff
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From: "Lowell Sharrah" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ""J K""
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Question About Global Knowledge


 very sorry to hear that.  I have had some not so swift istructors but
never had one walk out on a class.  Hope you get your money back.

  "." [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/04/00 09:55AM 
 I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
 York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
 The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
 However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
 girl.
 While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
 training class.
 So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training class
manager
 said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.  He
 had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day ( We
 had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
 The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in the
 remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do even
 half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing experience.
My
 company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint to
Global
 Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
 from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.

 Very unprofessional of them.

 After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
 knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any one.
 I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
 Knowledge, but this is what happened to me.


 - Original Message -
 From: "J K" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:10 PM
 Subject: Question About Global Knowledge


  Hello all,
 
  A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
 with
  their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
 had
  a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ...
 
  thanks in advance
 
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Re: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

A similar experience, but from the instructor perspective.

I don't remember, frankly, if my firm was still PSC or Geotrain 
(Geotrain formed from a merger of PSC and Protocol Interface).  GK 
bought Geotrain after I left.  In any case, I was to teach a CID in 
Toronto, in the training center there.  Since there was nothing to 
set up, I flew up on Sunday evening.

Unfortunately, the Sunday was very rushed, and I really didn't have 
time for dinner.  While picking up some prescriptions at the Giant 
supermarket, I grabbed a package of prepared sushi, which I ate as I 
packed, and left about 6 PM.

Around 9PM, I was feeling queasy.  By 11PM, in my hotel room, I 
collapsed with food poisoning, and around midnight, called for an 
ambulance because I could no longer crawl to the bathroom.  Spent the 
night in Toronto General's emergency room, which, incidentally, is an 
excellent one if you need to be there.  Definitely was reassured when 
I saw my nurse wearing a Starfleet Medical badge.

I started to call the local office around 7 AM, but everyone was in 
transit.  Eventually, I reached someone, who checked to see if any of 
the local CID people were available -- which they weren't, not 
surprisingly since I had been asked to fly in.  There was no good 
answer.  I wasn't discharged from the hospital until around noon, and 
went back to the hotel and zonked.

The next day, I made it to the training center, although my voice was 
in sad shape from prolonged vomiting.  I tried to compress the class, 
but there was no good way to handle it. My management offered them 
the option to stay or not, but, in any case, they could return free 
for another session.

I really don't know the best way to handle something like that. 
Especially for the more advanced classes, there aren't necessarily 
backup instructors anywhere. Even for basic courses, there may not be 
one in the city.

I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
girl.
While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
training class.
So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training class manager
said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.  He
had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day ( We
had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in the
remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do even
half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing experience. My
company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint to Global
Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.

Very unprofessional of them.

After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any one.
I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
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  Hello all,

  A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
with
  their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
had
  a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ...

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OT: Ethernet Trivia

2000-10-04 Thread Frank

Let's say we have a 10Mbps and 100Mbps interface.  Both transmit the same
sized
frame over the same type of media and over the same distance and neither
experience
a collision.  Which will get to the destination first?


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IP route statement

2000-10-04 Thread Dave Santeramo


I have inherited a really screwed up routing situation.  I have a 2610
which is connected to a checkpoint FW.  Between the two is a hub which
has a publically available WWW server.  As far as I understand it I should
only have to put an IP route in for:
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.97

This IP route is pointing to the distant end FR interface. What type
of IP route do I need other than that?  I believe all I need to do is
point the FW and FTP to the e0 and all the clients to the FW since they
are on NAT.  

Any suggestions?




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Re: Ethernet Trivia

2000-10-04 Thread Art Pereira

neither or both whichever way you want to look at it.


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Re: OT: Ethernet Trivia

2000-10-04 Thread Martin-Guy Richard

Both of them. I think!

Frank wrote:

 Let's say we have a 10Mbps and 100Mbps interface.  Both transmit the same
 sized
 frame over the same type of media and over the same distance and neither
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Help!!!!!!!!!

