Re: Cisco Visio Icons

2000-11-09 Thread Sudhir Chitla


Dear Smith,

You can get the icons you need in the Cisco Config
Maker Solftware utility..!!
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/nemnsw/cm/index.shtml

Hope this helps your need..!

-Chitla Suhdir 
  CCNA, NCIP, CNA
Network Analyst,
Navayuga Infotech,
India.

--- Karen Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello
guys,
 Could anyone tell me how can I get the icons for
 Visio
 Cisco uses on their books, such as routers,
 switches,
 etc?  Are they copyrighted or can you actually
 use/purchase them?  If so, are there other icons
 similar available elsewhere?  I purchased Visio
 Professional but it didn't come with the generic
 icons
 cisco uses.
 Thanks,
 Karen
 


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No Subject

2000-11-09 Thread rajeshkumar






RE: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule

2000-11-09 Thread John Nemeth

On Mar 8,  3:01am, Bernard wrote:
}
} The rule is:
} connecting devices of the same OSI layer, use cross-over cable.
} connecting devices of different layers, use straight through.

 Hubs are at layer 1 and switches are at layer 2.  If you're
connecting a hub to a switch, you need to use a crossover cable.  So,
this rule doesn't work.  The real rule is, if you're connecting a
hub/switch to a hub/switch use a crossover, otherwise use a straight
through cable.

}-- End of excerpt from Bernard

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Re: CCIE 350-001: prep kit question.

2000-11-09 Thread John Nemeth

On Mar 8,  5:00am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
} 
} CCIE 350-001: prep kit
} 
} page 332 "netBIOS is not routable, but NetBEUI is"
} 
} Is this right? I thought that NetBEUI was unroutable?

 No.  First off, NetBIOS is not a network protocol, it is an API
(i.e.  a way for an application program to use a networking protocol).
So, asking whether NetBIOS is routable or not is a nonsensical
question.  NetBEUI is a networking protocol.  It does not have the
concept of a network address, only a host address, so you are right
that it is non-routable.

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No Subject

2000-11-09 Thread FARHAN AHMED

 
 

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CPU utlization of a single voip cirtcuit

2000-11-09 Thread Yuen Me

Our company is planning to implement VoIP on top of existing cisco network 
and I'm conducting network audit. Can somebody advise me the resource 
consumption in term of CPU utilization / Buffer utilization across all 
platforms (26XX ... 75xx) for a single voip circuit ? My logic if my current 
4700 spends 40% CPU utilization on pure data and each voice circuits (50 
pps) consumes 2%, I should not put more than 10 circuits to keep cpu in the 
safe zone of 60%. Similar logics for buffer.

The assumption of voice circuit is: VoIP, G.729r8, no VAD.

If you have conducted such kind of network audit for voip implementation 
before, appreciate if you can share with me privately. Thanks.

Yuenme


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Re: [RE: CID Test]

2000-11-09 Thread A.Strobel

I used Cisco Internetwork Design by Matthew Birkner (Cisco Press) and used
Boson practice tests. I passed with 87%.

I don't think I could have passed without the Boson practice tests.

A. Strobel



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   Attachment:  
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 Forget the Cisco Press book; in my opinion it bounces around from topic to
 topic and doesn't address any single item deeply enough to be terribly
 helpful. Top-Down is a good book for all around network design topics, but
 isn't geared toward the exam. My personal preference for CID preparedness
is
 Robert Padjen's (Sybex) Cisco Internetwork Design.
 
 - Don
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hubert Pun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:13 PM
 To: Cisco Study Group
 Subject: CID Test
 
 
 I am planning to write the CID test.  Which book, the Cisco Press CID
 book or the Top Down Network is more useful for passing the exam?
 
 and btw, which book is more useful for the CCIE written exam?  and which
 one is actually more useful in real life?
 
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passed CCNP

2000-11-09 Thread zl




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RE: isdn question

2000-11-09 Thread Sebastien Venturoso

What about put a dialer map in Router B without a number to call ?

That should work.

Regards,
Sebastien.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brian
Sent: 09 November 2000 07:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: isdn question



I am trying to setup an isdn scenerio, where routerA has 1 B channel, and
routerB has 1 B channel.  routerA calls routerB, and then traffic
bi-directionally flows over the single B channel.

What i am running into though, is if I leave the dialer map off routerB,
then it complains "no dialer string" for the return path packets.  If I
put the dialer map in place, it complains "no channel available" (because
its "busy" since its already connected from answering routerA's call).

So my question is, how do you get the traffic to flow bi-directional over
a single channel, so that routerB needs no dialer map.

routerA
===
interface BRI0
 ip address 212.1.22.146 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 bandwidth 128
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 10
 dialer map ip 212.1.22.145 6711173
 dialer-group 1
 isdn spid1 31867111720101

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 212.1.22.145

dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

routerB
===
interface BRI0
 ip address 212.1.22.145 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 bandwidth 128
 isdn spid1 31867111730101
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 10
 dialer-group 1

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 212.1.22.146

dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit


Thanks for any help,

Brian

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PAgP Message

2000-11-09 Thread Amit Gupta (EHPT) IS-IT
Title: PAgP Message 





Hi,


I am preparing for the CCNP Exams. I would like to know the reason for the following messages i am getting on my 6009 switch.


6000 (enable) 2000 Nov 07 01:39:08 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 2/46 left bridg
e port 2/46
2000 Nov 07 01:39:10 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 2/46 joined bridge port 2/46
2000 Nov 07 01:41:36 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 2/32 left bridge port 2/32
2000 Nov 07 01:41:37 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 2/32 joined bridge port 2/32
2000 Nov 07 01:43:35 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 2/32 left bridge port 2/32
2000 Nov 07 01:43:37 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 2/32 joined bridge port 2/32


This results in frequent disconnections from the ports.
Need your suggestions



Regds
Amit









RE: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Sebastien Venturoso

You might think also to implement MLS (Multi Layer Switching) in your
Catalyst 5500,
after you have followed Peter recommendations.

Sebastien.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Peter Van Oene
Sent: 09 November 2000 00:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why not supernetting?



Outside of anything more "best practice design" specific which others are
and I'm sure will cover, I would look at your 100 meg downlinks (connections
from edge switches to aggregation switches back to 5500 in increasing order
of importance)  Specifically, check to ensure that your duplexes on either
end of the connections are set the same.  Futher, look at error counts
(crc's, runts etc) to ensure that these links are performing adequately.
I've seen duplex mismatches cause exactly this type of "tragic" performance
as you describe it.

Peter


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 11/8/2000 at 2:13 PM jeongwoo park wrote:

Hi All,

I am looking for advice on a LAN performance issue. i
am running primarily NT4 and win2K boxes on a 100Mbit
UTP Ethernet LAN.

my servers are on static IPs on one subnet while my
clients pick up DHCP addresses (assigned out of my
control) in any one of half a dozen other subnets.
file transfer and printing performance between client
and server is averaging 1Mbit/sec when computers are
in different subnets. switch the same two computers to
static IPs in the same subnet and throughput jumps to
a respectable 30-70Mbit/sec. i need to keep the
clients on DHCP as i don't have enough static IPs to
go around for the subnet the servers are in.

all clients and servers are attached to one of 5
Allied Telesyn 8126XL 24-port managed switches. all 5
of these "edge" switches connect to another switch of
the same model with a 100Mbit multi-mode (1300
nanometer) fiber uplink which connects to a Cisco
Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs.

When the clients are on different subnets the file
transfers appear to take a long trip through the
router with a huge performance penalty (1Mbit/sec).
when the client and server are on the same subnet the
packets do NOT appear to be routed (perhaps they are
handled using ARP?) and the performance is very good.
ping response times on both switches and routers is
under 20ms. This is where I believe supernetting could
be a solution to this slowness, because I think
supernetting allows me to put all stations in the same
subnet, witch avoids routing needs.

I got some responses to my previous post from people
saying that supernetting would slow down the speed
because there would be too many stations in big
broadcast domain, which contradicts what I am willing
to do.

Am i missing some key concepts here that might improve
my understanding of this tragic performance?


any help would be greatly appreciated.

take care,

jw


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RE: CID (640-025)

2000-11-09 Thread McCallum, Robert

Unless I'm reading this wrong the question refers to the CID test while the
answer below refers to the DCN test.  

Read Advanced IP Network Design Cisco Press.  Routing TCPIP - The illusive
Jeff Doyle and IF you want CCIE network design fundamentals.

Enjoy!

-Original Message-
From: Croyle, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 November 2000 20:29
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: CID (640-025)


After reading Priscilla's book, I read the Cisco Press DCN, and finished the
test in 90 minutes, got 830 or so, and thought it was the most straight
forward Cisco test yet.  Hint.  Draw the case studies in completely, and
refer back to them.  Don't redraw, and add detail each time, that is simply
a time-waster.

Jim Croyle

Network Engineer

PS  Thanks Priscilla for your assistance, both in this list, and from the
book on my shelf.  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Carl Mirsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CID (640-025)


Howdy Folks.  Just passed my CIT yesterday and finished my CCNP. Another
goofy test.  Unlike the other exams, there were no choices to select for the
fill-ins. You need to know your CLI commands.  I would like to thank
everyone on this list for helping me out.   I am planning on taking the CID
next.  What are the best study guides for the exam in your opinion?  I
already have Top Down by Priscilla and have read this for the CCDA.  Thanks
for your input.

" Integrity Can Be Communicated"

Carl Mirsky
CCNP, MCSE, SCSA
Technical Solutions Consultant
Sprint ENS


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RE: CID or Core Tests?

2000-11-09 Thread McCallum, Robert

I personally would get your CCNP before your conquest on to the CID.  The
CID is the hardest exam in the series of NP/DP.  It also bears no
resemblance to the DCN.  The DCN is more scenarios, whereas the CID is more
into the actual workings of the protocols.  

In my opinion I would never have passed the CID without first taking the
CCNP track.

My 2p

-Original Message-
From: Mike McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2000 03:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CID or Core Tests?


I have been a fly on the wall for some time. I have been able to find the
answers to most of my questions from the archives or current threads, but
this one has me stumped.

I have had my CCNA for about a year and just recently passed the DCN test.
keeping in mind I wish to complete CCNP/DP certifications, my questions is
as follows.

Should I sit the CID test and get that out of the way while the DCN info is
fresh, or should I take the core tests to prepare for the CID?
I'm leaning towards CID, but would like feedback from those who have been
there.

TIA,
Mike



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VoIP PC cards... Help

2000-11-09 Thread Sudhir Chitla

Dear All,

We are planning to implement VoIP solution with low
budget. Could any one give me the details about the
VoIP PC Cards like Micom Voice Cards. I was told that
"Micom Voice Cards" are not available in the market is
that's true..?

Thanks,

Chitla Sudhir
  CCNA, NCIP, CNA
Network Analyst,
India.



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RE: Backup Interface and Routing!