2000-10-04 Thread Study Cisco

Hi 

I am facing one strange problem with my WAN. I have 5
branches connected via leased line ( 2Mb ). Previously
they were 64 Kb. Now I have added WIC card in all
router (Cisco 3640). The connectivity is as follows

  SiteA-SiteB-SiteC-SiteDSiteE
   |   |
   |   | 
    
Site A-B = SiteB-C = SiteC-D = 2Mb. 
SiteD-E = SiteA-E = 64Kb.

SiteA to siteE and SiteD to SiteE are connected via 64
Kb and rest of them are via 2 Mb. The 2Mb between Site
B-C is new to 2 Mb. I have not use any QoS on my
router interfaces. It is set to FIFO queueing. I have
not appiled any filtering or any application level QoS
on any of router. I have implemented EIGRP on all
router as routing protocol. 

The kind of problem I am facing are as follows
1. The uucp can not copy between SiteB-C any data
between servers using uucp ( on new 2 Mb link ). But
other all TCP services work without any problem. So I
shifted from uucp to ESMTP for mail server to
communicate between site B-C. 

2. And recently I am facing new problem of .doc and
.xls file are not getting transfered on the same link.
when I use simple FTP on the same new link between
SiteB-C. It can not transfer any data of .doc or .xls
of even 10kb file size. But at the same time parallely
I am able to transfer any other data of 20 Mb of other
file format. But at the same time I am able to attach
the .doc and .xls file to mails and send them across
same link.

I am totally confused with the kind of problem I am
facing since it doesnt seems logical.

So can any one help me in this ..
Thanks in adv.

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Re: Ethernet Trivia

2000-10-04 Thread Kevin L. Kultgen

They would bith reach the destination at the same time (speed of electricity
through copper).  The difference is in the rate at which the bits are placed
on the wire, the Fast Ethernet would be placing 20 bits of information
(actually encoded as 24 bits) on the wire for every 2 bits that the 10bT
would place on the wire.  At least his is my understanding of 100bT vs
10bT..

Anybody else have different(better?) interpretations?

--
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Re: OT: Ethernet Trivia

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Fountain

Good question!

I would guess that they would both arrive at the destination at the same 
time.  The difference would be that the 100Mbps packet would finish 
transmitting first.

The difference in speed can't be propagation delay since it goes over the 
same media.  So the difference in speeds should be that the 100Mbps link is 
using less time to signal 1s and 0s and less of a delay between each bit.




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sized
frame over the same type of media and over the same distance and neither
experience
a collision.  Which will get to the destination first?


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Re: Home lab

2000-10-04 Thread Bob Edmonds


Thanks for all the great suggestions eveyone!!! I'm sure they'll be helpful.


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Re: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread .

Since my company at that time was paying for the course, they were the ones
who sent the letter to GKN...
dont think it was by certified mail.
The instructor did mention to us that this wife is due, but he assured us
that she was not due till  a week later.  We all felt that he should not
have accepted the class under such circumstances.
The second instructor who showed up was very good. but due to paucity of
time he had to rush through the material.
We didnt have an option to stay late as the people managing that GKN
training class were not ready to keep it open.
I few months later I resigned from that company which had sent me for
training, so I didnt follow up about getting a free class.
Like i mentioned earlier, this is my personal experience. I felt that it was
very unprofessional of GKN not to even bother to reply to our complaint
letters.
There were some guys from ATT with me on the class. Some months later I
heard from them that their Training dept too had no success in getting a
replacement class from GKN.


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 I too am very sorry to hear about woodbridge123's experience with Global
 Knowledge. Did you try calling GKN or just sending mail? did you send the
 mail certified so that you get a receipt showing they received it? I have
 had one bad experience with a training vendor (not GKN) and recieved 5
free
 test vouchers plus a free class from them or another vendor of my choice
in
 the city, in cause I was really upset with them.

 Concerning the instructor he should have never accepted the class that
week
 knowing his wife was due, And if GNK knew this they should never have put
 him in the class.

 I have been to many GKN training session and have nothing but great things
 to say about them.
 I would highly recommend them to anyone that is looking for a great
training
 facility to learn from.  Their equipment has always been in working order,
 except for the one that a student spilt his cup of coffee in, and the
 instructors have always been very knowledge in the area they were teaching
 and willing to help in any way they can.  I had one instructor that stayed
 late one night because the power had going out for a couple of hours.  We
 finally left about 2 the next morning...never a complaint or anything.

 There are a lot of great training vacilities out there.  If you have a
doubt
 call the company and ask for 5 or so referals from students that have
taken
 either classes or the exact class you are taking.  You can even ask who
the
 instructor will be, how many times they have taught the class and get
 referals on the instructor.

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  very sorry to hear that.  I have had some not so swift istructors but
 never had one walk out on a class.  Hope you get your money back.
 
   "." [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/04/00 09:55AM 
  I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
  York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
  The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
  However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
  girl.
  While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
  training class.
  So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training class
 manager
  said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.
He
  had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day
( We
  had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
  The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in
the
  remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do
even
  half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing experience.
 My
  company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint to
 Global
  Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
  from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.
 
  Very unprofessional of them.
 
  After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
  knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any
one.
  I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
  Knowledge, but this is what happened to me.
 
 
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Re: OT: Ethernet Trivia

2000-10-04 Thread Bob Edmonds

I'm going to have to say that the answer to that is: The one that transmitts
first!  The question never said that they were transmitting at the same time
and/or on the same physical segment.

 Let's say we have a 10Mbps and 100Mbps interface.  Both transmit the same
 sized
 frame over the same type of media and over the same distance and neither
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Re: Traffic Shaping

2000-10-04 Thread FRS

Michael,

Thanks for the reply.
Is there any 'load' command that specified percentages example, ' load 30'
meaning 30% utilization?

Thanks,

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 There is a 'load-interval' command that you can use to specify how often
the
 router averages the load on an interface, in 30second intervals.
Normally
 when you do a 'show interface' you get a five minute averate.  With the
 load-interval command you can change that.

 It that it, or are you looking at a different command?



 
 Hi,
 
 What does the IOS 'load' command do in traffic shaping and QOS
situations?
 
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Re: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread Jim Erickson

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Re: OT: Ethernet Trivia

2000-10-04 Thread Nnanna Obuba


Let's say we have a 2 lane and a 5 lane road, 2 cars
travel at the same speed over those roads,and neither
experiences traffic, which will do 100 miles first?


--- Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let's say we have a 10Mbps and 100Mbps interface. 
 Both transmit the same
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 first?
 
 
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RE: Traffic Shaping

2000-10-04 Thread Barnhill, Don

The load command can be used for a backup interface:

Using the configuration that follows, BRI 2/0 is activated only when the
load on serial 0 (the primary line) exceeds 75 percent of its bandwidth. The
backup line is deactivated when the aggregate load between the primary and
backup lines is within five percent of the primary line's bandwidth:

interface serial 1/0
 ip address 172.20.1.4 255.255.255.0
 backup interface bri 2/0
 backup load 75 5

This information was found on the following site:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd2010.htm#xtocid29884
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Michael,

Thanks for the reply.
Is there any 'load' command that specified percentages example, ' load 30'
meaning 30% utilization?

Thanks,

""Michael Fountain"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 There is a 'load-interval' command that you can use to specify how often
the
 router averages the load on an interface, in 30second intervals.
Normally
 when you do a 'show interface' you get a five minute averate.  With the
 load-interval command you can change that.

 It that it, or are you looking at a different command?



 
 Hi,
 
 What does the IOS 'load' command do in traffic shaping and QOS
situations?
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: Traffic Shaping

2000-10-04 Thread FRS

Don,

The command I am referring to is just 'load 30'.
There is no other words after or before 'load'.

All help appreciated.