2000-11-09 Thread McCallum, Robert

Remember to add the word "broadcast" on to the end of your dialer map
statement or else the routing updates will not traverse your ISDN line.

-Original Message-
From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 November 2000 22:19
To: Hans Schimek
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backup Interface and Routing!


On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Hans Schimek wrote:

 Hi!
 
 i configured a serial link and an ISDN link between two routers.
 the serial line is the primary line. if it fails the backup line
  ISDN-Interface)
 takes over.
 i configured RIP -
 To prevent Routing Updates from establishing the call
 i set the ISDN-Interface as PASSIVE.
 Updates didn`t initate the call anymore.
 BUT !
 what about the routing information. if the primary fails, no routing
updates
 won`t flow. so i configured static routes with a higher administrative
 distance
 -

configure the static route with a high AD like you did.  Don't make the
BRI passive, instead just use a dialer-list to define RIP as
"uninteresting".  Something like this:


interface BRI0
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 bandwidth 128
 isdn spid2 00055512130101
 dialer map ip 192.168.1.2 5551212
 dialer-group 1
!
router rip
 network 192.168.1.0
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.2 240
access-list 101 deny udp any any eq rip
access-list 101 permit ip any any
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101




 
 IS THERE ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM !
 
 
 thanx in advance
 
 
 
 
 =
 Hans Schimek
 
 Student
 Fachhochschule St. Pölten f.
 Telekommunikation und Medien
 
 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  gsm  : +43 699 10605315
  fax  : +43 3613 2311 4
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Useful CCNA Study Material

2000-11-09 Thread Peter_McCracken


Folks,

For those of you who are about to take the CCNA test the following link :-

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/index.htm

a lot of the info here will help you with this test.

 typically I found this stuff AFTER I sat the exam ..

RgS Peter.

Peter McCracken
Technical Consultant

DMR Consulting Ireland
00 353 1 813 6944
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Re: NT1 needed

2000-11-09 Thread John Nemeth

On Feb 5,  4:46am, Brian wrote:
} 
} Does anyone know of an NT1 model that will allow the connection of 2 S/T
} interfaces (2 different routers) so that each can use a single chennel of
} the single ISDN line connected to it (like a splitter).

 The S/T bus is a parallel bus.  You can connect up to eight
devices to it (they are distinguished by their TEI -- Terminal Endpoint
Idenifier).  You don't need a special NT1, just a splitter which you
plug into any NT1.  I have seen eight-way splitters built just for this
purpose, but I don't know where to get them.

}-- End of excerpt from Brian

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Upgrade Cisco 2610

2000-11-09 Thread carmelo Garofalo

Hi Guys,
in my site there is a Cisco Router 2610 with the following hardware and
software configuration:

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-D-M), Version 12.0(5)T1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 17-Aug-99 13:11 by cmong

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

roma uptime is 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on at 10:44:34 UTC Fri Jan 7 2000
System image file is "flash:c2600-d-mz.120-5.T1"

cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 20480K/4096K bytes of
memory
.
Processor board ...
M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
2 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
4 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

The WIC ( 2 Serial Sync/Async) are busy for two sites, i must do  a new site
with a link at 2 Mbit. The configuration hardware ( 2 Low speed serial), of
course, don't support the new link.

With this architecture Can I  repalce the WIC Low Speed Serial with the
other WIC Serial (Sync/Async) at 2 Mbit?

Regards,

Carmelo


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RE: Classes for CCNP

2000-11-09 Thread Shaun Wakelen

Take the BSCN and BCMSN courses. IMHO these are the hardest exams out of the
four. I did actually go on the CIT course, but some of what this covers is
in the routing and switching courses. I bought the 'Building Cisco Remote
Access Networks' book by Tom Thomas, and along with the relevant Boson
testers managed to attain my CCNP.

Regards
Shaun Wakelen


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Hello all.  I have a small dilemma and I need your opinions...my
employer
will allow me to take two of the four classes for CCNP.  Which two
are
the most important/hardest?  BCMSN, BSCN, BCRAN, CIT?

Thanks!
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3640 and 12.09 IOS

2000-11-09 Thread Israr Akram

Does the 3640 with 12.09 support the "Format and Squeeze" commands. as its
coming up with unrecognised command response.  On Cisco website it covers
partitioning, erasing flash but not formatting. it also covers Copying a
File from a Flash Memory Card to System Flash Memory, but not squeeze
command. Both commands are not highlighted in the s/w bug listed for 12.09
and 3640.

Any advise appreciated


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Re: ################### CCIE LAB Scenarios ######################

2000-11-09 Thread tony

   www.ccbootcamp.com is the best.
   www.fatkid.com is free.
   

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ISDN and VOICE cables for back to back connectivity

2000-11-09 Thread Ravi Kumar

hi friends

I am Ravi Kumar from Hyderabad, INDIA.

I have 2* 2610 routers with 2 port sync/async card, 1 port ISDN BRI card and 2
port FXS card installed in VM.

I am using these routers exclusively for my CCNP 2.0 training and
preparation.

I have DTE and DCE cables for two routers back to back connectivity to
simulate leased lines.
are there any cables with which I can simulate ISDN connectivity as well as
VoIP connectivity??

your help is highly apreciated in advance.

with regards
ravi kumar B.



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Upgrade Cisco 2600

2000-11-09 Thread Carmelo Garofalo

Hi Guys,
in my site there is a Cisco Router 2610 with the following hardware and
software configuration:

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-D-M), Version 12.0(5)T1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 17-Aug-99 13:11 by cmong

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

roma uptime is 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on at 10:44:34 UTC Fri Jan 7 2000
System image file is "flash:c2600-d-mz.120-5.T1"

cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 20480K/4096K bytes of
memory
.
Processor board ...
M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
2 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
4 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

The WIC ( 2 Serial Sync/Async) are busy for two sites, i must do  a new site
with a link at 2 Mbit. The configuration hardware ( 2 Low speed serial), of
course, don't support the new link.

With this architecture Can I  repalce the WIC Low Speed Serial with the
other WIC Serial (Sync/Async) at 2 Mbit?

Regards,

Carmelo


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about 3600 as voip gateway

2000-11-09 Thread Frank

as we know ,3620 has 2 NM slot ,3640 has 4 slots .
if i use NM-HDV-1E1-30E,how many such NM could each 3620 or  3640 support
at maximum?
and we also could use NM-HDV-2E1-60 .
Does the router have the capability limit to support NMs?
AS5300 could support 4 E1 at max.

Thanks .


frank


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telnet

2000-11-09 Thread Dennis Ighomereho

Hi,
Can anyone help on this.I do a VPN connection on a client machine on to my 
network.when the connection is established, I get assigned an IP 
address.Then I try to telnet unto my servers which refuse the connection.I 
have a firewall in between doing NAT.I can ping the firewall alright but 
cant telnet.
would be grateful if I can get any help.

cheers,
Dennis
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RE: password recovery on lightstream hyperswitch 100

2000-11-09 Thread Frank Z

   That's actually for a LS1010. The password recovery
on a LS100 is unbeliveably complicated. You have to
enter a very cryptic string from a hidden menu on the
LS100. I had to do it on mine, so you'll need to call
TAC and open a case to get this resolved. There is no,
"set the config register to o/r 0x142" or the like. I
wrote it down on top of my LS100, but it's at the
office and I don't want to give you one charachter off
of that string and lock up your 100. So, just give TAC
a call (provided you have any valid contract on Cisco
equipment) and they will get it straightened out.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Frank Zahrt, CCDP, CCNP(voice)
NEC Senior Network Engineer


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 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:07 PM
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 I acquired one of these switches and do not know the
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Re: Upgrade Cisco 2600

2000-11-09 Thread Dave . Craddock

Carmelo
 If you are using both serials. Are they in the expansion slot or in
the WAN slots. If you have a spare WAN slot you could use a WIC 2 T to give
you 2 high speed ports.

 How have you got the 4 ISDN ports into the router ?

Dave



   
   
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Hi Guys,
in my site there is a Cisco Router 2610 with the following hardware and
software configuration:

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-D-M), Version 12.0(5)T1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 17-Aug-99 13:11 by cmong

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

roma uptime is 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on at 10:44:34 UTC Fri Jan 7 2000
System image file is "flash:c2600-d-mz.120-5.T1"

cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 20480K/4096K bytes of
memory
.
Processor board ...
M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
2 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
4 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

The WIC ( 2 Serial Sync/Async) are busy for two sites, i must do  a new
site
with a link at 2 Mbit. The configuration hardware ( 2 Low speed serial), of
course, don't support the new link.

With this architecture Can I  repalce the WIC Low Speed Serial with the
other WIC Serial (Sync/Async) at 2 Mbit?

Regards,

Carmelo


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Colt test

2000-11-09 Thread Pieter Jordaan

Hi group

I am currently studying towards CCNA, How good are the colt tests for
determining my current level? If I passed the colt test do I have a shot at
the real thing?

all input valuable.

thanks

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Re: Voice for lab

2000-11-09 Thread Ed Moss

I believe you can get a 1750-2V (that supports one voice card) or a 1750-4V,
that supports tow voice cards.

Ed

"John Dill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 The least expensive way to go is get a 1750.  The 1750 uses the same
 personality (VIC = FXS, EM, FXO) cards as the 2600 and you do not need
the
 extra (expensive) voice processor card like the 2600.

 Careful.  The 1750 DOES require a voice processor card, a PVDM-4 will
provide DSP resources for one VIC card.  It lists for $400, and it is not
included in the base model.

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RE: telnet

2000-11-09 Thread Liwanag, Manolito

Dennis,


Can I assume that the servers that you are trying to access allow telnet
sessions ?  If  you are using a PIX firewall and an IRE client you might try
this:

telnet 10.127.6.5 255.255.254.0 inside
telnet timeout 5

where 10.127.6.5 is the PIX inside IP address.

it works in my lab.

rgds,
Manolito

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Subject: telnet


Hi,
Can anyone help on this.I do a VPN connection on a client machine on to my 
network.when the connection is established, I get assigned an IP 
address.Then I try to telnet unto my servers which refuse the connection.I 
have a firewall in between doing NAT.I can ping the firewall alright but 
cant telnet.
would be grateful if I can get any help.

cheers,
Dennis
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Re: ATM Question about LEC

2000-11-09 Thread Rodgers Moore

I'm no guru, but that's what I've seen when the LEC didn't or couldn't talk
to the LECS.  Usually, a config error, like a fat-fingered ATM address or
missing command on the LEC.

Rodgers Moore

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 Does anyone who is an ATM guru know why?

 LEC Client ID is unassigned.Why?

 Thanks,
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Re: pairgain T1

2000-11-09 Thread Rodgers Moore

It depends on the exact model, but in general NO.  Pairgain was never really
a CSU/DSU company, but rather a HDSL T1 repeater/extender company.  They did
make a few models that would take T1 on the network side, but I don't
remember if these had v.35 options on the DSU side.