""Barnhill, Don"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 The load command can be used for a backup interface:

 Using the configuration that follows, BRI 2/0 is activated only when the
 load on serial 0 (the primary line) exceeds 75 percent of its bandwidth.
The
 backup line is deactivated when the aggregate load between the primary and
 backup lines is within five percent of the primary line's bandwidth:

 interface serial 1/0
  ip address 172.20.1.4 255.255.255.0
  backup interface bri 2/0
  backup load 75 5

 This information was found on the following site:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd2010.htm#xtocid29884
 13

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 Michael,

 Thanks for the reply.
 Is there any 'load' command that specified percentages example, ' load 30'
 meaning 30% utilization?

 Thanks,

 ""Michael Fountain"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  There is a 'load-interval' command that you can use to specify how often
 the
  router averages the load on an interface, in 30second intervals.
 Normally
  when you do a 'show interface' you get a five minute averate.  With the
  load-interval command you can change that.
 
  It that it, or are you looking at a different command?
 
 
 
  
  Hi,
  
  What does the IOS 'load' command do in traffic shaping and QOS
 situations?
  
  Thanks
  
  
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Boson - Is it worth the time and money?

2000-10-04 Thread Ariel

I am trying to learn, not only pass the exam.  I think I'm ready.  However,
I would like a leg up too and not waste money on taking the exam.

What is your two cents?  Should I purchase it?  One or all three?


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Re: Cisco offering CCNP Specialization classes

2000-10-04 Thread Jim Barksdale

I have already taken the MCNS (Managing Cisco Network Security) class through
Ascolta.  Tough class, you go over alot of material in only a week.  Still
studying to prepare for the test.

Carter Jared wrote:

 This was taken from cisco.com:

 Three CCNP Security Specialization courses corresponding to the upcoming
 specialization exams are expected to be available in mid-late fall. The
 upcoming courses are Cisco Secure Pix Firewall Fundamentals, Cisco Secure
 PIX Firewall Advanced, and Cisco Secure Virtual Private Networks.
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Re: Boson - Is it worth the time and money?

2000-10-04 Thread Elvis Domínguez

Buy it. It´s Good to practice...

Elvis

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Re: CIT/Support 2.0 Exam and Boson Tests

2000-10-04 Thread Patrick Bass
Title: CIT/Support 2.0 Exam and Boson Tests



CIT # 2 is the best from Boson.

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  Hey guys, 
  Just checking to see with the recent rash of people 
  that have passed this test, if you used boson at all, if you thought test 1, 
  2, 3 was most similar to the cisco exam
  thanks 
  Mike Pickett Enterprise Network Consultant Worldcom 770-284-5844 
  Pager: 800-724-3624 Pin: 1684328 


LOOKING FOR CCIE STUDY GROUP DC/VA AREA

2000-10-04 Thread Steven B. Holmes

I'm looking for a study group in the DC/VA area!  Will help pay for rack
time or etc


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Re: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-04 Thread Mark

I recently took the Routing class from Global Knowledge.  The class was
great, instructor well prepared and a great facility also.  This was in
Denver.  I took the exam after some review a week later and passed.  I was
very satisfied with them.  Also they do have a policy that if you take a
class and within one year you want to audit the class again, bring your
books and if there is enough room you may sit for the class again at no
charge.

This is a policy I have found with many training sites.

Good Luck

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 A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
with
 their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
had
 a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ...

 thanks in advance

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Re: Boson - Is it worth the time and money?

2000-10-04 Thread Brian Jackson

I used the Boson Expansion pack #2 to pass the CCDA. It helped me pass the
test and further my understanding of the material.


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 Helped alot with 640-504 switching

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 However,
  I would like a leg up too and not waste money on taking the exam.
 
  What is your two cents?  Should I purchase it?  One or all three?
 
 
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path exists in BGP table, but no route in IP Routing table

2000-10-04 Thread Sean Wu

So what possible reason can cause this problem?

I have four routers,

R1 --- R2
 ^   ^
 |   |
 |   |
 |   |
 v   v
R3 --- R4

AS1: R1
AS2: R2
AS3: R3+R4
IBGP between R3 and R4, EBGP between R1/R2, R2/R4, R1/R3
Everything else looks fine, and almost symetric configuration on R1/R3 and
R2/R4
But R3 can see R2 in routing table and BGP table, while
R4 doesn't see R1's ip in ip routing table, but it does see R1 in BGP table
via two different paths

Any idea?

Thanks,


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Re: path exists in BGP table, but no route in IP Routing table

2000-10-04 Thread Patricia Palance

try 'no sync' in your BGP config.

A show IP bgp would help too.
Might try 'next-hop-self' on neighbor statement to R4.


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 So what possible reason can cause this problem?

 I have four routers,

 R1 --- R2
  ^   ^
  |   |
  |   |
  |   |
  v   v
 R3 --- R4

 AS1: R1
 AS2: R2
 AS3: R3+R4
 IBGP between R3 and R4, EBGP between R1/R2, R2/R4, R1/R3
 Everything else looks fine, and almost symetric configuration on R1/R3 and
 R2/R4
 But R3 can see R2 in routing table and BGP table, while
 R4 doesn't see R1's ip in ip routing table, but it does see R1 in BGP
table
 via two different paths

 Any idea?

 Thanks,


 Sean


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Re: Help!!!!!!!!!

2000-10-04 Thread Jack Walker

Could be a carrier issue, try extended ping using various date sizes till
the largest 1500 if you only have ethernet, see what happens, and pls let
use know the result.
Good Luck

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 Hi

 I am facing one strange problem with my WAN. I have 5
 branches connected via leased line ( 2Mb ). Previously
 they were 64 Kb. Now I have added WIC card in all
 router (Cisco 3640). The connectivity is as follows

   SiteA-SiteB-SiteC-SiteDSiteE
|   |
|   |

 Site A-B = SiteB-C = SiteC-D = 2Mb.
 SiteD-E = SiteA-E = 64Kb.

 SiteA to siteE and SiteD to SiteE are connected via 64
 Kb and rest of them are via 2 Mb. The 2Mb between Site
 B-C is new to 2 Mb. I have not use any QoS on my
 router interfaces. It is set to FIFO queueing. I have
 not appiled any filtering or any application level QoS
 on any of router. I have implemented EIGRP on all
 router as routing protocol.

 The kind of problem I am facing are as follows
 1. The uucp can not copy between SiteB-C any data
 between servers using uucp ( on new 2 Mb link ). But
 other all TCP services work without any problem. So I
 shifted from uucp to ESMTP for mail server to
 communicate between site B-C.

 2. And recently I am facing new problem of .doc and
 .xls file are not getting transfered on the same link.
 when I use simple FTP on the same new link between
 SiteB-C. It can not transfer any data of .doc or .xls
 of even 10kb file size. But at the same time parallely
 I am able to transfer any other data of 20 Mb of other
 file format. But at the same time I am able to attach
 the .doc and .xls file to mails and send them across
 same link.

 I am totally confused with the kind of problem I am
 facing since it doesnt seems logical.

 So can any one help me in this ..
 Thanks in adv.

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ISP books

2000-10-04 Thread Jack Walker

Hi group,

I am looking for some books on the ISP or ASP design/implemtation,
any information would be great help.

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Re: major BCMSN(504) question who passed it?

2000-10-04 Thread Rod Christie

Passed last week. all the replies are correct. I used cisco press, Exam Cram
and boson test #1. The exam cram was easy to read and the boson was over
kill, but great.

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 when I looked at it, it said that I have to know Catalyst 3000 switches

 BUT I have the BCMSN Cisco press book by Karen WEbb and Catalyst start at
 4000
 not one  word on 3000 switches

 should I tell brainbuzz  to buzz off or what ?

 thanks for your help can't wait to pass this test any tips on study
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