Is this a two or a four wire version?  If it's a four wire, then it may be
possible.  You can always try it.  If it doesn't work, then do something
else.

Rodgers Moore

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 I have a Pairgain T1 campus with a DSX-1/v.35 interface.  Can this be used
 to attached to a T1?  Thanks for any input.

 -Frank


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4 books for $6 - check it out.

2000-11-09 Thread Nodir Nazarov

hello everyone !

Couldn't help - visit this site: you can get 3 books for 6 bucks and 1
additional for free. I still don't know what the catch is, but you can
get CCIE/CCDP study guides too. 4 decent study guides for 6 bucks - why
not ?? I ordered (didn't get yet).

http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?62204

note: I am no affiliated with zdnet at all.

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Re: Radius or Tacacs

2000-11-09 Thread Rodgers Moore

Brian,

How do you propose to configure the user id  password into the PIX?
There's no command to allow this.  So you won't be doing any authentication,
except the pre-shared key which is the same for everyone.  One password
between your LAN and the Internet.  Feel safe?

You could install Radius for NT, it comes on the Option Pack  4 CD and is
free.  It won't work without the radius/IIS service pack 6 and some other
upgrade (I forget the name).  Just be forwarned, with this software you get
"exactly" what you pay for.

Rodgers Moore

""Parris, Brian"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Could somebody please explain to me why I would want a Radius Server when
 authenticating a VPN client through my PIX on an NT Server network rather
 than just authenticating locally on the PIX.

 Also, what is the advantage of Tacacs and is there any software that can
 perform these duties for less than the $4000 that the Steel-Belted Radius
 and CiscoSecure ACS software cost.  I'm not going to have but a few users
 and can't justify these prices.

 TIA,
 Brian Parris
 Network Admin.
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Re: [Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?]

2000-11-09 Thread Jason A. Diegmueller

 Nooo.  To find CIR through Bandwith statement is not a right criteria becausee
 if we  are using IGRP/EIGRP , we need to play with Bandwidth statement to
 select primary  and secondary routes so we might need to change them different
 as Actual CIR,..

True, but "show frame map" IS the actual CIR as presented to your
equipment by the Frame Relay Switch.  That's the only point I was
making.

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Cisco Concentrator 3030

2000-11-09 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

I have 2 questions regarding win2000 client for
Concentrator 3030:

1. I tested win2000 client beta, everything works fine
except I can't browse the network neighbor. I can map
drive and use computer names to ping, telnet.

2. I tried to use Certificate service provided by
Windows 2000 server. After I submitted certificate
request, I can see it's pending on the server, but
when I check pending request on the client, it says no
pending. 

Any suggestion would be greately appreciated!!!

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Brian



Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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RE: Upgrade Cisco 2610

2000-11-09 Thread Carmelo Garofalo

Hi Sasa,
sorry , I would want to write, if i can replace the WIC Serial (Sync/Async),
with speed up to 128kb, with the WIC-2T interface.

In conclusion, is it possibile do I have a router with two WIC-2T in slots?
Please you answer me  .
Regards, 

Carmelo

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To: carmelo Garofalo
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carmelo Garofalo wrote:
 
 With this architecture Can I  repalce the WIC Low Speed Serial
 with the other WIC Serial (Sync/Async) at 2 Mbit?

There's no WIC sync/async for 2 Mbps. But, WIC-2T (two port, 2 Mbps
SYNC serial) with do the job.

Sasa

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Re: NT1 needed

2000-11-09 Thread Mike Momb

Brian,

I have seen this done where six ISDN phones were connected to a BRI but only two could 
be used at one time.   

Mike 

 John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09 5:34 AM 
On Feb 5,  4:46am, Brian wrote:
} 
} Does anyone know of an NT1 model that will allow the connection of 2 S/T
} interfaces (2 different routers) so that each can use a single chennel of
} the single ISDN line connected to it (like a splitter).

 The S/T bus is a parallel bus.  You can connect up to eight
devices to it (they are distinguished by their TEI -- Terminal Endpoint
Idenifier).  You don't need a special NT1, just a splitter which you
plug into any NT1.  I have seen eight-way splitters built just for this
purpose, but I don't know where to get them.

}-- End of excerpt from Brian

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Re: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

Your problem seems to be insufficient hardware.
Supernetting five subnets and putting 500 stations on one segement will
cripple your network.
Duck
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From: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:13 PM
Subject: Why not supernetting?


 Hi All,

 I am looking for advice on a LAN performance issue. i
 am running primarily NT4 and win2K boxes on a 100Mbit
 UTP Ethernet LAN.

 my servers are on static IPs on one subnet while my
 clients pick up DHCP addresses (assigned out of my
 control) in any one of half a dozen other subnets.
 file transfer and printing performance between client
 and server is averaging 1Mbit/sec when computers are
 in different subnets. switch the same two computers to
 static IPs in the same subnet and throughput jumps to
 a respectable 30-70Mbit/sec. i need to keep the
 clients on DHCP as i don't have enough static IPs to
 go around for the subnet the servers are in.

 all clients and servers are attached to one of 5
 Allied Telesyn 8126XL 24-port managed switches. all 5
 of these "edge" switches connect to another switch of
 the same model with a 100Mbit multi-mode (1300
 nanometer) fiber uplink which connects to a Cisco
 Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs.

 When the clients are on different subnets the file
 transfers appear to take a long trip through the
 router with a huge performance penalty (1Mbit/sec).
 when the client and server are on the same subnet the
 packets do NOT appear to be routed (perhaps they are
 handled using ARP?) and the performance is very good.
 ping response times on both switches and routers is
 under 20ms. This is where I believe supernetting could
 be a solution to this slowness, because I think
 supernetting allows me to put all stations in the same
 subnet, witch avoids routing needs.

 I got some responses to my previous post from people
 saying that supernetting would slow down the speed
 because there would be too many stations in big
 broadcast domain, which contradicts what I am willing
 to do.

 Am i missing some key concepts here that might improve
 my understanding of this tragic performance?


 any help would be greatly appreciated.

 take care,

 jw


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Off Topic ***********Please Help Nortell**

2000-11-09 Thread J K

HEllo
At my business we have a  Nortel Accellar 1100 , one question i have is how 
to redistribute static routes via OSPF. I could not find this info in my 
notes and I'm not even sure if it is possible. Please let me know how this 
could be accomplished !!


Thanks

Jim Koniecki
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RE: 4 books for $6 - check it out.

2000-11-09 Thread Nodir Nazarov


Well, like in any club ;) Since I buy about 1-2 computer book a month
anyway, I found it as a good deal. You're right, if you don't plan to get
books later on - it's just not worth it. Terms  Conditions don't specify
how long you are obligated to be in the "club"..

Thanks for comments !

Nodir


On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Carl Mirsky wrote:

 Here is the catch. Basically you will get a book in the mail every so often,
 and get billed for it including S/H.  I had joined a CD club a couple of
 years back with the "free" CD's.  Well, the S/H was billed for EACH CD and
 was almost as much as the CD's would have cost me in the store, and they
 will keep coming.  You will need to notify them EACH AND EVERY TIME that you
 don't want their "featured selection".  Is it a good deal?  Maybe.  Depends
 on how much you think you will be saving. I can guarantee you that their
 "featured selection" will most likely not be what you are interested in.
 IMNSHO.
 
 How does the club work?
 You'll receive our free club magazine about every 3 weeks, up to 18 times a
 year, featuring a Main Selection for the club along with a dated reply card.
 Choose from the current Main and Alternate Selections, or from a selection
 of recently offered titles.
 NOTE:-- If you want the Main Selection, do nothing, and it will be sent to
 you automatically. If you prefer another selection, or no book at all,
 simply indicate your choice on the dated reply card included in the
 Announcement and return it by the date specified. You can do it through the
 mail, or right here, online! A shipping-and-handling charge (and sales tax,
 where applicable) is added to each shipment. --: END NOTE
 
 Carl Mirsky
 CCNP, MCSE, SCSA
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Nodir Nazarov
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:43 AM
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 Subject: 4 books for $6 - check it out.
 
 
 hello everyone !
 
 Couldn't help - visit this site: you can get 3 books for 6 bucks and 1
 additional for free. I still don't know what the catch is, but you can
 get CCIE/CCDP study guides too. 4 decent study guides for 6 bucks - why
 not ?? I ordered (didn't get yet).
 
 http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?62204
 
 note: I am no affiliated with zdnet at all.
 
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RE: After supernetting!!

2000-11-09 Thread Chuck Larrieu

If we look at this question in terms of moving the network mask to the left
or to the right, all of these terms come into perspective.

Take the mask ...

Ones indicate the network portion. Zeros indicate the host portion.

If we shrink ( move to the left ) the zeros, we are, depending upon the
context, summarizing, supernetting, aggregating.

If we expand ( move to the right ) the ones, we are subnetting. If we start
with the same network mask, and expand the ones differently for several
different subnets, we are variably subnetting, or using VLSM.

I think it is more useful to understand what is happening at the bit level
than to worry about terminology that is admittedly used sloppily in the
various study materials we use.

Chuck


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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Donald B Johnson Jr
Sent:   Thursday, November 09, 2000 5:15 PM
To: Brian; jeongwoo park
Cc: Groupstudy
Subject:Re: After supernetting!!

I thought supernetting was combining several small networks into one big
one, the opposite of subnetting which takes one big network and breaks it
into smaller ones.
Summarizing is a technique where you combine several larger perfixs into one
smaller prefix that includes the larger perfixs and then advertise the
smaller prefix in routing updates. This technique reduces routing table
entries.
Aggregation and VLSM are different too. These terms are not interchangable.
You should really have a clear understanding of these concepts for the big
one.
Duck
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: After supernetting!!


On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, jeongwoo park wrote:

 Hi all
 Let's say there are 5 subnets (Class B/16 subnet mask)
 consisting of approximately 500 DHCP clients and 20
 servers.
 Someone as a Network Expert suggested flattening the
 network. As a Network newbie, I simply followed the
 instruction from the book on how to supernet, and
 finally summarized those 5 contiguous subnets into
 following address: 123.80.0.0/14 (**this is a made-up
 number) Now I am done with supernetting. What is the
 next to be done?
 What should I do with this ip address?
 Should I go to physically to these 520 stations one by
 one for new tcp/ip setup? I think there should be
 better way than this.

Supernetting, summarizing, whatever you want to call it, at aggregation
points within your network is a great idea, so yes I agree that somewhere
in your network you should try to aggregate routes as much as possible.

Flattening a /14 worth of space and giving users a 255.252.0.0 netmask on
their desktops sounds more like "Super-kludging" than "supernetting" :)

Why would you have 520 stations consuming a /14 worth of space anyways?

Brian



 Looking for your help.

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RE: 4 books for $6 - check it out.

2000-11-09 Thread Carl Mirsky

Here is the catch. Basically you will get a book in the mail every so often,
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Re: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Frank Wells

Try it.


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Subject: token ring question
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 08:34:34 -0600 (CST)



Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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RE: isdn question

2000-11-09 Thread Brian

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Sebastien Venturoso wrote:

 What about put a dialer map in Router B without a number to call ?
 
 That should work.

I don't believe thats valid is it?

Brian


 
 Regards,
 Sebastien.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Brian
 Sent: 09 November 2000 07:54
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: isdn question
 
 
 
 I am trying to setup an isdn scenerio, where routerA has 1 B channel, and
 routerB has 1 B channel.  routerA calls routerB, and then traffic
 bi-directionally flows over the single B channel.
 
 What i am running into though, is if I leave the dialer map off routerB,
 then it complains "no dialer string" for the return path packets.  If I
 put the dialer map in place, it complains "no channel available" (because
 its "busy" since its already connected from answering routerA's call).
 
 So my question is, how do you get the traffic to flow bi-directional over
 a single channel, so that routerB needs no dialer map.
 
 routerA
 ===
 interface BRI0
  ip address 212.1.22.146 255.255.255.240
  encapsulation ppp
  bandwidth 128
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 10
  dialer map ip 212.1.22.145 6711173
  dialer-group 1
  isdn spid1 31867111720101
 
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 212.1.22.145
 
 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
 
 routerB
 ===
 interface BRI0
  ip address 212.1.22.145 255.255.255.240
  encapsulation ppp
  bandwidth 128
  isdn spid1 31867111730101
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 10
  dialer-group 1
 
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 212.1.22.146
 
 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
 
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
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RE: pairgain T1

2000-11-09 Thread dwhitley
Title: RE: pairgain T1





Check out the following http://www.pairgain.com/PRODUCTS/enterprise_lan/cmpscsu.asp 
In my experience if you have a DSX-1 interface it will connect to a T1.
The main difference being the signal amplitude the DS1 will go up to 6k and the DSX1 will go up to 655ft 



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It depends on the exact model, but in general NO. Pairgain was never really
a CSU/DSU company, but rather a HDSL T1 repeater/extender company. They did
make a few models that would take T1 on the network side, but I don't
remember if these had v.35 options on the DSU side.


Is this a two or a four wire version? If it's a four wire, then it may be
possible. You can always try it. If it doesn't work, then do something
else.


Rodgers Moore


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Re: Routing protocol

2000-11-09 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

I dont think the original question made any sense.
Duck
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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lawrence sculark [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Routing protocol


 A bunch of different concepts are getting mixed up in this discussion.
 Here's a quick note to clear the air.

 A routing protocol learns the path(s) to remote networks. Examples are
 OSPF, RIP, EIGRP, BGP, RTMP, AURP, Novell RIP and NLSP, etc.

 EIGRP is a routing protocol that can handle routing for IP, AppleTalk, and
 IPX. That makes it unique. It has a routing engine that can be used by
each
 of these protocol suites, as well as separate mechanisms to deal with
 unique issues for each suite.

 This multiprotocol feature of EIGRP has nothing to do with redistribution.
 Redistribution is the process whereby a routing protocol can learn routes
 from some other routing protocol. For example, you can redistribute RIP
 routes into OSPF.

 I don't know if this is what the responder had in mind, but by default,
the
 Cisco IOS software redistributes AppleTalk RTMP routes into AppleTalk
 EIGRP, and vice versa. By default, the Cisco IOS software redistributes
IPX
 RIP routes into EIGRP, and vice versa. These are nice features for
 companies that still run RTMP and IPX RIP on their LANs but have migrated
 to the more efficient EIGRP on WANs.

 Cisco made up the silly term "routed protocol," and they use it somewhat
 inconsistently. But in general, it means the network-layer protocol that
 carries the payload that gets routed through the network. Examples include
 IP, DDP, IPX, etc.

 A router has two jobs:

 1) Participating in a routing protocol to learn paths
 2) Forwarding routed traffic (This is sometimes called switching, just to
 confuse matters)

 OK, that's enough for now.

 Priscilla


 At 03:08 PM 11/8/00, lawrence sculark wrote:
 look up "redistribution"..it will set you on the right path...lawrence
 
 
 From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Routing protocol
 
 I don't think this make sense.
 Routing protocols are used to maintain routing tables.
 Routed protocols are used for addressing and accessing stations on a
network.
 The process of routing is the ability of a router being able to receive
a
 packet, check the destination in the packet, look for a destination
 network in the route table and switch the packet to the appropriate
 interface that can reach the destination network.
 So routing is the process of:
 1. declaring a destination
 2. finding the destinaton
 3. switching the packet to an interface on the path to the destination.
 Many protocols are involved in this process from ARP to BGP or anything
 in between.
 Duck
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Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other
  protocols
Is it EIGRP or BGP
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Help for study purpose

2000-11-09 Thread Francis Kola Eludini

I am new to cisco and just started reading for the CCNA Exam.
I am having one 2501 CISCO Router and I will like to make use of the aux 
port connected to a modem
to dial to the internet. I tried to configure the aux line usin "line aux 
0" but was unable to configure PPP
with this interface.
My IOS Ver is 11.0.
Any hint on how to o this shall be higly appreciated.
Francis

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Re: NT1 needed

2000-11-09 Thread John Nemeth

On Apr 1,  3:29am, "Mike Momb" wrote:
} 
} I have seen this done where six ISDN phones were connected to a BRI but only two 
could be used at one time.   

 Yes, that is because there are only two B channels.

}  John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09 5:34 AM 
} On Feb 5,  4:46am, Brian wrote:
} } 
} } Does anyone know of an NT1 model that will allow the connection of 2 S/T
} } interfaces (2 different routers) so that each can use a single chennel of
} } the single ISDN line connected to it (like a splitter).
} 
}  The S/T bus is a parallel bus.  You can connect up to eight
} devices to it (they are distinguished by their TEI -- Terminal Endpoint
} Idenifier).  You don't need a special NT1, just a splitter which you
} plug into any NT1.  I have seen eight-way splitters built just for this
} purpose, but I don't know where to get them.
} 
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RE: NT1 needed

2000-11-09 Thread Daniel Cotts

http://www.nt1solutions.com/ makes NT-1 devices and splitters.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Momb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NT1 needed
 
 
 Brian,
 
 I have seen this done where six ISDN phones were connected to 
 a BRI but only two could be used at one time.   
 
 Mike 
 
  John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09 5:34 AM 
 On Feb 5,  4:46am, Brian wrote:
 } 
 } Does anyone know of an NT1 model that will allow the 
 connection of 2 S/T
 } interfaces (2 different routers) so that each can use a 
 single chennel of
 } the single ISDN line connected to it (like a splitter).
 
  The S/T bus is a parallel bus.  You can connect up to eight
 devices to it (they are distinguished by their TEI -- 
 Terminal Endpoint
 Idenifier).  You don't need a special NT1, just a splitter which you
 plug into any NT1.  I have seen eight-way splitters built 
 just for this
 purpose, but I don't know where to get them.
 
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Re: Boson CCIE Written Practice test

2000-11-09 Thread John Swartz


Boson is completely rewriting CCIE #1 and CCIE #2.

We will be releasing it shortly.



John Swartz
CCIE, MCSD, MCSE+I, CNE
Boson Software http://www.boson.com
We are looking for practice test authors.

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 Jeff,

 I just passed 350-001 on Nov 1 and I ordered the BOSON test around Oct 29.
 I have done allot of study with written materials and OJT, but it did help
 me pass the written.  I'm not sure I could quantify how much, although one
 question could be the difference  between passing and failing.  My feeling
 is that $30.00 is cheaper that paying $200.00 twice.


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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread NP-BASS LEON

NOT IN THIS LIFE TIME
Even if you plug two 2500 into the same MAU, the MAU cannot be divided, it's
basically too dumb. Even if you don't use IP, the MAU will see both ring
addresses on the same segment, which will create a problem.

You will have to have a Smart Device, that is the only way you will get away
with plugging two routers into the same TokenRing device. Madge makes one,
but it's a switch not a MAU, a SmartRing Switch to be exact. 

-Original Message-
From: Frank Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: token ring question


Try it.


From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: token ring question
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 08:34:34 -0600 (CST)



Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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Re: Upgrade Cisco 2610

2000-11-09 Thread Saša Milic

Carmelo Garofalo wrote:
 
 sorry , I would want to write, if i can replace the WIC Serial
 (Sync/Async), with speed up to 128kb, with the WIC-2T interface.

Yes, but keep in mind that you cannot connect async line to WIC-2T.

 In conclusion, is it possibile do I have a router with two WIC-2T in slots?

Sure. No problems.

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Re: Routing protocol

2000-11-09 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

You can redistribute static routes, which protocol do static routes use
Duck
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Subject: Re: Routing protocol


 look up "redistribution"..it will set you on the right path...lawrence


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 I don't think this make sense.
 Routing protocols are used to maintain routing tables.
 Routed protocols are used for addressing and accessing stations on a
 network.
 The process of routing is the ability of a router being able to receive a
 packet, check the destination in the packet, look for a destination
network
 in the route table and switch the packet to the appropriate interface
that
 can reach the destination network.
 So routing is the process of:
 1. declaring a destination
 2. finding the destinaton
 3. switching the packet to an interface on the path to the destination.
 Many protocols are involved in this process from ARP to BGP or anything
in
 between.
 Duck
AVI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other
 protocols
Is it EIGRP or BGP
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Re: Upgrade Cisco 2610

2000-11-09 Thread Saša Milic

carmelo Garofalo wrote:
 
 With this architecture Can I  repalce the WIC Low Speed Serial
 with the other WIC Serial (Sync/Async) at 2 Mbit?

There's no WIC sync/async for 2 Mbps. But, WIC-2T (two port, 2 Mbps
SYNC serial) with do the job.

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Help for study purpose

2000-11-09 Thread Dr. Francis Kola Eludini

I am new to cisco and just started reading for the CCNA Exam.
I am having one 2501 CISCO Router and I will like to make use of the aux 
port connected to a modem
to dial to the internet. I tried to configure the aux line usin "line aux 
0" but was unable to configure PPP
with this interface.
My IOS Ver is 11.0.
Any hint on how to do this shall be higly appreciated.
Francis 

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Re: Upgrade Cisco 2600

2000-11-09 Thread Saša Milic

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Carmelo
  If you are using both serials. Are they in the expansion slot or in
 the WAN slots. If you have a spare WAN slot you could use a WIC 2 T to give
 you 2 high speed ports.
 
  How have you got the 4 ISDN ports into the router ?

He got it with 4 port ISDN-BRI network module (NM-4B-...)

NM-4B-S/T4-Port ISDN-BRI Network Module
NM-4B-S/T=   4-Port ISDN-BRI Network Module
NM-4B-U  4-Port ISDN-BRI with NT-1 Network Module
NM-4B-U= 4-Port ISDN-BRI with NT-1 Network Module

Sasa



 
 Dave
 
 
 Carmelo Garofalo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 a.sas.com  cc:
 Sent by:Subject: Upgrade Cisco 2600
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 m
 
 
 11/09/2000 11:14
 Please respond to
 Carmelo Garofalo
 
 
 
 Hi Guys,
 in my site there is a Cisco Router 2610 with the following hardware and
 software configuration:
 
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-D-M), Version 12.0(5)T1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Tue 17-Aug-99 13:11 by cmong
 
 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
 roma uptime is 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes
 System returned to ROM by power-on at 10:44:34 UTC Fri Jan 7 2000
 System image file is "flash:c2600-d-mz.120-5.T1"
 
 cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 20480K/4096K bytes of
 memory
 .
 Processor board ...
 M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
 2 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
 4 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
 
 Configuration register is 0x2102
 
 The WIC ( 2 Serial Sync/Async) are busy for two sites, i must do  a new
 site
 with a link at 2 Mbit. The configuration hardware ( 2 Low speed serial), of
 course, don't support the new link.
 
 With this architecture Can I  repalce the WIC Low Speed Serial with the
 other WIC Serial (Sync/Async) at 2 Mbit?
 
 Regards,
 
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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Hennen, David

yes you can, as far as having two IP or IPX ranges running on a single mau.
You can't mix ring speeds however.

daveh

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Subject: token ring question




Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

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RE: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Just to be argumentative, it is not necessarily true that 500 hosts on a
single network / wire will result in a crippled network. As always, it is
the usage that will determine the result.

I once interviewed with a very large bank. The network team there was
required to have extensive protocol analysis expertise because, in the words
of the interviewer, we have very large segments, and we want to eliminate
problems as son as we hear about them. He told me they had as many as 1200
machines on a subnet! Obviously, in most circumstances, the network
folks believed that performance was satisfactory. They did apparently spent
a lot of time tracking down misbehaving NIC's :-

Cisco's published recommendations about maximum hosts on a subnet /
broadcast domain are general recommendations. I suggest that if you have
folks doing extensive sharing of Autocad files, or extensive desktop video
conferencing, or extensive VoIP, even the Cisco recommendations may be too
large for reliable LAN performance. On the other hand, if all you are doing
is SNA emulation. 500 may not be bad at all.

Chuck

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Donald B Johnson Jr
Sent:   Friday, November 10, 2000 9:00 AM
To: jeongwoo park; Groupstudy
Subject:Re: Why not supernetting?

Your problem seems to be insufficient hardware.
Supernetting five subnets and putting 500 stations on one segement will
cripple your network.
Duck
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From: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:13 PM
Subject: Why not supernetting?


 Hi All,

 I am looking for advice on a LAN performance issue. i
 am running primarily NT4 and win2K boxes on a 100Mbit
 UTP Ethernet LAN.

 my servers are on static IPs on one subnet while my
 clients pick up DHCP addresses (assigned out of my
 control) in any one of half a dozen other subnets.
 file transfer and printing performance between client
 and server is averaging 1Mbit/sec when computers are
 in different subnets. switch the same two computers to
 static IPs in the same subnet and throughput jumps to
 a respectable 30-70Mbit/sec. i need to keep the
 clients on DHCP as i don't have enough static IPs to
 go around for the subnet the servers are in.

 all clients and servers are attached to one of 5
 Allied Telesyn 8126XL 24-port managed switches. all 5
 of these "edge" switches connect to another switch of
 the same model with a 100Mbit multi-mode (1300
 nanometer) fiber uplink which connects to a Cisco
 Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs.

 When the clients are on different subnets the file
 transfers appear to take a long trip through the
 router with a huge performance penalty (1Mbit/sec).
 when the client and server are on the same subnet the
 packets do NOT appear to be routed (perhaps they are
 handled using ARP?) and the performance is very good.
 ping response times on both switches and routers is
 under 20ms. This is where I believe supernetting could
 be a solution to this slowness, because I think
 supernetting allows me to put all stations in the same
 subnet, witch avoids routing needs.

 I got some responses to my previous post from people
 saying that supernetting would slow down the speed
 because there would be too many stations in big
 broadcast domain, which contradicts what I am willing
 to do.

 Am i missing some key concepts here that might improve
 my understanding of this tragic performance?


 any help would be greatly appreciated.

 take care,

 jw


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PIX Logging Tool

2000-11-09 Thread Frei, Henrik

Hi,

is there a free tool for generating reports from PIX syslog-output ?

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RE: Help for study purpose

2000-11-09 Thread Daniel Cotts

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/123/4.html

http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/technotes/tech_features.shtml
This should be the first place that you look.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12supdoc/dsq
cg3/qcpppara.htm  Might be useful.

Consider buying the BCRAN, Building Cisco Remote Access Networks, book from
Cisco Press.

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 Subject: Help for study purpose
 
 
 I am new to cisco and just started reading for the CCNA Exam.
 I am having one 2501 CISCO Router and I will like to make use 
 of the aux 
 port connected to a modem
 to dial to the internet. I tried to configure the aux line 
 usin "line aux 
 0" but was unable to configure PPP
 with this interface.
 My IOS Ver is 11.0.
 Any hint on how to o this shall be higly appreciated.
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RE: Get Paid To Read Email!

2000-11-09 Thread Carl Mirsky

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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Brian

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, NP-BASS LEON wrote:

 NOT IN THIS LIFE TIME
 Even if you plug two 2500 into the same MAU, the MAU cannot be divided, it's
 basically too dumb. Even if you don't use IP, the MAU will see both ring
 addresses on the same segment, which will create a problem.

thats what I thought.

 
 You will have to have a Smart Device, that is the only way you will get away
 with plugging two routers into the same TokenRing device. Madge makes one,
 but it's a switch not a MAU, a SmartRing Switch to be exact. 

nod, thanks for confirming.

Brian


 
 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:21 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: token ring question
 
 
 Try it.
 
 
 From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: token ring question
 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 08:34:34 -0600 (CST)
 
 
 
 Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
 2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
 need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?
 
 Brian
 
 
 
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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread NP-BASS LEON

HOW
I would really like to know this one.
If I heard it correct Brian mentioned that he had a dumb MAU, so that MAU
looks at that entire box as being one network segment, so how do you place
two router interfaces with two different IP or IPX addresses on the same
segment??? IP will detect the conflict and IPX will beacon.

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:03 PM
To: 'Brian'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: token ring question


yes you can, as far as having two IP or IPX ranges running on a single mau.
You can't mix ring speeds however.

daveh

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: token ring question




Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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RE: 4 books for $6 - check it out.

2000-11-09 Thread McMasters,Eric

I was a member of this club and I think it was a pretty good deal.  You only
had to buy one or two more books at regular club prices and then your
obligation was over.  Also, every time you signed someone up under you they
got the discounted books and they you could pick up to $120 or 3 books for
free (minus SH).  Their prices are cheaper than most on-line book stores,
you don't need a credit card to pay or sign-up.  They are slow (3-4 weeks)
when delivering, but I think it's worth it for the price you pay for the
books.  As far as the monthly book card that comes, you can decline the book
on the website and you can actually decline 3-4 months in advance.  I'm not
a member anymore, since it has been awhile since I ordered a book, but for
someone who wants to start building a library then this is a good way to
start without making a significant investment.  In my particular case I
received around 15 books for the $9.99 you pay for the initial set, and then
buy getting some friends to sign up.  I bough a couple of books at member
prices and then I was finished, and SH wasn't that bad.  If I remember
correctly SH was usually less than $20 for 2-3 books.  Now you add that to
the $9.99 you paid and you couldn't get one of those books for that price.
Just my $.02.  Hope this clarifies some of it for everyone.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Nodir Nazarov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 10:40 AM
To: Carl Mirsky
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, like in any club ;) Since I buy about 1-2 computer book a month
anyway, I found it as a good deal. You're right, if you don't plan to get
books later on - it's just not worth it. Terms  Conditions don't specify
how long you are obligated to be in the "club"..

Thanks for comments !

Nodir


On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Carl Mirsky wrote:

 Here is the catch. Basically you will get a book in the mail every so
often,
 and get billed for it including S/H.  I had joined a CD club a couple of
 years back with the "free" CD's.  Well, the S/H was billed for EACH CD and
 was almost as much as the CD's would have cost me in the store, and they
 will keep coming.  You will need to notify them EACH AND EVERY TIME that
you
 don't want their "featured selection".  Is it a good deal?  Maybe.
Depends
 on how much you think you will be saving. I can guarantee you that their
 "featured selection" will most likely not be what you are interested in.
 IMNSHO.
 
 How does the club work?
 You'll receive our free club magazine about every 3 weeks, up to 18 times
a
 year, featuring a Main Selection for the club along with a dated reply
card.
 Choose from the current Main and Alternate Selections, or from a selection
 of recently offered titles.
 NOTE:-- If you want the Main Selection, do nothing, and it will be sent
to
 you automatically. If you prefer another selection, or no book at all,
 simply indicate your choice on the dated reply card included in the
 Announcement and return it by the date specified. You can do it through
the
 mail, or right here, online! A shipping-and-handling charge (and sales
tax,
 where applicable) is added to each shipment. --: END NOTE
 
 Carl Mirsky
 CCNP, MCSE, SCSA
 
 
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 Nodir Nazarov
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:43 AM
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 Subject: 4 books for $6 - check it out.
 
 
 hello everyone !
 
 Couldn't help - visit this site: you can get 3 books for 6 bucks and 1
 additional for free. I still don't know what the catch is, but you can
 get CCIE/CCDP study guides too. 4 decent study guides for 6 bucks - why
 not ?? I ordered (didn't get yet).
 
 http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?62204
 
 note: I am no affiliated with zdnet at all.
 
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RE: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Quadri, Habeeb

I second your arguments, Chuck. I worked on a scenario with varying subnet
sizes
due to some inherent limitations on how robots  PLC's work (no default
gateways). I had subnets 
of size 1024 with 500 machines on each subnet. PC traffic is difficult to
predict because of human users but machines are predictible. 

Habeeb

 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Larrieu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:47 AM
 To:   Donald B Johnson Jr; jeongwoo park; Groupstudy
 Subject:  RE: Why not supernetting?
 
 Just to be argumentative, it is not necessarily true that 500 hosts on a
 single network / wire will result in a crippled network. As always, it is
 the usage that will determine the result.
 
 I once interviewed with a very large bank. The network team there was
 required to have extensive protocol analysis expertise because, in the
 words
 of the interviewer, we have very large segments, and we want to eliminate
 problems as son as we hear about them. He told me they had as many as 1200
 machines on a subnet! Obviously, in most circumstances, the network
 folks believed that performance was satisfactory. They did apparently
 spent
 a lot of time tracking down misbehaving NIC's :-
 
 Cisco's published recommendations about maximum hosts on a subnet /
 broadcast domain are general recommendations. I suggest that if you have
 folks doing extensive sharing of Autocad files, or extensive desktop video
 conferencing, or extensive VoIP, even the Cisco recommendations may be too
 large for reliable LAN performance. On the other hand, if all you are
 doing
 is SNA emulation. 500 may not be bad at all.
 
 Chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Donald B Johnson Jr
 Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:00 AM
 To:   jeongwoo park; Groupstudy
 Subject:  Re: Why not supernetting?
 
 Your problem seems to be insufficient hardware.
 Supernetting five subnets and putting 500 stations on one segement will
 cripple your network.
 Duck
 - Original Message -
 From: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:13 PM
 Subject: Why not supernetting?
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  I am looking for advice on a LAN performance issue. i
  am running primarily NT4 and win2K boxes on a 100Mbit
  UTP Ethernet LAN.
 
  my servers are on static IPs on one subnet while my
  clients pick up DHCP addresses (assigned out of my
  control) in any one of half a dozen other subnets.
  file transfer and printing performance between client
  and server is averaging 1Mbit/sec when computers are
  in different subnets. switch the same two computers to
  static IPs in the same subnet and throughput jumps to
  a respectable 30-70Mbit/sec. i need to keep the
  clients on DHCP as i don't have enough static IPs to
  go around for the subnet the servers are in.
 
  all clients and servers are attached to one of 5
  Allied Telesyn 8126XL 24-port managed switches. all 5
  of these "edge" switches connect to another switch of
  the same model with a 100Mbit multi-mode (1300
  nanometer) fiber uplink which connects to a Cisco
  Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs.
 
  When the clients are on different subnets the file
  transfers appear to take a long trip through the
  router with a huge performance penalty (1Mbit/sec).
  when the client and server are on the same subnet the
  packets do NOT appear to be routed (perhaps they are
  handled using ARP?) and the performance is very good.
  ping response times on both switches and routers is
  under 20ms. This is where I believe supernetting could
  be a solution to this slowness, because I think
  supernetting allows me to put all stations in the same
  subnet, witch avoids routing needs.
 
  I got some responses to my previous post from people
  saying that supernetting would slow down the speed
  because there would be too many stations in big
  broadcast domain, which contradicts what I am willing
  to do.
 
  Am i missing some key concepts here that might improve
  my understanding of this tragic performance?
 
 
  any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
  take care,
 
  jw
 
 
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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Hennen, David

I have seen two ip ranges running on a single IBM 8228 mau (you can't get
much dumber than that), and I have seen two IP ranges running on a single
dumb ethernet hub.  The secondary address command allows you to do that with
one interface.  As far as IPX, I'm not as familiar with that but I don't see
why it would be different.

What you will see if you do a debug is lots of messages about things arping
on the wrong subnet, but things will work.

The original post said multiple rings, which is maybe where I'm going wrong
with regard to bridging.  But if you have two router interfaces with
different network addresses and put them into different bridge groups why
would that be a problem.

daveh

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:43 PM
To: 'Hennen, David'; 'Brian'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: token ring question


HOW
I would really like to know this one.
If I heard it correct Brian mentioned that he had a dumb MAU, so that MAU
looks at that entire box as being one network segment, so how do you place
two router interfaces with two different IP or IPX addresses on the same
segment??? IP will detect the conflict and IPX will beacon.

-Original Message-
From: Hennen, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:03 PM
To: 'Brian'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: token ring question


yes you can, as far as having two IP or IPX ranges running on a single mau.
You can't mix ring speeds however.

daveh

-Original Message-
From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: token ring question




Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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RE: 4 books for $6 - check it out.

2000-11-09 Thread Carl Mirsky

Thanks for the clarification.

Carl Mirsky
CCNP, MCSE, SCSA

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:04 PM
To: 'Nodir Nazarov'; Carl Mirsky
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Subject: RE: 4 books for $6 - check it out.


I was a member of this club and I think it was a pretty good deal.  You only
had to buy one or two more books at regular club prices and then your
obligation was over.  Also, every time you signed someone up under you they
got the discounted books and they you could pick up to $120 or 3 books for
free (minus SH).  Their prices are cheaper than most on-line book stores,
you don't need a credit card to pay or sign-up.  They are slow (3-4 weeks)
when delivering, but I think it's worth it for the price you pay for the
books.  As far as the monthly book card that comes, you can decline the book
on the website and you can actually decline 3-4 months in advance.  I'm not
a member anymore, since it has been awhile since I ordered a book, but for
someone who wants to start building a library then this is a good way to
start without making a significant investment.  In my particular case I
received around 15 books for the $9.99 you pay for the initial set, and then
buy getting some friends to sign up.  I bough a couple of books at member
prices and then I was finished, and SH wasn't that bad.  If I remember
correctly SH was usually less than $20 for 2-3 books.  Now you add that to
the $9.99 you paid and you couldn't get one of those books for that price.
Just my $.02.  Hope this clarifies some of it for everyone.

Eric

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 10:40 AM
To: Carl Mirsky
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Well, like in any club ;) Since I buy about 1-2 computer book a month
anyway, I found it as a good deal. You're right, if you don't plan to get
books later on - it's just not worth it. Terms  Conditions don't specify
how long you are obligated to be in the "club"..

Thanks for comments !

Nodir


On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Carl Mirsky wrote:

 Here is the catch. Basically you will get a book in the mail every so
often,
 and get billed for it including S/H.  I had joined a CD club a couple of
 years back with the "free" CD's.  Well, the S/H was billed for EACH CD and
 was almost as much as the CD's would have cost me in the store, and they
 will keep coming.  You will need to notify them EACH AND EVERY TIME that
you
 don't want their "featured selection".  Is it a good deal?  Maybe.
Depends
 on how much you think you will be saving. I can guarantee you that their
 "featured selection" will most likely not be what you are interested in.
 IMNSHO.

 How does the club work?
 You'll receive our free club magazine about every 3 weeks, up to 18 times
a
 year, featuring a Main Selection for the club along with a dated reply
card.
 Choose from the current Main and Alternate Selections, or from a selection
 of recently offered titles.
 NOTE:-- If you want the Main Selection, do nothing, and it will be sent
to
 you automatically. If you prefer another selection, or no book at all,
 simply indicate your choice on the dated reply card included in the
 Announcement and return it by the date specified. You can do it through
the
 mail, or right here, online! A shipping-and-handling charge (and sales
tax,
 where applicable) is added to each shipment. --: END NOTE

 Carl Mirsky
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 hello everyone !

 Couldn't help - visit this site: you can get 3 books for 6 bucks and 1
 additional for free. I still don't know what the catch is, but you can
 get CCIE/CCDP study guides too. 4 decent study guides for 6 bucks - why
 not ?? I ordered (didn't get yet).

 http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?62204

 note: I am no affiliated with zdnet at all.

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OSPF Area virtual links

2000-11-09 Thread Keith Townsend

When creating a virtual link between an ABR non-directly connected are to an
ABR in the backbone should you always use the loopback address for the
virtual link.  Doyle does this on page 943 of his Routing TCP/IP book.
Secondly is there a route to the loopback of these two routers.  Maybe I'm
forgetting something but how do the two routers find routes to each other if
you're not advertising L0 and there is no static routes to the L0.

Thanks,

Keith


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MCNS 1.0 2.0

2000-11-09 Thread Alfred



Don't know if this has been asked already 
Is there a difference between the 1.0 and the 2.0 exam I am currently 
studying for theMCNS 2.0 exam and am using the test objectives that are from the 
1.0 exam I wonder if this is accurate. I know there isn't an 
exam objective for the MCNS 2.0 or maybe someone found it... I would appreciate 
any help on this Thanks.
Alfred
p.s. someone mentioned before that the CCIE 
security recert exam objective would be a good guide to follow for the mcns 
exam.. any thoughts? thanks again.


Re: Help for study purpose

2000-11-09 Thread michael owuor

Dr,
My first suggestion would be to upgrade the code on your router so that 
you're running a newer code than 11.0. You'll find that ppp debugs are a lot 
easier to read in 11.3 and higher, and that you have a lot more 
functionality available to you.

The configuration of a modem on the AUX port isn't  too difficult, and you 
shouldn't have too much of a problem if you have the cabling right, a good 
modem (my preference is USR Sportster), and the correct configuration.

Configure the modem with an appropriate initialization string (get this from 
the modem manufacturer) using the everse telnet procedure s outlined here; 
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/76/9.html

The line aux 0 is the physical port, and will not take any ppp commands. The 
logical configuration goes on the logical interface (async interface) which 
you will ned to create. To create an async interface that corresponds to the 
AUX port, type in 'show line' at the exec prompt. The number that precedes 
the word AUX in this output is what you use for the async interface. So for 
example, if that number is "1", your configuration would look somehing like 
this:


!
hostname Router
enable pasword cisco
!
chat-script test "" "atdt\T" TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT \c
!
Interface async 1
ip address negotiated
encapsulation ppp
dialer in-band
dialer-group 1
dialer idle-timeout 300
dialer string 5123245
async default routing
async mode interactive
ppp authenication chap pap callin
ppp chap hostname MyUsername
ppp chap password MyPassword
ppp pap sent-username MyUsername password Mypassword
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
line aux 0
modem inout
flowcontrol harware
transport input all
speed 115200
script dialer test
!

You can find lots of information on this and other configs on CCO if you 
know your way around it.A good place to start is the Dial Access 
Configuration Cookbook

  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/793/access_dial/index.html

Good luck on your CCNA!!

Michael A





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Subject: Help for study purpose
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:20:54 +0200

I am new to cisco and just started reading for the CCNA Exam.
I am having one 2501 CISCO Router and I will like to make use of the aux
port connected to a modem
to dial to the internet. I tried to configure the aux line usin "line aux
0" but was unable to configure PPP
with this interface.
My IOS Ver is 11.0.
Any hint on how to do this shall be higly appreciated.
Francis

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RE: Anybody else take the CCIE Security beta test?

2000-11-09 Thread Chuck Larrieu

There have been at least two reports on group study over the last couple of
weeks. I wrote one of them. Rodgers Moore wrote another.

You should be able to find them in the recent archives.

Both of us agreed that the blueprint Cisco published on CCO is very
accurate.

Chuck

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PIX Help

2000-11-09 Thread Austin

I am using a static mapping on the pix for an inside illegal address to an
outside legal address.
I want to allow the inside machine to be pinged from the outside as well as
allow http traffic to that machine.
Lets say the inside address is 10.1.1.5 and the internet legal address is
45.33.20.5
This is what I did:

static (inside, outside) 45.33.20.5 10.1.1.5
conduit permit icmp host 45.33.20.5 any
conduit permit tcp host 45.33.20.5 eq www any

I cannot ping the inside machine from the internet with this config.
Please help.

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WIC 2T module question

2000-11-09 Thread Frank Wells

Do the WIC 1T and 2T modular cards for the 2600/3600 routers have db 60 
sync/async ports just like a 2500 series router?


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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Brian

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Mask Of Zorro wrote:
 
 OK - that's one issue... BUT there is still the original question which had 
 to do with connecting two routers to the MAU and doing some bridging between 
 them. In the previous scenario, we "virtualized" the network by using 
 addressing at layer 3. This split one layer 2 network into two layer 3 
 networks. The router was used to connect the "virtual" networks together.

nod, what I had asked was about "multiple rings", like you say, in a
bridging scenerio, which doesn't sound possible on one MAU.  I think some
people on this list got confused because they are confusing network
segments (layer 3) with a ring which is layer 2.

Brian

 
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 From: NP-BASS LEON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: token ring question
 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:42:38 -0500
 
 HOW
 I would really like to know this one.
 If I heard it correct Brian mentioned that he had a dumb MAU, so that MAU
 looks at that entire box as being one network segment, so how do you place
 two router interfaces with two different IP or IPX addresses on the same
 segment??? IP will detect the conflict and IPX will beacon.
 
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 yes you can, as far as having two IP or IPX ranges running on a single mau.
 You can't mix ring speeds however.
 
 daveh
 
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 Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
 2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
 need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?
 
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ISDN Backup

2000-11-09 Thread Chris Sees

Hi,
I'm having some issues with ISDN backup failover and hopefully someone has
done this before.

-Central site with a dedicated T1 through serial int. to Remote site router
-Central site also has a ISDN to Remote site to a second router
The Central serial has the BRI as a backup. Also, we are NOT using RIP
(although this is not out of the question) When we pull the T1 the ISDN
comes up and everything seems fine. But when the T1 is put back, there are
very weird things happening. I'm pretty sure its routing, so I've include
the route commands of each router. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Chris


Central Router
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.10  ---This route goes to the internet
ip route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 123.123.123.1 -- This goes to the Remote
site through the T1
router
ip route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 Dialer1 50 -- This goes to Remote site
through ISDN router

Remote Site T1 Router
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 123.123.123.2  - Goes to Central T1
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.2 50 - Goes to Central through Remote
ISDN
(192.168.1.2 is LAN side of 
ISDN router)

Remote site ISDN Router
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1  - 2.1 is ethernet side of Central
router (ipunnumbered over
ISDN)


Hope this is clear enough.


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Re: Help for study purpose

2000-11-09 Thread Brian

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, michael owuor wrote:

 Dr,
 My first suggestion would be to upgrade the code on your router so that 
 you're running a newer code than 11.0. You'll find that ppp debugs are a lot 
 easier to read in 11.3 and higher, and that you have a lot more 
 functionality available to you.

And if you're limited to 8MB of flash and want to do Enterprise, look at
11.2(24)P which fits the bill and is an Early Deployment (feature
rich) release with relativley few caveats.

Brian
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Re: OSPF Area virtual links

2000-11-09 Thread Brian

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:

 When creating a virtual link between an ABR non-directly connected are to an
 ABR in the backbone should you always use the loopback address for the
 virtual link.  Doyle does this on page 943 of his Routing TCP/IP book.

loopbacks are always good to use for terminating things like that.

 Secondly is there a route to the loopback of these two routers.  Maybe I'm
 forgetting something but how do the two routers find routes to each other if
 you're not advertising L0 and there is no static routes to the L0.

you would of course need to advertise the l0 via a routing protocol, or
like you say, make static routes.

Brian


 
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RE: OSPF Area virtual links

2000-11-09 Thread Chuck Larrieu

The connection is actually from OSPF router ID ( RID ) to router i.d.

In the case of Doyle, his example is so nicely numbered that the RIDs and
the loopback addresses are the same. ;-

I am guessing that this is one of the gotcha's that evil lab proctors might
throw into the break-fix, or maybe one of the gotcha's that may cause the
loss of points in the early phases of the lab.

In the CCIE Lab prep advice I have been circulating
 www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt ) two different CCIE's mention the value of
preparing a solid IP addressing scheme prior to beginning lab configuration.
One of them warns about issues like changing RID's when routers are reloaded
during the lab ( and in real life too :- )

Chuck

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Subject:OSPF Area virtual links

When creating a virtual link between an ABR non-directly connected are to an
ABR in the backbone should you always use the loopback address for the
virtual link.  Doyle does this on page 943 of his Routing TCP/IP book.
Secondly is there a route to the loopback of these two routers.  Maybe I'm
forgetting something but how do the two routers find routes to each other if
you're not advertising L0 and there is no static routes to the L0.

Thanks,

Keith


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RE: OSPF Area virtual links

2000-11-09 Thread Stull, Cory

Keith,  

Generally the router being used to connect you to area 0 will be on the same
subnet.  Therefore no routing issues.  As far as loopback you have to use
the router ID as the IP address of the router so if you are using a loopback
address to be the router ID that would explain it.

Cory

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSPF Area virtual links


When creating a virtual link between an ABR non-directly connected are to an
ABR in the backbone should you always use the loopback address for the
virtual link.  Doyle does this on page 943 of his Routing TCP/IP book.
Secondly is there a route to the loopback of these two routers.  Maybe I'm
forgetting something but how do the two routers find routes to each other if
you're not advertising L0 and there is no static routes to the L0.

Thanks,

Keith


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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Mask Of Zorro

IPX doesn't beacon... Beaconing is a Token RIng function that happens at 
layer 2. IPX happens at layer 3.

This is a simple case of OSI confusion (as opposed to OSI envy, which we 
won't get into...).

Token Ring is Layer 2. IP and IPX are layer 3. The Token Ring MAU is part of 
that Layer 2 ring. At layer 2, with one MAU you have only one ring.

BUT - at layer 3, you can run multiple network segments on that same ring. 
They won't be able to see each other unless you have a router that has an 
interface configured on each one.

For example, take an 8-port 8228 MAU and connect 4 PC's to it. Configure 
each PC with TCP/IP. Configure 2 of them to use IP addresses 10.10.10.1/24 
and 10.10.10.2/24 respectively (and respectfully...). Configure the other 2 
PC's to use IP addresses 192.168.16.1/24 and 192.168.16.2/24. MAKE SURE ALL 
4 PC's are configured for the same speed (4 or 16). Guess what happens - the 
192.168.16.x stations can ping each other, but can't ping the 10.10.10.x's. 
Likewise, the 10.10.10.x's can ping each other, but not the 192.168.16.x's.

NOW - connect a router with 2 TR interfaces to the MAU. Assign one interface 
to 10.10.10.3/24 and one to 192.168.16.3/24 - again make sure they are both 
set to the same speed as the PC's. Look at the router's routing table - both 
networks appear as they are both directly connected. You'll note that the 
10.10.10.x's can now ping the 192.168.16.x's and vice versa.

OK - that's one issue... BUT there is still the original question which had 
to do with connecting two routers to the MAU and doing some bridging between 
them. In the previous scenario, we "virtualized" the network by using 
addressing at layer 3. This split one layer 2 network into two layer 3 
networks. The router was used to connect the "virtual" networks together.

In a bridging scenario, we want to connect networks together at layer 2 to 
"simulate" one larger layer 2 network. Do we have two layer 2 networks? No. 
Can we use routers to "virtualize" the layer two network, split it in two, 
then use bridging on the routers to connect it back again? Hmmm...

I've held you hand this far - now y'all walk a bit on your own...

Z




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To: "'Hennen, David'" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"'Brian'"  
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Subject: RE: token ring question
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:42:38 -0500

HOW
I would really like to know this one.
If I heard it correct Brian mentioned that he had a dumb MAU, so that MAU
looks at that entire box as being one network segment, so how do you place
two router interfaces with two different IP or IPX addresses on the same
segment??? IP will detect the conflict and IPX will beacon.

-Original Message-
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To: 'Brian'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yes you can, as far as having two IP or IPX ranges running on a single mau.
You can't mix ring speeds however.

daveh

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: token ring question




Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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RE: PIX Help

2000-11-09 Thread Plambeck, Todd

Make sure the translation is in the xlate table ( sh xlate ). If not ping
out from the inside host then check it again.

Todd

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I am using a static mapping on the pix for an inside illegal address to an
outside legal address.
I want to allow the inside machine to be pinged from the outside as well as
allow http traffic to that machine.
Lets say the inside address is 10.1.1.5 and the internet legal address is
45.33.20.5
This is what I did:

static (inside, outside) 45.33.20.5 10.1.1.5
conduit permit icmp host 45.33.20.5 any
conduit permit tcp host 45.33.20.5 eq www any

I cannot ping the inside machine from the internet with this config.
Please help.

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Re: WIC 2T module question

2000-11-09 Thread Brian

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Frank Wells wrote:

 Do the WIC 1T and 2T modular cards for the 2600/3600 routers have db 60 
 sync/async ports just like a 2500 series router?

yes

 
 
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Hey ... its the Thursday follies of ...'How quick can I purge that groupstudy message listing'

2000-11-09 Thread Kirby Wong, CNE CCNA CCNP

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Re: CID or Core Tests?

2000-11-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

CID isn't much like DCN. CID expects advanced technology expertise, 
especially in legacy protocols. CID does not have any case studies and only 
a few "methodology" questions. It mostly has strangely-worded questions 
about Cisco solutions to problems network engineers face when growing and 
enhancing enterprise networks.

Bottom line: I think it would be hard to pass CID if you don't have the 
knowledge to pass the other core CCDP tests. Also, if you wait on CID, 
maybe you'll be able to take a test that isn't ancient. I haven't heard 
that Cisco is updating CID, but I would think that they must be.

Priscilla


At 10:04 PM 11/8/00, Mike McDaniel wrote:
I have been a fly on the wall for some time. I have been able to find the
answers to most of my questions from the archives or current threads, but
this one has me stumped.

I have had my CCNA for about a year and just recently passed the DCN test.
keeping in mind I wish to complete CCNP/DP certifications, my questions is
as follows.

Should I sit the CID test and get that out of the way while the DCN info is
fresh, or should I take the core tests to prepare for the CID?
I'm leaning towards CID, but would like feedback from those who have been
there.

TIA,
Mike



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Re: BSCN book

2000-11-09 Thread Brian W.

I am a little behind in reading, but like www.mysimin.com to find stuff
cheap.

Brian

On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Jeff Duchin wrote:

 Do you guys know where I can get this for lower than the retail price? If I
 go through my work I get a discount but it takes too damn long... I'm taking
 a trip next week and want it sooner. Any suggestions?
 
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Re: Colt test

2000-11-09 Thread Peter_McCracken



If you pass the Colt test you should pass the real thing no problem,
the boson tests are not as difficult but cover more of the area that
the exams are actually based on.

rgs peter.


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RE: Need Advise - Cisco AVVID

2000-11-09 Thread Medley, Tim
Title: In need of Sr. Networking Engineer



Mohan,

What 
specifically are you looking for as far as info/help/etc?

I have 
quite a bit of experience with the AVVID products. I am involved in a large 
centralized, multi-tenant Cisco Call Manager 3.0 project using a myriad of 
gateways, conference bridges, etc.

We 
primarily use the Cisco 7960 IP Phones but have also used the older Cisco VIP30 
and 12SP phones.

I'd be 
glad to assist with whatever info I can provide. I'd have to agree that Cisco's 
docs on the AVVID products are a bit thin.

tim


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AVVID

  Dear all, 
  has anyone successfully implemented Cisco AVVID, appreciate if you could share 
  your experience and share some of the problem you encountered... need some 
  info. on the following, cisco web-site has lots of Cisco AVVID marketing 
  doc. but not so much of configuration and tips. 
  
  Any doc. on 
  configuring IVR function on Cisco voice digital gateway (3640) and Cisco 
  dial-out utility... 
  
  many 
  thanks,
  
  mohan


RE: WIC 2T module question

2000-11-09 Thread Hennen, David

the WIC-2T has two little tiny ports called smart serial ports.  The WIC-1T
has a regular db60 like on a 2500, I don't think they could fit two of those
on a WIC

daveh

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Subject: WIC 2T module question


Do the WIC 1T and 2T modular cards for the 2600/3600 routers have db 60 
sync/async ports just like a 2500 series router?


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Re: ISDN and VOICE cables for back to back connectivity

2000-11-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

In the US we can test FXS voice ports easily. At just about any supermarket 
we can buy analog phones for less than $20 US. That's all it takes. I would 
guess that you can get analog phones for pretty cheap there too?

I don't think you can easily simulate ISDN, though, but check the archives 
for an answer. ISDN simulators were discussed just recently.

Good luck.

Priscilla

At 04:19 AM 11/9/00, Ravi Kumar wrote:
hi friends

I am Ravi Kumar from Hyderabad, INDIA.

I have 2* 2610 routers with 2 port sync/async card, 1 port ISDN BRI card and 2
port FXS card installed in VM.

I am using these routers exclusively for my CCNP 2.0 training and
preparation.

I have DTE and DCE cables for two routers back to back connectivity to
simulate leased lines.
are there any cables with which I can simulate ISDN connectivity as well as
VoIP connectivity??

your help is highly apreciated in advance.

with regards
ravi kumar B.



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Re: ISDN Backup

2000-11-09 Thread michael owuor

Chris,
What are the specific problems you are seeing the T1 comes back up? The only 
routing issues I would look for would be to make sure you have recursive 
routing configured wherever you have IP unnumbered configured. Either that, 
or I would get rid of ip unnumbered alltogether since this is a private 
network, and there is no risk of running out of IP address space.

Does the ISDN router have a recursive host route to the 2.1 address which 
says it is reachable through the BRI/dialer?

I think the easiest/cleanest way to do his would be to run the routing 
protocol, and have the Remote ISDN router do the dialing when needed.  Have 
the Central router advertise a default route to the Remote T1 router, which 
would also have the floating default route pointing to the ISDN Router. When 
the T1 connection is lost, the floating static route is installed, and 
traffic is directed to the ISDN router which only needs a static default 
route going out its BRI.

Since the remote routers share a LAN segment, you could also look into 
implementing HSRP where the Remote T1 router is confiured as the active 
router, and therefore receives all traffic from the LAN users who need to 
get to the Central site. If that router fails, or if the T1 interface goes 
down, the ISDN router now becomes the active router and receives the traffic 
from the LAN users and sends it out the ISDN interface.

A combination of floating static routes with a dynamic rouing protocol and 
HSRP is a good design to go with, since you achive redundancy on layer 1, 2 
and 3. Floating statics with a routing protocol ensure the Remote T1 router 
is notified when, for example, the T1 interface on the central site goes 
down. In such a case, the T1 interface on the Remote could stay up and 
floating statics alone would not notify the Remote T1 router of the loss of 
connection. The dynamic routing protocol will. HSRP allows the ISDN router 
to be notified when the T1 interface or the ethernet interface on the Remote 
T1 router goes down, or when the entire router fails.

michael a.o


From: "Chris Sees" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Chris Sees" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISDN Backup
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:21:21 -0500

Hi,
I'm having some issues with ISDN backup failover and hopefully someone has
done this before.

-Central site with a dedicated T1 through serial int. to Remote site router
-Central site also has a ISDN to Remote site to a second router
The Central serial has the BRI as a backup. Also, we are NOT using RIP
(although this is not out of the question) When we pull the T1 the ISDN
comes up and everything seems fine. But when the T1 is put back, there are
very weird things happening. I'm pretty sure its routing, so I've include
the route commands of each router. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions would 
be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Chris


Central Router
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.10  ---This route goes to the internet
ip route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 123.123.123.1 -- This goes to the Remote
site through the T1
 router
ip route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 Dialer1 50 -- This goes to Remote site
through ISDN router

Remote Site T1 Router
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 123.123.123.2  - Goes to Central T1
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.2 50 - Goes to Central through Remote
ISDN
   (192.168.1.2 is LAN side of 
ISDN router)

Remote site ISDN Router
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1  - 2.1 is ethernet side of Central
router (ipunnumbered over
 ISDN)


Hope this is clear enough.


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Colt test for BCMSN

2000-11-09 Thread Desai, Inamul

Has any one tried Colt BCMSNe exam on cisco site?
Is it harder than real test? How is it compare to
Boson or real exam ?
Is boson exams any good for BCMSN ?

Thanks everyone in advance.

Inamul

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Re: PIX Help

2000-11-09 Thread Austin

Not working .. it is translated ...

""Plambeck, Todd"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
616662531243D411887000805F65999503C341@HTSCORPPDC">news:616662531243D411887000805F65999503C341@HTSCORPPDC...
 Make sure the translation is in the xlate table ( sh xlate ). If not ping
 out from the inside host then check it again.

 Todd

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 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:50 PM
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 I am using a static mapping on the pix for an inside illegal address to an
 outside legal address.
 I want to allow the inside machine to be pinged from the outside as well
as
 allow http traffic to that machine.
 Lets say the inside address is 10.1.1.5 and the internet legal address is
 45.33.20.5
 This is what I did:

 static (inside, outside) 45.33.20.5 10.1.1.5
 conduit permit icmp host 45.33.20.5 any
 conduit permit tcp host 45.33.20.5 eq www any

 I cannot ping the inside machine from the internet with this config.
 Please help.

 Thanks.


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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread NP-BASS LEON

The initial question did not mention secondary addresses. They simply stated
that they wanted to place TWO seperate routers, with TWO different IP
subnets. David,
If you could explain how you configured that please let me in on it
Thanks in advance.

P.S Always looking for new GURU tricks of the trade.

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Subject: RE: token ring question


I have seen two ip ranges running on a single IBM 8228 mau (you can't get
much dumber than that), and I have seen two IP ranges running on a single
dumb ethernet hub.  The secondary address command allows you to do that with
one interface.  As far as IPX, I'm not as familiar with that but I don't see
why it would be different.

What you will see if you do a debug is lots of messages about things arping
on the wrong subnet, but things will work.

The original post said multiple rings, which is maybe where I'm going wrong
with regard to bridging.  But if you have two router interfaces with
different network addresses and put them into different bridge groups why
would that be a problem.

daveh

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:43 PM
To: 'Hennen, David'; 'Brian'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: token ring question


HOW
I would really like to know this one.
If I heard it correct Brian mentioned that he had a dumb MAU, so that MAU
looks at that entire box as being one network segment, so how do you place
two router interfaces with two different IP or IPX addresses on the same
segment??? IP will detect the conflict and IPX will beacon.

-Original Message-
From: Hennen, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:03 PM
To: 'Brian'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: token ring question


yes you can, as far as having two IP or IPX ranges running on a single mau.
You can't mix ring speeds however.

daveh

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: token ring question




Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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Re: WIC 2T module question

2000-11-09 Thread Brian

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Bill Sucevic wrote:

 Actually, the WIC-1T has a DB60, and the WIC-2T has an SS (Super Serial)
 connector.

thats right.I was thinking of an nm2w with 2 wic1t's

 
 At 01:55 PM 11/9/00 -0600, Brian wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Frank Wells wrote:
 
  Do the WIC 1T and 2T modular cards for the 2600/3600 routers have db 60 
  sync/async ports just like a 2500 series router?
 
 yes
 
  
  
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RE: CID or Core Tests?

2000-11-09 Thread Coker, Michael

Actually the CID 4.0 course is about to debut in web based/e-learning
format.  The courseware should come out fairly soon after that.
I was actually communicating with the Product Manager for the CID course and
was going to sit in the beta class, but it was cancelled as their focus had
changed to the web format.  I'd suppose that the CID 4.0 exam would be
developed a few months after the course is developed.

--Mike

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To: Mike McDaniel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/9/00 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: CID or Core Tests?

CID isn't much like DCN. CID expects advanced technology expertise, 
especially in legacy protocols. CID does not have any case studies and
only 
a few "methodology" questions. It mostly has strangely-worded questions 
about Cisco solutions to problems network engineers face when growing
and 
enhancing enterprise networks.

Bottom line: I think it would be hard to pass CID if you don't have the 
knowledge to pass the other core CCDP tests. Also, if you wait on CID, 
maybe you'll be able to take a test that isn't ancient. I haven't heard 
that Cisco is updating CID, but I would think that they must be.

Priscilla


At 10:04 PM 11/8/00, Mike McDaniel wrote:
I have been a fly on the wall for some time. I have been able to find
the
answers to most of my questions from the archives or current threads,
but
this one has me stumped.

I have had my CCNA for about a year and just recently passed the DCN
test.
keeping in mind I wish to complete CCNP/DP certifications, my questions
is
as follows.

Should I sit the CID test and get that out of the way while the DCN
info is
fresh, or should I take the core tests to prepare for the CID?
I'm leaning towards CID, but would like feedback from those who have
been
there.

TIA,
Mike



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RE: token ring question

2000-11-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:42 PM 11/9/00, NP-BASS LEON wrote:
HOW
I would really like to know this one.
If I heard it correct Brian mentioned that he had a dumb MAU, so that MAU
looks at that entire box as being one network segment, so how do you place
two router interfaces with two different IP or IPX addresses on the same
segment??? IP will detect the conflict and IPX will beacon.

IPX can't beacon!!! ;-) I don't know how we managed to move up to the 
network layer anyway. The question was "Can you configure multiple rings on 
a single MAU?"

The answer is no. A MAU is a physical-layer relay. It's like an Ethernet 
hub. Two rings requires at least a bridge or switch.

To be honest, I don't know what would actually happen if you plugged two 
2500s into the same MAU and assigned two different ring numbers. I can't 
think of anything in the Token Ring protocols that addresses this problem. 
But I do know that it would be illogical, illegal, and downright ugly, kind 
of like what's going on in Florida. ;-)

Priscilla


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To: 'Brian'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: token ring question


yes you can, as far as having two IP or IPX ranges running on a single mau.
You can't mix ring speeds however.

daveh

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: token ring question




Can you configure multiple rings on a single MAU?  I mean If I plug 2
2502's into a MAU can I set different rings for them, or do you really
need two MAU's to do multi-ring/bridging scenerios?

Brian



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